/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57448176
Crypto nerds are ABSOLUTELY SEETHING over the fact they can't anally masturbate with their crypto, while we r/wallstreetsilver stackers CAN -- Right now I've got a 1KG silver bar up my ass and it feels AMAZING and I know the COMEX can't take the bar from me! Meanwhile Satoshi can log in to Bitcoin at any moment and steal your coins. Knowing all this I'm anally masturbating with my silver right now and my cat is watching! I'M ABOUT TO COOOOOM!!!! AND COOOMEX CAN'T STOP ME!!

>>57448215
Silver stuffers keep on WAGMIing!! And your cat is even a lil silver sniffer (maybe a stinky silver sniffer depending where that's been recently). So baste!
>Satoshi: 0(s and 1)
>stackers, stuffers, sniffers: 100

i noticed the one i sent in is apparently the high bar version. i have no clue what the variation is. how do i figure that out?

keep on stackin, frens

>>57448176
Damned early baker again.
At least the faggot's got good silber.

>>57448312
height of the bar in the H of "CHARLOTTE"

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86635.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces17328.html

>>57448410
awesome thanks!

>>57448176
CP hidden in the OP image.

>>57448410
wow only 7000 of the high bar. no wonder prices for those are so high. this will probably be one of my better buys so far.

>>57448452
yeah no problem. Cool coin!

>>57448176
>Big Bars Edition
It's the biggest I have.

>>57448461
Prove it.

>>57448461
Then don't save the pic and report it, problem solved.

>>57439110

Answer to the question is : LCS has it listed for 35 Cad or 26 USD

Still waiting on 50 merc dimes to arrive.

>>57448176
I ordered 5 of these, what am I in for?

>>57448701
I might pick it up. Just for the novelty.

>>57448719
it's cool it has a bird and a reptile

Say that time when gold spikes/is reevaluated/backs a currency is here, will it matter what coin I have or will gold be gold? Should a Canadian have a Maple or would an AGE/AGB better? I'd think not but maybe I'm missing something.

>>57448923
Well considering this is a hypothetical/fantasy scenario, just use your imagination.

>>57448923
I have heard that during times of volatile silver prices, it was easier to sell Eagles than anything else. So Gold Eagles or Buffalos might be interesting to you. On the other hand if there is some kind of event like you speculate that permanently and significantly increases the value of gold (which sounds like a dumb boomer conspiracy theory) then you might want something that is legal to melt or cut up.

>>57449011
It's tempting alright. Although I admit my real motivation is to know whether I have to stick to Maples.

>>57449057
>permanently
I fully expect any return to honesty will eventually give way to dishonesty and money printing again eventually.

>>57448719
5 silver coins with some ugly ass dude on em
i still got no pedo king in my stack and i intend to keep it that way. this year i'm stackin krugs

anyone got some sentimental coins in the stack? these two got me interested in coins as a kid

crypto nerds will seethe

>>57449193
I wouldn't call it a sentimental coin as im not the emotional type but it was one of my first and its message is the main reason im still buying to this day.

>>57448176
Numismatic sisters rise up

>>57449193
Colonial era sovereigns are sentimental to me. Imagine the shit that was financed with colonial gold and silver. War and chattel.

>>57449193
>he's a scratchman ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-bop!
https://youtu.be/Hy8kmNEo1i8

>>57449342
Nice stack, silver sister. Peace (dollars) be upon you.

>>57449193
I got a merc dime in my change in 2005 when on holiday in the states. Didn’t realise it was silver until 2022 when I remembered I had it in a pot or rando change from other holidays.

>>57448176
where can i get a bar like in the pic rel? its so angluar and polished it is beautiful

Kooks are here! and my display box

>>57449342
I've got some ancient roman silver coming, I'll post when it arrives. Really neat to own something that old and so well preserved.
>inb4 fake

>>57449644
>>inb4 fake
yea is hard to believe coins that old could look that good.
whats the story? modern reproductions?
1000 year old coins that miraculously somehow remained uncirculated since they were minted?

>>57449644
those all yours? the collection grows bigger

>>57449672
>>57449672
That was my thought as well, but apparently there were millions of them, and many were hoarded which left them well preserved.
>>57449732
aye

>>57448923
If you are in North America you want American eagles. Gold and silver eagles are always the most desirable and most liquid coins in the world

>>57449732
I really want a gold roman coin, there are some really impressive ones that aren't completely out of reach in terms of price.
Pic related is not mine
>Hadrian AV Aureus. Rome, AD 120-121. IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust to right / P M TR P COS III, Mars standing facing, holding inverted spear and resting hand on shield. RIC II.3 319; C. 1071; BMCRE 109; Calicó 1312. 7.36g, 20mm, 6h.
>Extremely Fine; well centered and attractive example. Very Rare; the finest example offered at auction in over 20 years.

>>57449744
amazing that 2000 year old coins like that. i found a website that has them or something similar, listed for around $150 - $250 ea.
is that about what they go for?

>>57449789
yeah wow that coin is awesome

>>57449789
>the finest example offered at auction in over 20 years.
you should probably buy it

>>57449792
Hard to say without more info. If they are in the condition as nice as in my photo earlier, then it's probably a decent price. I'm not an expert by any means. I've bought all mine from private sellers. I got this lot a while back, here are the prices for each:

(top left - right)
Otacilia Severa Antonininaus - Pietas - 244-246AD - $30 (Wife of Philip I)
Small Ancient Greek bronze - $35
Severus Alexander Denarius - Salus - 222-235 AD - $45
Severus Alexander Denarius - Salus seated - 222-235 AD - $49
(middle left - right)
Trebonianus Gallus Antoninianus - antioch mint libertas - 251-253 AD - $55
Philip I antoninianus - Aequitas rev. - 244-249 AD - $49
(Bottom right corner) - Lot of 3 Septimius Severus Denarii - $100
Timoleon Greek Bronze - $190

I bought these from this guy on instagram, solid dude to buy from.
https://www.instagram.com/gordian_shop/

hehe, it finally paid off to refresh my regular german reseller every day for the past 5 months. They eventually refilled today and i immediately slurped the entire stock.

>>57449792
>>57449957
shit, I posted the wrong pic. Here is the correct lot.

>>57448176
What if you stacked neodymium?

>>57449792
>>57449957
>>57449976
other side. they look nicer in person.

>>57449984
It would be extremely painful.

>>57448176
Is this bullish for gold? Why is Brandon trying to manipulate gold sale

>>57448719
You tell me bud I don't touch anything with Chuck on it save for the crown one. Krugs 4 ever

>>57450006
That's true. It only sells for 107 USD per kilogram. You would need a lot of space for it. I'm still going to collect some neodymium magnets since they can be used to detect pure silver.

>>57449957
>>57449976
>>57449993
Nice stuff anon, do you remember the attribution for the $35 Greek bronze? I don't recognize that one. The chonky bronze from Syracuse is clearly an older collection coin, it definitely got fondled and loved years ago. It could probably benefit from judicious cleaning, details look sharp but seem a bit obscured by ancient dirt and more recent finger grease.

>>57448215
>>57448269
They see me stackin, they hatin, my blue skin tryna tarnish my silver.

>>57450038
So you won’t buy maples, britannias or anything from the Perth mint? That’s a lot of low premium coins to exclude from your stack

>>57450092
It's a matter of principle, bro. I'm content with my ASEs, krugs, and weird assed drunken auction house buys.

>>57449963
That’s around what i’d been getting it for.
Been in a slump.

>>57449744
>>57449789
>>57449957
>>57449976
Very nice stuff fren, you live in the US? I'm not familiar with US prices, and i guess it must be more expensive there for obvious reasons, so i'd say you did good for all these denarii. I often see those ones selling for around 40€ over here on ebay in similar condition, but i live literally on top of an ancient roman camp. That's great you managed to score them at approx the same price than close to the source!

For the greek one i'm not familiar with this specific bronze, can you tell us more about it? You believe you got a good deal for it?

>>57449672
>yea is hard to believe coins that old could look that good.
We are talking about an empire who ruled for nearly 800 years over an incredibly vast territory and who did all their transactions in coinage for the entirety of this duration. It's impossible for our mind to envision.
So it's not that hard to believe when you think about it, and we will continue to find back 2000yo roman coins in great condition for the next millenia and there will still be more buried under the ground or at the bottom of the mediterranean sea.
Over here medieval & feudal coins are much more expensive than roman coins, they are more recent but no kingdom in Europe came even near close to the mint production capacity of the romans.

>>57450117
Enjoy the premiums, bro.

>>57450130
Yeah it's close to a miracle to find them at those prices these days. It made my day!

>>57450039
You just ruined his Bane Joke, hope you're happy with yourself.

>>57450135
eNJOY SATAN9C RETILE COINS NBIGGER

>be a based Schizo and carry around a firearm and 16oz of gold on my at all times
I am unsuspecting person who looks like a bum since I have a bum/hobo clothing style.

>>57450135
>enjoy the premiums

I will. Thanks IQ. Here's a 2020 lib proof. The premium was so high if I tell you how much it was it might kill you. Who cares what people spend their money on. If it makes them happy, so be it.

>>57450326
Kek Nothing is more satanic than the coins of zog. Might as well stack shekels. Enjoy your mutt empire coins kek

>>57450415
Kek it will take you 500 years to break even on that 10,000% premium, bro. Enjoy bagholding a polished wetback medal Kek.

>>57450359
post moneybelt and beretta

>>57450359
VERY based. What’s your sidearm of choice? Tell me it’s a colt python with 3” barrel

>>57450447
people are gay for libertads, always have been.

>>57450133
Yes, I am in the US. The gentleman I buy my ancients from buys bigger lots from dealers in EU.

>For the greek one i'm not familiar with this specific bronze, can you tell us more about it? You believe you got a good deal for it?

Here is info on the bronze. It seemed pretty reasonable compared to the comps I saw, but I am no expert.
>Sicily, Syracuse Æ 24mm. Time of Timoleon and the Third Democracy, circa 343-317 BC. Laureate head of Zeus Eleutherios to right; ΖΕΥΣ ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΙΟΣ around / Upright thunderbolt; ΣYPAKOΣIΩN around.

>i live literally on top of an ancient roman camp.
Awesome, ever found anything metal detecting or anything like that?

>>57448176
Genuine question /pmg/. I think I'm in love. How much silver should I give her father as a present, when asking for his blessing? Or will this be incredibly cringe?
>inb4, yes she is a virgin

>>57450512
>Or will this be incredibly cringe?
Are you of a cultural where that's normal?

>>57450523
Absolutely not

>>57449614
Noice, who’d you order from? my bold order hadn’t shipped for two weeks.

>>57450466
>largest producer of silver comes from Mexican mines
>beautiful angel and bare breasts with awesome volcanoes in background
>gay

Anon, it's OK to say you can't afford them. Nobody is gay for wanting breasts on their coins.

>>57450512
Shouldn't he be the one offering silver to you?

>>57450597
Dude I have Pickle Ricks and other dumb shit. Wasn’t arguing against libertads, people will be gay for them in the future im sure.

>>57450083
>silver stacking
Check
>silver stuffing
Check
>silver sniffing
Check
>silver sipping
Check Check Check Check!

>>57450512
>anon blowing his silver load on a woman BEFORE the collapse

>>57450629
This, Kek. Never heard of offering money to take care if a woman. Sounds eastern european.

>>57450629
The dowry thing doesn't make sense to me (Bongland natives on all sides here): he has a daughter, I want her, therefore it makes sense that I give him something valuable, at least as a token gesture.

>>57450595
Based kookollection. I ordered from bold on 1/17.

>>57450560
Then don't.

>>57450665
Mmm I ordered on the 18th so maybe mine will how tomorrow, but I have t gotten a shipping confirmation

>>57450661
You may be forgetting your own value in the equation.

>>57450643
>not into boobs
>buys pickles

4everalone.jpeg

>>57450784
I came close 2 weeks ago. But I’m doing a “WEIGHT” centered approach right now after 2 years of flitting back and forth, Best to you. Yeah I bought a bunch of pickle ricks, that tells you how deep I was.

>>57450978
Its OK fren. Could be worse I suppose. You could be holding one of these lol

I too got few oldies by the mail today.
First this little ancient Greece bronze from -320 BC, Seleucus I Nicator, 7.3gr.

>>57451227
Not large, but thick and heavy in hand.

Where would I go to get a deceased relatives coin collection valued ?
I'm in Victoria Australia and could probably send pictures online. I'd like to pay an independent party to value them?

>>57451256
Don’t be a faggot.

Then half a dozen roman coins. I got them for 2 bux a pop from a lot of rare coins sold by someone who clearly didn't know (nor cared about) what he was selling lol. I got some pretty rare stuff from him, i need to take some pics to show you frens.

>>57451227
>>57451238
Beautiful obsidian black, good pick anon

>>57451288
And those 2€ romans were in nice condition too as you can see.

>>57451289
Thx fren, i love her too, there is always something special with greek coins, they are by far my favorites to fondle and look at.

I finally received this ptolemaic super bigboi too (46.2g). The pic really don't give it justice, but i took them in a hurry. Will do better another day. Only 54 bux, i couldn't wish for a better deal, got lucky on this one.

>>57448176
silver is dumb, buy gold

Now time for few rare coins i slurped from lots of junk for below spot.
First this silver 1 Korona 1892 from Hungary, only minted at 15,000 examplars. All the others years have been minted in the 10s of millions, but the first year only 15K were made.

>>57451366
Need to giver her a bath because she's all dirty and stinky.

Among a lot of british silver junk i slurped for 15% below spot were those South African and rare West British African colonies coins.

>>57451392
The 1920's 1 shilling was a hit : turned out it was the last issued year in silver, with a very low mintage, before they switched to nickel brass.

Could use a bit of cleaning too, those coins came in a filthy box.

>>57451227
>>57451238
Outstanding coin.

>>57448215
>COMEX
COOMEX

>>57451392
those are sick

>>57451512
Ohhhh God I'm draining the COOMEX!

>>57451485
Now i have Athena protecting my stack with her shield and threatening the thieves with her lance.

Going forward i think i'll focus most of my numismatic budget into slurping ancient greek coins. Idk how to word it, but they resonate with me, it's a feeling i do not have with any other coinage, my heart is pounding when i open the mail and see them for the first time irl.
It's like if my DNA was activating and i remember we aren't meant to live the grotesque goyslop lives we have. We are meant to be riding horses in the wilderness, tracking down a boar for a week, making one with nature, fighting for our survival, looking at the stars and kidnapping young women to imprenate them and feel like gods. I want to feel alive at least once in my senseless life.

>>57451581
Is this a lewd Shadowheart lol?

>>57451588
Agree about the Greek coins. They're the ones that resonate with me most. Bronze Age holds so much appeal to me.

>>57451609
Idk, I just saw it on /lgbt/ earlier and saved it.

>>57451644
>appeal to me too*

So any predictions on when gold and silver will go up like it did in 09,10, and 11?

Oh and if a fren can help me out with identifying this coin. She came up in a lot of medieval coins. She's a silver lightweight, about half a gram.

Most approaching stuff i could find is those tiny silver coins called Angster, Haller, etc.. minted by the free cities in Germany and Switzerland during the middle age, who had a special status.
Maybe from Lucerne like here ?
https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces291891.html

But i'm maybe completely missing the target, i've no idea what this is.

>>57451679

Gold and Silver don't go up, the fiat currency goes down.

>>57451679
I hope silver returns to it's natural state of $5/oz so that I can hoard massive piles of it.

>>57451715
ps : it's hard to tell the perspective on the pic, but the coin isn't flat, it's shaped like a bowl almost, only the middle is flattened. You can tell it's a thin sheet of silver violently struck and all the extra metal around the die is envelopping it.

>>57451644
>Idk, I just saw it on /lgbt/ earlier and saved it.
It's a character from BG3. I didn't have the patience to play the game, but i enjoyed watching the game movie (by GML). She basically is a sweet MK Ultra waifu you have to save from her satanic handlers who made her into a MK assassinating slut.

>>57450117
Morgan a cutie.

its samsung and LG that need ur silver and gold not the well to do housewife and her daughter

>>57451679
$30 by 2030 garenteed

Ancients gang.

>>57451256
That sovereign is worth like a grand in AUD. What coins have you got?

Are they all PM or others? I can probably point you in the right direction for price. Numista is a good website for non pm coins

>>57451366
Nice stuff, where did you find them?

>>57451715
Curious piece, but I haven't a clue. Sorry.

>>57451783
Ah, I see.

>>57452709
Alexanders! <3

3 months now of gold holding above $2000.

Is this the new floor? The end of cheapies forever?

Good morning frens

>>57453769
Seeing that when the derivatives market collapses an ounce of gold will buy a modest house, $2k is cheap as fuck.

>>57449755
Checked. Since I made that post I had been looking at other sources and have been eyeing the AGE.
The question now is: can I get a second ounce before an event that makes gold much more expensive?
I'm wondering about actually having to use it and whether it'd be better to get 4 Sovereigns (plus some grams to make it 1 ozt) for divisibility.
4 quarter-ounce AGE or even Maples (I'm in Canada) are options as well, though, a bit pricier.

>>57450359
How much gold do you have in total if you're willing to risk having 16 oz on you? After all, freak incidents that can knock you out can still happen.

>>57454407
always get the eagles if you are in North America. The liquidity is the best second to eagles are buffalos and then Maples. Quarter ounce eagles are extremely liquid as are silver american eagles.

>>57454868
I don't doubt the liquidity, but the problem with American Silver Eagles is the high premium right now. One used to be able to buy them a few dollars over the spot price, but no longer. Stacking Canadian maples is way better considering that even if silver were worthless, your maples would still be worth 5 Canadian dollars, whereas a silver eagle is worth 1 USD. Canadian maples have better security features too.

>>57454868
>>57454917
Thanks for the considerations. Sure is a lot to this.

>>57454927
Stacking Buffalos is more reasonable than stacking ASEs at this point. Undeniably, if you live in the US, you can trade these coins for cash, but for the ASE, the premium does matter. Why not just consider that silver maples and Britannias are sold for cheaper premiums and offer more security?

holy fuck prachtexemplar bu please

>>57454927
Anon, what to stack really depends on what your goals are. If your goal behind stacking is truly:
>time when gold spikes/is reevaluated/backs a currency
Then lol, lmao even. It's never happening. Governments have money printers and it in no way behooves them to give up that power for sound money. The entire global economy depends on this continuing. Even if such an event were to occur (it won't), it'd be apocalyptic and there's no way to predict what would have a better exchange rate in this fantasy new world order. Might as well stack bottle caps or anything else that might tickle your fancy.

Interesting additions to my stack this morning, lads.
>Ancient Greek Silver - Alexander III Tetradrachm, Heracles Obverse/Zeus Reverse: $225
>Tantalum Metal Rod (1" long, 53g+): $60

The rod was a spur of the moment buy because it was a good $20-30 cheaper than anything comparable I could find online.

>>57454917
>One used to be able to buy them a few dollars over the spot price
Those were the days. 15% ebay cashback on top of this. Got this in 2018.

>>57455129
Never happening - and yet banks are buying gold at record levels. Curious.

Governments have PAPER printers. And that power has limits that governments cannot control. The USD has the power of money only because it once was backed by gold and the world got used to it. The world can walk away from it too, if it gets painful enough to hold on. And that seems to be the direction of things.

But I agree that it is rather far-fetched to speculate on which gold or silver coin or round is going to be most desirable in a future world.

normally i only buy bullion, but this one tempts me...

dammit when is Slver going to moon?
I dont want to go to work.

>>57455472
isn't that bullion too? no excuses now, anon

>>57451715
>i've no idea what this is.
It's worthless, that's what it is!
>about half a gram.
Kektop!
But joking aside, I kinda really wanna get into buying random lots of random shit and then seeing if I got anything good. But mony and time are a bit tight right now (and probably for the foreseeable future), so I'll just stick to shitposting.

>>57448176
anything with a general is a scam.

>>57450645
what a fucking hambeast, why would you post this

>>57455436
Central banks also stack foreign currencies in their reserves. Curious? No, not really. Gold is just one financial asset that banks use as a diversified store of value.
>The USD has the power of money only because it once was backed by gold
This is such a reductionist and uninformed take. The USD became the world reserve currency, because post-WWII we were the only major power whose economy wasn't utterly decimated by the war and being the victors and the strongest standing industrial power, we decided the post-war nations needed access to capital through trade rather than empire, since that's what caused the war. That's why we built up the German and Japanese economies and enabled them to be the major economies that they are today. Their BTFO countries didn't start using the USD post-war because "oh it's backed by gold lol." And if you think the world is walking away from the USD because it's "painful," then lmao, lmfao even. If you think the USD is bad, just wait til you learn about other currencies. Inb4 muh BRICS+KEK

>>57455499
My sources tell me in about 2 weeks.

>>57455365
Nice. Is that the horned Alexander? Very cool picks.

>>57455612

>>57455129
>burf durf fiat is invincible cuz i say soooo
yawn

>>57453769
The last time "cheapies"existed for Gold was about May of 2019, those days are gone and its one way traffic from here on out.

Lads, may i introduce you to our new Silver FUD Poster Boy Jeff, This idiot sold 3372oz of Silver for $111k a few years back which even right now is a good price but not when Silvers real value should be $1000+ an ounce and multiples more come another few years.

When any glowie fud faggots come in trying to derail and disrupt the general just refer to them as Jeff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdw5Dvb-XBk

>>57455394
damn, cheapies so yummy

How do I buy gold and silver?

>Pocahontas and friends are threatenig the FED to lower rates
>Big banks threatening to sue the FED for wanting banks to hold 30% cash reserves

clown world shitshow still gets worse by the minute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pGhTSEDLqk

>>57456101
>sold 3372oz of Silver for $111k a few years back which even right now is a good price
So a few years back (say 5) if he had invested in a DOW index fund, he would have made a 50% gain and been able to buy 5000 ozt now.
I'm getting a mixed message about Jeff being a good thing or not.

>>57456101
>sold 3372oz of Silver for $111k a few years back which even right now is a good price
So a few years back (say 5) if he had invested in a DOW index fund, he would have made a 50% gain and been able to buy 5000 ozt now.
I'm getting a mixed message about Jeff being a good thing or not.

>>57456101
Glowie fud faggots won't dare disrupt our general if we call them Jeff! They hate that.

>>57455943
Damn, if only I'd started buying in [insert date here]. There have been some pretty tasty dips, but at this point I'm just glad to be along for the ride.

>>57456405
>"Start the van, Jeff. We've got work to do."

>>57455018
I was thinking about gold, but in the event gold needs to come into play due to debt/other economic change, I suppose they'd both climb together?

>>57455129
I guess the other way to look at it is that I don't want to be without gold/silver in the event that it becomes necessary.
But I'm not entirely sure a situation where the local dollar goes way down and metals stay around where they are or even rise can happen.
Like what stops them from printing to stay afloat and introducing a new paper/digital currency? "Some kind of trade in your old get the new!" period.
Yet I suppose in that situation having metals to sell would give one more freedom/value than government would be willing to hand out for 'free' when introducing a new currency?

>>57455129
>Then lol, lmao even. It's never happening. Governments have money printers and it in no way behooves them to give up that power for sound money. The entire global economy depends on this continuing. Even if such an event were to occur (it won't), it'd be apocalyptic and there's no way to predict what would have a better exchange rate in this fantasy new world order. Might as well stack bottle caps or anything else that might tickle your fancy.
I kinda agree with you: There's way too many anons that see a total collapse AND a total revaluation of gold (and even more so, silver, because, well, because!!) as guaranteed. And well, it just isn't guaranteed. Possible? Yes, though probably not the Mad Max scenario. But it's also totally possible that it wont happen and the can keeps getting kicked forever.
Me, I just try to play both games. Sure. I won't end up being a wasteland-lord buying hundreds of BJ's a day with his tons of silver if the mad-maxers are right since I also got some normie-tier investments instead and I won't end up with a Lambo, since quite a bit of my money is tied up in gold and silver instead of yolo-stocks and crypto, but I won't be fucked in either scenario either.
Also: I got plenty of bottle caps too!
Fun fact:
I'm currently watching a documentary about the end of the roman empire.
Guess what killed it.

>>57455666
Not gonna argue with Satan.
>>57455728
>If-only-you-know-how-bad-things-really-are.coin
Seriously, WTF where they thinking? All of the GDR commemorative coins looks like shit.
>>57456496
>I'm currently watching a documentary about the end of the roman empire.
>Guess what killed it.
It was the combination of
>a pandemic
Check (kinda)
>foreign invaders
Check (kinda)
>debasing their money/money printer goes brrrrr
check
>climate change
check

>>57455943
I looked back at the prices from when I had my first job. I wish I was aware back then.
Building up a stack slowly on the side would've been different than considering a more major start right now.
Part of me feels like I'm being too worried over the potential impact of this conflict and what could happen if the US gets more involved after that drone scenario.
On one hand all that happened with gold/silver is that the price rose a lot over the years following 9/11, but they didn't become necessary, you know? So I feel like that's all that will happen here. It'll become more expensive but not necessary.
On the other hand there's all this mounting debt, talk of soft landings, rate cuts, bailouts (for this year). How long can a system keep racking up debt? Who can really call the debt owners to suddenly pay?

>>57456488
>what stops them from printing to stay afloat and introducing a new paper/digital currency?
I think those sorts of steps are just assumed in a currency collapse scenario, right? They're going to try printing, redenominating, and replacing.

it's only after all those have failed several times that people will be forced to use other things for money. But even before people are forced to, an increasing number of people would be trading goods instead of fiat anyways.

Reality isn't dichotomous, and your fantasies shouldn't be either. If silver and gold gain traction as money, it won't be sudden, and it won't be because of any single event. Nor will it be stopped by any single event. There are people using gold and silver as money right now. It's just a question of how many, and how soon.

>>57456572
>It was the combination of
>>a pandemic
>Check (kinda)
>>foreign invaders
>Check (kinda)
>>debasing their money/money printer goes brrrrr
>check
>>climate change
>check
Well, fuck.
But hey, it took a few hundred years!
so who cares, my kids grandkids can deal with this shit.

>>57456597
the fall of rome took longer than the US has existed.

>>57456626
Tha's the point I was trying to make.
But again:
Past performance is no indicator of future performance or something like that.
It's gonna be interesting anyways.h

>>57456650
If it happened right now, silver and gold would be used for trade along with whatever people have on hand simply because people right now remember silver and gold as being valuable.

If we get to a point several generations down the line where silver and gold aren't valuable and nobody alive remembers them being valuable then they'd be less likely to be used as money I think. Either way, people are going to trade what they have on hand, and most people don't have silver and gold to use as money even if they do get used that way again.

>>57456488
A diversified portfolio that includes physical gold is smart if you're a touch paranoid, but it's not the be all end all (far from it). The the global order has no interest in nuking itself into oblivion through money printing. There are far too many connected parties in global capitalism to just let that happen. The world isn't as simple as that (but a lot of schizoid stackers believe it is).

>>57456496
>not banking on BJs from futa orcs in a fire-shooting, lifted Lambo during a Mad Max post-apocalypse
>NGMI
In all seriousness though, I agree with the sentiments. I like gold and silver coins and I'm admittedly into them far heavier than financially makes sense, but my other investments earn me more and should become increasingly bigger percentages of my portfolio going forward. Coins feel more like a hobby to me these days. Nothing ever happens, shit never hits the fan, etc.
>I'm currently watching a documentary about the end of the roman empire.
>Guess what killed it.
Was it debasement of the currency and diluting the Roman population through over-extending the empire? What's the name of the documentary?

>>57456496
muh mad max scenario is a strawman
a currency collapse is mathematically certain. it won't be as catastrophic as you think. it'll make PM holders have a shit ton more purchasing power tho

>>57456496
It's funny how everyone blames the fall of the Roman Empire on currency debasement. You could also argue that they perused an early inflationary-like policy and that it's one of the reasons the empire was so successful and long-lived.

>>57456750
Mad Max is increasingly possible as people rely more and more on technologies for their survival that are relatively easy to disrupt or take out entirely. That was sorta one of the big themes of the apocalypse movies. If your entire society can't function without gasoline or cars you've got a weak spot. Since that came out we've developed a lot of other weak spots. Targets really. I think that's why the thread has always encouraged stacking food and land and water and knowledge. Most people alive today can't live on their own, and that's going to be a problem at some point.

>>57456734
>not banking on BJs from futa orcs in a fire-shooting, lifted Lambo during a Mad Max post-apocalypse
>NGMI
Guess I'm going for that Lambo, at least.
>Was it debasement of the currency
Yes. Also. See >>57456572
>and diluting the Roman population through over-extending the empire?
Probably played a part too
>What's the name of the documentary?
https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/098123-000-A/rom-untergang-einer-weltmacht/
Seems like they don't have an english version, only German and French.
>>57456750
>a currency collapse is mathematically certain.
Now I'm really interested in those maths. Sure, not ruling it out, but >certain ?
2 more weeks, I guess.

>>57456723
>If we get to a point several generations down the line where silver and gold aren't valuable and nobody alive remembers them being valuable
well, silver will always be seen as valuable unless we all stop using technology.

>>57456791
true. i think one thing that will happen in the near future is rolling blackouts being more and more common, all over the west. imagine losing power for a few hours being a common event that happens 1-2 times a week. that'll be very disruptive and make a lot of internet tech things (cough crypto cough) seem a lot worse in terms of utility.

>>57456812
>silver will always be seen as valuable unless we all stop using technology.
broadly speaking there's 3 major categories of possible future that I've read or can imagine, and all of them result in us stopping the use of personal technology.

what we're doing isn't sustainable, it's just a question of how long it takes to collapse, and what happens next.

>>57456842
yes, that's already happening in our most populous areas in the US.

>>57456808
muh 2 more weeks meme doesn't make unsustainable things sustainable

>>57456808
ENGLISH ONLY USA!!! Enjoy plowing your fields inna Lambo.

>>57451355
checked and based

>>57456916
lambo started off as a tractor maker, que no?
ferrari started off making boats?

>>57456960
PM D&C is cringe and not based, fren

>>57455666
Your argument was at least plausible until you said that the USA issued a world currency and built up Germany and Japan to promote world peace. Hahahahaha!

>>57456228
Local coin stores (LCS), on-line dealers, ebay, and individuals in person.

>>57456988
that guy is such a faggot, saying "empire" is what caused WWII, lol

>>57456593
Yes, the US government will print money for as long as it can to keep the party going. But when it is over, it's over. The problem with the redenomination or replacement of the USD, that has not existed with any other hyperinflationary collapse, is that it is a global currency. Maybe they could force a replacement on Americans domestically, but why the fuck would Singapore or Taiwan or France or Mexico accept a new USD from the government that just fucked them over worse than they have been fucked over? The answer is that they wouldn't. When the USD hyperinflates, its day as global currency is done. That means there WILL be other currencies circulating. What they will be nobody can say, but the notion that the entire planet is going to turn the other cheek and use some Federal Reserve shitcoin is ridiculous. Fifty years ago, maybe. Today? Not a chance.

>>57457098
I think he's right, just not the empire most people would point to. The british empire was a serious economic problem at the time, and the only way to compete or even survive against it was to build an empire of your own.

>>57455929
>>57456988
>>57457098
Not counter arguments (:

>>57456966
>tfw not Lambo tractor or Ferrari boat

>>57457126
the one arguing that america's fiat currency is invincible (unlike any other fiat currency) is the one who needs an argument

>>57457125
The dollar is fading out as a global currency either way. Replacement would speed that up, but it's going to happen even if the dollar remains one of the strongest currencies in the world. It's a placeholder, not a savings account. And it doesn't matter much what you call a set of numbers on a screen.

>>57457151
the problem in the recent past was that humans can't keep up with real time arbitrage in an inflationary scenario, let alone hyperinflation.

computers have fixed that problem. Arbitrage is barely even possible now because we've written code to jump on it every time it shows up. This doesn't help the average person with fiat problems, but it sure helps governments and corporations that can afford to field that sort of software. At that point there essentially is a global currency, because conversion from one currency to another is possible nearly instantaneously, and adjusting the value of a trade in fiat takes place in fractions of a second. We're close to the point where it simply doesn't matter how one currency performs against another.

>>57457126
>>tfw not Lambo tractor or Ferrari boat
Can I interest you in a nice, red, Porsche then?

>>57457319
The problem with the globalization of currency for both nations and individuals is it puts all of the power in the hands of a few. Literally all the power on earth into the hands of the self-appointed world police.

Shutting a person out of the financial system is now possible, just like shutting entire nations out. And neither nations nor people like having that sword hanging over their heads.

which is why this thread exists.

>>57457151
Oh, so you have no counter argument in support of your crackpot predictions? Ofc you don't, because you doomer schizos are always fucking retards lol.

>>57457327
>this makes Amerisharts piss and cry on their John Deere

>>57457386
well, they tried shutting russia out and it backfired big time
the system isn't as all powerful as some think

>>57457408
>>this makes Amerisharts piss and cry on their John Deere
All the while Hans is happy, hauling hay in his Mercedes Benz.

>>57457327
this is a fren of mine. he collects tractors.

>>57457477
collecting old vintage tractors sounds pretty based fren

>>57457437
Europeans get all the fancy things while us Burgers have McDonaldified versions.

>>57457477
How nice of you to post a photo of his children on 4channel lmao.

>>57457584
is't it lmao
the guy on the right is jeff. the fren who makes poor stock picking choices

>>57456984
except if it's king chuck's silver, then we have a problem

>>57455728
I thought this was a Ferengi from the thumbnail, kek
>>57455472
Do it, I got one, no ragrets

>>57457602
true, i don't buy that shit
plenty of better coin alternatives now

>>57448176
90% stackers report in

>>57457743
love me peace dollars

>>57457760
them some beautiful Peace dollars

>>57448176
>"precious" metals
>posts a picture of silver
lol, lmao even

>>57457784
it is a precious metal, yes
glad we could clear this up for you fren

Crypto nerds will seethe

>>>/wsg/5434375

>>57457872
>Touchstone
whoa thats pretty neat.
love this host's old Egypt exploration / documentary shows.
wish we had stuff like this nowadays.

>>57457743

>>57457743
Really miss when those were cheap. Never to return.

>>57457727
i was trying to bait a response but i didn't expect it to not only be an agreement but also from the same person who said PM D&C was cringe

>>57457743

>>57458111
I miss when junk silver was considered junk.

>>57458445
I got some at spot recently like the good old days, pulled out of a house fire. Still cleaned up nicely.

>>57456593
>>57456734
That's some helpful perspective, thanks. Especially about it not being sudden.

>>57456842
That's an interesting point. Hunh.

>>57458190
love the frosty pure white lustre on those dimes..
I like a brilliant shine of 90% silver. but that frosty white silver lustre is a thing of natural beauty.
Ive got a few Washington silver quarters that show that kind of white lustre. my favorites. i think i like it more than the shiny finish of a proof stamped silver coin

>>57457946
beautiful.
wheat? is that French?

>>57458738
>is that French?
lol i just noticed the filename.

>>57458738
>wheat?
Yes

>>57458838
God Bless the French Farmers

>>57456361
>people start stacking physical silver
>the fed wants to put an end to it
>fed raises rates to significantly dry up liquidity (which can be used to acquire physical silver)
>globohomo squeezes and tears itself up
We just can't stop winning lmao.

>>57458876
Shaken, not stirred.

WHY WE STACK
Why We Buy Gold: The Secret Wealthy Investors Learned from History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6tBFv9hZRo

WAGMI

>>57459458
why we stack? cuz we are BASED

>>57459504
Based Club members, rise up.
A toast,... to making it.

Ugh. So I've been doing monthly silver purchases right around $200 to get free shipping. But it's starting to look like my discretionary budget in 2024 will be much tighter than I anticipated. Where can I get good deals for smaller purchases? Is Liberty Coin my best bet?

>>57459702
LCS?

>>57458111
>>57458445
>>57458457
Just run an ad offering to buy at 16x/$1fv and you'll never have an issue

>>57459702
Hero or bold does 149, one of those
>>57459734
Like in a newspaper?

>>57459702
i've been trying some different places online like mountvernoncoins
some of their items are 25% lower than "other" well known online places.
i think every place is still a hit and miss hunt and peck comparisoin shopping multiple vendors though as far as items available and related pricing

>>57459725
I visited a LCS but I was a little unsure about it. What would be considered to be a good deal for a generic round at a LCS? I think they were selling for something like $3 or 4 over spot.

>>57459762
Mine does $1.50 to $2 over right now

>>57459741
>Like in a newspaper?
or facebook or the community board at the library or grocery store or whatever people are using nowadays.

>>57459776
>FB
good way to make yourself a target for home invasion robbery maybe?

>>57459786
need a bogus facebook account or better privacy settings

>>57456228
Costco. They’ve sold 1oz gold lady fortuna bars, and are now selling tubes of 20 ASEs

>>57459995
weird im even seeing gold and silver coins and coin sets for sale at walmart, onlie anyways.
not sure if thats google fuckery or if its real.

>>57460008
>walmart
I think they’re kind of a middle man for other retailers. So I’m sure their website has some.

>>57460008
As for their stores? I seriously doubt they’ll ever have PMs available

>>57460008
walmart operates like amazon that allows retailers to sell their products through their website

>>57448176
Should I keep my world silver?
I have about 200 toz. I got them around spot and cataloged them. At the time I was pretty nostalgic and enjoyed holding real money that people valued and will value. With all the talk of cbdc, handing down these coins to my kids in a few decades seemed like a no brainer.
Unfortunately, they take up a fair amount of space and without knowledge (or being burdened with an estate) my kids may overlook this. It's only 200 oz - why not swap it out for bars?

>>57460103
DO NOT PART WITH THOSE NOW
explain to your kids what they are if necesarry.
at least hold them for now and sell laterif you want after silver/numismatic moon

>>57460145
That's my sentiment, however I saw my parents' reaction to their parents' death and liquidating the estate
>fuck this shit. Anyone want it? Nope? Trash!
I don't want to sell them for a dealer to send to be melted, but I also don't want to carry them for 3 decades only for them to be thrown away.

>>57460248
can you explain them yo your kids do you think they will uderstand?
even if theyre not "in love" with tthem, maybe they can understand asnd appreciate the idea that, in another 50 years or more, they could be worth alot of money?

>>57460248
>I saw my parents' reaction to their parents' death and liquidating the estate
You need to put a valuation of the total in /on the front of each book. Don't have a valuable collection of beanie babies or Hummel figurines.

Also raise your kids to not be boomers. instill within them a feeling of the superiority of stacking silver/gold.

>>57460248
frist explain to them that just because the coin holder is labelled "10 cents", that doesn't mean thats what its worth as sale price, lol.

>>57459773
Cool. I will see if I can find one with better pricing.

>>57460292
kek
>>57460278
That was my thinking. I added up the total silver weight and was going to put an index with retard instructions
>this binder contains X silver
>go Google silver price and multiply that by X
>that is the minimum value of this binder.
My grandpa was a hoarder. In typical boomer fashion, they made split second decisions to empty the house and get it on market.
>Dad's 8 track collection? Let's order a dumpster!
I can accept some of that logic. You're grieving, have a taxing job, and now have the stress of dealing with a second household to eliminate. A binder of old coins on the shelf is getting tossed. A 100oz bar in the safe isn't.
>>57460277
My kids are all 5 years old or younger and I'm doing my part. My main focus is whether the fight of holding 3 binders of coins is worth the headaches (storage, damage, loss, ...) or do I consolidate.
Weighing the risk and headaches vs the appreciation of passing a 1940 coin that'd be 110-120 years old is burdensome. It's an equation of practicality, neumasmatic speculation, risk, and education which I could use help calculating.

>>57460429
>My grandpa was a hoarder.
My aunt was a hoarder, boxes with stuff spanning 60 years of history (ww2 ration books, modern magazines, silverware bought in 1961, random envelopes with scribbled journal entries) her condo got cleaned out by my brother and I - we went through a lot of stuff. Her house got cleaned out by her daughter and aunt's bros/sis they tossed filing cabinets and full boxes into the dumpsters

>A 100oz bar in the safe isn't.
unless the safe is locked and doesn't have a combination.

>>57460429
>f holding 3 binders of coins is worth the headaches
i think it would be a mistake. sounfs like your fixated on it for some reason.
a few 3 ring bunders is literally nothgin if you put it up in the closet or in the basement or the attic or whatever.

imagine what the world will be like in 3 or 4 decades from now. it could be we no longer have paper cash currency or any kind of metal coin currency.
much of it may well get melted down between now and then.
look at the prices of coins from the 1700s and the 1800s, like early american coins.
these things potentially bevome rare numismatics over a time of 50 years or more.
no one can reliably predict it. also even the possibility that even melt value could iteraly sky rocket between now and then.
seem like you could store it away and forget about it for now and see what the interest or the values are in ten years or so.
i look at it like guns. one of those categories of items you will probably regret getting rid of.
at very least it seems quite lkely metal prices to go up maybe considerably in the future

>>57460475
My grandmas place was robbed by pro thieves after she passed. The sterling was probably just an afterthought after the ivory collection and some very obscure and valuable antiques.

>>57460475
>we went through a lot of stuff
That's my sentiment.
My grandpa was nearly 100 when he passed, still living at home. This might bring tears to my eyes, but the night before he died, he tried to go down to the basement. He fought his daughter who was caring for him.
His daughter calmed him by getting him to agree to wait until tomorrow when his son showed up.
I think he sensed he was about to die and wanted to uncover something.
He died that night.
That still haunts me. He had silver and gold and at least $50,000 in cash.
He was a product of the Great Depression.
What did his kids miss?
I'm the type that'd value every piece of paper from an inheritance. I'd look in every nook and crevasse.
That's sadly not everyone's logic as you know from experience.
These coins are the least of my pm collection. Today, after collecting for years I'm not positive of the value or what'd I'd get from a coin shop. Rolling the dice and thinking my kids could do better in 30-40 years seems risky
>sounds like your fixated on it for some reason.
It's only 200oz - +/- $400 is nothing to me. I expect to finally have a 7 figure estate this year.
I am emotionally attached to world silver; these typically span from 1840 - 1955.
Holding one of these coins is magical. It's history. I remember taking $1.10 to school every day to eat.
If I lost my money, I didn't eat.
That dollar bill and dime was my livelihood. It made or broke my day.
I hold an 80 year old sixpence and think the same thing. This was everything to some kid in war time London.
Fast forward to where the writing on the wall screams of CBDC. Digital currency. 'Money' is merely how many useless good boy points the company store wrote for you. The erasing of history.
>you could store it away and forget about it for now and see what the interest or the values are in ten years
That's my dichotomy. Convert it to bullion or lug binders around for life and let my kids deal with it. There's the middle ground of 'wait and see'.

>>57460482
forgot you >>57460652
Holding a sixpence from 1910 or 1940 and thinking that was someone like me in 1st grade. Scared, alone, hungry, and being dependent on those coins - and the amazing reality of at least THEIR coin held that value and I can use that today to obtain the same thing - is the root of my attraction.
I hold their coin and imagine it saw famine and bombs and births and deaths. Tears and joy.
People valued that coin back then and people value that coin today.
That's real money. That's what I want to impart to my kids.
I guess the crux of the question is
>Is hauling around 200oz of world coins for my life worth the appreciation in numismatics?
>much of it may well get melted down between now and then.
That's my case. 30 years ago, who cared about a peace dollar?
>i look at it like guns
Having been a gun dealer I see two perspectives
>Gen 2 Glock
It's worthless
>Mosin Nagant or K31
2-3X since ~ 2010
Silver is less radical, but in normie minds I expect would conjure comparisons to beanie babies or baseball cards
>Dad stacked silver? Psh, that was hot like 20 years ago. Whatever, loser. Does he have a Mark McGuire baseball card too? Hahahaha.

>>57460429
I don't liquidate stuff like that just because I own my home and it's a big home so storing some shit in the closet or safe is no big deal. I'm paying for the storage whether I use it or not so I might as well use it. And it's not like cashing it in would help me financially, I don't need the little bit of money. Usually when I sell that sort of thing I live to regret it.

Yeah, my kids are going to sell my junk when I die, and it will sell cheap. But that's not my problem. I've made them aware of which bits are valuable, and some of my collection is willed to museums. Some of it has already been donated to a museum. But junk that isn't worthy of a museum or a rich person's personal collection is going to get liquidated and that's fine. Part of accepting your own eventual death is realizing everything you own is temporary, and your family probably doesn't want it. Enjoy it if it brings you joy. Sell it to someone else that will enjoy it if it doesn't. Or toss it in a closet and forget about it for a few decades and see what happens. It's not hurting you to own it unless it's actually in your way. And if that's the case I'd figure out a better way to store it is all. Plenty of ways to get a few binders of coins out of your room. Even rented places usually have a few nooks or cupboards that could hold something like that. If they get stolen don't worry about it, make a police report and then cut it loose. Don't let your things own you. But that doesn't mean you have to get rid of them, or worry about what happens to them when you're gone.

>>57460103
>fair amount of space
>only 200 oz

fucking pick one. thats not alot; not unless you live in a backpack

>>57460652
>>57460429
>My kids are all 5 years old or younger and I'm doing my part.

I started collecting when I was 5, but often it can take until teenage years for the seed of interest to germinate so I'd just wait and watch for 5-10 years to see what kind of individuals your kids become. My 4 year old loves playing with and sorting my old coins, and my 6 year old frequently comes to me asking "can you please show and tell me about some more of your ancient artifacts?" which I'm always happy to do, I've spent upwards of an hour at times telling her the stories of various antiquities which she digests with unwavering attention and interest, really makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside lol. Hopefully it develops into a genuine lifelong appreciation like it did in me when my dad and grandpa exposed me to coins and antiques as a little kid, no way to know but you'll have the best odds if you introduce your kids to your treasures as soon as they can be trusted to not accidentally swallow them.

>>57460858
are those cody knives? Great stuff!

>>57460923
Hey BB, top middle and right are European Neolithic sickles, for harvesting whatever varieties of tasty ancient grains they were growing back then

>>57460952
thanks I was wondering. I've probably asked you that question before and forgot kek

I've seen similar items collected on the plains up by Ft. Collins so I wondered. I've got a large triangular cody knife I found locally but couldn't find my pic of the thing. It was found with a collection of butchering flakes they apparently prepared at a kill site. Definitely not grain country!

>>57460803
>fair amount of space
>only 200 oz
These are sterling down to 50% silver.
Toss in binders and flips it's equivalent to a backpack full of books.
I have a lot of kids. I'm missing in the housing department, but my house is paid off and I can't stomach the current housing market.
I have 100oz in one 50 cal ammo can.
These binders are 4X that size.
>>57460858
>that pic
my childhood was filled with very memorable archaeology digs and walks with my dad.
I bought a few pounds of pre-Euro junk and my 3 & 5 year old eat it up and hoard the coins at every opportunity.
I think you're right. Give it time.
>>57460778
If you're the USPS anon, I'd give a year's worth of vacation to absorb your mind.
>my kids are going to sell my junk when I die, and it will sell cheap
Agreed. 200oz of silver is nothing in comparison to what I spend, and will spend on them.
>Junk that isn't worthy of a museum or a rich person's personal collection is going to get liquidated and that's fine
It's in the holder of the value to determine what junk is or isn't. A druggie finds value in scrap copper. A modern wealthy person finds it an annoyance.
>Everything you own is temporary, and your family probably doesn't want it
Life advice and a sentiment that I could have condensed to this.
>That doesn't mean you have to get rid of them, or worry about what happens to them when you're gone.
Thank you, anon. Whoever you are. A $4,000 coin collection doesn't matter to anyone else and the last of my energy should be spent fretting about it or how it will impact my kids in 30 years. I'll toss them away and see if if it can impart some wisdom as they grow up.

>>57461042
>I have 100oz in one 50 cal ammo can.
**almost 1,000oz
>>57460858
Circa 2000, a clovis point was the bees knees. I've been tempted on ebay recently as they've depreciated substantially (maybe they're all fake)

>>57461042
>If you're the USPS anon, I'd give a year's worth of vacation to absorb your mind.
I've sold off a lot of coins over my life that I now wish I hadn't. That's all. Stuff that's done an easy 10-20x over the last 20 years and stuff that honestly made me happy to hold. If it makes you happy, keep it. Even if that means taking them out of the binders and tossing them in a can or jar. It don't matter either way, but if you like them, keep them.

>>57461078
>they've depreciated substantially (maybe they're all fake)
some fakes but mostly we had a bunch of boomer collections liquidated with the coof. Some absolutely fabulous stuff came up for sale at really low prices.

Jesus christ someone post more silver this fucking thread is half full of some nigger losing his mind over a goddamn binder and 200 oz TEACH THEM TO STACK RETARD

>>57461189
Thanks, it's important to divide people up based on their interests and motivations and then get rid of the ones you don't agree with. Surely there's enough like minded person on the board to keep the conversation afloat. Carry on.

>>57461189
Will this do?

>>57461258
gay
>>57461294
based

>>57461351
You've been here a while. You've probably seen what I have. The thread has gone from stack heavy discussion to a lot of coin collecting discussion. Whatever the reason, I'm not sure you have enough stacking purists onboard and posting all day to keep the thing bumped. Most of your prolific posters are either trolls, or coin collectors, or both.

>>57461294
That's beautiful.

>>57461189
>getting grouchy and yelling at people for no reason
Take your meds grampa.

>>57461351
>14 stars
commie insurgents get the rope

I miss him. I'll always cherish the random Soviet pins and wallet calendars he included with my orders.

since people are posting rocks, i figure i can contribute. found in NW bay of Rainy Lake way back in the 80s when the water was several feet low. its the only rock i own

>>57461189
>someone post more silver this fucking thread
I seem to have missed your stack posted.
Which one is it?

I fucking love tungsten

>Ormonde Mining
>Apollo Minerals Limited
>Blackheath Resources
>Jiangxi Tungsten Industry
>Wolf Minerals
>Hunan Nonferrous Metals
>China Tungsten and Hightech Materials Co.,Ltd
>W Resources
>Almonty Industries
>China Minmetals Corp
>Xiamen Tungsten
>Plymouth Minerals

Any weeb here who can help me identify this mark?

Also, anyone knows how this decoration/order is called? We see it on every official/diplomat from the late Meiji era in photos and movies, and i can't find it for the life of me. Jewgle is utterly useless in 2000+24 it's just mindblowing.

Goldchads... our Silversisters ain't doing so well...

And while we are at it, if a weeb can tell me what's written on those cufflinks..
Apparently all those were owned by a nip diplomat during the 1910s, but i've no way to verify this claim.

>>57461752
Buy an ad.

7oz gold
600oz silver
1oz platinum
1oz palladium

>>57461752
Silver Dragon is no silver sister of mine. All the cointoobers are kinda cringe and chuddy desu (aside from the ancient cointoobers who are enlightening and based).

>>57461637
>>57461722
>>57461753
Cool things, but I can't help decode. Sorry.

>>57461845
Are those your stack stats?
(If so - nice!)

>>57461753
One says “ Fu” (luck) the other says “Lu” (wealth)- there is also shi and another one making the four good lucks- wife told me this.


Could be Japanese using similar Chinese symbols but not sure, the luck thing sounds about right.

>>57461753
One says “ Fu” (luck) the other says “Lu” (wealth)- there is also shi and another one making the four good lucks- wife told me this

>>57461294
>>57461416
i remember when that came out. a lot of /pmg/ guys bought one including me. we all said it was the best kook ever.

>>57461918
Do you happen to hate taxes?

>>57461912
>>57461918
So you telling me it most likely of chink origin instead of nip? I'm not really buying the diplomat story, but if this is in mandarin it's most likely low value crap from alibaba and the entire seller's story fall flat.

And this is why i never purchase anything with moonrunes on it. Anytime you think you may have found something cool it turn out to be garbage. Only western yuro oldies never disappoint when you are looking for legitimate nice, old items to own.

>>57462027
that makes sense

>>57460980
>found with a collection of butchering flakes they apparently prepared at a kill site

Badass, I don't have many native American artifacts, found a few middling pieces but nothing too special. I have a few cliff shelter spots I've come across in mind i'd love to try digging+sifting someday, seeing vids of glorious caches people sometimes find has definitely piqued my interest.

>>57462006
>but if this is in mandarin it's most likely low value crap from alibaba and the entire seller's story fall flat.

Juxtaposed with this: >>57461637 which looks like either old Chinese "export silver" or pre-1920s Japanese silver I think they are also antique pre-WW2 Chinese export silver which was usually at least .900 pure IIRC. Doubt they're worth a whole lot but I'd proceed under the assumption they're good silver.

good evening anons

>>57462147
Use caution collecting artifacts. Stick to private property and get the land owner's permission. The feds don't mess around if they catch you hunting on their land.
I went to school with a kid whose family owns a huge ranch with tons of arrowheads. That's the only place I collect now. The feds got rangers all over the place watching for people picking up arrowheads and such.

>>57462147
Yeah, i was overexaggerating calling it low value crap, looking at the pics it's clear those are genuine oldies, not some etsy poopoo, but i was hoping for officials' stuff, rather than simply private issued stuff.
Even if it was from a diplomat, if this isn't issued/licensed by a government's institution and simply come from a private collection, i can't justify spending too much. The seller is asking 50 bux for the pair of cufflinks + the fibula + the silver star. I could maybe haggle and try to lower it down to 40, but that still more than i'm comfortable with.

I'll send a message to the seller and ask if he knows the name of the previous owner by any chance.

>>57450074
this is the coolest thread on /biz/ and idgaf about anyone else opinion, pic convinced otherwise that predisposition

>>57449672
Metal is hard produced in the millions, and money generally not abused or thrown away rather collected. I had a nice collection of ancients and relatively nice specimens can be had for a few hundred.

>>57453769
2k is cheap anon... If you can still trade paper for metal it's still cheap metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLSnd9I1wYs&t=818s
>weakening/"dying" petrodollar
>USA willing to (try) to take out Iran, attrit Russia to deny oil to China
>USA willing to make this gamble even if it means empty shelves (for a time)
>in the wake of a "dying" petrodollar nationalize the US oil
>so it can be priced differently and taken off the world market
>US supposedly has an ample supply of oil
>can supposedly make friends with Venezuela for oil in the future
>this due to starting a war with Iran who will close the Strait of Hormuz
>current administration is willing to do anything to hold onto power/hide
>doesn't think beating Iran/Gaza Strip is possible and is just to buy time to get out
>only 20% of Hamas tunnels neutralizes since October 7th
I figure people here have much more experience assessing takes like this. If anyone has time, what do you make of all this and next steps to take?

The other reason I ask is I was thinking of starting with a quarter or half ounce of gold today after the questions I asked yesterday.

OOF! The USD just took a hit to its status as the world's reserve currency.

https://watcher.guru/news/brics-uae-pays-china-new-digital-dirham-ditches-us-dollar

BRICS members UAE and China settled a cross-border transaction on Monday using the new Digital Dirham sidelining the US dollar. This is the first-ever transaction made directly to China from the UAE using the new mode of payment with the Digital Dirham. The direct trade settlement was initiated by the UAE through the ‘M Bridge’ platform making ways for BRICS to end reliance on the US dollar through digital methods.

The UAE Central Bank initiated the Digital Dirham payment to China amounting to Dh500 million, which is equivalent to $136 million. Shaikh Mansour conducted the historic transaction directly to China showcasing the ‘M Bridge’ payment platform.

The live trade settlement was also attended by the UAE’s Central Bank officials and graduating students comprising 1,056 Emiratis. The development indicates that the UAE is ushering in a new era of digital payments.

>>57463833
>I was thinking of starting with a quarter or half ounce of gold today
Checked. That would be good, or get a 20 Franc. All excellent choices.

>>57462165
Blessed mornings

>>57463912
Not available at any of my 3 local shops but old and new Sovereigns are, along with quarter ounce gold Eagles and tenth, quarter and half ounce gold Maples. It's an unexpected amount of variety and that's all just 2023 stock.

>>57464003
>local shops
Ah gotcha. Yeah I've only bought generic silver rounds occasionally from my LCS, 100% of my gold I've purchased online.

>>57464323
Matter of trust or better deals for you online?

>>57462006
>mandarin
All Kanji in Japense are Chinese characters. I can tell that the cufflinks you showed have Chinese characters, but idk wha they say. That means they're either Chinese or Japanese and a Chinese or Japanese person could read what each character says.

>>57463833
Your future relies on the US dollar being based solely on oil. There are two things you should consider. 1) The US is currently the largest producer of oil, and 2) The US produces a helluvalot more than oil. It is mostly a weapons and war economy. And there's a lot of war going on.
Either way, a quarter ounce of gold is meaningless, other than that every journey begins with a step. Take it.

>>57464344
I trust my LCS, but they don't sell Swiss 20 Francs and I like those a lot. Similar scenario I have that you do where their selection is limited.

>>57462314
>I could maybe haggle and try to lower it down to 40, but that still more than i'm comfortable with.

Unless that starburst piece is something special I'd just pass on the group, doesn't seem like a good deal and I know you can find far better. Your Guatemalan coin bracelet remains one of the tastiest slurps ever posted here.

>>57462343
>this is the coolest thread on /biz/ and idgaf about anyone else opinion, pic convinced otherwise that predisposition

Thanks anon, it's not hard to get ancient fondlers so you should buy a few and see how they suit you.

>>57462648
>I had a nice collection of ancients

We need pics!

>>57465708
>it's not hard to get ancient fondlers so you should buy a few and see how they suit you.
Don't tempt me. I really gotta cut down on my spending.
Guess I can always hope for a fondling nugget (or maybe an ancient coin, I've found some pre WWII coin (left) and that thing on the right. I'm pretty sure it's a coin, but fuck me if I know what coin) in my panning endeavors.

Its fairly quiet in here so started a freshy

>>57466239
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>>57466254
>Its fairly quiet in here so started a freshy
How does starting a new thread help increase traffic?
Also, stupid theme - promoting a guy who sells his stack?

>>57466422
>How does starting a new thread help increase traffic?

>>57466443
>you wouldn't get it.
Because you can't explain it.

making an offer on this. i think he will accept since i told him that it is my birthday :)

https://www.ma-shops.com/duerr/item.php?id=49793

>>57466482
assuming he means that it actually isn't to help increase traffic

>>57466504
>that it actually isn't to help increase traffic
I am too literal for my own good

>>57466504
What makes that silver coin worth $3k?

When thread is slow and not even at bump limit, make multiple threads with no PMs in the OP. Simple as.

>>57466624
I think just the low mintage of it. Only 20,000 made. There's a more common anniversary variation that would be much cheaper, but I have't see a single version of that one in decent condition yet.

>>57466557
sorry :(

>>57466974
Man, for $3k you can buy ancient gold, but I guess numismatics all comes down to individual preference. I hope you get it for the offer you made!

so if i dont give a shit about all the gay shit is it better to just buy 100oz bars of silver or a bunch of american eagles

>>57467156
Whether or not you care about gay things does not matter. What matters is your goal with stacking. Assuming you plan to sell at some point, just know that you'll likely get under spot when selling 100 oz bars, whereas ASEs will get over spot. Consult various online dealers and see their buy back prices or ask your LCS. Always have an exit strategy for any investment, and the liquidity specifics of that will differ per person.

>>57467156
I think it is prudent to have smaller denominations. You will be much happier being able to sell a few ounces at a time rather than trying to unload a single 100oz bar which could become extremely high in value making it difficult to sell. If that is not an issue and you have a large sum of money to invest then getting larger bars may make sense to you. But your average pleb it's better to be divisible.