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Unironically the most bullish thing in crypto history thus far. Did Bitcoin ever get delisted?
Are you jealous maxis?

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>>57523406
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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

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>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

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The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>XMR now has less dependence on centralized exchanges
>people think this is a bad thing

>the entire thread is just the bot spamming walls of text to hide what happened to the price

>>57523537
retard OP posts them every thread. Everyone knows the price is dumping because of the binance delisting

When do I buy back? Is $25 reasonable?

https://www.binance.com/en/futures/xmr_usdt futures market is still open so they can naked short it till 20th of February, after that it will recover

I was going to deposit money into my stock account, but now I'm seriously contemplating buying dumping said money into XMR. I'm just worried of how XMR will perform in a high interest rate environment, because you cannot earn interest on it. Sure when they print money it will rise in nominal terms , but will it rise in real terms (inflation adjusted). My question is will XMR act like gold in a high inflation high interest rate environment. We just don't know because It's uncharted territory for XMR. Will it rise in real terms because it protects against inflation or because of adoption or will it fall because you cannot earn interest on it? Thought on this?

>>57523557
We're at the bottom, you should buy now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8US_N0Dnl10

I'm in such a good mood today.

I will get some xmr now that it is on sale. I believe in the project and market makers are not real believers of the faith.

>>57523442
only spergs still think were fighting the system. no one believes this shit anymore. we're here to get rich ya fuckin nerd

>>57523645
buy some more ETF shares then faggot lmao

>>57523633
Are we? Check the price.

Godspeed xmrbros

>>57523645
>we're here to get rich ya fuckin nerd

Speak for yourself, moonfag.

>>57523442
is this how you cope with being down 50% on the day, pretend that Bitcoin's success and adoption is somehow a bad thing?

>>57523557
100-110$ is practically steal

>>57523645
>we are hear to be reach
>literally misses the opportunity for the easiest 50% in two days tops

>>57523720
post the phrase "price matters" 25 more times for us buddy

>all this shitposting from doomfags
2017fags literally do not care LMAO

>>57523668
Yup, still the same

>>57523748
price matters and no amount of seethe will change that fact

>>57523758
1/25

>>57523633
>>57523751
idk dude, huge buy orders at these prices on binance, it may wick to 60

>just werks
>untraceable
>easy and simple wallet UI
>accessible mining even to poorfags
>low fees
>at a discount
Why would you buy shitty INU coins and not fade this move?

>>57523748
price is demand is security is adoption is value of network so yes price does matter

>>57523767
Let's see, price matters to:
>miners - determines revenue & network security
>savers - determines value of their accumulated labor
>vendors - affects their profits unless all XMR is immediately sold for cash
>buyers - affects their purchasing power for any Monero on hand

>>57523802
>>57523835
3/25

>>57523802

Price matters in a rational, fair market in the sense it is an accurate reflection of *organic* supply & demand.

Price doesn't matter and is meaningless in a highly irrational, consistently manipulated market like the crypto clown market because in THAT case the price isn't based in fundamentals-first reality.

You may now continue sperging.

>>57523879
Thankfully Binance is delisting it then. Manipulation should go down so the post Feb 20 price should more accurately reflect reality.

it just hit the 100usd resistance level, it gonna shoot up again, exchanges don't matter, lmao, this coin is used to for stuff like buying cp on telegram or some shit anyway.

why exactly Binance delisted it in the first place?

Can't help but notice that Bitcoin has no need for a general thread. Curious.

so the government didn't force binance to do this

>>57523953
They are cucked by the US government.

>>57523908
Are you pretending to not understand the dark web, or are you just not very good with computers?

>>57523953
They literally delisted it because it's too private and makes governments seethe.

>>57523381
LOLING AT XMR HOLDERS TODAY LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaIuZkfVgeE&feature=youtu.be

>>57523381
Realistically how are you gonna acquire XMR as it's delisted? Mining seems to be the only option. (Lmao euros at 50ct/kwh)

>>57523968
there's one on jim cramer's forum

>>57524034
You are a fucking retarded nigger monkey. How can you be on this board and not know what a fucking DEX is, is this your first day learning about crypto?

>>57524013
Implying you need to go to dark web to find cp, idiot just search cheeze pizza in the telegram search bar lmao.
nigga for real for real.

I can show you 51519 chinese cp accounts on twitter none bans for years because of language barrier.

I can show you 4929192992 russian and japanese underaged gravure agencies none cares about, all on the clearnet.

>>57524000
I'm the one getting edged/cucked right now.

>>57523953

>>57524053
I'm sure you're a cp expert, and that's cool and all, but XMR is primarily used on dark web marketplaces. You may need to buy a real computer such as a laptop in order to use Tor Browser properly.

anyone buying above 100 needs to kys

>>57523953
Binance was just fined $4.3 billion by the SEC for not "complying with regulation". They fucked around, found out, and are now no longer fucking around. Simple as.

>>57524100
yeah whatever junkie, pussy will forever be more marketable than drugs.

>>57524145
>pussy
has a shorter shelf life than drugs.

>>57524145
>the thing that can be acquired for free both digitally and physically is more marketable than something that can only be bought with money
Sounds legit

>>57523381
It's over.

>>57524145
You've obviously never been the guy who has the drugs. Or the pussy.

>>57524244
This is like a 4 out of 10 mess tops.

>>57524244
終わり だ
two same numbers!

>>57524260
i have your mom's pussy and i stole your estrogen troon pills. so that statement is wrong.

RIP my fucking savings.

>>57524053
weird flex but ok

>volatility in a cryptocurrency
imagine my shock

it's over. commies have won

Lmao. Just want to come in here and laugh at xmr baggies

Fuck it. I'm sticking with Monero anyway. That delisting is the greatest quality mark imaginable.

is the bottom in? is it gonna start to recover now? i bought more

I wonderd what the fuss was about
Turns out it was just a delisting
>whatever.jpg
I guess it's sale again

I didn't want to exit my bitcoin position so close to the halving, but this dip is just too fucking appetizing bros

>>57524514
fuck you nigger... it's people like you that take the food off my familly.

>>57523381
Moonfags bitched out again

I catched the falling knife and transferred to GUI wallet. First XMR buy

>>57524514
kek maximum cope

>>57524511
A delisting in late 2020 / early 2021 was what convinced me monero is the only network I should focus on.

>>57524514
no one knows, the buyer is strong since everyone is fomoing rn, but there're big buy orders at 80 and 65. All it takes is one whale unzipping his pants.
No one knows what happens after 20th, it may be slow bleed or the opposite.
Also, Kraken and Bitfinex can delist it too any moment.

What's the bottom?

>>57524663
>Kraken

>>57524689
no idea, but we better go down more because i can only buy eow

>>57524073
This says literally nothing though, it reads like it was written by an AI.

ok lads when're we getting rich?

I love how when any other coin dumps it's threads of pink jacks. When monero dumps this board lights up with bountiful XMR threads of celebration and seethe.

>>57524760
so hecking based stunning and brave, it's not like KYC by itself is a crime against privacy and they are US based kyc cex and the government can do whatever they want with them.
Now I'm pretty sure it's going to be delisted there very soon and by this post they mean: "buy XMR at our cex while you still can so we can earn some munies on commissions and leverage trading".

so cucken isn't delisting, but bicuck is

>>57524901
>a business wants to make money
>this means it's le bad
Anon, I...

>>57524926
It's been ages since I used Kraken. Quick rundown on how cucked they are in terms of KYC?

>>57524948
eh, I just used my debit card to buy and had a 25 dollar fee, pretty reasonable, but yes I'm kyced hard, but I'm losing my coins in unfortunate boating and hunting accidents

>>57524941
nice strawman bud, I didn't say its bad to make money, I say that the government decides which coins you can or can't buy on cex, not cex and their twitter post doesn't mean it won't get delisted.

>>57524984
This delisting wasn't because of the government, retard.

>>57524926
they came out in support of privacy today. but that privacy will cost you in kyc.

>>57524995
>binance delisted coz deposits something something from transparent addresses only, there's no regulatory pressure at all
fucking autist kys

does localmonero have a p2p buying option, like meeting in person? i can't find it

>>57525000
kraken isnt for privacy. if they were they wouldn't make KYC mandatory. they're basically saying yeah we're for privacy as long as you give up your privacy. monero is finished

>>57525157
using KYC to buy monero doesn't 'give up your privacy'
as long as you aren't a retard (which you are), once you move your XMR to your wallet you can transact privately.

>>57525043
Retard you are literally the person who posted this >>57524073 and it says nothing about "deposits from transparent addresses"

If you are presuming then just say that but don't try to shill pure fucking conjecture as fact.

>>57525157
N-Not like this, Monerosisters... not like this....

wow, sure looks like a lot of you care about the price despite that one high estrogen guy vehemently denying it.
you've only got the compromised or incompetent monero developers to blame, never forget.

>>57525157
woe is you maybe you'll have to actually LOOK for an exchange to buy monero for once in your life. The beat goes on :^)

>what is tradeogre

Heh. Price discovery reigns supreme. Paper monero.

>>57525171
>it says nothing about "deposits from transparent addresses"
picrel, and wtf do you think they shoul've posted in the official announcement? "XMR is too based, so US, EU and Dubai want it banned so we delisting it"?
>If you are presuming then just say that but don't try to shill pure fucking conjecture as fact
>IM ALSO PRESOOOMING RIGHT HERE JUST LOOK >>57524995
good thing that you're a tripfagging attentionwhore so I can hide you, nigger

>>57525292
*wrong picrel

Binance delisting is actually a good thing. People will finally start using XMR and crypto in general the way it was supposed to be used. Exchanges have been kikery from the very beginning.

>>57525326
tsmt
anyone sad about a (((centralized exchange))) delisting XMR probably has a long nose and a little hat

Bullish.

Hail Victory!

>>57524995
>government threatens CEO with jail-time
>CEO avoids jail
>suddenly CEO kowtows to government

>>57524901
privacy literally is a crime in the US. The 4th amendment is dead, you can cope all you want.

>>57524019
catchy song to listen to while i cry at my financial decisions

it hurts so good to destroy more cash

>>57525464
this general needs an automated test for autism, I can't

The orange index of catalog is .030 right now.

Is this the new bagholder general?
I was tired of lurking on /gme/ or /pmg/ it's pretty cringe and always the same shit

>>57525464
>privacy literally is a crime in the US

give me your seed keys than retard. stupid nigger bot fagot

>>57525541
They have banned the export of cryptography in some for or another since the Cold War. It's why OpenBSD was shipped from Canada.

>doing all the safety checks on multiple apps and platforms
sheesh this is a hassle. good thing I only do this when it's really worth it

I bought

>First they ignore you
>Then they laugh at you
>Then they fight you
^^you are here^^
>Then you win

>>57525541
keep coping. Meanwhile the NSA has backdoored all email providers, ISPs, and software companies of note and is hoovering up all traffic on the internet. Banks are required to inform on you, libraries are required to inform on you, and if anyone resists they are gagged with a NSL and arrested if they attempt to speak.

WAKE ME UP INSIDE

>>57525292
the monero twitter account is not run by god and they provided 0 evidence.

You are biblically assmad for no reason.

Just bought 1100. now it'll tank.

>>57525709
>he bought?

>>57525575
Those laws were repealed in the 2000s after Theo left.

JUST

>>57525717
More like the courts struck them down. ITAR still exists and the government can just write a new law saying "well you can use encryption, but failing to turn over your keys makes you a criminal" and it'll take the courts a decade to overturn it again, if ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernstein_v._United_States
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1996-11-19/pdf/96-29692.pdf

>>57525712
classic

>>57525766
I bought a couple at 120 last night because I thought it was the bottom. Oh well.

what kind of stupid nword would sell this much just because muh exchange, you guys think binance is selling people's funds? do people really base their decisions off what exchanges do

the best part is that XMR is off binance, but the perp pair will stay on the exchange like it used to

it's a typical normie trap, let's make some money boys
I used to buy XMR at 60 usd on spot

>>57525893
Awesome. Glad I can still short XMR on Binance then.

>>57524948
same as binance in terms of KYC as far as i remember.
The annoying stuff:
- absolutely retarded login procedure, if you sandbox your browser connection you go through THREE login screens and three mail confirmations, though they've added 2FA so maybe it will be slightly less retarded now
- wire deposits seem to take forever (probably same for other exchanges)
my bank doesn't support instant SEPA so i'll probably miss it as i always did. Aaand i've just gotten a message that my wire transfer is "additionally verified for security reasons"...
i'm considering slurping with BTC actually, fucking banks man.

>>57525766
Still waiting on my $97 buy... it's because of assholes like you that I still haven't bought.

perhaps it's time to finally get my suistack
but what if the price goes lower...

I'd kill for a suicide stack I can't even afford 5 xmr

>>57526020
whether it goes lower, or not, you will still sell it higher. You can always buy lower. If it goes to $60 I double my position. If it goes to $40 i double positions.
Not financial advice.

I just bought 10

>>57523481
>UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.
I'm guessing that was the plan all along?

first fluffpony
now this
what's next?

oof bought at 120$

>darknet market users BTFO
It's almost as if Zephyr solves this

You guys STILL got your fingers in your ears?

>>57526031
How many XMR is a suicide stack?

>>57526221
Except between HODLtards, L2, and people leaving all their shit in exchanges, actual on chain L1 volume is also way lower than it needs to be, which means higher fees, which means lower volume, which means...

>>57526468
16 rope stack
160+ make it stack
1 600 lambo land

I'M SO CLOSE TO A SUISTACK

>moonfags whining about delisting
Ag, if only there was some other way to store value.. it’s on the tip of my tongue..

>>57524525
Is it bottomed?

>>57526934
the rate of retards posting has slowed if that's any way to measure the panic associated.

havent bought xmr for a while. Just grabbed 10 and will keep buying over the next week. Overreaction will be over in a week

Monero is being delisted under pressure from a European regulatory agency.
Monero poses risks to the financial system.
Monero did not fail the mission. Monero WON

>>57527280
>pressure
is this the latest cope?
monero simply became a net negative for binance. too expensive to keep when nobody wants to use it to provide enough fees.

endgame is you might have one centalized exchange left that can sustain enough volume to worth keeping it listed, but as volume continues to die it becomes net negative there too.

>>57523338
This. We're just seeing the redistribution of Monero into the hands of those who actually want to use it.

>>57527455
For like 3 years I've been watching people post about how dastardly Binance is and how their paper trading of monero is blatant, now that they actually fuck off and leave a FAT power vacuum people screech like it's the end of days. This is literally just a replay of January 1st 2021 except on a bigger scale because Binance is a bigger exchange.

>>57527496
Binance is a majority of ALL crypto volume and the price is already recovering elsewhere.

How the he’ll do I get monero as an American now? I can’t get it through kucoin anymore

>>57526481
I bought 18 today. Last time I bought, I got 5 for $199 each and sold for over $400.

>>57527606
Kraken, dummy.

>>57527617
Thank you

>>57527606
did kucoin force kike your customer on everyone now?

>>57527280
You lost holding this piece of shit :D

*shits and farts on XMR baggies*

>>57527638
Yup

>>57527650
I'm already up. I also made money on GME too. Cry more.

>>57527665
The silver lining of all this is that maybe you’ll still be able to afford a few grams of fentanyl with your Monero once it dumps another 50 percent

Btw, for anyone who doesn't know, Kraken delisted XMR years ago in the UK just because the gov told them too, so they're not as pro privacy as you think.

>>57527606
Xeggex.

>>57527773
They're pro privacy but won't risk huge legal trouble you dummy.
The CEO is based but he won't become a criminal just for fun.

thanks to the bozo who helped increase my stack today and last night, ez

delisting has no effect on me because i always bought p2p anyway, i thought everyone did

>>57527897
>he won't become a criminal just for fun.

>>57527963
>i thought everyone did
Today I discovered that there are people who store XMR on exchanges.

>>57527989
i'm an ausfag, even before they delisted it it wouldn't let me actually buy it through the exchanges, maybe it was just my country

>>57527989
Those that store on exchanges are investors, not users.
They're not concerned by the use case of Monero.

realistically how long will it take to recover? we all know xmr isn't going away because it's the preferred currency on all the best darknet markets

>>57528061
less than a week

damp eet

Looks like it's building a floor.

>>57528344
they're just getting your hopes up before they dump it under $100. watch.

>>57524552
try CLI, you'll never go back to GUI

>>57528385
How is it better? I use both the official one and Feather.

>>57528378
based I'll buy more then

>>57528403
and they'll just delist it more and ban it harder. you wont win this.

good riddance to weak garbage. get fucked monero fags.

>>57528411
you eat shit for breakfast lunch and dinner, bootlicker

made a sweet 20% scalp, cheers lads

>>57528411
oh, I didn't know you could ban a p2p network, thanks for the advice, I think I'll just continue buying though

>>57526468
21 btc

>>57527983
>somebody is reasonable
>jcdentonwhatwentwrong.jpeg
I like that meme.

>>57525950
You still trying to time the bottom, tranny?

>tfw bought at 108

>>57528991
Nice. My lowest order was 104.

Whale here, just letting you guys know in advance that I’m dumping at 3:00 AM EST … you should probably set your buy orders for $105

Broke into 4 digits stack today. Thanks for the discount chinks and kikes

>>57528971

You mean to tell me that the shadow economy's crypto of choice isn't in fact dumping to zero and is already starting to recover?!

Who the FUCK could've seen that coming?????????????!!!!!!!!!

------------

Demoralization trolls BTFO. Sorry, faggots, Monero has by now become too much of a neccessity for it it simply fade away. Comfiest coin in crypto.

i guess we're back

>>57529135
I thought you faggots didn't care about the price?

>>57529142
it depends how the price is doing

>>57529142
holy seething mother of god lmao

>>57529157
Typical, it pumps "look guys we were right!!" it dumps "we don't care about moonfags"

is monero the worst cult of all time?

>>57527638
why does that matter when you move it off the exchange anyway. How will they prove you still hold any of it?

>>57527606
changenow, tradeogre, localmonero, suck dicks and get paid in monero, idk.

>FUDfaggots out in force
>already recovering
Don't you faggots have anything better to do?

>>57529171
it's not the same people, you absolute retard

Reminder that Team Monero never bends the knee, never begs for mercy, never compromises on privacy, unlike certain other competitors.....

>>57529284
>requiring "permission" from a (((centralised))) entity to implement features
Kek.

>>57529284
Zec's fullnode wallet hasn't even worked for over a year, it's a joke coin.

>>57529301
I'm sorry, what? Ravencoin is a literally dying project and their fullnode still syncs the chain.

>>57529284
holy fuck they aren't even trying to pretend they're private anymore
https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/important-potential-binance-delisting/45954

>>57529284
she personally sucked their dick as part of the compliance test. Her tongue-game must be good.

>>57529313
>holy fuck they aren't even trying to pretend they're private anymore

Yeah, instead of standing their ground they quickly caved and developed a new compliant address type that is transparent enough to keep Zcash on Binance. Ugh.

>>57529166
>points out hypocrisy
>must be seething

who knew monero holders were this retarded

>>57529306
https://github.com/ZcashFoundation/zecwallet/issues/388
Their response has been to send a literal transvestite to gaslight users.

>>57529357
>price goes down
>you:"hurr durr guys please panic it's over for Monero"
>us (intellectuals):"price don't matter"
>price goes back up
>us (still intellectuals):"see it's back up"
>you:"HUUUUUUUR FAGGOTS HYPOCRITES RETARDS"
>you:"I'm not mad by the way"
lmao

>>57529284
Did Binance really force these faggots to change their protocol? Is this for real? Holy kek

>>57529517
Yes, this is why CZ walked. Funds are not safu.

>>57529457
Kek exactly

daily reminder that all monero fudders are glowies, there is simply no other reasonable explanation for it

>>57529457
"see it's back up" -20%

This really is the coin for midwits

Sirs, I had buyed at 104 american rupees. But I am poor so I did not buy a sufficient amount.

>>57528971
I'll let you tongue my foreskin somewhere between 60-70

>>57529766
glownigger post
nothing glows harder than people trying to downplay, or ignore moneros fundamental privacy flaws, especially when they allow output tracing.

wtf happended?
my massive orders at 50, 60, 80 and 100 did not hit

>>57525602
Still no seed keys.... Keys now or your moms an ugly whore.
Also post ID and forskin with time stamp or your dad is a nigger as well.
Than we might consider your fantasy scenario. First you have to back it up cuckaroo

>>57530441
You got greedy

>>57527444
Checked but XMR actually a use case outside of being a ponzi scheme.
If you haven't figured it out yet you will find out in a few years.

>>57529881
nigger

What the fuck? I'm ruined.

You did slurp that dip yesterday, right anon?

I'm actually surprised the price merely dropped from ~$160 to ~$120 for being delisted from the biggest CEX.

That's actually really surprising and promising. I don't think XMR will pump in the future but will probably gain value very slowly over the decades as CBDC gain foothold and people want more privacy.

>>57530639
Use anal plug and rubber undies. No problem.

>>57530656
I would not be suprised if it 3x, now that the largest naked shorter is delisted, once the fud goes away. Xmr is almost back up in just 24h !

>>57530826
Doesn't fix the huge loss I'm taking today for selling real shit for funny internet money. I'm fucking ruined until it goes up again. Goddamn, fuck.

>>57531043
Shut up bitch. Get a grip.

>>57531043
Please don't cry anon. XMR will be victorious in this battle.

>monero proving once again it's value is not inflatuated
>biggest it took from the worst mpossible course of event is a mere 20% loss, with everyone going crazy to buy it again
>CIAmonkeys on suicide watch
>btcretards still coping and stretching in thread that their entire list of transactions and name and adresses is in the hand of govermental agencies
if anything i see this as nothing but crazy good publicity for monero and it's already mathematically demonstrated proof of concept at work

>price doesn't matter we don't care about the price REEEEE
>price retraces to a mere 23% loss
>price is up everyone oh my god the price is going up look at the price!

>>57531350
nice cope smith

>>57531294
Prohibition by tptb just makes it more desirable.

>>57531043
>Doesn't fix the huge loss I'm taking today for selling real shit for funny internet money
It could be worse anon. Try to stay positive. You have alot of blessings.

https://youtu.be/dkJDAwJ1iN8?si=v4ekel8HBK81CQ4R
https://youtu.be/Pg-r4Rj20TI?si=t3gh4sIun_HquZTr

number went down, it's over bros... government said to wrap up...

>he isn't investing in compliance friendly coins like BTC, ZEC and WLD yet now that XMR is banned

>https://worldcoin.org
>1. Download World App
>2. Verify your humanness
>3. Use World ID Apps

Slurped at 113. Next weeks qp is turning into a hp. Love me' nero

Please comply and verify your humanness with the Orb to buy coins on our exchange. Please understand, it is for privacy.

>The Orb is an imaging device that verifies you are a real and unique person who has not previously received a World ID. It is necessary because it is the only secure way of reliably determining uniqueness and personhood while also preserving privacy. Additional information about the Orb can be found on the Worldcoin blog here.
>Fig. 7
The Orb which verifies a person’s humanness and uniqueness to issue a person’s World ID.

Couldn't even get it to breach $100.

>>57529301
bro what

>>57531439
It's an actual black market now, needing p2p atomic swaps or minor/offshore exchanges to buy in.

>>57532177
anon there are still plenty of centralized exchanges that will sell you monero

>>57530656
>I don't think XMR will pump in the future but will probably gain value very slowly over the decades as CBDC gain foothold and people want more privacy.

i.e. natural, healthy, organic growth. The insane pumps you see in crypto aren't consistent with a fair and rational market. Slow + steady is how sustainable value accrues out in the real world.

>>57531350
lmao why do you keep making the exact same post over and over again?

Nature is already healing. Thank you anons for your kind words.

the new fud is about pedos now.

>>57528344
I was right.

>>57532135
see >>57529363
I wish I were joking
>t. have like $100 in old ZEC I'd like to dump, but can't due to this bug.

>>57532372
it is fucking funny thats why retard

>>57532650
literally every single thing i hear about zec glows holy shit

>>57523381
Should we HATE the Chinks (japs, Chinese specifically?), or the English more for their tyrannical acts of trying to ban Monero? Do they not know it is software that can be deployed to any of their silly devices they carry!

At first, I was sad about the Binance delisting. But now I realize: Do you guys even understand what has just happened?
Due to its widespread adoption, Monero is probably one of the only coins besides Bitcoin that can survive a massive delisting like this. What this means:

>no more paper monero
>no more CEX price manipulation due to coin shortages
>no more futures and widespread degenerate gambling with leverage
>government entities ordered CEX's to stop negotiating Monero, confirming that they can't in fact trace it

Due to the ending of paper Monero and fractional reserves by exchanges, users will have to store ACTUAL monero in their wallets. Banks in a heavily regulated environment are required by law to hold only 8% to 10% of the money their clients have (or 0% since March 15, 2020 if you live in the USA). Binance wasn't required to store anything, and we don't know how much Monero they actually hold. What we knew is that they always had issues with withdrawals, meaning that they didn't hold enough.
Assuming a very conservative estimate that all exchanges have 25% of their users Monero in reserves, that means this delisting could have at least a 4x effect in reducing the supply and consequentially a 4x effect in the price, assuming people just keep using it like normal. This is how we surpass bitcoin.

>>57532749
we are going to $500

>>57532749
> we don't know how much Monero they hold
lmao probably a lot and we are coping here

>>57532749
This is true however at the same time we can hate the tyrannical actions which led to this point of contention. We didn’t start a fight we deployed software. They will lose

>>57532783
>We didn’t start a fight we deployed software.
very based take

>>57523468
Requesting this image of Monero-chan.

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED, HOW DID MY STACK LOST 20% OF ITS VALUE WHILE I WAS SLEEEPING AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>57532980

I buy Bitcoin and send to cake wallet and swap for XMR there. Is there a downside really? It's easy.

brypto charting now btc headed down in the short term today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2lzVtzk7_0

>>57529142
>>57529357
>>57529881
nigger sees a coin he doesn't own dump, spends 12 hours making demoralization FUD posts on a few different IPs, and when it goes back up (which we all said it would) he starts coping
many such cases

>>57533052
lost 20% of its price, its value stayed the same, nothing about the network and protocol changed
>>57533190
>Is there a downside really?
BTC fees. I use LTC for swapping to XMR usually

>>57532749
who sold so much, the only thing I could think of is binance, and why, what was the point of self deleting out of the best coin

seems like big dumb institutions

>>57533548
>binance stops withdrawls
>normies holding XMR on exchange see price dumping and see that it will be delisted
>cant withdraw (and wouldn't anyway) so they sell for stables on binance
>price goes down
>binance later buys more to cover fractional reserve and short positions
>people realize there's no actual reason for the price to be so low so they buy more
>prices goes back up

>>57533439
>lost 20% of its price, its value stayed the same,
Bagholder cope

>>57533629
>crypto is volatile

>>57533616
oh, I guess I didn't figure that people actually hold funds on binance, rookie shit

>>57533689
users hold funds in their wallets, speculators/"""investors""" hold funds in exchanges

>>57533696
I hold some on tradeogre but then again there is no evidence that tradeogre is halting withdrawals or fractional reserve toying with me

it worked pretty well for me, of course the majority is in my wallet and not on to

>>57533439
Value is extrinsic, it's relative to what you can buy with it as determined by price. Now you can buy 20% less.

>>57533760
literally can't buy anything with tainted coins so, still winning

How is zcash when compared to monero in privacy?

>>57533854
see >>57529284
zcash is a fed coin

>>57533863
oh shit, alright

>>57533854
>How is zcash when compared to monero in privacy?

On-chain privacy is currently somewhat better in theory because outputs are also fully shielded. But this sole advantage will evaporate soon once Monero ditches ring signatures for full-chain membership proofs using Bulletproofs+, which rely on more simpler and more battle-tested cryptographic primitives than ZEC's zk-SNARKs.

In any case, the relevant anonymity set is actually much smaller because only like 10% of ZEC TXs are shielded, the rest being fully transparent like BTC. Optional privacy is a fucking joke.

Otherwise, Zcash doesn't auto-shield IP addresses like Monero does, so that potentially identifying data is leaked every time you make a TX.

Also, relying on super-complex moon math = no hardware wallet support for shielded TXs, no multisig either.

And the less said about their submissive compliance cuck corporate culture the better.

>>57524073
I've been out of the loop for the past year, which of these factors even apply to XMR? Response to due diligence requests and negligence? Binance showing their true colors is probably a good thing in the long run.

Just bought more at 132. Meant to buy yesterday but I forgot. :(

>>57532749
what is paper monero? i've being seeing people saying that...

>>57534585
it's when you print it out for offline use

>>57534612

I actually just printed out some XMR for a night on the town.

>>57534585
>what is paper monero?
It's any monero that is sold by exchanges that isn't actually backed by real monero. See pic related.

>>57534696
Fractional reserve has always been a thing with exchanges.

>>57523468
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
Can I make my monero node visible for those who want to transact only via i2p and not clearnet?

>>57533163
Thank you, anon.

I have a solid XMR stack from way back in 2020.

How do I cash this shit out? Seems like no exchanges accept it now. There's a way to exchange it for gift cards right?

>>57535115
Send it to the address of any given based XMR chad, it's going to zero anyway.

>>57535115
there are gift card services yes
https://guides.cakewallet.com/docs/advanced-features/buy-gift-card/
also u can spend it on sites like https://guides.cakewallet.com/docs/advanced-features/buy-gift-card/
or exchange via localmonero

>>57535052
>Can I make my monero node visible for those who want to transact only via i2p and not clearnet?

Yes, that would be very based.

>>57535115
>>57535160
meant to link monero market. xmr bazaar or whatever will launch too soon (2 weeks)

>>57535176
What do I set in my config? I have my node accessible through i2p already, but I assume people can see the clearnet node too.
I have public-node=true and restricted-rpc=true set.

Should i wait for the full delisting later this month to buy?
or maybe wait for the kraken delisting...
i want the deepest dip i can get. getting those cheap xmr from the hands of scared moonfags is one of my greatest pleasures.

>>57534076
Know anything about Zephyr?

>>57535243
>I assume people can see the clearnet node too.

I2P isn't like Tor, its isolated from the clearnet by default.

https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/node-i2p-zero.html

>>57535405
>>Know anything about Zephyr?

its hard to keep track of all these jeetcoins.

>>57535436
I was wondering if the node itself is accessible via clearnet to crawlers/other peers. Seems like it's not since I tried to connect to my ip and it fails.

>>57535269
Kraken seems too based to actually delist desu I bet they will go to court over xmr if they have to. Kucoin will just ignore the feds probably lol.

>>57535560

Great, so it works!

You might want to consider writing a short tutorial explaining how you set everything up so other anons can follow your lead, the more darknet Monero nodes we have available the better.

>>57523406
Slurping xmr, fk yeah

>>57535710
I just followed these tutorials.
https://landchad.net/monerod/
https://landchad.net/i2p/

>>57535115
>gift cards
coincards
coinsbee

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>>57535269
Unfathomably based