/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57390706
marrying is often never a good financial decision

>>57390706
that bitch doesn't work there

>>57390706
Damn, that girl was struck by the boobie snatcher

boop

boop

boop

>>57390724
Flat girls are the best

>>57390706
Great way to become confirmed beta bucks and divorced raped.
What's with /biz/ and fetishism of the captured institution of marriage?

>>57390706
No. Enormous rookie mistake. If you're successful, you can't even begin to full appreciate how different you are from people like that or how much harm you are doing even exposing them to your lifestyle and how much harm they'll end up trying to or successfully doing to you in their confusion, resentment, and fear. You think it's romantic to do rescue the little pretty girl from her day to day retail job and the two of you will ride off into the sunset and live happily ever after. You think "well, we're different, but look at how well we get along, I'm like prince charming and she's like my Cinderella, this must mean it's real!" Wrong.

Flush that shit down the toilet like the shit it is. The reality is a girl that is lower than you will never comprehend your lifestyle or the demands of your success on you. She won't be able to understand the stresses or victories. She won't be comfortable doing the things people at your level do. Neither will her family. You will be an alien to all those people, but you'll also be like a really flashy toy they all want to play with. And you know what happens when you get a bunch of savages all wanting to play with the same toy? It doesn't end well for the toy.

Dating a girl from a lower socioeconomic class is not only a bad decision, it is practically a quintessentially bad decision. It is like saying "hey, I finally got drafted onto the Yankees, now let me take this hand gun and shoot myself in the kneecap." It's not even remotely in the spirit of what you should be doing unless you feel you're maybe too successful and you want to make things harder or you're like "gee, I sure would like to be a poor loser again, maybe I should do everything possible to increase my probability of hanging around poor losers with the majority of my free time."

>>57390732
not when theyre old

>>57390843
What? They age the best. Thin women age better than curvy women

>>57390832
Just as an example. End of life care is really expensive and demanding unless an elderly person dies like instantaneously. Funeral costs and all that shit is expensive. Settling an estate is expensive and arduous. You date a girl from a lower socioeconomic class, her dad has a stroke, he can't walk, he shits his pants, the mom is elderly and can't take care of him, oh if only someone had the money to hire an aid or pay for a full care nursing home...oh...if...only...someone...had the money...Here are your moves there. You either come to the fucking rescue like JP Morgan or you don't and your girlfriend and all of the other people in her family will speak of you and come to view you as Count Dracula the elite inscrutable demon sitting in his castle causing all of their woes.

If you come to the rescue, the guy is still probably going to die and when he does, trust me, those assholes won't have life insurance and they'll have zero plans in place to handle anything. You being the great fixed point of competence, the lender of last resort, will have ALL of their issues thrown at your feet and your reward for settling them will be jack fucking shit. You'll enable a bunch of perpetual dumb asses to go on being dumb asses on your dime. And that's if you handle everything masterfully and don't simply hang yourself in the face of all the bullshit or run screaming into the night to get away. And that is ONE example. Do not involve yourself in the complete failure businesses (and families are like businesses in many ways) of others. You're getting lured in by the pussy.

>>57390732
They are actually the best not sure what's up with that but it's really fuckin erotic and they have skinny tight bodies and love to fuck

>>57390832
a gay man wrote this.

the real answer is you're looking for the best genetics, which corresponds to beauty and intelligence. not every hot smart girl is gonna have a rich family. if you're just selecting a mate based on status, you'll end up with a pajeeta or kikess.

>>57390909
Just let the old fart go into a nursing home and they take his SSI in exchange after they take whatever is in his account...it ain't rocket science

>>57390706
I married a low income girl and she became my wife after i made it, i put all the money, make all the good financial decisions and she does house work. Good tradwife, just like i like it.
She's really smart so i sometimes chat with her about my financial decisions and even opened her a metamask with some thousands so she could gamble herself. She bought a lot of party hats ($phats) way back when it was lower in price and actually tripled her gains, she's a good woman

>>57390972
Nah you can go fuck yourself. Go fuck a waitress you dumb fuck and see how it works out with your "oh it's only about the genetics." Newsflash dipshit, the attorney dad and the engineer mom with the daughter at Penn probably have pretty good genetics. So take these pearls and shove them up your swine ass and hopefully they'll give you anal cancer and rid of us all of you.
>>57390973
Not in the U.S. and not for someone who requires complete care. Go ahead and look into it. You will be shocked how quickly shit starts coming out of pocket.

>>57391023
Yes in the U.S. retard. This happened to two of my grandparents, including with currently with dementia. You're a fucking idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>57390995
can you niggers please fuck off

>Be attention whore
>Get attention
It really was that simple all along wasn't it

>>57390832
>>57390909
You expect us to read your bullshit novel about how man made "careers" mean anything in nature?

>>57391023
Yes in the U.S. retard. This happened to two of my grandparents, including one currently with dementia. It's fully covered by Medicaid. You're a fucking idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>57391030
You are objectively full of shit. I think that dementia runs in your family and you're starting to show signs. Do me a favor and print this out:
https://health.usnews.com/best-nursing-homes/articles/how-to-pay-for-nursing-home-costs
Read it repeatedly and then go tell your mom and dad who unquestionably took care of the brunt of that shit with your grandparents while you played WOW to slap you in your stupid fuck face. You are CLUELESS and the shit you're spreading is going to blindside a lot of people if they believe your horseshit. You can't just go to a fucking $5k/month nursing home and go "lol trollface...just gonna give you my $500/month social security instead lol."

>>57390706
warren buffet's side chick was a waitress

>>57390832
Tldr fag

>>57391062
Kek. Novel anon writes a lot, but he’s on the right side of this question. You def should not marry into a lower class. Absolute disaster. She will embarrass you and she will resent you.

There is a reason low class people are low class, they have personal issues, with addiction, motivation, iq etc. over time the problems will reveal themselves.

>>57391074
Uh...I managed the entire long-term care application process between my parents and the nursing home because it is a process. I coordinated the entire process with the state and I see her bill. The bill is an amount that is adjusted annually and compromises an amount that is equal to her SSI and a measly $133 pension she receives (minus ~70-something dollars for an """"allowance"""" that is mandated by the government). If she didn't have that pension? It wouldn't be included. That's all she pays the nursing home. I have the ability to monitor the bank account. I managed it YEARS before she got sent to the nursing home because her decline was gradual. My parents haven't paid a cent additional to the nursing home, in advance, at any fucking time. I have access to over a decade of her bank statements for over 5 years.

So, I know for a fucking fact that's all she pays. There is no debt accruing. Her account is current and up to date. Again, I oversaw the ENTIRE application process. I am her fucking healthcare proxy and my father is her power of attorney.

>You can't just go to a fucking $5k/month nursing home and go "lol trollface...just gonna give you my $500/month social security instead lol

If you have no other assets or form of income, that's actually totally what happens. My grandmother pays around ~$1400/month for what would privately cost/otherwise be a $6k/month facility if paid outside of Medicaid. She has dementia. She is practically bedridden. She needs someone to wipe her own ass. Do you get the picture??

So, SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU FUCKING RETARD. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING TALKING ABOUT. YOU'RE THE WORST KIND OF RETARD... CERTAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING WHEN YOU KNOW FUCKING N-O-T-H-I-N-G. ALL BECAUSE OF YOUR EGO. SO AGAIN, SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU FUCKING RETARD.

>>57390832
>>57390909
Makes sense to me.
Thanks for posting.

Also this looks like the result of a woman designing a "game room" for entertaining.
And the husband is afraid to say "no."

kek why is there a life insurance salesman longposting stimulant abuser coded babble ITT

>>57390713
/thread
>>57390740
Because biz is filled with reddit tradcuck types now, the absolute state of this board is fucking embarrassing

>>57390713
>often never
what does this mean

>>57390832
>>57390909
>>57391074
I married into a very well off family with a mid sized business. My family on the other hand has traditionally excelled in both the managerial and higher skilled professions. I do sometimes feel like I married down, but I love my wife all the same. I just hope my offspring inherit my mind.
>A60 married a D20

>>57391148
it is interesting to read the povertyfinance subreddit. people are in these circumstances and just have no imagination of ways they might earn a small amount of money. like it wouldn’t occur to them, even being dirt poor, to go trash picking.

>>57391467
What color is d10 I have that

>>57390832
>>57390909
What happened to biz? Why is this gem of a post receiving so much hate?

Fucking broccoli head mongoloig zoomer niggers go back to plebbit.

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

>>57391150

>>57391312
The one in a milly chance that you get a wife that is not a financial burden.

>>57390832
>No
i stopped reading at the first syllable. bad authority

>>57391538
>gem
No one ever talked like this here. Go back.

>>57390832
I’ve seen both sides.
Better to marry a girl with no family at all.

>>57390724
This is easily fixed. Pump a baby in her, instant booba.

>>57390832
>>57390909
Glad to know a few smart anons are still here.
FUCK OFF AND GO BACK!
WITH JEWS YOU LOSE!
WITH BLACKS NEVER RELAX!
NIGGER! NIGGER!
NIIGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

>>57391150
Based I have a close friend that went through the same thing with his mom and you're 100% right.

>>57391150
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

>>57390706

if she is smart and loyal its like buying the dip

>>57390832
You should be selecting a mate based on youth, beauty and nurturing abilities. Them being a McDonald’s or Walmart cashier wagie is only by happenstance.

Imagine letting your cute gf in her prime years still wage slave instead of getting her pregnant.

>>57391538
>>57391828
>>57391842
You unironically came from /pol/ post 2016 and picked up buzzwords from the jeets who started posting here in 2020. You're a giant retard, Anon.

>>57390732
ok pedo

If you love her and she's got good qualities, sure. Flowers grow in shit.

All I would say is frontload your issues with her extended family. Be a dick to them upfront so they don't get any ideas about favours. If there's a conflict between your interests and her families, make damn sure everyone knows where you stand. Your wife needs to be 100% on board with this. You'll also need her to unlearn a lot of poor-person mentality and bad financial habits. Probably the first of which is ever discussing your wealth with anyone but you.

>>57390732

>>57390706
If she's age 16-22 and paying for school, yes, could be a great decision. Beyond that, very poor odds.

>>57391467
>recessive little low test boy
go look at what Alexander looked like

>>57390706
Isn't that the Instagram girl Charlie detomato?

>>57392148
>If she's age 16-22 and paying for school, yes, could be a great decision. Beyond that, very poor odds.
Incorrect. You're better off marrying a non-bogged immigrant you can dump a baby into in their mid 30s while they are married to their career so you can become a house husband with your intergenerational wealth that can sustain her relatively eager earnings in a field like nursing, social work, etc. Then you can just chill at home and take care of the plants, kitchen, etc. it's a far better life.

>>57390732
The path of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

Marriage is a horrible financial decision
>>57390740
it's not biz it's poltards and redditors

>>57390832
>>57390909
I am living this now and you're 100% correct.

>>57390731
Delet kek

the only right path in 21st century is to marry a trad woman who has never used the Internet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKX7XGbUQoU

>>57390897
Fat smooths out the wrinkles. Her fat tits will pull all the skin down, making her appear youthful. Like when you pull your ballsack taut.

>>57390706
Imagine being born with a cunt so you're allowed to just pretend to work and get paid more than a wagies yearly salary

>>57392775
The first step on the long road to trannyism

>>57390724
kek

>>57391873
Sorry fatty

>>57390972
white walmart employee trash cope

>>57390972
>not every hot smart girl is gonna have a rich family.

True but most smart people do escape poverty and shit jobs. If she's working retail 10 years out of high school she's a lifer

>>57390832
Betabuxx statuscel. Are you Indian? You basically just described the Indian caste system as your dating preferences LMAO
>>57390972
This. Looks and biological determinism are king, and always have been.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijFkcLMmSJI&ab_channel=Orthotropics

Good looking people = healthy people. Wealthcels cope with poor health by stuffing as many numbers into the monitor on their screen, ignoring the problem, instead of yielding 1000x more results focusing on LOOKS instead of beta-bills.

ofc, I'd love a qt wagie gf

I dont want a woman who has another master

>>57390832
guys do you think ill get excepted as a writer xD

>>57390732
BASED

>>57390832
10/10 argumentation and style

>>57391859
Finally a real answer.

I date primarily uni student girls, career women are already too old for my taste and have many of their lives set in stone.

But young early 20s girls are like mould, her 1 year time with you is like a big % of her life considering up to 12 she basically didint even have a mind of her own.

Anyway, so i look for these criteria:
1. Beauty
2. Past (not a hoe no red flags virgin preferred)
3. Obedience/loyalty
4. Intelligence

Thats in last place, if you dont give your silly wife the ability to access most of your funds the damage she can do is very limited. Especially if you scare her/manipulate her into believing that your money is tied up in investments or something and you cant cash out.

Or simply command her to be quiet and thats that.

But there are girls who not only study in uni, but also work as cashiers/baristas/etc that doesnt mean they are stupid, in fact it means the opposite they optimise time and strive for greatness.

>>57393338
4 correlates with 2 & 3

>>57392148
>pay for some chicks school

Fuck no. You dont take that risk, and you dont provide her like that. Why would she need to go to school just tell her to stay home and cook and clean and raise kids thats work enough trust me.

>>57392198
>marry immigrant thats mid 30s

Double fucked. Not only are you getting a bitch set in her bitchy ways, that WILL controll you and act with the traits of her previous men partners (they do that)
But also she will give you poor quality babies and get saggy in 10 years. Why immigrant as well, you dont want your kids to look like you? You dont want your family to be able to talk to her?
You want her to feel like an alien in your family meetings?

Cringe fucker

>>57390832
Stop

>>57393370
Stop

>>57393350
>4 correlates with 2 and 3
Sometimes, but there are exceptions as to all things.
Intelligent girls can be manipulative and not obedient, especially if they believe their intelligence exceeds yours.
And some intelligent girls may have had a bad past because they thought something was normal or are used to just being a hoe. Also maybe use sex as a manipulation tool, which is smart but you can usually tell

>>57393388
SMD im spitting truth.

>>57393400
>>57393370
>>57393338

CHECK MY ID NIGGAS IM A MESSENGER OF KEK

>>57390724
>girl

>>57390706
No. They buy liabilities and think they're buying assets, they think gross = net, and they think they must spend more than they make because debt = good

As a male you always date down interms of money and status. Women with money are the same as men and they do not want you and they have the 'I will do anything I want and nobody can question me' attitude. Also money and career driven women are hedonistic and dont want to settle down to start a family because theyve tasted freedom through travelling

Just choose a partner based on
>beauty
>intelligence
>physical and mental health checkups(no PCOS)
>no risk taking activities like smoking, drinking
>most important of them all, if her parents are still together and she has a good relationship with dad

>>57390832
>>57390909
Makes sense. I've thought a lot about this and you just summarized it nicely. Ignore the reddit fags

>>57390706
There’s too much artificial ingredients on her face. Pass. I want me a certified organic trad wife.

>>57391861
>unironically
Go back stupid nigger

I did it and it worked out well

>>57390832
The gayest post of 2024 so far by a very wide margin. For the people who need it said out loud - a woman's social class IS her youth and beauty.
>nooo I won't fuck that skinny big tiddy emo 18 year old because WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
Go back.
>>57391538
Go the fuck back you absolute mongrel. This has NEVER been a board about fantasizing of rejecting hotties with your revenge porn divorced single father tier trash. Get the fuck out you newfag niggercattle

>>57390706
no, speaking from experience. lower prole class struggles immensely with acting civilized. i'm not even "rich," i grew up middle class blue collar in a hick area. things like
>not letting every disagreement degenerate into a 65 IQ yelling match
>understanding the importance of administrative aspects of life (budgeting, time management, etc.)
>having productive hobbies, anything more involved than talmudvision/social media
>taking care of personal belongings and one's body
>understanding the appropriateness of conversational topics for casual acquaintances
are very difficult for this class of people, if not outright impossible

>>57390706
Why do women even work these worthless jobs when they could just find some guy?

>>57390706
Depends, although >>57390832 is not wrong it is not completely right either. If you marry someone of the same status, since they have certain standards, the guy usually won't meet the woman expectations and you end up divorcing and losing half of your shit. But if you marry a lower class girl, since she doesn't know shit you can build her to your expectations. Now if you are a woman it is always better to marry on the same class or above because you can just take half of the guys shit.

>>57394260
low IQ uneducated women in retail aren't stay at home gf/wife material. only mentally retarded /pol/ losers think otherwise. i've met partners and VPs who have stay at home wives. their wives are educated, had a successful career before doing SAH, and once the kids are in school they find something productive to take up their time.

>>57390706
I love my wife but my life would be better if I never got married.

>>57390706
My dad did and look how I turned out

>>57392152
>go look at what Alexander looked like
WE WUZ ALEXANDER THE GREAT N SHIEEEEEET

>>57394317
>women getting ran through and tossed around in uni like used rags are wife material bro
>trust me bro all the rich people are taking uni grad girls as wives
Idk if this is the win you think it is. Look at the beast Bezos is dating

>>57390706
>Is dating and marrying a girl from a lower socioeconomic class a good financial decision?

A hard working and honest one, yes. A lazy, stupid and deceitful one, no.

>>57391467
A10 Fin here. Could you transfer a few hundred k to my account since you're my subordinate?

>>57393400
Intelligence is correlated with sexlessness in both genders same with fertility

>>57394317
I mean from their perspective. Also you could just have a sugar daddy or boyfriend.

>>57394435
>Being a doctor will attract women

>>57394435
bezos' first wife would be an example of upper class SAH wife material. she came from a good family. she attended college and a good student. she worked for a while and reduced her role in the workforce to raise their children and pursue a productive hobby (writing.)

bezos, as is typical for a fag loser nerd who has any semblance of material success, had a gay and retarded midlife crisis. he desperately re-invented his weak nerd loser phenotype with steroid abuse. he then pursued a vain and amoral relationship with a party slut who came from a lowborn spic trash family.

>>57391467
it has reached the point where the starsign crowd is more coherent

>>57390740
Not necessarily. Marriages can be annulled if you can prove the foundation is fraudulent, i.e., you can furnish proof of your expectations prior to marriage and then it becoming clear that you were deceived or outright lied to as the marriage progressed. In most places this falls under "lack of consent." The important part is that you make the expectations clear up front and probably even go so far as to include them in your vows. Being quiet about what you expect a marriage to be before you enter one is why they're allowed to get away with perverting it and abusing you.

>>57394498
You have to convince me that your cause is worthy first, Fin.

>>57394583
>half nigger puppet with a tranny "wife" on the same level of leadership as anyone from the top 3 rungs
You can teach monkies to wear clothes, and dance around for money, but that doesn't make them the Rockettes.

>>57394603
yeah, however he was president and is a senator, you are a bitter racist and will gamble away the little you have due to what some fags on the intwerbs say

also like eye colour, come on man!
what is it next week? shoe size? foreskin length?

You're asking the biggest losers of modern society?
4chins?

I’m marrying a fob, she the lowest class if you consider it “poor immigrant” but she hardworking and her mentality of wanting a better life is really good.

>>57394627
President and senator are titles that will fade with history. My White, blue-eyed soul will live on forever.

>>57394717
shure thing buddy see you in sovngarde

>>57390909
>Facts.
Anons, listen to this man. He is speaking straight facts. I'm in this position right now.
I married a beautiful, caring a loving wife. She is intelligent, so I managed to support her into developing a good career. But I was young and naive and I didn't think about her family. Big mistake! They are nice, but they're poor and financially illiterate. Needless to say that we always have to give them a hand with all their financial issues. The worst part is they won't even appreciate it that much, because they feel entitled to everything we had.

>>57392742
>Her fat tits will pull all the skin down, making her appear youthful.
lol, cute theory. come down to the south where these 'curvy' women are 80% of females and see how they age like fine wine *cough*. but the chuds and brothas love 'em nonetheless.

>>57390832
I love 4chan/pol <3
Amidst all the psyoppers and shillers I get to read the thoughts of very few sentient men like you..
It makes visiting this Langleyhive worth it!

>>57390706
do you think shes waiting for ryan reynolds to come sweep her off her feet?

>>57390832
thats totally, hundred percent true. poorfags won't be able to understand, but anyone with money knows exactly this is how it plays out.

especially, i would add, is that girls from poor background put even more emphasis on family and, maybe as coping mechanism, very little value on money. they like the flashy things they can't have, but you literally throwing money down the bin to "help" their family is met with an "... its just money"-statements. There is a reason they are poor, they neither appreciate the value of money nor the sweat, effort and DEPRIVATIONS you went through to get the money. you put it very nicely by saying "You either come to the fucking rescue like JP Morgan or you don't" - yup. either you have so money money that you can literally burn it or you shouldn't help at all.

By the way, this is also what is wrong with modern marriage. You used to buy the girl from her family, and they got a once-in-a-lifetime payment and after that *she* was in *your* family. Nowadays, she very often remains the princess within her family, while *you* become *their* ATM and provider until you die.

>>57390706
Absolutely not

The poor and rich mindset are two distinct mindsets. You can’t fix failure.

>>57390706
Charli damelio is richer than all of us put together

>>57390832
>You will be an alien to all those people, but you'll also be like a really flashy toy they all want to play with

this is pretty true.

i had a gf for a long time that came from very low class. all her family member were like honey boo boo material and would always treat me like i was Henry Fords child or something.

not only that but its impossible to convince a lower class girl that saving money is how you get rich. theres no real logic behind that either, they just cant understand it even from the perspective of moeny in the bank is money in the bank, let alone the idea of compound interest.

they think all rich people get a salary and spend it.

>>57390732
You’re a pedophile or a closeted homosexual. Simple as.

A healthy male wants big round tits ideal for feeding his children.

>>57390706
Bizlets don’t have a choice. It’s stay in the closet or stay in the hole. Any other person, male or female, plant or animal or even rock, is completely out of the question. A woman at your side is complete fairy tale. You’re better off pretending you have a lightsaber and doing a canyon run.

>>57394919
kys

>>57390706
If you can get her away from her family, sure. Otherwise don't bother. They will just look at you as their piggy bank and ask you to cover all their expenses

>>57391023
Just tell us you like to suck balls and eat the pubes, its ok to be gay

>>57390706
I was talking to jf gariepy the other day about why my relationships keep failing and his advice to me was so fucking saying rich girls who went to ivy League universities and live in expensive cities.

He told me to go move to West Virginia or Maryland and knock up some white trash girls in small town bars. He said to them I would be much more special and appreciated. They would see me as a rich guy from the city while rich girls from the city see me as poor sand basically scum.

I'm not actually going to move but it's a strategy that I hadn't considered and I think there's something to it.

All women want a guy who makes more than them. So id you don't make much, what choice do you have?

And anyway what is worse about a Walmart girl then some nyc boss bitch millionaire girl?

>>57390706
insanely breedable and fertile and good god does she know it

I did and it’s alright, but there are some issues. Her family is a little insecure about it and you can tell. Visiting her parents is tough if you’re used to living in large houses and you have to spend the night in a tiny little house with near zero privacy. Like you have to get used to shitting with her entire family essentially sitting outside the door when you’re used to shitting far away from the gathering space. Other than that it’s fine. Their morals and sanity is much more important. Obviously you don’t want someone whose family are deadbeats. I’m talking about middle class vs upper class.

>>57394915
Most first generation wealth gets evaporated in 3 generations.

Struggling is good, facing adversity is good. The only thing I will splurge on my kids is education.

>>57395058
Idk what the poster above is talking about, but a city girl demands city girl consumption.

There are good girls from the upper class but there also plenty that expect upper-middle class luxuries.

>>57390706
>marriage
>in the west
You'd have to actually be a masochist. Imagine signing on the dotted line for a contract that guarantees you nothing except you have to part ways with 50% (or more) of your net worth in the event that some woman changes her mind about you one day. LMAO.

>>57395140
>eek! I poopoo too close to inlaws! Nooooo!
what a fag, man

>go to grocery store shopping like always
>grab a cart and go collect my stuff
>on my way through the grocery store I suddenly spot her
>new girl working there and oh boy is she hot
>she has a smile that can light up any room and I can tell from afar she has a very bubbly personality
>has a really nice body too

so how would I get this girl to become my wife?
I'm rich my networth is currently at $7.9M.
Like how can I impress this girl to dump her job and live in my house with me?

>>57390713
it's true only for pleb. Old money builds and keeps wealth by marriage.

>>57395258
>Like how can I impress this girl to dump her job and live in my house with me?
You could try talking to her instead of posting on biz for a start, you sperg. Fucking lol. All that money and you can't even make the first move, puhthetic.

>>57394260
>Why do women even work these worthless jobs when they could just find some guy?
A lot of times they already have a guy. Many of the women I worked with in retail were married, usually to a guy with a trade or in the oil field, and wanted to bring in extra money for the car note or whateverthefuck. Other than that a lot of university students and single independent women. Many of the single women working these jobs are also often with either completely broke dudes or dudes with shitty jobs (like me).
t. retail worker

>>57394707
>ándale papi
talk about desperate

>>57391023
you talk like a faggot and see the world in a way similar to jeets with their castes

>>57395238
I would kill you and not even think twice about it

>>57392152
eye color has nothing to do with test you pseudoscientific faggot, it’s also much more complicated than ‘recessive’ and ‘dominant’, or else everyone would still have shit colored eyes

>>57390706
Depends on you. If you're from a rich background and firmly in the upper class maybe not but if you're a rags to riches type of dude then it might be the only fit that feels right. I used to be extremely poor before I began investing several years ago so I relate better to my wife, who was also poor, than some rich girl who's always had daddy's money or whatever. The only down side is I have to control the entirety of finances and bear the burden of stress when called for since she's terrible with money. I think the old boomer tripe about women just being bad with money in general is probably true so who gives a fuck where she comes from if her personality is HQ.

>>57394260
>Why do women even work these worthless jobs when they could just find some guy?

I have a coworker who works 70 hrs a week to bring home $70k before taxes and his wife is fat brings in $12k. I guess she might be mentally stable

>>57394317
>their wives are educated, had a successful career before doing SAH, and once the kids are in school they find something productive to take up their time.

Yeah, bored women are trouble

>>57395276
what should I say?

>>57390832
holy kek you got scammed. rich people really are dumb.

>>57390832
>>57395399
And to expand in reply to this guy sure you may be around more successful people and be in a more high performance environment avoiding these types of girls you're also taking on much more bullshit in terms of expectations of wealth and spending money. A girl who's never had shit is much less likely to demand a $500k wedding or a boat than some chick who grew up with everything she asked for. Somebody who's never been poor never learned to do without and she'd rather stress you out and make you spend more on dumb shit than just being happy with the many things you do readily provide. Food for thought anons.

>>57395457
Hi
Good morning

>>57395484
and then what?

>>57391150
You know that bill for all the missing payments is gonna come when your grandma croaks right

>>57395524
>and then what?
You build rapport. If you can get her chatting about something and the next time you see her you drop it into the conversation and chat to her again, then if you get a good feeling from her, you can try asking her out. I mean, there's no script, you're just going to have to feel it out.

>>57390732
>t. Captain of the itty bitty titty committee

>>57390706
Why would you want that one? She can’t even ring up an entire order without acting like a whore.

>>57395258
If I had 8 million dollars just chilling I would never be scared to approach a girl. Im dirt broke right now and I can do it sometimes

>>57395464
My wife gives me all her money cause she said if she kept it she would spend it on luxury goods.

Good for her, recognizing her shortfalls. I stick that shit in ETFs and I do buy luxury stuff for her when it within the budget.

Most of the girls nowadays want a guy to subsidize them while they stack their own savings.

Aka his money is ours, my money is mine.

>>57391312
He didn't want all the anons married for 6 months to tell them they're the exception who found the good girls and how great it is so he put a qualifier so it goes without saying

>>57390706
>loser family
horrible idea unless shes getting a masters in something useful

>>57395699
What's a useful master?

>>57393145
I think she has an extra chromosome 21 anon

>>57395699
>>57395722

And who the fuck works retail while getting a master's?

>>57393145
Name?

>>57394915
>they think all rich people get a salary and spend it.
This is such a hard pill to swallow but it's the truth. It will never not be insane to me that there are people out there who do not understand that *not* consuming is always an option. Even crazier, that they often are so deluded that they even go so far as to equate greater consumption with status itself.

"Oh. You didn't spend $5K on a gucci belt? It clearly must be because you can't, chum. You're obviously a broke boy, whereas I am high status because I got one on credit by using my rent money as a downpayment and forcing my children to drink water for dinner. Ta ta now, off to the back alley BBL dealers!"

>>57391810
A girl like that will get small b cups at best after getting pregnant

>>57391538
you're right, only poorfags and simps wouldn't agree with that post

>>57390713
>FPBP
/thread

>>57390713
And there we have it folks!
Thread has been shutdown!

>>57390706
yes. if they're just 18 too. Then you help her become a perfect wife with upper class sensibilities

>>57395524
make a comment about anything that makes her stand out
>nice shoes shes wearing
hey those are nice shoes, I've always like XX brand
>nice color hair
hey you have lovely hair, may I ask what products you use
>nice smile, pants, shoelaces...whatever
point out something that she put some effort into and offer a positive comment
If she wants to continue the conversation she'll respond back in kind.

>>57390724
Kek

>>57392716
holy shit that video was cringe

>>57390832
>>57390909
>>57391023
>>57391074
From the bottom of my heart anon - thank you

>>57390715
That's Charlie D'Amelio, she's so enthusiastic because she's a stupid whore influncer and she's just cosplaying a Wallmart wagie.

>>57390706
Charli is so based

>>57390909
Hey man will you be my daddy

>>57390832
This is so Jewish but so true

I was talking to a Walmart chick and I told her she looked out of place at her job. Instead she looked at me like I insulted her when I was trying to compliment her that she deserved better. I legit don't know how she misconstrued it the wrong way

>>57390706
I think someone that grew up poor is usually better at saving money.

>>57391312
if u marry a woman with money and divorce grape her

>>57395204
My point was that it's probably a good idea to get a lower class girl as long as she's cute. That's all that's important right? What good is a woman with money? How is that going to improve anyone's life?

>>57398867
why do you think dynastic jewish families are still here today?

antisemites hate jews because of envy.

>>57399037
wrong, she's low class for a reason. looks fade with age, intelligence does not. keep in mind low class = stupid in every domain, for the most part. so there's a 50/50 chance your kid comes out retarded too.

a women with money generally means her family is rich, this means you won't deal with peasants begging you for money because your now "family". along with desirable traits that comes with wealth and the social pressures that ensures your marriage succeeds/ends in a positive manner (less chance of divorce rape)

>>57390832
Just in general people who grow up in polar opposite socioeconomic environments don’t see eye to eye on many things. Their entire lived experiences are different. But sometimes they get married and I have yet to see this end well. I watched a wealthy female friend from high school marry a pauper man out of love. Fast forward over 20 years and he’s living the neet life smoking weed and playing video games while she does her medical thing and has hired help to do all the cooking and cleaning. She is miserable but for whatever reason won’t divorce him. Another well-off friend I met in college married some dirt-poor third-world Guatemalan and all she has done is chain migrate her dirt-poor family for him to help through school and of course her parents who are elderly and need care which is expensive. So he’s away working his ass off while wifey poo stays at home caring for her parents who live in their home and there’s always some cousin or something bunking there as well. Another friend from high school who was lower middle class and could never land that one cheerleader he crushed on wound up making a very lucrative career for himself. Then when that one cheerleader he couldn’t land back in the day got divorced she looked him up on Facebook and he eagerly married her and took in her three shitty kids as well, complete with behavioral problems. She just spends his money and all he gets in return is a dead bedroom.

>>57393145
>reward people for doing their job

This faggot tips.

>>57398982
This, but they're almost too good at saving money, they cheap out on everything and are afraid of treating themselves or anyone. That or they feel guilty when they finally attain wealth and give it away to people who are in the position they used to be in. Not sure which is worse. In both cases the money doesn't really exist.

>>57390706
That girl would never marry you. GigaChad only.
She can be a street-sweeper, but if she looks like that it's GigaChad only. Always and forever. Get it through your skull

>>57398982
>>57399181

I used to work with lots of working class people and they're often living paycheck to paycheck.

>>57390832
>Mancave
This is ironic right? That's a fucking dentist office. Not an inch of comfort in sight.

>>57399210
There a ton if working class people that are also millionaires.

It really a money management issue. Live below your damn means. People from rich families are also not economically productive as their parents.

That why alot of doctors also live paycheck to paycheck.

>>57399210
Everyone lives paycheck to paycheck when they have a shit wage retard. It's not by choice. But once they get money they're much better with it than people who are born into wealth because they've been living off of 2k a month for years. Give them 8k/month and they'll bank 6k without thinking.

>>57393338
>But young early 20s girls are like mould, her 1 year time with you is like a big % of her life considering up to 12 she basically didint even have a mind of her own.
Go for 18 year olds not early 20s

>>57399284
>But once they get money they're much better with it than people who are born into wealth because they've been living off of 2k a month for years.

Your poor and it shows, retard

>>57399305
You're shit with money and it shows, faggot.

>>57399266
>There a ton if working class people that are also millionaires.

No there aren't. Those stories of some working class boomers with millions in the bank are rare

>>57399323
They literally did a study on this. Alot of them are living in blue-collar neighborhoods.

They aren’t living in those upper-class communities. They drive beaters and are frugal.

>>57399345
You mean people who bought houses in the 60s & 70s and now are worth close to a mil + a pension are *gasp* "millionaires"

>>57399323
this, any idiot can work a 70k a year job and save for 25 years and be a "millionaire". in reality they are poor.

colloquially "millionaire" means someone in their late 20s early 30s, who owns a business. with 1 million in cash.

>>57399345
You either didn't fully comprehend the book or are being disingenious because most middle and working class wealth is tied up in home equity. They literally just bought a house 30 years ago and will take that house to their grave.

>>57399379

"My definition is everyone else's definition"

Faggot

>>57399385
There was very little about the book in regards to property ownership. It about lifestyle creep and living below your means and being economically productive, as well as mitigating taxes.

I’d date just about anyone who would be interested in dating me. I’m a hermit with no friends whatsoever. I’d do it just for the friendship alone.

>>57399468
>I’d date just about anyone
OKay, lets date, anon.

>>57390706
Sexiest cuban girls.

>>57390832
>>57390909
Okay
So where do I got to meet rich 22yos
>no you're supposed to marry a 42yo who already has her life together
Oh I see you're a roastie.

>>57390909
>Do not involve yourself in the complete failure businesses (and families are like businesses in many ways) of others. You're getting lured in by the pussy.
Wtf this is literally my mom, brother, cousins, aunts and uncles.

>>57399520
>So where do I got to meet rich 22yos

If you don't know then you're not rolling with that socioeconomic class

>>57399520
Idk but i’m a diaspora shit so bad here in the states I went back home for a wife.

>writes a novel about not marrying poor girls
>seethe spams like a chimp when called out that most rich girls are kikes and generally stupid
Kek

>>57399568
Makes me wonder if we have JEETs here if they think social class is fixed like their caste system.

>>57399568
Just marry a 42yo roastie bro, what are you poor?

>>57390832
women are for making babies. what is this gay shit? I got a poor girl as wife and she is happy taking care of our 1st child. She is talking about making a 2nd (i told her 4 is the minimum). I work and provide for my family since im rich. She also mimics everything i say on politics. i.e. she hates kikes
I also made it clear ill find another woman if she becomes a hagg (made her sign the prenup)
tl;dr make women pregnant and have many aryan children.

>>57399520
>So where do I got to meet rich 22yos
why would you go for 22 year olds and not 18 year olds? is 4chan now cucked too?

>>57399665
Pretty good example of what a typical biz poster imagines how it will go. A poor girl who has a small network of friends and family giving him children.
How it actually goes is a vast web of leeches causing all kinds of chaos in your life. One of her cousins goes to jail for whatever reason? Guess who is taking care of her kids in the meantime since dad is long gone (or in prison). Sibling lay off? Guess who is going to be helping them get on their feet for the next 3 years.

>>57399701
It really ain’t proper.

>>57399719
>american poor girl

Bad choice, they know their rights, gotta go abroad to get the proper one.

>>57395300
Kek

>>57391023
>not in the USA
Just offer her dad a gun and tell him there is a quick way out of his suffering. I plan to gift this to myself at that point

>>57399766
>I plan to gift this to myself at that point
I’ll do this for my daughters, unironically, that aren’t going to be rich but surely very smart and excellent genetics

>>57399701
Because the woman in my image is 42 and I'm making a point that most "rich women" are in their 40s, single and unfuckable roastoids who chose cock carousel and career over husband because our system is broken.

>>57394338
This scares me I’m looking at
Marriage right now. What problems are you having?

>>57399725
how is that not proper?

>>57399826
You’ll get looks when you go out.

>>57399838
by 30 year old women and zoomer incels. who cares?

>>57390832
100% correct, thread could've ended here. An addendum I'd make: marrying a girl from a lower *economic* class is ok as long as she's from an equal or higher social class. E.g., grandparents are well-off, girl's parent's decided to slum it as creative types, girl doesn't have much herself but was raised to act with a degree of class. Additional caveat is that race matters more than any of that and if you're anglo-american or german-american (scots-irish excluded) and you stick within your race you'll probably be fine with anyone that's physically healthy.

Didn't you see Crazy Rich Asians? Didn't you see all the drama and trauma it causes?

>>57390832
>Men rescuing women
Any man whose simp angle is "saving" his partner gets what he deserves. Also, you're gay. A little right, but super gay. You probably watched Crazy Rich Asians.

>>57395524
I'm a bit like you anon. I realized somewhere along the way I never learned how to talk to girls. It's not that I can't make conversation or be interesting, it's that I can't MOVE THINGS ALONG. I blame it on moving all the time as a kid.

>>57399939
Rachel got accepted by evelyn though and rachel father was also richer than evelyn in the sequel.

But it as the saying goes, women marry up.

This is a known thing.

>>57398982
This only applies to the ones that will probably not remain poor.

>>57393145
i thought he asked her for a toothbrush because she looks like she has no teeth

>>57399986
>But it as the saying goes, women marry up.

If they're hot, yes but most will remain within their socioeconomic class

>>57400071
Most women are average. Go outside of the USA and you will see that.

It just pussy so inflated in the USA/west.

>>57391804
Unless she is an orphan, no.

Orphan is destined for greatness while family issues is destined for ruin.

They’re called femfatales for a reason anon

>>57391896
You can’t change them. They can only change themselves.

Best to leave them in their financial poverty like anon said >>57390832

>>57400149
>Most women are average

Yes and most people are working class

>>57390706
Marrying a woman who is equal to or under you is a waste of time. at minimum she'll take half her shit when she decides to leave not if, when. There are only 2 winning options

Marry someone with a significantly higher net worth or income potential than you own.

Don't get married.

There is no third option.

>>57400219
This equation doesn’t work because women want to marry someone who makes more than them. The last 50-100 yeara are an anomaly, that really not gonna last.

>>57390832
>>57390909

I am currently going through this and what others have posted to a tee even tho I'm not that wealthy, I did make 130k last year tho for an idea. I'm engaged to a girl and her and her family are guilty of everything posted. what do i do now tho bros? I rarely see her anyway due to her poor choices (she chose a shitty job and a extracurilular where I dont see her except for one night/sleepover a week)

she was a virgin before i met her which is making the situation difficult

>>57391312
it means you are receiving advice from the pinnacle of humanity gathered on this very forum

>>57400219
this
>>57400247
why do you think less and less ppl commit?

>>57390713
fpbp

>>57399013
What are divorce grapes?

>>57401462
That’s not even a half white baby. That’s full monkey. She’s not the mom

>>57401462
seriously, why bother talking to her again?

>>57390706
BUILT FOR BIG NIGGER AIDS STICKS
CALLING IT NOW

>>57401500
Cope.

>>57390732
You are a homosexual.

>>57390732
BASED

I wish I could just ask a girl to marry me while hiding my true wealth (destitute)

>>57390706

It's the most likely outcome. Men date across or down, women date across or up.

A lot of it still has to do with your looks and personality too. If you expect to have a great family/sex life just because you have a certain amount of money, you're in for a rude awakening.

>>57393408

Kek.

>>57391046
imagine thinking this dumb bitch is interesting

>>57393145
just imagine how ugly and frail she is going to look like when she is 40...

little trailer trash. disgusting.

>>57403075
Imagine this thread being on /biz/.

>>57399882
Why scots-Irish?

>>57390832
Why Ozark?

>>57391631
Ah, a Plague Tale. Cool game.

>>57390713

>>57398799
Internet says she is 19 but she looks 30

Anyway I'd bang her

>>57390732
Sign of immature sexual maturation, improper psychosexual development. It's fine to be attracted I guess but she will bear frail children.

>>57390832
I'm inclined to agree with you a bit. I'm from an upper-middle-class family. Relative to so many of my friends, it's like being Timon of Athens from Shakespeare, as my friends are always asking me for a bit of cash for their sob story until there's nothing left to give. It's especially that way for my parents every time a lower-income family we know has a business failing, gets cancer, et cetera. We may have some wealth, but we're not Mark Zuckerberg.
Years ago when I was still a teenager, I dated one of the great loves of my life. She had these beautiful blue eyes, but came from a dirt poor family. She was so loving back then, but trouble followed her everywhere. I wonder if we could've lived happily together, but it wasn't her world. My parents could've even provided for our children to some extent. She became a medical assistant like so many other young women her age and basically failed at that too. She married someone else then divorced them, then married again. We'd probably have divorced too over something petty. Maybe, we both never really understood each other's world, that's the problem.

My sister is a doctor and is marrying a rich lawyer. It was always going to be this way for her since she was never willing to be poor. They're happy.
Though it's not good for me, I still have this yearning instinct, like you said to come to the rescue of a blue-collar girl in the image of my blue-eyed teenage gf.

>>57393263
tell me you don't read without telling me, this is the most common sense argument one could make of the position he's taking and no unique takes lol

>>57390832
>"hey, I finally got drafted onto the Yankees, now let me take this hand gun and shoot myself in the kneecap.
Kek that's good one.

>>57398982
NOPE not true.
Someone who was poor wont know how to handle real money and end up blowing it and be back poor again.
Look at all the lottery winners, dead or broke

>>57390740
> What's with /biz/ and fetishism of the captured institution of marriage?
This

>>57403384
not true mothers can have big boobs and sons can be still skinny

>>57395058
that guys been divorced like 3 times

>>57398879
Because the way I would interpret it is "You have made poor decisions to end up here." It also speaks to a lack of decorum about discussing one in an unfortunate state. Nobody dreams of working at Walmart, and to point out the obvious and seemingly shame her for it is offensive.
I understand what you were trying to say, but that's how it came across.

>>57399238
You are a retard. "The cave" or platos cave is a very basic thought experiment.
Be less confident next time you don't recognize something

>>57399284
You are very optimistic and believe people aren't craven pigs. In reality, what they do is they begin spending to match their needs, even if it's purposeless or provides little joy. They'll buy another car that they don't need or particularly want. They'll eat out and order food all the time because "I can afford it". Subscription services.
Maybe they can afford it. But there's way less saved than there should be if they were just responsible about their needs and desires. But if they were, they wouldn't be pigs in human clothing.

>>57404627
>You have made poor decisions to end up here

Damn that sucks.
"I have also made poor life decisions"

>>57391799
>everyone on 4chan has to use the same terminology (missed the memo I guess?) otherwise we magically become reddit

>this entire thred
TL;DR: Don't marry poor latinas. She and her family will financially ruin your life. Also don't get married in general, you retard.

>>57390706
I think that video is so funny, I don't care how much you faggots seethe.

>>57406099
alright look let me tell you about something called slothbucks where we don't concern ourselves with such trivial bullshit we don't worry about gold digging whores or having our money wasted by our wives and our in-laws in fact we don't have time for any of that noise because we're too busy making money and buying slothbucks like the real bosses we are

>>57403238
There are good people among them, but the Appalachian hillbillies are very much set apart of their own and have a higher propensity for self-destructive behavior than other American whites. Just have to be a little more careful is all.

>>57404638
Use a better mancave as an example next time, it'll make the image less confusing.

>>57406474
>he doesn't even know the story behind that pic
Lurk moar or go back. Your choice. Just stfu about things you don't know about.

>>57402960
This. Hate to break it to you losers but the cream of the crop retail girl who is hot, smart, wholesome and in school for a real career is going after her equal. Aka the hot, smart, young blue collar guy coming into his own. Their shared goals of making better lives together and similar childhoods for relateability = long term marriage success. I know two relationships like this where after marrying in their 20s are now in their 40s the guy is pulling in 400k/yr and the women 200/k a year with 2-3 kids.

These girls are wary of incels with money + chips on their shoulders. The incel cope will find them with sluts who are lying off their ass about their hidden baggage until it's too late.

>>57390909
fuck pussy I'm just trying to open something that will generate income for me and my parents
https://tallycoin.app/@lebanonanon/opening-a-street-kebab-kiosk-2UAFa1w5/
can anyone unironically help me out?

>>57406830
>LebAnon Monero begger is back
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>>57390740
This board is filled with incels listening to YouTubers telling them to find a "tradwife". Respectively, they're fucking pathetic.

>>57390740
Because /pol/ told us that it's our mission to save the white race, our well being is irrelevant

>>57390706

Secular marriages are not worth it. Don't marry a Godless heathen whore.

>>57390706
To answer the question; it depends.
For example, I am black. I would NEVER marry a poor US ghetto woman, due to the values.

However, I DEFINITELY would marry a poor daughter of hardworking African immigrants...due to the values.

>>57407620
yeah this, anons here are fucking delusional think we're still in the 50s or some shit lmao
21st century marriage is a voluntary enslavement contract for men and a jackpot for women

>>57407664
Don't you have a worldstar forum to go nig up?

>>57390732
I confirm
t. flat chested baby faced asian chick enjoyer, now married to one

>>57390832
>>57390909
This is all true. I come from lower class poverty. Think retail and fast food jobs, unkempt homes, smoking, obesity, lifestyle diseases, mental illness, poor financial choices, you name it. I managed to get out of that environment, get a good paying job, and marry a girl who comes from actual generational wealth.

My family and I have nothing in common anymore and I get the sense that they resent me for doing better than them. I feel like I need to keep them at arms length because I know that the moment they need money to get out of some stupid situation of their own doing, they're going to come calling.

>>57406474
I didn't post the image newfag, read the IDs

>>57406979
fuck off kike