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2 more weeks

>>57490318
soon considering the tech companies stock prices keep going up the more they lay off

>>57490318
who do you think you're talking to?

>>57490318
it wont, ai is terrible at coding for the most part. it spits out bug ridden code consistently.

>>57490318

You will never work in tech, loser. You should have paid attention in school like your parents warned. Not my problem.

Of, if AI takes my job I'll cash out my equity and live free, win-win.

Cope and sneed you pathetic small armed, small cocked incel nigger HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>57490318
Never, seriously. You want software to be deterministic -- you put something in, and you get an expected result out. It's not like image generation where having six fingers can be fixed by inpainting, or text generation where odd wording can just be put down as "style".

Sure, you might be able to generate a framework for your program, but we've had tools to do that for literally decades. Even so, for anything highly complex, forget it.

>>57492069
you're coming off too strong

>>57491788
Checked

>>57491788
It learned basic code in one year since these tools are available to the public, what do you think happens in 5 as it gets consistently fed professionally written code?

>>57492800
What do you think happens as the ability of AI to learn complex concepts and works increases?
It's been one year i repeat

>>57490318
I cant wait to get in a plane with software written with generative AI

>>57494538
It didn't learn anything, it's just matching patterns to examples on the public internet and printing the results based on markov-chain like association

>>57494590
>your brain isn't learning anything it's just a biological neural network that matches patterns to examples in life, printing results based on biological inprint

>>57494607
my brain has fed on millions of years of data through multiple senses and processed it through darwinistic trial and error processes
for reference there's maybe thirty years of text on the internet and some audio / video feed

>>57494624
>he thinks the same can't be done in exponentially accelerated simulations
AGI is coming in the range of by the end of this year to the next 5

>>57494634
noise

>>57494639
here's my noise: "your job is done for"

>>57494590
kek learn to mop

>>57494643
2 more weeks

Now shut the fuck up and make my happy meal faggot

>>57491788
This. I work at SpaceX and we're using AI to code the next rocket's flight systems. Its fuckin terrible with bugs everywhere but Mr Musk says it'll make his next presentation more interesting that way

>>57495292
2 more weeks?
it's been a breakthrough after breakthrough every 2 weeks for a year, you really won't know what hit you when it slaps right on your face all at once.

AI will replace those front- and back-end faggots pretty soon (probably in a few years or so), but true developers and mathematicians won't be replaced until we make an AGI.

>>57495380
no it won't
programming is a lot more then just code expression, it is about gathering data and logic and so on
AI can't make sense of things, it can't replace programmers of any kind

>>57495390
chatgpt and copilot are literally doing all front-end bullshit for me, while I just have to think about complex stuff and the architecture.

>>57495403
no, they are not

>>57495356
>This. I work at SpaceX and we're using AI to code the next rocket's flight systems. Its fuckin terrible with bugs everywhere but Mr Musk says it'll make his next presentation more interesting that way

and they all stood up and clapped.

>>57490318
2 more weeks, right before the housing bubble crashes and the great depression 2.0.

The future of AI and its impact on jobs, including those in software development, is a complex and evolving topic. While AI and automation have advanced significantly, completely replacing human roles, especially in creative, strategic, and complex problem-solving areas like software development, is not straightforward.

AI tools and technologies can automate certain aspects of coding, such as writing boilerplate code, performing routine tasks, debugging, and even generating code snippets from natural language descriptions. This can increase productivity and allow developers to focus on more complex, innovative aspects of software development that require human intuition, creativity, and strategic thinking.

However, the idea of AI completely replacing software developers, often referred to as "coding leeches" in a derogatory manner, overlooks the value human developers bring to the table. Software development is not just about writing code; it involves understanding user needs, creative problem-solving, designing software architecture, ensuring security, and maintaining software, which are areas where human judgment and expertise are crucial.

Moreover, as AI evolves, the nature of jobs and skills required in the workforce also changes. Instead of replacement, we're more likely to see a shift in the roles of software developers, where they work alongside AI tools to design, supervise, and implement complex systems more efficiently.

Predicting a timeline for such changes is difficult because it depends on technological advancements, economic factors, regulatory considerations, and societal adaptation to new ways of working. Rather than focusing on replacement, the conversation is increasingly about augmentation—how AI can enhance human work, leading to new opportunities and challenges in the software development field.

>>57495407
sure whatever you say

>>57495424
worthless text wall copy pasta from the AI app

>>57495426
I know that it doesn't work you larping faggit

>>57490318
Will these AI coders beat the CryptoJew and their bank swindlers?

>>57495430
"pee-pee-poo-poo" - a quote from you when you tried coding for the first time in life yesterday

>>57495437
Crypto is the currency of exchange for the AI, no intelligent system would interact with tradfi

>>57495444
you don't need to larp
just show us something the AI made

>>57495428
When faced with criticism like "worthless text wall copy pasta from the AI app," it's helpful to maintain a positive and constructive attitude. Here are a few ways you might respond:

1. **Seek Clarification:** You could ask for specific feedback. For example, "I appreciate your perspective. Could you clarify what you were hoping to learn or what kind of response you were looking for?"

2. **Acknowledge Differences:** Acknowledge that the response may not have met their expectations. For example, "It seems my response wasn't what you were expecting. I aimed to provide a comprehensive overview, but I understand that might not be helpful for everyone."

3. **Offer to Reframe:** Suggest narrowing the conversation to a more specific aspect of the topic that interests them. For example, "If you're looking for information on a particular aspect of AI and employment, I'd be happy to focus on that instead."

4. **Keep It Light:** Sometimes, a bit of humor can defuse tension. For example, "Looks like I went a bit overboard with my explanation! Let's try that again in a more concise way. What's your main concern?"

5. **Disengage if Necessary:** If the conversation becomes unproductive or disrespectful, it might be best not to engage further. You can simply say, "I'm sorry my response wasn't what you were looking for. If you have any other questions or need clarification, feel free to ask."

Remember, the goal is to maintain a constructive and respectful dialogue. It's also important to recognize that not every conversation will be productive, and that's okay.

>>57495463
99% of the front-ends for websites out there can be made entirely by AI. try it out. or you don't have 20 bucks to pay for chatgpt plus?

>>57495469
no, you can't deliver a product with AI
>>57495467
nice pasta bot baka

>>57495477
sure, think what you think, little troll

>>57495408
kek

>>57495496
oh I think I know what it is
you are diamond hodling nvidia
maybe it's time to get some puts

>>57494545
AI doesn't "learn" anything. It can get better but it will never replace anyone with actual skill, just low paid jeets and others like them.

>>57495550
It doesn't learn until it does.
It doesn't replace people until it does.
now is not tomorrow, exponentiality isn't linearity.

It's been one year.

>>57495369
Its not as soon as youre fantasizing about jr. But either way im not worried about AI, because I know when it does come to a point where it is effectively useful, as an engineer I will be able to use it more optimally than some mouth-breathing retard on the underwater basketweaving forum. Kek

>>57495601
It's not really been one year though, it's been one year since something useful cna be done with AI but AI research and development has been going on for like 30 years

>>57492800
>Never, seriously. You want software to be deterministic -- you put something in, and you get an expected result out. It's not like image generation where having six fingers can be fixed by inpainting, or text generation where odd wording can just be put down as "style
Businesses don't care about that shit. They just want it to work for cheap for 90% of their customers. Look at how they deal with code quality or security issues. As long as they're not criminally liable or getting sued, they don't give a fuck how shitty it is for you as long as they're getting paid.

>>57490318
>coding leeches
>security guards exist
Truly the lowest job that exists, even janitors are more useful

>>57496243
>>57496364
>progress in AI research is going to stop now and not replace me because... BECAUSE I SAID SO
Programmers will be as much in demand as artists soon.

>>57491788
doesn't matter, the fact it spits out anything is good. It's like saying image recognition cameras and robot arms are useless for manufacturing because it makes mistakes. It's all about cost

>>57494538
>what do you think happens in 5 as it gets consistently fed professionally written code?
Except this is never going to happen. The only code it's going to learn is bloated garbage from html builders and shit from roasties that copy and paste nonsense from AI. It's a vicious cycle and it will never get better.

>>57496538
>midwits actually think this

>>57496579
>he's afraid of a glorified search engine

>>57496661
>he's afraid the job replacement will happen from the top down rather than from the bottom up
Lawyers and doctors go first, then it comes from code trannies like you

>>57490318
>coding leeches
Bruh you will forever remain unemployed number shifter

>>57496501
I don't think so. Logically, if more code exists, you need more people to understand and work with logic. Actually, everything mindless, that a simple machine can do, that doesn't involve the creative human spark, will get "replaced" at best.
> Inb4 coding is not creative
You will never be a real software engineer

>>57496813
>creative jobs are the first to go
>really makes you think
Anon...

>>57496818
You are a retard. Creative, human, jobs are the "last" to go. They won't even "go" away. You believe with full fanatic faith based on your little mind that artists are all done for, yet I can visit a big ass museum right next to me (I'm rich fgt) with art from accomplished and respected artists that have one critical factor: Creativity, they don't just copy and paste others and hope to make it. The same goes for other creative tasks. You can be a mindless code monkey copying and pasting stack overflow and chatgpt stuff, but then you know it's not creative and not sustainable. That's the moment you should begin to think "oh wait, I should try to make something innovative and creative!". This applies to every human task that has been and can be automated by a machine. I hope this computes in your understanding of logic and business, ironically.

I keep coding and getting my 6 figs salary. None of this ai bs is even affecting me. If anything, it's helping me get more code done more quickly and cash in more.
I'll simply hop on the next profitable tech job with ai ever replaces me. You will never be rich and you will keep seething.

>>57496849
>>57496859
>Paintings? Automated
>3d modeling? on the way + painting = sculpting, almost automated
>context writing? Automated
>coding? On the way to be automated
Novelty and creativity can be automated anon, coming up to a solution for a unique problem can be automated anon.

If you are planning for the next 20 years, hell, even 10 years, you're deluded, ransack all the 6 figs wage that you can and invest into things an AGI or powerful people will need.

>>57490318
AI isn't coming for anyone's job, you fucking midwit

>>57496878
Keep seething poorfag mindset. Others will continually prosper, and you will forever make schizo threads until you drop your stupid faith.

>>57496890
Train those cock sucking skills anon, you might have the right bussy to sell once your skills are no longer in demand

>>57496878
>and invest into things an AGI or powerful people will need
Which are?

>>57490318
Sir we are not leeching. We offer great value on the world economy. Kindly note that we are best to produce your code.

>>57496917
Oracles, digital store of value, digital programmable cash, decentralized databases, robotics, AI companies, (training) data brokerage.

the code it spits out is often full of hallucinated libraries that don't exist. even if it did make good code, who would manage the thing? managers? lmao.

>>57496878
>automated paintings.
can be spotted a mile away
>on the way
not really relevant to your point, is it?
>context writing
okay you got one.
>coding
that's what you were trying to prove originally..so this isnt a point

you've brought up context writing, and that too can be spotted a mile a way, and will be uncanny valley rejected by humans as well.

>>57496849
>they don't just copy and paste others and hope to make it.
most of them probably did ... all art is copypasta to an extent

Unless you live next to tates modern art kek

>then you know it's not creative and not sustainable
Maybe it never was creative
>t. codemankey since 90s

>>57498198
and yes AI/LLM/whatever is going to 100% take many jobs if it doesn't stagnate. mostly from indians at first kek
Down the line you wont need professional artists either like those who work in advertising.Starving artists will remain