/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57486498
unironically losing your drive to do anything difficult

gold diggers. you dont want to feel what its like to be betrayed and financially raped.

>>57486498
Hot girls will pretty much use you for your money to live an instagram lifestyle to the point where i actively avoid super hot chicks bc i know they are all gold digging. If a girl is a 7 and doesn’t sell herself to men and has a decent way to support herself that is so much better than just being hot. Hot girls will contribute nothing to any money making project you’re doing and only take from you. Even if you’re chad and ask a hot girls to help out for one second she will immediately begin to think about cheating. And if god forbid you lose some of your money the countdown of her leaving begins. Usually less than a year but more likely 3 months so she can find another dude to support her stupidity.

I've noticed any suicidal ideation I once had vanished, because its no longer the only viable option to escape.

When you have fuck you money you are liberated.

>>57486667
uh just a question here but have you ever tried to maybe not flaunt your wealth to a girl immediatelly, retard?

>>57486498
Hot girls will pretty much use you for your money to live an instagram lifestyle to the point where i actively avoid super hot chicks bc i know they are all gold digging. If a girl is a 7 and doesn’t sell herself to men and has a decent way to support herself that is so much better than just being hot. Hot girls will contribute nothing to any money making project you’re doing and only take from you. Even if you’re chad and ask a hot girls to help out for one second she will immediately begin to think about cheating. And if god forbid you lose some of your money the countdown of her leaving begins. Usually less than a year but more likely 3 months so she can find another dude to support her stupidity. I also feel obligated to tip wagies so they don’t get butthurt about how much i spend, my nice car, nice clothes, nice house etc. i just don’t want the trouble of dealing with poor idiots bc they are a huge waste of time and energy. Poor ppl are poor for a reason which is they have problems.

>>57486670>>57486549

how did you make it

>>57486498
idk i spend all day gaming while spending my money on gachas and cosplays for my neet gf who basically cooks and fucks me

>>57486498
you are a bit lazier and very much intolerant of people

when i made it i basically became a perma neet. i havent left my house or put on pants in like 6 months

>>57486684
Yea i bought all my nice shit to enjoy. Also girls will find out eventually. They will Google your car or clothes if they really care. Or even I’ve had girls go through my wallet and pull out 2k in hundred expecting me to fold. Like i always carry around this much. Poor girls or girls who work shit jobs will get so butthurt that s dude is rich and doesn’t like them. Especially if they’re not hot. It’s a double edged sword

>>57486707
nigger you cant dress normally without wearing gucci ? and you cant drive a normal car?
tell me youre a nigger new money without telling me youre a nigger
are you a rapper or how ?

>>57486706
>>57486692

>women will use you
>sales calls/pitches will never end
>everyone expects things from you

The benefits outweigh the drawbacks though
>people hold you with contempt

>>57486731
It’s just not practical with my lifestyle to change all my clothes and my car so some girl doesn’t get butthurt. No I’m not a rapper lol lots of businesses and stocks that’s all buddy. Like i can change my bmw or my beautiful house. You’d be surprised how much this shit bothers normies when i really don’t care. I’ve been broke and I’ve been rich. Rich is just easier but life is simple when you’re broke. Go live in the woods. But you’re butthurt at me right now See.

>>57486776
im not butthurt at all i just think youre a retard, but im curiious how a retard accoooomulated companies, without being born into wealth that is

>>57486498
becoming unnaturaly rich like from crypto or lottery?
easy to destroy yourself because you didn't grow into it. Obvious example is hedonism.

I had a plan to start a farm and help people. I've since learned that I need to upgrade my organizational and relationship skills if I'm going to make this work. Thankfully I went very slow so I didn't accidentally bury myself in systems that I wouldn't be able to handle.

>>57486549
having money should motivate you even more to do things like start companies and eating the best foods/getting in the best shape/ spending all your time on hobbies etc.

>>57486650
Gold diggers shouldn't be a problem if you make women signing disclosures before entering in a relationship. Also put your assets into trusts and don't marry if you can avoid it.

>>57486670
very true. If you have multiple 7 figures you know that a good trade can double or triple your net worth in a short period of time.

>>57486695
This is not advisable for long term sustainability

>>57486767
This is true, people especially family and spouse will try to use you. Only the most trusted people should be consulted for anything financial. Acquaintances and friends will get envious and may act differently towards you. Money can really bring out the worst in people including yourself.

>>57486794
Why am i retarded and what has made you so upset with me? I’ve made money working hard and focusing on cash flow. Start the business yourself and expand. Sell one good product or offer one service then branch out. I had a large eBay store. I’ve renovated two houses and flipped. I do real estate wholesaling. And also sell car parts like tail lights, Seats, doors, etc. learned how to run a biz from my grandparents grocery store before it was burned down by riots

>>57486832
dude im not upset, but clearly if youre too retarded to not know how to not attract golddiggers you cant be very smart

>>57486832
what would you do if you had nothing in a shit market like now tho?

>>57486826
>people especially family and spouse will try to use you
Yeah, I'm very thankful to have a good family around me that's already seen some wealth. Same with my fiancee; she works in a decidedly not-well-off-career (teaching) but grew up in an incredibly wealthy town and had a very good family growing up so I don't experience that very much.

I have seen it occasionally with friends I grew up around though who aren't exactly on the right path. A friend of mine from high school consistently hits me up with schemes and business ideas but he has never been successful with any of them. Guy works at Publix for god's sake. I've tried to get him a sales or consulting role in the past where he can at least make some commission if he works hard, but he's never risen to the occasion. Not my problem

>>57486832
>learned how to run a biz from my grandparents grocery store
ah so thats how you got exp, im not as lucky

>>57486498
I have money but I'm lonely

>>57486689
B B B BASEDO

I recently broke 7 figures net worth and am looking for subtle ways to use my wealth to attract females. What are some things i can do?

>>57486692
started a software business and sold it

>>57486667

>Hot girls will pretty much use you for your money to live an instagram lifestyle to the point where i actively avoid super hot chicks


How about just learning to say NO you fucking retard

>>57486945
put a dating app pic with emira or corvette

>>57486853
Hot girls come to you like magnet when you have money. Anyone with money knows this. All of them are gold diggers to some degree. Relationships are an exchange of value for both parties

>>57486877
Focus on a cash flow business and try to get some huge gain crypto investments. Also use tons of debt to accumulate money quickly. Hell even if you’re doing bullshit stuff like window washing, power washing, or painting it’s good bc you can get $500-1000 a day if you work hard. You can also try a commission based sales job like cars or real estate. If you’re smart you’re going to maximize your money
>>57486898
You can still learn man. Look up basic accounting and how to write a biz plan. Reading books is a meme but gaining knowledge on business and how to sell is actually useful especially if it’s on someone else’s dime

>>57486945
Subtle ways I display my 7 figure NW is by having my own house, driving a nicer car, and having top Apple products.

>>57486960
I have and they will not leave me alone. They will call you 20 times in a row and act like psychos if you want to stop dating them. Also it’s not as if I’m just handing them money or buying them clothes everyday. It’s lifestyle creep and them acting like freeloaders. Oh i have to go get a new suit for a meeting. She wants a purse bc I’m going to Nordstrom’s. Or she wants to order 6 $20 drinks on the menu to try them. Shit like that. Girls always do that shit.

>>57486970
That just seems like a waste of money. Also i have never had luck with dating apps

>>57486978
dude again if you werent flaunting like a nigger nobody would know immediatelly

>>57487004
then dont date them but just fuck them

you are literally rich, and them blame the weaker sex that you have no spine?

the fuck man

you must have gotten rich by shear luck then

>>57486945
Nordstroms or expensive mall stores, talk about vacations in the cape, talk about how you like to collect art. Shit like that. Always tip waiters well to flex not bc they deserve it

>>57487030
same thought i had, the guy seems like a literal retard

>>57486945
>to attract females
Dont

Have similarly wealthy friends set you up
No other way to go

>>57487019
Yea live like a pauper and make a no gf thread instead while the fed inflates it to nothing.

>>57487030
Yea sure idiot. If you were actually rich you’d realize that your time and quality of experience is worth more than the money you waste on penny pinching bullshit like arguing with a girl when it has no return on investment. Ok here I’ll buy you this expensive meal and never talk to you again. I got to see her real character and got off easy

>>57486670
weird. my ideation got stronger actually.

focusing on money was an easy distraction. it was a singular goal that if achieved would solve all of my problems. i woke up every day and did whatever i could to make it.

once i hit my number it forced me to realize that most of that was bullshit. making more money has diminishing returns, and i am going to die someday. so now what? i have to go back to square one and decide why i am even here in the first place.

>>57487031
>uh i only attract golddiggers i dont know how this comes

>>57487048
If you date a rich girl she will expect you to pick up where her dad (or sugar daddy) left paying her bills. Car note, clothes, rent, eating out etc. chicks can never ever go down in lifestyle and most will never spend a dime to help you when you’re down on your luck

>>57487054
how did you make it?
i literally have stem degree and an entry level shit job and i literally see no way of making it
im even considerig roping its so bad

>>57487046
Yup

>>57487053
Just learn how to say NO you fucking retard.

Please never make children because they will literally turn out like spoiled retards

>>57487067
Early employee at a successful startup

You have a stem degree and an entry level job, so you are in your 20s? I was the same. What is so bad about it exactly?

>Hey can I?
"No"

wow that was hard

>No you dont get it once you are rich hot girls will steal all your money

yeah? Hot girls come put a gun to your head? Is that how it works?

Your just didnt think your failed larp about being rich and gold diggers through, or you are indeed an 80iq retard that won the lottery and is being bled dry by females

Either way ,both is cringe

It is not like they can force you to. Grow some balls and learn how to say no,

>>57487057
It’s not only gold diggers idiot. It’s most hot girls also expect lots of money bc they can demand it. The hotter the girl the more she expects bc that’s how she’s been treated her whole life. And bc 99% of men’s desire to get rich is to get a hot girl (let’s not kid ourselves) it’s something you realize when you get to that level of dating. Don’t deny reality every girl is in every relationship to get what she can get from it. Not bc she loves her man. The culture has promoted capitalistic sexual exploitation for 50 years now and it shows itself in dating whether you like it or not

>>57487103
Can confirm bs. My girl is hot, of course during first dates I paid for everything, but after few months I let her know getting money takes effort, and certain sacrafices are to be made.

Do you wanna go to dinner to that place or that place?

>Both? No thats not possible, you see money doesnt grow on trees, you have to make choices. We can go to this place, and then to the other place another time.

Did your parents somehow forget to explain this lesson when they were raising you?

Imagine typing all that bullshit you just typed just because you are a retard without any balls that doesnt know to say NO or doesnt know that a girl cant have everything all the time.

Same goes for children, they sometimes cant have their chocolate.

Same goes for dogs, they cant have human food

But your dumb ass cant tell a girl NO

jesus fucking christ

>>57487103
This. Every girl is a god digger. Wives. Girlfriends. Whores. Sugar babies. Even friends.

They are all whores. They all have a price. They all get what they can. You want the hot girl, you pay the cost...

Your goal should always be to own her soul, not her pussy. If you can own a girls soul, it's different.

>>57487136
Your girl is def not hot if you think like this. Take her to the casino or someplace in la and watch how long it takes her to forget you exist when guys better then you are hitting her up. It’s not 1950 anymore trad larper. No amount of character fortitude and male strength is going to change female nature and the gynocentric government Tax business complex.

>>57487170

My girl is hot, 18yrs old and understand the concept of money being finite. Of course she wants to have dinner every fucking night, but I tell her NO. If she's not happy? Well then she can fuck off and find some rich retard like yourself that blows all her money on her. But she sticks with me anyway, because guess what? Unlike your retard incel larp, not all pretty girls care about money. And if they did, I would avoid them like the plague or simply tell them "No" because my own fucking balls are still attached to my body.

>>57487195
>have dinner every fucking night,

*meant to say go out for dinner every night

of course she can eat everyday, im not that poor lol

gold diggers do not enjoy fucking you, they see fucking you as a price to pay to get money

if you would be able to tell a girl no, then at least she enjoys fucking you because she she's you as a worthy man

>>57487097
im very near approoching my 30s...
and its a shit job and i have no hope like this ever making it let alone have a life

>>57487195
She will one day realize she can do better than you and get a guy with more to offer. You can’t control it. Every time she looks at instagram or tik tok she is comparing you to something better. Every time you say not she thinks of how there could be a better guy to say yes. You’re so dumb you don’t realize you were the better “rich” retard she left someone else for. They always try to do better. My whole point was that it’s exhausting to keep saying no to women bc that’s all they want when they are with a rich guy. Regular girls are intimidated and won’t be with you.

>>57487219
Yes exactly but having money complicated this. That’s the whole point of the thread. Downsides of money. Specifically when you start dating a lot you will see there are many many girls who are only out to get things for themselves despite how great the man is >>57487219

>>57487231
So? As if guys never look at other girls lol. Current girl is a brunette so I always check out blondes. And when I have a blonde, I check out brunettes.

Humans always want want they cant have.

However alot of relationships exist because certain rules and expectations are in place.

If you cant tell a girl no, you are definately destined to fail.

If you can tell a girl no, or sometimes have her pay for dinner too, your relationship will be much more healthy.

I am not interested in materialistic girls. I avoid girls who are active on instagram, think apple is important, wear alot of make up or designer clothes and so on because they are usually too retarded for me to find enjoyable and it shrinks my dick actually even.

>>57487011
Go outside you stupid fat fuck. You'll see hundreds of female faces and you can do it for free.

>>57487249
I disagree. Money gives you freedom. More time to work on yourself. Seems you could use the time to learn how to say "No".

>>57487277
I can say no you fucking retard. The whole point is that saying no Is exhausting so you don’t even bother with most chicks in genera bc they all want something for themselves

>>57487299
>Saying no is more exhausting than buying stupid girls over priced goods.

>>57487263
There are literally no hot girls on the planet that meet your description. They are not hiding in a village or at church. You are delusional. Every woman is materialistic

>>57487317
Source: My deranged worldview that I have formed after many years reading incel posts on an anonymous alt right manga forum

>>57487312
It’s not buying them over priced goods. It’s girls expecting too much when they know you’re rich. If they know you’re rich and you hold out on them they will go someplace else bc they can. What aren’t you understanding retard? You cannot hide being wealthy if you’re actually wealthy. It oozes out of your body. Like Patrick Bateman but hopefully less pretentious.

>>57487346
>they will go someplace else bc they can

So fucking let them and find someone else?

How fucking stupid are you?

>>57487333
You wish retard. I’ve dated far more chicks than you and know how girls operate

>>57487352
I do. You’re so fucking stupid. The constant barrage of girls leaving and coming is tiring. That’s what happens when you’re rich and say no. That’s the whole point of this thread. Unexpected downsides.

>>57487354
A) Learn how to say no
B) Confess your stupid "all girls care about money waaaa" larp didnt go as expected

>>57486707
You let bitches take 2k out of your wallet? There’s your problem you let women walk all over you instead of telling the bitch to get out of your car.

>>57487363
A) you’re not rich
B) have never dated a hot girl

>>57487358
Then you have absolutely shit filters in place or arent straightforward from the beginning.

I dont have this problem now when im below average wage, I sure as fuck wouldnt have this problem if I were rich.

>>57487374
Im not rich correct and my current girl is very hot.

I think your definition of hot is maybe the issue here. Do you only like instagram thots that have designer handbags next to them on yachts or some shit?

>>57487367
Yea go ahead and take it out. They always put it back dumb ass? Are you fucking daft? I’m not just handing chicks 2k for nothing. They can look but they can’t have. They can hold my Rolex but not take it home stupid

>>57487382
>Retard wears a rolex in public
>Whaaaaaa why do people come after me and expect handouts?

>>57487354
the other anon is right. those girls exist. i found many of them in uni.

>>57487400
He literally wears a rolex. Imagine how fucking braindead and little self reflection you have to not see how you are only gonna attract retarded "hot" woman. I bet he judges a girl on how hot she is based on how many instagram bikini pics she has.

>>57487380
Yes it’s good your current girl is hot but what I’m saying is that when you’re “rich” just by happenstance of your lifestyle you’re attracting lots of girls. It’s hard to distinguish which ones like you and which ones want to use you bc girls are master manipulators but also super fickle. It’s a blessing to find a girl when you’re poor bc she likes you intrinsically. It’s harder to tell why girls or people in general like you when you have money

>>57487423
>It’s hard to distinguish which ones like you and which ones want to use you

Not really, see the ones that are still there after you tell them NO to the request of you giving them money in any way

>>57487400
Yea and they’re married to someone who isn’t you

>>57487431
When you say no the countdown begins due to rampant simping. What’s not to understand idiot. Dammed if you do dammed if you don’t.

Dont you guys hate going to the shopping mall?

All the homeless people there they cost me so much money!

I just have to avoid going to the shopping mall now alltogether.

>>57487446
What I dont understand is how someone as retarded and weak willed as you manages to gain more money than I do.

>>57486498
bitter friends and family, esp if you are ungrateful or unkind

>>57486549
also the dishes

>>57487445
>knowingly exposing yourself to risk

Trad larpers deny reality

>>57487097
>24
>300k/yr job (before I get raped in taxes)
>300k NW, 70k in cash, rest in btc/eth
>moving to japan soon, work for same company and get same salary there
How the fuck can I make it? After I cross 7 figs I plan to start working with my dad in property management so I can start generating cash flow but to pay off said properties it will take like 20 years. How am I supposed to expedite the process, my gf and I want to have kids within the next 3 years and I want to make it before then

>>57487448
By not giving a fuck about arguing with girls about money and trying to discipline them when they could leave tomorrow

>>57487434
money was never an issue to get girls when i was a broke student

>>57487487
Yea but when they graduate they want shit a broke student doesn’t have. No chick wants to work and take care of a man or help him in any way become successful. They want you to work and support them.

>>57487480
I dont want them to leave tomorrow, I want them to leave right away if I were to find out they were in it for the money.

Like I said: You have shit filters. You should filter those girls day #1. And if it keeps happening, clearly you are doing something wrong and are attracted to the wrong ones.

Nobody controls your money except for you. And you can't even tell a fucking hole with tits "no".

>>57487487
That's because they were broke ass too.
It's later in their lives now, they've married money and have attained a lifestyle they want to keep.
Sure they could fuck and dump some broke ass nigga, but still, she ain't doing a long term relationship with broke ass faggots. Let's be honest here.

>>57487498
You’ve misinterpreted my entire argument and fixated on this saying no bullshit which you cooked up yourself. Say yes or no to a girl regardless if she doesn’t get her way she will look for other alternatives bc she can

>>57487514
My response was about people saying the side affect from being rich is that women will bleed you dry which I said is not the issue about being rich but an issue about being a retard yes or no.

>>57487513
Yes this is what I’ve been trying to tell these fucking retards

>>57487497
>No chick wants to work and take care of a man
true but i also have a friend whose girl is the breadwinner and earns 3x more than him. he's a very cool and intelligent guy but his job is so-so. they have kids. she would laugh at you if you thought you could get her with money. but generally yeah the more money you have the better.

General rule of thumb here is to tell a hoe you got no job and live a shitty part of town.
Observe their reaction. You'll be able to pretty quickly work out if the hoe is a gold digger or a keeper.

>>57487513
>>57487525
>>57487536
There is nothing wrong with a girl expecting a bare minimum standard in a man. Us guys, at least I, also expect a bare minimum standard in her.

When you dont meet each others expectations you move on.

Obviously most worthy women are demanding a man to have a house and a car. As long as it works, is safe, does what its supposed to do that is fine. If she only accepts one that has shiny diamonds on it. then she can fuck right off. It isnt rocket science and im not gonna let you idiots pretend you lose money when you are rich because that is a skill issue.

>>57487523
it is an issue of being rich and not being a retard bc when you reach high sexual market value ie being rich, you are flooded with many girls, most of which are gold diggers. It doesn’t matter if you say no or yes bc the originating product (the girl) is tainted from the start

>>57487531
That true and it does happen. That’s my parents marriage. But like you know 99% of men will never get that lucky, let alone get a wife who totally faithful

>>57487563
>girl expecting a bare minimum standard in a man.
Different hoes have different expectations.
>most worthy women are demanding a man to have a house and a car.
Depends on their time in their lives.
Also, if she's demanding of that in you, you should demand it of them. If you're both in the same financial place, then there nothing wrong in dating a hoe. If she's broke, you're gonna think she's a gold digger no matter how good looking, intelligent etc. etc. she is.

>>57487563
Yes however “worthy” girls expect more and more as the “minimum” when you have money. That is the issue. Lifestyle
Creep and women trying to squeeze out more bc why not

>>57487394
Hahaha this guy is retarded and his larp is fake and gay. No man that has built himself the way he describes is a pushover.

>>57486650
>financially raped.
I'm sorry you were dumb enough to invite the government into your personal relationship you christcuck bootlicker

dumbass

>>57486498
You feel a little more comfortable doing things you otherwise wouldn't. You may have historically disliked traveling due to the costs and hassle, but you just warm up to it and even enjoy it. If you're staying with someone without your car and decide the home situation is getting too unpleasant or hostile, you might uber the next town over without blinking rather than politely waiting things out.

You feel a little more entitled to good service. Not so much where you become a Karen, but you're a bit less patient with the kind of service proles are accustomed to and become willing to pay a modest premium to not deal with it.

You don't take things so personally. When you're slighted by strangers unprovoked or rejected by women who know nothing about you, you understand that it is a reflection of their own personal pathologies, not anything wrong with you.

You worry about the macro situation more. If you have wealth, you're less concerned about your income per se and more concerned with preserving your wealth in the long-term, and all the factors that may affect this.

You think about how you should allocate your investments, how it should be distributed with respect to jurisdiction to account for potential black swans in one of them, striking a balance between investment yield and portfolio growth, living within the means of that yield.

Similarly, you think more generationally. The idea of generational wealth becomes less of an abstract ideal and more of an unfolding reality that needs to be taken seriously. You think about preserving the estate within a trust, potentially supporting a family on it, and how inheritance might work, and how the hell you're supposed to meet someone who shares your values as it relates to family life and multigenerational financial well-being in a cultural zeitgeist which is hostile to it.

And most importantly, if you get screwed out of your seat on the gravy train, you chase your way back onto it like a crackhead.

>>57487636
See this is exactly right. This guy knows what being rich is like
>You don't take things so personally. When you're slighted by strangers unprovoked or rejected by women who know nothing about you, you understand that it is a reflection of their own personal pathologies, not anything wrong with you.>>57487629 this is what I’ve been saying idiot. It is not being weak willed. It is being so strong you don’t care if they leave bc there is something wrong with them. No need to bother control them let them go who cares. Rich people do not give a fuck enough to argue with girls

Pic related. I got to the beginning of the last step on here and then I lost all my gains

>>57486498
I ain't rich but I'm no longer in poverty and dont live paycheck to paycheck like almost everyone I know. You tend to start noticing the poor financial decisions others make and then it becomes very annoying listening to them complain about how they don't have any money.

>>57486826
How do you set up a trust?
What are the implications of it for trading and investing and the costs?

>>57487102
He needs a therapy to revisit his past with his parents.
His parents had the same issue and didn't give him unconditional love, thus making him into an attention simp needing outside acceptation.

>>57487102
Noooo you don't get it! If I say no they will leave or cheat on me with another beta male provider. :'(