/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57224887
>November consumer credit +$27.75 billion m/m vs. +$9 billion est. & +$5.78 billion in prior month …revolving credit +$19.1 billion; nonrevolving +$4.6 billion
Debtmaxxing meme is now mainstream

>>57224946
>PURE.
>UNDILUTED.
>GDP.
that's another Biden win

Booba

Lets talk about bitcoin

>>57224973
disgusting

what a nice day

>>57224973
Please stop.
Smg is clearly and traditionally a feet thread.

>UNG up 3%
>BOIL down .3%
I literally don't understand

>>57224975
reported

>>57224993
/smg/ is a 2d general. the 2d posters generally have a higher YTD return.

still climbing lol

So now that we’re well above the gamma flip line already I guess buy calls?

is this the shittest /smg/ yet?

Even BABA is about to turn green.

>>57225089
yes, it's never been so bad

Come on...
POWER HALF HOUR
I NEED IT

>>57225089
yes until the next one

>global stocks up over 1% today

>>57225100
What a relief.

let’s gooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt84J7U75e0

>>57224973
Kind of like my sister's.

>>57224973
Kek baggie aint gonna like this

Tried to reproduce that image from the previous thread. Doesn't seem to be exact but seems close enough. I got the P/E ratios from https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-pe-ratio/table/by-month and the dots are monthly going through December 2003

later fellas

is there any way to avoid taxes when switching positions? i.e. say I have NVDA with 10k profit, but I want to move all that money to MSFT. Will I be forced to pay income tax on the 10k profit or can I just sell and rebuy?

>>57225212
That's literally capital gains tax. Sorry, anon.

And welcome to the Republican party.

>>57225212
just lose $10k elsewhere... or just dont file or pay, the fuck timmy gon' do?

>>57225226
Or just be me, small scale investor where buying and selling for repositioned doesn't even amount to 1k so it's tax free kek

>>57225212
>is there any way to avoid taxes

classic /smg/

>>57225221
Ah capital gains, not income. Thanks.

anyway what a fucking ripoff. You should be taxed when taking money out of the broker or something like that, not on every movement. Don't get me started on sales tax too.

>>57225212
>Print Fidelity tax report
>Hand it to the tax janny
EZ

>>57225003
Careful bro. Announcing reports is an offense.

But back on topic, bitcoin is up 8% today. Most of that pump happened this afternoon, vaguely correlating to this massive SPY/QQQ pump. Interestingly, yields are fairly steady and DXY is flat, indicating that today's move is not like the bull run of the past 2 months. This is an unusual pump. Seems like the bitcoin ETF hype/rumors is driving the stock market, which is something I'd personally not bet on as a source of sustainable gains. Seems like a selling opportunity.

>>57225212
lmao

>>57225239
if its less than 1k you still owe capital gains tax on it. there isnt a lower limit for capital gains.
>>57225212
open a roth ira or traditional roth. otherwise its always taxed as ordinary income if short term.

Soon

>>57225194
>no company made after the 80s is worth af.

Nice.

>>57224887
she baked!

>>57225194
given that the 2020s isn’t over yet, it seems pretty obvious that the blue dots on this chart are going to be moving down in the years to come.

>>57225288
Tomorrow mildly

>>57225212
If you're longing NVDA with stocks, buy an ITM put and sell an ITM call. Now your profits are locked in.

>>57225212
this is why i do everything in my roth ira. right now income only allows me about 5k per year to invest so i figure i can just do everything in a tax advantaged account until i can make the ira and have extra money to invest in a taxable. taxes aren't a bad problem to have anon, open a tax account, and move your gains tax in there for the end of the year.

Hello, I am George, a retired welder from Wyoming.
My internet isn’t working. I have tried restarting my modem, but I keep getting the message: The DNS server might not be available.
There’s no Wi-Fi on my phone either. I am writing this from my wife’s phone, she has mobile data.
Can anyone help me please

>>57224887
How'd everyone's day go?

>>57225265
>there isnt a lower limit for capital gains.
There is in my country anon and it's 1k

>>57225212
sorry anon, welcome to the real world

>>57225350
ohh non burger.
>>57225331
you can only afford the 5k you are saying? because i thought limit was 6500. you can def sneak some more in there then.

https://stocktwits.com/Retire_By_2025
lol

>>57225341
Who produced your router?

Splitting migraine today. This is awful. No trades although it appears i was correct to sit out the short from last week. Time to take more tylenol.

>>57225331
>open a tax account
What's a tax account?
t. europoor
(over here they take everything upfront)

>>57225212
Were you planning to make any charitable donations this year? And if so, do you itemize your taxes such that you would get a deduction for your charitable donations?
If yes to both, there's some things you can do. Otherwise...

>>57225390
>What's a tax account?
Riester/rürup Rente
It's burgers thinking they'll be able to pull the money out of their Roth IRAs kek

>>57225378
>https://stocktwits.com/Retire_By_2025

Just bought puts.

>>57225402
>It's burgers thinking they'll be able to pull the money out of their Roth IRAs kek
Ich lache.

Dragon's Dogma 2 will put AMD and NVDA's money where their mouths are.

>>57225367
right im working on increasing my income but right now i can only invest about 5k per year which is below the roth ira limit so ive been doing everything in an ira. that is what is great about them like on your play selling the nividia, and putting it into microsoft would be as simple as that. no taxes to worry about, unless of course you were to withdrawal the gains before 59 1/2 then you would owe gains tax AND a 10% penalty. that is the disadvantage of them basically the money is locked away until 59 1/2.

my goal is to increase my income to where i can max the roth 6500 and have extra money to invest in a taxable account. gains aren't a bad problem, and taxes aren't a bad problem. i would rather pay taxes and have gains than not.

my advice would be have some sort of HYSA or something like that and move the tax percentage from your gain into there so at the end of the year it's ready to go to the IRS. paying taxes is infinitely better than not and ending up getting fucked by the government.

>>57225390
Americans can open roth ira's, $7000 in 2024, that allow them to make tax free profits on what they invest in. Same with a health savings account if we have a high deductible insurance plan, $4150

The best part is both spouses get a roth ira so a man raising a family can put away $23,000 a year and all profits are tax free

>>57225025
>still climbing lol
still climbing lol

>>57225378
holy mother of all schizos

>>57225194
2000s is the effect of IRA and stocks becoming de facto pension system for the US. Literally all of US stock outperformance over the rest of the world is explained by multiple expansion, not productivity or profitability. It's all just a flow ponzi.

Question is what will happen when the flows slow down or even worse when there are more net withdrawers than net depositors.

>>57225432
but can you trade in these accounts or is it just a scheme to pump ETFs through dca passive investing?

>>57225387
weird coincidence i had a bad headache yesterday.
>>57225431
>disadvantage of them basically the money is locked away until 59 1/2.
agreed. lot of FIRE types say to max out 401k. really bad idea imo. locked away all your wealth until a boomer dying of heart failure. i dont know if you know but you can contribute to previous years roth until april of the next year.

>>57225456
You can trade in anything you want. Even options. A lot of people like to go in on REIT's like Realty Income for easy real estate income
>>57225469
My 401k sucks cock so i just get my match. everything else goes into my tax advantage after my roth ira and hsa are maxed

Ding ding ding! How did it go today anon?

>>57225483
>My 401k sucks cock so i just get my match. everything else goes into my tax advantage after my roth ira and hsa are maxed
right move.

>>57225499
+$299.33
+1.21%

Wew

Those are the days that let you know this isn't a real market

>>57225499
your computer is early. market just rang bell now.

3.55%, about 2k gain.

>>57225499
>Ding ding ding! How did it go today anon
+300 bucks or +3 something percent
Literally the best day of my trading history after the worst day last week

>>57225499
Checked and quite good
+2.19%

>>57225331
Roth IRAs are great for day trading.
Ironically if you're actually saving passively for retirement as intended, they don't actually add much value. In fact, the flexibility of a buy and hold SPY/VOO position in a taxable account is probably worth more than the 15% tax savings a roth will offer that only kicks in past 60 years old.

>>57225469
yep. i just wish they would change the rules on them and have it to where you can go all the way back to when you legally become an adult and make up for previous years, since people usually are not financially responsible in their early 20s or dont have the income at that time to max their ira. as you get older your income increases and i think you should be able to make up for missed contributions on previous years. oh well it is what it is.

the money being locked in their until 59 1/2 does suck and i battled with the idea of taxable vs a roth for a long time before investing. i ended up deciding that it would be a motivator to increase my income to where the 6500 is only a minor part of my yearly investments and then i can do some more short/mid term type plays in a taxable. also at the end of the day if you stay the course of investing and dont max contribute to your ira and do reach that age, in good health, you would probably really end up beating yourself up over all the money you could have saved in taxes. that was another motivator for me.

I considered buying today. But decided against it

>>57225499
+.95% i still have a lot of money I'm rebalancing into indexes

>>57225537
>i ended up deciding that it would be a motivator to increase my income to where the 6500 is only a minor part of my yearly investments and then i can do some more
based. ygmi.

>>57225483
>You can trade in anything you want. Even options. A lot of people like to go in on REIT's like Realty Income for easy real estate income
Two more questions.
Can you trade on margin?
Can you do covered calls?

Will MSTR crash when BTC ETF is approved?

I want to YOLO all in on a leveraged BTC play, and I think this is less insane than buying say, MARA or something. Buying just BTC, you ain't getting rich on that shit anymore unless you have a million at least already invested.

The question is, is the premium too high? Will the % of people that is holding MSTR for the lack of an spot ETF dump and cause the stock price to lower? It's already struggling to keep $600 as BTC pumps. And everything just looks so fucking frontrunned. Look at ROI from miners and MSTR last year.

I am going all in with 360k and hoping to 3x this, that would be enough in my country, then I will go into a diversified ETF that pays dividends. I will keep reinvesting the dividends to grow my main bag.

>>57225561
How is she going to pay for that pizza she ate?

>>57225499
+6.01%, still down 2k from beginning of year though

>>57225456
You can day trade and long/short options. You just can't short stocks or do anything on margin.

I told u bhenchodes to short RXRX and it's not working out rn but it will get better in a few months. Ouch. Fuck this company

>>57225499
-0.18%

>>57225585
>>57225567
ty

>>57225363
why is she crying though

>Biden administration to unveil contractor rule set to upend gig economy
>The U.S. Department of Labor rule, which was first proposed in 2022 and is likely to face legal challenges, will require that workers be considered employees entitled to more benefits and legal protections than contractors when they are "economically dependent" on a company.
SHORT UBER AND DASH

>>57225499
Pretty good. Even higher than my previous post: >>57224982

>>57225614
taxes

>>57225341
Go to the tech board /mlp/ (Mac, Linux, PC) They should be able to help you out.

>>57225577
she will have to think of a way.

>>57225619
>Just as everyone is getting laid of from tech torpedo the gig apps they could use to scrape buy temporarily
Nice. They really are at war with the middle class.

>>57225539
My vibrating wizard's staff said wait and see.

>>57225625
Juicy account size you got. Cant wait until im that bulky.

>>57225658
>Just as everyone is getting laid of from tech
Anon, your news is like 9 months out of date kek. Barely anybody is getting laid off, in fact tech layoffs are at an all time low since the peak

>>57225683
>>57225658
artists and other "creatives" are getting laid off. Hasbro fired like 3000 and duolingo fired most of their translators.

>>57225469
>weird coincidence i had a bad headache yesterday.
It's the stupid wind causing stupid weather shifts and also the polar vortex is supposed to creep south later this week and produce fuck off fuck you cold weather. There will be no bikini snowboarding until further notice.

>>57225683
"tech" got laid off while tech jobs are fine
my company can't hire enough middle/back end software engineers

>>57225697
nah i know mine was dehydration. i flew the day before and it was hot in my room all night.

Where's the anon who said we'd be retarded to not short TSLA last night? Also JD $30 by Friday. Book it.

my only position had a juicy day today. was nice after the 10% haircut my porto took last week.

>>57225010
My portfolio is so flat it's unreal

NVDA had a good day

Gaps are scary

https://ra.co/news/80033
soundcloud is on sale
how can I profit from this?

I am really starting to believe BTC is going to 100,000. I genuinely have more faith in it than boomer stocks.

>>57225764
>1 billion dollars
Insanely overpriced, but props to them if they pull it off kek

>>57225796
My "boomer stock" had better gains today than bitcoin

>>57225723
get some tech for growth. hope you arent all in on oil.

>>57225212
this is why I park my money and investments in Singapore where there is no capital gains tax

>>57225758
Gaps, credit crunches, business cycles, reverse repo transactions Chinese real estate bubble, deflation spirals, quantitative easing, Keynesian liquidity traps.
How does one navigate all the these pitfalls in the market?

>>57225799
debt is still too cheap and has become comparatively cheaper lately, so don't be surprised

Man I am so tempted to run a couple put credit spreads on WBD before earnings but I need to do more DD

buy UPRO

20000 Bitfarms shares, up 180%. Why the fuck am I not selling..

Thinking about selling put credit spreads on bac

>>57225818
Anon SoundCloud is a euro company
From my city actually

>>57225830
and that changes what exactly?

>>57225841
>and that changes what exactly?
You'll have to buy those sweet euros first

>>57225810
>some random ticker with 4-5 letters

no thanks. 177% 1 year chart on BTC tho... imagine boomer stocks bragging.

>futures

NVDA going up that much that fast makes me feel like shit about being a divi stock holder.

>>57225855
>The deal is currently being handled by US merchant bank The Raine Group and Singaporean state investment fund Temasek Holdings, which both invested in SoundCloud in 2017. According to Sky News, the two companies have started interviewing investment banks about a prospective sale later this year. SoundCloud is expected to fetch in excess of $1 billion.
euros...
sure...

>>57225880
slow n steady

If btc etf is approved will /smg/ buy it?

>>57225883
Anon, you literally can't buy a German company with dollars lmfao. Maybe read up first before spouting bullshit

He sold?

>>57225537
>the money being locked in their until 59 1/2 does suck and i battled with the idea of taxable vs a roth for a long time before investing
>at the end of the day if you stay the course of investing and dont max contribute to your ira and do reach that age you would probably really end up beating yourself up over all the money you could have saved in taxes. that was another motivator for me
Have you actually done the math?

VOO pays a 1.5% dividend. Assuming that stays steady, over 30 years you would pay 1.5% x 15% = 0.23% of asset value as taxes per year.
If you're poor, those dividends may be tax free. If you're rich enough to hit 20%, this topic is probably irrelevant to your longterm wealth. If you live somewhere with a state income tax, the cumulative tax impact is a bit worse.

So, adding the ETF management fee, the total NAV drag is around 0.25%. Over a 30-40 year stretch, this will compound to a 7-8% drag relative to the index. Then there's the taxable gains as you draw down on your position in the index. This would be again 15% tax on all unrealized gains. Over long time horizons, stock indexed tend to multiply to the point where most of the position is unrealized gain. A cost basic from 30 years ago is nothing compared to today. At 8% annualized nominal gain, you're up 10x over 30 years, meaning 90% is unrealized gains or a weighted 13.5% cost to sell.
Over the entire period, the cost is ~20-25% slippage relative to the pure tax-free performance of the index.

On the other hand, there's the risks of a forced sell down of Roth IRA holdings to fund some emergency expense. In this case, you pay taxes on all gains at short term income rates plus a 10% penalty. Lets say you stick to the 24% tax bracket. Total tax impact is 34%, more than the maximum long-term tax impact of the basic post-tax account buy and hold strategy.
You can weigh these risks yourself and decide whether a Roth IRA is worth it to you. If you trade regularly, the math's different.

>>57225908
if there was a big dip, sure. already own bito but would prefer to own something that tracks spot

>>57225922
>Pump eet.

>>57225816
do you need to be a Sinagpore citizen for that? surely it can't be that easy

>>57225929
will bito covert over to an etf? I think gbtc said it would.

I just got back from one of the other colored boards... and YOU WON'T BELIEVE the things I've seen them posting about the stock market!

>>57225994
Sinagpore resident. Malaysia also doesn't levy a tax on money made outside of the country.

>>57225758
What gap

any ACTHF chads here?

Did you find any loose bolts today?

will $BA loose bolts continue to fall tomorrow or can the CEO meeting save it

>>57225679
Thanks. Literally 96% of my money is in fidelity. And of that 90% in stocks, 10% in 401k. WAGMI bro.

So McDonald's has decided to go out of business.
Weird.

>>57225535
>Roth IRAs are great for day trading.
>Ironically if you're actually saving passively for retirement as intended, they don't actually add much value. In fact, the flexibility of a buy and hold SPY/VOO position in a taxable account is probably worth more than the 15% tax savings a roth will offer that only kicks in past 60 years old.

agreed. I only use a taxable brokerage account. I want to be able to take out my money any time I want. Of course, I also make too much money to qualify for tax advantaged accounts, so the US gov already made the choice for me :/

>>57225425
WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS

>>57226136
The income cap for Roth contributions is a limiting factor, but I didn't really talk about backdoors. Also didn't account for net investment tax. I'm sure there are other things I missed as well.
The point is that there are tradeoffs. Nothing is really as clear cut as it appears at first. With the exception of 529s.Those are pretty much always dogshit.

>>57226106
Huh?

>>57226136
I was under the impression you could withdraw the principle in a ROTH account penalty/tax free.

>>57226195
Why doesn't Mc Donald's own gas stations? Imagine you fill up your tank and get some goyslop.

>>57226212
I wonder if they allow franchees to do that. Along highways, it's pretty common to see MCD and gas stations at the same rest stop, but idk what the business arrangement there is.

>>57226230
>it's pretty common to see MCD and gas stations at the same rest stop
Yeah by MCD doesn't own the gas stations. Everyone that's stopping for MCD can fill up their gas, and everyone stopping for gas can get some sloppa.

Do you guys think long banks now would be good? Rates are comming down a bit and people are paying fees for not paying debt in time etc.

Another day of green. Another day of getting paid to do "nothing". Bagged more VZ during the morning dip. Turns out aside from the fact it gained later tomorrow is ex-div day. Yay! More divvy is never a bad thing. Also in a bit over a month (2/15) KO announces the 62nd divvy hike. So more divvy from that to.

>>57225939
Pic three you're most sad about, /smg/.

For me it's
>Ayy lmao waifu
>The boys girl
>The Witcher girl
I forgot all their names desu

>>57226196
yep you can withdrawal your contributions at any time tax free, since technically it is all supposed to be earned income that you already pay income tax on. you can also withdrawal gains, penalty free if it is used for a downpayment on a house, and a few other major life expenses.

>>57226297
Yeah and you can make withdrawls for emergencies penalty free as well (supposedly.) I'm still a fan and quite frankly even if it didn't work out so well I absolutely hate any money going to the federal government for any reason, I'd pay extra to keep my money away from them.

>>57224994
>What are commodity futures
>What are February Contracts
>What are March Contracts

Read their prospectus and look at their holdings:

https://www.proshares.com/our-etfs/leveraged-and-inverse/boil
NATURAL GAS FUTR MAR24

https://www.uscfinvestments.com/holdings/ung
NATURAL GAS FUTR Feb24

>>57226260
You shoulda been accumulating last year at their bottoms. Now you want to get in long ahead of the first Big Bank Earnings friday morning?

>>57225880
Don't look at trash like CVNA. I had that at 3.xx and 4.xx and I still sold too early. Trash can fly real good when they want to.

>>57226311
Will blackrock pump my account before earnings? They provide the analytics for my broker and most of my ETFs are from them

>>57226311
>AZZ
>WD40
>ACI
We're doomed

>>57226311
I legitimately had no idea Albertson's was still around

>>57226311
> literally who's until Friday
that'll be a day of reckoning

>>57226196
That is correct. You can also withdraw the principal from your taxable account for free. I also didn't mention margin loans.

>>57226311
Should I try some of the banking stocks? I want to get out of some tech positions.

>>57226247
>>57226230
>>57226195
>>57226106
I had some McD's sloppa recently at an airport and man it was good as fuck. I hadn't had any in years. Then on the plane I watched Harold and Kumar talking about "something to really hit the spot" and was like, yeah, these dudes fucking got it.

>>57226311
The friday pump will be epic

>>57226388
what are margin loans? is that basically where the brokerage will loan money against my roth so i can access money without paying taxes or penalties?

>>57226400
I haven't eaten MCD sloppa for 15 years.

>Today: +0.12%
>YTD: -1.74%
China and uranium need to stop being gayer than GRND

>>57226460
MCD sloppa is outta your income bracket anyway thanks to your BABA.

>>57225499
>$302.23
>All-time gain +$2.23
>All-time return 0.74%
only been at this a few days and only with $300 to start. so far so good

>>57226400
Is Whitecastle any good? The one I went to was in South side Chicago and I got a bad stomach ache from it.

>>57226460
I guarantee eating a sloppa burger will bring some memories back. I also had it overseas, where I paid $8 for a triple burger medium combo, and that shit REALLY hit the spot

>>57226460
I stopped going years ago because MCD drive thru became abominably slow. Like... I don't want to sit there for 20 min waiting for a burger, fries, and KO. That's ridiculous. I go to WEN, JACK, and KFC ($YUM) now.

>>57226477
The amount of onions they use there are guaranteed to give you the shits if you have sensitivity to onion/garlic

>>57226477
no idea
t. west coast nigga

>>57226473
Only cornmeal is in my income bracket $0.30 per pound.
>>57226480
Yeah it could bring back memories. I made the mistake of buying a whopper a year back and fuck that was just shit.
>>57226484
Wasn't aware they were so slow.

>>57226480
>I also had it overseas
Yeah, everyone else doesn't put in added chemicals and sugars into their quarter pounders. It's almost a gourmet meal compared to the American version. McDonald's locations in Euro capitals are notoriously crowded during the day.

>>57226432
Brokerage will loan you the money. Your collateral is whatever stocks/funds you have in the account already. The rub; your charged a fee every month based on the amount loaned. You can royally fuck yourself up good if you do this. If your stocks you buy with the money loaned tank or you fail to pay back what you owe then the brokerage can/will sell anything you have in the account to cover it. At will. You won't have a choice. If after that you still owe then well be prepared to tap any cash you got stashed away.

>>57226522
I love onions (the like the layered root thing, not the bean they use in tofu.) I eat them like apples.

So why did we pump so hard today?

Good day to BUY OIL

I bet SA bought their self induced dip

>>57226432
You can't use margin in a roth. Margin is for taxable accounts. But you have the right idea. Obviously with rates high right now its kinda iffy, but for most of the past decade it was a great tax avoidance scheme for the wealthy.

>>57226535
>Wasn't aware they were so slow.
They let the menu get so complicated over the past 10 years. I remember reading stores in multiple business papers about how wait times kept creeping up and up and up. The all day breakfast was the first move to have an impact, and it just got worse after that. They kept saying they were going to improve operations, but I never noticed any improvement. And that was at multiple MCD locations. MCD is coasting on reputation and brand recognition due to advertising saturation. Eventually, that goodwill runs out.
Also, the milkshake machine is always broken.

Holy fuck guys. I sold my first option. Sold 5 of them for $50.

Is it really this easy

>>57226262
Emily Blunt, Sarah Hyland, Olivia Munn

>>57226106
>>57226195
>>57226212
>>57226230
>>57226247
>>57226400
>>57226460
>>57226473
>>57226484
>>57226610
>McGoys
This anon predicted my McGoys experience 20 mins before it happened.

>>57225343
Went higher from after hours trading

MCD's has gone downhill drastically. It started with the fries. Then the rest of the menu turned to shat. Both in terms of taste and price. They've also bloated it way the hell out. They should look at WEN or Hardees menu. Simple is better. (Aside; I want my damn $1 Sausage Biscuit and $1 coffee back damnit!)

i think all fastfood burgers taste the same. shitty

get some small place artisanal burgers. way better.

SAVE bros...JetBlue CEO announced stepping down/retiring...

>>57226614
Sometimes it really is that easy. Some dude paid me a few thousand bucks to purchase some SAVE $30 calls off me. It's getting bought out for less than that strike.

>>57226311
> Albertsons
Looking forward to seeing just how much they profited by jacking up food prices across the board.

>>57225341
Step 1: Find the correct thread. This is /smg/
Step 2: Call your ISP. There is probably an outage
Step 3: Change the dns server. Try Google 8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4. If you are already using Google, try your isp's dns

>>57226694
>JBLU up 0.5% after-hours

>get a random check for $250 in the mail today from an old apartment security deposit I forgot about

>>57226737
why boo me fren? we on same team this is a good thing. verification not required

>>57226681
I want my fucking $1 double cheeseburger back dammit. I also miss the era of the double cheese burger no ketchup no mustard add mac sauce and lettuce. they clamped down on that one fast tho.

>>57226781
Oh I mean the CEO. Imagine you leave your job and your company's stock goes up lol

>>57226794
me thinks it’s because it is adding good lean towards merger happening. he was older and leaving for health issues. better to let someone new come in and handle all the merger related things and take the new merged JBLU to the skies

>burgsee will never experience peak comfy Nordsee Fastfood with cocktail sauce inside edible waffle containers
Why even live?

>>57226823
Problem there is it might mean a higher energy replacement who has no ties to the original deal might recut the deal to $25 or $20 per share.

>>57226832
>burgsee
I meant Burgers ofc
See? I'm already thinking too much about Nordsee

>TFW BAtard

Is NVDA going to 600? should I just fucking buy?

I just got back from wage slaving, why did we go straight up in a 45 degree angle today? On what news?

>>57226869
Its Alaska's fault for flying the damn plane with the warning lights beeping

>>57226890
But thas day noise da plain always make.

>>57226844
replacement is current president and COO who has “worked alongside me for over 9 years”

>>57226869
>TFW BABAtard.

>>57226921
>Joanna

>>57226869
>Loose bolts also found on some UAL 737's
Oh dios mio...

>>57226871
Yes.

>>57226963
No sympathy for sinofags.

>>57226477
White Castle is pretty bad and also unhealthy. I normally end up dipping the hamburgers in ketchup just to get some flavor.

>>57226881
Bounce off some moving averages/resistance levels. Past few days were us cooling off from the October-December giga rally and failing to go any lower because, well, there's no bad news right now.

>futes

>>57226988
Checked...
https://youtu.be/zJ07oOKZs7o?t=77

Honestly wish I wasnt such a pussy back in September and dumped all my VOO for O instead of just half.

Anons, if I, an ARMchad had VERY HIGH confidence that ARM will pass 100$ in 2024, but unsure when exactly, what would be the best way to maximize profits on that prediction, but minimize risk if it crabs at the current level?

Let's say I've got 2000 bucks to toss away

>>57226963
im scared to invest in china. NIO is trading at a 8/share and they make really nice electric vehicles, probably on par with if not better than teslas.

just everything i have read about chinese stocks is stay away they are completely rigged, no oversight, china invades taiwan, xi gets mad and demands all their money. who the fuck knows? just crazy to see companies making products similar to USA knowing there is tangible value there, but investing is too risky.

we are so back bros

>>57227019
>01/06/2024
>Man I wish I wasn't such a pussy back in January and dumped all my VOO for BABA instead, or just half.
Yes, I can tell the future. How did you know?

>>57226984
UAL needs to show some fucking gumption and tighten the damn bolts, bolts get loose all the time

>>57227045
Idk man, why should I buy BABA.
Keep in mind I do not like Chinsects.

>>57227038
>but investing is too risky.
Yeah It's risky now that the bubble popped, but when stocks rebound it will be less risky because people like to buy the top.
>>57227045
Correction 06/01/2024

Do you guys really just sit in front of a screen watching charts all day?
Surely you have other hobbies... right?

It’ll be a decent day tomorrow too.

>>57227062
>Idk man, why should I buy BABA.
It's at a 7 P/E.
Revenues growing at 9% TTM.
They have $60B in cash and are buying back shares.
They own 33% of ANT Group which had an oversubscribed IPO with a valuation of $350B.
You don't have to like Chinks to make money off them.

>>57227097

is my tsla long about to get rekt? Im spooked about the low volume and the way the price went today. The last time this happened it gapped down.

>>57227097
I also post on /pol/

>>57227019
If you dumped half then you already did better than most traders, something more apt than most investors (they're just DCA'ing) and you know this but it's that little greed voice that lives in everyone's heads

>>57227120
Of course it will. Every day is decent because it's a great big beautiful world and I'm lucky to be alive to enjoy it. Life is good.

>>57227097
>Surely you have other hobbies... right?
yes.

>>57227145
We all do, Undertakeranon, we all do.

>>57227030
Personally I'd look at LEAPS: https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/ARM/volatility-greeks?expiration=2025-01-17-m

Maybe sell OTM puts if you're confident in crabbing.

>>57227145
/pol/ is dead.

>>57227097
I don't even watch charts I research companies and sit on /smg/. Yes, I have hobbies: I lift weights at home and... well that's enough hobbies.

>>57227097
I work out, mainly so one day I can fight the Fed. Me and J Pow, 1-on-1, in the ring.

>>57227179
>I wanna bet 100$ on anon right fucking now!

>>57227179
I think the dude has a sneaky fire/attitude that would make him tough. Just shut the fucking door and whatnot.

>>57227161
I don't know how to read any of this shit, explain like I'm five anon

>>57227121
Ok what does ANT group do? Why are they worth 350B?
Ill look into baba more, im just scared the chinsects will get skiddly and try some shit with Taiwan.
Demographically their window is closing for kinetic action with Taiwan.

>>57227217
>ANT group
They own Alipay among other financial services companies, Alipay is a digital payment service, something like paypal you pay for everything with your phone. it's bigger than mastercard and more than 1B people use the service.

>>57226261
>not one semi stock
why

>boeing can't make functional planes anymore
>I am led to believe all these chip manufacturers can keep making fancier chips that work or new factories that don't go up in flames from some competency crisis meets exec suits being ignorant bro dudes that couldn't pass electricity and magnetism calculus based physics

Please tell me how we can keep designing and building 50 billion transistor black magic boxes that require extreme careful manufacturing precision yet the simple physics of a bolted door on a plane is prone to failure and complex.

>>57227210
LEAPS: Calls that expire at least several months from now

The various columns: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/greeks.asp

Selling puts: You sell a put (a contract saying you'll buy shares at a certain price) of, say, $60 with an expiration a month from now. Some degenerate buys it for like 80 cents, you pocket the cash. If ARM keeps crabbing at $70, the degenerate loses and loses until the expiration date when the contract expires and you're home free. If ARM drops to $60 (or $50 or $40) before expiration, you may have to buy shares for the cost of $60. So either you get free money or you, as they say, "bag cheapies" and buy ARM shares at a low price.

Make sense?

>>57227260
ASML, TSM, and NVDA are diversity free (sorry, INTCels, you aren't). They may get taken over by MBAs and cat ladies at some point but not yet.

>>57226786
Based Mac sauce enjoyers unite

>>57227274
And how do I make the gigagains if it goes to 100? Both those versions sound like I'd only make profit if it crabs

>>57227217
BABA - there's no point in owning it if they spin out their cloud offerings. Look at Amazon. They get most of their money from cloud and e-commerce 2nd. You want the "amazon" of china as it is not busted apart. They said for now any cloud spin is on hold. But don't fall for the trap. Once the bean counters get something in their heads they tend to not let it go till it happens.

>>57227260
my understanding is boeing was purchased by a corporate entity ran by min/maxers who have looked for anyway to save a buck. their engineering standards went down but their profits went up.

>>57227259
Well via my funds I own pretty much everything already except non us based.

>>57227260
>Please tell me how we can keep designing and building 50 billion transistor black magic boxes that require extreme careful manufacturing precision yet the simple physics of a bolted door on a plane is prone to failure and complex
transistor black boxes are now designed with other transistor black boxes, and are built with machines out of necessity. they are sold to end consumers, who are the final arbiters of quality. the executives of those industries will use their own products daily
commercial airplanes are riveted together by a fat union slob who can't be fired without the entire aviation industry grinding to a halt, and sold b2b to companies whose executives will never sit in one, not even promotionally, and who care more about unit cost than comfort

>>57227307
>They said for now any cloud spin is on hold.
The CEO was changed, the previous CEO wanted to spin of all the different businesses. The current one doesn't want to spin of Cloud only logistics and their supermarket business.

>>57227097
>implying I look at charts
I just watch youtube hype channels and read chan threads

>>57227260
>Please tell me how we can keep designing and building 50 billion transistor black magic boxes that require extreme careful manufacturing precision yet the simple physics of a bolted door on a plane is prone to failure and complex.
bolts are exposed to aviation tension and pressure. chips just get hot. not quite the same engineering requirements.

>>57227260
wasn't the bolts due to human error? what I heard. as in they didn't torque em properly.

semis are manufactured by machines. machines don't make mistakes. they only do what they are programmed to do.

humans? make mistakes all the time. for low volume items. its cheaper to hire a human than build some special machine to replace him.

>>57227097
I have some hobbies and even occasionally load up an emulator to play some old games on. plus I watch both crypto and stock charts so that can take some time between hobbies and various activities. I also like to ai gen hamsters in various adventures.

>>57227303
As ARM rises, the put you sold will drop in price even faster than just waiting for expiration*. That would allow you to buy it back and sell another put at a higher price for more money.

As for the LEAP side, that's just a call. It goes up in value the same as any other call, albeit a bit slower than your usual 0dte nonsense because it's long-dated/expires a while from now.


*Remember those Greeks? That drop in price from it rising = delta. The waiting for expiration part = theta.

>>57226484
I started driving to a mc's farther away, closer to the rich people. Night and day difference in service and atmosphere. They even, sometimes, have some cute white girls that could give some cfa sluts a run for their money.

>>57227294
Unite!

>>57227381
honestly I think this is the issue
poor people labor has gone to shit

>Two Rothmans a day keeps the doctor away.
British American Tobacco plc Ticker: BTI

>>57226970
Fuck I’m thinking about it now

>>57227381
Yeah, there might be a quality diff between poor and non-poor area MCDs... but for me, I didn't notice one. The absolute slowest waits I had were at a MCD just outside a business park with some major tech companies in one of the most wealthy suburban areas in the country. The other worst times I had were at the North Ave MCD in Baltimore...

if you made a bunch of money long calls and they are deep ITM it's customary to hit the wide bid to tip your local market maker.

>>57227355
machines wear down over time and as tolerances weaken the slight differences in the outputs aren't always detectable by existing QA systems
whole companies are paid billions to build wafer and PCB fab QA tools that are similarly automated, so that they can keep up
humans often know when they made a mistake. they just redo the work.

So my fiance's family is not going to pay for the wedding bro's I guess her dad isn't walking her down the isle lol

>>57227613
Just knock her up and tell them there won't be a wedding you'll be buying BABA stock with the wedding money. Put your foot down, let them know how things are gonna to be from now on.

nowadays i'm barely able to browse zerohedge.
it's full of images of vile, disgusting faces

>>57227613
how big of a wedding did she want?

>>57227651
$15k-20k
>>57227636
tempted to just fly her and i to vegas and hav ea wedding honeymoon combo and have her returned impregnated.

>>57227697
oh yea fuck that

>>57227404
Here's an idea: we could decrease the deficit by burning the staff of the treasury department in a gas turbine to decrease some of our energy consumption.

>>57227697
You could do that or just knock her up and invest 20k in stocks. Up to you.

>>57227777

>>57227777
lmao

>>57227153

>>57227777
it's over

>>57227494
>flat since 2011
ooof

>>57227777
What did he mean by this?

>>57227697
>$15k-20k
scammed. enjoy your divorce.

>>57227613
Make it a service. If he wants to walk her, he has to pay. If he wants to attend, also. Etc. paylevels.

>>57227777
Great googly moogly we BIG GREEN tomorrow

>>57227798
>flat since 2011
Not if you take dividends into account. Also we are going to recede in 1-2 years so good to have tobacco stocks during a recession.

>>57227777

>>57227805
I can probably get her to do it under $15K
>>57227815
Told her that none of her family will be attending if they going to have me pay for it except her mom and her aunt and uncle (who are willing to chip in)

>>57227636
>Just knock her up
>buying BABA stock with the wedding money.
>Put your foot down, let them know how things are gonna to be from now on.

>>57227777
>green id
spx 7777 eoy checked

>>57227777
Holy ghost. No. What have you done

>>57227777
Is this frontrunning?

>>57227777
>1pbtid

>>57227777
I always knew the prophecy were true but I did not know it were here with you sers Do you know what I mean.

>>57227850
It is what it is. It's the winning move, he gets a kid and triples his money on BABA. While the father seethes everyday knowing that he lost the argument, and the guy he lost to is fucking his daughter every night. In the end Anon has a kid $60k worth of BABA shares and the father is seething and his wife probably hates him as well because he pussied out on funding the wedding.

>>57227777
bullish

>>57227889
>posts as himself
You are looking way too much into this person s life.

>>57227777
holy witnessed

>>57227909
>way too much into this person s life.
I mean not really it's a logical conclusion I reached in 5 seconds.

>>57227889
>and triples his money on BABA
let's not be getting too far ahead of ourselves now shall we Ch*na shills...

>>57227777
No train?

>>57227940
BABA fair value is $240.

go washington (a jeff bezos university)! beat michigan!

>>57227777

>bullish signal

wgmi

>>57227841
>paid for our own wedding
>made a 50% profit in gifts
Must suck not being Italian

>>57228006
the sad thing is, I am italian. but I am the only person in my family and apparently my fiances family that doesn't live paycheck to paycheck like a fucking retard.

>>57227971
the ""fair"" ""value"" of your Cayman Islands Chuck-E-Cheese tokens that Xi can delete at any time is $0.000 dollars and you know it.

>>57228026
damn :(

>>57228030
He hasn't deleted shit and neither is he planning on such a thing. All he's done is fine Alibaba, something that western governments practice themselves.

>>57227940
>Uncle Sam folds to the Houthis

>>57228030
There's nothing China wants more than to become the new merchants of the world. Why the fuck would Xi sabotage that endeavor?

>>57228043
> Randomly detains top executive of BABA because he hurt his feelings
> Idolizes Mao, the expert in deleting anything that he didn't like. Even sparrows.
> Literally makes entire categories of business illegal overnight
> Those fucking loudspeaker drones patrolling the cities during COVID
If you really think Xi won't leave you broke and seething I don't know what to tell you

>>57228053
> Free drone shootdown training for Western-aligned navies
I'm shaking

>>57228101
>Why the fuck would Xi sabotage that endeavor?
He already has been for at least the past 10 years, maybe more

>>57228191
>Free drone shootdown training for Western-aligned navies
>Free
Buddy, check Container Freight Index Computer.

And SM-2 Reload Cost Computer (shoutout to my RTX homies).

>>57227983
Michigan is a garbage state. Completely flat.
I would never invest in any company based out of Michigan.
Such flat and uninteresting terrain breeds mediocrity and complacency.

>>57227777
shiver me timbers

>>57228191
The Suez Canal is still effectively closed. Also, baker bake. I have an important announcement to make.

>>57228235
Real men build their industry in the Appalachians.

>>57228235
>all that water
>all those forests
>all those hills and small mountains
idk anon it seems like its got some decent stuff going on. my only regret is there's no good mining companies or lumber industry to invest into of note in michigan. but I havent dug deep enough yet.

bitch ass nigger nobakers
let this finally be the last one

The Houthis are blocking the new thread because it allows Jews to post in it (Rocker and Baggie).

>>57228227
>Buddy, check Container Freight Index Computer.
sounds like a Europoor problem to me

>And SM-2 Reload Cost Computer
Still a smaller percentage of our GDP than the Aliexpress spec missiles are to Yemen

>>57228379
>sounds like a Europoor problem to me
Ships is fungible, hoss.

>Still a smaller percentage of our GDP than the Aliexpress spec missiles are to Yemen
Yemen ain't the one paying it. And the folks footing that bill don't give a fuck if their inflation ticks up a few %. We die if ours does.

>>57228392
>Ships is fungible, hoss.
Only if you're willing to pay the premium.
Not
Our
Problem.

Biweekly Roth contribution hit. Congratulate me on my excellent investments

Baking...

>>57228459
2slow

>>57228461
>>57228461
>>57228461
>>57228461

>>57227777
Self checked

how come there are zero option gambling talk in biz subchannel? there should be a option general. I guaranteed whoever makes the option general with be popular. free 1 million dollar idea for someone to take