/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57815607
>won't get to flirt with cute latina cashiers anymore
It's fucking over bros, the West has fallen.

>>57815607
>fully automatic
Absolute bullshit. The employees are there you just can't see them

>>57815607
This will not last, especially in urban environments.

>>57815607
so crypto bros cant work at wcdonalds anymore

>>57815607
There is no machine that can assemble thousands of burgers a day without supervision.

>>57815607
Old news bro. London tried this shit a decade ago. I always order in person. I never use the machine. I walk up to the cash register and I wait. I will call out if I have to. I would just rather have someone take my order. Simple as

this will surely amaze gunna.

>>57815635
correct

>>57815607
>food becomes cheaper.
>people buy cheaper food, which means they save money.
>people used that saved money to purchase fringe products.
>demand for fringe products increase.
>fringe industry experiences shortage of workers, and thus offer higher paying premiums to meet demand.
>people who lost their jobs now work in the fringe industry.
>cycle repeats.
>unironically attain UBI but not becomes incomes are equal but because products are so cheap.
>you get to now anal in the ass the, blowjob in the mouth immigrants like a warlord, if you want.

>>57815677
UBI is great until the State turns off the money dispenser and refuses to turn it on till you meet their demands.

>>57815607
sergey won

>>57815607
This has been around for at least a year now. RIP to those whose order gets stolen from the pick-up shelf and there's no real person to complain to and get your order remade.

>>57815677
>Food doesn't become cheaper it become more profitable

>>57815677
This is what people thought would happen with industrialization. Instead it forced people to work harder and longer for less money while having to get extra training.

>>57815753
>competitor steps in

>>57815787
>Collaborates with competition to maximize profits

>>57815607
>Last Updated: Mar 22, 2023, 12:32:00 AM IST
It's not coming fast enough, unfortunately. When I can order food anywhere without (((their))) pets handling it, it will be bliss.

>https://web.archive.org/web/20240303191823/https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opinion/just-in-jest/its-robot-mcdonald-and-were-lovin-it/articleshow/98880050.cms

>>57815607
>why would anyone go to school or pay taxes or participate in such a society?
for honor

>>57815696
No, you got it wrong. There is no UBI. Only UBI-like effects. Products are so cheap, it might as well have been UBI because you could do more with your money.
>>57815753
Study marginal costs of reproduction. Then study competition equilibrium. Then study monopolies (absolutely based if you're not mindhacked, read bell labs).
>>57815764
I agree that cronyism is a problem. I would like to think that we learned from history, but the odds are not in that favor. We'll make the mistakes. But for us who see the mistakes before it happens, there is much for us to profit. If you are not in a position to capture this opportunity, there is nothing for me help with.

>>57815677
>food becomes cheaper
Unironically stopped reading there kek

>>57815868
Study inflation. Then study technology deflation. Or just buy bitfuck or mETH.

>>57815630
>don't have to interact with women at mcdonalds
based

>>57815888
>bro read muh books about work
SOURCE ONE EXAMPLE IN HUMAN HISTORY WHERE WORK FORCE PARTICIPATION DROPS DOESNT END IN STARVATION. OH THAT WASNT REAL COMMUNISM RIGHT FELLOW LIBTRANNY?

>>57815630
over here its cute skinny black teens that are always overly flirty

>>57815853
Products have only gotten more expensive my entire life.

>>57815853
Economics isn't a real science

>>57815607
I don't care. I just want fast food places to be aesthetic again.

Bullish on CosMc's

>>57815660
you underestimate how lazy the goblins who order mcdonalds are

>>57815764
>This is what people thought would happen with industrialization. Instead it forced people to work harder and longer for less money while having to get extra training.
You could work 30 hrs. a week in a WFH setting in 1700? Didn't know about that, chud. The 40 hour work week, even in some fucked wagie conditions is far preferable to being a small scale preindustial farmer or working 14 hours a day/6 days a week in some Victorian sweatshop

>>57816354
>tfw you will never be a kid again and explore the McDonalds playground

>>57815850
Live by the piss, die in the piss

>>57815607
Why should we pay anything if it doesn't cost McDonald's anything?

>>57815677
>>food becomes cheaper.
LOL!

>>57816588
Man, I'd be happy if they stopped pretending to be Panera Bread and brought some colors to the table.

I also want Taco Bell to use a chihuahua again

>>57815764
False. This DID happen with industrialization, remember that median household income in 1970 was 235oz of gold. The decline in real terms incomes since '71 is an artifact of monetary expansion, as new money will always flow preferentially into low impedance assets

>>57816470
Whataboutism. Try harder, bootlicker. You will never be a billionaire.

I'd rather robots make my food than some greasy teenager or ranjesh with cum stained hands. Shit I'd even pay more for it.
>>57816686
McDick's makes pennies in profit per item sold. The margins are thin af. Talk to any franchisee that opened a store and see how easy you think it is.

>>57816686
To provide value to shareholders like me, go buy your goyslop

>>57815607
The end result of this will just be more EBT money for unemployed niggers

>>57815630
Fat McDonald's workers were the easiest fucking pussy ever. Especially if you found them right as they got chubby but before they got fat from getting high in their own supply.

>>57815635
Yes, they're pouring oil, taking out the trash, and restocking shelves. In other words, doing all the shit that's too menial or cumbersome for being robots to do. Congrats, humans, you conquered space just to watch your grandkids be the tool birch of their AI overlords.

>>57815607
Are you just now discovering what capitalism actually is?
The only system that ever delivered a high standard of living for its people without enriching jewish bankers was mercilessly crushed by three empires.

>>57816354
For me it's

>>57816830
>muh system
Statist slavemind.

>>57815607
Then get my fucking order right.

It's a blessing to be able bodied
as others have said white collar jobs go first, a robot with the dexterity and power efficiency to replace a carpenter is still about two decades away (at least)
if all the office jobs disappear I might try to USD maxx by working on a deep sea oil rig kek

>>57816834
>we could have had this retrofuturistic glory everywhere
Never forget what they took from you.

>>57815677
robots are more expensive than wagies tho

>>57815630
>flirting with customer service bitches
Just

>>57816901
Just because you're gay doesn't mean the rest of us are.

>>57816860
It's a bit more complicated than that. I believe some white collar jobs will be impacted first (mostly programmers and "corporate" artists), followed by certain types of blue collar work (i.e., manufacturing stuff). I imagine engineers and research scientists will be among the last to be affected, and if you make a robot that can fix machines and conduct experiments, you can also probably make one that can fix plumbing.

But I also think people vastly overestimate the ability of these programs to actually do any jobs by themselves. The only reason why new and novel jobs might not spring up after a period of disruption is because regulations and inflation are making entrepreneurship/innovation prohibitively difficult.

>>57817009

What about federal government jobs? Aren't most of them white collar jobs?

>>57815660
>I would just rather have someone take my order. Simple as
Nowadays? Why? People are largely incompetent retards who dgaf. Sorry - it's true

>>57816860
To a degree yes. The issue with actual physical labor being replaced is that it is unironically cheaper to just keep paying a human vs buying, transporting, and maintaining a robot to do that work.
I actually had a fun discussion because someone tried to pull that on me and I was like.

"Roru, Rumao even some guy at a computer is FAR easier and cheaper to replace then a person putting products on a shelf all day."

>>57817009
The issue is how does the robot get to the location to do the plumbing job. I am sure it can get figured out but again it is just easier to replace some guy pressing buttons then it is to justify the cost of replacing a plumber.

>>57815630
how do you do it

>>57817065

I guess no one wants to answer my question. Federal government white collar jobs are safe!

>>57817656
Oh no they're fucked beyond belief they've already digitized tons of government work.

>>57815607
No

>>57815607
Wagies are not needed. So much for your muh workers rights revolution lmfaoo

>>57815607
It's in Texas actually
https://kisscasper.com/is-there-really-a-fully-automated-mcdonalds-in-denver/
https://corporate.mcdonalds.com/corpmcd/our-stories/article/texas-order-ahead-lane.html

>>57815636
AI sees them as 17th century kangs and pharaohs
they are all good

>>57815660
Good luck with that. The McDonalds and Taco Bells near me they will literally ignore you or direct you to the machine. Only exception I EVER see is if it's like a 70 year old boomer.

>>57815607
if they automate all the jobs, who is gonna be spending money at these corporations? are they gonna have to provide more gibs?

>>57815607
I call bullshit. What McDonald's in America uses the term "takeaway"?

>>57815607
Automation like this can't work in most places in the world because of N's. They'd just smash up the place and take all the McDonalds for themselves

>>57819196
>N
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>>57815607
I support this, the food won't be fucked up by a retard who cant read instructions off a screen and no dirty foreigners will be handling my food.

>>57815607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d7SaO0JAHk

>>57815677
>>food becomes cheaper.
McDonalds won't get cheaper.

>>57815635
Correctamundo. Taco bell came up with the idea first tho. Keeps snowflake gen z workers from having panic attacks and quitting in front of raging sheboons

>>57815630
You can flirt with the robot girl who takes your order.

americans don't say takeaway

>>57819650
Lol that's a good point. I'm American and kind of squinted at that but thought it was some weird branding thing. Some Brit is memeing.

>>57815677
>>food becomes cheaper.
pffffHAHAHAHHAHA

>>57815660
were you the guy who pointed out that since the majority of your customers were jeets there was a 100% probability of the touchscreens being covered in human shit

>>57815677
Turdies will outcompete everyone in this fringe market you speak of. Normal westerners cant compete with a brownies ability to shit out cheap product for nothing. You will be getting no sucky sucky sir!

>>57816860
>a robot with the dexterity and power efficiency to replace a carpenter is still about two decades away (at least)

It's more like 2 years away, the advancements in dexterity and generality has increased exponentially over the last couple of years. We also found we could just put a LLM like GPT4 into a robot body and it would just "know" how to move by reading the blueprint and signals of the robot.

2 years away from being able to do carpentry (slower but working 24/7) 5 years from being as good as median carpenter and 10 years for carpentry to not be a human endeavour at all.

That said I'm a fucking Software Engineer with AI specialization and I will lose my fucking job in 2-3 years time anyway

>>57815607
>roach infestation ends up in burger
>rat droppings on grill
>beak from dead bird in the mchicken
>AI fails to catch these anomalies because it's a brain dead program

that's eatin good in the neighborhood

oh my favorite is roof runoff through waterlogged corkboard into fryer

>>57815677
i will fucking LAUGH when the robots break down as much as the Taylor ice cream machines do

>>57820822
Those machines don't actually "break", it's always that the staff forgot to clean them on the close the night before, and being full of milk overnight, they grew sticky green mould, which means they need to be disassembled and professionally cleaned by the technical staff of the Taylor company before they are safe to use again.
Self-cleaning machinery solves this particular problem, though you're right the robots still will break often, and require high, skill high IQ employees to fix them (read: fire 10 low wage workers and hire one high wage worker)

>>57816764
This

Mutli-millionaire Jew here. I get off watching goyim shovel McGoyslop in their fat pig snouts while we profit. Comfy af.

Stay poor, fat, and stupid.

>>57820215
Your feelings aren't facts.
Your feelings are wrong.

>>57815607
so I won't even be able to work at McDonalds after I fomo the top of meme coins?

>>57815636
This. Brown people are too stupid to learn to use automated ordering and checkout systems. They also steal everything they think they can get away with. And I use the term “think” very loosely. Basically if there’s not a large white man standing between the thing they want in the door, they will take their chances on just stealing it.