/biz/ - Business & Finance

>tfw no GF to gift silver to
>tfw most women out there wouldn't appreciate it anyway
;_;

What is a Bitcoin ETF?
I want to hear from people who are not true believer in everything crypto, I figured this was the best place to ask.

>>57258990
Same as a silver or gold ETF. You can "buy" and sell it at spot with less than or no additional fees usually associated with it. Basically if you don't hold it you don't own it. It's for fools.

>>57258695
Based ARFCOM boomer

good morning, the united states government is an illegitimate entity

>>57258145

Also be sure to ignore posters like pic related. They have been posting non stop for over 48 hours, only sleeping 5 hour increments.

>>57260034
filtered for being a piece of shit

>>57259265
So it offers nothing, not a basket of crypto related stock etc. It just makes it to where I don’t have possession of the BTC that I exchange cash for.
The expectation is that people will make more speculative trades on the spot price of bitcoin i guess, however people will be making future contracts for bitcoin now and the whole thing is going to be papered over. WTF is this economy anyway? JFC
This is some serious joke, how will the authorities ensure and report that the underlying bitcoin is held in an institutions wallet. It won’t be just one wallet either, I know they will be trading it out to each other 24/7. Can I have the address?
I can take “Digital” possession of bitcoin on most trading platforms. Can I take Digital delivery of bitcoin based on the number of share I have? Will they also be alloted a percentage of ETH (does that count towards my ownership) to facilitate exchange. How much? Who at the SEC even has the knowledge to regulate it and how is it regulated when its not even legally recongized as a security or currency? What laws are the books to keep institutions accountable as it pertains to Cryptocurrency ETFs when there is no legal clarity?
Who asked for this? Why did they do it?

The shills are alread trying 2 demoralize.
Post stacks, post memes, it makes them seethe.

>>57260060
crypto etf is basically a bail in; normies get to hold the bags of big financial institution; also known as risk

>>57260113
>not your keys
>not youe coins
At least the mantra serves as a warning that its not yours to begin with.

>>57260106
you have no stack to post; youre one of the shill(s) shitting up the general

>>57260138
fuck off with the stale memes. its repellent and killsvthe general but you fuckers already know this

>>57260139
>no timestamp
>announced a filter
>hates memes
Can you even hold silver barehanded without burning your skin

>>57260113
Makes sense. They want to use other peoples money to manipulate the bitcoin price. That’s all it is. Thanks. Good luck with metals, I can’t imagine a world that is not completely twisted. Looks like bitcoin is going to be subject to the same shit you guys deal with for Silver paper contracts.

>>57260202
Crypto went from double fiat to triple fiat
>>57260154
Fag now in filtering you.

>>57260202
>using other peoples money to affect the price.
Theyve been doing it legally the whole time, via rehypothecation

>>57260202
>deal with for Silver paper contracts
Yes but that's advantageous for us to slurp now.
>inb4 2 more weeks

Sound money is gigachad, anything else is fake & gay

To the Hgc/cox id

In the early 2000's the dept of defense had a stockpile it got for about 3 or 4 bucks an oz, lately they have been having to cough up 30 an oz. I wonder if the premiums on the silver eagles going down had anything to do with that.

>>57259982
Based.

Stack metals of all different kinds frens.
Never be demoralized
Never give up
Never capitulate

Form a business. An anon in recent threads is accumulating tools so that he can melt and cast metals safely. Very motivating, he sets a fine example to follow.

>>57260113
It's a whole new market where they can trade OTC with billions, snatch money from various public and private accounts, and prop themselves up by making massive profits swinging. This was the obvious next play. The "hacked" tweet by the sec chair Tuesday was so they could see the algos from the trading bots they don't control and ensure their funds got solid buyin pricing.

This is the beginning of the end for crypto. I've been saying it forever. The next step will be to pump their ETFs into oblivion when stocks inevitably begin to tank so normies will call their 401k managers asking if they can shift some of their money into a BTC ETF...the last real crypto bullrun will be recorded as having officially started yesterday.

>>57260642
There are a million crypto threads go to one of those buddy

>>57260527
>Stack metals of all different kinds frens.

>>57260733
Based metals stacker. Whats your favorite metal? Mine is cast iron

>>57260713
I was just giving my input on someone's question, which is fairly relevant to how the collapse of fiat will play out, but please enjoy my hanging bankster round.

>>57260769
No particular preference, but tungsten's density and affordability in significant masses makes it interesting to play with.

>>57258990
It's paper bitcoin that boomer trade on boomer stock market brokers.

Silver sisters on suicide watch. Bitcoin Boys finally won.

>>57260919
He writes like a shillnig who bought in november of 2021.

Im torn between a nice design and a circulatable coin, they have juxtaposing styles yet I like them both. The intricate feathers of birds or lines of architecture, contrast with the robust reliefs that weather the wear gracefully.

>>57260806
Tungsten is pretty cool. I have Tungsten carbide tools and they last forever, just dont drop'm because they're more brittle than high speed steel.
You should add a sample of high speed steel to that too. Would fit nicely in a row above the precious metals, like on the periodic table. Theres a table of isotopes that looks like a giant teardrop gotta find a picture of it

>>57261107
>high speed steel
Meh. Not an element.

Ordereded some knew additions to the stag!
Kan't wait to get dem!
Soooo shynie!

>>57261165
>not an element
True, i had forgotten of the purity of that particular stack for one moment. Just uh be careful when you add uranium pucks to the stack, if you see a faint glow thats just it oxidizing and nothing to worry about hahaahah

>>57261187
Based philharmonics. I like the edge even though its un-reeded, it just has that shine that a musical instrument would

>>57258990
>What is a Bitcoin ETF?
An exchange traded fund, but with moar Bitcorns! (which might or might not actually be Bitcorns, or maybe just IOUs of Bitcorns, or even layers of layers of IOUs, who knows…)
>I want to hear from people who are not true believer in everything crypto, I figured this was the best place to ask.
I'd debate that this is the best place to ask, but it certainly is better than in a crypto echo chamber.
>>57259265
>Basically if you don't hold it you don't own it. It's for fools.
Yes and no. If everything collapses, you're fucked indeed, but so are you if you hold a traditional ETF or even bog standard stocks. Pro tip: you don't even get a paper for those anymore, it's all electronic and held in custody god knows where.
So looking at it from this angle, it's just your average financial product, and as such, if you believe the can's gonna get kicked down the road further and BTC is gonna rise further (again), it's probably a good diversification to add to your portfolio, without having to go through another KYC at some shady crypto exchange that'll either get hacked and leak your data or will turn out to be a fraud like that, what was it's name? SBF-exchange…
Personally, I have a few moneys in a BTC ETF (or whatever it is, it's around since a while in the EU) as I do in various others (including a Gold one…), but I also have some real BTC in my own wallet, bought anonimously, just as my physical gold and silver.
It's all about a good mix to be prepared for everything (Also, I'm prepared for Booba coins to moon, pic related!)

>>57261225
Kek... I did make one exception for that.
Uranium glass.

>>57260733
>>Stack metals of all different kinds frens.
>metals
Uhhhh…

>>57261335
>Uhhhh…
Yourself

>>57261335
1/500 of an oz
Hahaha whats the diameter of that little thing

>>57261440
Don't know.
tiny.
It's a scam to get retarded boomers to buy insanely high premiums (I'm talking about IQDELET levels of premiums) gold.
But yeah, I'd love to have one for the lulz.

>>57260919
Whats the bottom and when, thinking of buying some silver.
>>57261278
The boomers I’ve spoken to about crypto act like they’d rather walk over broken glass than put any money in crypto

silver can't do anything but shit the bed it seems, might sell some of my stack today

>>57261536
Don't catch a falling knife. Silver is only going down from here.

>>57261629
I’ll wait till it hits $18-20. seems like a floor just looking at the chart

>57261629
>57261622
>57261536
>G-g-guy please buy crypto instead the etfs, only boomers hate it hehe your not a boomer are you?

>>57261791
Nah fuck crypto but also fuck silver. I'd rather get more gold and platinum at this point.

>>57261791
Have you even read my posts. Always a fucking headcase emotionally attached to their investments that blindly sees everyone as trying to fud their bags. There is even intra crypto psychosis.I figured Metals stackers would be more stable, seemed like you picked up a bunch of hype lords from the squeezening.

>>57261833
>fuck silver
Why? it has half industrial and also has half being used for the same shit gold as used for, scarce store of value. Seems like the best of both worlds. I’m going to take advantage of this dip. I hope Kawasaki is right and there is blood in the streets. $18-20? anyone see it going lower? Its been doing that rubber band pattern for years. It looks like a low Mcap penny stock. I bet it fucking pops hard at some point.

>>57261629
>>57261781
meh, people have been calling $18 silver forever
i doubt it

>>57261833
gold is dumping too
you people are retarded, especially if you're buying shatinum
nothing wrong with silver

>>57260118
nice stack
>>57260198
kek
>>57260527
Minerals are cool too if you live in an area where they are mined and can get good pricing; I have access to cheap fluorite.

Today's mail call. Is Masonic gold cursed?

>>57262028
I think its 20 at worst. There was a descending wedge until it hit $18 late 2022. Higher lows now, and the highs are all averaged out. Tighter rubber band past that point. Smaller fluctuations in price, looks like a crab that won’t sink.

>>57262091
yeah I'll make a big buy at $20 if we get there

>>57262013
>Why?
Because silver is weak af against inflation compared to it's utility.
Maybe it's pure manipulation. I don't see it ever ending in our lifetimes at least.

>>57262045
>gold is dumping too
gold is near ATH, silver just shits the bed continually for decades

>>57262131
hurf durf, basic bitch silver fud
yawn
still stackin

>>57262168
YAWN

How's everyone doing today?

What do you see Silver and Gold doing over the next 3 months?

>>57262188
yawn too.

>>57262188
i always thought political silver was dumb, you're just alienating potential buyers/traders

>>57261289
Uranium glaze is nice too!

will you people get your poison uranium cancer stuff outta here. it's gross

>>57262214
>>57262491
seething, eat a snickers

almost time to sell

>>57262491
Uranium is the hero you don't deserve.

I am just back from a couple months in Japan. I hope you lunatics are doing well. Picrel is 120 grams of silver. Emperor Meiji commemorative. Sorry for fuzzy photo.

>>57262635
Flip side

>>57262131
>Because silver is weak af against inflation
It’s interesting that everyones investment thesis has become beat inflation.
It wasn’t always like this, Sure, it was a consideration. People still did value plays. Silver seems like a value play to me. It hasn’t tracked well against inflation. But thats not really a concern, it looks like a good price point with a higher future value.
The media has people scurrying like rats to assets that have shown a steady increase over time. Whatever happened to making a good pick?
This hysteria has blinded people to traditional investing. Doesn’t anyone want to do more than beat inflation?
I lost a few bags in FTX because i forgot that I even had anything in there. It seems like the same shit can be done with stocks because you don’t even have it. No one feels bad for crypto kiddies and they just laugh. If it happens on the stock market no one is going to be laughing. Gotta get me a bag that they’d have to come to my home to take away from me. Isn’t that also utility fren?

>>57262635
>>57262649
very exquisite

>>57262665
>The media has people scurrying like rats to assets that have shown a steady increase over time. Whatever happened to making a good pick?
true.
like, how dumb can you get, you only invest in stuff that has already gone up? that doesn't sound very smart

>>57262513
Where did you get those nazi coins? Are they made of silver?

>>57262665
So fucking true. My brain has switched to thinking like that too. I didn’t do that prior to post COVAIDS inflation

>>57262718
of course, those are reichsmarks
you can find em on ebay, hard to get a good deal on em nowadays though

>>57262367
It is! I have a small orange pitcher from around 1900. I wonder if it's Uglaze? Any way to tell?

>>57262635
>>57262649

That's really cool.

>>57262734
Gotta buy in bulk from European suppliers

Posting in the only based thread on biz

This is the cherry on top of my stack. This is the last piece I’m going to buy for a while. WAGMI frens.

>>57262810
Too bad the majority of them only ship to Europe.

>>57262740
1900 seems a little early, but I'm not sure. A Geiger counter will tell you for certain. And it's fun to bring it to antique stores and scan stuff.

>>57262933
nice one, silver with gold plating?

Any spot deals or very close to spot deals going on right now that you guys know about? Already got the spot deals for the apmex app, and most of the new customer deals for various sites.

>>57263004
That is correct fren!

eBay is such a scam. Says in their T&Cs you can't sell replica coins, this is quite obviously a scam. the twat is trying to make it seem like it's a genuine sovereign and states "replica coin, not gold" at the bottom of the description.

Each time I report it their AI response is "nah it's cool"

>>57263062
probably not, those deals are pretty rare. loved the black friday spot deals i got last year though

>>57262635
>>57262649
that's awesome

>>57263379
>Le 5%
>Biggest ever
Honestly that’d be kinda sad if I didn’t despite the government and all government employees.

>>57263115
I was able to snag a couple, but fuck. This community can be straight up vultures sometimes. Most of the deals sold out within minutes, sometimes seconds, which I mean is great for those that got it, but damn lol

>>57263444
How do you feel about government contractors, fren?

>>57263444
it's better than the private sector

>>57263379

IT IS GOING DOWN THIS FUCKING YEAR

The biggest rugpull in human history, as the USD is intentionally tanked and massive wars and chaos are then instigated across the globe.

Your savings will be DELETED
Your currency will be worth NOTHING
You will be on your own as this multicultural failure of a society tears itself apart.

Dont say you werent warned. Buy guns ammo food and gold/silver now.

>>57260527
>Never capitulate

Based

>>57263471
Don’t mind me. It’s tax time and i’m angry again.
>>57263484
On the whole maybe. It’s still pitiful if you can’t move into a higher position every few years with a much larger bump.

Keep on stacking frens

>>57263587

>>57263587
Still stackin

>>57263516
Based

>>57263582
so am i

>>57262635
>>57262649
Fantastic. Great to see some numismatics that I have never seen before.

>>57263067
That's why I don't report shit on ebay or 4chan. If a site refuses to fix a problem I'm not going to keep bugging them about it. I assume they want the problem.

>>57263992
Sick pic, bro.

I need to take an updated “Pepe the cigar box guardian” pic. Got another 20 Balboa (pbuh) and 3 crusaders to add.

>>57264436
The moment the post says “replica” they have free reign. The biggest safeguard to this is just not buying from scams. Reputable dealers and boomers are 10/10 on eBay and they’re my go to for auctions where you can usually beat store pricing.

>>57264500
I've still gotten ripped off a couple times on ebay by jumping in too fast and not reading the description or doing my homework. If the deal looks really good people will bid first and then read after.

but hopefully those sellers get enough cancellations and returns to cost ebay some money and that's the only thing they respond to. You can do pretty much anything on ebay except repeatedly cost them money.

WAGMI

>>57264533
>I've still gotten ripped off a couple times on ebay by jumping in too fast and not reading the description or doing my homework.
That's being "careless", not "ripped off."
And I've done that, too. The real point is to learn from that.

>>57263516
Take your meds schizo. The economy is stronger than it has been in years

>Silver at $22.x
do I buy or is it going LOWER hmm

>>57264701
Will we ever see $5 silver again?

>>57264292
Based numismatic

>>57264813
There'd have to be some turbo giga deflation to consider that one.

>>57264671
My meds are pic related. Colloidal silver keeps me sharp.

Wait so what’s the fucking point of stacking nickels and clad half dollars?

I’ll happily be the autistic guy buying 10$ of nickels twice a week but I need to know the end game.

>>57264671
>The economy is stronger than it has been in years
Number go up, so economy must be better, right.

cleaned rms?

>>57264956
To Survive deflation, the tide pulls back before the tsunami of inflation.
Also the inflation is entirely the fault of the federal reserve who has burdened us with debt, then charges us 1 trillion a year in usury interest. Then to pay that they raise the debt and print more to parasitically reward themselves. Previously the treasury issued debt free money and before that certificates redeemable in silver or gold.

>>57265007
I have a 5Rm that was cleaned, it looked like wire brushed. My brother tried to clean it like 20 years ago kek its somewhere in a cache, i never organized my coins, just kept piling them up

>>57265048
So why stack copper and nickel instead of silver or gold. What makes this a worthwhile allocation of funds?

>>57264956
Also there was a point in time when 20 nickels exchanged for a silver dollar; that and 100 copper pennies.

>>57265068
>instead of
Stack both fren, i see it as insurance for prices dropping. A couple $100 boxes of nickels paired with some $25 boxes of coins is almost nothing in the grandscheme of stacking gold and silver, thats why it can't hurt too much to have some current us coinage. The us dollar is defacto still cupronickel backed.

>>57265068
>clad half dollars
Also pic related

>>57265126
What is pic related telling me? That other nations saw growth in the spot value of their coinage? Am I retarded?

>>57265112
If prices drop what good would boxes of nickels be? I’d sooner stack them for their raw nickel content. If we hit a digital future hard these quarters will become pricey heirlooms of an ancient era.

This stacking change shit has got me horny dawgs:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F-aYOYrTJKw

How you get me stacking is the schizo theory that change will eventually be pulled off the market completely. There’s been shortages of them everywhere. That’s the schizo take; the pocket change short.

Hello /40kpmg/

>>57262207
Silver stuffers.

>>57265186
>digital future
Hahahaha the one that states
>not your keys
>not your coins
Literally telling you that it's not yours.
>worthless heirlooms
Just think about what exists in a physical plane and what does not exist in the physical plane. Tangible>intangible

>>57265242
The change shortage happened twice already in the past 4 or 5 years. I paid for my groceries during the 2020 bs using rolls of nickels, ended up getting massive discounts discounts. Coinage is the ultimate freedom of money, its more durable than paper money too.

>>57264958
>Number go up, so economy must be better, right.
Those are kind of the indicators used, yes.
Raise your spirits a bit:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2024/01/07/fareeds-take-america-problems-gps-vpx.cnn

>>57265344
>>57265317
The only hurdle for most is the government penalizing defacing currency but I guess when things get ugly enough it’s good to have solid coins.

It can’t hurt to hunt half dollars for silver and save the rest. Is there a recommended coin? Half? Quarter? Nickel?

>>57265349

>.CNN

The fuck out of here with that MSM bullshit. The economy sucks cock.

>>57265361
That choice is up to you. I personally have the most in nickels. Quarters might be useful too if things get all vending machined out again.

>>57265370
If you can't hear what the 'other' side is saying, you won't know what you're up against, or see what might be coming because you're blinded by your closed-mindedness.
Seethe and stay ignorant. You have every right to make bad decisions.

>>57265419
I’ve got a stack of nickels and pennies and I save both when I get change but that’s the extent of my Cu/Ni stacking. Can’t justify it when I could be stacking shrek rounds.

>>57265439
I haven't clicked on cnn since September 2001. Im doing great, stacking metals, own a small business.
>edit
Acksheually i possibly clicked on one in 2008, dont remember what jnewsagency it was but it clickbaited me pretty good lmao

>>57265473
>Im doing great,
There you go. Just like the editorial suggests.

>>57265471
>Can’t justify it when I could be stacking shrek rounds.
I didn't know such a based phrase could be uttered.
>shrek rounds
I need Shrek rounds in my life. I have very few meme coins, i mainly stack silver eagles for the weight; i understand the numismatic value behind the design and craftsmanship going into the memecoins, which explains their premium ‐its a nice design and someone worked hard to make it so.

>>57265504
im doing great
>see see nothings wrong with the world cnn is totally right the economy is great
I see you are fallacy connoisseur

>>57265504
But one look into the state of things: pic related. The ownership is totally skewed people do not own their retirements. The only things doing good are tangible businesses, something that the jnews crews will always fail to mention because they want to steal peoples wealth

>>57265349
Then go and collect your Zimbabwe fiat dollars and become a multi trillionaire.

>>57265553
He gets the tulips.. . Or should he be forced to use the kilograms of bitcoins currency

>>57265563
Bitcoin currency weights something?

>>57261499
is the royal mint a bad place to buy silver/gold? Will be feeling mighty retarded if so.

>>57265534
>>57265553
>Ad hominem, rage but no substance
>>57265548
>Fall back on go-to conspiracy theories
Not saying those are wrong, but if it's the way the world actually operates, learn to play that game.

>>57265583
It's the safest place to buy silver and gold. Their quality control is hit and miss. I once had a silver Britannia with a massive scratch across one of its faces.

>>57265509
And there is a limited mintage of them with only one date. Don’t get me started on the Shrek Christmas round.

>>57265603
>Ad hominem
It's not an ad hominem when my original point was number go up. Go collect your Zimbabwe fiat dollars and become a multi trillionaire.

>>57265633
is it an appeal to emotion?

>>57265611
It's good to know they're trustworthy. I've never had any big issues with their quality although I did get a kilo of silver from them with a noticeable blemish. I'd rather that then getting a thin silver veneer surrounding nickel from some Romanian based company.

>>57265633
The post I quoted was an ad hominem.

>>57260139
>no cotton gloves
>no steel plated covered sandals.
ngmi

>>57265737

Why are there Jew shills here?

>>57265563
>>57265582

>>57262066
based and Pythagorean pilled

anyone wanna sell a crusader (non-guilded)

i like it because it has the word cum

26387961@proton.me

>>57265799
Aesthetic

>>57265290
Makes me want to paint/ink a Crusader
>captcha 0RK8N

If anyone remembers, a few weeks ago I posted I was trying to buy Gold Filled rings for under spot price of gold. I bought about 100 rings, for under a dollar each, from a large variety of sources, all claimed the rings were gold filled.
About 25% of them are actually gold filled and are stamped, about 10% have a Gold Plated stamp, and the rest have no stamp and can't be assumed to have any real gold in them.

Of the rings that showed up that are actually stamped as gold filled, after removing the stones the and weighing them they should have a few dollars of gold in them.

For the second round of purchases getting 100 more, but just from the sources that had real stamped rings in the first round.

>>57260944

>>57265349
This is their old currency, this bill was worth about 40¢-50¢. They issued new currencies a few times since then, their current money is worth a lot more than their old money.

>>57258145
Ultimate stack edition.

Gold eagle or buffalo?

>>57262665
based and back to your sense pilled

>>57266036
Eagles forever. Buffalos are ugly as shit.

>>57266036

I hate all Buffalos, Eagles are much nicer. They are often the cheapest silver so I have a few. Why would you want one in Gold? they're ugly. Dumb hairy cow.

>>57266036
1 of each, at least
Neither one is great compared to Mexican Libertads or Maple Leafs.

>>57266036
Hahaha get the Buffalo so that when u do go to spend it on something u can spend with a Buffalo instead of an eagle. This is why i stack silver buffalos and have a pair of gold ones somewhere in my desk

>>57266087
Nice German coaster

>>57266102
>Nice German coaster
I have too much silver, almost sold it today

>>57259869
I like it. I hope to get my first ounce of gold this year. I think I'm settled on a buffalo. Seems like the best bet.

Just a humble Benny Frank with today’s wages. Oh Lord, blessed are these metals.

>>57266087
How many Oz's in total is there?

>>57266036
If you are going to own an ounce of gold, I think you should own AGEs as they are US Mint currency. I think there is a case to be made that that could be relevant in the future. Overall I think it's better to own far more silver than gold.

>>57266036
I've found a guy who sells Pre-33 gold for wholesale pricing, so that's what I've been getting. So much more appealing than moderns.

>>57266277
checkin them dubs. pre-33 is next on my list.

>>57266036
eagle ofc. buffalo design is ugly, even if the color is nice.

>>57266213
~1,400 oz.

>>57266247
I love that every member of /pmg/ can range on the spectrum between silver and gold and we can still manage a healthy stream of threads minus our lovely condom collecting trolls.

>>57266247
>20 silver dollars to a gold twenty
Please remind me how much the gold twenty coins weighed, frens?>>57266277

>>57266036
Krugerrand for $13 under spot after 3.3% cashback from eBay

>>57266294
Congratulations on made it tier with just silver. That's multi-generational wealth right there.

>>57266307
You make a good point. However, my point still stands that if you want gold you might as well snuggle up to the US Mint and get an AGE rather than something generic.

>>57266247
>I think you should own AGEs as they are US Mint currency. I think there is a case to be made that that could be relevant in the future.
I like AGEs but I don't think muh currency official of gubbermint it matters

>>57266341
I agree, they're more recognized. I just have the buffaloes as the, "first to go from the stack" coins

My new favorite. Came in the mail today.
I wish I wasn’t shit at taking pictures, it just doesn’t do the piece justice.

>>57266388
>88
>octogon
Im going to check'm then write, 'thats based"
Check"m
Thats based

>>57266388
The fuck is that lol

>>57266395
AI hands

>>57266388
>>57266393

>>57266338
>Congratulations on made it tier with just silver.
Bro, silver is the same price it was at in 2008. I've made 0 gains, in the hole.

>>57266409
>ill post a stack
>hah hey guys i bought all of this
>at the high
>i wanna sell it now toodaloo
>that'll show them to stack hahaha got'm
Subtle b8 m8

>>57266395
>>57266407
How did they green light this?

>>57266407
ngl i hate this design

>>57266087
>>57266409
Fraudulent and shillery

>>57266430
>>57266440
:( I like it

suppose i were to go to a local mine and somehow managed to buy tungsten and lithium, how or to whom would i even be able to sell it? i could probably get good prices if these go up in the next years, even more so because im in the european market which lacks these resources and my country would be in a position to be a main supplier and i could probably increase my margins by carrying them to where they are needed (Germany and France)

>>57266444
Self check of truth. That poster is a shill

>>57266446
It's ok bro.

>>57266427
>>57266444
seething faggots arguing like women
I didn't say I'm selling my stack I just said I was thinking about selling a little bit of silver today

>>57266472
Lol

>>57266446
I don't judge you.

>>57266468
And yet I'm the biggest stacker here?
Relax faggots it's not against the rules to talk shit about the performance of silver.

>>57266446
I don't judge you

>>57266475
Just saying update the b8 m8, I'm a weaponized autist.

>>57266492
>I'm a weaponized autist.
you're an idiot barking up the wrong tree

>>57266409
>the paper silver scheme will never be found out

That said, no matter how much you enjoy the coin, if you ever meet the model IRL refuse handjobs from her at ANY cost.

>>57266490
>>57266482
:,(
Well here’s the rest of the order.

>>57266511
I have more silver and gold than all of you.
Stop acting like teenage girls when someone wants to question why silver stays stagnant no matter what happens in the world.

>>57266485
>yet I'm the biggest stacker here?
Not even close

>>57266523
>when someone wants to question why silver stays stagnant no matter what happens in the world.
>questions
I was explaining how it's value will go up >>57266511

>>57266540
>I was explaining how it's value will go up
you weren't

you're new here, aren't you?

explain with details (not woman logic catering to emotions) how the manipulation is going to end any time soon?

>>57266527
>57266561
I've never even posted my full stack here so you wouldn't know, Satanist

Played out b8 before he turns into IQDELET all night again

>>57266575
why can't you just talk about the shitty performance of silver without having an aneurysm and accusing me of being jewish or some random boogeyman ID you saw on here over a year ago?

>>57266518
Hey stop guilt tripping me, i feel like shit afterward. And on a more pragmatic standpoint, Germania coins always do fine on the secondary market, so even if one day the honeymoon is over you'll be in the green once you sell it back.

>>57266601
It’s okay fren. It’s all fun and games.

>>57263067
start a chat with an agent to have the issue escalated. I had the same issue yesterday when I flagged this 1oz "5" dollar weirdly shaped liz head massively spaced radial lined golden bar, I mean coin. Got a response that it did not violate ebay policy (even though its a clear counterfeit). I started a chat and was able to provide more information to the agent. The agent said it would be 2 days before any action would be taken. The ad was promptly taken down an hour or so later. They haven't banned the seller though, so even if you get the ad removed, the seller could repost.

>>57266608
BItch, You think stacking is a game? I'll have you know I have been at it all day looking for a wholesale dealer to bu silver at spot; and boy lemme tell you, this shit aint a fucking game. I even started to call the hasidic district and was able to haggle down to 10% above spot before I got hung up on for not asking enough wholesale. The fuckers wanted basically a half a tonne purchase from me. They wanted me to risk 35k on their asses during a bear market, Fuck that. Then I got another dealer telling me that silver is silver and the brand of bar doesn't matter. So I say 'If that is the case, I would like 2 kilo's of APMEX in general rounds. All of a sudden brand started to matter again. sheeeeiiiiit. This is fun but it aint no game.
>anyone know of wholesale dealers not wanting the price of a new car to do business?

>>57266575
nigger poorfag

>>57266653
>2 kilos (64.3toz) of silver
>wholesale prices
I hope you’re joking. Maybe 20 kilos, then you might be looking at wholesale prices.

>>57266388
>>57266407
Ah yes, more sa*anic filth, Im not even religious but they're just getting blatant with this shit now.

>>57258145
How we doing tonight, copper kings?

>>57259869
>>57266192
Everyone has an M&P except me.

>>57266854
Getchu one.

are stackable bars a meme? assuming i get them at or near spot

>>57266885
they be bars
they stack
whats not to like

>>57266341
The US mint has issued gold buffs since 2006.

>>57266641
>when I flagged this 1oz "5" dollar
FAKE NEWS
It's a DDLLAR, Chuddy boy! You just are racist and hate it when honest chinese & indian entrepreneurs make a living doing honest work.

>>57266653
>I even started to call the hasidic district
*pop* henlo, can i help you?

>>57266885
I like 'em

>>57266885
Can't be a meme if they're close to spot.

>>57266920
>Webm
I heard about this the other day. Plays out like a parody, I can't believe it's real.

>>57266885
Every stack that’s posted with so much silver it fills up the screen has a corner somewhere that’s purely stacker bars. I think at some point they went “fuck it, next 300 oz are purely stackers” and got after it.

>>57266641
nice work

>>57266653
I wouldn't trust thejm ews if i were you.

>>57266641
Based justice deliverer

>>57266845
Doin' great.
First snow of the season tonight. Getting a dusting.

>>57266900
>>57267017
>>57267032
close up

>>57267048
It looks like monopoly coinage

>>57267048
>5 DDLLARS
wot?

>>57267048
Doesnt even look like the silver one either
Probably some jnews or ch!nks selling it

>>57266973
>Plays out like a parody
First time i've seen it i kekked out loud for 5 minutes straight. I couldn't dream of any better material for memetic warfare, it's pure gold.

>>57258145
Really want to get a tube of brittanias but not sure if it’s really a great idea

>>57266574
>I've never even posted my full stack here so you wouldn't know, Satanist
If you're lassen then yes, you're the biggest stacker here

>>57267434
Why a whole tube?

>>57267465
Because a whole tube is more satisfying plus I dont own a full tube of any coins

>>57267474
I would think a tube of whatever is native to your home country might be a relatively safe move. Someone here recently complained nobody wanted to buy his foreign coins.

What art style is this on the face of this stamp? Ive saw the same style on a coin one time but i forgot what kind of coin it was.

>>57266277
So uhh ..whos your whole seller?

>>57267506
True silver eagles are safer for where I live. but I would like some brittanias as I like the design. I geuss I’ll probably just pick 5-10 brittanias so as to not break the bank on them

>>57267506
>Someone here recently complained nobody wanted to buy his foreign coins.

Interesting. Depends what it was I guess. Someone here recently complained nobody wanted to buy his foreign coins.

I’ve had no problems here (Australia) selling Brits and Maples (which I mostly stack as far as foreign, designs are way better then shitty Red Kangaroo)

>>57267819
> Interesting. Depends what it was I guess. Someone here recently complained nobody wanted to buy his foreign coins.

Derp. I’m pissed and can’t compute correctly

Just got my 7 Deadly Sins: Wrath by Phelimint

Fucking love it. Shipping to AU sucks though

Can’t wait to collect the rest of the series

>>57266388
I got her in the higher detail with gold version. Crazy expensive, but I love it. Wish it was 2oz instead to really appreciate the art more.

>>57267943
Forgot pic. The UHR would have been nice if it kept this paint scheme, but from the videos she's really sticking out from the coin convincingly. I think I'll just get hosed on the Valkyries and Witches in this format from now on, I love them.

>>57267955
Beautiful find, anon. I don’t think I have a single Germania ounce and desperately need to fix that. Is it a limited minting like libertads that cause such high premiums?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d09lPIJUDAo&ab_channel=AmyAdams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1H3S7jPdEE&ab_channel=MorVaza

crypto meme wizard coin with privacy utility and milion X burnable system

https://youtu.be/UbQgXeY_zi4?si=hsPs_yfTg939zwUT

>>57268097
https://youtu.be/O_3_-UrhZH0?si=FQSnS700HqNfzPPR

https://youtu.be/E2Fy1eo8Hmo?si=04ycK1MFHmMJM1Mu

https://youtu.be/44Uo0OUqDMk?si=mKObiIYP8IIujpME

https://youtu.be/C-CG5w4YwOI?si=Og-QwnvStxypo-nu

Your freedom of speech is about to be gone.
Laugh and joke about it but we are nearing the end.
Use what little you have left.
It wont be the same in one years time.

>>57268161
Do you feel it, too? There’s this dread that is filling my world and it’s only getting worse. I’m scared. I just wanted to live simply and now I have to die in a firefight against the government.

>>57268161

>>57268255
These are patent numbers btw

>>57268232
I've been unable to post here all day. We're being moderated more strictly and flooded. This is no longer any respectable channel of communication.
If any of us want to live up to the image of ourselves. If there is any disruption in our ability to communicate. We have to take it Live!!!!!!!!!

>>57268255
We are no longer dealing with people. The people that won't believe in what is happening right before their eyes are completely lost.
They will soon become our enemies even though they might have been our friends a moment before.
The time of further separation and division is coming.
They aren't worthy of seeing any truth, it's been presented to them over and over, and yet many of them still persist. It wont be tomorrow, and that's as far as many of their addled brains will go.
When they see the truth it will be a facsimile, they will never see anything because they can't. I can't help but appear sanctimonious when discussing lower life forms, and they will resent me for that.
Many of us did our best to save them, stick to yourselves, we will know each other.
It's impossible to prevent every sling and arrow that would get thrown my way for saying something so offensive about the majority of people. And so I can't. I can say that when you see a consensus of any kind being formed that you immediately call it into question. Many of you have been trained to discount arguments with one-liner adhomes, that is not a machismo aspect of your personality, its been bred into you. Those like you are prone to manipulation. It isn't a bulwark against tyranny. It's a bulwark against free thought. You have been betrayed, by your own propensity to protect tradition by adopting a weakened ideology that breeds consensus rather than thought. You have it in you to break free, but you have been poisoned.
Those that cannot read and understand complete context or complex feeling reply with a one liner as a defense mechanism, because they've shit and piss all over this website. And saying anything to them is a slight. I don't really care to reach those that reply. If YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW. We will have to rally around each other.

The plebians will wax poetically about those who wax poetic, will feign disinterest toward those who show interest in a cause. It's there inability to engage in a cause at any complex level that causes them to lash out against those that take any other approach than that simple approach to a topic that they take.

Any discussion of higher level reasoning is discounted as schizo, its an adhominen to dismiss their ability to reason. anything unusual or unorthodox is foreign to them, because they are trained to combat disagreement in the way that they are trained. Sure, Loquacious some may be, but those themselves have already settled into their line of thinking and defend it from a fortress of their own making, any knowledge they gained, the are not freewheeling or wheeling to adapt.
Again, I think of the detractors, They will say, why are you so verbose, why are you not like us, to so easily discount an idea in so few words, as we are.
I can't speak to your level. Even I pretend when I do so. And only hope to scrape the top of those of you out there, who are capable.
I seem pretentious saying this, but years of experience and being open and seeing things repeated over and over, and to the uninitiated this also seems like a repetition because they see and do not see, hear and do not hear. !

They will say, you are not in the right place to discuss these things.
Oh how dare you speak out of place. We are conducting very important business matters here!
You are not, and have not. You are following the steps laid before you and you are so patient and obedient in doing so you hate anyone who would disrupt you in your hypnotism.
Why would one man come here and say these things, unless his soul was screaming it out loud, and by what authority would he claim over any other man, that his words should be taken as more serious than any other.
I claim seriousness, but in an open forum you are allowed to mislead the easily mislead with short, abrupt, and crude comments, to lead the short abrupt and crude people which populate the majority of this board, this general, and this planet. It is no harm to my ego that you call me crazy or insane, but it is a harm to your ego that I dare speak or intrude in your crude space. I've been shit on before, who would have so much to say, except for someone completely insane, why would they not merely repeat the message of the group. YOU ARE NOT ONE OF US.
It's that I don't like. It's not the disagreeing, I disagree every day. We all do. It's the denouncing of anyone that disagrees with you. I know that some of you have it in you to break that spell. If you don't, I do not care. If you do. and genuinely. I have found a friend. And have found a few friends here in my time. And I see the insanity, in each of us. But it is not.

Like many of my kind, the outpouring can continue as long as we are willing, It's like the people of old that would go away and come back and flap their tongues, and people would interpret that as they would. And so even on the internet it is so, you sit and you are to ponder, the uninterruptible content of our unstoppable ponderance. Perhaps in the end you are the true judge of what it is that I speak. the quorum the majority, it flows out of me not effortlessly but unrelenting. and I do feel that time is coming to an end. It won't be from me or the others like me here that you hear this message, we will be silenced and thrown away, you aren't expected to believe me whole sale but I would expect you to hear me and to consider. If it does sound like nonsense of course I believe you are stupid. Which you are, and would be, if you listened and disagreed I wouldn't take any offense.
My Dear Audience, as I dare to entertain you, to provoke your mind with uncomfortable feelings, to prod at your ego as it clashes against mine, take what you can from my words, rallying against me won't do anything. I'm unrelenting. I might meet my unrelenting match. If I'm not doing anything, then I am being an open book. And it can be disturbing to peer into a book, which often conceals with a forward, and a cover, and hides its content among headers, and sub headers and chapters and so on.

The great thing about a book is that you cannot respond, or ask questions. I know that in the modern day, it seems like a tyranny that just anyone with their stupid thought or opinion for the sake can interrupt and by right they should be able to interrupt anyone because they presume the same right to speak as the orator and presume to have at least the same value as the orator, but they often don't.
I know that I'm someone in the middle of the street, to you a person in a forum about "precious metals", but it is merely a quiet street corner of the internet where I can speak. I can often do so uninterrupted, and I can have my small, and mostly silent audience. It's a great gift to be able to have that, when everyone, even the very stupid suppose that they should also have word, and often repeat. Thank you, good night.

>>57264630
nice

Spot deal
>Spot deal
Spot deal
>Spot deal
Spot deal
>Spot deal
Spot deal
>Spot deal
Spot deal
>Spot deal
Spot deal
>Spot deal
10oz at spot at SGB
https://silvergoldbull.com/10-oz-silver-gold-bull-silver-bar-at-spot-price
That is all.

>>57265912
I was looking forward to an update. Nice! Got any pictures of the gold filled rings?

>>57266854
Yep.

>>57267533
Grab a tube of the fractional Brits if you're tight on cash. You still get Brits and they're in a full, factory tube.

>>57269430

>>57269522
Another just for you

>>57266247
You seem unaware that both coins have a $50 face value.

>>57268062
nice morning song

>>57267955
these are great. i didn't realize bold already had them. might have to place an order today

>>57269845
Hot damn. You are right

>>57267022
>>57267039
>>57268505
This ass wipe needs banned. Non-stop spamming with off topic bullshit and demonic memes that don’t make any sense.

>>57269980
You can report each of his posts for off topic or racism. I encourage you and others to do so.

What's up with commodities? Why is everything moonin'?

>>57269980
I thought the grabbler gloves was pretty good. But you are right, they're pretty tacky and give PMG a conspiracy vibe.

>>57270076
They’re AI generated memes trying to push political topics here. They aren’t even real stacking tiers it’s just nonsense aligned like a stacking tier meme.

>>57270104
>They’re AI generated memes trying to push political topics here
You are even more of a schitzo than the actual schitzo posting them nonstop.

does anyone know about these? i want one

https://www.ma-shops.com/npoland/item.php?id=1158

>>57270131
Unless you can point out where I’m wrong then I’d say you’re part of this shill effort to derail /pmg/ threads.

>>57270152
>Unless you can point out where I’m wrong then
What part of a single sentence i'm supposed to point out?
AI generated memes aren't a thing. It's clearly done on paint with minimal skills involved. It's simply a guy with clearly too much time on his hands.
It's kinda spoopy you aren't able to recognize human made cringe from AI generated cringe...

there are some nice coins for auction tonight on stacksbowers. hoping to get at least one.

>>57270245
Ok so you’re getting your panties in a twist about how those memes were created, but do those memes actually offer any useful info?
Are they stacking tier memes or are they just a bunch of nonsense cobbled together like I said?
Put on your critical thinking hat bud.

And you’re probably wrong

>>57270152
This is something I have noticed. Any general that is inconvenient will be thwarted not through logical fud/arguments. They do it by spamming nonsense and making the overarching discussion incoherent and full of noise. They can basically make the place an uninviting place to stick around. Even places like /gme/ I just skim right over 90% of the replies until I find possibly a link to a twitter post or a DD or something.

>>57270291
We weren't arguing about the quality here. Of course it's nonsense, and yes it's annoying to see them posted here and /pol/ on a daily basis. And yes it's counterproductive, albeit innoffensive, if as i believe this anon is a legit stackerbro who loves silber.
We can all agree on that i think.

But to claim it's generated by complex machines with an underlying political agenda?
To achieve what exactly?
Comon' fren, it's you who should lay down the aluminum hat for a minute.

>>57267506
> Someone here recently complained nobody wanted to buy his foreign coins.
Never have to worry about that if you never sell :)

>>57270546
Plus it's bullshit to begin with, all gubment .999 are liquid anywhere in the world.
Beside maybe the kangoos, because they are so incredibly ugly i doubt anyone would want them, not even the aussies.

>>57266885
If near spot what does it matter?

Only meme coins do i not care about spot.
I like bars more than coins personally but they tend be a higher mark up

>>57267530
Mountain_Mud3769 on plebbit. His stuff sells really fast after posting, but for example I got a BU $10 Liberty for $1000 and a Saint Gauden double eagle for $1950 a few weeks back.

Those items used to be like $100-200 over spot a year or two ago, especially during the "silver squeeze", but people are clearly running out of funds so it has become a buyers' market lately.

viking cat might be better than rifle cat

>>57270428
What the fuck dude I just told you to stop getting hung up on how the memes were created.

Are they off topic? Yes.
Do they provide any entertainment or useful info? No.
Does it really matter how they were created if the intent is the same? No.

Stop supporting shills retard.

>>57270888
wow you need to calm down dude, i'm not your enemy, chill out.

>>57270911
>i'm not your enemy, chill out.
That’s what I’ve been trying to say to you this whole time bud. I’m trying to keep things on topic and calling out the shills. You’re attacking the wrong person.

>>57270888

>>57270926
>he thinks he knows what moving the goalposts means
But my point of debate never changed? You’re an idiot go back to school.

>>57270911
by the way when you tell someone you’re debating with to calm down you’re just flying the white flag. It’s a passive aggressive ad hominem. Focusing on emotions rather than facts is womanly and faggy.

>>57270947
AI post

>>57269866
glad i checked the song while i could. imagine being that bothered by that

>>57270975
Didn't know we were debating.
You came out of nowhere while claiming there was an AI generated meme conspiracy going on here and i called you out your bullshit. Then your neo-vagoo busted down and you started to move the goalpost and REEEE at me.

bought the last 100. now distribution next month

>>57271056
Jesus you’re either a tranny or a woman. I’ve never talked to full grown man who whines about emotions like this instead of focusing on the facts.

If someone is posting off topic bullshit they should be banned. Period. If you continue to argue with me you’re part of the problem.

>>57271103
You argue like a kike
Badbye

New thread:
>>57271128
>>57271128
>>57271128

>>57271140
>says the shill supporting derailment posts and memes
Yikes

>>57266641
I tried that, twice in fact and got connected to a "sar please do not redeem". Said they'd look into it and the item is still up for bid. I don't care that people are selling fakes, but people are getting scammed because they think they're getting a real sovereign. Guy even admits it's a replica in the description, but of course the title doesn't say anything because he wants people to bid on it. I only noticed because he bid on some of my coins and I looked at his feedback and all he does is sell fake coins.

Then again, if you don't read the full description maybe you deserve to get scammed?

Managed to sell my coins at least after pruning my collection. Paid just under £800 for them so even after fees its a nice little profit. Wondering if I should sell all the coins in my collection that I massively over-paid for.

>>57271103
>If you continue to argue with me you’re part of the problem.
Topkek, nice display of current authoritarian politics.

>who whines about emotions like this instead of focusing on the facts.
But, my dear blackest gorilla nigger, i've done nothing but that.

FACT :
you claimed there was a shill/bot spamming AI generated memes here
>>57270104

FACT :
I explained to you it was nonsense and such things do not exist, it's just the resident schitzo who date back from /SETF/ days
>>57270131
>>57270428

FACT :
You then pretended it was never about AI generated meme but we should only focus on le reason behind le shilling conspiracy on /pmg/
>>57270888
>>57270923
>>57270975

And now anyone trying to argue against your retarded ass is part of the conspiracy. From minute one i presented nothing but facts while (you) are the one going full emotional, then accuse me of your vaginal deeds.
You are a cretin and a lunatic.

>>57259986
>achilles' shield rendered in base silver
may you get drunk and fall off a roof

>>57271246
>Came here to say that.
Wow - no wonder you're lonely.
Well, here's your attention.