/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57402233
Rue BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>57402233
Checked

>futures

Buck broke the fuck out of her

I'm glad my money is in safe places like Chinese retailers, physical uranium, and crypto index funds.

Let the civil war roar, I say.

I just buy ETFs as part of my 401k and other retirement accounts. I have some other investments in random shit.

As a heavy ETF investor in think like S&P 500 (VOO and SPY for example) I am curious if anyone has done a study on if its a positive feedback loop where everyone invests in the same thing because they think its safe but it becomes over bought? Something with some intelligence behind the analysis not some "the end is nigh" shit on youtube.

>>57402301
The only thesis is that the amount of working people is decreasing, and therefore inflows to funds would decrease over time. That combined with boomers selling for retirement would lead to indexes falling over time. It is too soon to see how it plays out.

>I smell like shit

>>57402301
>over bought
How can it become overbought if people just keep buying and holding though? Also are you buying at these levels?

>>57402233
I once banged a negress named Rue. She was 18 when I was 30. She only dated white guys and let me call her a nigger while I hit it. Anyhoo, what’s biz opinion on NFLX for the rest of the week?

>>57402331
I dollar cost average by requirement due to its 90% retirement based. I am just saying I look at the funds across the board such as blackrock, fidelity, and vaguard, etc, etc. And the US ones all look the same so it got my attention that every 2 weeks the knuckle dragging 401k worker like me buys Apple, MSFT, NVDA, TSLA along with half the population.

>>57402331
>>57402347
I will be less wordy:

Is it a problem that all low cost ETF are almost identical and the backbone of the 401k system in this country? As
>>57402321
points out, people have to sell also when they take distributions and get older but it just seems like investments are mindless in the major funds and wondering if thats a problem or if there is money to be made on it.

What's the draw of palladium? Military uses?

>>57402365
I would argue concentration risk is a function of the number of stocks in the ETF. It should be functionally nonexistent in something like VTI because you are buying the whole market regardless.
With the way tech is eating up ETFs like VOO though it seems a bit iffy.

When they say you should have 6 months savings. Does that mean I should have like 15k just sitting in my savings account? Or is it OK to have like 15k of schd or something and call that good enough?

>>57402347
Diversification across 500ish companies is supposed to protect against the few overweight components, no? And the sick men of the index get rotated out to hospice when it becomes terminal, unless they go into remission like AMD.

>>57402379
saw this in another thread and got me curious. I hold some gold and silver already. Are palladium and platinum worth an investment as well?

>>57402347
>Apple, MSFT, NVDA, TSLA
So are you buying the individual companies or an ETF like SPY or QQQ? I'm trying to get on a DCA schedule myself but Im trying to wait a bit for my next buy to see if we pull back from these ATH levels.
>>57402347
>Is it a problem
No but its the very reason I fired my professional advisor and exited all his goofy positions for SPY. I don't understand why you would need to be any more diversified than the S&P 500 already is inherently. And i sure as shit am not trying to pay fees to someone else to "manage" it. Once my guy sold the bottom and called it tax loss harvesting I knew the extent of the grift

>>57402387
15k easily-accessible liquidity

>>57402389
I am ballparking this since I was looking at it this morning but like 35% of all the S&P500 ETFs are like 8 companies (all heavy tech). So it seemed like its both overweight tech and they are all identical funds so it seems like if there is ever a sell off it could get ugly.

>>57402301
>>57402365
The history of the US financial system since 1980 has been inflating one bubble until it bursts and then moving to another. Junk bonds, dotcom, mortgage bonds, crypto. Something is next. I’ve considered ETFs or leveraged loans as possible causes, but can’t see the path by which ETFs cause it.

>>57402301
I know,
>Business Insider
but still
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/peter-lynch-big-short-michael-burry-passive-investing-stocks-bubble-2021-12?op=1

>>57402410
>35% of all the S&P500 ETFs are like 8 companies
I've seen apple and Amazon both dump huge on bag earnings and SPY barely moved because of on the fly "rebalancing". Needless to say my puts got heemed.

>>57402404
I guy things like SPY and VOO (but its the blackrock version) very 2 weeks with paycheck. If you are just doing it on your own, you can setup regular purchases. I used to do it but DCA so often with 401k I now just save up and buy in Janurary and June now with personnal savings.

As for ATH timing, I would just buy now. If you DCA for 5-10 years starting now, you will be estatic if it goes on a pull back. With dollar cost averaging you never give a shit about buying a top because if you do, next time you buy the bottom. it all washes out.

>>57402395
Australia makes some neat platinum coins with animals on them. Probably illiquid as fuck since gold is the only pm that matters in a financial sense. Even then it's kinda iffy. Phone posting so I can't post the coins or cute funny anime girls from this ip.

>>57402233
Manufacturing PMI came in hot, like I thought. Le puts cashed, niggas lick my ass

>>57402365
Theoretically if companies get better, more efficient, more valuable, over time they grow in value. Growing enough to sustain people in retirement.

Basically, if Charles Ponzi took $1000 from new investors, grew it to $2000, then had to pay out $1000 to old investors and $1000 to new investors, would anything collapse?

>>57402379
>>57402395
Catalytic converters in cars, I believe. EVs and ICE vehicle markets have been getting heemed so PALL and SBSW charts look like a bad joke.

Then again, what do they say? Buy low and sell high?

>>57402429
I remember reading some article somewhere that was saying that the money put into the market had a 10X multiplier effect that reverses when money is taken out. Basically $10 put into the market will add $100 to the market's market cap. And vice versa when removed.

ai dashcams slow and steady wins the race

>>57402420
I read that article and now I am no longer worried. Active funds are such shit (I have both ETFs and managed funds). ETFs just reward companies that grow and have no emotion about it. Managed funds you have to worry about retard managers and their decisions and emotions. Its like a 2nd derivative of stupid. With ETFs you just have to worry about company CEOs being retards and not CEOs and fund managers both being retards.

Never mind, concern withdrew.

>>57402423
Next spy dividend is at end of month so I'm waiting till then to reinvest my divy payments. I'm sitting on cash in a money market fund that I use as day trading margin and originally I wanted that in cash just in case of a crash so i would still be able to do my day trading. But I missed out on the recovery and it heems me when I think about it. I owned shares of NVDA at like $130 per share and sold at $180 and felt like I did good. Granted during this time I developed a day trading strategy but it's small risk small reward compared to what it could be if i deployed my MM fund cash into long term investments.

>>57402274
you miss some war stocks like ITA

>>57402455
Yeah, but that's the same deal. If a Boomer invests $10 in FAGTMAN, those stocks tick up $100, then over the next decade become twice as efficient/valuable/productive, their new market cap is $200 higher and can sustain said Boomer withdrawing $20.

>>57402429
>$1000 to old investors
What happened to the old investors money in the first place? Heemed?

>>57402379
>>57402395
it's used in soldering, so it's an industrial metal. there are chemical/atomic properties that are also valuable, but you have to be a nerd to understand that, but it has applications in tech far beyond mere solder mix. all that adds up to it has real demand behind it.
the supply however is controlled by russia, and the market is "the global economy," so geopolitics plays a role.
my guess is there's a fatwa on palladium until joe biden's floating head declares mecha-putin and the chinese hivemind to be back in the good graces of the circumcising nations.

>>57402469
Keep in mind there's an utter dearth of talent going into active stock picking because passive ate the market.

But if the Apples of the world pushed indexes up the past couple decades and down the next couple decades, suddenly that dynamic reverses. And you want to steer clear of any MAGS or QQQ or SPY. Valuable microcaps or whatever will be underpriced, unscathed, and end up outperforming.

>>57402395
GLT combine them all

>>57402467
Based. My Canadian gambles are NGXXF and MEDXF. They have not disappointed.

>>57402488
Anon, do you understand where defense contractors get their money? And where they've spread themselves out?

This scenario is not bombing some camel jockeys on the other side of the world.

>>57402477
I don't know what your deal is but I went to DCA and with the free brain power that gave me afterwards I focused on my career. i.e. I recomend making your investments brainless and automatic and with free time going to gym or trying to make money. Very early on when I first started investing, I would do shit like stay up watching CNBC for how the Asian markets would react and it was such a waste of time.

>>57402505
Spent by Mister Ponzi on fast cars and faster women. Or, in the case of index funds, useless DEI hires.

>>57402516
GLTR

>>57402513
I hear you but counter with this: Talent on wall street has always gone to hedge funds, quants, and other big boy stuff. Retirement mutual fund managers will always be just 1 level above some grandma investment advisor.

>>57402509
>it's used in soldering
You're thinking of tin, which is used in lead-free solders. Palladium is catalytic converters (plus industrial catalysts and dental alloys).

https://www.statista.com/statistics/693767/palladium-global-consumption-by-industry/
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/palladium.asp

>>57402429
>get better, more efficient, more valuable
>anno domini 2024
we're doomed

>>57402559
i m a DIE soldering expert and confirms

>>57402562

>>57402441
>>57402509
Huh thanks Anons. Seems an interesting choice for a future buy depending on how things play out
>>57402477
How's daytrading working out? Enough to live on, sustainable etc? I'm tired of waging and crazy enough to try anything

>>57402566
Thanks, I know because I have personally stolen over 3% of all catalytic converters in the Bay Area.

Most of the time I just throw them in the ocean. I'm in it for the love of the game.

>>57402577
https://www.abrdn.com/en-us/us/investor/fund-details/aberdeen-standard-physical-precious-metals-basket-shares-etf/share/us0032631006 and K1 free if you re US

>>57402579
thx for decreasing supply

>>57402301
>investing in spy with a civil war approaching
Ngmi

>>57402513
>SPY
The poop and pee will just rebalance to industrials and all will be well

Chinks need to stop making money. Some races are destined only for squatting in rice paddies to self-fertilize their meager crops.

>>57402531
>free time going to gym or trying to make money
I do this although I need to get back in shape. I've let myself go since September and gained 20 lbs. Just starting lifting weights again last week. I unironically day trade short dated spy options to make my money. Yes I'm aware it's gambling. No I don't care. No I will not go back to my previous "career". I'd rather wind up shitting in the streets of San Francisco or Portland than go back to public accounting.
>CNBC
I stopped watching all that shit. It started fucking with me mentally because I'm a chud who hates Jews and that is an entirely Jewish broadcast. It's essentially demoralization propaganda when you see the goyim lackeys and female analysts talk about stocks and the narrative of the day. For what I do none of that matters. So now I just remain comfy and place my bets without the extra noise.

>futures
I just made this new apu

market crash catalysts

>escalating tensions between Biden regime and state governments
>California being inundated with a cyclical Atmospheric River super storm that occurs every 150-200 years, which will in turn cause the the Cascadia subduction zone to slip, giving us that once in 500 years megaquake
>Ukraine launching a false flag attack on the nuclear reactor Russia controls and then blaming it on them, triggering a NATO response
>Disease X
>AI-fueled Cyberpolygon

20K WINDFALL. THE MARKET IS AT AN ATH. WHAT DO I PUT IT INTO FOR SAFE GAINS. OR DO I WAIT FOR THE MARKET TO DROP AGAIN

>>57402665
>California being inundated with a cyclical Atmospheric River super storm that occurs every 150-200 years, which will in turn cause the the Cascadia subduction zone to slip, giving us that once in 500 years megaquake
Oh hey, let's go with this one.

>>57402513
any good micro/small caps to look out for? i would like to start buying them right now. everything else feels so overvalued in this market.

>>57402577
>Enough to live on, sustainable etc?
I've been heemed a lot while learning and developing my strategy but yea God willing I think this year will be pretty good for me if I can just remain consistent and not get greedy and stick to my strategy and not stray from it. I have had to learn how to lose. I've had to learn what my game is. But I just love being a part of the second by second price discovery. There's something magical about it.

>>57402674
https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/video/experts-weigh-in-on-so-called-megaflood-risk-amid-heavy-rain/
https://www.pbssocal.org/socal-focus/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-arkstorm-californias-other-big-one

>>57402677
Pick an industry, ideally one you like, and start digging.

>>57402687
Time to buy a cheeky share of CWCO, I guess.

Dump all my Tesla for Nvidia? Elon said some wacky shit on the earning call.

>>57402665
>escalating tensions between Biden regime and state governments
most likely
>California being inundated with a cyclical Atmospheric River super storm that occurs every 150-200 years, which will in turn cause the the Cascadia subduction zone to slip, giving us that once in 500 years megaquake
last year had more rain we'll be fine
>Ukraine launching a false flag attack on the nuclear reactor Russia controls and then blaming it on them, triggering a NATO response
russians were going to do that but failed
>Disease X
>AI-fueled Cyberpolygon
WEF propaganda

>>57402244
Rue just got ruined.

>>57402255
Checked

>>57402418
>Something is next.
I can assure you that subprime is contained and that everything is fine. Please stop spreading disinformation.

Is civil war bullish?

>>57402268
>NOPE

I AM THE WORLDS BEST BLACK FEMALE OPTIONS TRADER. I AM TRANS BTW.

>>57402752
does this look bullish?

It's a silly club and you aint in it.

>>57402752
there won't be a civil war
>>57402764
post penis

>>57402777
>there won't be a civil war

>>57402347
There are two crash types to worry about.
A bubble burst crash would be a single sector crashing huge because people don't want it at the high price anymore. If it is a large enough sector it will bring down other sectors because people are scared. Typically though, the money will rotate into a different sector or sectors. SPY type funds are good because they sheild you from the single sector failures by "diversifying".
A market crash is different in that liquidity aka money runs out all of a sudden. And people can't dca into their funds like usual. People can't buy dips because they don't have money. In this case, everything goes down and it doesn't matter what you have. These crashes are "why" the fed exists (on paper) because they can provide liquidity so people don't go bankrupt and everything is hunky dory.

>>57402798
There are zero types of crashes to worry about. Crashes are licenses to print money.

BTFP btfo'd
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/monetary20240124a.htm
but seriously... how hard will it spike up before the doors get shut?
also... if institutions don't try to rush in before the end it's probably a good indicator that the Fed got the next "rescue facility" lined up and ready to go.

>>57402803
>just print infinite money to pump the stock market Xd
The new interest payments figures on the national debt come out Friday.

>>57402777
No I don't want to show off my BWC (even though I'm a black female) and I don't want JANNY to ban me. This is a blue board after all.

>>57402777
Democrats want a civil war. Obama was an advisor on both of these.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDyQxtg0V2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMVBi_e8o-Y

>>57402418
It’s private equity.

>>57402688
right now i am looking at small cap etf and seeing which holdings they have to do some research. also has anyone done this stategy take the top two holdings of VTI, mid cap etf, small cap etf, and micro cap etf. that would give you 8 stocks in total the top two of each etf. wouldn't that outperform with minimal effort?

>>57402866
I'm just going to link to my advice last thread then get drunk at our ongoing constitutional crisis: >>57400656

Lynch be with you.

I've got to stop drinking a six pack each night. It's starting to impact my ability to play Splatoon at an elite level.

holy shit clftranny spotting in a random poker video
this stupid fuck has been busy losing dads money high limit online poker i guess

>short literal top of market hours
>pumps the next premarket
>go long before the top of market hours
>dumps the next premarket
Can't fucking win in this gay ass retard market.

IM BUYING SHORT DATED PUTS AT OPEN. LOTS OF THEM.

>>57402665
I've seen everyone except ina before this, I thought she didn't stream before holo so it was impossible to find old pics of her.
All the rest look like they're about to or are already on the BPD train, especially ame and gura. poor girls, swimming in easy money but still got issues, cept for Ina she's happy and grateful to be paid to be a hikikomori, which is why she my oshi.

>>57402684
Nice, it looks like the worst is already behind you so it's only up from here. Keep it up

Hey MUMU, middleweight. They say you want the /smg/ but it's held by BOBOS. It is held by BOBOS, its held by the BOBO King. GRASPED TIGHT, and all roads lead to a 7 foot 20 stone behemoth. MIDDLEWEIGHT I WILL DESTROY YOU. YOU WILL GET SMASHED TO BITS.

>>57402752
Hypothetically, if we get civil war 2.0, what happens to the stock market and what ones should I invest in asap?

Will major cities like LA, Las Vegas, Seattle, Portland and NYC suffer as a result too?

>>57402881
the market always does the opposite of what you think it won't

Is it coming?

>>57402772
qrd on that chart?

>>57402233
>(due to some personal reasons)
What, if we break it down, is not personal? lol
What could it even be? Preference? Sickness/Illness? Poor yourself? Or too rich yourself?
Most stupid way to excuse yourself for just wanting somebody who is financially secure.

I can't sleep, should I take my gains and keep gambling on earnings or open an AMD LEAP?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN90AuL2fuQ
oil bros not like this...

>>57403129
If Jim had a massive stroke on set do you think they’d stop filming to save him or just keep going as he dies?
Buy VLO

>>57403115
>(due to some personal reasons)
Single mom with multiple kids fathered by multiple baby daddies.

>>57403129
Oil 50$ incoming

>>57403164
after the USD reverse split, maybe

>>57403153
Oh yeah, you are right. That's one of those american specialties, I as an Euro, haven't thought about. It's actually fuckin crazy how prelavent this seems to be in US black community.

If I had made a child with my ex, back when I was 19, without the intention to. My parents would have backed me/us 100%. They would probably taken over the entire cost for food etc. And if needed, would have housed the child also (with that I mean dedicate a room in their apartment to it).

>>57403184
*prevalent

On capital.com there is this report. Is this like cheating? The drawdown seems to be huge. For

i was red yesterday, like very day since i started trading

>>57402772
I like how they predicted everything wrong

>>57402896
Ina is boring af and this is a bad pic of her. She reminds me of my last korean gf who had no hobbies other than working and texting me nonstop.

>>57402233
>>57402244
>>57402255
Checked. It's unequivocally over for Rue.

>>57402772
wtf is that?
>population 327 mil
>100 mil in 2025
Were they predicting a nuclear war? I mean, we still have the full 2024

>>57402324
I didn't need to see this. More disturbing than the Palestine gore the other day...

>>57403149
they'll film for ratings

>>57403232
i hope so

TSLA’s done. Elon Musk is fleeing in terror. He wasn’t smart enough.

7 green days this week and 7 green days next week. Hell, MSFT and AMD has earnings next week. Christ oh mighty give me strength not to sell.
This is actually ridiculous. It just keeps pumping every day. And now even IBM is joining in on the action. Seriously, what the hell do bears even do? I actually think bears getting shr3kt is a big part of this melt up. They are forced to buy back en masse.

>>57403221
might be boring, yes, that is the point. All the rest to some degree stress me out and/or irk me.

I figure if you're going to have a parasocial relationship, might as well be low stress. Outside of Ina biboo kaela you have to put up with so much bs, quirks, and in the case of 70% of EN right now, just being absent on an indefinite mental health vacation. Like honestly, holo is being way too lax on their talent. sure don't work them like dogs, but it's still a job, there should be at least 40 hours like the rest of us. I never got time off for me head troubles.

Doggies, what bitcoin ETF do I buy?

>>57403232
>>57403305
>>57403212
found the website on the internet archive
>https://web.archive.org/web/20170827153538/http://www.deagel.com/country/United-States-of-America_c0001.aspx
stackexchange discussion
>https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/39282/is-this-forecast-predicting-massive-global-depopulation-until-2025-legit

>>57402233
Fuck bros, I took some of my SOXL gains and paid for a hot Asian Ladyboy to dominate me. It felt great but I feel like a total degenerate now.

>>57402665
Huh, they are for the most part pretty alright (except the one in the middle). Got a pic of Fauna or Bae or Irys or Kronii?
>>57403313
What'cha think of Fauna then? Kind of a hidden stacy but still pretty chill.
>>57403326
Imagine looking into your father's eyes and telling him you allow Asian ladyboys to dom you. The funny thing is that you will do it again because that's the way you are wired

Why in hell is EU opening lower? Fuckin baby hands

Yields...

>>57403343
Fuck yeah I'm doing it again. It's like taking percs, one perc is never enough. Anyway I like my dad but he gives even less a shit about morality than I do. He doesn't give a shit what I do as long as I'm making money but yeah I love my dad. I'm sorry about your dysfunctional relationship with your dad.

oh look i lost money again
PIECE OF SHIT MARKET

>>57403343
>Why in hell is EU opening lower? Fuckin baby hands

Shut up, look at them. They can't do shit, lmao.
DAX is stuck. AEX pumps and FTSE also a little though still flat.

are there any stocks in particular that are expected to gain value if trump wins?

>>57403313
Personally I enjoy Mari Mari EN

>>57403409
>>57403343
And if you look at the AEX and ASML. You can see it's almost all ASML pumping AEX.

>>57402752
>>57402828
Actually touch grass.

I sold oil two days ago and it keeps pumping FUCK

Would Mumu fucking shits so kind as to remove themselves from my path?

>>57403480
And you were all smug about it, posting a picture of Putin. My condolences.

>>57403394
I actually have a quite normal relationship with my dad. We sometimes work in the forest together, cutting down huge trees, hauling them away, then fix some cars and whatnot. Although I'm a bit tempted to do as you (PostDoc researcher so I am curious about everything despite the degeneracy), I cannot cross the line. I'd feel too guilty for letting my parents down.

>>57403426
biden is literally going to deploy troops but sure touching grass will help.
>>57402828
>both movies were made within months of each other
what the fuck i'm starting to believe the predictive programming shit.

>>57403513
I have become very close with my father in the last couple of years. He is in his 60's now and my sister and brother are both shit bags that never visit my parents. Every time I go to visit he is so happy to see me and watching a football game and having a beer with him seems like it means the world to him. Every time I leave he always has such a sad demeanor and says "oh you're leaving?". It kind of breaks my heart to hear him say that because I know me visiting is usually the highlight of his week. I wish my other siblings would visit my parents more often. They won't be around forever and they will miss them when they are gone. This is a reminder to enjoy the company of your parents while you can.

>>57403536
finally, a wholesome rocker post
minus the niggerball part but baby steps i guess

>>57403536
Well spoken.

>>57403544
>>57403551
When my parents pass, you will become my children and I will be become your father. Many broken people here, and I will look after you all.

>>57403501
must have been some other anon

I got spooked by several anons here talking about intra-OPEC price war
I will blame my bad trading decisions on /smg/ and furthemore cope with the fact I made some profit
I still seethe tho

>>57403536
That's the worst part of getting older, isn't it? Seeing your parents wither away as time passes. Before you realize it, they are 60... then 70.... then 80. I am still used to my father lifting heavy stuff but that won't last forever. Haha, yeah bro it's natural bro. Doesn't preclude it from sucking

>>57403576
>20 to -2$
Faggot already had it. How the fuck do you do this?

If you have 20 million you can easily gamble with even with "only" 1 million daily and earn DAILY enough to live off of that. Especially if you trade leveraged.

>>57403578
Yeah my elders always said when I was younger that life was short. I didn't truly understand what they meant until I got older. Once you get a career and responsibilities, that's pretty much it for the rest of your life.

>>57403576
>must have been some other anon
ok
>>57403602
>Faggot already had it. How the fuck do you do this?
Confusing a bull market with brains, a very dangerous thing.

>>57403602
Could have just put it in some high-divvie insanely stable REIT and lived off the divvies. Or broad market index funds for ez 30%/y yields. Just what the hell goes through the mind of these people? Greed I suppose
>>57403613
I'm 29 and this is horrible. Still no kids so I am still free to live my rather nomadic life but bloody hell is it moving quickly. It almost feels like the past 10 years of my life didn't exist. Must be nice to be oblivious to the tide of time

>>57403513
Anon I do those too with my dad. Have you ever stopped and just thought about being your own person? I think people these days seriously over idealize and romanticize relationships in general. Would you want your dad to know every degenerate thought you ever had? Hopefully no of course not and it would go without saying you wouldn't want to know every degenerate thought your father has ever had ever in his life. Same goes for your significant other. Women don't want to know ever fear, doubt, or adulteress/degenerate ideas you have. It would be damaging to your relationship with your girlfriend/wife. Healthy relationships have healthy boundaries for a reason. I'm just enjoying being single and having this one life to live. I don't care what people think I do in the bedroom because I don't share that shit with them and I'm not curious about anybody else's bedroom life either. Pedophiles deserve the rope though.

>>57403536
>>57403578
>>57403613
Yeah death is the great equalizer and humbles us by coming for us all. I have an easy time forgiving my relatives for shit because life is such a strange precious fleeting experience. There is peace in all this bitter sweetness.

>chink real estates starts to crack
So the bubble of all bubbles finna pop?

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-dec-new-home-prices-fall-fastest-pace-since-feb-2015-2024-01-17/

>>57403620
>im 29
my bastard, you still have about 6 years before you hit the wall. Don't waste them.
>>57403640
I genuinely believe there is something after death. There is no goddamn way we all live such an extravagant and intense life and then it ends up all being forgotten and we just cease to have any form of consciousness.

>>57403642
>chink real estates starts to crack
It already cracked.

>>57403628
>Have you ever stopped and just thought about being your own person
Yeah but I've come to the conclusion that I am incapable of being my own person. Now, no more talk about that or jannie will have my head.
>>57403642
Hasn't that been swept under the rug for the foreseeable future? The Chinese government stepped in and provided some measures. That negative natality though... that will fugg up their real estate in the future.
China is just ridiculous. It's honestly surprising they are still functioning this well
>>57403653
My father's is 60 now and he runs two businesses and is still strong from a lifetime of hard work. I refuse to hit the wall and I will keep up with him

>>57403653
Maybe but even if reincarnation or something like that we're a thing wouldn't it be hellish at the same time to keep living lives you wouldn't remember just to experience pain, fear, loss, hunger, and death over and over again? I hope all that happens is that our psyche still exists but we go from a state of existence where we embody a form in time to a state of non existence in something outside of time as we know it.

>The Federal Reserve raises rate on emergency loan program to stop arbitrage, per Bloomberg

UUUUUUHHHHHHH BROS?!

I’ve purchased LLAP

>>57403620
With 32-33 you'll see. With 29 I felt Ok/young. That's when something like a realization-depression can kick in. But then you'll also realize that it doesn't make sense to waste time thinking about it and being depressed about it, since that can't solve the issue.

any ausFAILians in here? if so shill us your best ASX penny stonks lads

what does today have in store for STMicroelectronics (STM)?
EPS down but by less than the consensus estimate

I'm 29 and I've wishers I was dead for like 10 years hopefully I get the courage to pull the trigger soon.
Anyway premarket hype let's go bulltards

>>57403685
It's actually fine since I've already had an existential crisis back when I was 16-20. Made me an insufferable cunt back then. Luckily I grew out of it and have been doing well since. Fighting time though... yeah that is just a losing battle

Any STEELbros here? Seems undervalued to me. The stocks have a great balance sheet, good divvies, good growth possibilities. Assuming we don't delve into a deep recession (which I highly doubt), all the massive infrastructure funding should provide a solid boost to steel. What do you think bros?
>>57403721
Why bro?

>>57403721
lol jewish hands typed this post

>>57403727
I've disassociated completely from the concept of thriving or happiness and long accepted my fate there is no point interrogating me or giving me advice I was simply sharing a feeling.
also lol at tesla down almost 10% in premarket
>>57403739
but god i hate the jewish trick hours where they adjust prices as they please and arbitrarily do shit like artificially adjust a price down when divvies are paid out even though it doesn't reflect any real trading. If the markets were open 24/7 jews would be on fucking suicide watch.

>>57403343
fauna is fr fr a hidden psycho, same league as mooms, but functional unlike mooms, which is way scarier. also her taste in games is boresville.
>>57403394
she seems chill

>>57403770
lifes a cunt and then you die. deal with it. you want to vent like a little bitch faggot take that shit to r9k or a shrink. nigger bitch

Oil broken out.
Oil broken out.
It's over.

>>57403796
ill vent wherever i want nigger my masculinity isn't threatened on an anonymous basket weaving forum

>>57403418
seems chill, have you heard of Tobs? she's sorta the same vibe.

>>57403394
>>57403418
messed up and misclicked

I listen to this song once a day. I included it in poem anons funeral because it means so much to me. Keeps me grounded.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=gUSF9UUsEZw&feature=share

>>57403770
>disassociated completely from the concept of thriving or happiness
Everyone's happiness is their own so I can't and won't tell you what to do. My ego ain't that big. But I enjoy my workouts, some games like Gothic I/II, and I like reading bibliographies like James Herriot books (damn those are good). I also like my job even though I dislike talking to normos. And sometimes in life you chance upon a nice woman. Sorry mate but there is plenty to be happy about in life.
>>57403779
>fauna is fr fr a hidden psycho
That's the best part

>study two weeks for a final exam
>its the commie motherfucker handling out the papers
>none of the authors i read about
>not even clear instructions that I should have read on those

How do i get these motherfuckers fired?

>>57403826
not even clicking your link because I just know it's rage bait anyway

>company exceeds earnings estimates by 20%
>they give a realistic guidance where they don't say they are going to grow by 50% this year
>institutional investors dump it by 1.5% premarket

Why are they like this?

>>57403680
Finance bros, what dis mean? How significant is this? Should I pull out money out of the bank while I can?

>>57402410
Buy spy and short Tesla to a degree you're comfortable with. You should beat the index

>>57403847
I'm saying this now out of spite. Just for the sake of mocking as this board is all about that, so don't take it personal. It can be used against both sides, thus Mumu as well as Bobo, and it pretty much means nothing.

Priced in.

>>57403853
pull them out and slurp the tesla dip on monday

>12k jobs slashed by Google
bullish

https://blog.google/inside-google/message-ceo/january-update/

>European Central Bank asks some lenders to monitor social media for early signs of bank runs — Reuters

...what the fuck

>>57403867
>bank runs
The most antisemitic act anyone can do today is to pull out their money from the banks.
I know I have. What about you?

>>57403680
>>57403867
seems the elites are exiting stage left and the chaos will begin shortly.

>>57403874
As soon as I get money in my bank account I pull it all out.

>>57403874
I have some money in € but I can get better interest if I switch to $, I'm wondering if I should. The current us inflation is still higher than the eu, but the rates are high as well, so they are doing something about it, and if the fed doesn't cut the rates 3 times but one time it sounds like good news for the dollar

Absolute noob, retard and generally inept anon here

Yesterday I bougth 500€ in Pfizer stock
Thoughts?

>>57403853
idk I'm expecting crab until the election is over.

>>57403894
Vaxxmaxxed

>>57403866
Software companies like Netflix, Google, META and so on have so much room left in this department. They can remove so many useless jobs and effectivize the company. Personal costs have gotten ridiculously high so by getting rid of jobs, you can substantially increase the net result. This is highly bullish indeed.
>>57403894
Biomed stocks have been underperforming for a long time. The only good one is Eli Lilly. Should have bought tech mate.

>>57403894
>Yesterday I bougth 500€ in Pfizer stock
>Thoughts?
Shit company, It's going lower.

>>57403904
They can keep conning people into getting mistery juice in their veins for all I care, but the stock seemed pretty undervalued to me, what do you think?

>>57403906
>Should have bought tech mate.
You know for some reasong I get the vibe that maritime transport is gonna be a big thing in the upcoming months if some were to happen.

Is Shit&Piss going to stop dumping at open and then crabbing every fuckong day at some point? How am I supposed to scalp like this?

>>57403894
you better start licking bats in china if you want your stock to rise.

>>57403894
>Yesterday I bougth 500€ in Pfizer stock
why?

>>57403919
Seemed undervalued to me, no other reasoning desu lmao

>>57403894
Set a sell order so that it will sell as soon as you get 1% of profit on your position and then set a buy order for WTI Oil at $70 and just wait.

China is in the midst of its first Great Depression, and now the EU is worried about bank runs.

The contagion of China's pending economic collapse is beginning to spread me thinks kek.

>>57403912
I have no clue, sorry.

I'm also not vaxxed, which makes me biased.

Someone please convince me that Joe Biden isn't actively trying to collapse the United States right now. Please.

>>57403930
Welcome to the Great Civil World War Depression 3 (2).

>>57403943
Whatever Biden does = bad
Whatever Trump does = good
it's that simple, take the incel pill

>>57403949
>letting in 8 million illegal aliens le good
>blocking every form of energy exploration le good
Fuck off retard

>>57403949
>Nooooooo you can't just enforce our laws, that's illegal!!!!!
Literally failed state tier.

>>57403949
The same people calling someone an incel are also male feminists, which at the end of the day are synonymous. Joe Biden is a fuck all terrible president, literally everything he has done is at the detriment of everyday American citizens.

>>57403953
>>57403960
I was being serious. I am not sexually active as I am so ugly that you'd be hard pressed to find someone on here uglier than me, which I presume is quite a challenge given the anti-social nature of the people who frequent this place.

>>57403912
>I get the vibe that maritime transport is gonna be a big thing
Might be but it matters not. Buy tech for better gains. No other sector provides as much safe gainz as tech. Tech is always in fashion and provides greater growth than all other sectors combined.
Broadcom (actually insane), NVDA, AMD, MSFT, IBM, there is so much to choose from. You could have bought these at any point in history and still made a hefty return.

>>57402274
What are some good crypto index funds?

>>57403975
Bro just be yourself, that always works for me with women

>>57403949
>Whatever Trump does = good
Tariffs aren't good chud.

>>57403989
I am a sick man. I am a spiteful man. I am an unattractive man. I believe my liver is diseased.

>>57404006
Successful men learn to their weaknesses into strengths. Charlie Sheen literally fits your description and he has a wife and kids.

>>57403975
>>57404006
I'm trans btw, if that matters.

>>57404010
>Successful men learn to turn their weaknesses into strengths
Fixed

>>57404010
I hated my face, for example, found it odious, and even suspected that there was some mean expression in it, and therefore every time I came to work I made a painful effort to carry myself as independently as possible, and to express as much nobility as possible with my face. "let it not be a beautiful face," I thought, "but, to make up for that, let it be a noble, an expressive, and, above all, an extremely intelligent one." Yet I knew, with certainty and suffering, that i would never be able to express all those perfections with the face I had. The most terrible thing was that I found it positively stupid. And I would have been quite satisfied with intelligence. Let's even say I would even have agreed to a mean expression, provided only that at the same time my face be found terribly intelligent

>>57404014
>if that matters
Nah you're fine. Bros, should we tell him/her... it?

>>57403232
It's the vaxx, retard.

>>57404030
ok mr darcy, put down your quill and find yoself a slag

>>57403642
The real crack will be on Monday, after the judge decides (or not) to liquidate Evergrande. Then we'll speak again

Do you guys think Biden will peacefully relinquish power after he loses the election?

>>57404133
He doesn't even know he's in power. I'm sure his jew handlers will find a comfortable retirement home for him.

>$TSLA | Tesla Makes It Harder For Investors To Ignore Its Problems - WSJ

These headlines...
>Stop making your problems so obvious, I just want to throw my money at you, not think about anything and hope for it to 3x in 2 weeks.

>>57404142
Elon said Tesla will be the largest company in the world

I bought yinn so China will be going to zero

>>57404142
>left is mad at him
>cheap oil (for now)
>expensive & unreliable
>cyberjoke
Its amazing what he brought the company to but it has already devoured the ev market and trying to create an ev truck market was never really going to work. Expansion outside of auto has always been their best bet.

also wtf is up with cramer?

Why are etoro users so fucking gay? Whenever i browse trough the app i die of cringe with their discussions.

>>57404198
cramer bearish on AI?

I am buying the TSLA dip
not slurping hard though
just a lil sippy sip

>>57403817
Tobs? I’ll check them out see they from Holo or niji I don’t really know their members

>>57404284
Tesla has everything to keep on slurping till the end of the year

>>57404277
He's been standoffish from the entire market for a bit but he is right in pointing out ai is just a buzzword.

why is tesla so low in premarket?

are there going to be any buying opportunities at all this year? I was heavily banking on the market dipping at least a little bit in january but so far 2024 continues exactly how 2023 ended, nothing but green. I'm priced out.

I am sorry but how is this legal? How can they put up preventive measures against Chinese e-cars? So they say that they are too good and will out-compete European and US e-cars. They are cheaper and better. Shouldn't EU and US companies get their shit together instead?
This is anti-capitalist as hell. Instead of improving, let's levy a bunch of taxes and fees. This is actually pathetic. Healthy competition is what is needed. And I say this as someone who dislikes China.

>>57404274
I would still use it if there was an EUR account option. I like that you can trade several markets with individual leverage

>>57404327
macro says were in a meltup but heading for a bust towards the end of the year and into 25.

>>57404336
what do I do until the end of the year though? I don't want to sit on cash and watch the market melt up for the next 10 months just for a possibility of a correction that might not even be substantial. Should I just bite the bullet and DCA in right now at ATH or is there still some bear case for a possible dip in the first quarter?

>>57404334
...we've done that forever but its our country our rules, we can do whatever we want.

>>57404334
You are just noticing this now with shitty Chinese electric cars?

ADIDAS JUMPS 4%! THEY PROBABLY SAID AI (SHOES)

>>57404356
Up to you, i've been riding the pump but cashing out as I feel. There should be some dips and opportunities, we're about to rally or get rekd next week for example. INTC earnings is today so semi's/tech will be somewhat effected.

>>57404356
lump sum in and set a stop loss sell order appropriate to what you're willing to risk losing.

>>57404371
I want AI shoes

>>57404030
I think if you took yourself a little less seriously you could fix a lot of your personal problems

>>57404371
>>57404401
>AI shoes
Wtf does that even mean? What would shoes with AI even do?

>>57402566
I used to buy my girlfriend button down shirts so I could rip them open when I'd fuck her.
Anyone holding SAVE? Spirit hit a 52-week low and I was thinking about buying a little stack.

how do you (personally) research a stock? mostly reading 10Q/Ks? what else do you do?

>>57404417
they will blink red and say nigger if they detect one in an area within 10 meters

Humana bros not like this

I'm already tired just thinking about the retarded questions they'll later ask Lagarde.
>When will you cut?
>What data or which metric are determining your decision?
>

>>57404417
Remind you to not look down all the time while walking. Analyze your walking pattern, if you have some deficiences. Uneven hip etc.

>>57402566
>>57404425
Nevermind. Looks like the reddit and stocktwits people are fighting over the scraps.

Bros... do I dump my tesla shares now or hope for a rebound recovery?

>>57404370
Nah I'm over-exaggerating of course. It's just a little bit funny that these huge and well-respected companies in Europe and US are getting so frightened by pathetic chinks. It's beyond pathetic. Cars are too expensive here and I hope more competition from China will bring them down.
>>57404372
Oh crap I do business with some of those companies

>>57404371
>>57404401
>>57404417
My AI waifu needs AI shoes

>>57404438
not really that impressive. my king charles spanial has that detection feature.

>>57404454
I feel like the automotive industry has reached some pretty big headwinds lately. Tesla has done better than other automakers, but, EVs are starting to stack up at dealership lots and I do wonder if eventually they'll get cheap enough where people go "ya know, I'll buy this mercedes instead of the tesla"

>>57404438
I'd be a customer for life

>>57404460
that's a good boy

>>57404457
It's not that they are frightened but are just lazy. They don't need to shake things up to make money.

TSLA: 660 trillion marketcap
Volkswagen: 60 trillion marketcap

how come?
VW is bigger even in their EV department.

however, I am all in Volkswagen

>>57404470
Valid point.
>>57404472
Good grief. Haven't we discussed this multiple times before?
>I am all in Volkswagen
pic related

>>57404480
dont laugh at my investment pls :(

I am stuck between literally buying the top and shorting the bottom and it fucking sucks.

>>57404484
Can I at least be smug about it?

>>57404501
lets see who will be smug when i collect my 6% dividend in july :(

Do not panic dump Tesla (ticker:TSLA) anons. You would be selling at bottom.

>>57404472
Volkswagen doesn't have charismatic cult leader in charge. You gotta hand it to Elon Musk that he knows how to wield his celebrity.

>>57404504
That's pretty alright but I prefer holding EU big banks like Swedbank which give me 20% + 10% divvies. Banks in a "high" rate environment and nomies flush with cash is a dream come true. Bloody hell they are raking in so much money it's crazy

>>57404516
>Volkswagen doesn't have charismatic cult leader in charge.

>>57404509
I will remember you at 170 dollars tonight.

>>57404524
yes but interest rates arent going any higher i suppose?

>>57404526
Kek

>>57404529
Tesla falling that low in one day would be a blessing. 170 I fucking ram it in

>>57402469
ETF's can be actively managed.

>>57404530
People are borrowing more, banks making more effective decisions or firing people, investments going up... this is an ideal environment for banks. Unrealized losses? They can simply hold them until the central banks once again institute zero rate policies or close to it.
Check out how the losses sustained by EU banks. It's essentially zero compared to their net profits.

>>57404290
I think tobs is indie. I started following her when she was 200 average viewers, in about a year she grew to 1000 avg.

wish there were a way to invest in vtubers before they pop off, so far my record would be 3 for 3. I predicted tobs rise, then two other small but consistent lasses I followed got acquired by niji. shame tho, after acquisition they aren't the same. but tobs is still the same, just more collabs with other indie vtubers.

maybe I could crowdfund money and start my own vtuber company.

>>57404556
i check it out thanks

>Cubot Note 21 for 89€
>Cubot C30 for 99 €
Just 1 or 2 days ago they both were 10 euros more expensive. Chinese are selling off.

>>57402665
>>57402896
>>57403221
names pls? which one is which

>be chinese
>deflate the economy
>anglo-euro kikes screech
>immediately sell their ev cars for half the price and take market share
>people can live off 2.50 usd/year
>>angloeuro kikes btfo

>$AAL | American Airlines Q4 23 Earnings:
- Adj EPS: $0.29 (exp $0.12)
- Revenue: $12.01B (exp $11.94B)
- Sees 2024 Adj EPS $2.35 to $3.25 (exp $2.22)

How does this happen? Earnings slightly higher, EPS more than double. Is this why planes are falling apart?

>>57404579
from left to right, kiara, cali, ame, ina, gura

the og hololive EN

>>57404599
Airlines are notorious for financial fuckery, doing any kind of FA on them is a waste of time, they are basically banks

>>57403417
>>57397302

>>57403894
>>57403923
Since they're a biotech, you should look up their pipeline.

For Pfizer this is easy because they don't have one.

>>57404560
Starting up a /smg/ Vtuber company sounds based too

>>57403930
Obsolete information as of about two days ago.

>>57404526
underrated

>>57403913
Just buy crab ETFs that sell 0dte calls and puts then go home: https://twitter.com/EricBalchunas/status/1750248843424461111

>>57403986
There's pretty much only one right now https://bitwiseinvestments.com/crypto-funds/bitw

>>57404327
You want a dip or two to buy? In defensive sectors? ADM and >>57404448

>>57404562
In Europe you can reliably invest into three segments. Banks, big industry (e.g., Volvo), and steel industries (e.g., Rheinmetall or SSAB). These are typically bulletproof.
You'd still get far better gains just by buying any big US tech though... which is why we are europoors and not eurorichs

>>57404667
Can I not get it through robbingyouhood app?

>>57404434
>>57400656

How strong are Visa & Mastercard's moats, really? Is regulation really a bigger threat to their business than tech-stock-tier disruption by some nascent revolutionary fintech company? Sorry if the questions are dumb.

>>57404472
Tesla, for all its flaws, can enjoy 24/7 electricity to run its factories. Can we say the same of VW? How about in the next year or two?

>>57404689
Probably not, because it trades OTC. There's a reason people say to get a real broker.

>>57404705
the power here didnt even went off once in my entire life wtf

I don't buy plane or car stocks, just because. Fuck you.

>>57404684
>(e.g., Volvo)
jokes on you

what about rising german chip manufacturer like infineon?

>>57404715
Yeah, I don't see it on robinhood. They do have BITQ and BITB: Citwise Crypto Industry Innovators, and Bitwise Bitcoin respectively. I'm not sure of the details of those though.

>>57404736
>infineon
Don't really know much about it but ASML is great. One of EUs best stocks. Up there with Novo.
I know there was this one dude here that was recommending German mid-cap contractors that provide precision equipment and semiconductor stuff for big caps. Those tend to outperform the indices.

I just hate how the fuckin market is moving, that is all.

>>57404816
why?

>>57402509
>my guess is there's a fatwa on palladium until joe biden's floating head declares mecha-putin and the chinese hivemind to be back in the good graces of the circumcising nations.
Or maybe, just maybe, it was a P&D run orchestrated by greedy traders on a quasi-useless metal with a zero depth market, and now prices are going back to the mean?
There was zero fundamentals justifying a spike over $3K, and it only lasted for a session. It obviously was traders shenanigans.

The chart sure looks like something who is finally going back to normal levels.
I wouldn't expect any leg up anytime soon, either crabbing or slow creep up.

>>57404821
DAX just now.
Look at how it is fuckin sliding. I hate that. Just dump already or fuckin stop or pump. But this fuckin slide on the 4 hourly is so fuckin disgusting.

>>57404816
Why? Line go up forever like it always was? Its all we ever wanted around here kiddo.

So what do you guys think of 2x leveraged ETFs? Obviously we laugh at stuff like TQQQ or SOXL when it comes to long term holds since the 3x leverage causes so much decay in crab markets...

I've been doing a lot of research and it seems like 2x leveraged etfs like SSO or USD are the sweet spots if we are talking about longterm DCA over the course of like a decade or two. There is also leverage related decay but it's a lot less and statistically speaking they should outperform unleveraged or triple leveraged etfs in most scenarios.

Why aren't these recommended more often? 2x leverage seems to be unpopular for both boomers and for us younger generations when looking at forums like /biz/

So is ECB decision going to do anything to Stinky Poo 500?

>>57404863
lol
verification not required.

ON NO NEWS

just farted out of my own entire ass

>>57402895
I was too early. hopefully we get down to 465, a 20 point jump was not what I was expecting.

>>57404599
what do you mean earnings slightly higher? they're more than double.

>>57404727
I'm exaggerating and extrapolating. It's a joke, Hans. Like Germany's energy policy.

https://cen.acs.org/business/finance/BASF-cutting-back-main-site/101/web/2023/02

>>57404856
You hit the nail on the head: it's boring. Anons will either fixate on maximizing degeneracy (see: XXXX) or predict we are about to enter Nikkei Crab 2.0. 3x or 0.5x, no in between.

>>57404843
agree, lately I'll get good days on my stocks, but crypto dumps, or vice versa. Never had both pump since december.

make up your mind bro.

>>57403620
speculation is a helluva drug.
after all why not? why shouldn't I let it ride?
I just won, I can win again.

>>57395838
called it

https://twitter.com/ZacAustinCooper/status/1750505910177259625/photo/1
ought to be shooped to a little pepe in a beanie hat

TESLA IS THE CORONARY IN THE COPEMINE
GET READY FOR DUMPING, NVIDANUS
KAW-KAW...KKKKK-KAW

I can feel the double fuck coming. If I sell my tesla stocks and put them into NVidia at this level.

>>57404913
buy high sell low

>>57403536
>They won't be around forever and they will miss them when they are gone. This is a reminder to enjoy the company of your parents while you can.
This is why in my extreme emotional generosity toward my parents, i decided to live in mom's basement for the rest of their lives and never leave home.
I'm what you'd call a good samaritain of sort.

>>57404919
kek.
I have a evil stepmom that kicked me out of the house as soon as i turned 18.
I wasnt able to join university and had to work since always, despite my father being a fucking stupid millionair.
but this dumb fuck let s my stepmom take advantage over him.

Do you want to know my feelings about my parents?

>>57404930
she just wanted to have sex. get over it.

>>57404913
then just sell tesla but don't put it into novideo?

>>57404932
its not like we lived in a 2 room flat ffs

>>57404930
it's sad that you don't have a good relationship with your parents. my parents never gave up on me despite being a shitty teen/college kid. i will soon bless them with a grandkid. thank you papa and mama.

>>57404938
but i want to be rich

>>57404930
>Do you want to know my feelings about my parents?
Sure, please do, fren. I'm all ears.

>>57404907
oh, follow-up
good morning, cybertrucks are worthless if you don't spend an hour washing them immediately after every use during winter https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-cybertruck-manual-road-salt-corrosion-steel-2024-1

>>57404943
well now you know your stepmom is a screamer. stop asking questions you don't want to know the answer to. and stop coping b/c you're on the optimal path.

if school is what you really want to do, there's tons of jobs that will pay for school. several government programs too.
You're on the optimal path and you don't even know it.

>>57405010
>>57405010
>>57405010
new
>>57405010
>>57405010
>>57405010
new

>>57404908
true and factual, see you on the next one

>>57404891
Alright. I'm convinced. Starting a small weekly investment into SSO and decreasing my VOO weekly. As long as I keep up the DCA over longterm it is statistically speaking a smart decision.

>>57404698
Visa and Mastercard cutting service to Russia with no warning permanently put me off of them. Imagine if you happened to be on vacation there that day. What then? If they can do that with Russia then they can do it with any other country. People will remember that and bail out to something else as soon as a good alternative comes around.