/biz/ - Business & Finance

by "no jobs" people mean "no six figure salary WFH do nothing jobs"

>>57630558
>I studied 4 years in advanced gender history and I will not take a job at starbucks!

>>57630592
this. Tons of work actually available. could go on craigslist right now under "labor" and call up any of the ads and I'd get an interview

>>57630558
Yup. Cry about it. If I can't do a cushy job I will mooch off of the system

>>57630558
>just slave away for minimum wage goy
I will exhaust every possible alternative strategy before resorting to that

>>57630608
Yeah labor pays the same as fast food but you need your own truck and tools.

Minimum wage in 1970 at $1.60 would afford you the same amount of goods back then that $89.70 dollars would buy you now.

Money is actually worthless.

>>57630558
>I'm not doing that job, that's beneath me
just rephrase it a little silly goy

>I'm not working in those conditions, that's inhumane.
You're not "refusing to work", you're on strike.

>>57630608
is CL hopping these days? I never heard about it after ~2013 but my city looks okay right now.

(Maybe here in Canada people use Kijiji? idk)

What is the landscape for classifieds like in 2024?

>>57630608
>labor

yea i didn't go to college for 4 years and get a STEM degree to work in "labor" you dumb nigger

>>57631481
Definitionally an overproduced “elite”

>>57630558
desu there are many countries like china who would bent over backwards for whtie or even afroamerican talent and since the ratio between what they pay you and the cost of living is much better than in the us you can get a relatevely big saving account by the end (well assuming you can invest it well since the conversion to usd is going to remove most it's value o nthe long run)

>>57630558
That’s cuz they haven’t discovered a job of professional gambler yet

>>57630608
theres literally nothing in NYC
im broke af and literally cant get any job to save my life. applied to best buy and retail... only to get rejected.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BSvORvIjZiU

White people are unironically owed a WFH bullshit 6 figure email job.

>>57631834
>applied to best buy and retail
The search term was "labor" dumbfuck. No wonder you couldn't even get a job at best buy

>>57631481
Lmfao yes you did, you just dont know it yet.
Labor is like the military, you better get in now while you can still pick your job

>>57633071
>sorry anon, you're overqualified

>>57630608
>just do the odd job bro
>$50 to move a couch, it's easy money
>16 couches and I have this week's rent bro
>food? you just steal it from the fridge when moving couches!
>hell I don't even own a bed, I just rotate couches I'm moving!
>btw
>you need help with a couch bro?

Someone disagreed with me when I said $20 an hour would get most people approx $40k a year before taxes. He said my math was wrong, that you were supposed to do 20x8x365

>>57633965
You should kill him. Imagine the harm he's doing to others with his way of thought.

Because money is worthless now which sucks when many of these jobs pay absolute shit as it is. Plus it’s easy to just fill up a job opening with a brown immigrant and pay even less because they don’t understand labor rights, hell they don’t understand English. If there could be better pay and benefits perhaps more people would be open to doing them

>>57633284
there is pages of recently posted jobs like this looking for workers. Too much sissies don't want to do real work and pull themselves up by the boot straps is the problem. everybody wants a lazy make work job that pays min 6 figs a year. No wonder we need to bring in migrants.

seriously tho, why is it every female I talk to/know have a "scan the badge at 8am, meetings until 11, leave at noon, day done" job? how to get one of these??

>>57631481
AI and automation has replaced you because an actual genius has made your midwit tech job obsolete

>>57634300
>no one wants to do backbreaking work at a construction site when you can make the same checking out people at target
>instead of having to raise the wage to meet the demand lets just import shitskins by the boatload.

>>57630558
Honestly yes. I dont want to go back to warehousing and grocery retail unless i have to. Constant overtime, no benefits, and constantly dealing with scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of everything

>>57630592
>oh boy, i cant wait to make 50k a year working 14 hour days while i smoke a blunt every day and drink just to get through it so i can die from cirrhosis at 50.
Damn, sounds fun. Where do i sign up?

>>57635467
Wrong again. Indians replaced the IT nerds.

>>57635444
go take business classes and then get good at corpo talk

>>57635507
true and it fucking hurts

>>57635444
be female

>>57635467
midwit spotted, please huff gasoline if you want to make it. you probably think chatgpt has replaced SWE too kek

>>57635491
>NOOOOO PHYSICAL LABOR LE SCARY I NEED TO SIT AND BE LAZY AND GET FAT BECAUSE I AM A NU MALE PUSSY

This is what you are

>>57630558

>>57630608
get an interview != get hired

>>57635566
lower back pain is from sitting on computer all day physical labor pumps the spinal fluid and keeps it healthy.

There are plenty of technical jobs that require physically being present, a degree, and the ability to problem solve. But fuck me is it hard to get someone to interview, and then to get quality guys from the interview pool. If you can follow a series of 3 to 5 written instructions correctly you are already in the upper 99% of the population.

I needed my less experienced coworkers to prepare four different 5 gallon buckets of waters with specific concentrations of metals in them for a set of experiments. We gave them the spreadsheet to do the math, double checked their amounts were right, and left them to prepare them.

7 days later, they're halfway through the experimental plan by the time I get to analyze their feed buckets. Everything is wrong, some metals are to high by 30%, some are too low by 20%, some values would have been right but they mixed up which bucket was supposed to get what. I'm realizing that on Monday I'm going to have to tell our manager that they fucked it up in the 3 unsupervised hours they got in a week, and that we need to chuck it all out and start from scratch.

Oh, and each bucket has about 11,000 USD worth of metal salts in it.
>lol
>lmao, even

>>57630558

Can't blame em. I worked shit labor jobs for so many years.

My own fault though, never knew what I was supposed to be doing or how to make money.

>>57634300
looks like an ad for an agency. no guarantee of work but its better than nothing.

>>57630558
>Another road construction contractor sent us a "we're retiring!" postcard today
The city I work for only has two contractors bidding on our projects now. No one wants to drive a paver or skid steer anymore.

>>57630558
There really isn't, people gave up looking for good jobs and are settling for McJobs and can't get them now. Boomers need to be institutionalized for parroting Biden Admin propaganda just so they don't have to fork over their retirements to save the economy

>>57636255
Do you have to wake up early to drive the paver? Do you need to be certified to drive the paver? are you willing to train someone to drive the paver? Is the pay to drive the paver below 30 dollars an hour?

>>57636120
How many of those hires were diverse?
Also, in general college students nowadays if passing are passing such low bars with weighted grades and other shit to keep people from failing or even getting C’s that they will often be that shit.

Just find a niche that makes you enough money to gamble on shitcoins and stonks with. Not everything has to be formal and registered. Just like an animal making a living off a new habitat

>>57631296
I would be so comfortable with 90 bucks an hour. Goddamn

>>57631481
>>57630608
>>57630622
HIT THE OIL RIGS NIGGA

>>57630592
A $100,000 salary today is a $45,000 salary in 2015. Six figures is nothing if you spend $400/week on groceries.

>>57636730
>Six figures is nothing if you spend $400/week on groceries
Holy shit, just grow some goddamned potatoes and stuff. Basics can be grown in pots, it’s not hard. Are these faggots eating crab and lobster every night?

>>57631296
California proposed $50 an hour minimum wage, but normie cucks think it's too extreme. I am not going to stop stealing from Walmart like a nigger until the gobernment hands me over NEETbux in the form of Universal Basic Income (monthly stimulus cheques for you retarded mutt faggots who think not getting assraped financially is Communism).

>>57630644
Spending each day doomscrolling and living with your parents isn't an alternative strategy that's just giving up

>>57636760
> I am not going to stop stealing from Walmart like a nigger
How to get away with this unnoticed?
>T. Not FBI

>>57636874
Step 1) don't be black
Step 2) just walk out

>>57636758
>he doesn’t get doordash every night
>he doesn’t order steak and lobster
Ngmi

>>57634300
>$17-19
Crime has less punishment than that

>>57634248
Why do zoomers think they all deserve great pay and a low stress job? What made them all have this main character syndrome?

>>57630558
I haven't worked in 4 years and still live with my parents. Advising anons to just give up and move back in with their parent

>>57635507
This, and is way more hilarious

>>57630558
Is this true for traditional engineering jobs also; mechanical, electrical, civil?

I doubt ai can replace these jobs, not for a long while.

>>57636730
Why stop there? Why not $800/day on groceries? Since we're just making up numbers

>>57636094
Cope
>A 2018 systematic review and meta-analysis observed that men with high occupational physical activity had an 18% higher risk of all-cause mortality than did men in sedentary occupations, supporting a so-called physical activity paradox
You slave your life away to make some shareholder suits rich while they just see you as a disposable human machine.

>>57631296
Please show your calculations retard.

>>57635479
Sounds like capitalism and the market isn't working out. If only there was an economic system where workers were able to control their wages!

>>57636301
>Do you have to wake up early to drive the paver?
Work starts at 7:00am at the earliest (there is a noise ordinance).
>Do you need to be certified to drive the paver?
You need a class A CDL and OSHA safety training which usually contractor takes care of. (These courses are offered online btw).
>Are you willing to train someone to drive the paver?
The contractor is, and if you can drive a truck you should have no issue using most vehicles on a job site.
>Is the pay to drive the paver below 30 dollars an hour?
I don't have my work stuff with me but iirc the youngest guy on one of my preferred crews is earning just north of $30/hr.

>>57637505
>I trust the science

of course you do bitch tits

If it's a full time job and it dosen't pay enough to afford food and housing in that area, then it's not a job someone can realistically take. At minimum wage they'd still end up either homeless or starving, unless they're taking 2 or 3 jobs which also reduces the amount of jobs available for other people. If employer can't make enough money to afford to pay their employees a living wage they don't deserve to be running that buisness.

>>57635479
If minumum wage goes up then employees in more skilled jobs can use that as a leverage to demand raises. Either pay them more or they can switch to an easier job that pays just as much.

>>57636730
Holy fucking SHIT

Get a grip, look at the national average and move somewhere decent and cheap you FAT RETARDED FUCK because thats what you’re if you spend this much in groceries

>>57635491
>50k a year
keep dreaming. after taxes most people only see like 20k a year

Cope, i've applied to tons of minimum wage jobs but nobody wants to hire me because i've never worked before and have a 6 year gap on my C.V.

>>57638505
these minimum wage jobs typically only hire people's friends and relatives or immigrants or whatever.

>>57631481
>I didn't go for STEM to do labor
It's because of faggots like you we have shitty manufacturing. Know-it-all engineers who never touched a wrench or a mill once in their life but are "qualified" to create designs that are nigh-impossible to machine even on a CNC or that don't fucking work at all even when made properly.
Get some actual experience as a technician first, you wannabe engifuck.

>>57638429
It's not really about minimum wage though?
Construction workers are in that weird situation where they have an intense workload that might also end up in long-term damage, yet they are paid the same as the fuckers at the cash register.
While raising the minimum wage is a good thing, the bigger problem is that construction for (((some))) reason is considered minimum wage, rather than being paid accordingly to labor done, so even with higher wages it would still be at the very bottom and undesireable, filled with migrants.

>>57638443
If that's how much it costs to live in that area, then that's how much employers in that area should expect to have to pay their employees. If they can't, they're the ones who need to move their buisness somewhere else.

>>57630558
I am employed and applying to the same level positions or higher level and get no responses or instant declines. Not even interviews.

>>57636760
Ass-raping people financially is one of the foundational pillars of of capitalism. The entire system depends on it in order to function. How else would the bourgeoisie be expected to survive if they're not balls deep in the metaphorical booty of the working class.

>>57638699
Same. I'm employed and while I'm getting some interviews, it's clear that all the good "WFH"/hybrid jobs are long gone. All that's left are shitty revolving-door jobs that employees clearly hate

faggots like OP genuinely just dont get it because they havent been job searching in the past year.
i spent all last year job searching, and its fucking unbelievable how bad it is right now, especially if youre looking for entry level with no experience.
i finally got lucky and landed a position, but i sympathize hard with anyone searching right now.
its a demoralizing buttrape, and you have to hear normies constantly giving you the most retarded advice ever and acting like theyre disclosing some wise, profound truths to you
>"just look for an entry level job and work your way up!"
>"take a second look at your resume and make sure it looks nice!"
>"well you must be doing SOMETHING wrong if you cant get any interviews"
>meanwhile, you have sent out over a hundred resumes with custom cover letters full of forged qualifications to the most bottom of the barrel entry level shit jobs in the past month alone, and youre lucky to even get an automated rejection email back
keep trying, and remember that the people telling you it should be easy are fuckheads that got their job years ago and are too stupid to conceptualize that the situation is different

>>57636760
>not getting other people's shit for free means you're getting raped

>>57638955
>remember that the people telling you it should be easy
almost always are nepo or DEI hires anyway
>dude you just gotta network
>did you "reach out" on linkedin?
>dude just go to career fairs
>should have got an internship
>just ask your uncle/dad's friends dogwalker if they have any openings
these are the people who have literally never experienced the shitshow of applying for jobs and should be utterly ignored.

>>57638728
>capitalism

>>57636760
>Cucks
Holy shit this is the perfect term for anybody still defending the status quo and falling for boomer paradigms

>>57639044
"Noooo your tax dollars can't go towards programs that help you and create infrastructure. They need to subsidize billionaire pedos so they buy their 3rd mega yacht where they bang coked up underage girls". You're such an idiot

>>57636760
Raising min wage is not a solution. You just get more inflation that way.
The problem is overpopulation and entitlement after 60 years of the boomer ponzi. That extreme buying power for basic labor came from everyone at that time being at the top of the ponzi. We're at the bottom, propping the now 80 year old fucks up so their retirement fund doesn't crash.

The best thing that can possibly happen for millennials and zoomers is a legendary crash in stocks and housing. I'm talking 90% here. It's not going to happen though. We're just kinda fucked.

>>57639320
>You just get more inflation that way.
>don't raise min wage at all for years
>get shitloads of inflation anyway
kek you kike defenders are too much
>print endless money for banks and corps bailouts is fine
>print money for defense contractors is fine
>print money for "interest" on debt we owe ourselves is fine
>print money and hand it over to boomer business owners for PPP "loans" is fine
>print money for israel and ukraine and whoever else is fine
>print money for glowniggers endless black ops spying projects is fine
>print money for medial insurance companies is fine

>but print a couple thousand dollar checks for average people? massive inflation
>raise minimum wage? massive inflation
but useful idiots like you will keep falling for the scam

>>57630558
WHy would anyone work for $10/hr when the cost of living and taxes have never been higher? Not to mention most of those jobs only offer part time or have weird requirements. If you want a good job you're shit out of luck.

Neets and illegals make more money from collecting Bidenbux than a wagecuck

>>57630558
It's really not about the status of the jobs desu, it's the wages. I've worked most of the shit tier sectors from trades to convince and they don't even cover a month's rent if you devoted 100% of your monthly income to a studio apartment.

>That's an entry level job for kids to work. That's not meant to sustain an adult
>Just take any job. a job is a job even if you can't make rent and necessities.
>The TV said there's a labor shortage!
>S&P 100 hiring 95% niggers
>Print 60% of all money in last 5 years, give it all to foreign countries
you people are crazy

>>57630558
it's literally not worth working any job that pays less than $60k a year. i make $120k which is just enough to pretend to care about work.

>>57634300
>$17-19/h
I was paid $13/h for entry general labour in Houston TX in fucking 2007. It's barely 30% more in 17 years. Still mostly illegals for labour down here up all the way to NY. White people won't get off their ass for less than $25/h.

>>57641498
this is in Canada