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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only darknet escrow service
https://pastebin.com/raw/7DW8hSgk

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Hectate Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Smackers
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/fknwLx6q


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

Monero is the only real cryptocurrency because it has a cute anime mascot.

>>57167698
where can I buy this sweater?

Hey bros I finally started making money with Monero using this neat trick! https://coin.guru/pages/short-selling-monero-using-margin-trading

>page 10

Reporting in
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IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
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Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

Haveno when?

Cloudflare CAPTCHAs suck

>>57167698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxAGTNctmx4

>>57172079
Look at that mouth breathers hairline

>>5717232
that's OP's picrel isn't it?

bing image creator (dalle3) is good for monero meme making

I've just about had it with clearweb and cloudflare.
Farewell, my friends. Perhaps I'll see some of you on the Night Side. Good luck.

>>57172079
More cringe core videos like this?

>>57174137
findus on bitchan

>>57167760
>UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees
Can someone elaborate pls?

>>57170834
based wireyboi

I want to buy monero but I need that price to go lower I'm that kind of risk taker

>>57174138
in the making. check the whole channel.

New Feather Wallet version released today.
>https://featherwallet.org/changelog/

>>57174193
Chain security equals miner revenue. You can pay miners either through block rewards (inflation) or transaction fees. Bitcoin's security has historically been funded through block rewards, but fees have consistently grown since inception. From 2011 to 2015 the fee floor (bottom during bear market) did a 340X, a 23.2X from 2015 to 2019, and 3.2X from 2019 to 2023.
Whether this fee progression will be enough depends on what the price will be in a decade or two and whether you think competition for block space will increase.

How many XMR do I need to buy a 10/10 russian mail order bride?

>>57174193
At the moment there is little threat to miner profits & network security after the halving, even if the price doesn't change a ton.

it's over
sub 100 by eow

Is XMR going to get delisted from Binance?

>>57175869
where do you live?

>>57175869
>he doesn't know

>>57167698
Reminder that many public-private organisations are running Ops against goyim owning precious metals and anonymity enhanced cryptocurrencies.
Here is a compendium of psyop strategies they use: https://disarmframework.herokuapp.com/

Why the fuck does the Monero RandomX benchmark show the absolute maximum score for a CPU type rather than the average? Am I retarded and missing the option to see the average score?

Devteam, insiders and whales are dumping due to delistings

>>57177148
nope

>>57174471
You got a decent price here, we def entering heavy resistance territory

>>57177314
Do you think waiting for sub-100 is too greedy?

>>57177961
if you are buying based on the ratio, now is probably a good time. It might dump a little more.

Should I DCA to build up reserves or just buy when I need to use Monero?

this shitcoin only bleeds

>>57178393
2 more weeks

If this is true https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18xkiqw/2024_irs_tax_reporting_rule_on_crypto/

what are the implications, are we basically the only coin that isn't a shitcoin it basically looks like bitcoin will be integrated into the system making the whole point of bitcoin pointless

It's the anon having issues with the Monero node with Docker again. Thanks to the other anon trying to solve my issues. It turns out I have an Intel NIC card driver bug on 2 of the hosts that gets triggered every few hours, causing major issues with raft consensus on Docker Swarm and the host. Solution seems to be to turn off GSO/TSO or replace NIC card

>>57178551
Bitcoin is now just a funko pop.

>>57178404
what happens next?

>wearing a scarf inside
Do white people really?

>>57178634
If it's an actual card and not onboard just swap it out, NICs are cheap.

>>57178551
No one fucking read the actual report. It's for businesses that receive over $10k worth of crypto, which is something they already do for cash, etc., as part of fincen. Every time you deposit over $10k at your bank or an exchange, they tell the IRS about it. Been that way for a long time.

PIECE of SHIT

>>57179891
Fucking hell that's brutal. Not been this low in sats since 2016.

>>57179921
I remember buying for ~0.0033 couple of years ago.
Couldn't care less about fiat monopoly money.

>>57179891
worst of shitcoin, only bleeds. endless humiliation

>>57179547
It's an onboard on a mini PC. It does accept a NIC card, but I filled it with a 40 Gbps Mellanox card for storage network. I have now disabled TSO/GSO offloading and the issue seems to have gone away

The throughput on my NIC cards seem to have halved so that's a concern, but better than things crashing all the time

I think at some point I'll get a cheap small 10g switch and use VLANs on it instead. Super frustrating and nobody seems to have found a concrete fix that doesn't halve the throughput

>>57179998
File a bug with your distro's kernel package or go yell at the maintainers on LKML.

Legal rehypothecation, commingling, and wash trading. Cold wallets are rehypothecated to pump the value
>not your keys
>not your coins
As in not yours to begin with.

>produce a piece of furniture
>convince all friends who produce goods and need furniture to use XMR
>(allegedly) exchange said furniture for some XMR
>(allegedly) use obtained XMR to purchase some food from friends
>don't use green government papers anymore
>NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT! BUT PLS STILL PLAY "TAXES" EVEN THOUGH MONERO ISN'T REAL MONEY BUT ONLY THE (((DOLLAR))) IS!!!
Is this accurate?

>>57180578
I mean crypto is being handled as capital goods so that would be a bartering transaction. But that's still taxable anon.
Even when using xmr you'll need to do some research into how to go about things

>>57180891
Philosophically speaking, taxation of fiat isn't theft in my eyes, you're just giving back a certain amount of their meaningless papers back. But taxation of crypto (they had nothing to do with its production) seems to be literal theft, no?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

how much moneros can I mine with a 1080 and a fast i5 cpu?

>>57181160
They brought the coin, and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”

“Caesar’s,” they replied.

Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”

>>57181381
Yeah, this is why I believe fiat taxation is justified while we're in this fallen world.

>>57181381
>>57181381

>They brought the monerocoin, and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”
>“Monerochan’s,” they replied.
>Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Coke what is Coke’s and to Freedom what is Freedom’s.”

Is luck based solo mining viable?

So what do I actually buy with this shit? Not trying to buy drugs off some darknet honeypot (99.999% of all sites)

>>57181546
monerica.com

Monero Sisters, things are starting to look up.

>>57181637
stop bringing attention to that faggot.
he couldn't even deliver haveno. fuck him. he should cut his dick, do transmaxxing and join the zec sissies.

>>57181637
I don't own any monero but this is changed my mind about acquiring some

>>57181637
Uh... based? Buying some more XMR right now.

>>57181637
I hope this guy won't be running the Localization Workgroup anymore, dude ran it into the fucking ground over the past few months

>>57181637
>((()))
>LebAnon
kek

>>57181546
https://twitter.com/shopinbit/status/1742267764969017550
I get these captchas wrong often enough that it's annoying to use

>>57180029
It's present for like 5 yrs now lol. They tried fixing it in earlier version but seems to be something wrong with hardware

>>57181637
what a pretentious fag, he contributed NOTHING

>>57181942
lmao he lost his shit over that? lebanon might be a begging faggot, but if the fat italian actually leaves i shall forgive him

>>57181763
Looks like he is running Vocalization Workgroup tho.

>>57178341
DCA into Monero. You never know for how long you‘ll be able to buy XMR. Only spend it if you really have to and there‘s no other way.

>>57177961
Recent support has been at 162 and 155. Would take all the delisting news at this point to take us sub 100. The fact we took 162 back this quick is extremely bullish. Also highest volume in months (maybe years idk) recently- aka strong resistance to the dump

>>57179891
>he still did no sell
Sad! Many such cases.

Lets talk about the implications of monero getting delisted, rich spencef in man vs the state he spoke how parliament would encroach on the freedom of the individual for the good of the common therefore i may ask what are the markets that xmr will technically expand, i think agenda 2030 will want drugs to be legal so i don't see the point of using an ilegal coin if drugs become legal and if drugs are the only market xmr has well its a quite limited market, other markets i wouldn't like to profit thought ransomwares are kinda based but outside of drugs i don't see mainstream need of xmr, people will get fired from their jobs thanks to automation but they will be happy with their ubi and their cbdcs so there will be no need to use an outsider currency

What is the Monero-chan case against ETH?

>>57184417
just sell you limp dick faggot

>>57184417
>i don't see the point of using an ilegal coin

No? So what's the point of using a govt-approved coin over, say, PayPal?


>if drugs become legal

Weed, sure. Coke and H not for decades yet.


>if drugs are the only market xmr has well its a quite limited market

The black market is so much more than just drugs, the counterfeiting industry alone is twice the size of the narcotics business.

>>57184500
ETH is an unusable shitcoin with $100 gas fees.

>>57167698
monero can't wait to do permissionless anonymous swaps between monero and btc, and resources on the implementation of atomic swaps already?

>>57184417
>I don't see see the mainstream need of xmr
Tell me anon, have you ever heard of divorce rape? How about paying for something without Uncle Sam raping your hard-earned value? What about donating to a political cause that isn't kosher? What about sending money, right now, to wherever in the world at an instant, without any record of it happening to the outside world? What if your country is under sanctions and you are unable to pay for goods?
How would a digital cayman island, available to any layperson with an internet connection, NOT be a necessity in a world run on CBDCs and/or UBI?
Monero is valuable because privacy will always be needed. Just because you don't think you need it, doesn't mean you won't, and even if you don't need Monero, it will be needed elsewhere.

>>57181637
ehrenhofer is gay too which makes this hilarious.

>>57185000
holy based trips of truth

Orange masterminds,
what up with xrp fagots shilling that it will 10x in a year or so. Does it mean it will fall to zero or what. What is this hype all about xrp

>>57177044
not sure but i think that some of the benchmarks for some CPUs specially for the ones used in servers are actually clusters of like 4 CPUs. anyway you can check each thread hashrate and use that to calculate how much hash would you have with the CPU.

>>57181440
anon, taxation is always theft. it doesn't matter who produced some product/service, once you buy it, it is completely yours
would you consider fair that the baker takes a little bit of your bread each time you make a sandwich only because he was the one that produced it?
Taxation while (still)necessary, must be kept as low as possible not a high as possible like they do in clown world.

Paper wallet + view key is the way to go? Or is just having a good & secure OS sufficient?

>>57186751
veracrypt container on a usb/microsd works too. Just toss it in a safe and you're good to go.

>>57181637
>>57181942
>I'm in for the tech
>NO not like that!!!

>>57180152
What does this even mean?

>>57184233
What’s with the volume? Is it India? Ukraine? A guy in Chicago?

>>57184565
For counterfeit products i am sure you can use cash no need for monero heck probably they post in craiglist use a and offer counterfeit products and then dissapear

>>57187099
My strategy for that level of backups is an AES256 encrypted KeePassX DB with a strong passphrase for all my seed phrases and to limit how much I keep in anything but the official GUI/CLI wallets or totally offline addresses.

>>57186751
Just buy a hardware wallet. Cheap enough these days

All of the hardware recommendations linked here are a few years old. What's are the current recommendations for someone who isn't trying to make a business out of it, i.e. is just planning on mining with my desktop when I'm not otherwise using it?

>>57187908

How are you supposed to use cash to buy fake Gucci gear for your unsuspecting girlfriend if you're ordering online?

>>57190141
Any desktop Ryzen/Threadripper chip that starts with a 3 or higher.

How to you swap your XMR for a larger amount of fiat (3 digits+)? Localmonero?

>>57182773
I wasn't asking for money
>>57181942
Was gonna post this. Fuck that guy.
Muh antisemitism

>>57190790
I did post this on the Element XMR room
https://tallycoin.app/@lebanonanon/opening-a-street-kebab-kiosk-2UAFa1w5/
They added me back after banning the kike

>>57190786
LocalMonero is pretty common. If stablecoins are fine TradeOgre is also an option.

>>57190786
sorry, fiat to monero is the only direction that makes sense.

>>57190790
>>57190800
A known serial scam artist is flooding the monero channels begging and mass reporting EXACTLY LIKE HE'S DONE HERE FOR 4 FUCKING YEARS
Wow you stupid faggots haven't shamed this jewish nigger to death is beyond me.

>>57189205
They don't deliver to my country. And I don't trust the hardware either way.
>>57187935
> totally offline addresses
What's the benefit to using an offline wallet if my system is only used for crypto and has good security?

>>57186751
Paper wallets are really only good for long term cold storage and no spending. A good hardware wallet like a Trezor is happy medium.

Friendly reminder that /XMR/ General Poker Night is a go for Saturday, there's also another group of Dread anons getting together to play so hopefully it'll get busy.

Tell all your poker pals about it, the key selling point here is provably fair play over an anonymized network using anonymized cash, no feds, no IRS, no capital gains bullshit.

>>57191799
Offline addresses are like savings vs. checking accounts, it's to make it harder for you to blow your whole stack at once.

>>57190800
Stop begging you freak

>>57193036
Do I need a GTO solver to win versus those autists?

>>57167698
You are all criminals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaIuZkfVgeE

>>57195457
wow. ai generated garbage. VERY COOL

>>57195731
feds are on their way to lock you up

>>57195457

More of this, scaring moonfags away is based beyond belief.

>>57196149
>More of this, scaring moonfags away is based beyond belief.
It also scares away potential merchants. Be careful what you wish for.

>>57193036
how do we know the game is fair?

>>57196265
That's his entire goal, to isolate Monero like that. He also posts "Monero tax evasion, fuck kikes & niggers" threads in pol, which, as fun as that is, has shit optics and glows hard.

>>57196715
funny thing is there are hardly any moonfags for monero anymore. Pretty much the only people left are those of us who see it's full potential as a usable currency.

>>57196265
>It also scares away potential merchants. Be careful what you wish for.

It scares away compliance cucks who can't comprehend why exactly criminals flock to Monero.

Zcash has been doing the whole "no criminals here!" schtick for years yet it has resulted in virtually zero merchant adoption for them while Monero is now set to establish a total monopoly on online black/grey market commerce.. Turns out notoriety works better than knee-bending when it comes to growing the network effect.

>>57195457
i actually liked the song

>>57196715
>That's his entire goal, to isolate Monero like that.

Yeah, that's it!

>He also posts "Monero tax evasion, fuck kikes & niggers" threads in pol, which, as fun as that is, has shit optics and glows hard.

Not me btw. But I don't mind you thinking so.

Just sell your heavy XMR bags and go all in on BTC, it's totally going to $100K this year, you know.

>>57196911

>It scares away compliance cucks who can't comprehend why exactly criminals flock to Monero.
I don't care about Zcash. Nor should you. I care about being able to use Monero to buy things I want. That includes anything from a cup of coffee to home goods and groceries to a pound of weed if I want. I want Monero to be used just like cash. I don't waste energy seething over what other shittier cryptos do.

Any opinions about ZEPH?

>>57197081
No.

>>57196992
yeah it was cute. :)

>>57197018
>it's totally going to $100K this year
Do Bitcoin and Zcash live rent free in your head or what?

>>57197038
>I care about being able to use Monero to buy things I want. That includes anything from a cup of coffee to home goods and groceries to a pound of weed if I want. I want Monero to be used just like cash.

Yeah, we all do but expecting Monero to NOT be sanctioned and marginalized in the near-future is foolish. If its a genuine threat then expect it to be treated as such.

In other words, there is no future for XMR in permissioned white markets. Only underground commerce is permissionless.

And if you're in any doubt about that just recall why MoneroMetals.com shut down recently.

>>57197153
>Do Bitcoin and Zcash live rent free in your head or what?

Yes.

>>57197161
>In other words, there is no future for XMR in permissioned white markets. Only underground commerce is permissionless.
I choose to remain optimistic that XMR can and will be adopted because choosing to believe it won't makes XMR mostly useless. Normal people don't need 99% of what is sold on the darknet. So I encourage anyone to start accepting Monero in their business. It would not be difficult to do as it require the same treatment as cash in terms of book keeping and reporting. More adoption is always better and your gate keeping faggotry of use by the darknet and criminals only is fucking gay.

>>57197180
Well stop it

>>57197228
I'm ok if monero is only used by 1% or 2% of the people
like linux
that's enough for me
adoptos desperate fags out

>>57197228
>I choose to remain optimistic that XMR can and will be adopted

Cool. The MoneroMetals.com guy was also optimistic he'd that be able to run a Monero-based business on the clearnet without issue. Turns out he was a bit too optimistic.

So yeah, encourage white market XMR adoption wherever you can but just remember that targeted regulations WILL eventually make it untenable, so if you want to be ahead of the curve prepare accordingly and build for the underground. There's no reason you can't also sell fully legal goods & services on the darknet.

>>57197339
>I'm ok if monero is only used by 1% or 2% of the people

5 - 10% should be the goal, a vast global underground parallel economy servicing the needs of millions of sovereign individuals and making the Establishment seethe.

>>57197361
>The MoneroMetals.com guy was also optimistic he'd that be able to run a Monero-based business on the clearnet without issue.
What happened? qrd?

>>57197415

Looming regulations around crypto and especially its use in bullion trading made him decide it was too risky to keep going. So he shut the whole thing down. Shame.

>I need to choose my battles wisely. Instead of fighting with USA regulators, I'd rather just spend time with my kids.

He did leave open the possibility of returning someday though. It would have to be a darknet-only operation, obviously. Which is the point I'm making here, the only way to be fully immune to that kind of interference is to go dark.

>>57195731
That is a real (beautiful) woman singer.

>>57197415
clearnet businesses accepting monero are being targeted by feds. some survive longer than others but sooner or later they all get v&

>>57197525
this guy is gonna find out soon. he gives out quasi-dangerous information

>>57198068
not to mention his monero accepting store. but thats second to why the feds want to do something about him

>>57198068
>>57198070
retarded fud. clearnet businesses are not being targeted by feds lol.

>>57198100
clearnet businesses accepting monero are.

>>57195457
damn just sold everything

>>57198108
If you operate in the clearnet you need records on anyone buying over 10k of merch plus a licence in the case of gold.

What do you do when there is bad internet sometimes my monero wallet cant fucking connect to a node will that get better with seraphis update

>>57198395
Try using an Onion node over Tor. Sometimes ISPs have dogshit retarded routing or DNS issues but Tor always finds a way. Monerujo and Feather both support Tor by default.

i cant open ports on my network, how else can i support xmr? I can contribute to funds that are claimable by people coding for the network or something like that right?

>>57195457
>monero is a trap
>monero is a scam
>monero is a waste of time and money
>monero is a joke
>monero is a hoax
>monero is a nightmare not a fantasy

>>57167698
>BTC back at 40-something-k
I can't believe XMR has finally decoupled from BTC just to be an eternal underperformer. It's going to be $160 when BTC hits 100k.

>>57181381
In that context, Christ is getting locked up for tax evasion if he explicitly tells them to fuck off. Considering "Give unto God what is God's" is being said by the guy who knows more than anyone that EVERYTHING is God's.
Perhaps most importantly, the income tax at the time was 1%, not the 15-25% americans pay when you include social security taxes.

>>57198798
Tor is a NAT punch. Run an onion node.

>>57199318
that's an I2P node right? I'm trying to follow

https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/node-i2p-zero.html

and im already stuck at step 3. Do I open powershell in the directory and type that? because that's not working. I used to run a public node but that was years ago

>>57199173
its not specific to xmr, long term every altcoin has peaked against btc and just makes lower highs forever.

What does this actually mean?

>>57199453
No, onions are Tor. I2p is its own thing that basically doesn't connect to the clear Internet. I2p was designed to address flaws in Tor is ironically much more sensitive to being behind shitty firewalls because it relies on every participant being a full node.

>>57198395
>will that get better with seraphis update
Absolutely. One of the main changes with seraphis will be the instant sync to remote nodes without risking your privacy. Dont remember well but it was something like you can share one of your keys with thw node and the node can use that key to keep track of thw transactions of your wallet so when you connect to thw node, the node already has the up to date state of your wallet which is then send to you. All of this, as i said, without breaking privacy. The key is enough for the node to mantain the state of your wallet but at the same time the data is encrypted and the node cant see it.
Pretty cool stuff huh?

>>57198798
>how else can i support xmr?
Just mine friend. Thats all you need to do. Mine with a regular computer in a pool thats 3rd place or lower.

DO NOT USE UNSTOPPABLE SWAP (AT LEAST THE GUI)

The Dev is fucking retarded and sets btc fees too low. Your transaction will not confirm properly. He was supposed to fix this. The old version is still on Github. I have to wait 11 hours to hopefully refund my transACKtion. Should have just done cake exchange instead fuck me. If he can make a release and not update the homepage it's a horrible sign of QC in his app. Do NOT USE. there are many issues on the tracker about this

These glowies sure are being successful in making my life a living hell. No more CEX and now this shitware has me sitting on my hands for 12 hours. Trust the trust less protocol they say. lmao. KYC more like KYS

>>57200442
Why not use localmonero?

>>57200213
>One of the main changes with seraphis will be the instant sync to remote nodes without risking your privacy.
Source is jberman's presentation at monerokon 22: https://yewtu.be/xGEBRQU1lzw?t=726

>>57167698
SIdeShift.ai no longer does XMR swaps.
Letsexchange.io does. Any thoughts on them?

>>57199592
It just means you need to put 5.0076 times more effor than normal.

>>57196715
oh no people can't handle being against the enemies of humanity, oh well, I don't care more for me the cattle can die

the jews currently don't have the best optics at the moment on account of them killing babies openly

>>57198108
no, they aren't lmao. Why would you get on the internet and just lie like this, anon?

>>57196555
>how do we know the game is fair?

https://www.thepokerbank.com/bitcoin/learn/provably-fair/

Tonight is Poker Night! Official announcement with all the details will be posted soon.

>>57199173
>when BTC hits 100k

Why so bearish? $10 million end of year.

>>57198108
okay, show us examples glownigger.

Reminder to all the unsuspecting XMR enjoyers in this thread. Ignore the glowie fud and remember always: Monero is for everybody.

>>57201626
The pol Monero threads aren't some deep discussion about Jewish treatment of Palestinians. And the whole point of Monero is to be neutral money. It beats the yids just by existing, without having to be overly political about it.

>>57202012
anyone tried this yet?

>>57203136
>anyone tried this yet?

The site is pretty slick but the CAPTCHA to get in is an absolute mindfuck, its going to cause a lot of people to give up.

>>57203392
rake is too high for something that takes no resources

>>57200213
>seraphis
damn they still havent added that shit?

>>57203865
these are not monkey pics we are talking about lad, its top cryptography stuff and it takes time to develop and test.

*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****

Hang out and play Texas Hold'em with fellow MoneroChads safely over an anonymized network and hopefully win some XMR along the way!

http://dkforestseeaaq2dqz2uflmlsybvnq2irzn4ygyvu53oazyorednviid.onion
http://dkforest4gwaceahf4te3vs7ycddtbpf2lucocxdzhphezikdgnq.b32.i2p

>REQUIREMENTS
You will obviously need to download and install either the Tor or I2Pd Browser to access the darknet.

https://www.torproject.org/download/
https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pdbrowser/releases/tag/1.3.3

You will also need an unknown amount of XMR to play. Don't stake more than you can afford to lose.

Optionally, you can voice chat and coordinate over Jitsi for a more authentic social experience. Jitsi is FOSS and end-to-end encrypted.

https://meet.jit.si/
https://desktop.jitsi.org/Main/Download.html


Note that unlike with clearnet gaming, playing over Tor with Monero is by far the comfiest way to play because your identity, IP address and money trail cannot be established so you don't have to worry about legalities or about the tax man coming to collect his share of your winnings.

Good luck!!

>>57195457
kek

>>57205060
why don't you post the address of the poker onion site here?
is it illegal to post here?

>>57190141
Apple M1 and M2. Buy broken gear and go to town.

>>57205912
he posted it

>>57205944
that's the address of some other site, dark gay forest, and you're only allow to see it if you register

>>57205980

That is the site, genius.

>>57206024
What's the onion/b32 for Dread?

8.6 KH/s on p2pool mini for 24 hours, and I haven't gotten any shares. Is there some way to make sure everything is configured correctly? What are the obvious first things to check?

>>57206247
>What's the onion/b32 for Dread?

http://dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad.onion

The I2P mirror still hasn't been reactivated.

>>57181546
moneromarket.io

Lads, IDK how they're keeping XMR so cheap but consider yourself lucky if you've got some now safely in your own wallet where they can't just take it. Probably some people with paper XMR on exchanges will take the hit that made this low crab possible.

>>57206674
>ready to fat

>>57186389
>Post jewish puppet quote
Opinion discarded

Do we have virtual corporations over crypto i mean where the owners are decentralized imagine a future where amazon isn't owned by bezos but by a dao

Just a question about XMR internals: If I tell someone X that I've sent money from wallet address A to wallet address B on date C, can they get any information about the same? Like can they trace if the wallet had sent any money at all on that day, even if it's obfuscated to who and the amount?

>>57207197
>consider yourself lucky
Lucky that you’re holding a piece of shit clunky antiquated scam coin that’s getting delisted on every exchange and is down 1% after 1 year?

Keep coping XMR baggies

>>57181671
fr ong

>>57202850
Monero is for all gullible dimwits. Even that scam HEX is outperforming shitero.

>>57181671
Then you’re a gullible retard who’s going to get wrecked when XMR inevitably plummets to zero.
>>57181692
BASED ANIME GIRL!!!! BUY MY CLUNKY SCAM COIN NOW ANON !!

>>57202914
The Jews aren’t scared of a scam coin that nobody uses.

Everyone on the dark web uses bitcoin still, coping faggot.

You bought into a 4chan meme, everyone point and laugh at the retard.

>>57207977
Jews should stop banning it if they aren’t so afraid, kek. Jews having got in the way of Monero was a bad idea.

>>57208054
XMR will go to zero.

It's crazy how ignorant some people in this thread are about the dark web considering its subject matter

>>57207977
>Everyone on the dark web uses bitcoin still, coping faggot.
You are the retard here. Btc is unusable because of its fees. It also offers ZERO privacy. That's why the DarkNet Markets have switched to XMR.

Glad btc found its niche, though. It is the biggest NFT chain.

XMR carries forth the ideals of digital cash.

>>57208699
would monero fees be like bitcoin if its price was as high?

>>57208699
You are the retar-ACKKK!!!!

>>57208746
much worse, as ring signatures are not only incapable of providing strong privacy but are highly inefficient at the weak privacy they provide.

papering over the poor tech with expandable blocksize bandaids just made tracing transactions cheaper for companies like chainalysis. there's no magic tech that lets you scale without either high computation costs or high storage costs.
the only solution is ephemeral data from layered storage but that isn't compatible with the very concept of altcoins long term.

>>57208699
>XMR caries forth the ideas of digital-ACKKK!!!!

>>57208784
So what you’re saying is that XMR is a pile of garbage and baggies are cucks, gotcha.

>>57208746
Price isn‘t a factor here. Usage is important which is the demand for space on the blockchain. The higher the demand, the higher are the transaction costs.

>>57208784
>as ring signatures are not only incapable of providing strong privacy
FUD
> but are highly inefficient at the weak privacy they provide.
FUD goes on.

RingSigs is only part of the tools Monero uses to provide strong privacy. Stealth Addresses protect receiver, while confidential transactions encrypt the amounts. You can't have it in btc NFT chain.

>rest of his retarded post
ignore the retard.

>>57208797
>The higher the demand, the higher are the transaction costs.
Monero has Adaptive Blocksizes, which partly allows transaction fees to become cheaper as more people transact on it.

>>57202914
jews are the enemy, therefore I don't care if normies can't comprehend that, they can also go in the trash, we don't need them

we're going to win, and I'm not going to apologize about it

>>57208788
buy high sell low

>>57208794
you don't get paid enough to sell your soul, although jews don't have souls I guess

>>57208794
its one of only 4 or 5 useful altcoins in the entire space, it's just built with fundamentally flawed technology like most things in crypto.

>>57208813
they're the entire privacy, everything else doesn't matter once you can filter out decoys by spending a few thousand dollars a month on transactions. if you can trace the output it doesn't matter if it's a black box. at least try to pretend you understand monero's threat model.

>>57208892
Full membership proofs are coming. It will nullify whatever you are babling about decoy selection stuff.

Go trade some NFTs on the btc chain.

>>57208901
Cry harder fag.

XMR is going to zero.

>>57209056
1 xmr is 1 xmr

dollar of course is going to 0 so in dollar value everything goes to 0

which other privacy coins are decent? And why is monero the best?

>>57209287
>what other privacy coins are decent
None
>Why monero?
The glowing bounty has never been claimed

>>57209188
>1 xmr is 1 xmr
that's a valid claim contrary to 1 btc = 1 btc since you'll have difficulties to spend 'tainted' sats and some people also pay a premium on 'virgin' coins which have been freshly mined.

>>57207243
>Its the joooooz!!!
Back to /pol/

>>57209501
Milei has literally stated his intention to convert to Judaism. I still like him, but /pol/ is correct on that aspect.

>>57201222
>let sex change

>>57209531
Never said he wasnt a jew lover. But if you are going to discard everything related somehow to jews then you wouldnt take part in anything at all. The main figures of libertarianism and ancap are jews themselves. Like it or not, whatever side you pick you are gonna be teaming with a jew.

>>57208901
>Full membership proofs are coming
they've been saying this for years, slower development than ethereum. at least you've admitted the current state of monero is simply insecure.

>>57209761
> at least you've admitted the current state of monero is simply insecure.
I didn't admit such a thing you cuck. Put up or shut up.

>they've been saying this for years
Last year: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vrCAiLPfXlg

----

Again, fuck off and trade your monkey jpegs on btc NFT chain.

>>57209595
Using Jews as a dismissal tactic is incoherent to begin with. For example, you have Robert Reich (Jew) saying that minimum wage laws are good and that it needs to be made higher, while David Friedman (also Jew) argues that it's going to hurt poor people and make nearly everyone worse off. So which opinion am I supposed to hold on minimum wage laws to not have the "Jewish" opinion, the side with Robert Reich on it or the side with David Friedman on it?

>>57208892
>At least try to pretend you understand moneros threat model
>Demonstrates he has no understanding of moneros threat model
It would not cost a "few thousand dollars a month" you fucking retard
Keep ip hopping you curry nigger

>>57208783
While this does decrease Moneros security, this is the result of algo switching on platforms like Monero ocean. Ironically it's a net positive for Monero because the mined Zephyr is sold immediately for Monero.
More profitable shit coins have come and gone. This is no different.

bump

>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill
You're a sad little faggot, hiding behind your lies like a scared little bitch.

>>57211250
premined bullshit coin which completely depends on plagiarizing the work of zec devs. you are a sad little bagholder, shilling your bags like a scared little bitch.

>>57207977
>Everyone on the dark web uses bitcoin still, coping faggot.
nigger have YOU tried using bitcoin lately? Enjoy your fees.

>>57211314
>Enjoy your fees.

Working as intended.

>>57209776
jfc the cringe i feel when i see that faggot wearing that dress.
Everyone is welcome to contribute but ffs wear something decent and leave your fetishes at home

is Cake Wallet the only way to receive/send XMR on iOS ?

>>57209776
Some tranny giving a talk isn't the same as having a complete, audited codebase that has full community support.

>>57212993
>Some tranny giving a talk isn't the same as having a complete, audited codebase that has full community support.

1. Not a tranny, he's the FCMP dev and he's wearing a maid costume as a gag because he's "a servant to the Monero community."

2. As he mentions, most of the work has already been done. Now its just a matter of auditing the code and switching to an appropriate elliptic curve. Could happen as soon as the Seraphis upgrade.

3. The community is 100% fully behind FCMP, the retroactive CCS was funded in record time.

4. Cope & sneed.

https://twitter.com/kayabaNerve/status/1741127200923856932

>>57211627
But… but…. The (((Lightning Network)))!

Anons how do i close a lightning channel, i am using electrum wallet (fuck this wallet), anyways i have like 57$ in my lightning channel but it doesn't allow me to close it, basically i can send like 17$ of these but there is like a base ammount where i can lose the money and i don't know what to do, how do i close this garbage

Monero just rugged. it's over

>>57213740
>tfw Monero is on sale

>>57214066
unironically what I was thinking just now. no funds though

>>57211250
if it's lies, give us the facts, then

>>57209595
>But if you are going to discard everything related somehow to jews then you wouldnt take part in anything at all
>>57209864

>mordinals
What is this Redditry? Literally why does it even exist?

>>57213646
>how do i close a lightning channel

>>57213472
I've honestly looked into trying to use this before because any time someone brings up fees to fags like Bitcoin University they're response is always "just use lightning network, bro". But it seems like such a fucking pain in the ass. From what I understand you still have to transfer BTC off of layer one to get to the lightning layer so you end up paying the high fees anyway. At that point people might as well just transfer to XMR for use. Shit makes no sense.

>>57215478
>Bitcoin University
Judging by the amount of anti Monero videos he makes, must be a paid shill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTHCwU9rUdY