/biz/ - Business & Finance

BUY VOO

>>57537501
no

>>57537501
What's a broad market ticker that's like $20 that I can buy 100 of

Alright, you've convinced me to go all in on the nvidia dip. Luckily it's only going up from here. See you later, poorfags

Y'all niggas finna get heemed

>>57537492
What are some good Vodka stocks

>>57537525
I have waited many a fortnight for this to prove true,
alas I feel myself getting older and the time slipping away...

>>57537523
I lost the game but you will lose all of your $6.46

>>57536617
it took almost 2 years from market bottom for real estate bottom.
people were much richer then. I expect it takes longer this time. but I could be wrong. maybe capital markets are more efficient this time.
>>57537319
he definitely did

>>57537525
Sheeeeeit, ong fr fr? The tax implications aint bussin no cap

>>57537520

I'm just gonna keep holding my PLTR

If on New Years Day you went all in on a simple, conservative portfolio of 100% NVDL, you'd be up over 80% right now.

two green IDs in a row and bought BABA at close, get on my level

>>57537529
Ddiageo owns smirnoff. If you believe in fratties continuing to be rich DEO is your choice.

>>57537571
>The tax implications aint bussin no cap
Easy solution... Just have a capital loss carryover

>>57537567
>maybe capital markets are more efficient this time
is that what we call expecting a bailout every time something goes even slightly wrong?

>>57537585
I don't know how much I'm up YTD because I have a really cheap broker that only shows total W/L and I'm too lazy to track shit myself and quite frankly don't give a shit.

>>57537574
same. im feeling good about it and i have been locked in lately

CAMECO
C
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Is reporting earnings before the bell bullish for
URANIUM?

>>57537655
The funniest possibility is they report bad production numbers/guidance, but that drives the spot price into the 110's, and the stock closes green.

>>57537525
huh

>>57537644
Well how are your trades doing this year? Winning more than losing? Wins bigger than losses?

This dogshit company ARM pumping on AI hype is an early sign of an AI bubble forming. Softbank will most likely exit scam in March and crash and burn it. Watch the Nasdaq closely in 2024. We're in for a dotcom bubble on steroids.
Just gotta know when to sell.

>paypal 58p
Im getting IV crushed tomorrow arent I

>>57537655
>>57537673
redpill me on uranium. whys it up 100% on the 1 year? what happened?

>>57537673
Antifragile
Taleb would be proud

>>57537691
Maybe not. I mean, SNAP got heemed last night and got heemed even more pre market. You could have the same thing happen here.

>>57537690
How the hell is anything they do connected to AI?

>>57537682
I'm in the green. I'm Kermit bitch.

>>57537698
True but they had good earnings and shit guidance.

SNAP just sucks

>>57537694
Long bear market caused production to completely die (except for Cameco in Canada and Kazatomprom in Kazakhstan). Utilities just coasted off reactors shutting down post-Fukushima, which dumped extra shiny rocks on the market.

We're now reaching crunch time where new production is still years from ramping up but spare/uncontracted pounds are nowhere to be seen. So if you're a utility restarting a reactor or running down your own inventories, well...

>>57537700
Nothing. He's lying to pump it and create exit liquidity for Softbank, which owns 90% of the shares and is in deep shit. They'll be allowed to sell next month.
It's now valued at over $100B with a revenue forecast for 2024 at $3B. Reminder that Nvidia was supposed to buy it for $40B.

>>57537734
nice. always liked commodities trading like uranium but it never seemed to do well. best way to buy in on the etf URA? or on an individual company?

Any good ER plays next week or this week?

Maybe PINS?

>>57537572
I will micturate in this thread and you cannot abide

>>57537760
Check cmmg, they have U infographics.
Cameco and Kazatomprom are two big players. I like swinging Energy Fuels. There's a few etfs, and Sprott Physical (U-UN.TO or SRUUF) is also physical backed and pays a divvy

>>57537785
thanks.

>>57537694
Also Putler & Russia geo politics and sheit.
+ the greens are starting to have a hard time
covering up the fact that URANIUM is the answer.
Even Gavin from California knows that sheit.

>>57537694

>>57537805
well greens were always retards.
>>57537811
based. love the ai memes for /smg/.

>>57537834
>>57537805
A lot of EU green groups were funded by American big oil lobbying groups

>>57537690
Does make you wonder what a stock's value really is. In the near term, it's obviously what people are willing to pay for it, but we all know that most people do zero research before they buy stocks. Maybe we're going to have another 1929 style crash, or maybe this time will be different. The economy seems to be chugging along just fine, unemployment is low, and inflation is going down. Maybe these meme AI companies will actually deliver huge productivity increases across the board, justifying the hype, or maybe AI is just a fad, and the stock market will come crashing down the moment enough people realize it.

>>57537834
Do you have any stock tickers you would like me to make an AI meme for? I ran out of creativity long ago and could use some fresh ideas

>>57537644
what ghetto broker is that?

This looks OMEGA BEARISH for McDonald's, their shit is already too expensive as it is.

I want to go back to when a dbl quarter pounder meal with super sized fries and drink was less than $4 bros...

>>57537760
UEC
E
C

Terra Power/ Bill Gates

>>57537644

>>57537870
I'm a retard, forgot the link;

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/burrito-big-mac-prices-in-california-to-go-up-as-pay-rises-someone-has-to-pay-fat-brands-founder-says/ar-BB1hUZ7g

>>57537840
Le' controlled opposition.

>>57537811
KING

HOW DID YOU FAGS LET US MISS HOLO???

>>57537762
You probably do business with some of these companies.

>>57537845
>meme AI companies
I'm only talking about the dogshit like ARM.
Nvidia pumps are justified because they halve their PER every time they report their massive earnings.

OK, who's ready for another round of "guess that ticker"?

Hint: It's in the natural resources sector.

>>57537857
How about this one?

>>57537857
>AI meme for
crwd or meta.
>>57537872
thx!

>>57537885
They are. Controlled opposition is the greatest asset since most people are retarded to the point of not being sapient. It’s the grease trap for reactionary NPCs

if you had 4k and no more to invest what would you invest in to turn that into 100k?

assume you can't just DCA because the realtor Jews are pinching your pennies.

what stocks would you go hard on?

>>57537880
Had some similar discussion about Taco Bell last thread: >>57537032

Frankly, they need to get fast food bots working and bring back the dollar menu. Then America will be great again.

>>57537926
Idk dude is that sigma lithium?

>>57537956
Nailed it. Comparing it to ALB, SQM, and other lithium plays it's clear there's a "woman CEO" penalty being applied. Very sexist!

>>57537905
Holo, the wolf? That's more of a /g/ waifu.

>>57537947
CAPT looks good if you want a gamble. ACIC is a little less crazy. MSS might squeeze. BRK.B is more conservative. EVA is another interesting gamble.
You could also wait a week and try to put it all in regional bank puts expiring in June.

>>57537947
in what timeframe? 4k to 100k is no small feat lol

Can anyone give me an ACTUAL revenue stream from "AI" or LLMs outside of replacing pajeet tier coders?
because it seems like the only real winner in this AI bubble is Nvda selling chips to other companies, who all seem to think AI is the answer to anything, but I don't see them making any money with this.

>>57537942
Fuck microsofts GPU servers are back at capacity so I can’t generate.

will ALB ever recover

>>57537990
RIP.

>>57537980
ai's are cheaper and better than pajeets. It certainly multiplies the impact of one person.
Scan my code tell me whats wrong with it. is still a bit much for the AI but it helps.

>>57537968
Whats funny is that last year I planned on investing in it. Thats the only reason I knew about Sigms. When I saw the file name I remembered Sigma and after checking its performance, I’m glad I forgot to invest in it. I’ll make a meme for it when microsoft’s GPU servers stop being overloaded

Corrupt Economy

>>57537990
Draw your own frogs

>>57538002
They're at intern levels of comprehension for programming which is pretty awesome all things considered. You can't run a company purely on interns of course but since there's practically no overhead for using it you effectively get free low quality labor.

>>57537980
consumer goods. appliances with AI, vehicles with AI, etc

there is plenty of market left to saturate

>>57537998
Will EVs ever need lithium again?

No, seriously, will they? Is there some meme battery tech that just got developed? I don't know the space.

>>57538020
>They're at intern levels of comprehension for programming
No they're not. They can write code for basic tasks but that's it.

>>57538009
For a while they were holding up relatively well compared to the boomerco's, likely due to that "green lithium" meme. Glad we both dodged that bullet though.

>>57538014
i wish I had more outlets for expression. I picked massage like an idiot.

>>57538028
sodium-ion? It's not that new. I don't understand their physics much, or why they're not more popular yet. Maybe you're right

>>57537954
Yeah, there should NO FUCKING REASON for a single hashbrown to cost $3, that's robbery

>everyone shittin on tupperware crying bankruptcy.
>tup pulls over a billion in revenue per year.
>near all time lows
>Schwab increased their position by 18% in the past 3 months.
You have been buying right anon? We are gassed up with no brakes.

>>57537980
Sex.
Robots.

>>57538061
>a single hashbrown to cost $3
You'd think LW would be rolling in it. But not so much.

>>57538058
Sodium Ion is comparable to Lithium except they have about half the energy

>>57538025
>appliances with AI
No one wants that. I'm sure it'll be forced on consumers but it's not a selling point
>vehicles with AI
The only LLMs that'll be used in vehicles will be some dystopian drunk driving moderator that shuts your car off and reports you to the police if it thinks your drank too much

I've yet to read a single use case for "AI". This is way more ridiculous than the internet bubble. The internet had clear use cases and a future. AI doesn't exist

>>57537980
AI consultations, AI consultants, AI cashires, AI customer support, AI Tim Hortons, AI operating systems, AI girlfriends, AI stock investors, AI politicians, AI lawyers, AI accountants, AI librarians, AI teachers assistants, AI guidance councilors, AI parents, AI therapists, AI film script writers, AI actors, AI film critics, AI risk assessors, AI insurance adjusters, AI bank examiners, AI air tragic control, AI moderators, AI posters, AI venture capitalists, AI executives, AI board members, AI NGOs, AI real estate speculators, AI database analysts, AI scrum masters (we already had this, it's the scroll wheel on your mouse), AI property managers, AI shift managers, AI police, AI judges, AI wardens etc.

>>57538042
That's about what interns can do at least in my experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njIK2QiRUfM
how come literally every single chart that correlates to 2000 and 2008 crashes is peaking right now? Could it really be different this time?

>>57538020
AI doesn’t have intern levels of comprehension. It doesn’t even have a child’s level of comprehension. LLMs are just really good at SOMEHOW doing things without actually having any insight. It’s not intuitive to us because we never had that type of entity before. Comprehension was always directly correlated with work output. LLMs are actually completely dumb and have no concept of what they are doing but produce adequate work in many scenarios. Its wild.

>>57537980
That's all you need.
>During a gold rush, sell shovels

>>57538085
>(we already had this, it's the scroll wheel on your mouse)
kek

>>57538095
yeah you're right, that's a better way to put it.
In practice it's about as capable as the average intern is what I meant to say.

>>57538051
So you're a massage therapist?
Learn to write erotic massage literature and sell ebooks on Amazon. Write what you know.

>>57537885
>>57537945
Besides that, it allows the energy groups here to sell oil and gas to the EU at a disgusting premium
Why bet against the US?

i cant believe it, that guy forgot to mention ai dashcams

>>57538083
it doesnt matter, in 10 years when you go to buy a new kitchen set it will come with some shitty AI that you will be forced to accept

>>57537595
I'll check it out thanks

The play is puts on ARM for March yes?

Thoughts on SOUN? Seen a ton of drive throughs moving to the AI ordering

.SPX to 5000 tomorrow

>>57538112
Yeah LLMs will save us from a lot of tedious busywork, but all outputs will need to be reviewed because they will literally just make things up and lie (hallucinate)

This bull market will end in tears, it's the same story every single time

>>57537492
if you had to achieve 12% annual returns from now until the rest of your life, how would you do it? stocks only real estate, crypto, bonds, or any other form of investment not allowed.

>>57538125
women should be required to dress like this.

>>57538149
Invest in quality companies at good prices.

>>57538149
>bonds,
What if you're using them for hedging/arbitrage?

>>57538155
Agreed

>>57538165
just for sake of discussion i guess bonds can be included since they are similar to stocks. no real estate or crypto allowed.

>>57538156
what is a good price < 15 pe?

So I know you can buy index funds like SPY and QQQ... and I know there are leveraged index funds like QRD for 2x and TQQQ for 3x that go up or down a multiple of the underlying's price change
But are there any 1/2 leverage funds?
Like, if QQQ goes up 1% in a day, is there something I can buy to only go up 0.5%?

Chyna

>>57537990
>>57538009
Sir,
>>>/pol/457903907

>>57538140
I bought 30 shares of it. It has some potential from all the partnerships it's been doing with big names.

>>57538185
>Like, if QQQ goes up 1% in a day, is there something I can buy to only go up 0.5%?
prob mutual funds. they usually are even more hedged. but why would you want a qqq that does half? just take an opposite position on a hedge.

What’s happening with GME threads

>>57538185
You can just set aside 50% of your position in cash. $10k split into $5k cash and $5k SPY is identical to $10k in a hypothetical 0.5x leverage fund.

>all these indians seething about AI
sorry poos, LLM + one white guy replaces all of you. h1b1 was just denied.

>>57538174
>what is a good price < 15 pe?
A good price is one below where the future market auctions will price it.

>>57538199
jonestown mass suicide

>>57538192
Right it keeps having great news and decent earnings and selling further and further off. Probably gonna grab another 100 shares soon. Feel like it's bound to get some attention soon

>>57538208
unfortunately call centers and fast food still need warm bodies at minimum wage

>>57537492
LULULEMON
LULULEMON
LULULEMON
LULULEMON

>>57538236
LLMs replace call centers.

>>57538204
Yeah the thing is I don't want to have cash though. I'll end up losing it

>>57538174
>what is a good price < 15 pe?
it just ain't that simple anon, if it were, everyone would be beating the market constantly instead of only like 10% of people doing it. You need more knowledge and connections than the market average to make good trades. If you're making good trades without that, it's pure luck.

>>57538216
i like GARP investing. the market is so overbought right now it is hard to find any known companies. i think there are probably some good small cap / mid cap that would be good.

HUBG is one. one thing i have found is trucking companies print money. small cap value has underperformed for some time. look at tweedy browne small cap value investing firm and since the 90s their annualized returns are 9% losing to the S&P. now if you can find a small cap that has exceptional growth well it is a 100x.

im literally a retard when it comes to trading and i still make money, if i actually took the time to learn what im doing i could do some real damage

>>57538255
Buy stock, line go up, simple as.

>>57538190
I don’t use /pol/. Too hot. That will get my account flagged. You do know that the image outputs are cryptographically signed and can be linked back to your account by Microsoft right? I’ll make racist memes when local models catch up to DALLE3 performance. Even then I still won’t go to /pol/ because I’m not a cringe little self hating brown kid like the average poltard. I’m only on 4chan to discuss stocks.

>>57538259
Sometimes line go down though. Not during bull runs like this though, it really inflates some really incompetent trader's egos and it really stings them when the correction comes at the least expected time and wipes out 80% of their portfolio.

>>57537880
Yeah fine though the thing is I stopped going to fast food places entirely because of the price jumps. They are now charging as much and more as a sit in diner at a lower quality of product. I think the prices are unsustainable for this model of restaurant. The whole entire point of drive through slop was cheap and fast. You take that away what is your selling feature?

>>57538250
right but right now look at the pe ratios of nearly any "good" company or good growth stock. we are at an average of 30 pe. i don't think you can GARP invest with averaging in consistently over many years or just sitting on cash waiting for huge market corrections.

now you can find value stocks for sure but most of them won't match the same growth that sbux, apple, tesla, nvidia, costco what have you. but when can you get any of them stocks for less than 10 pe?

>>57538291
>what is your selling feature?
Just addiction.

>>57538296
>now you can find value stocks for sure but most of them won't match the same growth that sbux, apple, tesla, nvidia, costco what have you.
Growth could start to stagnate any day. High rates have been unexpectedly great for tech R&D specifically but tax changes last year are hitting those hard soon which the market hasn't priced in yet, and on the other side rate cuts which were as always priced in too hard will make things drop too when they finally cut at some point this year; probably long after march maybe later than June even, but they're coming... Things could spend the next 6 months irrationally pumping for no reason of course but smart money is exiting so there will be an at least small dump soon of I'd guess 5-10% which smart money will then buy back in to.

>>57538291
convenience, when i worked construction basically everybody lived on breakfast wraps and coffee. price doesnt matter when its 4am and your driving to work on an empty stomach

>BoJ's Uchida: Real Interest Rate Is In Deep Negative Territory, Monetary Conditions Are Very Accommodative
- We Don't Expect This To Change In A Big Way
- Certainty For Achieving Price Target Is Rising Gradually
- Hard To Imagine A Path Of Continuous Rate Hikes
- Japan’s Economic Recovery Expected To Continue, Positive Wage-Inflation Cycle Seen Strengthening

Holy fuck Japan, just fuckin die. No wonder their demographic is dying. Zero balls

>>57538291
I wouldn't be as upset over the fast food price hikes if the quality of the product went up with it. As it stands now MCD's lunch quality has taken a massive shat so where's my incentive to fork out the money for it when I can go elsewhere and get a quick bite cheaper. (Ex: Tacobell - Slackers $2.19 per. Decent sized item. Or Little Ceasers Lunch combo $6.35)

>>57538108
>>57538085
>>57538083
>>57538068
>>57538025
so basically this is crypto bubble all over again, just replace the word "block-chain based" to "AI based" because no one has an actual revenue generating use case that isn't replacing some already cheap pajeet intern coders with chat GPT.
And the majority of this massive bull run we've been on has been due to the belief that these LLMs will somehow improve enough to have an actual use case.

>>57538266
Anon, I ...
I've had about 7 Bing accounts banned. They don't ban you for making frogs

>>57538337
It's happening in March.

>>57538370
I strongly doubt March will see rate cuts, housing prices are up well over 1% just in January. Real inflation is still out of control, if they cut in March it's because they've taken bad data to heart and we're all fucked soon.

>>57538375
There will be no other option.

>>57538384
>There will be no other option.
lol, why?

>>57538369
Yeah, which is why I’m not banned. I keep it clean. Pepe frog man himself isn’t a bannable offense. I watch myself. Everything you do online can be traced back to you. I’m not going to use Microsoft’s servers for anything controversial.

>>57538185
Yes, check etfdb

>>57538242
>I'll end up losing it
Anon, I don't mean literal cash under the mattress. Just buy a money market fund. Your broker should have something paying 5+% or whatever.

>>57538394
There seems to be only one at a fraction of leverage, and it's a short VIX ETF.
>>57538414
Yeah I'll still lose it...

>>57538237
That's doing fuck all and is a month away from reporting earnings. What are you getting at?

I bet smart money gets snap to double by April with how oversold it is

>Delinquency rates on credit cards and auto loans spiked to their highest since the Great Recession, per Reuters

Ruh roh raggy

>>57538422
>Yeah I'll still lose it...
Unfuck that retarded self-esteem of yours, Zoomer. This is financial advice.

>>57538438
Did you see the CEO on CNBC this morning?

>>57538384
I think there's options beside let hyperinflation destroy the economy. Higher for longer just means some dog shit regional banks go under, much less deleterious overall.

>>57538446
>The media always lies...
>...except when it is a thrilling doomer headline, then those Jews are forthright and honest!
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DRCCLACBS

Guys, i hate to say it, and this partially out of self disgust for selling too early, but I do honestly think this is an unsustainable bubble at this point
NVIDA will be 2 trillion dollars? get real
Might be a good time to short ROBLOX
maybe a year or so early yet

>>57538362
>so basically this is crypto bubble all over again
It's even less useful than crypto. LLMs will mostly be used for spam/crime/smg bear images
>due to the belief that these LLMs will somehow improve enough to have an actual use case
Correct, the entire narrative is that LLMs will advance into AGI and get integrated everywhere. No one has a use case the current generation of LLMs. There is no evidence that breakthrough advancements are near. Megacap tech companies created the AI narrative after the March banking crisis to keep the money flowing

What is biz/ opinion on covered call ETFs like QYLG, NUSI, JEPI, and DIVO? I have some in my Roth IRA to generate some money and use that money to invest in QLD and SPUU

>>57538476
Yeah, 100%. But you can make plenty of money on the way up and the way down for these things.

>>57538472
>2023-07-01
Good try mumu

>>57538456
I'm a millennial

>>57538472
Credit rates were much lower back then compared to 2024 anon...

>>57538487
They're generally underperforming, actively managed funds. Overlay JEPI on SPY or JEPQ on QQQ or TSLY over TSLA since inception. You'll see you lose at least a few % a year (yes, even after adjusting for payouts) because the funds trade away upside.

>>57538509
The evidence he presented is from Q3 2023

>>57538460
No, was it a disaster? He needs to get Kalanick’d

>>57538242
I'll gladly hold onto it for you
>>57538266
>>57538144
>because they will literally just make things up and lie (hallucinate)
Don't we all do that sometimes anon?
>>57538266
>I don’t use /pol/. Too hot.
Good. pools closed anyway.
>You do know that the image outputs are cryptographically signed and can be linked back to your account by Microsoft right?
One glowie division sending data to another affiliated glowie division. Big deal.
>I’ll make racist memes when local models catch up to DALLE3 performance
Based
>Even then I still won’t go to /pol/
Not based
>I’m only on 4chan to discuss stocks.
I like to bobo post whether the market is up or down. Doesn't matter.

>>57538503
Then you should be grown enough not to touch a pile of cash you've set aside.

>>57538495
>>57538509
My God, at this rate we'd maybe have to mark down F and V stock in 2025! https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/new-york-fed-sees-signs-trouble-auto-borrowing-overall-debt-level-rises-2024-02-06/

Come on, guys.

>>57537501
I already did 8 years ago, what's next?

>>57538285
>and wipes out 80% of their portfolio.
I hope that happens at some point. I will slurp their tears along with the cheapies

>>57537909
>pinterest and cloudflare

one of them will pump like crazy

>>57538558
Oh wait, I just remembered, the Fed's going to slash rates at least a percent this year so those people will all just refi.

Maybe roll the puts out to 2026.

>>57538558
Worrying, but won't it take a much higher delinquency rate than what sunk '08 since banks are far better hedged against that shit happening again due to heavy handed government regulation spawned exactly because of '08?

>>57538149
A decent mutual fund.

>>57538510
what if you risk adjust JEPI and SPY

>>57537840
lol. they were funded by russians claiming they were americans.

>>57538558
>Then you should be grown enough not to touch a pile of cash you've set aside.
It doesn't matter if I touch it or not... it will still be lost...

>>57538576
Trump and republicans got rid of those pesky things like 7 years ago at this point anon. There are no more regulations today than there was in 2004. Don't worry, I'm sure everyone involved got held accountable so this won't ever happen again.

>>57538576
Yes. And, again, you might catch on to the Jewish trick of "08 financial crisis" + "loan delinquencies!". OK, journo, you're conflating those two. But the big problem back then was mortgages.

Are *mortgages* going delinquent and about to cause trouble?

>>57538510
>They're generally underperforming
>because the funds trade away upside
And there has been plenty of upside in this market

>>57538600
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DRSFRMACBS

Oh, huh. Guess it's potheads taking out microloans for pizza and commercial real estate bags that'll be a problem. As the entire market has digested for the past year.

>>57538583
I'm not your quant and portfoliovisualizer is right there: >>57537492

>>57538581
i dont think there is a mutual fund that has done that good over a lifetime? 12.5% is my goal i know a lot of good investors were able to get over 20% throughout their lifetime.

>>57538621
then how can you say they underperform SPY tho

>>57538597
>>57538614
Well, whatever happens happens. At this point I just buy ~$700-$800 worth of ETFs per week. If the line goes down I get more for the money, if the line go up my current holdings enjoy it. Don't care too much either way.

>>57538632
Because you're not levering up your JEPI or changing behavior based on a 0.05% variation in some daily drawdown.

>>57538296
Not quite that bad, but enough to be a bit leery.

ENLV, i am in at best price.
you can still get in at ok price
ok...

>>57538652
maybe I am, that was a different anon

$100k in a tax free account, what do I buy? I'll add $10k yearly.

>>57538665
No you're not. You know how I know? Because you're getting into pointless arguments about gimmick ETFs on an Indonesian Tin Smuggler forum.

>>57538669
There's a sleeper hit microcap that sells artificial intelligence "picks and shovels". Goes by the ticker NVDA.

>>57538659
What's the pe look like market weighted though
S&P has a lot of dead weight

>>57538627
No there isn't really. What you're buying is not just a portfolio of stocks chosen according to a theme, but the expertise of the fund manager. Who die or retire, eventually. That said, you ought to be able to double your money every five-six years.

Protip: If you wanted to take all the guesswork out of it, you could invest in any of several funds that mimic the performance of the S&P 500.

>>57538669
Average in to a mutual fund (he said again).

>>57538685
I honestly have no idea.

Kek so DIS is teaming up and buying a stake in Epic games so they can do the wide open concept gaming thing. Question becomes; Hmm who's already done it and has done such a thing for decades now, why WBD and Square-Enix thats who. Also how is Dis gonna pay for it all? They've hiked their puny divvy 50% (still puny though), gotta still fork out money to Comcast over the Hulu thing,etc. Where's the cash gonna come from. You cannot keep hiking prices at the parks forever. Sooner or later the sheep will flee. (course Comcast will benefit from that so hey works for me). The kicker; WBD is redoing Harry Potter. Will it flop? Will it aid in kicking the stock price higher as the original films did back in 2001-2010? Who knows. But considering the last game they did based on HP put out solid profits I wouldn't be shocked if by the end of the series (7 seasons) today's price will be seen as bargain basement. Now if the bean counters, activist investors,etc all just stay away from WBD and let it work things would be sweet.

Has anyone said
NATGAS AND OIL
yet, or is this thread all just FAGGOTS so far?

>>57538353
so those faggots will just keep it at a negative rate?

>>57538720
The market FaG index is currently at 75.

>>57538737
>market is 75% fag
Yep

>>57538688
my goal is to beat the S&P 500 by 2.5% per year over the course of my lifetime. can't do that by buying ETFs or mutual funds. i think the mark is inefficient enough that is very possible.

however, i do think you have to be adaptable enough to deploy some different types of strategies at different times.

>>57538747
>i think the mark is inefficient enough that is very possible.
its easy if you stock pick. i was up 40% last year while sp was only like 20%.

>>57538714
>WBD is redoing Harry Potter
Honestly retarded to do. Has a higher chance of hindering rather than helping the IP. Shit is still popular as hell, there's no need for this. However, universal studios is opening three new segments to one of their parks, which includes Harry Potter shit next year.

>>57538714
Gonna ruin the game. They already are adding fuckin gay skins. Those stupid shitbirds. Just died to one. They are slimmer and look weird and it makes it fuckin hard to aim at them.

It's not the same as a humanoid.
This makes it 1/2 pay to win. Also some weird reflecting skins and whatnot. With Disney it's probably going to get worse.

https://youtu.be/kz8IUSsvwiA?si=zWPXB7p-CktVXLCY

My TQQQ gains aren't enough, gonna FOMO into FNGU on the next dip.

>>57538714
>redoing Harry Potter
What? Oh god, this will be with transpeople. You can bet on that.

> first time coming to /biz/ in a few hours
> captcha has a 300 fucking second timeout before I can even have a first attemp
what the frick

>>57538783
Anon, please, the correct term is "trannies".

>>57538777
And how do you headshot this piece of shit skin? The hitbox will probably be the same as regular skin, still you intuitively aim at what you can see.

>>57538755
so was the nasdaq

How can I buy something that follows spot price of nat gas but non leveraged

>hot chinkette with an Ausie accent
I have never had a waifu before.

>>57537492
I have 100k sitting in a HYSA but I feel like I should dump it into VIX entirely
what say you

>>57538793
WAIT
HOL
UP
is that adam's apple I see?

I feel retarded. I just realized after I generated these pics that the normal symbolism of Bag Holding doesn’t work for MCD.

>>57538795
check the VXX chart, guaranteed win

>>57538829
le sigh someone give me another ticker to make memes for

I am DOWN 10% ytd

>>57538838
MOGLF

>>57538847
You'll make it back nigga. Niggas get shot every day b. You'll be aight nigga. You tough right?

>>57538795
>dump it into VIX entirely

100k? more like 100.

>>57538757
>>57538783
>>57538785
Now as a film/show fan I've got mixed feelings on this. Nothing can top the original films. Sure the new series may end up surprising me in a good way (keeping more of the books content) but it also could be a big let down in terms of casting,etc. As an investor though it's different; I want it to draw in as many sheep as it can. The more sheep, the more profit, which translates into a higher stock price for the company.

Is the Anon who made that 'Samantha' ChatGPT prompt still in here?

>>57538897
Never watched the originals. Only the first 1-2 movies I think in cinema when I was..12-13? And even back then it wasn't my thing. I prefered Warcraft.

>>57538906
>>57538897
aka Harry Potter sucks

>>57538785
Their pronouns are was/were

>>57538859
le sigh microsoft ran out of GPU capacity again. I was able to run it twice but got errors, which they never explain what tripped the censor filter. My theory for this one is that the results might be considered racist towards asians. God I wish I could see the output it made, but thats hidden forever

>>57538795
>>57538890
I once dumped 20k into 30 day VIX calls and they actually printed HARD when Nancy pelosi took a surprise flight to Taiwan. Was up $30k and then as soon as it was known that her plane was safe the profit disappeared and I was too green around the gills to take the profit when I had sufficient chance to. I need to get back into making some big dick moves like that again

>>57538920
I usually get a popup immediately that says we can't process your request because you are requesting banned prompts or some shit like that. It's sad how cucked it is

Anyone catch any part of that HOLO fucking MOASS today?

3,000% lol. Wasn't even on my penny stock radar to baghold.

Wondering if it's gonna have any ripple effect on shorties needing to close out to cover their margins there.

dude

seriously?

this isn't funny, ya know...

>>57538941
Jews will probably reverse it again

Still crazy how they nuked Oil last week on some stupid ceasefire news. It was obvious this won't happen. Just a nice opportunity to bring in volatility

>>57538957
>they nuked Oil
Was the oil inventory data incredibly bearish for demand?

>Princess Xenia

It´s been a while since bought a playboy. Still have the same brazilian magazines from back when the 2nd gulf war started.

>>57538964
Don't know but Oil dropped 2$ on the news. Absolutely causal. It happened right then when the rumor spread.

>>57538938
So that error message is the very bad one. Get more than a few of those in a row and you go under moderator review. I haven’t gotten one of those in months. That means you tripped the first filter, the hard dictionary check. You used an outright no no word like “rape”, “gore”, “kike”, or “George Washington”. The second filter is when your prompt is run through chatgpt for semantic check. This will catch most obvious attempts to circumvent the first filter. After this the prompt is processed by dalle3 to generate your images. A final check is done by having chatgpt interpret the images and then it decides whether the results are too offensive, violent, or pornographic. Failing the final filter is the dog error, and thats the only error I’ve gotten in a long time.

>>57537492
>The yield curve has already inverted.

>>57538957
>bring in volatility
*slurp
which I did

>>57538988
I’m waiting for the crash

>>57538982
It went right back up within minutes of the Al Jazera tweet getting deleted.

>>57538897
>I want it to draw in as many sheep as it can
It didn't work for Disney with their Star Wars IP though. Honestly, their best bet is to make another videogame.

>>57538983
>You used an outright no no word
One off the top of my head that got flagged was "pepe smugly laughing while federal reserve building burns in the background". Not actually typing curse words, but rather suggestive content. I didn't know my account could go under review for it. I have only been playing with it the past 2 days though and mostly make trading related pepes

>>57539009
That's right. But was it so fast corrected? I thought it came in later as it went up and then down again. Not trading oil currently, just watching it besides indices.

But you are right, I just looked up the initial post and on the same day it was revised. These fakenews are such bullshit

>>57539009
Well, I should say briefly back up, then back down yet again, it was a wild bit of swinging in a short bit of time.

>>57538988
hasn't it been inverted for over a year? or did something new happen?

>>57539014
Pretty sure “federal reserve” like all government buildings is banned. You could have failed the semantic filter by including it with negative and violent words, you would have to check by running a prompt with federal reserve and only positive happy words to see if that goes through. Regardless, chatgpt and microsoft make it very hard to make anything that could possibly incite violence.

>>57539028
>Not trading oil currently
FAGGOT
but yep, >>57539029

I just found a marine shipping company etf (ticker: BOAT) and it's up almost 4% YTD. Are shipping routes shutting down bullish for shipping companies?

My port went from 18k to 33k to 22k

>>57539043
you will learn why you should not to get into shipping. Invest in Cannabis

NVDA Chads keep winning.

>>57539043

>>57538791
That's just trading /NG futures. But, you know, there's things like contract roll (aka dealing with contango and backwardation) and margin requirements to that. And your broker would probably need to approve you for it.

Getting a step simpler, there's UNG which is an ETF that deals with next month futures contracts: https://www.uscfinvestments.com/ung

And UNL which deals with a spread of contracts over the next 12 months: https://www.uscfinvestments.com/unl

Meanwhile FCG gives you exposure to nat gas companies (or you can sort through its holdings and choose some companies you think track spot well): https://www.ftportfolios.com/retail/etf/ETFholdings.aspx?Ticker=FCG

Lastly, as a disclaimer, trading nat gas is a very very very very very bad idea for you if you're asking this question. You *are* going to lose money.

>>57539043
Artists never remember Tokitsukaze and it makes me sad

I did a debit spread on snapchat and smashed it with my prediction, but now my spread is worth 0.00 and I can't get my collateral freed. Do I really have to wait till expiration or can I do something else like buy my own spread for 1$ a contract? Shit seems broken.

>>57539043
Yes, but you've missed the bulk of the move. If you want to get autistic about BOAT, dive into its holdings and notice there's different dynamics for container ships, clean tankers, dirty tankers, dry bulk carriers, Chinese vs. western companies, cyclicality, shipyard orderbooks, it's a massive rabbithole.

>>57538791
>non leveraged

>>57539105
Your broker doesn't have an unwind operation for multi legged options??

>>57539085
>choose some companies you think track spot well
I've never looked for this, have you spotted anything? I've only seen some correlations with OIL in some.

>>57539080
>>57539038
Can I get a WMT baggie?

JEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOMEEEEE

>>57539105
Gotta call your female advisor at the brokerage

I have made money every night for over two weeks on the SEHK. Tonight is not an exception.

spent an evening on /v/ for the first time in a while. I didn't see a single xenoblade post. I didn't know that was possible.

SIRS, DO NOT REDEEM THE STOCK

>>57539146
>>57539080
You know if you write whatever "text" in parenthesis it shows only that word

>>57539155

What should I buy? Whats the next WKHS

>>57539152
Yeah, lots of the holdings are oil *and* gas, alongside pipelines, and shit like COP which runs the gamut.

If you're looking for less/unhedged nat gas producers: AR, SWN, CRK and maybe OBE? Just going off charts so you'd need to double check.

>>57539187
Just tried and its not working any better. Are you confusing DALLE for stable diffusion?

>>57539204
BLBD. You've tried electric mail trucks, but how about electric schoolbuses?

>>57539210

>>57539215
Holy based

>>57538570
Im thinking of going 50/50 stupidly otm tmo desu

>>57539206
Well yeah, I know they are both NATGAS AND OIL companies, but I've never nooticed one that rides the NATGAS price like they do the OIL price or anywhere even close to it, but I've also not specifically looked for it so maybe there's one or some that move closely to it. NATGAS AND OIL prices move very differently from each other. I would love to find a company that moves breddy close to NATGAS prices though.

>>57539224
What style of artist or painting do you ask for? Oil paint? I like the aesthetic

>>57539215

>>57539195
Fantastic, thanks fren
May Sam Walton bless you with consistent 1.5% dividends and EDLP (everyday low prices)

>>57539246
Yeah, personally I'd start by looking into those 4. Their investor presentations or quarterly earnings reports should say what their oil/gas and hedged/unhedged mix is like.

AR: https://www.anteroresources.com/investors/presentations
SWN: https://www.swn.com/investors/annual-reports/
CRK: https://investors.comstockresources.com/news-events/events-presentations
OBE: https://obsidianenergy.com/investor-centre/presentations-events/

>>57537644
Anyone who shits on Robinhood, just reply with a screencap of this guy.

>>57539251
I’m not going to give out the exact secret sauce our of fear coomers misuse it, but yeah its mostly “oil paint, glowing” that gives to this effect

>>57539262
To my regret I don't actually own any. The idea is simply too... cringe? Evil? A business that shouldn't exist. Same feeling I get investing in GEO.

>>57537644
based

>>57539271
I don't see any substantial correlation between their charts and the NATGAS chart for the same timeframe (looked at all set to 1 year) but they *do* look breddy tradeable nonetheless.

>>57538669
unironically next.to

>>57539284
Blu Bird buses, the regular yellow school buses, are pure american culture. You do love america don’t you? You aren’t a filthy communist? A real capitalist would be making money from the government ferrying poor people around

>>57539296
Yeah, you can't beat futures for 1:1 matching spot. But whether you go with those or UNG, there's contract fuckery. UNL stretches your NATGAS bet out so it covers the next year, while those NATGAS-heavy companies stretch your bet out for the lifetime of their resources.

A bump in, say, winter 2026 prices on account of some LNG export terminal opening then would only show up in their stock prices.

>>57539271
>>57539296
SWN comes somewhat close on the 3 month chart.

>>57539316
Yeah but I heard their stock price is only pumping because Biden stimulus money is being frittered away on electric models.

If five years from now some schoolbus full of kids conks out in the middle of a blizzard and they freeze to death because EVs suck, I don't want that on my conscience.

>>57539327
>winter 2026 prices
I don't think retail goyim care about trading those far out future prices

>>57539327
I'm slurpin bits of UNL on every good dip over time to ultimately make it my primary parking spot for capital once the kick ass money market yields dry up when the Fed droops rates.

>>57539343
>conscience
Sirs, please this is the stock market general

>>57539346
That's true, but I believe I'm discussing this with a highly educated expert (our resident NO NATGAS NIGGER hater)

>>57538924

you got lucky once, and you greeded.

always nice to win a bet. maybe it'll happen again

GOOD MORNING SIRS. DO NOT REDEEM THE PEPE STOCK MARKET IMAGES

>>57539343
Easy. Invest when democrat wins, short when republican wins

Hold pypl puts on open?
Or sell?

>>57539363
Be aware you *are* constantly losing money due to storage costs if you take that approach. And that's before the secular oversupply in the nat gas market. There's a reason its inflation-adjusted price is below rock bottom.

>>57539376
>you got lucky once, and you greeded
Yes, it was my first couple months trading
>always nice to win a bet. maybe it'll happen again
I know how to take profit now... Now if I could just learn how to let winners ride longer then I'll really be cooking with gas

>>57539366
My rule is to choose and size investments such that I can always sleep at night.

This *is* financial advice.

>>57539391
Didn’t natural gas briefly have a negative price in 2020?

Baking...

>futures

>>57539391
Nah, all of that is getting rebalanced over the next 2 years starting this Summer. I watch the COONTRAK curves and EIA projections.

I literally just died again to some faggot with that birdskin. Were under the last 5. >>57538777

These skins are so fuckin annoying. You automatically want to shoot at the chest-head region but they neither have a real chest nor a normal head. Broken

>>57539489
dropped 2 crowns since i bought my bird skin, loving it

With Disney they'll probably add Baby Yoda as a skin

They even just asked me what I don't like.
>Player search
>loot
>map
>etc.
What's missing naturally is FUCKIN DOGSHIT SKINS.

>>57539403
That was because of forwardation/contango and zero demand on produced oil
Basically, it HAD to go somewhere and storage was at capacity so people were paying you money to hold it for them

>>57539403
Nah, oil dipped to the negatives (this is a fun story on that: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-12-10/stock-market-when-oil-when-negative-these-essex-traders-pounced)) because shutting wells is a bitch, storage tanks filled up, and the EPA fines you if you just Exxon Valdez it everywhere.

Nat gas you can just flare (read: burn) any excess.

>>57539403
Oil. Entirely due to paper trade. They were paying people with storage to take their contracts off their hands so they didn’t have to take delivery.

>Jerome on 60 minutes
>While inflation is coming down we don't expect price levels to come down unless it's a very negative situation

>>57539582
But i remember the giant flares during that period? They were huge fire balls that lasted for weeks

I have a call with my (female) banker tomorrow
What should I discuss with her? She wants to know about my financial goals and banking needs to sell me products I guess, but I don't have any goals or needs...

>>57539593
They have flared oil wells for decades. Natural gas prices have been shit for a long time. Cheaper to burn it off than to try to transport it and process it, especially in the newer shale fields where there is no infrastructure.

>>57539590
Is this the new "sound and resilient"?

>>57539593
Are you thinking of the Gulf War? Because that had some kino fires.

You can check nat gas prices on TradingView or whatever though and see they never went below 1.40-ish.

>>57539606
How big are her tits?

>>57539606
Do you want to just work until you're dead? No family or vacations or houses you want to spend money on? Ever?

>>57539606
Tell her that your primary financial goal is to trade NATGAS AND OIL so as to transcend homosexuality.

>>57539617
I don’t live near shale or oil. I live near natural gas. I distinctly remember seeing this during 2020. It was before a move, i remember having just given my 2 weeks notice and every day until I left that job I had to drive past the giant fire ball

>>57539619
No i live in america

baking

>>57539624
I don't know, I never met her in person
>>57539626
I don't really want to do anything... I just like sitting at home watching the markets, posting with you guys, and reading. Occasionally I like to get a hamburger and milkshake. I don't feel like that's the kind of goal she wants to hear about.
The only reason I have a personal banker is because I have so much money at the bank already... money I don't know what to do with.
>>57539631
This is just a regular bank
Not a natural gas or oil bank...

>>57539640
That might have been after bleeding heart libs at the EPA or your state's busybody government put rules on dumping nat gas into the air. Like that other anon said, you can effectively get a negative price if the Henry Hub price is $1.40 but it costs $1.50 to transport from the well to the storage tanks. Then burning it for $0 is the economical choice.

>>57539652
>I just like sitting at home watching the markets, posting with you guys, and reading. Occasionally I like to get a hamburger and milkshake.
Based. For me it's chocolate milkshakes

>>57539671
So do I...

>>57539652
It don't matter what kind of bank it is, you just want her to know how BASED you are so you tell her NATGAS AND OIL and listen for the sounds of squishy moistures.

>>57539652
Damn you sound exactly like me. I don't really have any need for lots of money but life without it sounds really bad. Then again having to think about all these charts and how to allocate said cash doesn't feel all that great either.

>>57539694
get into a nerd hobby like table top strategy games, reading old books, long walks on the beach

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>>57539708