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>>57544631

>>57544631
>>57544648
the toning looks really good!

>>57544638
Howdy.
>>57544631
>>57544648
Looks fantastic Anon.

>>57544678
>>57544783
thanks!
>cyber queen coin
whoa that looks almost 3d

>>57544783
Homo_coins.jpg

>>57544819
It is.
>>57544840
Takes one to know one.

When did Bold go to shit? I bought an ounce of gold from them on 1/26, which they claimed was in stock. It's now 2/8 and they still haven't shipped it. I asked about it days ago, and finally got the following reply:

>We are sorry to inform you that there is a delay in shipping your order as we are still waiting for the 2024 1 oz American Eagle Gold Coin (BU) from our depository. Most of our gold products are stored in separate facilities/depositories for safety purposes, then we have it forwarded to our shipping facility whenever we receive an order, however, we can confirm that your order is expected to be shipped on this week or early next week.

Really? So now you can buy "in stock" items from Bold and wait 3 weeks before they even ship it (assuming it doesn'tdelay any longer). I'm not buying from Bold again.

I heard other anon's have had issues with them recently too, and when they call, they're only able to speak to the jeets they outsource their customer support to, who are of course no help.

>>57544581
Nice bands
like my dragon bux?

How does everyone think PMs will hold up during the upcoming recession? I've purchased about 20oz of silver in preperation already; but just wanna know that other anons think

>>57544783
The cat is the only redeeming quality. This is a goyslop coin and not in the ironic Shrek or Pickle Rick kind of way

>>57544559
stacking goals for 24...Quarter ounce of gold every month. done with silver this year. Just ordered one tube of eagles in january and no more silver until 2025. Silver is dead in the water right now. Ebay has good deals though

>>57544970
In the past it did well during a recession. Americans are super schizo about their government and equate recession with a complete government failure, so it tends to do well.

>>57544581
i cant imagine spending money on this paper meme shit and not buying physical instead

>>57545014
>literal gold and silver
>calls it paper

>>57545048
it just looks like retarded anime shit and no one will want paper goldbacks over real bullion. You're not going to be able to liquidate that easily or get your money back.

>>57544953
i haven't had any issues with them
if they keep having good prices i will continue to buy

>>57545048
i know it has microscopic gold dust inside or whatever, but it still feels like paper to me.

here's a 14k gold ring

>>57545110
>microscopic gold dust
>posts /jew/elry

>>57544953
jeets are awful

>>57545140
it's an inherited piece. same with these coins

>>57544559
smol bois reporting in

smol*er bois reporting in

The gold chickem.

>ywn roam the countryside terrorizing the peasantry adorned in shiny gold leaf

>>57544559
>Fractional Edition II: smoller gold

USfags, what is wrong with your women? HAHAHAHA

crypto nerds will seethe

our silver and gold shall make us kings

>>57545816
Ask yourself what does modern united states culture revolve around?

>>57546051

>>57546125
mesmerized fren?

>>57546051
based

There's 17 bids on these gold bars. Are those bidders retarded or is there a significant chance that these aren't plated?

>>57546506
usually auctions shoot up in price at the very last second. so if they're from a reputable seller, the price will go up to spot minimum

>>57546689
I've just noticed that the seller has only sold 5 items before, so I'm leaning on retarded.

>>57546506
Why does it matter if they are plated? Serious question....like it's not like you are making electronics out of it where it needs to be real actual gold you are just going to look at it fondle the plastic case in hopes of getting estrogenic chemicals put it under your pillow take a picture of it everyday with your girlfriend (tranime doll) perched next to it to post on redddit in hopes of getting other fake gold redddit gold so just buy the fake stuff and save your money for something important like new outfits for your tranime dolls.

Post your thickest stack for me.

Speaking of fake gold being real,,,,,......1 bitcoin imaginary computer token money is now worth 2000 ounces of fake physical silver......kektop ......silver is basically worthless....like you can't even pretend silver is valuable so what's the point of bragging that you own 14 or 88 ounces when some imaginary bitcoin is worth 2000 ounces....kektop

>>57546964
>same loser that bought btc in 2021 while spamming about it
>same loser that gets 5 hours of sleep a night
>flash forward 2024 he is still seething about precious metals, now he only sleeps 3 hours a night.
you need to get more sleep jesse

maybe if you can save up several years of your working wage you'll have something worth sharing too

I've got a simple question and would like to get some answers from (you)

You see, when trading gold jewlry even low karat pieces will be valued for their gold melt value atleast, no? I have a theory about junk silver, while it's still somewhat unpopular compared to pure silver bullion, given time increasing demand for silver overall, wouldn't junk silver gain more of it's value potential so to speak?

As of now I can buy junk silver coins slightly below spot, all while .999 bullion or bars are sold at 21%+ minimum. Personally I believe silver junk has the highest chance to gain. It's called junk for a reason, but that's the current title. Some could interpret it more positively, junk is cheap, somebodies junk is another man's treasure.

I know this sounds just like poorfag cope and all but still, what's your thought on this?

>>57546964
and where can you use your bitcoin? Go ahead an list its use cases. Its a ponzi. Try to cash out your bitcoin when the power grid goes down. Try to use your bitcoin when SHTF. Whats the point of bragging that you own 14 or 88 bitcoin when some real tangible asset like physical silver has many use cases, including monetary intrinsic value

>>57547022
government backed bullion will always carry higher premium and be more desirable to buyers/sellers of silver coins

>>57547029
>when the power grid goes down. Try to use your bitcoin when SHTF.

Lmao you retards actually think the sky is falling or your 14 ounces of silver would help you during your imaginary zombie apocalypse? Kektop those silver merchants turned you into scared retards anywho I don't have to worry because you also fantasize>>57547016
>>57547006
That I'm peniless!!!....nice coping retards to cover the emotional pain of you losing 80% on retard rocks

>>57547039
yes ok, but see your own post prior. shtf and all paper funny money got the weimar 1923 treatment. Wouldn't premiums fly out the window? what premium even, how'd you calculate that when everyone returns to a pm standard. two oz .500 silver junk coins (fictional) will translate to one oz pure silver coin and vice versa. don't you think? gold and silver are money itself

>>57547039
>government backed bullion


Kektop no such thing exists retard

>>57547022
Junk silver will be good providing you know who will definitely buy it at the price you want. Here's what I would do.

Buy junk silver below silver spot price.
Refine it into pure silver (can be done at home with relative ease).
Sell to metal buyers (usually small businesses) that will buy the pure silver at spot because you have absorbed the refinery cost yourself.

>>57547109
were you ever going to reply to my email? you managed to make another trade after that nvda windfall?

>>57547131
>Kektop no such thing exists retard
Yes there is, it's call legal tender.

>>57547127
government coins are more recognizable and have anti counterfeit tech, so buyers and sellers would be more trusting of those over generic meme rounds that might be fakes

>>57547127
>when everyone returns to a pm standard

You retards say and believe the dumbest things, Remer last year muh brics muh brics and then you lost another 20% on your shiny retard rocks because you believe everything the scammers tell you

>>57547131
American Silver/gold Eagles are the most liquid and well recognized legal tender in the world.

>>57547135
>Buy junk silver below silver spot price.
Refine it into pure silver (can be done at home with relative ease).
Sell to metal buyers (usually small businesses) that will buy the pure silver at spot because you have absorbed the refinery cost yourself.

Brilliant plan retard why aren't you doing this....checks nites....drug induced retardation

>>57547144
Lmao the retard who lost 80% on an obvious scam doesn't know the difference between a coin and bullion

>>57547029
You can literally buy bullion with BTC, kek.

>>57547153
You know what has real anti counterfeit technology....real paper silver backed by too big to fail JPMorgan and you don't pay a 40% premium!

>>57547166
Non responsive

bitcoin has value because the powers that be gave it value
it's that simple
and they can take it away if they want to
meanwhile, they devout so much power and energy to keeping silver price down as much as possible. makes you think

>>57547217
Won't be much longer that you can buy real tangible assets like silver with a fake meme internet money like bitcoin.

>>57547022
junk silver used to be dirt cheap with no premiums or even negative premium, nobody wanted it. its had a price rise as you describe already. now it's priced just like regular bullion if not more expensive in some cases

>>57547234
>they devout so much power and energy to keeping silver price down as much as possible. makes you think

Makes me think you only think what coin merchants tell you to think

>>57547269
>hey fellow scam victims I spent 14 hours making this dumb image where I blame the jews to cope with losing 80% to the jews on an obvious scam

>>57547300
JPMorgan has been tried and convicted on manipulating silver prices
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN26K321/

>Mute schizo ID's
>Smug as you see their muted posts scream into the ether

Hey guise good news silvers up 1.5 % today so that means you are only down 79.8% on your shitty shiny millenial rocks

>>57547393
Wow didn't know that I guess you are looking real smart on your.....checks notes.......79.8% loss on an obvious scam.....maybe you can send that link to action news problems solving team to recover your YUGE losses

>>57547402
>seethingly reading every post thinking about your massive losses while bragging that you didn't see the posts that made you cry

>>57547022
Junk silver also has the advantage of being very fractional which always carries ridiculous premiums for bullion, and for old circulated coins they're probably less likely to be counterfeited too, at least omitting ones with high numismatic value.
The purity of course means that if you're just selling back to dealers you'll get less of a premium, but if you're stacking with any anticipation of a future where you'll be transacting with silver then it makes a lot of sense to use coins that have already been used for that purpose and are cheap.

>>57547393
Full article.

>>57547486
Amazing and the price just keeps going down....hang in there kiddo I'm sure you will beat JPMorgan next year with your....checks notes....purchase of 14 Roosevelt dimes for spit price plus 48% premium to Mr shevkleberg

>>57547480
>anticipation of a future where you'll be transacting with silver

Kektop

>>57547486
What's the message here?
That manipulation is a common practice?
>We're all victims - waaahhh!
Or that these manipulators were caught and gov't recognizes the crime?
>Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>>57547920
It is to officially show that market manipulation by the banks is real. This is just one case of many, which is a pattern and some are even legal so the 'financial sector' doesn't collapse. It is all a criminal enterprise, the banking cartels run the entire show of the markets/courts/governments and do a tiny sacrifice of their scam to take the heat off them from those that can't be bribed.

>>57547920
He thinks that JPMorgan manipulating the price up or down by by $.00001 to skim some profits from traders means that silver is worth $600 an ounce because JPMorgan wants cheaper silver so scam victims like him get more silver per $ ....that's how retarded these scam victims are literally dumber than the millenial rocks they waste their life on

>>57545784
Based.

>>57547497
>4% paid on thrift accounts
Jesus fuck it was so much easier to save and make money back in the day. This cuntry is such fucking shit now. Thanks kikes, niggers and cunt women. Fuckin a

>>57548109
A wagie back then didn't have any money to save at the end of the month. The same then as now. Only difference is back then a man by himself could usually support a wife and a few kids off one wage.

>>57547242
Why is that, anon?

>>57548003
>It is to officially show that market manipulation by the banks is real.
Yeah... not credible. One instance 8-16 years ago.
>This is just one case of many,
Make a list. Post it.

>>57548183
Bank of England has some legal legislation to manipulate the market gold price for 'stability' reasons if there's a market shock. I've seen the BoE use it in real time, always happens a day or two before the CPI is reported. I always use that opportunity to buy gold cheapies, just got to buy before 7am.

Why does everyone call me “anon”?

My name is Bradley.

Bix says 1/10 silver to gold is likely to happen

water fu

How do you clean old copper/bronze coins?
Any special potion needed?

honk honk

>>57548284
sure it is fren

>>57548096
How did you feel at work last week?

>>57544559
Based and Jap-pilled.

>>57548428
mint should do a version of the goose coin too

>>57548385
Use Cilit Bang.

>Look what it did to penny. Good as new.

https://youtu.be/WGooQ8yYC0c

i'm back to say i just hit 5ozt gold and 500ozt silver today.

we are ALL going to make it, frens

>>57548555
Noice. I'm not far off from hitting Roman Tier so I'm halfway there.

I used to stack the flat APMEX 10oz bars because the size was so aesthetic compared to the 10oz loafs. But after acquiring a 10oz loaf valcami and the long/thin 10oz Pamp bar I have to say that I am far less picky now. They're all pretty legit.

box is about full. should i get another one like this, a bigger one, tubes for the capsules, or something else?

>>57548777
I'm designing and 3d printing tubes that I would buy and want input. What are you looking for? Box? Tube? I have a bunch of smaller junk silver to organize and I don't know what to design.

>>57548797
I wouldn't mind tubes, but I haven't found a coin box that fits them yet. I'm assuming there isn't one. If you're doing something like that, a box that fits air-tite tubes / your tubes could be a really good idea.

Hey guys! Guess what?! I'm proud of this. I've always hated credit card companies. I've always deeply hated them for personal reasons. Preying on the poor, ridiculous fees, you get the idea. I have never let them get a dime off of me. I got myself a roll of silver quarters and a silver round on the way, paid for by these merciless goblins. I'm proud to add to the stack at the expense of these merciless buttholes.

Do you guys think I need gold? I'm basically like 99.5% silver. Is gold worth it? It's too expensive imo

>>57548815
A thought I had was a box that was technically "full" with voids the exact size of tubes of air tites, quarters, halves, mercs, etc.

This is the next week's work. God being good the print I left running at work will be perfect and I can work on something new.

If you could have a custom PM storage box or tube, what would it look like?

Square tubes that can fit every sized coin and round (I think the max for most is 41mm) that would fit perfectly in a locking lid box is something I could print that would be sturdy, ergonomic, and affordable.

>>57548821
I have a very silver heavy stack but I'm actively trying to stack more gold. The premiums are fine compared to the bullshit with silver and it feels like the far more slow, stable, but sure option compared to silver's risky theoretical moon mission we continue to predict with ever lengthening pdfs and youtube playlists.

>>57545816
i just saw the preorder for this and wanted to share it here. that coin is awful looking. i love Britannias but i think ill be filling out a krug tube this month instead.

>>57548385
Do not use any chemicals or acids like ketchup, any coin collector would sooner toss it in the garbage where it belongs. If you just, gently wash under warm soapy water, maybe use a toothbrush.

>>57548777
Just take out your satanic worship coins and that will free up some space.

>>57545816
Do you think there's something wrong with women being BIPOC?

>>57548385
Dish soap, steel wool, and elbow grease. If anything is left over, give it a dip or two.

>>57548777
Witnessed.

>>57548901
i don't keep the israel coins in that box

>>57548555
checked and congrats!

>>57548914
>Do you think there's something wrong with women being BIPOC?
Son, I don't understand your fancy pants college lingo and I don't care to. That bitch is ugly.

>>57548901
>Owl is Satanic worship
You need to stop gaslighting yourself with this bollocks. Athena's Owl has nothing to do with the Abrahamic religions and you can only be a Satanist if you believe in the Abrahamic god and oppose him.

>>57548108
I love geigers, they're some of the best

>>57548158
If no one saved then why is everyone trying to withdraw their money from the bank?

>>57549075
Hell yeah fren!

>>57548555
Trips checked.
I just crossed into the next tier. Woo-hoo!

>>57548438
I post on here about once every month that Japan should start making government minted gold bullion coins so I should probably put my money where my mouth is and buy some of these.

>>57549627
I told myself I was gonna stop at coinvivor and here I am at salamander

>>57548555
checked and super based.
keep stacking fren.

>>57548777
Now you can get a plastic capsule for the box! Heck yeah!

>>57548555
This shit is really cringe

>>57549541
>a few dozen people is the entire population of the US

>>57544970
they will dump heavily. we wont see a PM bull market for probably another year or 2. thats why im not going all in yet. im going to DCA as the dump happens this year. i think silvers going back to $15 and gold back to $1500. then those prices will probably be double that end of 2024

>>57545816
whats wrong with yours?

>>57547022
where are you buying junk silver coins below spot? all the dealers i see them at have them at exorbitant 10%+ over spot prices. the premiums on junk silver coins are ridiculous right now. $10 face is like almost $250

>>57549984
On a not very in depth search, this is the lowest I see right now. 17.8x face

https://sdbullion.com/90-percent-silver-10-dollar-face-value

>>57548797
Can you use transparent goo with your printer? I wanna look at what's inside without having to opent it.

>>57548914
>steel wool
Isn't wool a bit too abrasive? Even 0000 i'm not feeling safe using it, at least on valuable coins.

Wonder if the market will change now that after the Putin interview he said BRICS surpassed G7 and it has been fact checked to be true

>>57550150
China itself is more productive than the entire Eurozone and America lies about their economic figures.

>>57544953
they are probably drop shipping from multiple suppliers.

>>57548868
Your timing is off, 3 last years of high silver premium + spot @25 should have been dedicated to 50/50 with gold to mitigate the risks. But now, with very low silver premiums + spot dip + GSR at 90, silver feels incredibly cheap. While gold at ATH doesn't sound particularly attractive.

For now it feels like all the momentum who made the demand for PMs surge for the past few years completely vanished. We are back to extreme digital/paper greed, especially NASDAQ who is getting so absurd i've simply no words to describe such levels of retardness. In a way it's a good thing because a lot of the parasites (yt shills, fake bullion storage, elder scammers,..) who started to gravitate toward G&S will have to find a new grifting avenue.
So it'll be quiet and cheap for a while around here.

But as for every recession before, it does not happen when the yield curve invert, but only once it goes back to the mean. It's where we are at rn, the inversion occured, the spike is behind us and now pendulum is swinging back, and during this timelapse (lasting up to a year usually) everything seems fine, at least when you look at our (((distorded))) indicators. The calm before the storm of unemployment.

Great time to be squirrelmaxxing for cheap and continue to get your security net ready. That's for the ones able to save anything of course, which are a rare species now everything is costing x2 compared to 2018.

>>57550129
cleaning a valuable coin drops the value anywhere from a third to a half. Sometimes more.

I actually make a decent profit buying cleaned coins and then un-cleaning them (toning, applied patina) and selling for up to twice as much. Even gentle cleaning with dish soap can flat out fuck a bronze or brass coin to the point where even I can't fix it. Stuff like vinegar or steel wool destroys a coin permanently.

Permitted cleaning
1. Scrub with a plastic bristled brush under running water
2. take a toothpick and scrape off excess dirt or loose patina
3. Apply a light coat of olive oil or rub it on your nose to get some face grease on it. This is destructive but it destroys the coin very slowly, like it takes centuries to eat the coin.
4. If you really want to go crazy, submit it to NGC or some professional coin restoration and preservation service.

Bumping

>>57549984
Germany, pre '97 5 DM are the cheapest and I love them. I love going trough a stack of 250 coins, checking each single one. Last order I even had a '98 among them

This stack was achieved only after I put my full faith in the Bible, when you truly let Jesus Christ into your heart everything will fall into place

>>57551047
>the Semitic desert cult led me to gold
Cringe.

Got another free 100 ounces of silver today for each bitcoin same as yesterday. Pretty cool getting air drops of 100 ounces of silver everyday but I wish it was something that had value. Do you guys ever buy stuff that goes up in value or get 100 ounces free everyday like bitcoin holders do?

>>57551471
Do you actually have those ounces in your hand?

Or are they just numbers on a screen?

Did anybody else pick up a few 2024 Silver Britannias with Charles' head on the back? They might become more scarce since he announced that he has cancer.

>>57551563
Numbers on a screen I'm sure. I'm sure they're being held for (((safety))) by a bank.

>>57551733
I got a few on a whim before the cancer just because new monarch and since premiums aren't bad. Real question is how bad they'll survive the milk spotting long term.

>>57551563
It's stupid to hold silver in your hand just like it's stupid to hold real paper $ in your hand kektop you tards always like to say that the $ has lost x% since whatever but yall tards never hold $ more than 3 seconds you buy ubereats, tranime dolls and retard rocks. but you are missing the point if you claim to love silver for some dumb reason then buy bitcoin and get a free 100 ounces of silver. every day

Ps silver doesnt ever go up or pay interest or rent or lay eggs or airdrop silver like bitcoin

When bitcoin hits $100,000 thats another free 2500 ounces of silver 7 times the amount that all of you combined own. You must not like silver or you would buy a few bitcoins

>kektop
What did he mean by this?

Good morning. I hate the Federal Reserve.
___
What do you make of this metalbros?
https://youtu.be/yaGc4jMGcVU?si=hRlNuNZoIrNkGEDb
I know it's a long video but it's got my noggin joggin. If anything ever sparked an end to the fake and gay fiat fractional reserve economy it would be an american national level happening

>>57552356
1min in and its kinda bluepilled ngl.
Using “Le based Texas” headlines as a thesis is newfag tier shit.

>>57552545
5mins in and it’s making more sense. These days you need MAX PAIN, that can only be precipated by a big happening (economic). The right is no longer educated, principled, statesmen with strong sense of duty to country.

silverchuds ww@?

i looooove silver

>>57552356
>larp larp larp
>i have a friend who's an expert on this
>lol holocaust is le real
>normies are bad, see I even used a dumb frog image, I'm not a normie
>I will errrr... I mean civil war will start because tfw no gf
listened to all of it, he has some good points. still kinda cringe

>>57552545
I wonder about that. On one hand the border kerfuffule and other events always end up feeling like nothingburgers. Yet I don't think he's wrong when he says that there's things that feel like what you'd read in a future textbook in the "Decline and Collapse of the United States" chapter. January 6th might have been massively exaggerated and falsified but it absolutely has the trappings of a Bastille moment. And the next election WILL be a disaster no matter what. If Trump loses, he'll do the 2020 thing again, if Trump wins the Democrats will do absolutely whatever it takes to keep him out of office. Social trust is now nonexistent and I don't think we'll ever have a normal transition of power again.

>>57552569
>Horror of Auchswitz
>Vibes
>I’m an Empath
>We’re not involved in the Israel war
>I’m a big fan of therapists
>I’m 22
Yeah he’s zoomer trash.

>>57552646
You are still operating on a mainstream narrative brother. Sure it could be a dialectic to use to precipitate or allow some type of “struggle”. The only people really getting inflamed by any of this is the people, based on stories being told by the news. There are reasons why the Texas Narrative is an astroturfed farce. If i explained it you probably wouldn’t believe me. You can say that Jan 6 was overblown but the people that write the history books will completely legitimize it as Violent insurrection. That’s the danger of building arguments and thoughts around history as it is written and not intuition.

>This guy thinks he’s not a normie yet he informs his opinion based on World History (TM). He also legitimizes these politicians as independent actors! NO NO NO oooof.

>>57552731
He’s functioning of this narrative that his adulthood which happened 4 years ago, was a watershed moment where the U.S. government started lying about things and before that it was better. Hell no! I’m not suprised that this pseud story teller has such a massive following.
>We are having a hard time passing budgets more and more
yikes, this is why age and experience is important before you form your opinion on politics. Budget pony show is politics 101.
>No one can afford to not have a civil war
ehhh. Well i listened to it all. thanks.

>>57545048
>ignores the point those have a 100% premium
his logic is correct. They're a waste of money.

>>57544581
Holy based. Goldbacks have their place in every stack. Despite what the gaysayers bitch about it, it will have a role in the future when precious metals reign again as a currency. We're already seeing people use literal flakes/dust of gold in their purchases in some countries. Anyone calling this cope or a fantasy is an outright idiot.

>no silverbro to slurp with

>>57553040
its a neat on-off gift, but it cant really be justified at the premium.
why not just buy twice as much gold and divide it if needed? why pay more to get less?

>>57553040
>We're already seeing people use literal flakes/dust of gold in their purchases in some countries.
Yeah, they're paying with gold, not paper with some gold on it. The paper itself isn't worth the amount of gold that it's layered with, so why does a goldback cost twice the value of the gold that it contains?

>>57553180
It’s a novelty. There is no point in arguing that paying 300% more for PMs is somehow better than just buying bullion, it’s an art piece, a novelty.

>>57549984
>APMEXfag pays retarded premiums
Many such cases.

I think i just made a killing bros : 335€ for this filthy lot of junk, that's 22.90€/oz of FS, only 2 bux above spot!

>>57553040
>We're already seeing people use literal flakes/dust of gold in their purchases in some countries.
I’ve only ever seen 1 news article about that happening in Venezuela and it was sketchy at best. Probably some family or friends trading it amongst themselves.

Also saw a video about some 3rd world country where you could buy rotting food and other stuff from street vendors for grams of gold. Yippee?

But nothing in modern civilization.

Also I’m not anti-PM I’m just playing devils advocate here.

Should I buy 1oz of palladium for $1000?

>>57553347
…y-yeah you sure made a killing fren.

Do you have somewhere to sleep tonight?

>>57553376
No, because palladium is a platinum group metal. Just stick to gold silver and platinum. Palladium is too similar to platinum to care much about.

>>57553397
even platinum is a meme imho

>>57553380
A fren invited me to his place tonight, to celebrate the birth of his last one, so that wont be a problem.. for another night.
Can't wait to tell him about the great deal i got today. I might buy a good whiskey for the occasion.
brb, need to take a shower.

>>57548914
seriously recommending someone scratch their coin with steel wool? you should be banished from pmg forever

>>57553180
>why does a goldback cost twice the value of the gold that it contains?
Form factor. Same reason fractional coins have a significant premium on larger sizes. The difference with goldbacks is that premium is actually accounted for in the exchange rate, as opposed to fractional coins, where you just eat it.

New scrumptious buys await me anons
I will own all the aliens

>I'm buying all their alpha strikes within the first 5 minutes and you cant fucking stop me

>>57553362
Because in most of the world it isn't needed - yet. The remonetization of PMs comes with the collapse of the USD. The USD has a tremendous amount of global momentum and as bad as it is, every other currency in the world is just as bad or worse. There is no question that all trends are towards a collapse of the USD. The relevant questions are when and what will replace it? Nobody knows when, but many stackers are betting that in a post-dollar environment when most of the world has fiat-burned fingers, it will be PMs or a PM-backed currency.

>>57553408
The big question mark for platinum is in fuel cell tech. It has too many uses to become worthless, but to really explode it needs something like catcon levels of demand. And that will depend on hydrogen becoming a major player in fueling electric vehicles. It is lagging in the market, but as long as Toyota is a believer, so am I.

>>57549961
What makes you think the 1.5k gold?

>>57549961
If this happens I will slurp harder than IQDELET when he finds a used condom on the beach.

>>57553537
No such pressure exists to push gold that low. Profound optimism out of nowhere? resolution of geopliitical issues spontaneously across the world? Economic woes of the US solved? lol lmao even

>>57548883
yeah this year is all about krugs for me too
can't go wrong with krugs

>>57553552
That being said. I will switch to hold and finish of my set of maples and krugs.
>Silver at $15
Hnnnnng

>>57553552
That's what I'm thinking too, hard to imagine people not swarming gold if it drops below 1.95k

>>57553565
$15 with $6+ premiums of course

>>57553462
>The difference with goldbacks is that premium is actually accounted for in the exchange rate
Exchange rate between what?

>>57553604
It won’t come out of the ground at a certain price point. Whereas it costs gold like $1200-$1400 out of the ground right? massive premiums if you consider it like that

Is china strong/motivated enough to them peg silver at $25 and suck it all up? would be a reverse of what FDR did. Our politicians know absolutely no history because they are just idealogically possessed tyrants. I’m willing to bet other world leaders are smarter and more capable.

>>57553551
>I will slurp harder than IQDELET
Christ, here we go with the D&C shill shit.
I think it would literally kill you to not bring up fake personas based on random IDs here.

>>57553552
The US economy is stronger now than it has been in a long time. Somehow Biden actually saved America from a full blown recession.

>>57553755
I’ve said before that average dwelling cost + higher food prices without the raise in pay has absolutely hit the US citizens excess spending budget, it’s a consumer economy regardless of what they say, it’s going to cause a recession. AKA unemployment

>>57553713
Chris is King, faggot. Get filtered.

>>57553848
who the fuck is Chris?

>>57553040
Goldbacks are based!

>>57553848
just stop pushing your weird in-fighting worldview here bud

Will be slurping gold twice in the next few weeks. Adding 11 more LMU 20 francs to the stack

>>57552585
>>57552615
nooo...

silver is gay now....

You guys see the deal on SGB for 10oz bar? At spot-ish.

>>57553861
Chris Chan.
Kind of weird idolizing the guy, but you know...4chan.

>>57547234
Devote, not devout

bought my first silver today.
>>57553922
why is a person that has decreased its value hold an item that increases its value?

>>57554443
There's a cheaper sale at GSM. Not really "spot-ish" but a 5.25% premium for qty. 1 and free shipping isn't bad at all.

TGIF, coinfrens. My twin towers round came todoay.

>>57554566
ESL? At any rate, welcome to the family, silver sister.

>>57552585
>>57552615

Did you buy this before or after you purchased a solid silver butt plug?

>>57544581

Ignore the haters bro. It's cool to have some of those.

>>57553552
>>57553537
>>57549961

I can see gold crashing back to 1.6k and silver back to $15 if chinese real estate collapses and it has a ripple effect. Causing job losses etc. That would cause metals and Oil to crash. Otherwise, I don't see how spot price isn't much higher, billions of pajeets and asians hoard gold and buy it for marriage ceremonies etc

>>57554707
Maybe cool to own them but otherwise useless. Might as well buy physical.

>>57554752

Correct.

>>57553755
lol, people are just running up credit cards dude, not to mention defaulting on car loans etc.

>>57554443
>>57554590
Try this...
bullionexchanges.com/silver-at-spot

>>57554443
>picrel
add "my dad can beat up your dad"

>>57554673
shhh
its my secret stash

>>57544559
Bros, new kilo bar. First one released by Johnson Matthey in 25 years

>>57554869
fuck i need more fiat, just had a car repair and a baby. out $6 grand from my 6 month expense savings.
>>57555160
premium too high

good news, silver sisters
poorfags in egypt are buying our metal now because gold is too expensive

kek, imagine being a basedboi plebbitor, getting interested in coin collecting and silver, seeing how excited and happy it makes other people, then finally making your first order and eagerly waiting for the mail to arrive, only to open it and feel.. nothing.

>>57555525
That is why art on coins are so important. The collectable premiums adds emotional weight on top of the already heavy ounces.

>>57555525
if you can't feel the power and magic of silver when holding it in your hands, you probably shouldn't be stacking. it's true

>>57555260
It's happening. Everyone is going to start running to gold and silver. The fiat masters are working overtime 24/7/365 to keep the price suppressed. They can't hold it back for much longer in the real world.
Logical predictions: WAGMI frens!

>>57548096
>17 pbtid
silver fud putting forth a lot of effort ITT

>>57555679
V is for Victory!
Never forget

>>57555260
And this is precisely why you diversify with stacking silver. Demand will increase if gold gets above 2500 as an alternative

>>57555710
Someone was commenting recently about how $2k is the new resistance/ floor for gold spot.
That's got to count for something, a strong indicator?

>>57547920
the message is to make the fags saying "PMs aren't manipulated" shut up

>>57555160
nice kilo bar

>>57555756
>new floor is the old ATH
>That's got to count for something, a strong indicator?
does a fat baby fart?

so is silver ever going to moon or did I just lose purchasing power with this monster box that I bought years ago?

like come on man

>>57556086
if you really bought it years ago you should be in the green, dummy. but cool story

>>57556086
Yeah..hate to break it to you but everyone on here jerking off silver is most likely trolling you or were trolled into it and dont want to admit it,curious what price did you buy a monster box at?

>>57553462
Based Shield and Goldback appreciator

>complaining about small amounts of money you spent years ago

>>57556137
Any who bought silver in the last 10 years is down 80% at least

>>57555710
>diversify your losses

Kektop, you retards come up with new coping mechanisms on the daily

>>57556263
do you have anything else to share since nvda?

>>57556086
>"so is money going to moon?"
You need to think about this differently.

>>57556192
Silver IS money

Anyone talking about a moon mission is actually talking about selling their PMs for a wheelbarrow full of paper in the future, and it's retarded.

Eventually we'll be able to use PMs for everything. They're already legal tender in many states.

>>57556283
Yes fren but this isn't nice, they made a whole thread just to mock you guys and not make the same dumb mistakes yall make . Lmao they are trying to be good investors and not loose all their money like idiots, they are lumping you in with GME and bbby bagholders. Kektop...... anyway thanks for reposting over and over how I keep making money while you lose money

Regards
>>57546101
>it's a cult. this is why we still have gme, amc, bbby, xrp, pmg stocks on this board daily with the same fags posting the same shit everyday

>>57556420
midstream divideds start next week. i'll make sure to post pictures so you can continue to track my progress

>>57556443
Don't post winning trades here FREN it will make the silver scam victims feel bad like if they knew that Bitcoin is up over 100 ounces of silver yet again today (that Uber useful rock we are all going to use in muh collapse) they might self harm so I wouldn't post that information

Top producers push for silver’s inclusion as a critical mineral in Canada and US
Bruno Venditti | January 31, 2024 | 7:40 am Intelligence Canada USA Silver
https://www.mining.com/top-producers-push-for-silvers-inclusion-as-a-critical-mineral-in-canada-and-the-u-s/

Top producers of silver are pushing for the inclusion of the metal on the list of critical minerals in Canada and the US.

In a letter sent on Wednesday to the Canadian Minister of Energy and Natural Resources, Jonathan Wilkinson, the CEOs of 19 miners, including top producers Coeur Mining, Hecla Mining, and First Majestic Silver, say that considering silver a critical mineral would position the country to be a supplier of choice for strategic allies.

In December 2023, Natural Resources Canada opened a public commentary period for proposed updates to Canada’s Critical Minerals list and methodology. One of the criteria used is that the mineral must be necessary for the national transition into a “low carbon and digital economy”.

“Silver is identified as the best electrical conductor, the best metallic thermal conductor, and the best reflective material. These qualities make silver an essential and irreplaceable component for many industrial and technological applications,” the letter reads.

The demand for technologies such as solar power has led to increasing industrial demand for silver.

In 2023, global silver demand was estimated to be 1,167 million ounces (Moz), of which 576.4Moz (50%) was industrial use. Photovoltaics demanded 161.1 Moz in 2023, or 14% of the global silver demand.

Silver is also a common component of nuclear reactors. In the letter, the miners argue that with Canada joining other countries at COP28 to commit to tripling nuclear energy capacity by 2050, the demand for silver in nuclear is also likely to increase.

>>57556612
In the letter, the mining CEOs say that a misconception about silver availability is the main reason why the metal has been excluded as a critical mineral.

“Researchers from around the globe have raised the alarm that silver is a potential bottleneck in the transition to a low-carbon economy due to supply limitations, disruptions to supply chain, competition for other uses, and increased demand,”

“Unfortunately, the reputation of silver as a readily available, budget-friendly precious metal has led to misconceptions that have to date blocked policy alignment with academic consensus.”

A new list of critical minerals for Canada is expected to be published before summer 2024.

According to Jillian Lennartz, director, ESG for First Majestic Silver, written questions about the methodology adopted by the US Geological Survey have also been submitted to a House of Representatives subcommittee expressing concerns about the USGS’s methodology for its critical minerals list and offering suggestions for improvement.

“We also had direct calls with the Department of Energy (DOE) about their most recent assessment and expressed our concern with silver’s omission. They admitted that based on their methodology silver was not quantitatively assessed, and requested we submit our concerns in writing for their review,” Lennartz told MINING.COM.

The National Mining Association and the Silver Institute also sent a letter to the DOE in October last year arguing that the amount of silver in proved or probable reserves does not meet the projected demand and that silver recycling is unlikely to provide a significant material stream.

Questioned about a possible inclusion of silver, a source at the USGS said that all minerals for the 2025 list are being evaluated based on formulas. The list and methodology are expected to be released in the federal register later this year.

>>57556562
Bitcoin is the same price it was at 3 years ago...fuck outta here

silver is literally required for everything
literally
everything

>>57555560
>>57555565
For me, it was inheriting pre-33 gold from my grandfather. Feeling all that history in my hand, and seeing how happy he was to pass on generational wealth to me is what awakened my need to stack.

>>57556813
Your grandfather was a based ultra chad. Pre 33 gold is the money of uber men and gods. Owning it is a sign of superior intellect.

>>57556835
that one's kewl

>>57556813
Cute pendant necklaces, anon!

>>57556877
Checked. Uber based and super cute trans girls love pre-33 gold too! Only a lady with finest of tastes can appreciate such stunning pieces of Americana in the form of concentrated wealth.

>>57556971
uh yeah, sure, stacking is great for the mentally ill. gives them something to focus on

>>57556971

Only if the penis is super feminine. Otherwise you have to go back.

>>57556813
Based....it's noble to give up 1,000,000 % gains holding a shiny rock that pays 0% interest, dividends rent etc just so you can get kektop gold on your incel forum

>>57544559
sum gold

>>57557000
Checked and I like your bowl, fren. Nice kook.
>tfw no 50g bar to show off

>>57557125
If I buy $100 in silver and pay $40 in premiums
then I sell the silver immediately for $100
I didn't lose 40% because the loss is calculated against the entire initial purchase price, not what I sold it for.

right?
If I pay a 40% premium and then lose that premium, I actually lost 29%, not 40.

It's simple failures at math such as this that make me think you're as stupid as the people you're mocking, or even stupider.

>>57556813
> generational wealth
> approximately enough money to cover a minor car repair
Those coins are super based indeed but I sure hope that I will be passing on more. I'm not there yet. Thanks for the motivation to keep stacking.

I got a Brittania with this weird shape, does this impact the value?

>>57557600
nah, bullion coins are good like that. nothin effects their value

>>57557600
You lost when you bought the coin not when you sell it,,,,,that's the way real investors think,,,,,but real investors don't buy garbage rocks

>>57557748
what you're describing is accrual method of accounting vs cash method. Both methods post a debit at the time of purchase, but accrual also posts a loss or gain.

Investors in general don't think or use accrual method of accounting, and most investors do indeed buy "garbage rocks."

Post your ugliest stack.

>>57557806
No I was describing investing....you pay $60 for $22 of silver you lose the $38 when you buy not when you sell.....of course you retards who buy silver brag about losing 100% because you will never sell and it gets thrown in the garbage by mommy when you rope

>>57557876
Literally any silver shitcoin because you will lose 80 to 100%

Finally got a perfect fit tube made for the mexican 1 peso! Made a square tube for quarters as well.

Have a great weekend, anons. wagmi.

>>57557748
The reason investors don't use accrual method of accounting is because they cannot know the profit or loss at the time of purchase.

The method is commonly used by businesses that can know the exact loss from the purchase of depreciable assets or the exact profit from future contracts. Even then the method isn't required in the US for businesses making less than $5mm in annual revenues, and generally isn't used by those businesses. Mostly because accrual requires heavy leverage in order to pay taxes and fund future production. It's not something anyone is likely to use if they're not a multimillion dollar business.

>>57557940
Yes, your method is illegal.

No tax authority in the west allows you to deduct unknown future losses at the time of purchase.

Beautiful piece of art...
For scale, the carbon cube is two inches on a side.

>>57557982
Yowza, what a shot! It really is. The shield is nice, too.. I'll be watching for new releases from this mint because this is on a new level.

>>57557940
The closest you can get to doing that is treating the silver as inventory and using the lower of purchase price or fair market value

but even then the IRS can make a fair argument that $60 is the fair market value of your $22 worth of silver because that's what you paid for it.

>>57558035
you aren't going to be able to get anywhere with iq

>>57557969
Lmao are you pretending these retards here who buy garbage rocks at huge premiums are running a business or doing accounting? They got scammed and literally throwing away their money they will never even calculate how much they lost because of the emotional pain

>>57558040
I'm not trying to get anywhere with him.
>>57558047
>Lmao are you pretending these retards here who buy garbage rocks at huge premiums are running a business or doing accounting?
I am.

and I'm explaining why your accounting would land a person in prison if they actually tried it.

>>57558040
Because I'm not dumb enough to fall for the silver scam....lmao everyone on this board who pontificates about anything when they all lost 80% on silver shitcoins....amazing lack of self awareness

>>57558047
As far as the IRS is concerned, everyone here is in business, and they're required to do accounting.

I doubt any of them aside from me are actually doing that accounting, but that's none of my business.

>>57558047
my aunt was a cpa who had her own small accounting business. when i was a kid i used to get to do bank reconciliation and such to earn a bit of extra money. fun times.

>>57558078
buddy, if you weren't full of shit you'd have stocks or crypto to post aside from the one nvda trade which just shows everyone how actually poor you are. you should probably be able to post balances like i do, right? oh, are you scared of glowniggers? lmao that's probably it

>>57558078
>I'm not dumb enough to fall for the silver scam
you have posted proof in the past that you did indeed "fall for the silver scam."

not surprising since you seem like a fairly stupid person.

>>57557982
>>57558013
it's cool but if im buying a silver sword, i want it big enough to hold like a real one

>>57558013
D'oh - should have included the shield!
Nice shot yourself, Anon.

>>57558057
Can a wagie in America who loses $400 on the silver scam write that off on his taxes (before or after he sells) and what tax form does he use for that Mr tax accounting expert?

>>57558079
>As far as the IRS is concerned, everyone here is in business

Kektop

>>57558087
Lmao you have been seething about me getting rich off Nvidia for months what's funny is that wasn't me I don't post trades

My 25oz of silver Chucks arrived earlier today. I now have:

60oz of silver
1oz gold coin
6 Double Sovereigns = 2.8248oz of gold

I'm pretty much just a Double Sovereign away from making it to Roman Tier.

>>57558109
The IRS treats losses on silver as capital losses from the sale of collectibles, the loss is realized at the time of sale, and would be reported on an 8949 or schedule C depending on tax environment of the individual.

>>57558141
>getting rich
>2k from 100%+ run
yeah, only 4x that in dividends this month. super duper jealous

>>57558143
Nice, you could have invested and made a profit but you choose dead money...good job grandma

>>57558079
Huh? You can certainly track your capital gains in accounting software but for a normal private individual you could also record your transactions in crayon on the wall and do your math with an abacus. Or just save your receipts and figure it out when it's time to file taxes.

>>57558109
the alternative to this
>>57558147
is if the owner is treating his investment as a business and using the lower of cost or FMV method to price inventory. Then the loss would still be reported on a schedule C but could be reported in the year following the purchase under COGS.

>>57558223
yep.
How many people here do you suppose do that?

>>57547269
>stocks
>crypto
>low iq posts
the shills do not sleep because of their crypto losses having caused a permanent state of seethe, otherwise they would not come to PMG to cope.

>>57558253
most people here aren't selling their PMs so there's nothing to report to the IRS about

>>57558235
Lmao none of these wagies who get scammed on silver are filing schedule c

>>57558283
>most people here aren't selling their PMs so there's nothing to report to the IRS about
exactly.

>>57558261
Lmao, Still mad you missed out on crypto? Lmao bitcoins up 5% today silver is up .1%

>>57558285
>Lmao none of these wagies who get scammed on silver are filing schedule c
I am.
I don't generally lose money on silver though. One of the requirements of using schedule C to deduct losses is that you have to actually make money most years.

>>57558283
Even if they sell they can't write them off on their taxes, even if they could these morons don't understand taxes

>>57558309
>Even if they sell they can't write them off on their taxes,
why not?
you keep saying this. It's true in some cases and false in others. I'm curious why you think they can't?

>>57558301
You make income scamming these retards on 386% premiums for frog rounds, congrats I can respect that

>>57558322
thanks. To my knowledge I've never sold coins to anyone here.

>>57558321
he's just a troll fren
best to ignore

>>57558253
Probably most people, excluding those who just have one or two silver coins for novelty. It's pretty easy when you buy online because vendors typically send a receipt to your email so even if you don't go out of your way to save it you still have a copy somewhere.

>>57558321
>It's true in some cases

99% of cases and these scam victims are not sophisticated....lmao they brag about paying 40% premiums and never selling

Kektop even have you ever seen anyone post anything intelligent other than me?

updated filter list

>>57558352
so you're saying they COULD write the loss off but aren't smart enough to do it?
that's an easier claim than saying they CAN'T do it.
>have you ever seen anyone post anything intelligent other than me?
I consider you one of the dumber people here, even if you're sometimes right.

>>57558344
Yeah true. I don't usually buy online so I've got boxes of receipts.

>>57558369
They can't and they won't they are dumb and incapable and the rules don't allow them a write off why is that so complicated for you because you may be a a situation they are not.

>>57558392
>the rules don't allow them a write off
yes, that's what I'm asking

why do you think they're not allowed to write it off?

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>>57558403
>>57558403
>>57558403
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>>57558403
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>>57558013
Thanks for the tip to include the shield.
Now I wish I had the kilo version - these scales don't match. OCD kicking in.

>>57558392
I suspect you're operating under the mistaken assumption that you need to itemize deductions to claim a capital loss.

I'm just curious what your reasoning is.

>>57558367
paste a text version

>>57547242
>Won't be much longer that you can buy real tangible assets like silver with a fake meme internet money like bitcoin.

You can and will always be able to trade metals for currencies, but you won't always be able to trade currencies for metals because every currency fails while metals remain...

>57558298
you fear the truth which is why you censor it.