/biz/ - Business & Finance

>housing market rekt
>construction market rekt
>tech market rekt
using some ev to cover your gdp to debt ratio won't work, chang. xi can only print more money at this point, but the damage is already done.

>>57580086
This is the new world order if China collapsed then every other country would be harmed and vice versa. We all get to hold each other's cocks and sing kumbaya now

does op think the average chinese citizen owns an EV?

>>57580086
now, where on Earth would China gets its hands on all the advanced R&D needed to knock out production EV's, all in one convenient building?

>>57580129
The Chinese GDP per Capita is like $30,000 Americans became Chinese pay pigs for a while now. You can't into manufacturing.

>>57580121
If China pollutes as much as America does, wouldn't you think that they don't produce everything.

>>57580159
have you tried speaking english instead of that garbled unfunny 4chan meme speak?

>>57580164
China " pollutes" way more than the U.S. which is understandable considering they are the world's cheap shit factory

>>57580148
Tesla gave its platform to open source, literally mailed blueprints to ~40 V EV car system to every manufacturer

>>57580173
theyll just be making sure they havent missed anything. Lunacy opening factories there.

>>57580169
Stuff is so outrageously expensive in the us that anyone could make anything and profit as one person. Organic hippy farmers are millionaires because americattle forgot how to start a biz.

>>57580086
Countries do not collapse anymore. Not with the infinite money machine losing all semblance of shame. They just get progressively shittier.

>>57580148
What they want is monopoly on lithium. The rest doesn't matter

>>57580172
But wouldn't you think with the EPA, that America is able to produce a larger number of goods with the same amount of pollution.

Presentsing: New China Car Zhongguang Dingjiang Longdong GXLQ500J SUV CROSSOVER

A regal and fast automobile for transportating in style and luxury.

Inventive feature included:
Beltseat - 5 of them
Airbags - 5 of them
Heated and cool seats 4 of them
Roof rats
Rear bastard detector safe
The soup holder hot/cold
Radar cruising control
Collision avoiding sensor
LED ledlighting laser
Paint in shí colour
Alloyminum wheels - 4 of them with metallic spare tire
Cows' skin seating brown nuts or black or light coffee
Roollover sensor
Stop and start system
Power steerage
Power seat - all of them
Crumpled zones
High impact side air bladder - 2 of them for both size
Sun roof - pandoramic
1.6 litter turbine charged motor with .149 horsepower; 160 feet pound torx
full wheel drive (FWD)
chrome trimmings
broken glass senseerd
weem 国congguo1/ ?
Cpacitive touch screen with Addam Auto and App Carl Play
Audio system with radio FM+AM; blueteeth; ramps; dabs; aurtillery implant
China NcAP ***** five star safety rating top safely pickx
Made with REAL METAL for you

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>chinese EVs go on to dominate the automobile market
>the cars are programmed to be self driving
>problem is: the cars are chinese and also drive like chinks

>>57580240
>notdrivingthatshit.exe
Maybe Nio or some other chinkco who have been at it for slightly longer than since yesterday. I'm not beta testing Chink EVs

>>57580240
>weem 国congguo1/ ?
Say no more, I'll take 5

>>57580086
western bros how do we respond? that shit looks badass
and yes I am white

>>57580360
>ywn Rear bastard detector option

>>57580159
Chinese GDP per capita is $12,541 which is actually lower than Mexico at $13,803. American GDP per capita is $80,412 lmao

>>57580385
Sweetheart? I'm going to have 5 of them :)

>>57580086
>chink property market is going to finally recover, just 14 more days!

I work at a german automobile company and the amount of cope from the boomers is hilarious.
They either go full racist or come up with something like "chinese cars are still something new, we don't know how long they last. A german car? You know that 30 years from now if you do basic maintenance it'll still be good".

>>57580240
>Cows' skin seating brown nuts or black
Absolutely handcrafted and tailored to perfection for the demanding burger mutt consumer
The chinese really learned marketing to your target audience

>>57580499
kek, seethe and cope Ranjeet

Implessive.

With this most lecent achievement, fate has in a singre stloke, malked the decline of the west and sperred a new ela of wondlous plospelity and peaceful grobar dominance for the Chinese dlagon, which plomises to filmry stand in shalp contlast to the histolicarry broody ascent of westeln powels and the cluer subjugation it blought to the humbre nations of the wolrd. With the bressings of Chinese quantum direct-current erectlicity, quantum ailclaft calliels and quantum enhanced lairguns wirr be the instluments with which China affilms its nobre stewaldship of 21st centuly wolrd poritics and offels the non-westeln wolrd a diffelent option; an humanist artelnative to the depledations of Westeln readelship and the oppoltunity for a mole equitable and dignified murtiratelarism.

China is "too big to fail" on a short timescale, the birthrate decline is crippling and means they will simply never live up to the "1.4 billion chinks are coming for your ass" memes.

Rather than collapsing, it's more like China will never 'happen'.

>>57580455
>>57580086
>>57580112

>>57580240
>blueteeth

>>57580606
Made with REAL METAL tho
and how many of their compatriot competitors can claim that, with a straight face?

>>57580390
Adjusted for cost of living china wins no matter how you cut it. They're ppp is 30k I think. They're paying pennies for cups you're paying $10 per cup starting.

>>57580240
>Sun roof - pandoramic
>Sun coof - Pandemic

People in this thread using GDP...

>>57580195
Anon that news is 2 years old it ended when the interest rates went up

>>57580455
The property market is cancer, in every economy. Crashing it with no survivors is a good thing, which is why it will never be allowed to happen in the west. Enjoy slavery.

>>57580204
Same amount? Probably not China has a large serf population working for nothing.

>>57580892
China is the king of many cope categories.

>>57580086
These look so much cooler than American cars kek

>>57580892
Chinese have shit quality of life and are constantly jumping off buildings and killing themselves. China is not a utopia. it is nightmare slave world x10

>>57581837
That was before 2008 you guys are clueless. Foxconn workers make $15 an hour now.

>>57580573
I don't see why it'd be crippling, they can just replace their urban populations over time. Keep in mind that the overwhelming majority of China is rural, as opposed to other nations.

>>57582024
Agriculture is 7.2% of chinas economy. Stop coping. Here's a picture of the cccp to make you more butthurt.

>>57582024
Birth rate for China is a meme. They can import essentially infinite labor from ASEAN on labor visas like Japan does if it gets to the point where they have a labor shortage.

Endgame is that they China becomes the USA of East Asia, where everyone in Asia gathers and mixes together, but with special privileges for the Han, similar to Arabs in the Gulf region.

>>57582057
??? What am I coping about you moron. I literally just said that most of their POPULATION lives in the rural provinces, not in urban settlements, and the urban populations can simply be replenished from the constant rural --> urban migration, and that's not even to mention immigrants from south-east Asia. Holy fuck you people are so stupid, literally impossible to have any kind of geopolitical conversation without "hahaha you're a coping wumao implessive!" Get a grip.

>>57582131
That's what I was thinking as well, I don't think it's likely that they will experience any kind of demographic collapse.

>>57580466
It's true, you wumao piece of shit. Post your yellow filthy hands with a timestamp over this screen.

>>57580466
German cars are good if you do maintenance on them regularly but it’s expensive in the US. They have good quality usually from Audi and Porsche

>>57582131
>>57582159
>replace your country with foreigners, goy
Oh boy here we go again.

>>57580240
Killing me anon

>>57580240
>Crumpled zones
>broken glass senseerd
>weem 国congguo1/ ?
my fuck sides

>>57582664
I'm not saying it's a good thing, it never is. But keep in mind that south-east asians are, very roughly speaking, to Han Chinese what Slavs are to Germanic peoples. Not quite the same, but not exactly egregiously different like NAFRIs/jigaboos or a*abs.
It could be far worse, so it's not a horribly bad situation for them.

>>57582808
Oh how ignorant you are.
In Singapore, mainland Chinese are treated the same as pajeets. They refuse to let them sign leases to rent properties because they are animals.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/02/singapore-rental-racism-prc-and-indian-tenants-often-deemed-undesirable.html

>>57582855
>In Singapore
Good thing we're talking about mainland China, not Singapore. Not to mention that doesn't disprove anything I said about their inherent similarities relative to Africans, 'jeets, and Arabs, who are inherently wildly foreign. The irony of calling me ignorant is palpable when you can't even read half a paragraph.

Either way, what's the deal with chinks Singapore? I thought the Han were top of the food chain, or maybe it was Malaysia. I don't remember.

>>57580466
German cars made in Germany aren't German tho.
They're turk, which garranteed 100% turkish quality.

>>57582649
The whole point of quality is that you have to do less maintenance

>>57580121
This man has never gotten a prediction wrong.

>>57580086
China is dumping these things internationally because their domestic market suddenly collapsed.

>>57583128
RIP Israel

>>57583128
wtf is this mental illness

>>57580086
What did established automakers think would happen when they gave away decades of IP just to make a few bucks in the Chinese market. China really got lucky the EV market took off when it did. They couldn't compete directly with refined internal combustion engined vehicles, but EVs lowered the floor of entry significantly. Most EVs are cheap consumer electronic slop which is China's forte, and the west will have a very hard time competing with.

>>57583295
A glowie with the script. Trust me when I say he has never been wrong about a single prediction.

>>57580112
His choices are:
>20%+ unemployment which will make 20% of the population mad, maybe more because the bailout will cause
>30%+ inflation, which will make 100% of the population mad (and they might just have to deal with it). If this happens, get ready for the USDRMB to skyrocket to 9.5 in the next 1-2 years.

>>57580159
>Chinese GDP per Capita is like $30,000
HELL no. The mean is more like $12K but the MEDIAN is more like $7-8K.

Also, re-growing the national GDP might not ever happen again. The property bubble will never return. Xi Jinping stood in front of over 1 billion chinese and said that housing is for living, not speculation. So to just inflate it again would just make that a lie to spin the face of the Chinese people (it won't happen).

Source: 相信我哥们

>>57580086
>Inb4 they start to catch fire in people's garages

>>57583128
It doesn't sound that far fetched. Everyone and their grandma can see murifats shooting at each other.
>>57583345
You're sorrounded by high speed trains, now you'll be sorrounded by electric cars with good infrastructure to charge them. American trains are falling apart and they're sticking to the gas pump.

>>57580086
>an EV called X is better than a Tesla
Toppest of keks.

>>57580173
>open source
kek
a nice way to say tesla are made without proprietary knowledge lmao

>>57583521
>It doesn't sound that far fetched. Everyone and their grandma can see murifats shooting at each other.
Nibba the food and netflix and comfy cars n couches are too good for us to shoot each other. No civil war without severe comfort collapse and that aint happenin. Stay cozy

>collapse
The wumao always love to use this word. China doesn't need to "collapse" to be a fucking joke. Their market just vanished 6 trillion USD in a week because their real estate is a scam that's like if 2008 and Enron had a baby.
Regular citizens have zero faith in their markets and so they invested everything in real estate and those real estate companies invested in the market. Now it's all fucked and the Chinese government is locking trading and buying up everything desperately trying to prevent a free fall.
Let's see how long they can keep it up.
Reminder that countries don't "collapse". They just get really shitty really quick. Venezuela didn't "collapse". Cuba didn't. Argentina didn't. Turkey didn't. North Korea didn't. Japan didn't. America didn't. The UK didn't. All of these countries had major events cause their market to take a shit. Some just never recovered but they're still countries.
tldr shill thread

>>57580121
America warned investors like 6 years ago that Chinese companies were cooking the books and that they were going to be delisted if they didn't comply with requirements about opening their finances. Any American company with any sense divested from a Chinese fall out long ago. Especially after COVID. If you got caught with your pants down after all this time you deserve to get fucked.

>>57580197
This nigga gets it

>>57580086
I'm pretty sure it's mostly salty Euros posting these/in these threads, not Americans.

>>57583736
I am speaking from experience in Latin America. Before shit hits the fan there is a period where everyone knows shit will hit the fan until it does. Like the Chilean riots for example. Everyone knew they were going to happen. Overall not many people got shot but Americans have too many guns for people not to get shot.

>>57583736
Such ridiculous cope

>>57583521
>muh trains
Why are europoors like this?

>>57581167
>Regular Chinese retail investors getting cucked out of their life savings while the firms that scammed them have their share prices propped up by the state printing new debt to buy the stock is based
Shalom

>but muh ppp
the CCP pays peanuts.

>>57582024
Their population is majority over 60 or some shit. That rural population are mostly old people. Anybody young and competent already moved to the city.

>>57583723
Kek tesla comes up with groundbreaking innovation and then lets the competition catch up because Elon wants the whole ecosystem to thrive, you know many new EV will be compatible with Tesla supercharging station right?

>>57583345
>The property bubble will never return. Xi Jinping stood in front of over 1 billion chinese and said that housing is for living, not speculation. So to just inflate it again would just make that a lie to spin the face of the Chinese people (it won't happen).
More importantly than that is it can't, the growth relied on the bond market's appetite for Chinese lending, something that'll take years to recover when banks are told to accept a 99% haircut on a supposedly AAA credit rated bond.

>>57580086
still talk about EV when consumer is in recession and oil price is low.

>>57583003
You're retarded. You tried to paint the Chinese as the Germans to a SEA slav. But Anon just pointed out that the rest of SEA sees the mainland Chinese are the jeets. Likely even worse than actual jeets. China can't solve their labor issues with immigration because Chinese as a language is too difficult for most low skill workers to learn.

>>57584199
And when the largest consumer base for automobiles in China (young professionals) is experiencing an employability crisis.

I refuse to believe the story in OP image. I don't even care to investigate it and I will continue to live my life willfully ignorant of it. I am certain that it has no relevance to anything today and I will never see or experience what it is related to.

>>57583128
2 more weeks until the world ends

trvst thv plvn

>>57583521
>Muh trains
We don't use trains in America because we have options. There's laws in China around who can drive on what day of the week because there's too many retards.

>>57584026
>Latin America
Explains why you're so fucking retarded. Stop voting for communists and you won't have problems.

>>57584403
Nothing works in Latin America. Bolsonaro was a lolbert and that didn't work. It's a cursed middle income continent.

>>57584441
As long as you know. Now do us a favor and stay out. America is a hell on earth globohomo nation that's about to collapse after all. Why come all the way here for that?

>>57580240
lmao

>>57580240
>Made with REAL METAL for you
4me?

>>57584441
cursed due to shitty Brits and America douche bags and their democracy they spread with bombs. Fuck America and its 1940's trains and old news Elon elec cars.

>>57583303

>>57584759
Shut up faggot. You're cursed because you're brown and you're brown because you're cursed.

>>57584759
>cursed due to shitty Brits
the fug did we do in Latin America?
>lately?

>>57581851
https://amp.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3217551/foxconn-wages-fall-below-us3-hour-shenzhen-apple-shifts-supply-chain-away-china

You mean $3

>>57580086
That is one of the most ugly fonts I’ve seen in a while, very chinese

>>57584215
It's certainly not the same comparison, and you're right that the language barrier is significant. Then again, that doesn't exactly stop the Japanese from doing the same thing, though ofc Japanese is easier to learn than Chinese.
That being said, I already mentioned replenishment from the rural provinces. Migration is so bad that authorities make a concerted effort to bus out the people who come in and end up homeless. I honestly don't see China collapsing anytime soon, but that isn't so say that they aren't going continue to face growing instability in many areas. It's certainly not all fine and dandy.

>>57584026
Latin America is not the US by a long shot. Unironically nothing ever happens. There won't be a civil war, certainly not over something like trespassing of illegal aliens.

>>57580240
you actually made me laugh anon. thanks

>>57580086
Tesla bros??
Not like this!

>>57580240
Thanks for the chuckle anon

>>57580086
I'd buy a chinese car over an american one any day of the week

>>57586019
Rural Chinese are old people. Their population is old as fuck and the young people with skills are all unemployed. Turns out command economies don't work.

>>57580086
have fun dying in in a 5,000 degree fire when these chineseum cars go up in flames LOL

>>57580240
What a sick fucking joke everything is, god fucking damn it.

>>57581111
Go to the grocery yourself instead of relying on your aged mother. Shit hasn't fixed itself and won't for a long time.
t. 7 digit purgatory

>>57583128
Weapons grade anti-west copium

>>57583318
>never been wrong
Because this nigger never gives a timeline.
Can never be wrong if schzi fever dream still has a non-zero chance of happening in the future (it won't).
>inb4 glownigger
(You) just said trust me. Sure thing Q.

"Zeekr X" sounds like something a 5-year-old made up on the spot