/biz/ - Business & Finance

fuck you all kys

I am financially bored.

>>57185815
qrd on how its over?

I hope AMZN takes a big -50% in the next few months, I need an easy dip to buy.

SOXL gap up to 30 tommorow to rape put buyers, non-farms and unemployment will bring back rate cut euphoria

>TLT
WTF bond bros we are supposed always go up

CHINA
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>>57185857
Maybe, this sell off looks to have fully leveled out. We'll see what happens by 2PM tomorrow afternoon.

>>57185861
This run's been exhausted. What, you think a government at 122% debt-to-GDP can reasonably borrow at 3.75%? Really?

>>57185863
>CHINA

>>57185882
I'd argue that bonds are still at negative real yields.

>>57185867
>by 2PM tomorrow afternoon
When is the jobs data drop tomorrow? I'm too lazy to check myself

>>57185901
This isn't like COVID. But imagine what happens when the government applies that level of autism to the elimination of Bobos and making line go up.

>>57185882
so that means government will tell Powell gently that he needs to aggressively cut to make Muni-bonds affordable to Blue Cities...

>QE is back baby!

>>57185882
>What, you think a government at 122% debt-to-GDP can reasonably borrow at 3.75%? Really?
Anything is possible goy

>>57185927
Maybe. Or maybe Powell doubles down on QT once he sees the Trump/Biden polling results.

Hell, maybe he has the PPT boys market sell the entire portfolio in October.

>>57185924
What are the best china plays? BABA? Tencent? What else? Is there a broad china ETF for us westerners?

>>57185915
Same time as usual; one hour before open on the first Friday of the Month desu

https://tradingeconomics.com/calendar

>>57185842
it's over for MARA shorts I guess

>>57185946
We're already still doing QT. Fed Funds Rate is separate from QT/QE (direct liquidity injection). So far QT has stopped effecting the markets since Silicon Valley Bank imploded. Reverse Repo continues to decrease so Big Banks have been injecting liquidity into the Bond/Stock market in lieu of the Fed.

>>57185946
>Hell, maybe he has the PPT boys market sell the entire portfolio in October
In your dreams chud

>>57185973
The best China play has been PDD (Pinduoduo, which owns Temu).

Levered ETFs: CWEB, YINN (Bull), YANG (Bear)

>>57185915
Oh we got some data dropping eh, I sneed to keep track of this stuff closer, this will surely dictate the track then.

>>57185882
The government isn't spending the money productively so growth and inflation expectations are low.

>>57185986
Algos like new data, it feeds them

>>57185842
I think anon means his cup runneth over and everything’s cool.

>>57185984
Will look into these thanks anon

>voo down 0.32%
my honest reaction

So it’s time to short pdddddddd

>>57185909
the market is pricing in lower inflation than what we took to get here
meanwhile in reality we are spending more on bond yield payments than the entirety of our military budget
lol
lmao even

>>57186004
Yup, the market is no longer natural or normal.

i am financially stable

>>57185973
BABA, Tencent, Ping An Insurance are prolly the best and there's JingDong if you're interested.

>>57185815
where did the bloomberg links go?
i want to watch normie tv

>>57185983
Imagine the (October) surprise.

>>57186051
You want some fuckery, IWC, MDY, and IWM are all down exactly 0.20%

>>57186070
Exactly. Pure insanity. The 2% inflation target is now a 2% inflation floor.
Even if we have a period where inflation settles more comfortably around 2%, its inevitable that we'll eventually experience another spike like the past 2 years. When you average the spikes and the valleys, the number is clearly closer to 3%. Likely worse heading forward.

And that's just consumer goods inflation. Money supply is growing faster than that, offset by population growth and tech progress. Other limited quantity assets see long-term growth due to these passive sources of gains. Not bonds. Bonds are priced in dollars, regardless of how many dollars get printed. Even TIPS fare only slightly better, as that CPI value gets manipulated to pretend things are better than they are.
Luckily, those of us who understand these basic concepts get to live for free at the expense of all those wagecucks that rent away their lives to the ponzi.

Oh yeah, and here are today's benchmarks:
>BOIL: 8.84%
>CCJ: 2.72%
>/HE: 5.63%
>KWEB: -1.17%
>MARA: 12.10%
>SOXL: -2.55%
>TMF: -4.54%
>TQQQ: -1.67%
>TSLA: -0.22%
>XXXX: -1.25%

How many did (You) beat?

>>57186208
>today's benchmarks
>How many did (You) beat?
This might be up there with 0DTE options.

Mara, baby.

>>57185842
The crabbening has just begun.

>OpenAI is launching its GPT store next week, per Information.
What's it going to sell? English class essays?

Incel here who knows nothing about anything.

I inherited $50K and I don't really need the money any time soon, should I just throw them in an index fund tomorrow and wait 20 years?

>>57186312
In Canada, GICs are really good for something like that. 50K in a GIC for 20 years would probably quadruple it.

>>57186309
Bots/Versions
They are super useful, but I don't see a market for them really. Getting one tailored to your needs is very easy and takes like 3 minutes. I use them all the time for different stuff.

>>57186331
Thanks, I'll look into that

Oh yeah CQG had an outage this morning. I wonder if that was the cause of any of today's redness.

What led to the decline of Japanese electronics brands like Sony, Sharp, JVC, Toshiba, Fujitsu, NEC, Panasonic, Pioneer etc?

Complacency
Competition
Conservatism
Cockamamie Business Decisions
Cupertino.

OK. You are asking about the decline of the Japanese consumer electronics industry along with the decline of its mass-production semiconductor industry.

So in line with the five “C” s I have mentioned above, let me start with complacency. With the exception of Fujitsu and NEC, most of the names you mention were mainly consumer electronics players, with Sony and Panasonic (formerly known as Matsushita) as the chief rivals at the top of the pecking order.

They had gotten rich by perfecting the mass production and global distribution of TV sets at a time when US companies like RCA were their main rivals in the only market that really mattered at the time, the US.

Sony and Panasonic then developed the VHS and Beta video-tape recording formats and sold zillions of them to go with all the TV sets they had also sold. American appliance stores were eager to get all their latest models with all the fancy bells and whistles. That VHS ultimately won over Sony’s Beta is less important than the fact competition was heating up, but complacency made these companies focus on what had worked in the past.

>>57186312
VOO and chill. It'll be somewhere between 330k and 480k in 20 years.

>>57186376
Sony also fumbled the computer disk storage battle, despite having replaced the clumsy 5″ floppy disk with the nifty hard-case 3.5″ version.

Along with video-recorders, Sony and Panasonic also got a jump start on handheld video cameras (as both had world-class studio-grade professional equipment lines).

Competition as we all know came from a smaller country called Korea that had an incredibly intensely driven company called Samsung (which means 3 Stars), a company that would increasingly take market share from the leading Japanese (as well as its chipmakers) by perfecting high-yield mass-production skills based on Japanese predecessors.

Samsung was so good it turned out to be the only credible competitor to Apple in the handset and now smartphone business. One by one all those Japanese companies had to get out of phones, or downsize or merge (Sony-Eriksson comes to mind) but with its powerful and dedicated made-in-Korea strategy Samsung stayed in the ring to duke it out with Apple.

Conservatism is a creed in almost EVERY Japanese boardroom, it is just harder to innovate when you have a golden past lined with former glory - and those “winning-team” senior managers still in place at the top, despite their missing out on new tech and market trends. Sometimes befuddled managers had to resort to money-games and clever financing tricks that in the case of camera-maker Olympus came back to haunt them (though Olympus has a great endoscope medical optics business as well.)

Cockamamie decisions are well illustrated by the insistence by all the main flat-screen display (ie. those big LED TVs we all have now) makers to build vast factories inside of Japan leading up to 2011 when the government had decreed that all conventional (cathode-ray, non-digital) broadcasts would end in July, forcing EVERY household to buy 1 or several new flat-screen TVs for their homes. I bought one 42″ for my son and a 56″ for home - and we still use them.

>>57186386
But when the deadline came EVERYONE had bought new TVs and would be unlikely to buy new ones for several years into the future, yet Sharp (in particular) doubled down on its bets at its Kansai-area “Kameyama” plants, bragging of having 100% Made-in-Japan products. But oops, there was no more demand for TVs and made-on-the-moon would have been as empty a promise.

Where does Cupertino come in?

That is the Silicon Valley hot-spot where Apple was born and now thrives, created by Woz and Jobs, two great California entrepreneurial pioneers.

Steve Jobs got kicked out of his company for a time, and during that time got to know Hollywood and the SoCal music industry, so when he returned he was a different man altogether, savvy to music, contracts, distribution etc, as well as savvy to the Hollywood studio circuit having ridden the Toy Story series to massive success.

But by his re-tooling of the iPod (invented by Sony as the Walkman), then iTunes, then the iPhone, Steve destroyed many other business models, including that of Sony, Nokia, even Nintendo. Who wanted to have a Sony CD earphone music player (or MP4) when you could download songs one at a time for $0.99 without going to the record store?

Then came the iPhone and huge damage to the Sony digital camera (invented by Sony as the Mavica) business. Who wants to have a Sony point-and-shoot camera when you could take the same or better pictures with the iPhone. (OK, so Sony bought the Konica-Minolta camera business and has an OK high-end prosumer business competing with the Big Boys (Canon/Nikon) as well as Fuji Film, Olympus and Ricoh-Pentax. As with car makers, Japan has too many by 50%.

So I'm learning about the different options trading strategies and I just want some clarification on the relationship between the different strats and the greeks
So I know you generally want to buy low volatility unless you know a stock is heavily under/over valued, but would you use delta to measure whether you should do something like an Iron Butterfly or a basic Covered Call/Put?
So basically using delta and gamma somewhat to predict if the stock will crab or move in a specific direction

>>57186392
That pretty much sums up this self-engineered financial tragedy. Sony has morphed into making movies, and making the best digital imaging systems around, sold to Samsung and Apple. Panasonic makes batteries for Tesla.

Peter Fuchs © 2018

Photos: Sony founder Akio Morita with his new Mavica and WalkMan (below). I met Morita a couple of times, in Tokyo and in Boston. A visionary, but not as lucky as Jobs to get fired and cast into the wilderness, and THEN come back all the wiser and more succesful. Morita and Jobs both owned Hollywood Studios, Sony Pictures and Pixar. Which was the more successful? The latter I think, as Steve sold it to Disney for more than $6bn to focus on the Apple miracle, part 2.0

I CAME OUT AND MY SHIT WAS GONE!

>panic sold MARA at $20 yesterday

>>57186406
>he sold

>>57186378
Does it really matter much which of these index funds I choose, when they've all got like 200 of the biggest companies?

>>57186238
I trade 0dte with spy, ama lol

Can someone explain to me why women look like they've been hit by a truck after 30 years of age? Pic related, How does this even happen?

>>57186453
Drinking + weight gain.

>>57186435
that bullshit analyst saying BTC ETF will be denies coupled with BTC going 41k made me sell and now I lost out on at least 1k of profit

Who are these niggers that post on stocktwits? Isn't /smg/ more comfy?

>>57186453
She answered the call.

>>57186440
Sort of, you pay income tax on dividends in a taxable brokerage account. For holding like you want to, especially assuming it's in such an account, you want an index that's relatively light on dividend yield.

>>57186472
>BTC ETF will be denies coupled with BTC going 41k
Picrel
>now I lost out on at least 1k of profit
Niggaz get shot every day b. You'll be aight nigga, you tough right?

>>57186492
>you want an index that's relatively light on dividend yield.
Would you consider SPY a light div yield?

>>57186453
Skill issue. If you live in a large city there are a fuckload of attractive women at all ages.

>>57186453
Most of them are habitually bad decision makers because every decision they make is based on their current emotional state which fluctuates moment to moment based on their immediate surroundings and even just what they're thinking about at the time. The end result there is that they end up doing shit like chopping off their tits or getting horrible hair cuts or bad plastic surgery.

Also, because women don't really need to do anything to attain companionship, they have little to no drive to take an interest in hobbies (most hobbies women have they have because a previous guy they were fucking imprinted those hobbies on them), they have no motivation for self-improvement, or anything like that. The end result is they get fat, look like shit, and generally just let themselves go.

I think my HELFY situation is......fixed?
Idk, I chatted with someone today who did some stuff in the backend. Seems like like the gift cards are added correctly now and my subscription is active again. It says the next food box will be free. Guess I'll find out if they charge my credit card or not... lol
I still would not recommend investing in HELFY. They seem to have decent logistics operations, but their software systems are fucked.

>I don't give a fuck if I go blind, I don't need to see the pricetag anyway

>>57186541
I've been watching all four of these on repeat for the last few days, please send help

>>57186539
Based ground level analysis investor.

>>57186522
>If you live in a large city there are a fuckload of attractive women at all ages.
Sure, but most of the attractive ones (like 90%) are younger than 25.

>>57186521
Yeah under 1.5% is fine. Are you actually going to take advantage of the options, though? If not, you're basically just buying voo but with a higher expense ratio.

>>57186539
>It says the next food box will be free
So they're giving you a free food box because they fucked up or what?

>>57186571
>Are you actually going to take advantage of the options, though?
Absolutely yes, whether I will profit on said options is another matter. But I will be using them

>>57186576
No it's free because I have gift cards. They still make you put in a credit card to use them though... so I could theoretically get charged
They didn't really have a good explanation for why my subscription was auto-cancelled. They said it happens sometimes when gift cards are used... but also coincidentally happened on January 1st... idk. As a software engineer myself, I can somewhat imagine how bad their code looks

>>57186469
>>57186534
Makes sense.

>>57186539
>They seem to have decent logistics operations
The bare minimum you would need to successfully deliver perishable food kits is a solid grasp of logistics. That's not even a feat, if they didn't have it they would not exist kek

>>57186453
According to legend:
>The Twin Princes of Bogdanoff left a coven of daughters.
>They are fragments of the twins' souls that have coalesced and taken on new forms.
>Each represents a fragment of the twins' desire to profit and corrupt.
>”Our twin fathers were only the first step. We are the ascent.”
>”Hear our call.”

>>57186592
Well, what I mean is they have a built-out logistics operation. I checked, and there's a distribution center near my city, so they do the deliveries themselves rather than using FedEx/UPS/USPS. The shipping label on my box says "HFDN" as the carrier, which I assume is "Hello Fresh Delivery Network" or something. Strangely... the return address is to Phoenix though... which is NOT where I live... so that's weird.

>>57186440
You want one with the lowest fees. VOO or SWPPX are pretty good. Taxes don't really mean much (stocks/funds held over 1 year are subject to less tax) till your investment/dividend income grows to some fuck huge amount. Also certain things can lower/offset the tax hit. Capital loss - You sell stock for loss of 1500. That 1500 can be used as a tax write off. 401k contributions in a given year are not taxable and as such lowers your taxable income. So say your income for the year is 60k. You dump 5000 a year in 401k. You also have 1500 capital loss. Your taxable income is 53,500. Also such a thing as cap loss carryover. You sell stock for loss of 8k. You now get a tax write off for 5.3 years. 8k/1.5. Till the loss is gone. Any further losses merely extends it out.

>>57186588
>>57186592
I mean even though It's somewhat shit , it's hard to argue that it's incredibly oversold, and It does cater to a specific group of people that are health conscious, but haven't the time to shop, learn and cook different recipes.

>>57186587
Sounds like spy is a good choice for you, then. Look into spyg as well, even lower divvies, more growth focused.

this weeks edition of
>can't say they aren't doing it

>>57186614
Yeah I don't think those slow, unreliable niggers could possibly meet Hello Fresh's needs.

>>57186309
CHGG's chart over the past year proves the adage "cheaters never prosper".

>>57186622

>>57186598
They hit the wall at 200km/h.

>>57186539
I've tried Hello Fresh kits a couple of times (because they misdelivered my neighbor's shipment to me and I didn't bother taking it over to him because he's a dickhead). The meals and recipes were pretty good. Can't see myself ever paying for it though.

isn't the BTFP facility supposed to be closed this March?
it's been printing new highs since a few weeks now.

>>57186622
>From the left pocket into the right.

>>57186481
It is, but if you talk about a particular ticker or want to say "WTFWT" about something other than SPY Computer, there'll only ever be one or two /smg/gers you can banter with.

>>57186655
The reversal in yields means we'll probably see BTFP crab or even drop, then get canceled.

>>57186662
Lol Calvinball.

>>57186678
>then get canceled.
Anon... I.

>>57186662
if I'm not mistaken the BTFP is included in the Total Assets chart so the Fed balance sheet is still declining overall.

>>57186701
Anon, Powell's not going to keep printing money for banks that clearly don't need it. That's an express train to burning political capital.

>>57186678
>then get canceled.
Anon... I.

MARA $30 tomorrow
wish i had bought OTM

>>57186711
Had to delete cause r*ddit was mentioned in the image. Also WDYM regional banks need the money otherwise they'd blow up selling their bonds at losses.

>>57186707
>the Fed balance sheet is still declining overall.
The fact that yields aren't rising with this labor market and the sheer amount of bond issuances, is somewhat interesting in the least....

>>57186721
"Hold to maturity" gets fixed as banks hold to maturity. They have enough deposits to avoid runs thanks to BTFP, cash out their 1% bonds at par, then reinvest into 4% ones.

So yes, KRE was on the verge of collapse from the dynamic you mention but that was only ever a temporary problem.

We're so back!

>>57186735
this is what I believe is going on

>>57186753
>They have enough deposits to avoid runs thanks to BTFP, cash out their 1% bonds at par, then reinvest into 4% ones.
until March... supposedly

Kek I see fear is beginning to set in with the mumoids. Shouldn't have danced.

>>57186768
...when they will no longer need it. Because they'll have 4% bonds they can liquidate into a 4% bond market.

Trust me, anon, there's other things to pay attention to. And the market would go max schizo if Powell *didn't* wind it down at this point.

>>57186762
That cap is wrong. QT's tied to RRP, FFR's tied to inflation.

Die. Jews

>>57186762
TLT baggies need to go back to being baggies. The government is spending too much and the FED isn't buying the bonds. This is a recipe for higher interest rates, as long as the labor market is hot which it is at the present time.

>>57185882
If yields go down, TLT goes up anon...

>>57186785
bottoms in when i see posts like this

>>57186785
>>57186805
The crab has arrived when I see these sorts of posts.

>>57186798
Yeah, anon, but notice that TLT has stopped going up the past couple days. We could be seeing the first innings of its reversal (TLT down, yields back to a fair borrowing rate in the 4's and 5's)

>>57186788
>Because they'll have 4% bonds they can liquidate into a 4% bond market.
At least one of us has a fundamental misunderstanding of bonds, yields and trading.
>>57186788
>That cap is wrong. QT's tied to RRP, FFR's tied to inflation.
You are making no sense at all.

>>57186788
I thought the BTFP only took bonds as collateral and lent money against them at par. So after a year the banks get the same 1% interest rate bonds and have to pay back the FED.

>>57186805
Watching mumoids cope and sneed and dilate after flexing for 1 year is going to be truly funny.
We're not even started yet, mumoid. The fear comes later (rate cuts).

>>57186828
That anon is very likely to have misunderstood a few things.

>>57186797
>labor market is hot
It's not hot. It's coming in within expectations. Let's see what happens after seasonal adjustments around March.

>>57186848
very likely to print yet another all-time-record-high tomorrow.

So when do I start buying QQQ?

>>57186768
>March
I love seeing March mentioned. March is when it happens.
That's also when the first rate cut is priced in.

>>57186848
>It's not hot.
Unemployment rate is sitting at 3.7% for a year now, when FED funds were at 0%.

>>57186858
When you can afford to

>>57186860
There will be no recession.

>>57186866
>FED funds were at 0%.
Um lol wut
We have retard newfags piling into /smg/ suddenly who don't know wtf they're talking about
Good. Another top signal

I HATE EDGAR so much. I don't care if it is free it's a mess.

You faggets didn't tell me of I wheeled SHOT, I would develop the strain of covid where you puke everything up, even the stuff without alcohol, and then have to explosive diarrhea onto the puke, with body aches and chills. You could have fucking warned me. Assholes.

>>57186885
stfu

>>57186873
>It screenshots it's own posts
Damn. Are we going to have this shit until March?
I guess it's at least good that baggot doesn't post as much these days. And many other namefags left. Scoops should have stayed gone too.

is Africa the most underestimated emerging market? Why aren't you investing in NIG?

>>57186825
>>57186828
>So after a year the banks get the same 1% interest rate bonds and have to pay back the FED.
The bonds they get back...have matured at that point.

>1% bond is worth $95 because rape hikes
>Customers demand $100, oh shit bank run
>BTFP lends bank $100 for $95 bond
>Customers redeposit money when they realize the run was retarded
>1 year later
>Bond matures, bank pays off $100 BTFP loan with $100 in cash from matured bond (minus interest)
>Bank also reinvests $100 in customer deposits in 4% bonds that aren't underwater

>>57186825
>You are making no sense at all.
The Fed manages reserves in the banking system via QT, QE, and the RRP. The only way they'll restart QE like the schizo screencap alleges is if the RRP gets drawn down, they stop QT, and there's a banking crisis from too few reserves in the system.

What they'll *actually* do over this coming year is cut the Fed Funds Rate. Because 5% is loose policy with 10% inflation, reasonable policy with 5% inflation, and restrictive policy with 3% inflation.

>>57186878
>Um lol wut
In 2022 when the FED funds was at 0% the unemployment rate was 3.7%, fast forward to today the fed funds is 5.33% and the unemployment rate is 3.7%. Is that clear enough to you that the labor market is hot?

>>57186917
>The bonds they get back...have matured at that point.
Ha ha, funny guy. A 10y bond matures in a year didn't know that.

>>57186852
Dumping more illegals into the country isn't the best metric for labor market strength or weakness. You'll want to look at shit like wage growth, jobless claims, and U6.

>>57186890
Jay Powell is going to cut rates to help Joe Bidens reelection since he knows Trump will fire his ass for fucking up.

>>57186241
>evolve
>eat shit
For what purpose?

>>57186897
seethe

>>57186920
>In 2022 when the FED funds was at 0% the unemployment rate was 3.7%
Anon, are you aware of anything that might've affected the labor market in the year or two before that point?

>>57186909
You might be the smartest dumb anon.
No mumoid here will ever dare to discuss *collapsing* birthrates and what that means for the future of the shit and piss.
The world is going to have drastically less demand in the imminent future.
Smart kike faggots on bloomkike and cnbkike are always talking about this because they know it's the biggest macro trend of all.
When no one needs these dumb companies as much they will cease to exist.
In a way the kikes played themselves by injecting feminism everywhere.
Their future slave cohort isn't going to be born.

>>57186917
>The bonds they get back...have matured at that point.
[citation needed]
will not read further if this remains unanswered

>>57186909
If you don't invest in Africa Oil Corp, you're a racist.

>>57186932
>This data isn't genuine. Look at this other data.
>The data comes from the same source.

>>57186929
If a bank bought them 9 years ago during ZIRP... yeah. Honestly, where did you people wander in from? We went over this shit last March.

>>57186943
Coof was in 2020. I was alluding to the labor market in 2022.

>>57186946
counterpoint: we do still have all the bombs, so we can always helicopter abduct and drop as many niggers as we want into the USA to be those slaves instead and nobody can stop us.

I will never financially recover from my LLAP position, I almost NEVER listen to biz but that LLAP fucker got me.

>>57186920
Can you type coherently next time if you want people to get your point
Also giving a single data point from 2022 and using that to extrapolate for now , well okay lol

>>57186958
Nah, my point is even if a labor market is officially weakening, you could see Employment Level keep upticking (through population growth, second jobs, etc).

>>57186936
as if it's within the might of a us president to hire/fire Fed personnel

>>57186969
Yes, the 2022 labor market was tightening (unemployment rate go down). The 2024 labor market is loosening (unemployment rate go up).

>>57186979
>second jobs
This. There are all sorts of reasons why employment alone doesn't mean everything.
GDI is probably a better indicator of how healthy the economy is, also manufacturing PMI and Chinese PMIs. China is getting badly fucked rn

>>57186967
>If a bank bought them 9 years ago during ZIRP... yeah.
I mean not really every fixed rate loan bought since 2008 that hasn't matured was underwater two months ago. And banks do a lot of long term lending and some of those loans they keep on their balance sheet.

>>57187019
Yes and not every bank was maxing out BTFP lending every second since its inception. It's only lately that the (((yield curve))) allows such fuckery.

>>57187010
>China is getting badly fucked rn
What's interesting about China is that retail and services sectors are doing really well. Manufacturing should catch up with all the stimulus programs from the CCP.

>>57185815
How'd everyone's day go?

>>57187032
down by $112.88, pretty much nothing happened.
Yet.

>>57187032
I didnt look

>>57185909
How?
The CPI is lower than 10y now
That's still shit yield but not negative

>>57187031
China is turning into a service economy just like the US has.
Africa is going to be the new manufacturing base for China.
>inb4 but niggers are incompetent
Chinks will zergrush the continent and drop all their undesirables off there as well. China will have enough non-dumb worker bees in Africa eventually.

>>57187032
>>57187044
>>57187046
psy-op
same pattern as yesterday
>inb4 schizo moment

>>57187028
I don't think It's going to be all sunshine and roses for banks once the BTFP ends. Seems impossible for them to fix their balance sheets while the FED is doing QE the bond market is illiquid.

>>57187058
Or it could just be the same person who's posting.

Picrel my returns on for the week.

Fucking sucks.

>>57187049
You still need the undesirables because, like white people in the US found out, they breed more frequently; you need them to keep the ethnic demographics from changing.

>>57187049
>Africa is going to be the new manufacturing base for China.
Yeah you need a revolution in Africa for that to happen. The continent literally manufactures nothing, It only exports natural resources and people.

>>57187049
>China will have enough non-dumb worker bees in Africa eventually.
I do agree that niggers have a storm coming the likes of which they do not yet understand. They managed to make the whites run back to their civilization because we aren't emotionally equipped to deal with 9 year olds wielding assault rifles. We just said fuck it you can have your little dirt hole, then they destroyed the infrastructure we made for them and returned to living in mud. Chinks are soulless bugs, they will mow down any number of child soldiers that stand in their way as they capitalize on Africa, and feel nothing. Africa doesn't even stand a chance.

But, will we really see Africa turn into a bustling hub of manufacturing in our lifetime? I'd say no. So investing on it for yourself is pointless. If you want to buy chink stocks for your children or grandchildren though, maybe a good play.

>>57187074
Pretty much the same Westerners thought about China once lol

>>57187084
great post
screencapped

>>57187084
>Chinks are soulless bugs, they will mow down any number of child soldiers that stand in their way as they capitalize on Africa, and feel nothing. Africa doesn't even stand a chance.

>>57187031
Based on what data?
Their manu PMI came in at 49.
Winnie the Pooh just came out and admitted their economy is fucked.
Also when I hear retail is doing good recently I just think that means people are so stretched by inflation that they're spending more out of pure necessity just on the essentials. Not a good sign.

>>57187084
Based take.
>>57187087
My point exactly, I'm waiting for a Revolution in Africa in the next decade, either it's going to happen or the population in Africa will start declining because It's unsustainable. Would be a good time to move to Africa once they start making Toyotas there lol..

>>57187084
shit post
not screencapped

Also Chinas demographics mean it is going to collapse sooner than the West kek
Imagine betting on anything other than Chinas destruction.
Why do you think xi isn't going straight into Taiwan like he keeps threatening?
He knows his time is up.

What's the fastest way to retire early WITHOUT getting into shitcoins? Super high leverage?

>>57187107
No the retail and services sector is going good because Chinks were locked down up until a few months ago, and the property market is in the shitter so they're not buying homes, they're buying: consumer products, traveling, eating out etc...

>>57187132
>Super high leverage?
Yes. 100x your entire holdings if you're cool like us.

>>57185840
kek

>>57185815
WAAAAAAAHHH

>>57186472
You'll be alright. Jump right back in. We're going to 40.

>>57187132
gambling in the Penny stock arcade or getting FDA insider info so you can just slam dunk every small cap pharma trade?

>>57186975
?????

>>57187192
instructions unclear

>>57186472
funny how the ANALysts sh!ted on QS yesterday before the battery news today that mooned it 43%.

>>57187199
MARA is life itself

What happened with LLAP?

How will Mara and bitcoin react to the etf approval, I'm scared

>>57187293
Will we be pumping until the 8th?

>>57187293
M8 you're about to get giga-rugpulled

>>57187293
Well MARA's fundamentally a business that breaks even or loses maybe $1/share every quarter. Their saving graces are: hypebux bidding up their shares (allowing dilution) and carrying BTC on their balance sheet.

So if there's no new hype (the halvening isn't until April) and capital can switch to any number of actual BTC ETFs in order to hold BTC...

>>57187293
The opposite of what makes sense.
>pump in advance
>sell the news
>pump higher instead

>>57187280
Kek
Fuck off you namefag nobody
Imagine listening to this general about some space company lmfaooooo

>>57187313
why is an etf bad?

>>57187313
Lmao fug

>>57187293
sell the news

>>57187323
Ffs , we're really full of new atm
Nothing is inherently wrong with ETFs
Just that one specifically.

>>57187349
sorry for being new, i just dont know how an etf can hurt the price of something
either people buy it and it goes up
or nobody buys it and it has no effect
...right?

>>57187315
So miners and coinbase get rugged in favor of the btc etfs and btc itself gets rugged because everyone's already bought in etf speculation fashion. Volatility I can count on at least

>>57187047
There’s no money in the system, not enough collateral either.

>>57187354
Yes. But that said, we don't know the Boomer inflows into the ETFs until they actually happen. Nor do we know exactly how many people are going to bail upon ETF approval, or when BTC hits 40k, or 35k, etc.

>>57187322
? I'm still holding.

I'm tired of being a bear. The happening is never coming.

soxlsisters, what rope should I buy???

>>57187385
People said I never make it
I'd never see it through
But they don't know what keeps me going
I guess they never have met you
Oh, my life was in shambles
'Til the day you came along
Turned my tears into laughter
You gave me a brand-new song

I'm still holding on
Lord, I'll never let you go
You gave me a smile
You touched my heart, you touched my soul
And the bridges that's behind me
Lord, I burn them to the ground
I'm still holding on
You're the best thing I ever found

>>57187411
The first step to recovery is accepting that you have a problem.
Come friend, join the land of the living.

>>57187355
.......... lol nah

>>57187355
>how can increasing supply lower the price of something
go back to school

>>57187443
You can't just increase the supply of bitcoin at will though? I thought that was the whole fucking point. Limited supply just means if everyone buys the etf btc goes up. Or so I thought.

>>57186453
In a refusal to age gracefully and show some class they overdo pointless surgery’s and procedures and wind up looking like plastic dolls that have no souls. The sad thing is they still get outdone by younger women who then in turn repeat the same mistakes

>futures

>>57186539
Would it be more profitable to become an affiliate than to own the stock?

>futures

>>57186885
What the hell are you talking about retard?

>>57186909
You can never over underestimate nogs.

i must be not understanding what this etf is. I thought it was something that represents owning btc among other things. But the way people talk about it seems to be an alternative to holding btc? I should just google this.

>>57187422
Love my LLAP bros full homo

>>57187448
I am pretty sure bitcoin futures are synthetic, and I would imagine that the ETFs are probably basing themselves on the future contracts. Meaning no actual coins will be exchanged if you invest in the ETF. But it would be worth reading the prospectus to find out.

>>57186909
niggers aren't doing anything

>>57187117
Their state media did have a good point.

>>57187509
I see. Well, couldn't it at least act as good advertising for btc and have more people just go out and buy the coin itself?

>>57187427
hell yeah dude

>>57187548
why would anyone buy btc when they can buy the etf

Give me a good stock tip

>>57187509
>I am pretty sure bitcoin futures are synthetic
Yes. And expensive.

>I would imagine that the ETFs are probably basing themselves on the future contracts.
You *are* imagining that fact. BITO is already approved as a Bitcoin futures ETF. This wave of approvals are *spot* ETFs.

>>57187600
Short ZIM. It's an Israeli shipping company and has only pumped because Biden's bitched out in the Red Sea. Once he sees what that does to inflation, he'll nuke the Houthis into the ground.

>>57187619
oh wow.
No wonder the SEC is up their own butts about it

>>57187638
Yeah, one part of Grayscale's lawsuit over converting their Bitcoin trust to an ETF was the SEC bitching "BTC's price is manipulated!"

Except by that logic, that means they should've shut down Bitcoin *futures* trading as well.

>>57187572
The whole selling point of BTC is that it's like a currency that is quantity limited, like gold. It cannot be manipulated and printed freely by jews. If there is no custodianship of BTC backing this ETF like there is with stocks, how the fuck is it even a thing? it's just paper with BTC logo printed on it. So if I understand correctly the real fear here is that normalniggers won't understand and will just buy the ETF instead of BTC thinking it's the same thing?

And what happens if the company issuing this ETF goes under or decides otherwise to dissolve it? There's nothing to liquidate by the sound of it. Do people literally just get rug pulled?

>>57187482
Sure if you can get an audience. I dare you to start adding affiliate codes to end of your /smg/ posts

>>57187634
Also ZIM is literally bleeding money.

>>57187572
Everyone needs a jew or two between them and their money.

>>57187755
convenience is king and jews are willing liquidity providers for a fee

Im gonna im gonnaaa pppuuuuummmmpppppp

>futures

>>57187660
The entire point of a blockchain (Monero excepted) is that you can see every balance and wallet. Including how many BTC are in Blackrock's designated ETF wallet or whatever. To say nothing of the SEC monitoring it the same as any other ETF (does your VOO actually own enough AAPL shares?)

GLD and paper silver in Jew vaults this ain't.

Do you think it's possible to ever make back all my losses? I'm down about $40k over 2 years

>>57187819
Well, this would be pertinent except it seems this ETF has nothing to do with BTC and everything to do with BTC futures which may as well be a pile of cow shit for all the use it is... I will never buy debt.

>>57187896
Absolutely! My mom made 100k in 10 months.

>China bros.
What the fuck is this market open, It's unequivocally over for us.

Another day. Got my annual performance review for last year. The whole affair took uh 5 minutes. Was literately this: "Boss; Your getting the same score you got last year". "Me; ok". My score last year and uh pretty much since I started in 2005 has always been a 5. Goes from 1-5 scale. 1 being your a fuck up. I get two extra vacation days now. Also on tap if they pass it, to get a 17% pay hike by 2025. 13% this July with the rest in July 2025.

>>57187919
That shit is so weird. why is it all straight lines left/right/up/down? Why aren't there gentle slopes and curves like US markets? It's robotic, like the chinks themselves.

>>57187922
America's finest news

>>57187921
Man I miss working in government.

>>57187904
>this ETF has nothing to do with BTC and everything to do with BTC futures
Anon, that's BITO. Which was approved years ago.

The ETFs getting approved this month are 1:1 with actual BTC. That's what "spot" means.

>>57187953
>The ETFs getting approved this month are 1:1 with actual BTC.
Okay then how do normalnigs buying the ETF do anything except pump the price of BTC? They can't arbitrarily increase the supply of BTC so it's limited. This anon's post is now confuses me. >>57187443

>>57187945
>It's robotic
I think It's less liquid because it only trades in lots, and to buy stock in some companies the minimum you can invest can be like $5000-10000$ like Ping An Insurance right now.

>>57187978
Because for the past several months, non-Boomers (people with Coinbase or, hell, Robinhood accounts) have been buying $X billion worth of BTC in anticipation of the ETFs.

Many of them may have better stuff to invest in once the ETF is approved and explicitly plan to dump their bags on Boomers who'll buy through the ETFs.

Call the Boomer inflows $Y billion. If $X < $Y, the price goes down post-approval.

>>57188009
*$X > $Y
Basically if people bid up a ton on ETF hype while only a few Boomers and their wealth managers allocate to IBTC, then we could see a dump this month.

>>57188018
Yeah that sounds like it could go either way.

>>57187978
>>57188009
I believe the better questions would be something like
>what/how much will the bitcoin spot ETFs required to hold on their books?
>price/shares outstanding.
Afterall, the fund managers have/had to acquire "physical" BTC - and probably loads of it - prior to the launch of the ETFs.
If there would be huge inflow of cash into the ETFs I too wonder if crypto exchange volume and liquidity would still dictate price and not the other way round.
or another question: how many bitcoins will be held off the exchanges by those ETFs in the beginning.
picrealted are the holdings of BITO. it's probably easier for them to manage since they don't hold any "physical" bitcoin at all. just futures that can be bought and sold before expiry. they most likely just roll out of one month into the next, never exercised, never delivered.

>>57187049
Africa will come after the pacific islands and Mexico.

should i be worried that my pennyscam's ceo interviews with a youtuber who has 224 subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IwHK5t9-co

Why hasn't oil gone to the moon yet? We're literally about to run out.

>>57188286
>We're literally about to run out.
???

>>57186819
I HATE YOU

>>57188286
ackshually the only reason oil hasn't collapsed on U.S. retard production is that I sold

>>57188328
Smaller oils pumping more in order to make themselves more attractive acquisition targets was just such a retarded way for things to go, countering all this geopolitical instability n shit. Still mad.

>>57185861
your pool looks boring. join us instead

>>57186909
I can tell you a tale of africa long past. in the beginning we gave money and the economy crashed.
then we gave food
and the farms crashed
then we gave grain
and the grain collapsed
then we gave knowledge of farming
and animals came and ate the food
then we gave fencing and the elephants alone could pass
the elephants were shot
and the pachyderms were the main drivers of seed and the destruction of soil mold
the mold overhelmed the grass and the grass died leaving the soil open to the sun.
where once was thriving topsoil became desert
and the farms were consumed by the sand.

>>57188382
Those dudes look so much better than their "company" I have to assume they were paid to be there.

But the number of times I have seen a black dude with a hambeast makes me doubt.

>>57188069
A lot of these ETFs will probably attempt to copy how Gold ETFs are backed by paper/futures contracts rather than physical gold even though the SEC filings list Coinbase as the custodian for these bitcoin ETFs.

>>57188392
chinese culture has indeed very nice stories

>>57187922
Sorry, stylish old grey fox who is likely successful in ways that I can only imagine.
I only get my investing advice from schizo trannies who larp as anime girls.

>>57187819
>>57187904
>>57187953
>>57187978
>>57188009
>>57188069
>>57188407
I should add that pricing is going to be a really big issue for a *Spot* Bitcoin ETF. These ETFs are going to have pretty big share prices which means less volume which means less liquidity unless they want to price it so that 1000 shares adds up to a Bitcoin. I don’t like how there is going to be a balancing act between maintaining the ETF versus maintaining tradablity.

>>57188527
Anon, I say this with complete and sincere compassion: do not invest your own money. Because you are clearly too dumb to understand certain things.

>>57188527
the first spot etf with weekly options and a three digit price will "win" anyhow

>>57188552
My loss is your gain

what index would you pick for future 401k contributions? I'm thinking 25% in VTIAX and 25% in VINIX

>>57188527
Why wouldn't it just be another case of fractional ownership? Like, I can see how people wouldn't want to drop $45k and see only 1 share listed but any other value is just fuckery

>>57188656
Whatever has the best 10 year return and lowest fees, of your options.

>>57188674
Most fund managers try to trade round lots and might be prohibited by their own portfolio rules to not trade fractional shares. Look at Buffett’s 13F

>>57188656
It's rarely worth getting too granular with these, just pick one that covers a broad range and has low fees.

>>57188656
And where are you putting the other 50%?

>futures

If repeating digits multiple MAG 7 companies won't exist in 30 years

>>57186190
I've been saying this a while. We 2x the money supply. So at a minimum we should see 100% inflation. The fed has gotten around that by locking up most of that money in the repo market and paying interest on that cash, thus worsening inflation.
Sooner or later the payments on that cash won't be sustainable and the fed will have to leak it back into the economy.
I do agree that every few years we're going to have a random spike of 5-8% inflation for unknown reasons, and it'll likely be the fed dropping the repo interest.

I think the HSI traders are secretly pro democracy agitators trying to undermine Xi

>>57188656
not american but i just do 100% world equity with my company retirement fund match thing (they match 100% of 2% of my paycheck), US equity has been better but i want to this to be braindead, i dont wanna be worrying about it at any point. If world equity goes down at least i know there wasn't much i could have done
i'll figure out how to convert slowly into fixed-income when i get old

>>57186617
>spyg
Never knew that existed thanks. I bet the options volume is pretty low on that compared to spy

>>57188811
Fuck. New dark ages confirmed.

Buy TMC

Tuesday.... it all ends Tuesday......

If you guys are wondering why SPY dropped by 10 points since Dec 28 it’s because I invested half of my life savings into VFV on that very day.

>>57189068
We appreciate the confession, but I don't think $200 is enough to change the course of the market

Hello bond shills, I want my money back

Did those nuts get poisoned?

>>57188811
>in 3 decades
Nice get faggot.
Can't wait, fucking tulips floating on yiddish magic, to the harm of the US. May their cause to harm us fail spectacularly.

>>57189055
>wells fargo

Let me guess, shit earnings and markets end the week with a total bloodbath?

>>57186190
Meh, inflation was below 2% for a long time

>>57189055
>AZZ
Those companies are all AZZ anyways

>>57189055
Hmm
I don't currently do business with any of those companies

>>57188811
it will be google, facebook, netflix, and tesla (idek if they’re all in the mag7)

When would I use a Covered Call/Cash Secured Put versus a Credit Spread? From what I understand the credit spread is for a crab market and the former options are more specifically bearish and bullish respectively

>"Buy now, pay later" sales hit a record $16.6 billion over the last 2 months, up 14% compared to 2022

Didn't a bunch of payment advance companies pop up around the last big recession in 2008? This shit is gonna end up ugly as fuck kek

>>57185815
insider here.

There-will-be-popcorn.

I repeat there-will-be-popcorn.

Today.

That's all. Take that as how you will.

>>57189529
Pbr is just popcorn bouncing higher and higher

>>57189481
You do a CC when you already own the shares and want to generate some up front cash on your holdings. Might be sacrificing some gain later if the market blows through your short call strike but that's the trade-off for collecting that option premium up front. Cash secured put is to collect premium on stocks you wouldn't mind owning if you had to. Credit spreads and spreads in general are defined risk strategies within certain ranges. Spreads are gay and bitchmade imo

>>57185815

>>57189529

Actually ignore what I said, Idk what I'm talking about I just wanted to say something dumb and I'm eating popcorn right now.


I'm just a dumb frog uwu.

>>57189495
a fuckton of online sales on black friday were "buy now pay later" crap too. also anons working in retail saying that a lot of stores were turning up empty this year.

>>57189092
Oh right I was supposed to to my bond writeup and link it back to equity prices. Ehhh I'll do it this weekend if I feel like it. A bit late now but oh well.

>>57189553
Thanks for the clarification, from what I understand currently about spreads it's that you basically only ever trade stocks that have really low movement in general so you stay within that desired range, low risk but also slow gains.
What I'm also getting from CC and CSP is that you would basically only ever run them as a wheel starting with CSP getting those premiums until you get assigned shares in which case you move onto CC.
I might just start with the wheel method of options first, DD a good stock and put in however much I need to afford getting assigned 100 shares and hopefully steadily build premiums and recycle it back into the portfolio.

>>57189564
I'm sick of retail wagies who think they can get an edge by eyeballing the traffic in one store.

>>57189600
>What I'm also getting from CC and CSP is that you would basically only ever run them as a wheel starting with CSP getting those premiums until you get assigned shares in which case you move onto CC
This is the way

>>57189631
>retail wagies
Hey that's me!

Imagine if Somali pirates linked up with the houthis and the Madagascar mad men

>>57189631
you are retail
>>57189693
everybody here is retail
I can't stop watching this scrabble grandmaster guy. He keeps coming up with words that sound like they don't exist but they do according to scrabble official dictionary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KL5NRDXNFg

baking

>>57189092
Imagine falling for literal government psyops lmao.

>>57189564
30% of online sales were thru Amazon and they offer 'monthly payments' for certain shit.

You can take a guess to how many consoomers abused that kind of credit lol.

IRRATIONAL

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>>57186917
B00kmark

>>57189688
This sounds far too simple though, clearly I'm missing something because if a stock dumps hard then I'm fucked in the ass. Is there something I should be looking for specifically when doing TA before committing to my first CSP? I've seen mention of reading RSI on charts and whatnot, not to mention looking out for things like potential IV crush and low delta

>>57189807
nonnative here
wtf is ZA? I only know that as a short form for South Africa, lol, as they use it on their webpages.

>Germany November retail sales -2.5% vs -0.1% m/m expected

Consooming is not a german habit. The americans must have got it from somebody else.

>>57189780
>>57189780
>>57189780
>>57189780

>>57189869
>wtf is ZA?
Short slang for pizza. The dictionary has some bullshit in it like that.

>>57189882
Ok, this is really bullshit. Can't say if ZA is really used as slang for pizza in anglosphere, but I actually don't believe it and it is retarded.

>Yo, want some ZA, bro?