/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57492453
>>57493083
I agree. I expect more turmoil before a large financial event. An October surprise or china and Taiwan finally popping off. Its too quiet to be given millions right now

Bad sign that this thread regularly falls out of the catalog now.

>>57495039
>archived <5 hours
What, you stayed up all night and tirelessly slid a mongolese throat singing forum? I'm not even mad; that's amazing.

Why did the previous thread get archived at 241 with no explicit change/link to new thread? Sliding the 800 page sec doc?

>>57494993
Thanks for baking fren

>>57495025
I’ve always been of the mind that it’d be relatively sudden/unprompted except for maybe a few autists who see through the script. They don’t want to risk further streisanding the idea of a crash where jimmy, Bobby, etc may be something of an ark. I would also think they’d prefer to give holders as little heads up/insight as possible in order to stunt their gains. It’s interesting to imagine it during an election year. If it happens before, how will it frame Biden? Will he be blamed for the crash? Will he be heralded for enacting justice? He’s incumbent yes but even the recent tswift astroturfing/framing suggests that they’d rather make it “swift v trump” over Biden because they know he’s so unlikable. One thing I could see is trump winning and them doing it pretty a quickly before or after. I’m not even involved/caring for us politics but this is clown world and frankly trump has the branding wherein such an event can happen without too much social outcry/backlash. People who missed out won’t cry to him like they would to Biden.

>>57495371
What was on the sec doc? Got a tldr on any pertinent info?

>>57495443
Everything you have witnessed from the past ~5 years relates to q/trump whether you believe in it or not. Biden's presidency serves the purpose of waking people up to everything being fake and gay

>>57495371
It was Ken griffin I bet. He’s a mod here you know

Astro fag here.
The Uranus (sudden) Jupiter (expansion) conjunction (merging of energies) in Taurus (money, resources) will go exact on April 20/21 (depending on timezone). If I had to make a bet on when we will see major action, it would be the week leading up to the conjunction. Usually this aspect marks a sudden and unexpected gain of some sort. Make with that what you will.

>>57495759
With as much as he cries about us on X, I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to personally moderate here. It would unironically work better than rolling in the mud like he does.

The algorithms picked up on the death spiral financing that was sold to a benign participant. The shorts were DESPERATE to prevent the company from orchestating a turn around and so they jumped the shark and tried to pull the price BELOW the exercise price of the warrants to almost "force" them into exercising them in order to bail themselves out.
It's actually a pretty amazing story. Hudson Bay even gave BBBY a reprieve on the share price and the shorts began shorting even harder!
That was a dangerous miscalculation that was all unfolding even before they knew about the imminent bankruptcy with the DIP financing already planned well in advance.
They were dead before they even knew it. Virtu Financial - created by Vinny Viola and current CEO Doug Cifu are seething because their algos got baited. They were like a helpless moth flying directly into a bug zapper. The algo is likely programmed and fast enough to act quickly and they went spelunking in an underwater cave with no way to turn around. All they can do is go further into that deep, dark underwater cavern that will become their grave.

WAGMI in 6 month

>>57497335
And when you don’t?

>>57495371
>>57495727
Prime Brokers Dealers/Family Office/Major Hedge Funds Member confession and admissions from court documents submitted September 2023:
>“…I and others executed trades that allowed the fund to amass market power and certain securities traded on U.S. exchanges. Archegos used security-based swaps to gain exposure to these securities while concealing the true size of the fund’s positions from the market and our trading counterparties. Once Archegos gained market power in these securities, I and others used this power to trade in such a way as to artificially manipulate the prices of the securities. Acting at the direction of the head of the fund [Hwang], I traded to increase the prices of names in which Archegos held long positions and reduced the prices of securities in which the fund hel[d] short positions. I did this by, for example, buying large amounts of a stock when the price dropped in response to negative news or trading premarket when I knew the fund’s activity would have a greater impact on price. I manipulated the prices of these securities in order to influence others in the market to buy or sell the securities in ways that would benefit Archegos’[s] key positions and increase Archegos’[s] purchasing power through variation margin.” “each were told the same thing: If you don't like this decision, you could take your business elsewhere. That is what all of the prime brokers told the hedge funds”

Source: https://www.sec.gov/comments/s7-11-23/s71123-typec.pdf

Kek slidies

this is just getting (bed, bath&) beyond sad at this point

reminder that the fraud investigation is a collective hallucination with no evidence

>>57497408
Not your problem

>>57497687
Reminder that the sequence and speed of events in this bankruptcy are unprecedented. Shills continue to shamble.

>>57495755
Checked. How do the past 5 years relate to trump/q in relation to moass or at the very least gme/bbby? I understand the purported basics but not as it relates to this facet of business and finance.
>inb4 trolling/sliding/shilling etc
It’s Saturday, ch 11 is still unfolding until late feb regardless, and it’s relevant info to hear all good faith peripheral perspectives offered on what’s going on with the investment that is the subject of the thread.

>>57495755
Ok. And yet they are responsible for the vaccine which may wipe out all human life via prions.

how buy shitcoin bbbyq

>>57498365

Kek ex-baggies can’t even post their nonexistent stacks

>>57494993
Kek baggies

Holly Etlin appeared on a restructuring roundtable on 12/15/23 and made a HIGHLY interesting statement around $BBBYQ

She states we saw a situation in Bed Bath & Beyond,
where the Asset Backed Loan (ABL) caused issues
where the commitment to buy inventory wasn't fulfilled and for the Christmas season and ultimately this affects the ability to repay loans.

Holly Etlin also states the FILO (Sixth Street) is still looking for recovery there and that hasn't happened in retail for a long time except from fraud cases

This is interesting as she indirectly confirms our speculation that Bed Bath & Beyond was targeted by predatory lenders like JPMorgan and with all of the Ponzi/Rico lawyers we have discussed, Michael Goldberg, Elise Frejka and Nick Lewin that an ongoing investigation is taking place and that the Chapter 11 was a necessity tool utilized to pay JPMorgan off early and begin proceedings against them.

Strategic with purpose and intent since day one.

>>57499027
Yea whatever retard. Come back when your imaginary shares are worth something.

>The thread archived again
kek baggies

>>57497611

July 2nd 2024

>>57498998
>>57499007
>>57499138

>>57499776
This comic literally kills the shills.

>>57497611
Observed

>https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1ahuip4/the_golden_treasure_100_proof_apes_get_paid/
I’m thinking WAGMI

My floor price just went up

>>57500733
>>57500741
>MMTLP

>>57500733
Checked and our financial system is so broken it kind of makes me antisemitic pilled.

>>57500733
More schizo shit. Once shares are canceled that's it you aren't getting your money back. You can't uncancel shares and reopen short positions. There is no mechanism in the stock market to even do this.

>>57500962
Thank you for reminding us all of this every thread. You seem oddly interested in this matter, you should goto the knitting forums and warn them of what is and isn’t possible to knit due to mathematical topological constraints.

>>57500988
I need to remind you idiots because you think you will be getting money back. You aren't.

i just hope RC didn't embarrass himself spectacularly while ruining us in the process. RC and pulte seemingly encouraged us to hold to zero and pulte is acting like he did us a huge favor?? this entire situation is ridiculous. what's the moral of the story supposed to be if it we don't make it, that the wall street crooks can get away with anything

>>57501157
Yes.
I know it's hard for an adult reddit baby to comprehend
But it do be like that

>>57500962

>>57500962
Shares weren't cancelled. They were halted and removed from the brokerages for a complete audit due to a fraud investigation that will fill our coffers beyond our wildest dreams because $15BN will be paid to 117M shareholders. The brokers will only be issued enough cash to disburse amongst the real shares. This will leave the brokers on the hook for the shortfall as there are more synthetic longs. And the only was those longs are in existence is due to the shorts. So any short positions will pay out those funds to reimburse the market maker as you can only short sell by having a margin account. Short sellers will get margin called in the pre market and that will be the day this all kicks off.

>Shillies lurking these threads pretending they don't have to control the narrative on weekends for a stock they don't own.

>>57501101
I'm not getting my money back. I'm getting SIX MILLION DOLLARS.

>>57502932
may we see it?

>>57503194
Once CH11 BK suit resolves I'm sure you'll know all about it. You won't give us the privilege of gloating before you jump though. Meanie.
>>57502932

Baggot digs up an update to another tangentially related case. Surely no grifter is going to intentionally misinterpret it and sell it as the newest cope to the bbbaggots.

>>57502724
You don't own it, either.

If anyone wants to enjoy some spicy DD just go read this: Another stock ticker blew up and a very serious legal battle is raging right now regarding real shares.
This is a little window in to the future.
I will be DRSing a very large tranche of my GME shares tomorrow.

>>57503549
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1ahuip4/the_golden_treasure_100_proof_apes_get_paid/

Oops, forgot the link

What is the Atari connection?

>>57501157
>i just hope RC didn't embarrass himself spectacularly while ruining us in the process.
He didn't. He sold, told you why he sold, filed forms that disclosed his sale, and filed court documents under penalty of perjury that he no longer holds any interest in the (former) company, which has since been liquidated.
>RC and pulte seemingly encouraged us to hold to zero and pulte is acting like he did us a huge favor??
Cohen didn't (see above) and Pulte was and still is a massive faggot and failson grifter.
>this entire situation is ridiculous. what's the moral of the story supposed to be if it we don't make it, that the wall street crooks can get away with anything
The moral is not to fall for psyops and distractions. There is but one (1) ticker and its name is GME.

>>57503800
See this post:
>>57500988

>https://www.reddit.com/r/Teddy/comments/1aisawm/buckle_the_fuck_up/
Bruno is now very confident in feb 14 happening with official announcement shortly after

>he's linking to his own comment now
Big yikes. Sorry to spoil the narrative that "RC has betrayed, I'm selling GME now!" that I'm sure you will be pushing when distraction fags get nothing.

>57504093
He doesn't even know what makes him glow

>>57501157
This. The idea that my investment won't moon after Cohen staked his reputation to it is ludicrous. He might not be able to talk about it openly (probably an NDA stopping him), but it's clear to anyone with any sense what he's hinting at with his tweets. There's no way he'd be able to brush it under the rug if it doesn't pan out, he'd never be able to escape the stain to his legacy caused from all of us loyal investors losing everything based upon his thinly veiled investment advice. I made a sensible decision in assuming that he's a man of commitment and drive, and staking my life savings on the hope that he's got a plan that will set this corrupt system aflame. I'm happy with the twists and turns that have followed my decision, and still have the utmost confidence that Cohen will have my back in the end. After all, it's not like I was retarded enough to stake my financial future on the hope that he'd pump a stock that he'd already sold, disavowed, and stated in court that it's a terrible investment that no longer exists, I'm all in on dogshit.

>>57504490
You almost nailed it. I miss OG dogshit anon.

>>57504591
Show some respect to your betters (in terms of investing acumen at least), the name's dogshit fucking value. I've been meaning to visit here more, but frankly I've started to lose faith in this community. I'd heard that this was a group of people who could probably be talked into investing in dogshit, but you continue to disappoint me. Not only are you all too stupid to invest in dogshit, but now you're all too poor to afford a pile of stinking turds (having lost your life savings in a bankrupt towel retailer). Nevertheless, I bless you with my presence again for the thin glimmer of hope that someone here is smart enough to give up on their get rich quick scheme and put their next paycheck into something more likely to maintain some value long term. How about it champ, have you considered putting at least one turd on your mantelpiece? That way (unlike everyone else itt) you'll actually have something to leave to your children.

>>57502213
It was canceled, this was in the bankruptcy documents. There are no longer any short positions because of this.

Folks tune into 60 minutes tonight.

Powell is going to drop a bombshell on all shills

What the fuck are you faggots still doing here?

>>57504940
I enjoy watching you cry

>>57504929
But have you considered, perchance, if you neglected to nourish yourself properly in the morning?

>>57504926
>>57505118
Misclick. Breakfast question was aimed at the brown poster.

uh oh shills are pretending to talk amongst themselves. The reality is that this can be delayed for quite some time. One of the best methods of demoralization is constant hyping when you know that nothing will happen in that immediate timeframe. Idk if bruno is a shill or not, ive literally never watched the PP show, although I figure based on the sillyshilly responses that it does produce content that upsets the entrenched wallstreet players.

Stay healthy and vigilant, be prepared to wait out for many more months, it is an election year after all. They can literally turn off trading for a significant portion of retail, so they can definitely throw wrenches into the legal process currently underway by RC and frens.

shills are payed to be here, and many shills also are sleepers (acting as double agents appearing as though they are holders, and after blending in for very long, start to deviate and poison the narrative and talking points to favor wallstreet). This can cause a lot of holders to become worried that the "eceleb" they looked up to is know having doubts so this demoralization and information ecosystem can create distress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

>>57505225
Based cointelproster

>>57505225
so do you guys hear voices in your head or what?

>>57505315
Yes, they're my thoughts
I wouldn't expect you to understand

>>57505225
>and after blending in for very long
for a very long time.

>the "eceleb" they looked up to is know having doubts
now, not know

holy fuck I butchered that.

Also ken griffin has a former presidential secret service body guard, because he is ratting out the hedge funds and market makers as we speak and he needs to be protected. The banks and the truly powerful instituions will survive and become even larger, but the underlings (ken, dougshit and frens) are going to be thrown under the bus to convince the people that 'justice' has been done here.

>>57505340
Lower IQ is heavily correlated to not having a voice inside your head. If a shill calls you schizophrenic it’s highly likely they can’t visualize an image in their head or hear a voice when they think. They mistake normal human functions for mental illness because it’s so unbelievable to them.

>>57505388
I appreciate you anon

>>57505340
I was just curious if you had hallucinations in addition to your severe apophenia, delusions, and magical thinking.

So do you hold down a job? Or collect disability, or what? How do insane people make a living aside from losing wads of cash on the stock market?

>>57505475
Yes, I live in my parents basement while collecting neetbux, I am a 300 pound 40-year-old neckbeard virgin who hasn't been outside for years and I am autistic and suicidal.
Every stereotype you have for me is true anon. You were right all along. You've always been right. Everyone that bought this stock is exactly like me, and everyone who hasn't is clearly a better person because of it. You got me, and everyone in this thread anon.

Well done, we were all rooting for you.

>>57505543
whatever. I don't hold any stereotypes about people from reddit that put a lot of money into the stock market. That's probably not possible on disability, so I'm curious how you do it.

>>57505475
I’m a relatively famous actor.
>degenerate
Started buying in a bit before the sag strike last year. I imagine there’s a diverse group of anons in here.

>>57503560
Linking for visibility; don't let shills d/c with their whining about it being a faggy site/sub or a different ticker. It is absolutely pertinent to us and the broader market as a whole. Good DD is good, and it's worth a read/listen.

>>57505579
>I’m a relatively famous actor.
that's pretty freakin cool.
>I imagine there’s a diverse group of anons in here
sure, but I imagine very few of them are employed in a traditional sense. Or if they are, they'd perhaps labor in trades or other work where being a bit nuts isn't as noticeable.

>>57505613
>I am afraid hedgecucks are making a dossier of holders to target and will not share my personal information
I am schizophrenic too

I accept the fraud payment from jpm in the amount of $45 per former share of bbby. Please pay up now posthaste. Chop chop. Now please. Get to it. I will wait no longer. Administer the funds into my account. This is my demand.

>>57505631
paranoia isn't necessarily schizophrenic, but I'd guess the belief in the evil hedgecucks is delusional.

the truth is probably much worse. The hedge funds harvested your money and never thought about you again.

>>57505579
>I’m a relatively famous actor.
That's pretty cool, I sometimes pretend to be someone else as well. Sometimes I like to roleplay as the worst investor in the world. I pretend that I'd lost my life savings by being retarded enough to invest in a bankrupt towel retailer. When I break character, and remember that I was smart enough to go all in on dogshit instead, it really makes me feel good about my decision making.

>>57505698
Good, I will live my life on these threads until I die of poverty while cursing the day I didn't listen to these nice anons who went out of their way to warn me of my investments for months. Someday I may come to my senses and file the loss as a tax write off like they wanted me to. You have truly done a thankless and selfless act , I'm sure I'll see the light soon.

>>57505809
I'm not trying to help you, that's impossible.
I'm trying to understand what went wrong.

>>57505809
Also I'm no tax expert, but I doubt most people here can write off the loss on their taxes. I'd guess most of you don't make enough money to itemize deductions, can only take $2k off your gross income, and probably didn't invest that much.

feel free to prove me wrong though, I love loss porn.

>>57505891
>>57505907
We are beyond your comprehension. We have ascended to a state of retardation so extreme it has circled us back around to being smart again. You cannot see it, because you have not opened your third eye. Only those who have can transcribe esoteric tweets from a billionaire Jew. Tax does not apply to us, because we are baggies and make negative money. Normies fear us.

>>57505927

>>57505953
It's not dementia, its wisdom.

The disparity between this quiet weekend and the new contract newfag brown brigade that will be back tomorrow is going to be jarring.

>>57506048
when it feels like a chore keeping your general bumped you're very near the end

>>57506154
>Be Gone Tranny Shill ID
Fuck lmao

I'm starting to think that the brazen behavior of the shorts is basically akin to a criminal who killed someone who is being pursued by the cops and decides to just go on a crime spree. The shorting of BBBY was extremely aggressive. The stock was literally squeezing 120% in a single day on February 6th before it began the barcode algorithm. (Virtu financial is a major HFT firm). Apparently MMTLP was unfolding in December 2022. I'm sorry, but this is all related to GME. MMTLP is a literal microcosm that is expected to unfold. They all knew they were royally fucked and were desperate to find more victim companies to steal and they needed them FAST. Have you ever played chess where you are literally down to 5 seconds left on the clock and all you can do is make ANY move just to stay alive. Half the time you can blunder your queen or your rooks but it doesn't matter so long as you still have a fraction of a second left on the timer you can keep the game going for one more move. Like KG said back when he survived 2008. All you need to do is survive one more day.
That is what is going on here.
I have suspected for a long time that this is such an embarrassment for the Feds, SEC and Wallstreet that they would probably prefer to shut Citadel down BEFORE the ponzi blows up. But in this case it has only been made worse which begs the question: can these guys even survive covering anything? Just look at Citadel's balance sheet. That leveraged dumpsterfire only moves in ONE direction. They steal your money and only wanted to give you a journal entry in return.
But you can't just leave these shorts open. So now we have to contend with the entirety of DTCC getting blown the fuck out. I think the pragmatic solution will be that we get a massive payout and no squeeze. BBBYQ is probably so ruined that they literally can't close it. It's like a condemned house that just needs to be bulldozed. GME? Now THAT is a big fucking problem they can't deal with.

>>57506778
Yea I’ve wondered about this for some time. A squeeze is going to cause devastation and I wonder if fbi/federal regulators have actually sat down with rc and friends saying they legally can’t stop you from performing a restructuring, but doing this would literally blow the system up, so let’s be pragmatic and try to find a solution.

As for gme, that will probably Tesla squeeze for years and people who continue to hold will be fuckn rich as fuck.

Either way if retail continues to hold the system continues to strain and buckle. They also are trying to demoralizing by hyping dates, this could easily push into the fall considering they can delay a lot with all sorts of bs reasons that wouldn’t even be publicly known due to all the ndas anyway.

Basically be weary of all this date hyping. There is no reasonable way rc and friends could have dates planned for Feb 2024 that were selected years ago, they push this crap so people get more demoralized and frustrated, so that when we get new equity/payout people sell early because of how relived they will be.

Shills in shambles and many wallstreeters will commit suicide when the big crash happens.

It's all so tiresome

>>57507426
Agreed, faggots with empty bags and delusions of grandeur mixed with Jew scammers trying to bilk what little cash they can from these retards.

In all fields baggots

the dorkwads that run the legal/financial system do what they believe is technically right or what benefits themselves but not what is morally right for the victims
if we don't get made whole there should be some kind of revolution
pulte (who i believe speaks for RC in a sense) has made comparisons to occupy wall street and the 2020 election aftermath

>>57507965
>call to action
>jan.6 mentioned
not your personal army glowfaggot

>>57507991
>2 more weeks
>trust the plan
sneed
>You know, there were some things around the 2020 election which were admirable that were in public. I'm talking about the peaceful nonviolent stuff, of course, where people came together. There were protests. Occupy Wall Street. People came around. Whether you disagreed with the thesis, whether you agreed with it, people came together in the physical flesh. This is another moment like this. So to everybody who has doubted us, everybody who has not stood up for us, everybody who has continued to make me beg, no more begging. The bus has left, and you are gone. But we are together, and the future is bright. Atlanta is coming. That 351 people RSVP'd to it. We had 250 people pay 500 bucks each to come to our event in Florida. Barely covered the expenses. I was happy to cover the expenses.
>But the future is bright. The sun is rising. And the question is, are you going to be a part of it or not? I'm not asking you anymore. I'm just telling you where it's going.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Teddy/comments/19cql94/wild_card_transcript_pulte_whats_next/

>>57506374
Oof, ya killed it.
>42%

>>57508168
I laughed a little at schizos engaged in ID apophenia and divination.

like pottery.

Where do you trade shares of a company that doesn't exist? Asking for a friend