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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only bullion shop
https://monerometals.com/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
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>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
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>Hectate Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Smackers
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>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>Whales Market #
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/ivG7HN52


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>>57842294
>If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable
What are you, retarded?

Reporting in
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>>57842148
I miss this Boomer like you wouldn't believe.

Monero has the best memes out of any coin on this board

>>57842899
a shame it has the worst community

>>57842917
(You)

Monero will win.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1709607318654149.webm

Monero memes are kino, allow me to download all of these new ones on this thread.
Thanks monero bros.

>>57842899
>Monero has the best memes out of any coin on this board
It really does.

reminder for spamming shitheads

an antique isn't a currency

I used funny doge coin gains to buy a drug. How many drug did you buy from your bullrun gains?

>>57842937
tripfag triggered huh

>>57843110
(You)

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1709592430151076.webm

>>57842148
booba

pastelink
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pastelink
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Monero is an unfunny failed clown in this clown market

What's going on around here?

why should i trust monero as a store of value if nobody can audit the circulating supply and there is no proof that the chain hasnt been compromised? why cant the retard devs understand that and literally just rewrite the protocol to keep everything private but have a regular count of all circulating coins in existence based on the history of sends in the blockchain so people know theres not more coins than where created to begin wtih?


is it because there is no regular dev team and its just random tranny volunteers who code some shit one weekend then abandon to go get their breast implants and nobdy ever sticks to the project for longer than a month?

>>57843368

>>57845081
>store of value
medium of exchange
>why cant the retard devs understand that and literally just rewrite the protocol to keep everything private but have a regular count of all circulating coins in existence
That was how it originally worked and then they figured out they don't need to make the transaction output amounts public. Start with the RingCT paper.

I want to thank the anons who have donated so far. I have made a twitter post about it, but i'm going to save up the donos in order to buy a real anvil. The setup i have right now just isn't working. This is the anvil i'm planning on getting:
https://www.amazon.com/VEVOR-Cast-Iron-Anvil-110/dp/B0B9XPJHF3/ref=m_crc_dp_lf_d_t1_d_sccl_2_1/141-9369071-2415440?pd_rd_i=B0B9XPJHF3&psc=1

got cucked by binance fuck should I do?

>>57843178
>>57843674
Beautiful.

>>57845081
>if nobody can audit the circulating supply
moneroinflation.com
>why cant the retard devs understand that and literally just rewrite the protocol to keep everything private but have a regular count of all circulating coins in existence
Block rewards are in transparent amount. So, we know how many moneros are emitted at each block, all the way to the genesis block.
>is it because there is no regular dev team and its just random tranny volunteers
that's ztrash, not XMR.

>>57846377
>>store of value
>medium of exchange
Both. I have a long term stash that I never spend and save my money in. And I also have a hot wallet in which I pay my VPS.


EYES ON THE PRIZE

> SERAPHIS
> JAMTIS
> FULL MEMBERSHIP PROOFS

MONERO IS THE FINAL SOLUTION TO THE TAXMAN QUESTION.

For the Captain!

Download all the episodes (01-19) of Captain Blackbeard Radio on I2P torrents:

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I2P Torrenting FAQ:
1) Download i2pd.website
2) Download Qbittorrent 4.6.0 (LT20 ==> LIBTORRENT 2.0 VERSION!)
3) Setup your Qbittorrent client as is shown here: https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/issues/19794#issuecomment-1890950600
4) Sneed & feed the captain's radio Finest Sounds From The Underground!

Monero just hit an ATH in daily transaction count. Blocks are full, dynamic block size is kicking in.

>>57846804
I've already used your project as a talking point about how cool lateral economical networking is thrice now. Evocative in all the right ways.

>>57847228
>dynamic block size is kicking in.
Good. Gives us an opportunity to observe how the individual tx fees vs the miner earnings dynamics play out on the mainnet. If Monero can indeed scale on-chain using dynamic block sizes, that will be a testament to its technical-soundness over bitshit.

>>57847286
really? thank you! I do plan on making a real business out of blacksmithing and eventually silversmithing (already made a few rings for myself and some family members). Once i can get the business going, I'm going to offer custom services for blacksmith'd or silversmith'd items (political rings, knives, etc).

>>57847364
>eventually silversmithing
I love silver. Keeps the jews away. They can't touch it because of olygodynamic effect it burns their skin.

Can I give someone a Spotify playlist and receive back high quality ogg or mp3 downloads from them with proper filenames? Either for free or by paying in XMR. It's >4000 songs.

>>57848214
try this service on moneromarket: https://moneromarket.io/listing/3a6a90e4-72fd-49b0-866a-9bdc4702b4b8

>>57848214
I recently wrote a script just for that. Drop a cock.li mail or something because it'll likely take a few off topic posts to get you on track.

>>57848278
>cock.li
I recently realized https://delta.chat/en/ works well with cock.li:

1) it turns cock.li email service into an end-to-end encrypted messaging service, while still using its email infrastructure
2) it can connect to cock.li's onion URLs for IMAP & SMTP, via Orbot on android or via regular tor daemon on Whonix
3) Can still send emails using delta.chat's desktop/mobile apps to others

Highly recommended for checking it out.

>>57848370
That is incredibly useful, thanks, I will keep it in the repertoire.
Something functionally similar, foregoing the email, that I have used in the past is https://onionshare.org/, which despite the name comes with an easily hosted chat room, no identity attached at all.

Peripherally related, is there any email provider that asks for as little data as cock.li without being blacklisted by everyone and their mother? Now that proton requires you to sign up providing an external email address (which is so retarded I still have not recovered) I'm cut off.

>>57848449
>is there any email provider that asks for as little data as cock.li without being blacklisted by everyone and their mother?
Are alternative domains of cock.li also got blacklisted? For example, airmail.cc or firemail.cc?

Other than that, you can check out riseup.net and disroot.org email providers.

>>57848500
Problem occurred with airmail, didn't try others as I assumed someone willing to blacklist one (proton, for example) is willing to blacklist all of them.
Sparked by this exchange I tried tuta and sign-up worked without any problem or identifying verification.

>>57848247
I will check it out. Hopefully it's someone who can run a script to download from Spotify and won't have to download them all by finding torrents cause I cannot afford paying someone for that.

>>57848278
anon9224@waifu.club My main concern is I don't want to risk my Spotify account, nor do I want to give my credentials to someone else. Ideally I'll make the playlist public, and someone will grab the songs for me.

>>57848500
https://ghostbox.cc is a one-time-payment, but maybe that means it's not blocked? Can anyone who uses it confirm?

>>57848500
Best thing is to just run your own mail server. Buy a cheap domain for a few bux, same with a cheap VPS and follow this howto: https://poolp.org/posts/2019-09-14/setting-up-a-mail-server-with-opensmtpd-dovecot-and-rspamd/

>>57837191
You and me both, anon.

>>57843674
Comfy 3d-printed gun and comfy CPU-printed money.

btcbros why do you put yourself through so much pain and misery?...

>>57845081
>keep everything private but have a regular count of all circulating coins in existence
That's what already happens, but it doesn't save you from an inflation bug. Even BTC had inflations bugs, it's possible on a transparent surveillance chain. And XMR had an inflation/octo-spend bug that was detectable and provably not exploited. It's not so simple as "just add up the numbers".
Private chain doesn't mean that all inflation is undetectable. And inflation on a transparent chain can do massive damage as well.

>>57848978
Redpill me on the Creality Ender 3.

I'm Satoshi

>>57850166
Got something for you.

>>57850166
wagmi

>>57850186
Oha nice, hope I'll get my salary this week to buy 10 or 20 of them, thats a really good price. Thank you a lot!

>>57850269
Oh, you're a wagie. I thought you were a homeless bum because no bank account. Anyway, glad I could help.

>>57848978
>>57849906
/3dpg/ and /xmr/ are the only two generals I always keep tabs on.
Ender 3v3 is good apparently

>>57850327
Part time dishwasher, currently getting introduced to work in the kitchen 2 times a week, get my salary in cash and a small room at my working place and food

>>57850384
If you're not above taking gibs, the amt can also pay your rent directly so you don't need a bank account yourself. Just FYI.

>>57850417
I'm not registered at the apartment, wasn't officially registered at any place I was living in the past 5 years or so.

>>57850519
I do respect your life choices, ghostmaxxing is based.
Just giving you options.

>>57847228
>Monero just hit an ATH in daily transaction count
but why, what happened?

>>57850186
>Got something for you.
Thats fucking great, it comes without pfand too!

>>57850552
Was at the Amt once but never filled out the papers, I'm still trying to find a way building a comfy live completely independent. Maybe something with solar mining, selling beer and weed for monero, weed is getting legalized next month so I can grow 3 plants, growing own food in an offshore schrebergarten, stuff like that.

>>57850552
IRS-chan isn't feeling too well

>>57850643
I wish you luck. I recommend flipping PMs on moneromarket. Get some cheap 10DMs for 10€ each and sell for 13-14€. There's lots of demand. Gold too, but requires a bit more capital.

>>57850721
PMs is precious metals?

>>57850802
Yes. They sell like crazy for me. Sold $1000 last month alone. I like german coins because of the low premiums. Also sold a gold chicken. It's easy money.

>>57850598
Whales starting to cash out of other currencies. Monero is the fat lady of the shitcoin opera.

>>57850951
Nice, will do some research about it but won't list it on moneromarkets out of respect for you bizness. But it's good to know if I'm ever in need of some quick cash. Thanks for the hint.

>>57850951
You buy them with cash from a real shop and then ship them to buyers online? What's a 10DM? Deutsche Mark?

>>57850643
Best of luck anon.

Monero not only broke the previous record for highest daily tx count, it shattered it. 80k transactions in a day (compared to the previous 64k record).

Several thousand transactions are sitting in the mempool even with the dynamic block expansion.

https://tx.town/v/xmr-btc

>>57851427
Yes, except I order them online. Moving around to the next coin shop is more expensive than just shipping.
>What's a 10DM? Deutsche Mark?
Yes, but there's two of them. One is older with 625 silver and the newer from 98 on is 925. The latter is obviously better because of the higher purity. I do kind of like the 5DM (625...) though, because it's just 7g of pure silver and has approximately 0% (sometimes lower, that is, cheaper than spot) which is nice.

>>57851539
*sometimes lower premiums

rate this cool new meme

>>57851650
Wow, looks like shit in a thumbnail.

>>57851427
Thanks

>>57851650
scary
mods!

>>57848978
>Comfy 3d-printed gun and comfy CPU-printed money.

We the freedom printers

>>57851975
just wait I'm gonna do a retake and make it super bloody and way funnier

>>57851650
>how to summon a ...

Looks like tx spam hitting the network

>>57850598
People are sending their Monero to exchanges to sell them for Bitcoin. Monero is going to $20.

>>57852629
Says who?

>>57852775
So where did you short XMR?

>>57852625
block reward

>>57853622
>Says who?

Its our resident demoralization troll, pay no mind.

>>57853622
>>57853821
You think 90k transactions in a 24 hour period is organic? Are you retarded? Lol.

monero does what bitcoin't

>>57853929
>You think 90k transactions in a 24 hour period is organic? Are you retarded? Lol.

Last time a spike like this happened everybody assumed spam, turned out it was just minexmr paying out.

>>57842148
feels good seeing how well xmr bounced back, as expected. i don't hold any myself though just appreciate the one true privacy coin. also it got me drugs a couple times

>>57854030

And its worth noting that spamming XMR transactions as a deanonimization strategy is unlikely to be worth the effort since you'd need to control at least 73% of ALL outputs to deanon just 1% of TXs. And that's only if you're not being counter-spammed by the community or another attacker.

In any case, all of this is moot once full-chain membership proofs replace ring signatures.

>>57843015
If Monero becomes the world currency we'd still have inflationary capitalism which sucks. We need deflationary capitalism to save the world.

>>57855373
>inflationary capitalism which sucks.
Monero's inflation rate is lower than that of fucking gold. If gold's inflationary mechanics fueled the belle epoch, then, we will be fine with XMR's.

>>57855430
>>57855373
No, Monero won't be inflationary forever. Lost coins will eventually counterbalance the coinbase.

>>57850166
wtf I thought I was Satoshi

NAKADASHI

>>57855594
Cash out your milion btc right now, I want to watch the fallout
Bonus points for moving to the dumbest coin available as publicly as possible

>>57855670
>Bonus points for moving to the dumbest coin available as publicly as possible
What if he cashes out and then moves back to BTC again? How would the markets interpret that?

>>57855708
Some people who moved quickly and sold during the inevitable price dump will likely cry. I am too psychologically dissimilar to judge any reactions beyond that

>>57842148
buy mordinals

Question, how do we know for sure that the xmr supply is distributed without any huge whales akin to doge?
Also I buyed too much and lost money in the crash meanwhile everything is up a millionX

>>57857210

Most of the whales would have sold their XMR bags off during the first few years.

Tether sez "thanks for playing, suckers!"

Is it worth buying after all the fees if you only have $25 leftover after getting paid? Is crypto only good for rich people?

>>57857210
You don't. Have a stoploss. Stick to it.

>>57852775
>Monero is going to $20.
Based. Then I can get cheapies!

>>57858919
>Is it worth buying after all the fees if you only have $25 leftover after getting paid?
could be worse

>>57860344

>just use LN, bro!
>opening/closing channels requires on-chain TX

>>57860398
>>just use LN, bro!
>>opening/closing channels requires on-chain TX
https://twitter.com/Yashraj__/status/1764856670763499525

cant buy spot on binance, only futures, wwyd? sorry im new desu

>>57855373
>We need deflationary capitalism to save the world
do you even understand any of the terms you are using?

>>57861015
>Hasn't read "A History of Central Banking and the Enslavmeent of Mankind"
NGMI homo.

>>57857157
the seed to the wallet that holds these and some others is up for sale

>>57861303
Very cute.

>>57861388
And USA-chan.

>>57861462
What does "datacenter" mean?

>>57861499
it's where the servers are physically located

>>57861515
On a centralized server?

>>57861362
What are those? NFTs on Monero? Oh no...

>>57861640
there are multiple physical high spec servers that host user vms
datacenters are where the physical servers are hosted

>>57861645
Mordinals were a proof of concept because someone thought tx_extra being unlimited is retarded. After these became a thing, tx_extra was quickly limited in size so these are quite the rarity ;)

The wallet also holds a bunch of the monero punks but nobody cares about those.

>>57861664
Sounds gay as fuck desu

>>57851538
If this is some sort of attack, it'sa good test.

>>57854318
>once full-chain membership proofs replace
when tho

>>57862704
>membership proofs
What is this shit?

>>57861303
Based I used kyun for a long time although it looks like my original server type doesn't exist anymore

>>57862743
yeah its all custom specs now

>>57862743
>kyun
Kyung us fake, everything is fake it's all fake and gay

>>57862917
Fuckers in Matrix telling me, always in the 4chan
"Kyun ain't bout this, Naphtha ain't bout that"
He, he they say "That nigga don't be putting in no work"
SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Y'all niggas ain't know shit
All ya motherfuckers talk about "Naphtha ain't no hitta, Kyun ain't this, Naphtha a fake"
SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Y'all don't live with that nigga
Nigga been out of stock since fuckin, I don't know when!
Motherfuckers stop fuckin' playin' him like that
Them niggas savages out there
If I catch another motherfucker talking sweet about Kyun I'm fucking beating they ass!
I'm not fucking playing no more

It's all fake and gay

so /xmrg/, what goods and services will you provide that accepts XMR? The only real way the value goes up is if you can buy stuff with it.

I'm Satoshi

>>57862704
>when tho

Most of the code is done. Now it needs to be thoroughly audited and an appropriate elliptic curve integrated into the codebase.

So potentially as soon as the next major upgrade to Seraphis.

>>57862737
>>membership proofs
>What is this shit?

Currently, the specific TXO being spent must be specifically referenced in the constructed TX, hence the need for decoys.

But by using ZKPs we can prove the specific TXO being spent is part of an existing set of TXOs without needing to specifically reference it.

This set of TXOs happens to comprise literally every TXO on the blockchain, nearly 100 million at last count.

TL;DR: think of it as Monero going from a ringsize of 16 to 100 million+.

Tx spam now at 98k in the past 24 hours.

It is correct calling Monero a shitcoin?

>>57863512
whatever makes you feel good

>>57863512
>It is correct calling Monero a shitcoin?

Sure, just think of the hilarious implications.

>>57842249
you should update that kycnot.me link to https://kycnot.me/?t=service&q=&xmr=on

>>57864188

Done!

Why does it keep crabbing

>>57864408
It's the world's most private algorithmic stablecoin.

>>57864408
moonfag

guys when're we getting rich?

>>57864685
you'll have only meme moonfag answer, the actual answer is swipe it for doge or some other garbage if you want to make any penny during the run

Real question, is the actual market for XMR as a currency growing? (DN and outside)

>>57864947
Have seen more steroids sources accepting XMR over BTC in the past few months literally

So efficiency means maximizing centralization which is what the fiat world is about, bitcoin trilema trades scaling to decentralization and security, so first i want to ask why do we want CryptoCurrencys to be decentralized what is the value that we are maximizing for

>>57861362
How much?

>>57864947
Simply "yes".

>>57866565
>what is the value that we are maximizing for
Freedom.

>>57860709
Use kraken if you want a cex. Use localmonero if you are based.

>>57868517
>Use localmonero
Only if you're from a country that supports US foreign policy.
Localmonero is cringe desu.
ultimately a final p2p solution is needed.

>>57868665
I sold xmr for cash by mail (euro) before. It works. No fuss.

>>57868665
>ultimately a final p2p solution is needed.
https://haveno.exchange

Good morning, I hate moonfags.

>>57869570
I'm stacking piconeros as we speak
not to use it
just to sell on the pump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJLE2pnN9WY

>>57868665
localmonero just werks

>>57868517
>Use kraken if you want a cex.
cex with monero chan

I'm Satoshi

incognito is rugging, do not deposit

Just a reminder that this is the market Bitfags expect you to take seriously.

>>57872156
if you’re gonna larp, larp as fluffy

The fuck is happening with transaction count? Have Monero been accepted as the worlds #1 crypto?

>>57872674
Retarded lambofags. It's just a casino at this point. Nothing more.

guys it's me, your fren SBF
I need to swap some coins for monero

>>57875107
give me the jewgold, Sam

Are there good any RUB/XMR exchanges?

Remember to spend your xmr, hodltards are delusional.

Fuck niggers. Fuck kikes. Short the AntiChrist.

>>57878243
seethe rat, I'll hold my xmr as long as I want

>>57874856
It is a good stress test anyway, so I do no care why.

>>57878243
>when you buy high but also sell low
never change /biz/

>>57868695
this is literally never coming out

XMR

m o n e r o

u love to see it

>>57878656

Free audits are always welcome.

>>57872615
Where to find more of this demon sir?

>>57853929
I've personally been using XMR a lot more these days. Good time to accumulate and I've accepted some for services too.

>>57868268
Based

>>57872615
Please AI generate more photorealistic monero sama pretty please

>>57882175
Why AI generate when we have real Monero Sisters?

>>57882690
That's a man

>>57845081
why should I read your posts when you come in every thread and post the same dogshit questions every time but ignore the answers?

I really just buy this shit to drain liquidity from cexs and larp

So you bought a coin based on fundamentals, yet ignored that an open blockchain has its own advantages

>>57884278
buy monero
show view key
get open chain
???
profit

>>57842148
>picrel

>>57884636
Very based.

wownegros we are POOMPING

Monerochan hitting a new ATH in daily transaction count again today.

>>57883048
Prove it 1pbti

>>57884636
Holy shit how based are these guys

>>57886104
Ghostmaxx sigma grind. Hope they are successful in evading this scam draft to die for (((Israel))).

>all Serai liquidity pools will be dual-sided
This means I need to own both coins to provide some liquidity?

>out of the top50
it's over

>waiting ~25 mins for a transaction to be mined into a block
Anons, are we under attack?

based.

>>57886452
You can provide only one asset and it will auto-sell half for the other. You are exposed to the price of both while in the pool and might suffer impermanent loss.

>>57887276
If it's an attack it's not actually optimized to do damage efficiently. It could be a pool or exchange that is sending out transactions directly instead of batching but it's unclear why they would do that.

>>57887276
Probably. Just increase your tx fee.

>>57887347
So the best practice is to provide two coins?
>>57887358
It went through, was from an exchange so I couldn't control the fees.

>>57887382
I'd recommend adding liquidity during the genesis phase. During that you only add one side (btc, eth, dai or xmr) and get the other side airdropped.

>>57887436
That's nice. So only initial validators will be hand-chosen to bootstrap, but liquidity providers can be anyone anonymous?

>>57887459
Correct. You can also set up a validator anonymously right after the genesis liquidity period ends. The stake and setup requirements could be a turnoff though. The best place for information is the serai GitHub and discord.

>>57887520
Thanks for the info anon, I'll definitely look into providing liquidity during genesis. Being a validator is out of reach for now.

Just in case you mised it:

>Serai's testnet is live and has started to produce blocks!
https://twitter.com/JEhrenhofer/status/1765501767339442438

>>57872674
this is like a fucking South Park episode.

I'm Satoshi

How is seraphis looking?
The git discussion wasn't updated in a while

>>57884636
based
you don't have to die in a (((war)))

>>57887436
>genesis phase
when is that bro?
I will unload my massive liquidity

>>57886662
The top 50 includes dog meme coins, POS tokens which barely qualify as cryptocurrencies and currencies that are accepted nowhere. Meanwhile you can spend XMR on whatever you like, white, gray and black markets: https://monerica.com/ (black markets aren't on that page).

Why can't you pay for 4chan Pass with XMR? What's the next best alternative for privacy?

>>57890668
>4chan Pass
lol
>What's the next best alternative for privacy?
buy a captcha solver

>>57890668
>Why can't you pay for 4chan Pass with XMR?
Because this platform is way too high profile to not cooperate with law enforcement. There is no legal way to get around this
>What's the next best alternative for privacy?
Altchans. Lurking without posting. Figuring out how to get a residential IP address

Note how the choice is exposing your IP (they went a long way blocking vpns) or your payment details

>>57842148
Why is my transaction not going through? I'm on the latest version of the GUI. No errors. 27 minutes, 0 confirmations. Is the network congested?

>>57890738
It's not for captcha, it's for posting from VPNs/Tor in case this website gets banned by ISPs in this country
>>57890760
>residential IP address
What do you mean?
>Altchans
Agreed, but I really was asking what's the best alternative crypto for privacy (that 4chan supports for pass payments)

>>57854318
it is 100% worth the effort because monero transactions are so cheap you can confidently own 90% of all outputs over 4+ years for less than the cost of one government contract

but that entity has already poisoned 90% of monero's ouputs. this entity, whoever they are, aren't deanonymizing, simply attacking.

I've been here all summer.

>>57890923
>posting from VPNs/Tor
the privacy larpers in these monero threads aren't smart enough to understand this.

>>57891192
But it's not even for privacy in my case

>>57890865
We've been at ATH of transaction count for the last few days. Happened out of nowhere.
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-transactions.html#3m
Looks like the blockchain is under attack and can't keep. This coin definitely going down to $0.

>>57884636
So in order to moon, all that we needed is a global mass draft dodge (conventional WW3)?

Therefore Monero is a financial hedge against conventional WW3

>>57890865
Bumped the fee slightly and everything is fast. Had the same issue.

>>57890923
>best alternative crypto for privacy
Swap from XMR into the one with lowest fees that they accept.

>>57888817
Kayaba is giving a talk about serai at Monerokon. If it isn't live by then, I would assume it to be shortly after.

Anyone using Feather as a view-only wallet? I'm trying it and the balance it displays is incorrect, it ignores all outgoing transactions.
On Anonero I just import the outputs to the offline wallet and it all syncs.

>>57892138
inputs use view keys, outputs use spend keys. a wallet incapable of spending can't detect spends without importing that data from one that can.

>>57891232
could be an attack though I wonder if transactions that used to happen off-chain on binance are now happening on chain (people using swap exchanges)
either way monero continues to work as intended

>bought the delisting dip
>price recovered
>mfw using XMR gains to pay for office space to run a Serai node and mine shit

>>57844521
>>57851538
>>57851650
I love Fumonero-chan doing Fumonero-chan things, brightens my day up.

>>57884636
good for them, desu.
Young men like them are too smart to die in an endless war.

>>57891083
>it is 100% worth the effort because monero transactions are so cheap you can confidently own 90% of all outputs over 4+ years for less than the cost of one government contract

Wow, its that easy?! I expect Chainalysis will be all over that then! Imagine the prestige and publicity that finally cracking Monero would bring!

>but that entity has already poisoned 90% of monero's ouputs. this entity, whoever they are, aren't deanonymizing, simply attacking.

Wow, its so over!

It's a fumo eats fumo world out there.

>>57893356
I will write to abuse@getmonero.org

>>57892915
>Imagine the prestige and publicity
you monero midwits really are a complete lost cause

>>57893417
Too late.

>>57893460
>you monero midwits really are a complete lost cause

Yes, we are. So stop trying to save us and go enjoy the totally organic BTC pump to $70K, $100K and beyond!

>>57892637

>>57892523
Hod you run a serai code whats the profit

>>57892523
baaed

>>57893597
It's over.

Monerochan started going totally apeshit!? What's going on?? HELP!!

There is no mobile Monero wallet that works with a Trezor, right?

>>57895038
saving this one to post during the next delisting to scare moonies even more.

>>57895769

Fuck Trezor, use AnoNero, the discerning gentleman's choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87zsE1cpbbA

Can I make my main source of income in Monero without government thinking I'm a drug dealer ?

>>57896029
as long as you cut the taxman his share nobody's gonna give much of a shit provided you don't seem sketchy in other ways.

>>57893356
memefied version

>>57895758

>>57892915
You are acting retarded anon and don't understand flooding attacks. This is actually a potentially pretty serious incident in the short term.

>>57896833
>You are acting retarded anon and don't understand flooding attacks. This is actually a potentially pretty serious incident in the short term.

Yes, just like all previous flooding attacks were "potentially pretty serious" incidents. Except they weren't. Turns out that in practice these attacks don't actually yield much actionable data due to paranoia and basic OPSEC keeping the usual suspects away from KYC'd platforms.

And as you know, non-use of KYC'd platforms = no leads to follow. Addresses and amounts can't be traced on-chain, sad day for the glowies.

In any case, nothing that can be done about it right now. We'll start to panic when the MRL homies say its time to panic. .

>>57893356
>>57893597
>>57895758
Thank you for blessing us with these images, very cute!

Hey guys, need urgent help, about an hour ago I sent some XMR to an address which expires in 3 hours (Now 2) And my transaction is not confirming at all, I've been waiting for an hour. Am I fucked? It wasn't a small amount that I sent

>>57898458
connect the wallet instance to another node perhaps

monero.fail

hey bros how is i2p working, are there a ton of sites now

>>57893356
Cute

guys what's going on?
are the powers that shouldn't be pissed off and doing something?
I'm scared
>>57895038
is that an oven?

>>57898458
Resync your wallet and your xmr will be spendable again. Send your entire balance to yourself with a high transaction fee and you'll double spend, invalidating the first transaction in the mempool

>>57898458
Why you burning XMR bro I could use it.

>>57898458
Switch nodes and rebroadcast.

>>57894053
(IP changed)
No node profit, I'm just going to be selling things in XMR so it behooves me to support the network.

>>57899040

>>57898458
what wallet are you using and what fee did you use for it? network is experiencing slowness due to a spam attack, so you need to select a higher fee to send it quicker. It'll probably be fine.
>>57897614
open your eyes retard. more people are experiencing transaction issues because of the mempool growing and now there are 125k transactions in the past 24 hours. This is a flood attack. It's not the end of the world but it is problematic.

>>57842148
>T. Living in hyperinflation
My aunt needs medical help and I can't afford anything if you guys can give me XMR I will post updates
89aKogahnnCbjPTEyayKZ4ZFCSWANddtf3Rj9sA6gyfeXgJV37R9GNrNkoVSCoDgT9Qr43DYrdCbtNMZCC4H6w5uApfP1pC

Monero now has a low-fee line.

>>57899999

>>57899585
Nice try faggot, that's not his address. Kill yourself

>>57900191
I have multiple addresses.

you need monero to become a tranny

>>57899541
what proof is there that this is a flood attack other coins have been rising lately as well

>>57898458
confirmed block 3100236
glad u made it fren
sending big monero with small fees? neber agen

hello frens, how rich is monero in the darknet, I remember a long time ago it used to be only bitcoin

but how is it now, is it just obvious that only feds are using bitcoin, how are things working

I'm still somewhat shocked looking at darknet news and seeing these retards trying to launder bitcoin, like, bro, if they know your account you can't claim you don't have access to it when the funds move, funny

>>57900669
everyone saying its an attack doesn't understand that attacking monero requires you go unnoticed (and its almost certain monero has been under such an attack for years)

what's happening now is someone seeing what that dude did to nano and thinking "hey i know of another blockchain that has artificially low fees i can easily cause trouble for"
don't overthink it

3rd day in a row of daily tx all time high. 120k.

Reminder that moonfags get the rope.

>>57903717
just so they can hand it to you drug addicts

so now that we know it's a flood attack, what are the implications of it?

>>57842267
I see many people claiming that markets are switching en masse to I2P but I've got yet to see one.>>57874856
>>57898902
There's quite a lot of blogs and torrents and small websites.
I'm not aware of any dark markets on it though.

>>57904014
it isn't, flood attacks are undetectable and all encompassing.
>>57901787

I'm Satoshi

>>57904085
Alphabay is on i2p

Average block size is close to 300k. If anything, this is practical test of the increased network use and community should decide how ok is current rules and maybe increase tx fees slightly or something, during next fork.

>>57904305
nothing makes me more bearish on monero's developers than their lack of understanding how low fees destroy the privacy model of ring signatures

>>57904305
nothing makes me more bearish on monero's developers than their lack of understanding how low fees destroy the privacy model of ring signatures

As self appointed reichsminister of monerochan propaganda it is my job, no, my duty to provide you with cute and funny monerochans. I'm no good at drawing or gimping, but playing with dolls I can do.
It makes me happy and paoud to see my work so well received. There is going to be much more! Stay tuned!

>>57904420
you're dragging these threads out of the depths the midwit op spammer has taken them to in the last few months

>>57904434
It's the least I can do to help monerochan to rightful supremacy.

Synthesize estrogen in your bathtub and sell it for XMR.

>>57904333
>>57904339
how do low fees destroy privacy of ring signatures?

>>57904604
Why not fent?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-t4lmHcXqw
this is the funniest shit ever

>>57904914
ring signatures only work when the cost of mass deploying tainted decoys outweighs the reward for doing so.
if monero had the fees of bitcoin, for example, it's privacy would be vastly increased.

>>57905256
It's sad more than anything.

Is there any place to see developer discussions about the crazy tx rate increase?

>>57905256
>Monero is le bad... because...
Did I guess right?

>>57905845
test

>>57863818
we don't post 9gag memes around here

>>57906083
Nice, I first imagined it would be the Talmud by reading the caption

>>57906285
That would be very autistic and based but sadly I don't have any talmudry. I might be able to print out a cover and glue it onto another book convincingly.

>>57905326
>if monero had the fees of bitcoin, for example, it's privacy would be vastly increased.

lol. How about we keep the fees low but get rid of ring signatures instead?

>>57863167
>>57854318

They potentially control 80% of the txs right now. How many of the txs would that let them deanonymize?

Also, if one, as an example, can deanon 10% of the txs, does that mean that if you send the funds once to yourself before sending them to someone else you effectively make it only 1% probable that both of your txs are deanoned? (and I believe both of them would need to be deanoned for you to be deanoned in practice)

NEW THREAD: >>57906602
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>>57906576
>They potentially control 80% of the txs right now. How many of the txs would that let them deanonymize?

At the current ringsize that would be slightly above 1% of TXs. And that's ONLY if funds are sent *directly* to a KYC'd platform.

>Also, if one, as an example, can deanon 10% of the txs, does that mean that if you send the funds once to yourself before sending them to someone else you effectively make it only 1% probable that both of your txs are deanoned? (and I believe both of them would need to be deanoned for you to be deanoned in practice)

Churning will help, don't overdo it tho. Just send to yourself a few times at random with at least 6-8 hours apart. That throws a wrench in their plans.

And above all, don't fucking panic: this ain't the first flooding attack (if that's indeed what this is) Monero has dealt with. Its a welcome stress test, a showcase for how the network functions under pressure.

>>57907444
Thank you for answering even after the new thread was created. The advice is also very appreciated.

>>57905256
I already know what RMS is going to rant about, but it's pretty impressive they somehow got him on. I doubt he knows anything about crypto. Going to watch it.

>>57909023
Please post about your conclusions it in next thread. I'd like to watch it but can't right now.
Anyway it's amusing how leftist types hate crypto but proclaim a love for freedom.

>>57909311
Will do.

>>57906553
also valid, if only the devs didn't glow brighter every time this was brought up

>>57874856
Incognito market exit scammed, this was made public on the 5th or the 6th.
You can see the corresponding activity from that on monero txs and I think on bisq as well.