/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57712166
all me btw

>>57712166
Call Pepepal and get them to reverse it

>>57712166
>I seriously am very careful not to connect my wallet to sites
Entire computer and or network is compromised.

>>57712166
anyone who uses windows or mac to store their crypto will get hacked
you will ignore this advice and continue be exploited by 100 zero days

>>57712166
lmao always transfer a small amount first

How did they even do this, it is literally transfered in around 10 seconds?

>>57712166
someone has your keys

Ah, the future of finance.

>>57712584
Bot steals anything transfered to the compromised wallet instantly.

>>57712584
they paid a high fee.

dont use this wallet adress ever again.

How does a specific wallet address get comprised ? isn't it just OP's keys which are compromised?

Is it my keys or what and how the fuck did someone get my keys?

>>57712638
Did you accept any airdrops to that wallet address in the past?

compromised wallet, sent in the next block after it touched the wallet with a high gas fee
you might have your seed in plain text somewhere, or it's malware
big lesson, get a hardware wallet

>>57712638
can be anything from you enter it in some web wallet to a compromised local wallet app or whatever.

time to wipe your pc and do a clean install of windows. (in case you dont want contact police about that theft otherwise it might be evidence)

>>57712659
Yes I did some airdrop stuff lately.
Metis, Fuel and Starknet all on their official sites and I always double check.
This PC just got a clean install too

>>57712682
your wallet can be compromised months or years before
and some bot just waiting until big cash comes in

>>57712682
also if its a new wallet. you should send a small amount to and from that wallet to stamp your keys on that wallet.

>>57712713
This wallet is years old and I am so fucking careful always. I am confused

>>57712721
you did not have it on a hardware wallet?

>>57712721
How often have you entered those keys on your computer to fire up the wallet over the last few years?

>>57712733
Twice in 3 years maybe?

>>57712166
>Another retard cryto bro scammed out of his money
Thank God. You all deserve it for being this retarded and thinking crypto is the future currency and not just gambling fun coins.

>>57712758
So its probably associated with an air-drop, unless your shit was exposed 3 years ago when you generated the keys

How many air-drops have you actually done?

Use multiple wallets next time with a hardware wallet. One for cold storage where you only send and receive, one for any kind of dApp approvals. Using one wallet for everything is just retarded.

Think of all this as paying 2K for a good lesson.

>>57712659
How do you turn down airdrops? I see every so often in CB that someone sent me 1000 shittokenmeme and it just sits there in my wallet but I do nothing with it. Is it posible to turn it off?

>>57712166
That's why you always cash out to Bitcoin

>>57712801
You cant turn them off, just dont interact with them and hide them if you see them.

>>57712166
u deserve all of it for being this retard, and thinking crypto is some kinda of utopian future currency and not just gambling on eesee

>>57712801
That's not interacting with an airdrop, that's just people sending stuff to your wallet. Just ignore those and don't sell them or anything and it's not a big deal

>>57712166
Happened to me last week, so I feel you. For me, I was stupid enough to download to cryptogame that installed spyware on my pc, and I was extra retarded enough to leave a .txt with my seedphrase unprotected

even worse, they stole my wallet and the community wallet's funds

Fuuuuuuck.
So I guess I will reinstall my whole pc, phone, make new wallets, reset my network etc. and learn from this. Ouch

The future of finance, heh.

hardware wallet fixes this

>>57712908
get a hardware wallet you fuckin tard

>>57712166
Your seed is exposed. You kept it in cloud storage, screenshot, or text document.

>>57712166
you made this thread a week or two ago, i recognize you. Why larp about this shit?

>>57713019
Look at the date and time in the picture

>>57713056
All that picture shows is someone withdrawing from mexc and then from 1 wallet to another.

>>57713148
One block later with really high custom gwei is definitely a bot

I have a billion nft scams on my nft page in trust wallet but the only nft tokens that show up on etherscan is my couple of legit ones. Does anyone know what's going on with that?

Gee sure bet you wish you had bought a hardware wallet now.

>>57713238
Can you use a hardware wallet with a phone? Specifically trezor. I don't have a PC.

>>57713244
Don't worry about it bro, you clearly don't have enough money that losing it would be a serious setback.

>>57712166
>mexc
you got a lotta lessons to learn if you wanna play in the arena

>>57713056
>>57712908
>>57712758
>>57712721
>>57712682
>>57712638
>>57712584
>>57712166
i like how you ignored the question about having a hardware wallet

>>57712659
long-time nocoiner here, just back to /biz/ today, what's an airdrop and why would it be dangerous? sounds like they send you some coins but how could they get your private key from that?

>>57712671
Windows? Are you retarded? Dual boot Linux and only use your Linux partition for crypto related things full stop.

>>57715367
>Please connect your wallet to our site to receive your airdrop
>"Do you want to give this site wallet permissions?"
>Yes
Game over, simple as that.

>>57712166
thanks for the $2k bich

>>57715790
oh so you have to be retarded, fair

>>57713211
Wallets will usually hide tokens you haven't imported manually yourself

>>57712343
>He un-ironically uses Linux
lmao

>>57713056
why do you keep avoiding the question? so you dont have a hardware wallet right?

you had 2k worth of crypto and felt a $100 hardware wallet to secure it wasnt worth the cost? do you still feel that way?

Has to be a seed phrase compromise for eth since no approvals

>>57712166
Scam blockchain. Thats how. Shouldve bought zerps. Everything else is a slow rug or a fast rug

>>57713244
buy a laptop, you can probably get a piece of shit that runs just fine for $20, $40 absolute tops

>>57715818
yes, 99.9% of cases of people losing their crypto is them being retarded/greedy

>>57712721
did you try to sell some bullshit trash that you had airdropped?

>>57715834
Yes but the opposite is happening. A bunch of scam NFTs saying I won 10,000 usdt show up on my trust wallet nft page but don't appear on etherscan which should show everything in my wallet.

OP here, no hardware wallet. Will get one. So my seed phrase had been compromised? But my password never changed etcetera.

>>57717052
Check your address here
https://etherscan.io/tokenapprovalchecker

Maybe post address here if you're comfy to

>>57715790
how's that work for him randomly having tokens sent to his wallet though (>>57712822)?

>>57717052
>So my seed phrase had been compromised?
Seed phrase?
More like seethe phrase, am i right?

>>57717062
Only this came up

>>57712873
I know what token this is and who you are.

>>57717099
Hmm idk, have other addresses connected to that wallet? Other networks? Concerning.

So it is either a malicious contract with my wallet or I have been hacked and they know my seedphrase right? I have to admit, I had my seedphrase in a txt

>keeping funds on a browser extension

holy kekk

>>57717153
a malicious contract would be able to trick you into sending eth but would not be able to auto transfer out eth, that only works for erc20/nft approvals. It's either malware or compromised seed.

>>57712166
>I just transferred 2k ETH
No you transferred ~$2000 worth of ETH. Here I was thinking you lost fucking $600k but you can't even explain your situation well. Get fucked you deserve it.

>>57712576
>always transfer a small amount first
it was only 2 grand. hardly the bank

>>57717153
>I have to admit, I had my seedphrase in a txt
this thread is satire. no one is this dumb on /biz in 2024

>>57717206
Pasheenjav from Srilanka you're responding to doesn't understand that $2k is the "small amount first"

i have 6 figs on my metamask and i have my seed written in plain text in my email

am i fucked?

>>57717090
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>57712166
welcome to the future of finance

>>57715767
>Windows? Are you retarded?
If crypto really is this insecure how could anyone think it'll ever take off as a mass adopted technology?

>>57717293
>how could anyone think it'll ever take off as a mass adopted technology?
lol who thinks that? it's been 15 years since this stuff came about, nobody uses it for anything meaningful or gives a shit about it. Being complicated doesn't help but that it really is nothing next to the fact that it simply just doesn't work (can't scale, can't solve the trilemma and never will).

>>57717293
It's still in the fucking wild west phase, retard. Thats why retards like you have any chance to make it with your retarded brain in the first place.

Once this shit matures you won't get hacked easily but you also would be fucking lucky if you get 10% in a year.

>>57717293
Windows is insecure, not crypto, kek.

>>57713244
Ledger and ellipal do for sure so I assume trezor would.

>>57712166
>metamask

everytime

>>57717404
IKR? Why don't people keep their assets on a HW and shunt them back and forward to an exchange?
>oh no i need a hot wallet it's so much more convenient and all the kids are doing it

>>57717424
Fees

>>57715367

Airdropping is the name of a mechanism by which a project feeds funds into a bot that distributes those funds to a list of addresses, usually based on some point score in a participation program of some kind.

An example of a legitimate program is the fringe fi tvl incentives that start in about a week. You lend some eth or another asset on their platform and you become eligible for various rewards. If you do it on zk sync, you also become eligible for a future zk sync airdrop.

Because of how easy it is to make serious money this way, there are a lot of scam sites trying to get you to connect to them. It's really easy to verify whether it's real or not.

>>57717404
What's a non goyslop desktop wallet for ETH?

>>57715879
Imagine unironically being safer lmao what a loser!

>>57717433
I guess saving a few bucks on fees is worth risking your entire stack then

>>57715929
Hmmmmmmm isnt that quite intetesting

>>57717550
Metamask, stupid nigger.

So you can just get your wallet robbed like in real life by anybody? There's nothing you can actually do? lol the future of finance, ladies and gentlemen

>>57712822
how exactly does this airdrop scam work? is it possible for a transaction through metamask to somehow give someone else access to the rest of the tokens in your wallet? ive always seen stuff like this hinted at on biz but never clarified

>>57712166

> The future of finance

>>57718637
>is it possible for a transaction through metamask to somehow give someone else access to the rest of the tokens in your wallet?
Yes and not only that but it's possible, through exploits, to give them access to all your tokens without even a transaction. If you just connect to a scam website they can automatically make your wallet "sign" a message through metamask exploits and boom there go your tokens. Had this happen to me about 4 months ago. Thankfully it was my gambling wallet so only lost $500 but still.

Hard lesson learned: don't connect your metamask to any website you don't 100% trust.

>>57717317
>once this shit matures
To what, like, a centralized bank? Lol what a joke

>>57712166
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>>57718460

Alright time to spoonfeed the newfags. First of all, learn what a dusting attack is, these are most common in airdrops but can happen to random people who don't even sign up to airdrops:

https://cointelegraph.com/explained/what-is-a-crypto-dusting-attack-and-how-do-you-avoid-it

TLDR; If you have signed up to a random airdrop or just have random crypto in your wallet that came from nowhere, you could be targeted by a crypto duster. They usually try to track whales and find ways to syphon the money.

>>57715790

Bingo. This is why I avoid airdrops like the plague, no matter how legitimate they seem. Do not ever trust them. This is likely how OP had his wallet syphoned.

>>57712873
>>57717153

Do not EVER fucking keep your seed phrase on your computer. Good lord. There's 2 ways to keep it safe:

1. Write it down on a piece of paper and store it somewhere safe, paper cannot be hacked.

2. Store it on a USB that is disconnected from the internet and create a faraday cage, whenever you plug this in to retrieve your phrase, make SURE it is plugged into a spare laptop that you have never connected to the internet. Sounds crazy but it's the safest way.


>>57717404
>>57718637
>>57718391

Metamask has to be the worst place you can possibly store your cryptocurrency, just in a random browser that can easily be compromised by clicking on a wrong link or downloading a malicious file. You're 100x better storing it on an exchange, like coinbase, gemini or kraken. Although this is still far from the best option, a hardware wallet really is the safest bet of all. Trezor seems to be good, just set it up and send your bitcoins there.

I am not an expert in any regard. I have just learned quite a lot over the years from watching other people. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

That's not 2k ETH, that's $2k in ETH. Big fucking difference.

You're so poor that losing $2k is your biggest fear?

Also, learn about crypto before you use it. Metamask is a hot wallet, meaning the private keys are stored on your computer, which is connected to the internet. That means if you have malware, someone else can get your private key.

Never put a lot of money on a hot wallet. You put it on a hardware wallet like Trezor.

>>57718391
>Metamask
So goyslop?

>>57717180
This. Fuck you OP.

>>57718877
checked

>>57715790
>>57715818
kek
crypto is so fucking dumb

>>57717180
>$600k

You mean $6 million.

>>57718877
>This is why I avoid airdrops like the plague, no matter how legitimate they seem.
Absolutely retarded, just use multiple wallets

>>57718877
Dont use paper tho its too damage prone, use one of the many stamped steel options
Additional recovery options store 1/3 of your phrase in some form of lockbox in different locations and custodians

Also does it really matter if your laptop was ever connected to the internet as long as it never connects again
Either physically disable it or never take it out your house so it never sees a public network it could autoconnect to
Ultimate you can never know what really happened to it before you received it

>>57718877
>>57718790
wise words from the sir, i have a gamble metamask wallet and moved the majority of my (admittedly) meager funds into a hard wallet a fair while ago, that said, is it still possible to be fucked if you approved an airdrop on a hard wallet? i dont have any specific memory of doing so but if this is just how finicky these scams prong im tempted to get another and migrate funds to a truly isolated wallet that i can hard confirm

>>57718877
Checked and based

>>57717052
not seed phrase, private key. judging by what happened, the most likely reason was you downloaded + executed a malicious program. do not ever use that seed phrase or private key again. get a hardware wallet and generate a new seed phrase. it doesnt even matter if your pc is infected if you have a hardware wallet

Is it safe using metamask with a hardware wallet? Like for staking

>>57712166
>metamask
not your keys not your crypto

>>57719412
what the fuck are you talking about retard

>>57712166
well if it makes you feel any better I burned 2 eth in fees creating then destroying an NFT collection.
easy come
easy go

my metamask got drained but I ignored it for some time and I transfered the eth I had on it months before. I think it was malware that I removed that summer. Lost around 120 something dollars as I had only dead shitcoins on it and didn't realize till months later. Hardware wallet is still safe and the only way I feel safe.

>>57715790
What if you have dedicated wallets for airdrops? If you keep things strictly separate (perhaps even on another computer).

>>57715790
>Please connect your wallet to our site
Connecting itself isn't problem. The question is what was he confirming.

>the future of finance

>>57712343
>>57717556
>safer
Yeah, tell that to the guy who lost 500k in Bitcoin because he downloaded his wallet app from the official Ubuntu store last week. The vast majority of "hacks" also happen because retards connect their wallets to fake websites because they're too lazy to set a bookmark

>>57719910
>Yeah, tell that to the guy who lost 500k in Bitcoin because he downloaded his wallet app from the official Ubuntu store last week.
source? All this talk is making me wanna become a crypto scammer.

>>57719921
>>>/biz/thread/57569971
>https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/exodus-movement-exod/38904/7

>>57720002
Holy fucking shit. Honestly genius move making a bogus snap app, and Canonical really fucked up by not checking or allowing it. I'd fucking sue them for sure.

>>57719910
>Not open source: Exodus is not open source. That means no one outside the company can see, modify, or distribute Exodus Wallet's software code.

KEKEKEKEKEKEKE

>>57720035
Snap and Ubuntu is basically already malware, kek.

I have a question regarding this. I do have a trezor, and I made the erc-20 trezor connection on metamask. are my shitcoins safe on the trezor metamask? you cant send some shitcoins directly to the trezor/trezor suite, so i think this metamask browser trezor should be secure enough right? all transactions require my signoff with the hardware wallet still i think

>>57720091
Yea you’re fine as long as your sneed phrase is safe

>>57712166
Blud is crying over 2k, I make that in a month waging. Also lost 0.7 ETH back in the day when crypto games was a thing suck as crypto kitties.

>>57718877
>create a faraday cage
Utter autism. Just encrypt it with Veracrypt or some other free solution.

>>57720302
>I make that in a month waging
top kek bro, you can't be dissing OP being such a poorfag wagie

>>57718877
>whoever made that Apu meme was autistically devoted enough to blur the lens of the glasses
Crypto really is only for autists. It's never gonna be mainstream.

>>57716605
Just ignore the NFTs. Ignore all NFTs.

>>57717052
>no hardware wallet
>>57717153
>I have to admit, I had my seedphrase in a txt

You (and anyone else who does this) are just asking for it.

>>57712166
this thread makes me really happy i don't have to worry about any of this bullshit

>>57718877
Good thread. I'm just getting started on coinbase.
Will reread the whole thread.

>>57720827
Exactly what is with all these people sending NFTs to me -- are they porn? Ain't gonna click on them, even if the only thing in that wallet is a retard stack of RAIL.

>>57719388
Yes. The private key stays on your HW wallet.

OP are you still there?

Post the list of websites you gave permission to your metamask

>>57720091
as long as you're 100% sure they are the trezor wallets(just viewed through the metamask app), and not the metamask generated wallets then its safe.

>>57721211
vc scam, ur bags are going to 0

>>57723328
You just spoke my mind.
On a second note, would you consider the use of 2FA in wallet as a better means of securing assets at this point?


Some AA wallets are integrating these features on wallets and also use social logins instead of seed phrases. Do you consider this approach safe enough?

>>57723358
>vc scam, ur bags are going to 0

kek.

He is just a retard and cares about nothing. How am I not sure he's a scammer?

>>57719910
Ubuntu vm safu saar

>>57718877
>Not your keys not your coins
At this point I'm more inclined to just leave my funds across various CEXes and just go full on with the security options, 2FA etc. I'm not a computer guy and think messing around with hardware wallets will inevitably cause me to fuck something up and lose my funds anyway. Why do people keep shilling for hardware wallets? Probably 90% of people are better off with everything in coinbase or something, especially these days with govt. regulation getting more strict.

>>57712166
That's why account abstraction is the way forward, Anon. It seriously cuts down the risk of possible security breaches, keeping users' assets and personal info safe.

>>57712343
I'm glad Brillion lets me freeze a compromised account and requires 2FA for transactions over $50, Anon.

>>57723376
You're based, Anon. These wallets are the safe haven for crypto Jeets. I'm rocking the one that partnered with FLUUS to bring RWAs to the emerging markets.

>>57725754

You mean brillion? I use the wallet as well, and I like how intuitive it is.

>>57725373
>Why do people keep shilling for hardware wallets

techbros think they're hella cool
i bought a metal press and inscribed my seed on metal plates, with one of the 16 words existing only in my heart

>>57727554
>with one of the 16 words existing only in my heart
that only removes 2^10 complexity which in computer terms is essentially nothing. Someone could have half of your 16 words and probably crack it in a few months.

>>57728484
I'm not trying to deceive the feds or something here, I just don't want someone average to be able to steal my entire phrase. An average person wouldn't know my public key either so I think I'm being quite safe