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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
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>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
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or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

TOTAL BINANCE DEATH

>>57535980
based

WTF ????

WTF???

>>57536204
Looks Binance specific to me.

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wonder if I'm ever gonna be able to withdraw my xmr from binance now. I own 6 xmr that definitely doesn't exist

>>57536370
>6 xmr on binance
I truly cannot imagine how this can happen.

this is a monerochan thread
post them

>>57536370
>wonder if I'm ever gonna be able to withdraw my xmr from binance now
why fren? withdraws are not suspended anymore

>>57535945
>If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable
Bitcoin is 44k though

>>57536423
>Bitcoin is 44k though

For now lol.

>>57535847
Necessity is the mother of invention.

The need to have CEX was holding monero back.
Now that monero is CEXless it can finally prosper and grow.

I am euphoric

Is it cheaper to exchange LTC or BCH for XMR?

>>57536450
Uhhh ya, it'll break 50k soon enough.

>>57536515
>Uhhh ya, it'll break 50k soon enough.

Why so bearish? $100K by end of year, $10 million by end of decade. This is no end to NGU!! HODL!! WAGMI!!!!!!!!

>>57536581
Sure it'll hit 100k by EOY or maybe 2025 but there's no big rush.

Speaking of, the Bitcoin University guy has a message for us in his latest video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkJDAwJ1iN8

Will you heed the call, anon?

Reposting since the last thread died so fast:

At first, I was sad about the Binance delisting. But now I realize: Do you guys even understand what has just happened?
Due to its widespread adoption, Monero is probably one of the only coins besides Bitcoin that can survive a massive delisting like this. What this means:

>no more paper monero
>no more CEX price manipulation due to coin shortages
>no more futures and widespread degenerate gambling with leverage
>government entities ordered CEX's to stop negotiating Monero, confirming that they can't in fact trace it

Due to the ending of paper Monero and fractional reserves by exchanges, users will have to store ACTUAL monero in their wallets. Banks in a heavily regulated environment are required by law to hold only 8% to 10% of the money their clients have (or 0% since March 15, 2020 if you live in the USA). Binance wasn't required to store anything, and we don't know how much Monero they actually hold. What we knew is that they always had issues with withdrawals, meaning that they didn't hold enough.
Assuming a very conservative estimate that all exchanges have 25% of their users Monero in reserves, that means this delisting could have at least a 4x effect in reducing the supply and consequentially a 4x effect in the price, assuming people just keep using it like normal. This is how we surpass bitcoin.

>>57536645
> schizo cope
You must be fucking delusional to post this after your shitcoin went down 30% in a day.
> bu-but akshually it’s a good thing
Less liquidity is never a good thing retard. ZEC devs played the long game here. Monero will die a slow death because nobody wants to use atomic swaps or Bisq (lol). Normal people just want to go on a normal exchange, and buy a coin with their debit card.

>>57536473
cexlet

>tried to buyd on kraken this morning
>Found out my state cucked and doesnt allow Kraken
>Goes to unstoppableswap.net a website i never used before
>Tells me about an update and I ignore it
>Do the atomic swap and everything goes well
>Now I own a piece of the pie
Binance doesn't have enough Monero to cover all the withdrawals. They can cover for sells but thats it. We can short squeeze them and force them to buyd Monero at the going rate and charge perhaps even more money to get a Monero from our cold dead hands and essentially short squeeze them.

>>57536749

yay! the salty demoralization troll is back!

in b4 ITS OVER!

How the fuck are so many people not on Bisq already or at least swap sites like eXch that hold their own reserves?

Like I cannot fathom why you would buy a privacy coin from a centralized exchange that permanently has (and frequently leaks) cringe photos of you holding your passport up next to your face like a clown.

>>57536821
people want to cash out all their crypto at once. you can't have that with bisq which provides a very low liquidity. furthermore in some countries this can lead to problems due to AML regulations. your bank probably is going to terminate your bank account due to peer-to-peer cryptocurrency trading.

So how expensive are swaps on a dex? Which pair is the cheapest overall? I don't want to pay $10 to turn shitcoins into XMR.

>>57536947
Unless you're LPing stables, you need to be a pro to not lose money to IL. No one wants to hold XMR or BTC against Serai and lose money when they could just hold XMR or BTC. So liquidity + premiums can be an issue unless the DEX is subsidizing LPs through an inflationary shitcoin and even then it often fails.

There's still atomic swaps, but no one wants to help launder crime money to Monero and end up blamed for it.

>>57536899
Nah, I bank in a non-CRS jurisdiction. They couldn't care less what I do long as I keep paying my fees. Didn't even have to provide them an address to sign up, lmao.

If you're in EU and incapable of traveling outside for banking, you can use Revolut instead. Used them for over 6 years whenever I'm in the region, sending regular offshore transfers and in recent years revolut-to-revolut trades on bisq with no issue. They asked me for SOF once, provided proof of my regular income through chat and they said "thanks" and never bothered me again.

>>57536749
>and buy a coin with their debit card
you mean localmonero?

Well, looks like it's possible to buy monero directly from the cake wallet. That looks pretty useable.

>>57536398
buy orders I wasn't expecting to actually go through. I've been meaning to use another exchange but I'm fucking lazy, I can't stand binance
>>57536420
still suspended for me

>>57536749
>ZEC devs played the long game here
lmao by nerfing their privacy to stay on (((binance)))?

>>57537432
The only change they had to do to the protocol was implement an address type that is transparent and can't receive from shielded type.
This doesn't compromise the privacy retard. It's only one hop more: you buy on binance, send to this exchange address, then send to the shielded address.

>>57537940

So....Zcash bent the knee? Figures.

>>57537940
>they just complied with the feds and reduced the overall privacy set... but its a good thing!

>>57538016
>>57537940
just like Firo
bend the knee

>>57538016
It changes absolutely nothing to the privacy set. The special addresses are only there so binance can prove they aren't laundering money for hamas or russia, which is exactly what they got in trouble for. YOU can use shielded addresses after you get your zcash from binance.

>>57538003
> bent the knee
There exists a reality where exchanges must operate within regulated jurisdictions. The tradeoff of denying this reality is that monero will fade into obscurity because there is no liquidity and no new users. You think that's le based because you're an edgy libertarian kid, but the market already priced in a 30% cut to the value of your shitcoin.

>>57538201
No you ABSOLUTE MIDWIT RETARD
Monero dumped 30% because Binance doesn't hold enough Monero on their books so they had to dump it to allow themselves the ability to handle all XMR withdrawals for cheap. They were manipulating the price for years and just got caught with their pants down. The fact that it dumped 30% is irrelevant. If anything it's bullish for Monero because they will no longer be around to artificially suppress the price.
Now do a 360 and go back to R*ddit you moonfaggot

>>57538201
lol, lmao.
>they bent the knee for the FBI and IRS and thats a le good thing

>>57538321
> Monero dumped 30% because Binance doesn't hold enough Monero on their books so they had to dump it
That is absolute schizo cope. How did they dump it if they didn't have it on their books lmao. Just think through the steps here. They would have to sell more Monero that they don't have to bring the price down?
This delusional level of copiong is the ultimate proof Monero has no future. Your entire community is composed of schizos, lolbert incels and darknet drug dealers. There is no market there. Zoomers are not going to download tails linux, and install bisq, or send cash in an envelope to some dude trading on telegram. 10 years from now, BTC will be >$1M and everyone on this board will be retired, but you'll still be here making monero generals, jerking to monerochan, and making up conspiracy theories with the other 5-6 potheads who hang out in these threads.

>>57538835
Bro, just go to your Zcash general. No one values your insults and bad takes here. Maybe try to take a good look in the mirror in the way.

Rly feeling the psyop agents in this thread who consider privacy coins a bad thing.

>>57536618
>please come bang your head against the wall trying to save a surveillance coin
lmao

>>57538321
>post yfw Binance "changes their mind" about delisting at the last minuite and had planned this fud all along as a last resort in order to save themselves from a withrawl defecit that had been building up over the years and gotten too big to wave away with any more network congestion excuses. YJK.

>yet another 16 hour day of histrionic FUDfaggots monitoring /biz/ for XMR posts to seethe about
I sure hope you're getting paid and not doing this for free, that would just be too pathetic

>>57536618
>denial
>anger
>bargaining [maxipads are now here]
>depression
>acceptance

>>57538201
>but the market already priced in a 30% cut to the value of your shitcoin.
The irony of a ziontrash shill appealing to marketprice when the same market still values Monero 6x more than your backdoored kike scam.

>>57538942
>>57539026
>>57539115
Yet another round of deflection and cope, but nobody dares to defend these schizo claims:
> Monero dumped 30% because Binance doesn't hold enough Monero on their books so they had to dump it to allow themselves the ability to handle all XMR withdrawals for cheap.
I take it the point is conceded?
>>57539115
> t-address sends $100 from t-address to z-address
> 2min later, $100 is sent from z-address to t-address
This is a retarded argument. If you only transact between z-addresses, nothing is traceable. Monero is subject to the same heuristics, because exchange addresses are visible to the exchanges and chain analysis. Sending money to an XMR exchange address is the same as sending money to a z-cash t-address for all intents and purposes.

fuck binance lmao

came here to post this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JELLSqLduAc

bye

you guys think is gonna dump more or the panic selling is over?

>>57539473
Can't dump anymore because it's delisted. Nowhere to sell.

Eyes on the prize:

>Seraphis
>Jamtis
>Full Membership Proofs

MONERO IS THE FINAL SOLUTION TO THE TAXMAN QUESTION.

>>57538835
Let's entertain the theory for a bit:
>halt withdrawals
>sell all the XMR you have while announcing you'll delist the coin, tanking the price
>buyback in
>re-enable withdrawals
Now compare that theory with what actually happened.
Btw, is the Zcash full-node wallet working yet?

really hope the price goes back up again so i can afford to buy more valium for my job interview next week

>>57536618
Kek. I always love this token show of appreciation they like to pull after spreading misinformation about Monero. Do they think it will work?

>>57536749
>ZEC devs played the long game here.
Yes, the long game of being (((compliant))) and irrelevant to the free software movement and to the creation of a parallel permisionless economy.

>>57539978
>Btw, is the Zcash full-node wallet working yet?
https://github.com/ZcashFoundation/zecwallet/issues/409
>opened this issue Oct 30, 2023 · 0 comments
>I am unable to connect or send transactions everything is failing. Will the wallet be updated so everything works again?

>>57538201
z cash is trash
case closed
monero wins

I want to slurp

>>57540365
I'm considering slurping with some BTC too.

weed will become legal in germany in just a few months
monero is beginning to end

>>57540375
>tool to pacify the consuming populace becomes legal
Means more surveillance and control is coming, so good for Monero either way.

Anyone got a good place for grabbing DNM stats (size, growth, etc)?

>>57539638
There will always be someone willing to pick it up. Its main userbase isn't going away any time soon.

>hmm today I will create an untraceable coin, mint it infinitely and sell from separate wallets
great project guys

>>57540448
>untraceable
it's the whole point
>infinitely
tail emission nigger, watch sound money, safe mode
>separate wallets
learn good opsec, you have no idea how much your privacy is compromised
fuck this dystopia

>>57540448
post proof or your mother gay

>>57540471
he has no proof and his mom sucks my titties every night

>>57540396
http://moneroj.net/dread_subscribers/

>>57540537
Cheers ladski

Anyone here use nonkyc.io or know if it's legit? Looks like it just opened up last year, it's not even listed on kycnot.me

Thinking of selling on monermarket, does anyone have any experience selling? I was thinking of my selling my ps4, thinkpad t420, an old logitech mechanical keyboard and an aer city pack pro. Do you think anyone would actually buy any of that shite?

>>57541002
i recommend the site. Sold a few things myself. If you plan on selling expensive things, it's recommended to use the multisig feature

>>57540994
I've used it for one transaction.

so what exactly is it about Monero that makes bitcoiners seethe so much?

>>57538201
>The tradeoff of denying this reality is that monero will fade into obscurity because there is no liquidity and no new users.
XMR is not the same as your shit memecoin, it's actually used for ACTUAL transactions, like, money, instead of digital numbers on a screen.

>>57541934
Many things, but the main one is that it's much closer to what Satoshi wanted to create.

>>57541970
It's true. Bitcoin didn't spike in price until well after chain analysis was developed, which suggests it's a giant liquidity trap to keep non-dollar flows either in traceable coins (BTC) or traceable stablecoin dollar equivalents that support Treasuries demand (Tether, USDC). There's a reason China banned mining and now fucking 38% of hash rate is in the US under OFAC controls. Ethereum also cucked out to US government pressure by going PoS, with the SEC at one point claiming legal authority over the entire blockchain because a majority of Ethereum validators are in the US. The US and EU even have pressure on Binance. What did they do with that pressure?

They delisted Monero, because it works.

do you think monero will climb to 150 again in the next few weeks? or is there a reason to expect it to drop even further?

>>57542365
Yeah

>>57541934
their most common arguments against altcoins - e.g., brand, price, liquidity - suffer when faced with the reality that there is a *tangible* demand for monero that currently does not exist elsewhere in crypto.

I'm Satoshi

>>57542365
Zoom out my man, this isn't even the first time its happened this decade lmao

>>57542693
yeah I've only gotten into Monero to buy certain things online with it so I don't know anything about it

>>57542864
Don't worry, the fact that you did that is bull case enough in the long term.

Is there a good decentralized bridge or exchange that at least pretends to be privacy preserving from XMR to some EVM? All I need is some non-KYC ETH and MATIC and I don't want to stain my existing wallets with tornado cash. I guess a centralized swap thing is good enough too, because the source of the funds (XMR) will be untraceable anyways

>>57543111
SCRT on ATOM has a sXMR - XMR bridge
Also has na ETH - sETH bridge and binance smart chain. It requires an email to proton mail and is clunky. But it works.
Its privacy was cracked a while back. But works agains random wrench attacks.
It is the only monero/atom/eth/binance DEX as of now.
It also has monero yeald farming, if your stupid

>>57536749
imagine wanting to be "normal people" in 2024

>>57543111
SeraiDEX is coming with ETH to XMR swaps.

>>57539334
>t-address
kek tranny coin confirmed

Is there a way to add Monero to Metamask or do I need another separate wallet? I will already have 3 fucking wallets goddammit

>>57544097
Monero is its own chain and Metamask is EVM only so no. Feather wallet is the best lightweight wallet for desktop, or if you have ~200GB to spare you can use the official GUI wallet and run your own node.

>>57544108
Thanks friend. A lot of people seem to be shilling Cake Wallet, is it worse than Feather? I'm not looking for any advanced functions, just wanna store my few XMR I've had on an exchange until now.

>>57544203
>>57544108
Nevermind, I just noticed Cake is only on iOS. So Feather it is then.

>>57544108
Don't do that to the kid, >>57544097
you only need 64gb for a pruned chain if you're gonna run feather or the official. Exodus wallet also has XMR, but they're closed source so only put in it what you're willing to lose.

>>57544216
I really don't wanna spend 64 GB on a wallet, is it really so big? I thought wallets are a few MB at most ... if it's such a pain in the ass I might just sell my XMR

>>57544241
you can use a remote node

>>57544216
>>57544108
Can you autists not spaz every time a normal person comes around? Just tell him the most user friendly phone app with no steps or node configuration required. If he likes it, he'll learn about being more private and contributing to network decentralization on his own.

>>57544241
You can sync with remote nodes, either a public one or one you set up yourself, but its naturally not as secure.

>>57544312
>Learning cyphercraft as you go
The only way to learn it that way, is the hard way of having your coins drained by some pajeet or getting V& due to shitty opsec.

>>57543111
>All I need is some non-KYC ETH
Why not tradeogre or some other equivalent?

If, hypothetically, I had a friend who was willing to bet some Monero on the Super Bowl, who is your pick? Kansas City Chiefs are currently the underdogs on the betting markets which is baffling to me.

>>57544432
>Still watching niggerball/refball kayfabe goyslop
Bet on yourself, even ETH will >5x this coming run.

>>57544467
So is that a vote for the Chiefs or the 49ers?

>>57544473
>go to 4chins
>go to the business board full of nerds
>go to the thread full of people doing their own thing
>Ask about normalfag shit no one cares about.
>>>/espn.com/

>>57544492
I have no idea why this innocuous question would knock you off kilter.

>>57544241
>I really don't wanna spend 64 GB on a wallet, is it really so big? I thought wallets are a few MB at most
just download feather wallet fren, it's just a few MB
the wallet will just connect to a trusted node and that's it
no need to download the whole chain

>>57544645
>>57544314
>>57544284
Thank you all, it was extremely easy. I'm already set up with Feather and withdrawn from CEX.

>>57544681
My brother in Christ, you're gonna make it. Happy we could give you the push.

>>57544108
>if you have ~200GB to spare you can use the official GUI wallet and run your own node
>>57544216
>you only need 64gb for a pruned chain if you're gonna run feather or the official
why are these retards recommending to new frens to download the chain?
just recommend the easy thing to do, cake wallet for mobile or feather wallet for desktop
stop being retarded

>>57544727
The easy thing to do isn't secure as a fact. There's no point to getting into monero or crypto in general if you're just gonna put a target on your back. Before you ask retard, tor and i2p.

>>57544793
woman you glow like the sun

>>57544793
Tbh I only have a few XMR and I don't really use it, I just wanna hold some. So lightweight is perfect for me, for now. Maybe in time I'll get to something more complicated with more functions, but I just needed to quickly withdraw at this point

>>57544704
I did it for Monero-chan

>>57544681
>>57544895
Based and comfy. Feather is a fine choice.

Monero is the comfiest hodl

>>57544793
(you)
https://gist.github.com/joepie91/6a5f50b27965c711436f5b566f97960d

>>57544727
>why are these retards recommending to new frens to download the chain?
>just recommend the easy thing to do, cake wallet for mobile or feather wallet for desktop
I literally recommended Feather in that post.

sup guys, can someone send based meme where fat monero basedman stay w/ m4a1 and text like 'you/government', airplanes on background. request from /cc/ russian community

>>57546055
guys, rly, our community cant find this meme >:( also why on ur board word onions replaced with based? kind of cringe, but okay.

>>57545552
>https://gist.github.com/joepie91/6a5f50b27965c711436f5b566f97960d

I can't wait for pissrael to be wiped off the map. I wonder if the night and day difference will just melt your brain.

is the binance shit over then? what's the next excuse for the crabbing

>>57546423
a currency doesn't crab

>>57544895
Anon, feather wallet is not a lightweight wallet, its just a simple and straightforward wallet with no bullshit. totally recommended.

Lightweight wallets (as described in the monero official site)
>These wallets share your private view key with a remote server, which continuously scans the blockchain looking for your transactions. They are faster to use, but your privacy can be lessened if you don't control the remote server.
Do not use lightweight wallets.

>>57547008
Thank you for the elaboration, desu I didn't mean lightweight as in some defined XMR terminology, I just literally meant it won't require 200 GB on harddisk

I got some more Moneroj today. Buying the delisting dip feels like stealing from panicked retards.

>>57547310
based and same.
Although of course i didn't listen to myself (>>57525920) and waited for a bank wire like a little cuck instead of swapping my BTC immediately at what now turned out to be the very bottom.
>he wired?

>>57547443
I'm the anon you originally replied to in that thread and made the exact same mistake. Wired cash over and missed out.

i have a double digit stack of xmr now :DDD

>>57547831
double digit in terms of price*

>>57547842
Good job on your $10 worth!

>>57547854
thank you anon im very proud of it
what can i expect EoY? $15? $20?

>>57547860
I personally expect all moonfags to get the rope.

>>57546055
>fat monero basedman stay w/ m4a1 and text like 'you/government', airplanes on background

you mean this one?

>>57548189

oops, meant this one.

This shit is never passing $400 again. Can't wait for some faggot to try and tell me "xmr dropping is actually a good thing"

>>57548599
cool, good luck out there

>>57548674
I'll need it while I'm bagholding this shitcoin

i missed the sale again

>>57547310
I got some because I use it anyways
>>57547831

so how is serai going to work?
who provides liquidity?

>>57548956
>who provides liquidity?
People who want to earn passive gains.

>>57549034
funds are safu?

>>57549051
>funds are safu?
Not really given the history of these types of chains. Don't provide more liquidity than you would be willing to lose.

>>57549034
Sounds like there is usury involved.

>>57549103
true
something ain't right

My Kubernetes cluster of Mac Mini miners is up to six M2 machines now. I'm still profitable on power.

whats the best place to gamble my XMR?
monero.vegas is fun but plinko gets boring and the maximum bet is kinda low

how do you guys feel about ZEPH? is it going to replace monero? it seems like a clone of monero, but better.

>>57549693
premined + dev tax = fuck off

>>57549717
its devs are the literal same devs as monero you imbecile

>>57549738
it has a premine
it has a dev tax
it can fuck off
hope this helps!

>>57549693
>oracle
>pre-mine
>taxes

Aaaaaaaa

nigger.

>>57548822
whatever you say man, maybe schizo, get yourself checked out for that

>>57544492
Why don't you just go b ack to red dit?

>>57544513
Tranny hormones probably.

>>57549851
Why do people do this and record it. It makes me sick.

>>57550032
it‘s funny

>>57550094
>a cute animal suffering is funny
I thought so too at 13, now I cringe so hard it makes me cry.

>>57536947
What form of cryptocurrency would Terry support?

How vulnerable to chain analysis am I if the main way I buy monero is by buying bitcoin and using trocador.app to swap it to monero? As far as chananal is concerned I've been sending random amounts to a new and random bitcoin address each time? That's all they can tell right?

>>57550391
withdraw to subaddress

problem solved.

>>57550391
>>57550402
to clarify- you are no more vulnerable to it, the problem being solved is your worry.

>>57550406
Do you mean withdraw my xmr to a new wallet? Also they can never know that the bitcoin is being swapped to xmr? I send btc to an address and they send xmr to my address? Chainanal cannot know why I've sent the btc to that address?

>>57550414
If you use trocador with a different subaddress (not wallet, just new address of your existing XMR wallet), different bitcoin addresses and different IPs each time it's fine.

>>57550424
>different IPs each time it's fine.

Just use the Trocador onion or eepsite.

http://trocadorfyhlu27aefre5u7zri66gudtzdyelymftvr4yjwcxhfaqsid.onion/
http://trocador.i2p/

>>57548599
>>57548674
>>57535847
Ok so what are short term price predictions? Will Monero go down below $100? Binance is a pretty big deal, could this cause a cascading effect with other exchanges?

>>57547008
Depends on your threat model. Lightweight wallet is safe enough for 90% of users, while being noticably faster. I recommend MyMonero. But if you are a criminal or pedo then this is definitely not for you.

>>57550470
crabbing

>>57550424
>>57550450
Okay, thank you. Did not realize you could make subaddresses. I also think I'm going to use litecoin instead of bitcoin for lower transaction fees. I've been bleeding 13-14 dollars every time I've bought monero like a dumbass.

>>57550107
Same...
>>57550163
It would HAVE to be something that makes the lives of glowies harder.
>>57550812
Check BCH too, Electron Cash does easy coin mixing, it is widely accepted if you want to purchase something, the non custodial BCH Bull can be used to hedge against BTC or Gold or USD or whatever if you are afraid that BCH will drop in value compared to them and the fees are super low. LTC has that segwit crap like BTC that perverts miner incentives. I never liked LTC. It seemed like a desparate attempt to be different without doing anything of significance differently.

>>57548189
nah, fat_s_o_y_monero-maxi-man with m4a1, as I remember on background was airplanes and text you(fatman) and government (airplanes on background)

>>57551135
>BCH
Should I have it for things that don't accept XMR? Is it better than BTC?

https://youtu.be/QQCmFDN9klw?si=Yz-xRUHJmRrYySQf

>>57551276
I'm not telling you to invest in anything. Ideally you should diversify on actually useful stuff.

But I would keep some on an Electron Cash wallet with mixing enabled for three rounds. I do use BCH to buy stuff, and it works like BTC used to work. Not having to think about fees (whether for on-chain txs or for re-balancing channels) is great, and easy coin mixing is a bonus. Before you buy BCH, check if the stuff you usually buy accept it. Mine do.

>>57550391
>>57550402
>>57550406
>>57550414
>>57550424
>>57551135
>>57550812
wouldn't chainanal be able to trace your bitcoin and know you're sending bitcoin to someone or exchange (((they))) don't like? therefore flagging you??

>>57551276
>Is it better than BTC?
I forgot to reply to that. I really don't know anon, depends what you mean by better. I *like* BCH better, but the price is shittier than BTC and maybe the prospects are too, or maybe not. I think tech-wise it's better. And the community has more ancaps so that's a plus for me but maybe a minus for you. XMR is even better using these criteria though. BTC HAS been taken over by banksters, I don't know how anyone can deny that at this point. They've turned it into a useless currency just to force people into centralized-or-shitty-experience layer-2 solutions. The whitepaper of Bitcoin doesn't apply to BTC anymore.

>>57535847
Couldn't Binance have been compliant or whatever by just supplying/requesting view keys? I don't really see why that wasn't an option. t.brainlet

>>57551792
That would not even look libe a poor attempt at killing monero so that might be why that didn't happen.

>>57551792
View keys only work on incoming transactions. They can't see where you send.

>>57551792
No, because AML/KYC is about knowing where your customers' money comes from. Monero is entirely focused on defeating that. It's why Ztroons offering compliance are a guarantee that their privacy tech doesn't work.

>>57551391
Explain the full scenario in detail anon cause I'm not sure what you're asking.

>>57535980
seems so
>>57549693
seems like a clone of haven
>>57551792
they’ve been tptb for years

>>57551878
kyc cex -> btc wallet -> dex -> xmr wallet

I just turned 20 bucks worth of xmr into ltc. It cost me 5%.
Is this really how it's going to be from niw on?

>>57552535
Until Serai gets a bunch of liquidity yeah.

>>57552518
I'm not sure how dex transactions look like, I assume that they are not regular transactions so I guess your kyc cex would be able to know that you took the coins into a dex. Does anyone else know if these transactions are discernible in any way? They are time-locked or multikey I suppose.

>>57550488
>privacy is only for criminals and pedos otherwise if you are a good citizen you shouldn't care that much
Ok glowie, now please leave

>>57552707
Atomic swaps are invisible in this sense.

>>57552816
Interesting, I got to read about them and how they work then. I know the BTC gets locked before the XMR is locked, whatever that means.

I'm Satoshi

i've done my share of slurping, hopefully within a week it'll recover and i'll be able to buy bonus drugs

>>57553471
I'm already back up like $30 from buying st 103. But basically my game plan too

Will something happen after Binance entirely suspend monero?

>>57553601
Less market suppression

Is there any dex where you can exchange eth for xmr? I don't want to exchange on kraken if I can avoid it.

>>57554042
Almost instantly on Trocador.app and on localmonero

>>57553601
You won't be able to transact monero using benance

Why is the entire market up but XMR is still red?
Should i be moving profits into it? I don't see why it would stay this low for much longer.
>inb4 moonfag

>>57537055
I got banned from Revolut for trading crypto, what bank do you use?

MONEROMARKET.IO

Monero Economy

Why does this shit take so fucking long?

>>57555940
its like 200gb anon

>>57555112

>>57555940
Why didn't you used pruned mode?

>>57556097
I am. It still takes days. I have 100mbps but download is like 200kbps

>>57555940
use a remote node poorfag

>>57556121
do you have ssd or hdd?

>>57556232
SSD. The first 50GB was done in an hour or so. The last blocks take at least a whole day. Weird.

>>57556250
the blocks got larger after updates. You can just connect to a remote node from monero.fail if you dont want to sync the entire blockchain.

>>57555940
>>57556121
>>57556250
It's not the download that's taking a long time, it's the speed of your storage being able to verify all of the transactions on the blockchain. Even running it on NVME and SSD takes a really long time, but if you were to try this on a cheap hard drive with substandard read/write speeds it would take weeks to fully synchronize the blockchain. It's the cost of having ring signatures, stealth addresses, and ringCT all working at once.

>>57556319
what's the ideal solution for storing the full chain? NVME SSDs in a Raid 0 configuration?

>>57556311
>>57556319
Ah, thanks. So it's normal then. I thought it was throttling.

Again, I'm here to tell you that without Serai I can't really be bothered with Monero but I still really, really want to impregnate the Monero girl.

>>57556334
nvme raid (whatever raid you choose depends on what the specific machine is doing) but that is expensive so normal sata ssd raid is fine too.

>>57556334
I've not looked into that specific kind of setup but the benefits are probably marginal. If you need quick access to your monero, the best thing is to have it already set up and ready to transact. Even connecting to a remote node has your wallet doing quick "checks" that takes time to synchronize.

>>57555112
Our shitcoin is going to zero! Please do not buy! Thank you for understanding!

>>57555112
Don't Buy Monero, asshole.

Just a reminder that after the binance delist it will be harder and harder to get monero. No paper monero means a supply shock is in the way. Buy while you can.

>>57557916
That is a retarded argument the delisting will cause selling pressure because of forced liquidation by Binance pushing the price down. You can still get monero on tradeogre, bisq, atms, localmonero etc... No sane person uses KYC exchanges anyway.

>>57557961
Binance withdrawals were suspended twice already this week alone. They don't have much Monero remaining in their reserves. They might also sell to other exchanges like Kraken, which will happily accept since thousands of XMR isn't exactly easy to buy on the open market. Nonetheless, there will be negative price action during the short term, but the long term benefits of going on without a printer on your asset will greatly outweigh that. On the downside, it will take longer the average memory-span of a maxipad so they will never notice.

>>57556338
What is Serai?

>>57556334
1TB RAM server with NVMe storage, storing the blockchain in overlayfs.

>>57558157
I agree completely. Bearish short term as I said.

>>57559514
that would be VERY hot

>>57559668
It's the physical optimum until we get 1TB of CPU cache (lmao).

>>57558157
From a stacker perspective, it's a damn good time.

>>57559514
Redpill me on overlays, right now my blockchain is on a separate NVMe with btrfs.

>>57560524
OverlayFS is a ramdisk periodically synced to persistent storage. The program you use to set it up is anything-sync-daemon. It's faster than NVMe.

>>57552707
>>57552518
ive never used a dex, whats a reputable one that wont steal my wallet when i connect it?

the bitcoin story makes me so happy, the amount of false hope that has been put into it is basically euphoric to me, and the day it comes crashing down will be some of the greatest days of my life

it seems monero is now decoupled from bitcoin

>>57561898
Kek

>>57561998
Mega kek

>>57561998
Which means if Bitcoin goes up, Monero dumps, and if Bitcoin goes down, Monero dumps even harder.
Check the chart.

Looking for P2P morenos in Vietnam

>>57561631
Why is this better than simply utilizing the kernel write cache? Perhaps after increasing vm.dirty_ratio to 90 or so.

>>57561893
For BTC->XMR you can use unstoppableswap.net. You do not connect your wallet. You send the money to a separate wallet and then the application handles the swap for you. It is a bit unstable so if the process fails DO NOT freak out, you can resume failed swaps and get your XMR or your BTC back. Just don't leave it pending for more than 12 hours because then you may lose it.

monerobros you can't stop losing!

inb4 b-but the price doesn't matter!!

rug: pulled

>>57562222
It caches reads as well which is very important for Monero nodes.

going to buy a bag at 10$

did you fill your bags, anons?

>>57559942
It's a blessing If you're bullish XMR, and have liquidity.

>>57562398
I did and I'm mining.

Can someone update me on whats going on? I've been out of the loop for a few months,I logged into binance and discovered that busd being delisted,xmr delisted and it seems all of the trading pairs have disappeared so binance is just like coinbase now it's useless to me I can't even deposit GBP to buy anything with.

I'm planning on buying xmr with the remaining funds and closing the account.

>>57562552
European regulators leaned on Binance for more AML/KYC compliance so they were forced to delist Monero.

>>57562591
So did binance also remove all trading on the platform or am i just being dumb? I can't seem to find it anymore just buy/sell options

>>57562341
So does the kernel read cache. Everything is cached as long as there's free RAM.

Why does synchronizing always start fast and get slower and slower the closer it is to being done?

>>57562766
Probably:

1) More txs in each block as you get to more recent blocks.
2) More potential back-references so verifying blocks takes longer since the node needs to check more stuff from the past. Ring sizes also get bigger on average as time passes, so more past key images are involved in each tx.

I hope I got my terminology right.

>>57562785
Makes sense.

If you have Monero, does it make sense to sell them all now and buy it back later at a lower price?

I think it will dip significantly around Feb 20.

What is your opinion?

I could have bought Bitcoin at $20k, instead I bought XMR at $139.
I believed people care about privacy and fast transactions.
I am the midwit.

fuck your scam and fuck you for shilling it

>>57563150
>I believed people care about privacy
You are buying into privacy while people are doing full face and eye ball scans for le heckin apple goggles

>>57561998
>>57561898
What's the most likely scenario when Tether finally crashes? Both for BTC and XMR.

>>57562922
If you want to gamble your current holdings for a quick 20-30% that's your business. The fact you believe it's going back up means if you sell now... you will indeed be guessing the bottom at some point from when you sell to when you buy back in.

Remember when Cyphertrace cracked monero.

I'm Satoshi

>can't even buy rope with worthless xmr
IT'S OVER

My "only buy what makes strangers angry I hold" index is telling me to buy more XMR today.

Our privacybros Zioncash are about to drop out of the top 200... we can't just sit idle and let it happen

What's the difference between P2Pool mining through the GUI wallet vs doing through Gupex?

>>57563907
what went wrong zioncash sisters? i thought being on exchanges helps adoption by institutions?

hi any advice on mining ive been mining on a 8 servers with intel xeon gold 6140m each iam runnging the cluster on vsphere and the minging is done on 8 ubuntu virtual machines ive been getting an avg of 140kh but i feel like i can get way more can i increase the hashrate or did i hit the limit

>>57564149
ive set each machien with 32 gb of ram and 64 cores
this is how i set my config to use all threads
rx : null;
threads: 64;

hmm what em i missing

>>57564149
>any advice
>xeon
Don't mine with any intel cpu unless your electricity is free, or you just want to support the network. Intel cpus are terribly inefficient. We don't call it housefire inside for no reason.

Who benefits of xmr, if you are a drug dealer of course you Benefit, if you are someone rich with assets you may benefit a little in the random chance xmr moons and becomes what the swiss banks and the vatican banks were in the 50s, but how would you introduce xmr to your average wagie low middle class like a phlebotomist or a waitress these people don't even have the money to be thinking about cryptocurrencys and electricians or farmers which are middle class even thought inflation Is fucking other them i am sure they would benefit but they still need to report every transaction done.

>>57564275
>they still need to report every transaction done.
Or they may not report all of them and get bent over a little bit less.

>>57564275
>Who benefits of xmr
People living under oppressive governments, which is most people. They just don't realize it.. yet.

>>57561631
That's not what overlayfs does. Overlayfs let's you mix a read-only file system with a writeable filesystem that contains the new/updated files.

>>57564275
prostitutes

>>57564149
>intel
there is your problem.
pic related. 13 AMD 3900/3950's

>>57563150
in the long term you'll win

sup monero-maxi-bigots, we in our /cc/ community can’t decide how to call correctly on eng yall - monerotards / moneroautistic / monerogoloid / unmoonaggots / xmrgoloid or schmoneroggots? Please vote for your favorite option, this is very important and we respectfully ask for your opinion on this issue. You can offer your own worthy option, if there is one. It’s very sad that you, like an endangered species, live on sites limited by censorship and the government like 4ch and Reddit.

>57566027
sneed

>>57566027
why are you guys so mad about monero? half the thread already made a bunch of money since the crash by buying at $100. this coin doesn't affect you in anyway if you aren't invested in it

>>57566317
Пepeмoгa?

>>57566027
Oтчeгo вы нe в oкoпe?

>>57566317
Literally me <3

>>57566317

Seems our stubborn refusal to take the crypto ponzi scheme seriously is triggering for a lot of people, Bitfags especially lol.

>>57566325
No, nomad. we're just laughing at the monero-loonies who "just won" by delisting and breaze crystalized copium by holding "monerochka-pisechka".

hoes mad

>>57566390
>muh price action

Sorry, still not taking this manipulated clown market seriously.

>>57566027
>/cc/ community
The credit card community. Named after their preferred method of payment.

Well, Monero-lovers? Are we going to let down our Monero?
Are we moonboys or anonymous enemies of the fiat system? Are we not going to endure a drop against the dollar? Did we trade the idea of Monero for pennies? No, I can see in your eyes, there are no moonboys here.

Not that kind! Here is the steeling of 2014! Three-cycle! Here it reeks of anonymity at the bottom! Here the Monero-lovers guard their coin, their anonymity, and their freedom tightly! No one will even stir here for the sake of reckless Xs, for the sake of high liquidity and women's bank accounts! Different motivations, different morals grow here!

Here a man guards anonymity. We are small ourselves. We can get carried away by the dry wind in the fields, we can even get lost. Our Monero strengthens us to the ground with its roots, like an ancient oak tree's rootstock! With Monero, we can endure any drops. And from that, we ourselves guard our Monero - on our side, with our chill.

If we see that Monero is not doing well, then we'll take off the last shirt from our torso - "buy the dip!" we, men, don't choke when Monero falls! And anyone who goes against our Monero, who stirs up trouble - we will do this - by the scruff of the neck - and show memes! Because troubles are beneficial to the bright, agile, sweet, and minty moonboys! Those who sneak into our bed like a snake! Who tries to fall into our porridge from the ceiling like a woodlouse! We are alien to Xs! Our mother didn't tell us those fairy tales in the cradle! We started different songs in Discord!

Come on, guys, start buying the dip! Tomorrow two exchanges will delist, we will buy on bestchange, courier will deliver cash right to the house - we will be full of Monero, and whatever else, Monero-lovers - we will survive, earn, buy monero-stickers from the moneromarket, and stick them on the sly!

>>57566397
>No, nomad. we're just laughing at the monero-loonies who "just won" by delisting and breaze crystalized copium by holding "monerochka-pisechka".

You're unnerved that we don't buy into your delusions like everybody else, its creating cognitive dissonance in your wetbrain so you feel the need to come here and "mock the losers" to make yourself feel better.

Hope you feel somewhat more reassured now, anon.

>>57566431

hvor skal nattens incelvandring gå hen?

>>57566380
kek

>>57566390
>jew
>promotes homosexuality

color me surprised

>>57566465
>in Discord
Дo чeгo cмeшнaя пидopaшкa. Cъeби нa мoчaн и нe вoзвpaщaйcя никoгдa.

What is a "trusted" (the checkbox when editing remote nodes) remote node on the official GUI wallet?

>complete CEX delist happens
What's stopping the community from just collectively deciding that 1XMR = 1toz Au?

>>57566465

Monero Comrades,

In the spirit of irreverence, reminiscent of the Cossacks' bold missive to the Ottoman Sultan in 1676, we address you with fervor and defiance. For we are not just Monero-lovers; we are the guardians of an elusive treasure, the defenders of anonymity, and the architects of a digital rebellion.

As we stand united against the ominous winds of uncertainty, let our resolve echo through the digital plains, just as the Cossacks boldly proclaimed their autonomy in the face of a mighty empire. We are not here for reckless pursuits or to appease the whims of the fiat system; we are here for Monero, and Monero alone.

Much like the steeling of 2014, we embark on a three-cycle journey, rooted in the principles of privacy and freedom. The scent of anonymity permeates our ranks, and, like the Cossacks, we guard our coin with an unyielding grip, ready to resist any attempt to seize our digital sovereignty.

No mere moonboys, we find strength in the roots that Monero extends into the very fabric of our beliefs. In the face of drops against the dollar, we remain unshaken, drawing inspiration from the resilience of an ancient oak's rootstock. Our commitment to Monero goes beyond the pursuit of pennies; it is a pact to endure and prosper in the face of adversity.

When the need arises, we will strip ourselves of the last shirt, proudly declaring, "buy the dip!" in defiance of market uncertainties.

As the Cossacks showed irreverence to the Ottoman Sultan, so shall we, with memes as our modern-day weaponry. Those who dare to oppose our Monero will be seized by the scruff of the neck, for we are the custodians of a different song sung in the digital Discord.

So, Monero-lovers, let the exchanges delist, let the troubles brew; for in the face of these challenges, we will emerge stronger, earning and adorning ourselves with Monero-stickers as symbols of our unyielding commitment.

>>57568249
Absolutely nothing.

1 XMR = 2 HRS LABOR = 2g Au = 6Toz Ag

>>57568359
XMR is a lot scarcer than Au, Ag, or labor at those rates though. It'd need to be 0.01 or 0.001 XMR.

>>57568463
Maybe one day, but that day is not today. In fact due to the daamping the equation wouldn't hold up. I'm devising a more elegant solution. How's this?
.5xmr x 1g Au x 3Toz ag
Man Hour = ---------------------------------
3

>>57568463
>>57568485
fucking gay formatting.

__________.5xmr x 1g Au x 3Toz ag
Man Hour = ---------------------------------
___________________3

>>57568359
1 XMR = 2 hours labor sounds about right given the federal minimum wage is $7.25

>>57568515
I'm talking actual skilled labor, not the accumulation of shekels/post that you're well acquainted with, faggot.

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