/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57489102
Stock PE ratio reached another high outside the Lehman and Covid crashes
https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-pe-ratio

That's another Biden win!

What are you guys gonna do when you make it?

>CHINA
>OIL
>NATGAS

https://youtu.be/_siJRgDlddY?t=160

>>57493562
shit will crash and burn soon but im thinking march-april after earnings season. my prediciton for next week is SPY 5000 until tuesday, then the decline begins, but slowly wihle NVDA still pumps into earnings, then dumps and causing a 2nd GFC

$NET cloudflare, patriots are in power, trust the process

>>57493801
Interesting question... Very hard to answer for me, we'll just have to wait and see.

Thoughts about the Volkswagen preference stock?

>>57493842
I have a VW, I'd buy the stock if it goes sub €90.

heres your 350k McJobs, bro

>>57493842
Whats up with that?

>>57493817
Im so tempted to short NVidia, luckily I havent done it yet.

>>57493817
Buffet indicator is also going up to its highs.

https://www.longtermtrends.net/market-cap-to-gdp-the-buffett-indicator/

>>57493933
>Im so tempted to short NVidia, luckily I havent done it yet.
Don't even try to do it. I was tempted to short it at ~290$, I would have been fucked if I did.

>>57493821
asians evolving into greys in real time

>>57493891
>if you ignore most job growth there's barely any job growth

>>57493817
Nvidia to 5 trillion EOY. You heard it here first folks. No i don't have a leather jacket.

>>57494010
Probably not this year but in the next 10 years very likely.
Trillion dollar companys will become more common this decade.

>>57494010
Why?

>>57493971
>guberment spending to mask how bad shit is until elections is a good thing

>>57493596
Indians? Aren’t they all alcoholics and slowly die out

What are you buying on Monday open?

>>57494210
XOM
>XOM
XOM
>XOM
XOM
>XOM
XOM
>XOM
XOM
>XOM

if during your research you don't think "it's going to double from here," you don't buy it.
it's that simple.

>>57494210

SPA35

I went to Madrid the other week and every spanish girl was hot as fuck.

>>57493562
>stocks at record high overvaluations
>>57494317
>people delusional their stocks will double from here

the top is in

>>57494405
lol, lmao. spanish women are freaks and the last time i plowed one my balls were aching and i trew up in her bathroom. never again.

>>57493801
Get myself a trailer van and go on a pilgrimage to Macau.

>>57494210
more MUFG

What are you going to tell your future kids when they ask you why you decided to baghold and not short the most obvious bubble in stock market history?

>>57493801
I thought about this and got depressed for 3 days, it seems that the grind is the end goal

>>57494606
that I am a pussy

>>57493801
More stocks, except focusing more on quality and less on growth. The best situation would be if I could get a living wage out of dividends while maintaining upside through speculation/growth

How can I profit MORE from Bobo's stupidity?

>>57493508
everyone obsesses with these jobs reports, but is there more granularity to these data?
How do I slice by type of job?
Do they even track the average salary of these jobs?

I'm pretty sure most of these are just people taking a second part time.

Can we at least compare the avg salary of these new jobs to the avg salary in the whole economy?

low unemployment doesn't mean much when you have low labor participation and people on welfare.

>>57494699
Just by 2 or 3x leveraged spy or qqq

>>57494640
Milk.

>>57494699
where have I seen this face before? 90% sure it's from some doujin

>>57493817
>>57494606
I agree that stocks are overpriced, but the fact that lots of people think like this scares me off shorting the market. There's still a lot of room for dead cat bounces and therefore for Bobos to get absolutely assfucked.

Does it even matter if the market crashes by 50%? Anyone with two braincells and even the tardy ones had everything to more than make up for it since the late October rally.

I wish I had Homelander powers I would power slide around the earth at Mach 700 snapping the necks of every last kike and then grab the cutest Japanese 7th grader I can find and build a home hidden in the forest and live there with her; she will spend 99% of the following 30 years of her life pregnant.

>>57494750
Here's the red candle you wanted so much anon

>>57494222
Checked and Based

>>57494851
The amount of killing in the USA today isn't consistent with the norms in the Bible.

>was gooning to porn yesterday and missed the 15 min SPY mega pump
Porn cost me several thousand yesterday. Very sad. Sad coom in hindsight

>>57494889
how much XOM do you own anon

>>57494853
Imagine that red candle on the XOM chart... I'm aroused just thinking about it.

Mumus how do we cope with this graph it's been on my mind for days

>>57495111
Good thing biden economists declared old rules dont apply to recessions while he's Resident or we would be in trouble

>>57495111
like the asteroid that killed the zionists

>>57495111
Zoom out to 1970-1980?

>>57495111
robbing peter to pay saul: endgame

>>57495111
I trade the chart, the trend, not the fundamentals or narrative

Is collecting a complete NES collection a good stock market investment? I have a void in my life that old plastic might be able to fill.

>>57495111
I cry.

>>57495065
8 shares im really proud of myself for saving up and investing in a company I trust. I’m planning on buying more when funds allow.

>>57495169
anon's poorfolio a cute. CUTE!!

Another day. Sipping some coffee and trying to relax after finding out upon waking that the cat who had the surgery got his cone off during the night. He didn't damage the surgery site though and I put the cone back on him. He's doing pretty good all things considered. Just 12 days till E-Trade punts out the 1099's and I finally file my taxes. Glorious fat refund awaits. Part of it will be going to pay off the vet bill; bit over $1,000. (But it's worth it, poor guy feels better and this is the first time either cat has had to go to the vet in all the year's we've had them)

>futures

>>57495111
We're in for some bad times.

>>57495194
What's a worse play then, holding stocks or holding cash? I'll just do the least bad of the two.

>>57495192
futures dont open until 6pm Sunday

Retarded question from someone who always steered clear of anything bond related. If I buy into a treasury bond ETF, does the monthly distribution stay the same even if the value of the ETF itself changes, assuming no changes are made to the composition of the ETF?

I know the composition always changes but I'm trying to understand how it works.

>>57495220
Cashing out is better right now imo. It might take a long time for a crash to happen though, and there is the possibility that the mumus are right and there is no bubble. There's no real precedent for the situation we're in right now.

>>57495227
I dont understand the confusion. Bond ETFs like TFLO purchase bonds that have a specifc interest rate. Whatever it is they pass on to you except for their 0.15% fee. Thats all there is to it.

>>57495238
Thats why my question was retarded: I didn't understand if the interest paid changed if the value of the ETF itself changed because of rate hikes or w/e. Thanks bud

>>57495227
Yes. Yield on cost
- ADT GANG

>>57495250
Thanks fren, just checking really.

>>57495169
YGMI.

>>57495222
Weekend futures?

>>57495237
>this time is different
>but unironically
this is mentally taxing

Remember to trade the Israeli market tomorrow.

whats the projected spy eoy price

>>57495273
$19.50

>>57495276
Realistic.

>>57495189
You are getting a fat refund? Don’t you already work for the government? I’ve been adding things to my tax forms as they come in and I’m barely scratching anything back.

>>57495111
Yield curve inversions aren't the cause of recessions. They happen when there are bad economic signs and show the bond market expects the Fed to cut rates to help the economy. It is different this time because it's a prediction that the Fed will cut rates and keep them low over the long term.

>>57495308
Yeah I work for a state govt. I'm also married. So that changes things. For instance the standard deduction goes up and I pay zero tax on my brokerage account holdings. Jointly our taxable income has to exceed uh I think $90,000 a year before the brokerage account is subject to any tax.

>>57495176
>>57495257
Thanks bros

>>57493562
>>57493941
Even if it's painful, one year millennials and zoomers will learn about the importance of fundamentals.
>pe ratio of the s&p is 26.91
>inverse that to get the earnings yield of 3.72%
>subtract the market priced in ten year inflation rate of 2.21% (lol its never been this low ever over 10 years)
>it gives you a real equity return of 1.51%
>but the 10 year tips bond is 1.81%
>subtract this risk less real return from the real equity return and you get -0.3%
The equity premium is fucking negative. Now compare that to the global pe ratio. Which you can get by holding international stocks mixed in, or a global equity stock etf like VT which the boomer bogleheads love so much
>pe ratio of only 16.5
>earnings yield of 6.06%
>subtracting the expected 10 year inflation rate and the risk free yield
>this gets you an equity premium of 2.04%
And I agree that there is time to scoff at international. But the only time the pe ratio of the s&p 500 has been this high has been 1) covid crash 2) financial crisis 3) dot com boom

>>57495330
Due to making shat a year salary wise and was living on very tight budget in his younger years I got used to it. So as my salary increased and what not (paying puny house payment, no car payments, no student loans), more of the salary increases got dumped into my 401k. Which that amount doesn't count as taxable income. So it lowers it.

>>57495111
It hasn't uninverted, when it uninverts that's when you so be worried

>>57494010
NVDA is bitcoin now

>>57495350
>>pe ratio of the s&p is 26.91
>>inverse that to get the earnings yield of 3.72%
1/26.91=0.03377 so it's actually slightly worse

Forgot how good wine is. Tell me some good wine stocks /smg/.

>>57494454
you're buying the wrong stocks.
i have several that have doubled or nearly doubled in the past 3 years.
even doubling in 5 years is a win.
if it can't do that, you shouldn't even buy it. something else will, and you haven't found it yet, and even if it takes you an entire year to find it you still win.

>>57495169
I'm proud of you too anon, I own 0 shares and I'm waiting for XOM to go on a discount so I can buy some

>>57495431
Now do the emerging market with a pe ratio of 8 lol

>>57495189
>punts out the 1099's and I finally file my taxes
you should have it by now. fidelity had mine all last week.
>>57495308
im getting 14k refund but im 1099 so i never really know my income.

>>57495330
Why is it that being married entitles you to paying less taxes? I thought that in the US the so called "singles tax" was a widely known and reported subject.

I think we’ll need to have the conversation, potentially led by the NBER, that the recession already happened. They will back date it to the two negative GDP prints in 2022 and that we are in the recovery phase. Any economic turmoil will be likened to 2011 and “ticker tape tantrums”. The market needs to reconcile how so much of the S&P is reporting negative conditions while the Mag 7 is providing covering fire on the top level.

>>57495461
govt wants more fuck cattle slave peasants so they encourage you to pair up and create human capital for them

>>57495459
But I don't really see the point. I've had $5k or so in an emerging markets fund for half a year and my return has been about neutral factoring in dividends while my QQQ has increased 16% in the same time. Are you saying that over long term the yield will be 12.5% from the EM (1/8) and 3.2% from QQQ (1/31.15)?

>>57495461
consider for a moment the risk/reward of marriages an their rate of failure
the union has to offer something other than being a roastie retirement program

>>57495494
nah sometimes the p/e is bad because the stocks themselves are bad. low p/e is not a guarantee you're getting a good value. Some stocks even have negative p/e and you'd be holding bags if you invested in them. Emerging markets will remain a meme imo.

>>57495473
what´s really going to happen is that breweries, delivery companies and every other sector will start saying

>look at muh AI, it´s making desk jobs easier and allowing us to use up less workers

and within our lifetimes you won´t even be able to tell human from bot in real life either.

>>57495485
>>57495503

yeah, but how do i protect myself from it? i don´t want to get just some girl for the sake of paying less taxes, it´s a highway into being sad and poor

Is this the last year of America? The consequences of the Biden economy will come to fruition very quickly when he leaves office, so it's either this election cycle or in 4 years. I mean, the chickens will certainly come home to roost under a new regime right? The new regime would literally have no choice but to do what the Biden administration did, any divergence would be doom. All we can do is keep kicking the can down the road until one day the road ends?

>>57495503
suppose i was an US citizen, could i just place an add on craigslist in spanish to get a mexican wife just for the sake of tax exemptions and i would never have to see her again?

>>57495511
the tax break does not justify exposing yourself to females, it's just a standard deduction, it's not going to make or break you. Of course they could tax singles harder in the future to try to fight secular decline but for now it's literally nothing.

>>57495459
I see some companies in SA and SEAE with P/E's ranging from 4-6.
>>57495494
You don't see the point now but you'll see the point once the FED does QE again.

>>57495461
>>57495485
>>57495494
the assumption is that kids cost money and/or your wife costs money and doesnt work.

>>57495504
>nah sometimes the p/e is bad because the stocks themselves are bad. l
True but not the stocks I'm seeing they've tripled EPS in the last decade but the stock price is the same, thus you get the really low P/E's. And yes EPS adjusted for forex loses.

>>57495521
>>57495531

first time i heard of it was about it´s effects in Ohio or some other US state during the european migrations towards California of the late 19th century, then i knew about Mussolini´s Italy and even the summerians did that 3000 years ago. every single time it leads to man (and now women) to save up less money in their early adult life, and as a consequence they move out later, marry later, start having kids later. it´s almost as bad as consumption taxes

>>57495461
Ok. if your single your brokerage account is slapped with tax if income is over 40k. Since I'm married it's only slapped with tax if income goes over 90k. So that brokerage account could grow to fuck huge amount and still I'd pay zero tax on it. Even after I retire and start pulling RMD's from my 401k long as my taxable income does not exceed 90k a year then the brokerage account will not be taxed. Now consider this; I live in low col state. Uh I won't need hell even 60k a year even in retirement to do what I want to do. So say my yearly RMD is 70k. Pension payout covers let's say 30k a year. 401k RMD supplies other 30k. Leaving 40k of the 70k RMD there for what have you. What do? Hello brokerage account (which is not taxed). This snowball of excess green keeps going. Till death. Some heirs will get a big surprise..

>>57495494
When people say risk=returns sometimes that risk entails many years of loss. There are people still holding small cap value 20 years later waiting for the payoff

Is there a version of this that actually works?
https://www.etfrc.com/funds/overlap.php
It's supposed to show overlap between funds but all I get is NaN

>>57495524
International is a really interesting mixed bag. You have some really cheap nations but then you get shit like Taiwan and India I'm the 20s. Still lower than America

>>57495567
India is a bubble imo. Taiwan idk It's not cheap for sure though.

>>57495504
>Some stocks even have negative p/e and you'd be holding bags if you invested in them.
Doesn't negative p/e mean the company is losing money?

>>57495574
>India is a bubble imo
how do you figure? Their growth is insane

>>57495588
yes lol see gme

>>57495602
What's the growth like 7%? Still a backward country doesn't deserve the 29 P/E ratio. China is growing at 5% at a 7 P/E ratio

>>57495620
>Still a backward country
the correct term is emerging market lol

>>57495625
Bubble. Poo in the loo's do not produce; only shit up the streets.

>>57495553
Yeah, my country doesn´t work like that. The best I could do is live in another EU country for an year or the necessary and change my tax status there.

>>57495452
I have a feeling it’s gonna drop a bit soon and then again after that acquisition. However, I’ll preemptively welcome you to XOM OIL barony

>>57495625
>the correct term
Why don't you fuck off back to r*ddit with your correct terms. Fucking faggot.

>>57493562
You can't use historical valuation metrics to claim the S&P is overvalued now that we have AI. It's different now.

>>57495650
>it’s gonna drop a bit soon and then again after that acquisition.
It will the Pioneer baggies will sell without knowing that they own a superior company, that will be the time to buy.

META is klling it, check it's volatility.

Why is DIS so low at the moment?

>>57495650
there will be peace in the middle east through continuous bombing of everyone but Iran, the Jews will be sanctioned, and oil will drop to the 60's for election season

>>57495625
>developed country
The correct term is submerging market

>>57495111
Yields are way too low. The NASDAQ should be the benchmark for the 10Y and not vice versa as is traditional. As an exercise, think about what percent you expect NVIDIA to grow by in the next 10 years. That should be the risk free rate.

>>57495452
>I'm proud of you too anon, I own 0 shares and I'm waiting for XOM to go on a discount so I can buy some
How much of a discount? Sell cash secured puts at a price you'd want to buy in until you get assigned. May as well earn some premium while you wait.

Whats the best broker for a europoor? IBKR or DEGIRO?

>>57495683
New policy of “we’re not happy until you are all unhappy”

>>57495706
>IBKR
Without a doubt.

>>57495689
>Hey, there's a bubble

>>57495747
It's not a bubble. It's different now. AI is the most important technology since fire.

>>57495762
>AI is the most important technology since fire.
Pic rel>>57495747

>>57495762
>AI is the most important technology since fire.
Clearly, it will be only be about as important as the internet or fax machines.

>>57495778
NVIDIA's p/e is only 87 right now and has actually been dropping due to excellent earnings. Tesla reached 1396 at some point in the past. I'm not ready to call a bubble in AI until Nvidia hits around 1000 p/e.

>>57495795
Much more so.

>>57495799
>NVIDIA's p/e is only 87

>>57495809
Again, most important invention since fire. Traditional metrics of valuation aren't applicable here. If you want to miss out, that's your problem.

>bezos filed to dump amazon stock
>still bullish posters throwing money at MAG7

the dumpening will be glorious

>>57495827
bezos has been selling for years.

I'm going to be stuck in five figure hell forever, brother.......

>>57495831
I know this feel hulk~sama....can't even get past 500k

>>57495706
IBKR and it's not even close

>>57495831
you should be able to work your way out of that in a matter of years
6 figure hell is what is tough because employment income alone isn't enough to escape unless you are getting paid retarded amounts of money

>>57494606
What are you going to tell your future kids when they ask you why you decided to stay on the sidelines and not buy the most obvious golden bullrun in stock market history?

>>57495861
He's going to tell them he didn't know anything about mining companies and E&Ps

>>57495883
nigger this ain't the 19th century just buy US tech and stop trying to be a smartass

>>57495809
nothing beats tesla's high of 1000 before it crashed lol
>>57495652
I was joking about the fact that we try to make shitholes feel better by calling them emerging markets

i like it when my stocks go up and i make money :)

>>57495831
>stuck in four figure inferno

>>57495900
i want to have anal sex with wildly attractive women

>>57495821
Do you understand how AI works anon (both in the technical sense and the business sense)? Or diminishing returns?

>>57495155
I think it won't, but it's always nice to have a cool legacy when you're gone.

Example time: Your pulling 60k a year. Your Wife is pulling 30k a year. Combined that's 90k. You both roll into 401ks. Taxable income is thus 80,000. Standard deduction drops that further to 56,000. Brokerage account is subject to tax at 90k of taxable income. Leaving 34k of "wiggle room" before the tax man comes for your brokerage holdings. Divvy income is subject to tax. But see above. It'd take a long time before you'd hit 34k of divvy income a year. But what about pay hikes?. Simple. Increase your 401k contributions. Keeps the ratio in check.

>>57495451
>you're buying the wrong stocks.
>i have several that have doubled or nearly doubled in the past 3 years.
of course they have, but its not logical to think they will do that over and over again at these valuations

>>57493801
Catch up on sleep

>>57495900
The fact that this is the average response makes me all the more bullish

>>57495693
>Sell cash secured puts
I try not to gamble anon
>>57495650
>I’ll preemptively welcome you to XOM OIL barony
thank you anon

>>57495654
>You can't use historical valuation metrics to claim the S&P is overvalued
Oh really, what kind of nigger logic is that
>now that we have AI
youre kidding right
AI is a fucking meme

>>57495923
I'm making the last trek through 5 figures

>>57494926
I don't know if you are pro or anti killing based on your last comment.

Yoo what can I put this 750 I found into, I'm talking lose it all or 10x kind of situation. It doesn't HAVE to be options cause I can wait for the return
Any ideas?

>>57495962
Nope! I just read Kurzweil and saw that we're still basically on the Singularity trajectory.

>>57495706
>>57495717
I'm using Revolut, not sure if its as good as you people say IBKR is

>>57495993
>AI is a fucking meme
sounds like
>internet is a fucking meme

>>57496011
I dunno, slurp oil if it goes below 70 with an x10 leverage.

>>57496025
have you ever used it?
its a glorified search engine

>>57495845
After some rough calculations, I'm going to be here for four more years. excluding any big wins/losses.
>>57495840
Is that in one account? Including IRA and 401k I'm a six fig nig, but I just pretend those accounts don't exist

>>57496056
on microsoft´s end you have chatgpt 3.5 which on it´s own could take thousands of indians out of the labour force, and then chatgpt 4 which is slightly better behind a paywall, and then there is chatgpt 5 being developed.

Next week is the Superb Owl Rally

>>57496011
Anything biotech, only you'll lose it all 99% of the time.

>>57496106
less go Owls!

>>57496094
yeah, just like Tesla self driving
any day now

>>57496078
>Is that in one account?
yeah, main account is ~400k but Ive gotten up to 450 before, ira is ~100k

>>57496133
>two more weeks
two more weeks
>two more weeks
two more weeks

Also next week

>>57496133
Have you ever went into a store, like walmart, and there´s this lady giving out free cheese samples or something? What these companies are doing is the same, except they are also taking notes on it´s users to have a better picture how better to seel their product.

>>57496157
Yikes, I do business with some of those companies

>>57496175
same, purchased a sausage mcmuffin this morning, shit was so cash.

Holy fuck I thought the broker would sell my calls for their market value.
Instead they exercised them and it's used up almost all my margin!!!! How do I dump this meme stock before I get called?

>>57496157
>Annaly
imagine the smell

>>57496157
>ELF
fuck knife ears

>>57496213
t-thats not very nice anon

Spy 2/7 500c, better get on this bull before it gets cut. March ain’t gonna be no rate cuts. And the bears will come out of winter hibernation. We gonna ride this one hard and put her up wet

>>57496221
this elf of the anime season shit stops now
extremely low quality and low class wifus with no redeeming qualities other than muh ears

>>57496108
That was my immediate thought, but even though I'm usually a bioguy I've been outta the loop and I've exhusted the playbook and been too busy to do DD

>>57496050
I'll keep my nose peeled

>>57496133
>just like Tesla self driving
Trust the hecking science chud. You could learn from >>57496154 & >>57496167 they drive their Tesla's on autopilot, and no they don't keep their hands on the steering wheel. Why? Because HECKING SCIENCE OK!?

>>57496235
I agree, there needs to be higher standards here.

>>57496265
Hey chud, how does it feel to get heemed on SNAP

>>57496269
I mean Rocker isn't wrong on SNAP that shit is going bankrupt, it's just that his short position will be liquidated first and then they'll go bankrupt. Many such cases...

>>57496278
Early is the same as wrong

>>57496235
...

>>57496269
My short position doesn't expire until July, think your shitty app can stay above $16 that long?

>>57496294
Stop betting against innovation and the future

I wanna be part of the conversation. All social media apps are trash but yea it could keep going up

>>57496056
Anon, I'm not talking about chatgpt. I'm talking about the tools that Adobe and Microsoft are making for example, to increase productivity. Photoshop's generative fills are already good.

>>57496305
>>57496306
SNAP isn't innovative or the future. It's a shitty app used to trade nudes. It effectively died when Tim Stokely created onlyfans. Thots decided to stop hiding their nudes and threw all shame.out the window and monetized their nudes. This made Snapchat completely worthless in return. Best case scenario is they get bought by a larger company.

>>57496250
>retard just sits there and films it crashing
fucking npcs man

>>57496346
>Best case scenario is they get bought by a larger company.
At a premium, which will push the stock higher, and heem you harder

I'm a heterosexual still browsing this thread AMA

>>57496362
Correct which is why I do not want that to happen, but I very much doubt any larger company is interested in purchasing SNAP because they'd be better off just making their own platform

>>57494606
I'll tell them the bonds I bought I responsible for the roof over their heads

Anons can you recommend broker for EUcuck? I just want buy some stocks for dividends

>>57496358
They believe in science chud, kind of surprised the driver doubted science right before the crash and grabbed the steering wheel causing the car to crash, the autopilot was going to correct course if the driver didn't doubt SCIENCE.

>>57496410
Both electric cars and self driving cars are a meme and a bad one at that. It was hilarious hearing about how many Tesla drivers got stranded because their electric shit boxes couldn't chard in -20 degree weather here in Michigan. Also self driving will never work out because no matter how "smart" a vehicles system is, it will never be able to predict the spontaneously retarded actions of humans on the road.

>>57496346
Preaching to the choir you fucking idiot. Doesn’t mean the market can’t do Jewish things before it’s over with to shake shorts. Snaps going to 20 next week

>>57496428
>It was hilarious hearing about how many Tesla drivers got stranded because their electric shit boxes couldn't chard in -20 degree weather here in Michigan.
Kek. In yurop the Scandinavians bought electric buses for public transport. Well lets just say there was no pubic transport the first winter after getting them.

>>57496240
Another big bet you could take is a mining development company that has their project in a distressed situation, where they for one reason or other have issues securing permits. Think Northern Dynasty Metals. There are many such cases in the industry albeit NAK is an extreme example, sometimes they get resolved and the stock rerates greatly over time.

its going to keep going higher

>>57496429
The market can do Jewish things before it's over but I am the jew and you can't Jew a Jew. SNAP will be under $10 by June. Cap this.

I’m rooting for you, /smg/.

>>57496480
NEVER GIBU APPU!!!

>>57496157
Been thinking of selling my shares in Berkshire as I think that apple at this point is simply dragging them down. Is Chipotle any good?

>>57496480
Thanks, becuase no one else is

>>57496491
>>57496510
In before, he's rooting for us to go bankrupt...

>>57493801
Marry Chie

>>57496504
The time to buy chipotle was like 10 years ago.

>>57496459
This seems right. The real risk is them announcing rate hikes in March. Until then, they said we are on track to cut, so the runway is clear imo. Inflation isn’t bad. Jobs aren’t bad, mostly govt jobs that got added, so it’s not like an overly hot economy. The vix is looking weird like it could spike or nose dive. Obviously I think nose dive. Dxy is showing weakness. Tax season isn’t for a minute. Gonna rip and roar

>>57496305
>Stop betting against innovation and the future
Lol. SNAP isn't doing any of that. They just have an army of jeets drawing buttons on phones using swift.

>>57496528
I have no debts so I can't go bankrupt

>>57495971
moving the goalposts, faggot.
i never said that shit.

>>57496543
>10% ytd
>46% 1 year range
>past performance is no guarantee of future results

Ok, but you can say that about almost any stock at this point. I´m asking mostly because i´ve never even saw one, much less know if their food and customers services are decent, the financial side i can do my own research though.

Thoughts on this?

>>57496504
I did this last week for that reason plus I read it's very popular among black traders which freaks me out.
>>57496543
I have gotten sick every time I've there and I used to go there a lot because one of my mentors at my first job loved it.

>>57496575
I have only been in their competitor Qdoba
I have the same feelings about it I would a Subway

>>57496575
It's white people Mexican food. I never go there because making burritos isn't exactly difficult. It's basically thot food. If you want to catch lightning in a bottle, buy CAVA. That's the new liberal dining trend.

>>57496593
>I read it's very popular among black traders which freaks me out.
It's over...

>>57496586
>Red circles

Idiot made this

>>57496595
When I was in my early 20's and didn't know how to cook I used to go to Qdoba like 5 days a week. It was like $6.99 for a chicken burrito. I couldn't tell you how much they are now but I was retarded and was fascinated by the subway like setup. I actually order subway quite a bit now just because I'm antisocial and since they introduced the app you can order your subs through it and they just set you order on their to go shelf and you literally don't have to say one word to anyone to get your food. I know it's autistic but I like it.

>>57496575
I like CMG burritos. They're overpriced, but it's a decent amount of food since they're big burritos. Some people like the burrito bowls, but that's not for me. Their chips are good too. Service is usually pretty quick. The nearest CMG to me often has a cute girl working behind the counter, so that's nice.
However, there's a local Mexican place nearer to me that makes better burritos with more interesting flavor options. I prefer them.

>>57496575
Their food is really good but the prices have become outrageous and sentiment toward chipotle has never been more negative. Even when people were getting ecoli from them, I would say chipotle was still a way more beloved brand in 2016 or whenever that was.

>>57496630
I start getting self conscious when I tell the guy around the counter I want more slop. Thinking to myself I should have just gone to the chinese buffet since it is for a comparable price.

>>57496575
That might be a sign that you shouldnt be buying right now

Brrrrrrrritos

Gimme best dividend stocks

>>57495992
>>Sell cash secured puts
>I try not to gamble anon
If you are waiting for a discount to enter a stock selling cash secured puts at the price you want isn't gambling. We're talking about XOM, not some small cap that could go bankrupt overnight.

Does CHWY euthanize dogs?

>>57496652
Back before the app when I used to go to Taco Bell when I would go through the drive thru I wouldn't pretend I was ordering for me and someone else because I ordered so much food I was embarrassed so I'd make sure to order 2 drinks and so things like "we want xyz".

I NEVER GET ANY PUSSYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>57495485
ding ding ding

>>57496671
TQQQ is the best performing dividend stock

>>57495992
>>Sell cash secured puts
>I try not to gamble anon
Do you know how cash secured puts work, anon? What exactly do you think makes it a bigger gamble to earn some premium while waiting for your "discount?" If you just wait for it to drop and then buy you incur the same risk once you have possession of the shares. But you already said you WANT to have a XOM position, you just want it cheaper. Cash secured puts allow you to make some money on the stock while you wait for it to get to that price. We're not talking about betting on small caps here.

>>57495821
>Traditional metrics of valuation aren't applicable here

Hey, there is a bubble.

Uhh jpow bros, I don't feel so good...

>>57496727
man dropped rates to zero for the orange retard and he isn't happy with him?

>>57496727
Luckily he won't win

>>57496654
while searching for it, also saw a 8 month old reddit post stating it would crash shortly before it made a 46% +

>>57496648
>>57496635
>>57496601
>>57496595
i guess i´ll just stay away from the food business for now

>>57496593
for me the problem is the indians and the chinese, they just don´t care about apple as much as it was expected of them

>>57496739
Probably not, this election is going to be so fake and gay it will literally be insulting to anyone with an IQ above room temp.

>>57496543
A former coworker of mine ate Chipotle EVERY SINGLE DAY. He wasn't young either. I laughed at him when he told me how bought IPO shares. Guess he's laughing now.

>>57496736
That's why people don't like him.

>>57496743
>for me the problem is the indians and the chinese, they just don´t care about apple as much as it was expected of them
My problem is the Indian employees. The leadership thought the line employees were fungible and it shows in the engineering artifacts.

Enjoying my META gains with a steak and fried potatoes for lunch. Sorry for you apple baggies.

Captcha is AMD so i think i need to buy.

>>57496761
Please understand sir, the good ones have left to america and europe to feed village.

>>57496765
I'm going to head to the grocery store here shortly. Not sure what I want for dinner. I'm definitely not in steak territory like you though.

>>57496772
it was from heb so it was a good price anyway desu. not take out steakhouse stuff.

>>57496772
By "grocery store", do you just mean WMT?

Is there a brokerage that allows me to set up my buys on a regularly scheduled basis? I want to adopt the "delete my brokerage app" strategy but I still need to log in every 2 weeks to xfer money and place orders. Whenever I look at my PNL I just flip out because I'm not any closer to making it, so if I cut out the looking at PNL part I think I'll get closer to making it.

>>57496784
Nah I don't feel like driving all the way to Adrian for that. Plus I'd go to Meijer anyway. There is a local grocery store here in town called Busch's. It's like a slightly cheaper whole foods. It's really nice. No niggers or mexicans. Also I feel like your comment was a fucking slight against me chud. Dont get cute with me.

>>57496791
You might consider the opposite approach: read schotastic books and look at your PNL every morning. Become completely numb to the volatility.

>he needs gains to eat steak

lmao

>>57496798
Not a slight, and I'm not being cute. I have nothing but absolute respect for WMT shoppers

>>57496815
Nah, I'm already pretty numb. I just don't want to spend all this time looking at charts. I make 200K+ USD so I know I need to just DCA stocks constantly, but I spent too much time staring at charts and 2nd guess myself. I need to fully 100% separate myself from my PNL in order to improve my portoflio performance.

>>57496823
Walmart is just too trashy for me anymore and I'm white trash. Frumpy ass women who are too lazy to even change out of their pajamas to go to the store, busses full of Mexicans, and everyone smells like fucking weed. Plus everyone fucking loiters in the middle of the aisles. I don't play that shit anymore. I'll spend a little more to shop at a place where people have decorum.

>>57496552
There will not be a rate hike in the next decade

why do people give a shit about wash sale rules? are you seriously making less than 3k per year? the solution should just be trading more often and make more money so you dont have to worry about buying/selling the same thing, am I wrong?

>>57496871
Imagine making 200k. The. Dcaing into an index for twenty years at 100k a year only to end up with maybe 10 million. MAYBE. And 10 million twenty years from now will be like 5 million. The perfect example of time value of money. No one’s ever gonna make it but it doesn’t mean it’s better not to have 10 million in twenty years I guess. Fuck guys.

>>57496480
>>57496510
>>57496528

>>57496895
The possibility is still in play in my opinion. I’m highly doubtful on rate cuts in March. I’ve been thinking we’d dip into March but now I’m leaning towards rally then dip over summer when they announce no cuts

>>57496934
The magnificent 7 are loaded with cash, rate cuts or not doesn't mean they won't pump. They don't need to borrow anything.

>was at a thrift shop
>they had a very old tablesaw sitting around
>inspected it and noticed it had a westinghouse motor under the table, saw was a sears roebuck and company saw

yep, now those were the days of quality. Not this apple vision junk made my marketing goofs and pushed by degenerate stock gamblers. Sears roebuck and westinghouse... those were real american companies not apple or meta.

>>57496954
if some of them have so much cash they don´t know what to do with it, why don´t they create their own banks like Mitsubishi did?

>>57496898
For the first couple of tax brackets that's fine. Once you get into 20%+ territory you really want to hold a year to get that long term tax treatment. That alone nets you 12% more gains. Washing majorly sucks because brokerages (Schwab) are awful at preventing them. If your trade gets split in the wrong way it can trigger a wash even without you even intending it.

>>57496961
too based for /biz/

>>57496981
Somebody last night mentioned that Mark Zuckerberg gets like $700 million in dividend payouts quarterly. That's when I realized the scope of how much retard money some of these companies have.

>>57496954
Yea but when you tell everyone no rate cuts, which inflation is the greatest driver of gains, they say, now hold on minute and Mr market doesn’t care who you are. Most things pump and dump together. Plus just take meta for example, that fucking gap was huge. It’ll get filled eventually. I think the carts getting a little ahead of the horse with all these gains but jpow will put a stop to that in March while at the same time promising cuts later

>>57497001
700 a year. Still. That is fucking absurd. We here saving and scraping wage slaving for maybe 10 million when we are 60. If we are lucky. Kill me now

>>57496989
alright then if I held to get capital gains and that happened I would be livid. ive never held onto anything longer than a few months, hoping to re enter on higher lows but things like healthcare services/insurance could be something im comfortable letting chill for a long time

>>57497001
Now imagine if he expanded META into finance, focusing on tech stuff, giving him a comfy position to appropriate someone else's ideas when some of them inevitably fail to pay, or otherwise profiting from financing someone else's projects. Just with that dividend money alone he could finance the whole scheme himself.

>>57496716
I'm going to be honest anon, I only know how to buy and sell shares

>>57497085
Based.

>>57497041
I gave up on that style of swing trading after several involved backtests I did showed that buy + hold constantly beat that strategy. I suppose if that's your full time job and you're ALWAYS buying and ALWAYS winning it works. Every single swing stock I've been successful on has been 25%+ higher at the 1 year marker.

For the past 1.5 years I have not done any active trading. I max out a 401k and IRA and throw a bit extra into a brokerage. I buy broad based index funds with low fees. I feel like a total failure. I was never able to determine the right investments to beat the market and I always lost money, but this approach has proven less stressful. What did I do wrong that led me to this point?

I don't know how I missed this, but Shopify went up 8% last trading session. What are the chances that these are institutional buyers loading up on shares before the 13 February report?

SPY to 700 EOY

Speaking of dividends, is Pepsi going out of business?

>>57497131
if they don't lower prices on drinks and snacks I am going to put them out of business

why have i been risking my life holding pennyscams just to match people holding safe megacaps

>>57497028
>>57497001
at that amount is when divis are based. Buffet was getting like several billion from t bills for a perspective too.

The amount of pure speculation coming out after that Powell conference is staggering. Suddenly every motherfucker has a hot take about how Powell was akshully being super hawkish and how the market has 100% without-a-doubt priced in at least 6 rate cuts for 2024 so we're FUCKED if we don't get them. Says who? Could the assholes writing this financial "news" be any more obvious with their attempts to redirect the narrative?

>>57497124
No chance faggot

>>57497131
people refusing to do business with them theyre charging too much.

>>57497117
Well look at it like this; true your gains are more modest but least it racks up year after year. V.S someone who just blindly picks stocks and has an "whoops I lost half " year.. or worse. You've effectively fucked yourself into a hole. Now to make back everything you've lost and come out ahead you must make double (100%) in a year assuming you've lost 50% of your investment.

>>57496459
>>57496552
Lmao so Big Money is outright misdirecting normies by posting doomer bullshit like this, as they prepare to once again buy the bottom that they themselves create by using their media influence to trick retail. It's so evil but I benefit from it so I guess it's fine.

>>57497180
The fed meetings and opex have been in tandem. Maybe coincidence. Market rallies a lot, jpow says higher for longer. Market dips a lot, jpow says we are cutting soon. Market rallies a lot, jpow says we are still on track for cutting, so markets going to rally more, then jpow says hold uppppppp. Then market dumps. This is armchair finance while I eat my dominoes pizza and get stoned. It’s that easy

>>57497205
Bro I’ve never been labeled “BIG MONEY” but there’s a first time for everything. I’m flattered

Post your best /biz/ memes. I am looking for that one picture of a guy trading on his laptop while a girl is riding him.

Does anyone use alphaspread dot com? It looks like one of those neat tools you have in the OP of each smg thread. What can I do with it and are there any better?

Should I buy ARM puts? The lockup period ends 12th March and this company has a ridiculous PER and no future.

buy tupperware. insanely undervalued. SEC spooks saying it might be delisted on the 31st if they dont release financials. Theyre a billion dollar company.

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>>57497245
>>57497245
>>57497245
>>57497245

>>57497242
I’d like to avoid idiosyncratic risk ty very much. I like leveraged spy until March

>>57497223
I'm referring to the tweet

>>57497210
Powell has literally never said "higher for longer" in a bearish context. The only people who freak out about his regular statements are hand-wringing retail doomers who constantly paint a bearish bullseye around whatever he says.

>>57497249
Why the early bake faggot?

>>57497249
It's RAW

>>57496716
You are getting paid a volatility risk premium regardless and will end up owning the shares at a cost basis (potentially significantly) higher than what they're worth. XOM is actually a particularly bad one for this since it tends to appreciate slowly so if the price drops hard you could be waiting a very long time to get your money back.

stop baking early you idiots
there's still a little life left in this one

>>57497539
Not anymore.

>>57497555
Checked
But I just feel really bad when a thread dies before it's been fully used up. Like... we took the effort to bring this thread into the world, but we're not going to give it the dignity of fully using the resources it provides? We're just going to discard it like trash because it's a little bit old?
It's disrespectful...

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1700-2000 EST

>>57494606
you think the market will fall come Monday?

>>57498279
who?

>>57496341
Noone gives a fuck about your niche nonsense photoshop applications. What the fuck does that have to do with the economy?

this thread is still living

>>57495809
Point of order: it was much higher a year ago. And the price per share continues to go berserk. I'm through fighting it. Grab some NVDA while you can, watch it like a hawk, and update your stop orders on a regular basis.

it's over now