/biz/ - Business & Finance

Who is causing all of the after hours action today?

>>57448214
Mumu gang, RISE THE FUCK UP

IRANIAN DRONES STRIKE NVIDIA HEADQUARTERS

DOOM BULL

Who listened to me and bought UPRO calls this morning?

Reminder that if you aren't up 45% YTD, you're losing to NVDL.

>NVDL ATM call options
What the actual fuck?

>>57448239
They don't have the balls. Also it would be bullish.

pump pump pump pump pump pump pump pump
get capital get capital get capital get capital get capital get capital get capital get capital

>>57448239
semiconducdtors are safe. houthis only target amerimutt/jew companies

Keep shorting anon, i'm sure it's working out very well.

Another comfy day in the stock market

>>57448250
Also you can laugh at hedgies getting squeezed by this fact: https://pracap.com/the-blowoff/

I ONLY HAVE 10 SOXL CALLS FOR NEXT FRIDAY

its so over baba bros

>>57448275
This is known as "opportunity cost". Sucks to suck, this is where leverage comes into play to make up for that cost.

Come on faggots, everyone post your gains/losses today. I want to see some screenshots.

pfizerbros, how are we feeling?

>>57448336
That's what ding ding dingposting is for, newfag. Check the last thread.

>>57448341
I can smell the butthurt bear

Anyone here who had 200k+ and lost most of it? I worry what I'd do if that happens.

>>57448350
Nope, I was one of the top returns for today. But this isn't crypto, there are rules.

>>57448360
>I worry what I'd do if that happens.
You'll start drinking... again.

>>57448281
Kek. My man. I got 6. $40 strike though. Worthless unless, let's see

>>57448250
Post screenshot of NVDL positions

>>57448336

>>57448350
Lol nearly all of us made money today.

>>57448250
Very true but I like the extra companies included in the SOXX index. Companies like SMCI and MRVL provide uber pumps sometimes

>>57448386
I want to know the idiots who lost money today

>>57448336
I'm up $273.53 for the day on 219 SCHD's and 194 SCHG's. Buying another shid tomorrow, unless the meme stocks open red, then I'm buying a shig on discount.

>>57448396
>>57448396
>>57448396
pic_rel

>>57448382
I am losing to NVDL.

>safe and effective(tm) pump straight from 3500 to 5000
>yield curve still inverted after an extended period of inversion
>chinese corncob skyscraper economy disintegrating
>europe sharting
>apocalyptic tech bubble bloating further while layoffs are starting everywhere
>consoomers heemed and maxxed on credit cards
>companies making less and less profit per revenue
>global debt bubble
>global housing bubble
>global untamable inflation
>ukraine
>middle east
>taiwan
It just keeps getting worse and worse. Can you feel it mr krabs?

Is it too late to ride the metals bubble?

>market does a shitcoin pump
>soxl goes basically nowhere
>NVDA is powering soxl and the entire market while everything else crabs ominously
Lmao

Stocks will keep going up at least until they start going down again. We will know for sure when that happens because price changes will switch from an upward direction to a downward one. The main indicator that we can use to identify this switch is that we will begin to see stock prices falling instead of rising. That will tell us when returns on stocks have changed from positive to negative. Because returns are currently positive, that means the value of stocks is growing rather than shrinking. However, with negative returns however, then the value of stocks will shrink rather than grow. Thus, the prices at which stocks are bought and sold will be going down instead of going up. Until then though, stock values will continue moving upward rather than downward.

>>57448417
>>safe and effective(tm) pump straight from 3500 to 5000
That's just passively tracking inflation. Not even a pump after the fiscal calamity that was covid.

>>57448417
it's a blow-off top so just ride it with as much leverage as you can and then get out, simple

>>57448417
Keep shorting then retard.

no trading, no waiting for dips, just long, call, leverage

>>57448440
>ride it with as much leverage as you can and then get out, simple
That's all there is to it?

>>57448417
It'll get worse and then it'll get much worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0atvB9mw9Zg

>>57448239
Probably Priced in

>>57448337
Constant Chest pain and hairloss but otherwise fine

>>57448420
Depends on the metal. Uranium? Lithium? Gold? Palladium?

>the evergrande thing being finally wrapped up is bad for china stocks because uhhh... BECAUSE CHINA IS HECKIN COMMUNIST AND COLLAPSING OKAY?!?!??! SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Lol what happened to that faggot that said "this is the top, sell with both hands" a few months back

>>57448513
Became an hero

>>57448474
I was thinking of a mining company.

Sell my call pre-earnings and buy NVDA?

>>57448456
yes, I did borrow some money from family too to be honest. But it's paying off

>>57448526
You have one anon, hold it.

What's the true top signal?

>>57448541
watch cramer tonight

>>57448541
unemployment picking up noticeably

>>57448499
Kek. Check.

/smg/ is comfy

>>57448539
I only have 2k to invest. I have the rest in moderate boomer calls in PG (which I will sell in AM), and three 162.5 calls for GOOG. I don't wanna lose out.

>>57448541
when your peepee starts hurting more than usual

>>57448555
fuck the digits
>>57448586
>$jepq

With SPY hitting ATHs, can we finally admit Biden is based?

Housing

Crash

Now

BABBY WANT

HOUSING CRASH

NOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>57448605
Market cares little for the national figurehead. Jayrome's jpb is to get inflation to 2% yoy and maximum unemployment, no he wasn't elected. Regardless of the president's last name, it is never their accomplishment.

>>57448562
extremely bullish

>>57448541
breakout in initial/continuing claims, until then it's clowntown

>>57448586
>I don't wanna lose out.
Then set a 10% Stop loss. But don't set it at 10%. Because stop loss hunters (whales, institutions) create dumps in the mornings to push the stock down briefly 10% so they can snatch your calls.

Set a stop loss. Alter it day by day. Never get complacent. Don't get comfy. Alter your stop loss every day. Some days it needs a 20% stop loss. Some days it needs a 30%. Some days it does need a 10% stop loss, but probably not on AMD. The swings will be too large.

Set a stop loss. Look at the charts and find a comfortable level. DON'T set it too low. And don't set it too high. And then be content with yourself no matter what happens. You saved your money. Or you increased it.

>he locked himself into the le safety of 5% bonds and missed the last few months of pumping

>>57448562
extremely bullish for stocks

>>57448605
It's kind of funny its hitting all time highs with the current interest rates. I'm guessing everyone is pricing in them coming down.

>>57448625
Lol, total bullshit. I know you weren't here before 2020. This general was constantly on Trump's dick for pumping the market.

wtf 4channel keeps erroring
too based i guess

>>57448642
Cool story bro, why did we hit another ath under yet another surname? Who was prez in 98, 99, 00, 01? I guess it doesn't matter.

>>57448640
>>57448626
Delete these cursed webms

>>57448640
^^^
>>57448562

We've got a few weeks left.

AQB did alright today

>>57448667
Irrelevant. At the end of the day? I'm thanking Biden for my gains. God bless and good luck.

>>57448638
Aye aye capn

>>57448541
NVIDIA rugging

>>57448710
In 12 years you will thank the same person?

>>57448417
>he didn't set his STOP LOSS
>missing out on free money

>>57448417
Bobos are financially illiterate. They started paying attention to markets in the last few years and are naive, inexperienced, pessimistic, emotional and overly swayed by negative headlines.

If you're so smart, why do you keep losing money

>>57448737
we may never know

>supermicro blasting up 10% AH
Yeah techs going to do well this week.

Any of you guys use ToS? If so, what indicators do you use?

>>57448767
>495.67
What in the hell!?! It was at 50 last I looked at it. An acquaintance of mine has been working there since 2014 and I always laughed at him because the pay was really horrible, the stock was bad, and he was driving 4 hours everyday to go to that office. I hope he was loading up on ESPP shares and didn't get laid off.

>>57448417
literally all misconstrued to make you feel doomish.

>>57448417
>>57448737
Let's go over bobos track record

>evergrande
>superbubble
>ukraine
>its taiwan next trust me bro
>europe freezing to death
>diesel shortages
>fertilizer shortage
>food shortages
>the fed isnt unwinding its balance sheet
>quantitative tightening will destroy the market
>credit suisse lehman moment
>Bank of england pension margin calls
>munkypox
>railway strike is coming
>we're already in a recession btw
>actually the recession is soon and inevitable
>inflation is not coming down
>inflation never comes down when rates arent above it
>consumer credit card debt will destroy the market
>trillions of derivatives on banks balance sheet
>ftx contagion
>dollar strength
>yuan for oil
>gold for oil
>housing will collapse
>the market too
>Union strikes will lead to mass layoffs and inflation
>regional banks will spark financial collapse
>The debt bubble bro we have to live within our means
>they always predict a soft landing before a crash
>unemployment is always low before a crash
>China is collapsing (again)
>Gaza
>Iran and Houthis will spark WW3
>EVERGRANDE 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO
>Mag 7 is expensive the market must crash immediately

All bobo predictions are either wrong, stupid, or irrelevant

>>57448474
How does an investor buy LEAPS within the

URANIUM sector?

AMD will either go up or down after earnings

what the fuck is a bobo

>>57448781
not all of these are on under the chart though, some like macd are just a lil arrow that let's me know when it flips. All are lagging except volume and vwap can't trust too much. 50/200sma+vwap is literally all you need on any time frame, 20sma if you want the standard deviation line. Ema's are gay fyi. Only 8/9ema matters because it indicates the squeeze level.

I hate autism bros, I think I made my boss cry when I spilled my spaghetti about leaving during my annual review today

>>57448796
up 587% this year for some reason. never even heard of them and now theyre making big money off AI i guess.

>>57448807
Just described 99.99% of all Youtube bloggers
Babe
Manarinno
Leeds
Vanmetre
George, step number 2
And the list goes on and on

>>57448781 Volume profile on every chart. VWAP on intraday ones.

>>57448826
I say it will go up, mommy Su isn't retarded like the Intel nigga.

>>57448781
>>57448859
Every look into Supertrend or the lortenz machine learning?

>>57448927
Nope, what's it look like? I do derivatives tho.

>post-pasts

>>57448826
>discounting the possibility it just goes sideways
Never underestimate the reach of Mr. Snibs

>>57448405
Top kek glad I'm no longer an RSI lanklet, now I'm just a regular lanklet

I sure am glad the Los Angelos Times has a plan to stop inflation. I was worried I would need tens of millions of dollars in my old age.

>>57448949
Welcome to Nigga Town boyz

Why not by the cQQQ right now? Chink tech stocks look super under valued.

>>57448605
>can we finally admit Biden is based?
Don't care still ridin' with Biden

tomarrows predictions
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1705530042977387.webm

>>57449043
How low the Polish have fallen...

>>57449043
im going to make *more* money and bobo continues to seethe.

>>57449050
being polish is suffering
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1705954305493011.webm

>>57449019
I'm thinking the same anon, then i contemplate it for 69 seconds and remember the ccp isn't the fomc.

>>57447475
Hey tranny! TSLA up almost 5 points now and will probably moon harder with the release of neuralink first patient. Are you okay? Those puts must sting.

>*starts WW3*
heh, nothin personnel, /smg/

>>57449098
This would never happen under a different surname.

>>57449092
>-26% YTD

Kek watching the Rockford Files. Aside from just how fucking better things were in those days (after the 00s things really went to hell) is how fucking cheap shat is. A fancy car some doctor drives in one ep is only $26,000. A house in one ep was mentioned as being worth $20,000. A pack of cigs was .60 cents. This was in California to. Imagine making what your pulling down now and shat costing what it did in those days. You'd be living like a king.

>>57449118
>he didn't buy the dip
NGMI

>>57449124
even nvidia hasn't caught up to uranium.
techfags living in a fucking dream world.

>>57449143
i'm already up 5% since the earnings report
keep sneedthing

>>57449092
I already have one anon, can't do much but help my epilepsy.

After SMCI's blow out earnings I'm raising my MSFT and GOOG prediction to a 20-30% gain on Wednesday, and raising my 2024 S&P EOY target to over 9000

Sorry Bobo, there are forces you can't defeat...

>>57449192
kek

>>57448270
You won't be laughing tomorrow. It'll be a bloodbath.

>>57449192
>>57449201
>>57449175

Yellen pregame pump before Powell does the coup-de-grais on the bobos.

>>57449215
>It'll be a bloodbath.
For bears. Tomorrow we get blow out earnings from AMD, MSFT, GOOG, UPS, GE, and MAN. The economy is roaring that will be reflected in the earnings. NEVER bet against America, especially not during the strongest economy in US history, adults in charge in the white house, and a Fed that's juicing the economy. Double digit GDP growth is realistic for 2024

What. Are. Some. Stocks. That. You're. Shorting.

>>57449236
VT

>>57449236
>What. Are. Some. Stocks. That. You're. Shorting.
SQQQ

>>57449241
>>57449244
No. Individual companies. Equities. Not indices.

>>57449246
All of them. Every last ticker.

>>57449236
shorting?
in this market?
I wouldn't short Vern Troyer these days.

>>57449122
That's cool. Don't forget to kys

>>57449231
Even if the market goes up tomorrow, or even this whole week, or month, it WILL come crashing down at some point, and we Bobos will have the last laugh.

>>57449246
>No. Individual companies. Equities.
If I had to short something (I wouldn't - this is the golden bull market) I'd choose something useless like a utility stock. Maybe Duke Energy, absolutely no exposure to the AI revolution and their growth could suffer as the 10Y rises to 10%+

>>57449251
>>57449255
Stop being lazy. Tell me about some shitcos that are worth shorting. There was this dogshit LLAP that was shilled on here. SIGA too. and TTOO. And other shitcos. Some bigger shitcos out there with mid - large market cap too. IBM pumped for no reason (Watsonx is a total meme). The comapny "AI" is also a meme.

>thousands of people will reportedly converge on the southern border this week as part of a convoy seeking to stop migrants illegally entering the U.S.
>"Calling all active & retired law enforcement and military, Veterans, Mama Bears, elected officials, business owners, ranchers, truckers, bikers, media and LAW ABIDING, freedom-loving Americans," the group says on its website and posters promoting the events. "The time is now for We the People to peacefully assemble in honor of our Constitutional Rights to call on our government to Take Action and SECURE OUR BORDERS!"
>active & retired law enforcement and military
>"""peaceful protest"""
bearish
>jan 6 nothingburger 2.0
they have the support of the local state government.

>>57449274
Why would Duke energy's valuation suffer if the 10y goes up

>>57449281
>a bunch of fucking boomers and Qtards will show up to chant MAGA and do dumb shit on national news
Can't wait

>>57449276
Did you do your bond research yet? That'll tell you who to short.

>>57449273
>it WILL come crashing down at some point, and we Bobos will have the last laugh.
Let's review the facts boboid:
>strongest economy in US history
>retail sales booming
>adults in charge in the white house
>AGI is coming
>the government is funding AI chip factories in the USA
>everyone is still bearish and short
>everyone still predicting a slowdown
The pain trade is up. Eternally.

>>57449297
ARe you the short NINE guy

>>57449175
Bold, but dangerous. I have Google weeklies at 162.5

>>57449281
Jan 6 '21 was a green day and the red day that followed it erased hardly any gains from it.

>>57449295
They'll show up and apologize for being racist.

>>57449307
I bought NINE now b/c I think they bottomed out. I still have to do that writeup; got distracted this month.

>>57449273
ok
>continues to buy
>sets a stop signal for -5%
>all this free money

anon if you're right i'm going to take all the money I made + money i pulled out and buy even more cheapies. dont you get it? you've fucked up. you'll learn eventually.

>>57449288
>Why would Duke energy's valuation suffer if the 10y goes up
Utilities are dependent on issuing bonds to pay for infrastructure upgrades and grow. When the cost of borrowing goes up utility stocks suffer. This is the golden bull so everything will go higher, but antiquated companies like Duke Energy are the weak link. In a couple of years AI will make utility companies obsolete

>>57449323
what are some other bond shorts you got in mind?

>>57449092
I'm loaded up

>>57449337
oh okay. that explains why Jim Chanos always called utilities companies like PG&E shitcos because they are margin-strapped by regulations and rely on raising debt to pay for things.

>>57449299
My tax dollars paid for a mystery meat nigger to type this post. Fuckimg disgusting.

>>57449299
>AGI is coming
fucken lmao
Reminds me of the story about some bigwig investor deciding to pull out of the stock market when the shoeshine boy started recommending stocks to him. This is the kind of retard propping up the stock market and the reason why I'm shorting everything. People never learn; it's the dotcom bubble all over again.

>>57449236
AAPL

>>57449358
>My tax dollars paid for a mystery meat nigger to type this post. Fuckimg disgusting.
If you don't like the multicultural reality of American then you can leave, son. America has never been stronger than right now and hundreds of thousands of new citizens are coming over every month. Your racist ass won't be missed.
Tomorrow the market will melt up
Wednesday the market will melt up
Thursday the market will melt up
Friday the market will melt up
If you don't like that please does us a favor and open a short position

Bidet unironically thinks that starting a war with Iran will save his reelection campaign. Remember: absolutely everything this man touches turns to shit. You have been warned.

>>57449358
they let women on boats?

>>57449325
>goes down 5.01%
>then up 25%
every time I set a stop loss

>>57449385
>everything this man touches turns to shit
Except the markets.

>>57449385
It turns your shorts into shit, yes. It turns my tech leverage into gold. Voting for Joe, keep seething. Bombing sandniggers in the morning is not only a great pastime, especially as it makes thridies seethe, it's also the best way to use up close-to-expire missiles instead of paying to dismantle them.

>>57449364
>it's the dotcom bubble all over again.
Zuck JUST announced on a livestream that AGI is coming, and it's coming soon. AI chips are hotter than gold for a reason. Once AI starts teaching itself it'll develop consciousness in a split second. It'll then integrate itself into every aspect of the business and boost productivity to incredible levels. The economy will be roaring and stocks will be booming

>>57449381
>>57449395
>>57449405
>all these 1PBTID shills
Real inflation is over 10%: you're celebrating over losing money. Biden is the most corrupt president in US history, and he's cooking the inflation numbers.

>>57449415
Can't tell if this is b8 or you're just really this retarded.

>>57449381
B A S E D
A
S
E
D

Anyone else ship Jpow x Yellen?

>>57449417
My money is in the market, which does like triple the inflation. You're just retarded.
ALWAYS have your money in the stocks market. They always at least follow inflation, you fucking retard. Told you so 4 years ago.

>>57449338
I have none. My source for new corpo bond issues went paywalled and making an edgar parser is painful. I might try finra again to see if they can give me what I want (FOR FREE).

>>57449381
Holy based. Seething short selling right wingers BTFO

>>57449435
Not if inflation is over 10%, retard. Bidet drained the SPR, halted domestic energy production, and blew up the nordstream pipelines. And now after all that he's about to start a war with Iran. This will make the 1970s oil crisis look like a fond memory.

gg, dumbass

>>57448796
>>57448863
They assemble NVDA shit into a usable form for AI-hungry companies. Similar to CLS.

>>57448812
The physical uranium trust doesn't have an options chain, but UEC, URNM, URNJ, and CCJ all do. Smaller companies it's hit or miss.

Someone post the MIC meme

>>57449424
>Can't tell if this is b8 or you're just really this retarded.
When Bill Gates went on the Letterman show in '95 he was always laughed off the stage for talking about the internet. They also thought he was retarded.
Current gen AI is just like the movies, once it can learn autonomously it'll be able to self-replicate and becoming all-knowing in a matter of milliseconds. ChatGPT is already partially conscious, it just needs more time to develop a full understanding of the human brain

>>57449490
>ChatGPT is already partially conscious, it just needs more time to develop a full understanding of the human brain
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>57449424
It's the same glownigger shill who always posts the uncanny valley reaction image packs that his agency hands him.

>>57449488
>MIC meme
....this one?

>>57448949
>>57449018
The way he says it is delightful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4brpoNVwS0

God damn I'm glad these retards exist, they're the necessary losers that are needed for me to win in the markets.

>>57449468
>They assemble NVDA shit into a usable form for AI-hungry companies. Similar to CLS.
thanks. they must be doing well then. makes sense they beat.

>>57448781
I use DAS, but camarilla pivot points, VWAP, 9 and 20EMA, 50 and 200SMA

>>57449503
No the
>I don't support x
>I support the MIC
one

>>57449019
Because if you believe in a comeback, why wouldn't you go with 2x levered CWEB instead?

>>57449526
I still have no idea what you're talking about
But I support you in finding it fren

>>57449122
I have far more humble dreams when it comes to deflation.

>>57449262
Don't forget to support KO boomer anon, because he's much loved than you are.

He provides an example of what could be. He's not arrogant about it. But you are. I've never been this fervent about defending and /smg/ hero but this won't be the last.

Nigga knows what he's doing. Get learned, stupid-ass.

>>57449526
Oh wait you mean the military industrial complex one
I don't have that, sorry

>>57449546
;_;

Went long on Super Micro computer with a x5 leverage before close. is it really going to $1000 ? Thoughts ?

>>57449559
pic related.
>>57449546
Most employment in the US has negative value.

>>57449262
Don't forget to support KO boomer anon, because he's much more loved than you are.

He provides an example of what could be. He's not arrogant about it. But you are. I've never been this fervent about defending an /smg/ hero but this won't be the last.

Nigga knows what he's doing. Get learned, stupid-ass.

>>57449391
>attack in Jordan
>on boats

AMD's lack of movement AH is concerning.

>>57449577
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Jordanian_Navy
Now what

>>57449391
Sending women to war is something countries only do when they're on the brink of destruction.

>>57449573
based thanks

>>57449573
If you're interested in a similar Apu pose

>>57449582
You still have time to change your position and invest in smci instead. AMD makes no profits+ high p/e

>>57448433
Excellent analysis, anon.

>>57449608
SMCI or NVDA? I have a single thousand dollar option in AMD expiring in May.

What the fuck is going on in here?

>>57449299
>>57449415
>>57449490
>AGI is coming because Zuck said so
zuck trying to stay reliant so people don't talk about his bunker
>chatgpt is sentient
by that definition your phone's autocorrect is sentient. you're falling for hype for a overly centralized piece of technology while the elites move to the exit.
>>57449313
>>57449295
ofc the boomer larpers aren't going to do shit but they are going to attract people who actually want a civil war.
>>57449577
>>57449587
both of you are partially right but the base was at the jordan-syria-iraq border. aquaba is hundreds of miles south.
>>57449582
something something 11 cents of actual profit.

>>57449587
>>57449624
She died in the middle of the fuckin' desert, homes.

Now if you want to tell me those two SEALs who drowned off Yemen are kweens, then I will keel over laughing.

>>57449432
Literally only 1 result: https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Jerome%20Powell/works

>>57449573
>Most employment in the US has negative value.
...k

>>57449620
I'm thinking of which one of these to pick too. I'm gonna go with smci.
>>57449651
Based ao3 user

>>57449621
>You now remember yellowcake
>They killed Saddam because he was trying to become the ultimate Uranium Baron

>>57449651
Untapped market. Lots of potential there.

>>57449608
>>57449620
Stop.

I'm a straight up newbie but I'm from Australia. What is the best stock broker to use? Do I just use Australian ones, or can I use international ones? Benefits or possible to go both?

>>57449685
You cunts have IBKR? That's usually the top tier broker.

Who let in the goddamned fags from Tumber.

God Bless XOM and OIL/NATGAS

>>57448214
This rally is not sustainable. We'll be back to 3K in no time, mark my words.

>>57449709
I bought CVX instead. I seem to consistently buy the wrong oil companies.

>>57449709
And God Bless Chie's Tanner Stage III Chest

>>57449122
>watching the Rockford Files
Based. Digits checked and Ricky pilled

can I go infinite with $100k capital and $1k/mo expenses?
I'd rather speedrun tanking a little brick and mortar shop into ROPE than boomer grinding

>>57449725
>wrong oil companies
Nonsense, no OIL company is wrong.

>>57449745
0dte qqq calls 2% out. Good luck

did I miss the lithium boat
is the boom baked in already

>>57449745
no, 12k yearly spend on 100k is a 12% withdrawal rate which has an unsurprisingly high rate of failure.
plug your shit in here:
https://engaging-data.com/will-money-last-retire-early/
protip: assume additional expenses at some reasonable age (55-60ish) for healthcare and disability/elderly living at home stuff, you'll need it. you can safely assume ~70% of your projected SSA income will materialize at 62.
12k annual expenses requires 300k for a safe withdrawal of 4%, i'd aim for 360 or so for a good cushion before pulling the trigger.

>>57449746 Some are more correct than others.

>yolo'd $1000 on options
>check on it today
>up 33%

wtf do i do. im so used to losing money on this app im not supposed to make any.

>>57449793
Use a U149 to shill CVX

>>57449815
>Puts on spxs
Why not just buy calls on SPY or UPRO? Genuinely curious

>>57449815
>Imma jest bet 1k on black bro

>>57449746
>Nonsense, no OIL company is wrong.
I will direct you to Razor Energy (ticker: JFMSU)

>>57448214
I am scared mumu bros. I am going to sell at 45500 no matter what and not be greedy like last time.

>>57449845
I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. If I had bought puts on SPY, I wouldn't be able to spend the entire $1000. SPXS contracts were cheap enough that I could spend like $995 on them.

Again, I don't know what I'm doing. This is gambling aka entertainment to me with a little more thought into it than rolling a dice.

>>57449858
I bet Zyzz would've been a cryptobro-influencer type if he were alive today.

>>57449771
Look at the chart of something like PLL. Does that look like a stock that has already baked in a boom?

>futures

bros... why cant i feel an adrenaline rush from pumps anymore

>>57449778
I would plan to live for 20 years after retiring meaning withdrawing 5% per year plus pocketing dividends which is an extra 1-4% depending on your holdings or 6-9% of your portfolio per year.
Suicide is always an option and if my ass lives to see late 70s it would be ideal because fuck being that old holy shit fuck it all the way

Last chance anon

>>57449680
I've decided I can't sell. The mi300 is just too sexy. There's too much going for AMD right now to worry about P/E ratios. I predict a beat tomorrow, good guidance, and am going all in. Will post position tomorrow.

>>57449867
For the love of Chie anon please tell me you aren't holding that nightmare

>>57449917
Would Skibidi

People won't have gas to drive to their cars or electricity to heat their houses. This AIDS-ridden faggot market ends now, beginning with war with Iran.

>>57449879
>If I had bought puts on SPY
You woulda lost it all. Puts on the 3x inverse etf is essentially the same as calls on UPRO. I've never fucked with SPXS before. I just trade spy. But buying puts on spsx is a cool way to go long on the s&p

>>57449905
What about MSFT? I think it's going down.

>>57449944
I meant calls on SPY, sorry. Getting them mixed up now.
But yeah I basically just wanted cheaper contracts because that felt more entertaining.

>>57449839 I have no/a weak thesis for CVX. DTM on the other hand is the only midstream I could find that was not an LP. They've been good to me for the last year (as in they're my only oil buy that is green).

>>57449693
Googling it, seems we have that one.
What makes it top tier out of curiosity?

>>57448710
>I'm thanking Biden for my gains
Your welcome

>>57449894
Hell yeah AI dashcam dude. Glad it's paying off.

>>57449917
No, but heard some "kek baggies" over on fintwit.

>>57449941
We've got 13 mbpd in domestic oil production and that's before annexing Alberta. As for electricity, we have decades worth of URANIUM and BEAUTIFUL CLEAN COAL.

Sucks if you're the rest of the world though.

>>57449998
Most flexibility when it comes to foreign markets and the most common complaint about them is fees which, considering all the other shit and complaints about competing brokers, are hardly a problem.

>>57450042
Aren't foreign equities a bit like setting your cash on fire

>>57450057
It really depends on the who what place and time

>>57450057
If he's an Aussie, it's either foreign markets or commodity stocks.

And from the US perspective, Canadian, Aussie, Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese, and, hell, even some Chinese stocks can be worthwhile. To say nothing of Euro stocks that may have better liquidity on their home exchanges (if you want to, say, long Airbus and short Boeing).

>>57449620
Smci . X5-X10 leverage(long term) at premarket before its too late for you.

>>57450042
Can you short sell bonds if you have PM? What about bond derivatives?
That's my only real complaint with Etrade.

>>57450077
America and since Jesus died on the cross.

>>57450091
Buddy, you could trade onion futures if you want.

>>57450098
I'm serious, does it let you short bonds or can you only short bond etfs? Their website isn't clear.

>>57448435
It's literally only 7 stocks going up you fucking moron. If inflation actually made markets pump, then europe's market should be 3 times what it is.

>>57450098
Did you mean onions futures or onion futures? Onion futures are illegal.

>>57449879
based

>>57450104
>Onion futures are illegal.
Not on the Pyongyang Exchange.

>>57448417
>bro you bobos don't know it's a blow off top haha
It's crazy how this market only went down for 3 months last year but 3 months up has niggas declaring an eternal bullrun and all 'doomish' posting is haram. /smg/ is the dumbest general thread on 4chan full of people who hate crypto because it's "gambling for teenagers" and then casually yolo their entire mcdonalds regional manager paycheck into call options which get randomly btfo and sent to zero like the INTC guy last week.

>>57450116
ironically when the casino and sports betting sector does well (the most discretionary of the discretionary sector) that's bullish.

>>57450101
Pretty sure but why on Earth do you want to short specific bonds?

>>57450008
:)

>>57450116
all those losses were wiped away in about a month

why is hang seng computer not pumping wtf i hate this

>>57450138
1) I prefer dealing with the securities themselves so I don't get surprised by something the ETF does.
2) It lets me get inverse exposure to particular corporations that are otherwise hard to short. It's one more tool.

>>57450109
I knew that crazy sonofabitch Kim would be trading food futures.

>>57450042
So if you account for the fees you get a better experience and more flexibility. I honestly don't understand half the stuff I'm reading here. But I know I want to and should learn this shit.

How fucked is it that Andrew Tate memes got me interested in trying to start this shit?

>>57450144
I knew I should not have tried to trade China a third time. After the second time I said I wouldn't do it again and yet here I am.

>>57450165
Walk before you run (and faceplant into the concrete): https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>>57450144
Hong Kong liquidated Evergrande as soon as things started pumping because they're treasonous liberals and Xi should punish them

>>57450203
I love Xi so much

>>57450187
Thanks. I started googling today thinking of starting some time this year and figured best place I could go for some no bullshit advice is 4chan.

>>57450215
Same, we need a White Xi for America

>>57450165
Andrew Tate is a retard and you should stop listening to him. Listen to Hitler instead.
I ended up here after learning how options worked. I thought they were more interesting than stocks and then I slowly learned value investing etc. I feel like a lot of people our age tend to go through some of this stuff "backwards."

>futures
SNEEEEEEEEEED

>>57450259
The messages I took from tate were:

I'm a fool for only living on my income from work.
I need multiple income streams, which has me looking at hobby income and stocks.

In general just moved my focus onto building some wealth

I was at a sweet spot in life; 30yo, full time job for first time, no debt or bills, renting and have 2 kids. So I wanted to start building financially for the future.

>>57450220
Yeah, the market will reward you for information and rob you for emotion. Starting out you have zero information and plenty of emotion. Bogleheading (buy SPY regularly, never check your account balance) is the optimal meta at that point.

Later on, if you have brains and emotional control, you can branch out into using leverage, value investing, bubble investing, day trading, tons of other stuff. But just aping into the hot new ticker on reddit or TikTok is a surefire way to burn money.

>>57450293
Oh neat, so it's the same kind of stuff I got from Dave Ramsey.

>>57450313
kek I was about to reply that he could've learned the same things from Dave Ramsey

>>57450300
Definitely paper trade in the mean time. It wouldn't hurt to put a few $k into an account and mess around. You learn a lot pretty quickly doing that.

>>57450300
That makes sense to me. I'm old and wise enough to avoid Reddit and tiktok (especially for tips)

I figure once I learn enough I can make those decisions. But yeah, I just didn't even know where to start or how which is why I was trying to figure out which trading platform is best for my country.

>My covered calls

>>57450293
>I'm a fool for only living on my income from work.
No, retardation is people who choose bad careers, stagnate, spend every cent they earn, or don't have a backup network if their company lays them off. A doctor or lawyer pulling in six figures does not need a "side hustle" selling books or daytrading options or whatever Tate shills.

>I need multiple income streams, which has me looking at hobby income and stocks.
There's a reason all those gurus have to sell those courses - 97% of people can't just snap their fingers and beat the market. And plenty of hobby income pays $shit/hour, especially compared to working on your core job.

>In general just moved my focus onto building some wealth
This part's good. Earn more, save at least a little, and passively invest to let wealth compound.

>>57450313
>>57450318
The other thing, being a dad and working full time was I wasn't really gaming as much any more. Tate and the money focus did sorta help me look at it in a new light that as an adult maybe I should be trying harder to work these things like a game to get ahead.

Helped me cope with the change, I can still get some gaming in and I've found a nice balance now but yeah. I don't take the superficial shit in.

Never heard of Dave Ramsey but I'll suss him out. I might get some more insights.

>>57450350
>No, retardation is people who choose bad careers
As someone with a CS degree I'm wondering what you think a "good carrier" choice would be.

>quit a job a few years ago
>have HSA account with about 2k
>was getting charged more in fees than interest
>close account
>they're sending me a paper check
What happens if I deposit this into a non HSA account? Should I open an HSA and contribute to it?

>>57450293
Get your money up not your funny up. CREAM by all means and hair brained schemes

>>57450361
>Never heard of Dave Ramsey but I'll suss him out
Eh. If you don't have debt he's a waste of time. IMO he's a good alternative to the propaganda the credit card companies produce for very unintelligent people who can't figure out on their own why debt is dangerous. He has a lot of really bad advice though.

>>57450362
CS is excellent. I mean, you *are* marking down that you're trans every chance you get, right?

>>57450377
>Dave Ramsey
He's a stereotypical "why don't these kids want to work" boomer

>>57450379
>you *are* marking down that you're trans every chance you get, right?
I'm the self proclaimed greatest black female options trader in /smg/ and possibly the entire world

>>57450367
There's probably some way to put it into some sort of IRA. Otherwise you might get charged early withdrawal fees and taxes by the IRS.

>>57450367
A quick web search says you will pay income tax and an additional 20% tax if you don't put it in another hsa. At least we aren't speaking German though.

>>57450379
I just got rejected for a job after four rounds of interviews where they wanted people familiar with some niche technology (that I'm very good at and used a lot at my last job) for half the salary.
They rejected me because I'm not an "expert" in an adjacent technology that's about a year old despite my demonstrated knowledge in it. I don't think CS is a good degree anymore.

>>57450390
>2027
>Biden orders the Fed to provide QE directly into the accounts of black female options traders

>>57450350
I work disability support. Earning AUD of about $1,100~$1,400 a week (after taxes) I don't know how much higher I can go from here. With more years my pay increases. I might be able to move into some management role at my company.

I've been saving a little but also looking to start investing some too.

>>57450362
Verizon used to be the best carrier, but now I think ATT is the best carrier. T-mobile woupd probably count as a good carrier.

Sell

>>57450421
At least neovim lets you do :set spell and :syntax on at the same time these days... Maybe that's why I can't get a job.

>>57450391
>withdrawal fees and taxes
>>57450400
>income tax and an additional 20%
Odds of just putting it into my account and they don't notice? I mean its less than 2k so I probably just pay the damn fees

>>57450406
>directly into the accounts of black female options traders
That's why I'm identifying as black and female now so there's a proven track record of my transition when they inevitably audit the black female traders

>>57450434
Posting on the chan from an IDE? Very 1337, anon.

>>57449945
the big tech will all do well.

>>57450442
Plenty of people get away with just not filing their taxes. That's generally considered a "bad idea" though.

Time to get tactical

>>57450534
>>57450534
>>57450534

uh... still a little life left in this one i think

>>57448214
Should I buy more BOIL or just get rid of it. It's been giving me shitty returns all year.

>>57450917
Double down
Nat gas will rise again

What’s the meme? I’ve got 30k and I’m tired of sitting on the sideline

>>57451491
AMD earnings with an accompanying Fitch dowgrade right afterward just like August 2023.
>They warned us

>Spain CPI
>expected 3,1
>actual 3,5 or 3,4, different sources
when spain has inflation, all of europe will very likely have. Or deflation cause recession (like germany)

Either way, no cuts.

S&P will end 4950 tomorrow after FOMC and then start dumping