/biz/ - Business & Finance

Prev: >>57159148
Nigger

2025 will be better

lol wow what a fucking joke of a day. Unironically no reason to sell off like this but oh well I guess they're just going to be just as jewish as ever.

Everything is red expect for BOIL. feels good bro.

newfag niglets are baking OPs, can't get a nicer top signal

>>57161487
probably the poor PMI data leaked at 6am

Nice day, assholes.

Hey, you guys want to hear a joke? Nat gas.

>>57161512
Verizon up 3%. fuck Blackcock and vanguard

>new thread
>new id
heh nothing personal

You want to hear another joke? What's the difference between nat gas and a lotto ticket?

Lotto tickets sometimes pay off.

Ringing in the new year with a +0.5%. Can't complain about that

>>57161535
Man I fuckin love pickles. Cucumbers, too.

Smoking meth before trading has helped me profit today

WHY IS IT DUMPING!!!

Why is the sell volume so low? Kind of sus.

>>57161489
Took you long enough and this is what we get?

>>57161565
Where you looking?

>Alibaba & JingDong.
Heh, seems as if I'm the only one left... I guess these are the last bags I'm hol...

Forgot to mention. HN's monthly "who's hiring" thread was unusually bad last month. Someone even made a thread about it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38519557

Startups might be dead.

THIS CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN!
WHERE ARE THE EMERGENCY RATE CUTS TO NEGATIVE 5%?!?!?!?!?
WHY IS POWELL STANDING IDLE WHILE THIS DEVASTATION IS HAPPENING?!?!?!?

>>57161489
decembre 2024 Natural Gas contract trades at a whopping 43% higher than current contract

discuss some ways of going long spot Natural Gas with minimal costs.

>>57161565
Bear faggots love to make fun of people who say "no news" but inevitably when we get huge, market-wide dumps for literally no apparent reason, they all go short and get immediately rekt. I welcome it.

>>57161579
Why would any startup hire before rate cuts?

CLOSE THE MARKET
ANNOUNCE THE RATE CUTS
I WILL NEVER GET RE-ELECTED WITH THIS EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF RED

>>57161574
Baba has been a thorn in my eyes for years now, i will never surrender however.

>>57161552
I do too actually.

>>57161598
I covered my shorts today.

will going long a cfd of natural gas cost me less than 10% per annum? if so, it can be worth it for a 34% or more percent gain cash&carry trade.
if you are rich enough, this can make your year

PPT FULLY ACTIVATED
>PPT FULLY ACTIVATED
PPT FULLY ACTIVATED
>PPT FULLY ACTIVATED
PPT FULLY ACTIVATED

i hope you bought puts

>>57161598
we pumped for months on no news.

>>57161574
>>57161615
Considering Emperor Xi called out economic weakness in his New Year's speech, you can bet some gigastimulus, rate cuts, QE, and bear executions are gonna happen this month.

>>57161615
>i will never surrender however.
Based.

>>57161512
My LMT and my MCD is green

>>57161646
>GLIDE
>SLOPE
>CAPTURED

>>57161590
Anon, you realize natural gas is used for heating, right?

>>57148355
Don't say you weren't warned. 9% left to go.

>>57161646
I LOVE PPT

>>57161716
whats your point smugface? tell me something i dont know.

>I finally broke even on RTX
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>up 16% on a stock since last week
>Only put 1.5k into it so I barely made pocket change
What is the point of anything if I'm poor

>>57161732
Like, of course December contracts are more expensive. But they're priced so people who actually have the ability to store it in large quantities make a slight profit.

>>57161751
There isn't much. That's why you shouldn't treat trading or non-Boglehead investing as anything more than a hobby until you're in six figure hell.

>>57161717
this isn't true my entire portfolio is green, with some stocks even 3% or 12% up

>>57161760
Whatcha got?

>>57161679
lol this is my other favorite one. No you fucking goldfish, we dumped for over three months prior to that on a bunch of permadoomer bearish bullshit which - to the surprise of no one who pays attention - was just Big Money selling puts to retail idiots. Here we go again.

>>57161760
You must be holding some absolute turds. Tax loss sellers still have upside. It's last year's winners being sold.

>>57161752
and?

i'm talking about going long spot ng and going short the '24 decembre contract to lock in profits.

basically what you are describing without having to have a gas storage facility.
how much could it cost me to buy "paper" natural gas until decembre.
that is the question at hand

>>57161713
WE FUCKIN GAAN

>>57161695
>Japification of China
Holy based!

>>57161774
Appreciate your genius. So do we buy SOXL today or not?

>>57161774
No we didnt you fucking tool, we pumped pretty much all of 23, we only dumped in oct because someone had to cover their shorts.

>>57161745
>MFW RTX finally ISN'T a piece of shit, but BA is a piece of shit today

>>57161751
>What is the point of anything if I'm poor
Most wealthy people started out rich.
That's a bitter pill to swallow.
The "from zero to 8+ figures" stories are 1 in a few hundred million or fake.

>>57161772
>>57161778
Verizon, LLAP, Enbridge

I'm hungry and poor and a virgin. But at least I'm not a fat nigger.

>KO
>PEP
>BTI
divi chads we eating good
What's the news on BTI?

soft landing

>>57161807
...are you me?

>>57161805
ugh the post cut off, fuck the captchas
also British Tobacco

It is with great sadness and a heavy heart that I announce to all my fellow techbros: It's over. The market has spoken. There has been a clear rotation from tech into value stocks. The dividend chads were right. Buffett was right.

>>57161815
>What's the news on BTI?
I bought Rothmans cigarettes today.

>>57161489
>>57161590
Nat Gas is way oversupplied right now retards

Can somebody explain why the fuck coinbase is dropping into oblivion despite BTC gaining?

>>57161792
mmmmmyeahbud I'm gonna have to ask you to check the 1yr chart and get back to me on July - October

>>57161791
I didn't buy today because I usually add to my portfolio on Wednesdays so maybe tomorrow. My SOXL is still green so I'm not super sad yet.

>>57161816
>nage

>>57161780
That's called trading the spread. Except you pay for storage by having to sell your spot NG contract to buy the next month. Then, a month later, having to do that money-losing roll again.

Or you pay for storage by taking delivery on your spot NG and literally storing it until December in Louisiana or wherever the fuck.

>>57161828
He almost always is.
Hopefully it will flush out all the retards that are only in it for the money.

>>57161646
>>57161713
>>57161725
>>57161784

>>57161833
Not in EU and Asia prices are 3 times higher. This oversupplied gas meme is a US phenomenon, and massive infrastructure is being build for the transportation of gas in the USA, so prices will tend to go up in the US and down in Asia and EU until the prices reach equilibrium.

>>57161883
>There is a whole team dedicated to stopping the market from plunging and bobos still to this day are bearish

>>57161745
>>57161796
Look at that afternoon GD selloff. Algorithmic as fuck.

>>57161818
No but there's an epidemic of people like us and the elites don't care.

>>57161883
BOT MARKET SINCE 3PM

>>57161848
13% is a big hit. But I am down $3k on Mara buying that dip Friday. Im a deer in the headlights right now.

>>57161836
COIN is not BTC. It is BTC *hype*, which is different.

Protip: That hype peaked a couple days ago with some nigger bragging about a 7 figure MARA gain on wsb. Now you know why it always pays to watch for that kind of retardation.

>>57161883
ONLY I HAVE THE BRAINS TO RULE WALL STREET

>>57161915
I had pasta for lunch too

>>57161906
I sold my GD back in like April and went full planes the rest of the year. Kinda wish I hadn't based on Q4.

>>57161879
exactly this except its actually more like a cash n carry trade.
is it even possible to get these costs below 10%?

>>57161920
I'll take the 13% hit after being up 180% for the year, not to mention I think semis and tech hit a multi-year bottom in October 22

>>57161915
It's your responsibility to make them care

>>57161925
>It is BTC *hype*, which is different
Yet it 90% correlates with the BTC price, because the BTC price is also literally BTC hype, brainlet

I was going to go to the stock market today but I'm glad I didn't. Maybe tomorrow if its still there.

>>57161916
>BOT MARKET SINCE 3PM

>>57161971
This is the 10%. Chinese money launderers and BlackRock aren't buying and selling corn based on ETF rumors or wsb posts. Nor, going one tier up, are MSTR/GBTC buyers/sellers angling for leverage like COIN/MARA degens.

>Make 1k IRA contribution
>Goes to my 2024 limit instead of my 2023
>Didn't see option to change the year
I'm retarded

MARA bros... this morning was the dead cat bounce wasn't it? We got scammed.

>>57161836
>why is this stock that pumped ridiculously high in December selling on the first trading day of January?
idk anon it's a mystery

inb4 3:45 reversal

FINAL QUARTER PORTER PUMP
WE CLOSE GREEN

MIKE YOU DO NOT COME TO LAS VEGAS AND TALK TO A MAN LIKE BOBO GREENE LIKE THAT

>>57162022
Sick of your shit, Fredo.

>>57161535
i hate how Luigi is seen as a fucking beta male now a days. Luigi needs a fucking redemption arc

CELH just keeps going up!
Celsius going to be the next Redbull?

>>57161933
>ONLY I HAVE THE BRAINS TO RULE WALL STREET

>>57162005
ez

>Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Live CNBC stream:
https://www.newslive.com/business/cnbc-live-free.html

>Brokers:
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq

>Stock market dictonary:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com

Previous: >>57159148

>>57161802
>Most wealthy people started out rich
Completely wrong and by a huge margin, just look it up. This is just bitter cope by poors.
>Uhm ACKSHULLY anon I said ZERO dollars so I'm right

>>57162075
Yeah, dude fights ghosts and isn't afraid of nothing.

Money
Get back
I'm alright, Jack, keep your hands off of my stack
Money
It's a hit
Don't give me that do goody good bullshit

I'm in the high-fidelity first-class traveling section
And I think I need a Lear jet

lows of 2024 have been made

>>57162095
Based Pink Floyd anon

>>57162097
I like your attitude, son.

>>57161489
Why the fuck did markets shit the bed so much today?? Mag 7 are all fucking red!

Ah there it is. There is the bullshit that made me hesitate to short immediately. No trades today. We'll see how tomorrow looks.

brehs im sick. bobo tried to kill me with his airborne aids but i will comeback stronger

eow is green.

feel free to laugh at me, started trading in november.
genuinely want to keep myself safe right now (ironically ofc). still would've been up 400 bucks all-time if i didn't buy that one shitty option

>>57162121
You're supposed to short before it dumps not after.

>>57162127
ive been getting rektd 2 years but still in the game.

options are cancer

>>57162118
Well, they're all overpriced, and had a long run. Sales today aren't taxed (for me) until next year. Embrace value my friend and today you would have gains too.

>>57162127
Don't fuck with options.

>>57162127
>oh no I lost 4 hundred European pesos
nigga that ain't shit

>>57162127
>still would've been up 400 bucks all-time if i didn't buy that one shitty option
Yeah that's how it do. Good to learn this lesson with low stakes.

>>57162148
That's a nice suit or an expensive watch.

one position ate shit today and other is green.

you need more bobo.

>>57162014
>FINAL QUARTER PORTER PUMP
>WE CLOSE GREEN
CALLED IT
LETS FUCKONG GOOOOOFKFI

>>57162148
Realized losses probably will be around 700-800 bucks when the option inevitably goes to zero in the next days. It doesn't hurt me financially but still makes me seethe

>>57162127
who cares I fart that amount of money

>>57162138
Actually. Ackshually. That idea doesn't hold up on backtest. The majority of good short (and long) signals come after the initial big candle. Most of the false signals come on flat crab that looks like it's going to break some kind of way then breaks different way and you lose some money or a lot of money if you dig in heels and refuse to adjust to this development.

and just like that... SPY will never be below $472 ever again

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>>57162172
Based ass saver.

HAPPY NEW BEAR MARKET!

xamn you nibbas do really be saving the stock market.
i retract my previous statements, y'all my nibbas.

One can only laugh at the astounding Jewishness of this market.

Ding ding ding! How did it go today anon?

>>57162118
The Plunge Protection Team bless you and keep you.
The Plunge Protection Team make their face shine on you and be gracious to you.
The Plunge Protection Team look upon you with favor and give you peace.

Amen

>>57161646
>>57161713
>>57161916
>>57162085
>>57162097
timing the market is timing the market.

>>57162194
+2.23%

>>57162194
-1.73%

>>57162180
idk I try to stick to fundamentals.
>>57162194
Very well. +0.6%.

>>57162194
-5%
See >>57162127

>>57162194

>>57162212
based

>>57162194
-.3% i deleveraged down to 1.1 SPY from 1.3 SPY

>>57161713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtXJrFVp8Pk
LANDING THIS MARKET WITH 100% SURVIVORS

>>57162194
-0.10% it's over

>>57162194
I thought about doing something but then didn't do. /cashgang/ still.

>>57162194

>>57162194
-0.05%

>>57162194
I'm not checking.

>>57162183
I just saw the documentary about that bitch and I have no idea how any of you guys can think she's cute when she literally sounds like a dude

>>57162234
Should have posted the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ENxcE0on5A

>>57162251
Who is she?

>>57162194

>>57162251
Fake voice, fake product. Now, if you were concerned about Marissa Mayer's laugh, you have a good point.

>>57162234
If airliners didn't exist and someone talked about building them today I'd tell them it's impossible. It's insane that actually works.

i'm short intc september $65 calls so if anyone is interested in that stock you can pretty much guarantee it will be higher than that by then.

>>57161489
>BOIL
Idk man, it literally looks like the chart for a scam coin.

>>57162194
> 16:00:01
impressive. I'm up 0.26% on Canadian holdings and up 2.18% on American ones

>>57162194
I beheemed myself with Oil and Lean Hogs

>>57162194
I was not in a trade but that pump in the last 15 minutes made me angry.

shill me some brazilian companies

>>57161489
>OH MY ECONOMIC SOIENCE WE NEED TO TAKE LE HECKIN PROFITS AAAAAAAAAA
>SELL SELL SELLS SLELSL LS ELSLL S LLEL SLLS LSLE LSLLSLLELS

any reason not to just put all my money in BLK when it beats index funds consistently?

>>57162340
PBR

>>57161489
Tupperware bros, when is we MOONIN'?

>>57162341
>MFW everyone who wanted to lock in profits gets assblasted with more insane pump on little to no news

>>57162257
elizabeth holmes

>>57162262
Her VC told her she had to lie to get ahead.
It's crazy how much crap just being honest protects you from.

>>57162391
This will be my only non shitpost ITT going forward: honesty is unironically the best policy. It may seem difficult, but will always, always, be easier than lies.

>>57162095
Based

>>57162340
>>57162362
PBR.A

test

>>57162194
Terrible

>>57162432
Why are the preferred shares cheaper than the unpreferred?

>>57162418
“If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.” – Mark Twain

Why is clsk such trash?

>>57162090
You have to define wealthy. More than eight figures might be drastically different than low seven figures, because there are a ton of people who are otherwise not rich at all but their house exploded in value.

LLAP WHERE WE AT

>>57161489
How'd everyone's day go?

>>57162494
Throbbing erection

What should I do with $15k?

>>57162515
Buy $TSLA

>>57162239
cash is cute

>>57161489
is it too late to buy in?

>>57162515
UVIX

>>57162532
Serious answers only, please.

Guys I'm retarded. Why wouldn't everyone who wanted to invest in the SP500 not just buy SPXY? Instead of average annualized returns of 10%, you'd be at 30% right (saying nothing of that underlying assumption continuing)? What am I missing?

>>57162558
That was serious. Over $300 after earnings.

>>57162551
>just buy a chart which always goes down bro.

>>57162515
Take the boglepill anon. 15k is a decent chunk of change. Do you really wanna throw your money away on some dogshit overpriced tech company with no earnings? Throw it in and index fund and dont worry about, and collect a nice dividend for yourself (you deserve it).

>>57162582
>always
except when it shoots up 10x in one quarter during market crashes.

>>57162582
>always
watch and learn

I started the year red
its over

>>57162611
At this rate I'm going to lose 1/4 of my networth by eoy

>>57162457
PBR.A doesn't have voting rights so they're cheaper but they receive the same dividend so yield higher. Most of the stock is owned by the government so voting is useless anyways

>>57162599
>tomorrow it will it go up by 300%
>you just wait and see

non-retards short vix futures and that is what you see in the UVIX.
sure, it can pump sometimes but thinking you can time a pump in that shit means you are a special case.

Reminder that European governments are shilling for Biden because they want more free handouts. We (the United States) make cushy European welfare states possible by providing for, and thus subsidizing, their national defense at our own expense, to the point where it's bankrupting our country. European countries spend only a fraction of what we do on their military, and yet they expect us to protect them free of charge. European governments need Biden to be reelected so that he will keep sending troops and financial aid to Europe. Call your congressman and tell them to investigate European election interference on behalf of Joe Biden, and to sanction European governments accordingly for the direct threat that they pose to US democracy.

>futures

>>57162598
here is UVXY. pretty much like UVIX with a few differences.

telling someone to put 15k in this probably means one of two things.
you dont know what you are talking about or you want them to lose their money because you are an evil homosexual.

picrelated is a monthly chart in case that needs clarifying.
>https://files.catbox.moe/j196fx.png

>>57162194
+0.13% CELH really saved my ass today

I love Dow jones mysteriously jumping at EOD while rest of market is down gotta be one of my favorite trading patterns.

may the bonds rise from the ashes and my german placement agent bestow upon me millions from unsuspecting euro trash trustafarians, maybe her sex tape as well

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

Previous: >>57159148

>>57162716
anon...

>>57162629
>short vix futures
>UVIX
Anon, I..

>>57162698
>he doesn't know

>>57162698
no one is saying to hold it for 10 years, anon.

>>57162564
>SPXY
Huh?

>>57162651
>subsidizing, their national defense at our own expense
Imagine falling for this lie. You can't actually be as stupid as the European heads of state can you? NATO exists to fight American wars, the whole thing is just a way to gaslight Europeans into dying for Israel. And the promise of "defending" Europe is just a carrot forever dangling in front of their retarded faces

>>57162741
Your reading comprehension leaves to be desired. He's saying that what you see in UVIX always going down is the profit you get from shorting VIX futures.

>>57162769
>Your reading comprehension leaves to be desired
ESL anon calm your tits.

>>57162741
my bad. it looks like a long position with auto-rolling to the next month. contango is so persistent that it just goes down and down and down.

thinking its a good idea to go long is like thinking that you will live if you shoot yourself in the head because one in 30 people survive headshots.

>>57162762
The ticker for the 3x leveraged S&P500 fund

>>57162728
Nobody posted links that's not very good baking form.

>>57162788
>virgin 3x
>not Chad 4x
live a little

>>57162775
Oh you are actually retarded, ok carry on then.

even if you are hoping for some vix pump in january because you saw some green january monthly candles on the chart, its still the most retarded trade you can ever do.

if the pump wont come which it most likely wont you are looking at a 20 to 30% loss in one month and another 25% the next month. in six months you'd be down from 15k to 5k.

>>57162768
And yet here we are defending Europe from Russia and the houthis. SOLVE YOUR OWN FUCKING PROBLEMS, YOU LAZY SHIT.

>Best Buy has begun removing all physical media & displays

Bros why are they doing this? Should I short retail again?

>>57162127
>>57162127

Stop using this shit their options are overprice and sold from big investment banks

>>57162803
So why isn't every boomer etf investor buying into this if they're bullish on the US economy long term? Is the fund able to be liquidated in a particularly bad recession? What's the drawback?

>>57162965
>Stop using this shit their options are overprice and sold from big investment banks
Sounds like literally every trading platform ever

>>57162887
>in six months

>>57163018
>animal noises

ok cool.

>>57162194
>-0.22%

China, unfuck yourself.

>Have a plan to buy BTI as soon as I got payed.
>Go to store to buy Rothmans to test the product and boost future earnings ( not really I bought China and I can't afford cigars now.
>Come back home look at BTI it's up 2%
>Now I can get less shares for my money.
Fucking glowies man, I know you're here fuck you. I'm going to make it regardless of your attempts to sabotage my journey.

Today's market wide sell off can be attributed by a single downgrade from Barclays. The last time AAPL was downgraded was back in 2022.
>Barclays downgraded the stock to "underweight" from "neutral" and trimmed its 12-month price target by $1 to $160. Before Tuesday, Itau BBA's "sell" was the only bearish rating on Apple since July 2022.
If you had believed this "analyst" then you would have missed out on 40% gains and AAPL hitting ATH. So why do these analysts have any bearing on the whole market when they themselves are guessing.

Why has apple been shitting the bed this Christmas season? Seriously, it’s been tanking harder than usual

>>57163258
This news came before market open btw
HOW THE FUCK can I stop missing such blatantly obvious plays? Also, how do I differentiate between how important the downgrade/upgrade entity is? I read news like that from time to time but they barely seem to affect the stock. Why is Barclays such a big deal?

Going all in on IEP, talk me out of it.

>>57163258
AAPL is a shitco, they've gotten rid of all of their experts and are squeezing profit out of their platforms. I pointed this out and then shorted them based on it and have made a profit. It's probably got a lot further to fall but I'm no longer in the position where I can l leave shorts open like that. I'd strongly recommend against taking bullish positions on it.

>>57162974
Mid-21st century America is not mid-20th century America. We could very well be in Nikkei mode. In which case your leverage heems you with fees and decay during a multi-decade gigacrab.

>>57163301
Apple is like Polaroid was in the 70s. By that I mean It's over they can't grow and competition is coming.

>>57161489
Sometimes natural gas escapes when I pick my bottom. Still feel lonely though.

>>57163290
You'll be lumped in with the plebbit video game pawnshop crew forever.

>>57163301
>>57163331
how big is your portfolio kid

I bought Cigna at $262

for fucks sake Xi hurry up with the China stimmies

>>57163421
$60k.
I know what I'm talking about though, I've worked on this stuff.

>>57161828
>Buffett was right.
Buffett also dumped GM right before it popped 35%

>>57163423
How's the Undertakerfolio starting the year? Dow was green so I gotta think it was too.

>>57163447
What China bags do you have, anon? And how much of your portfolio is bleeding out in the middle kingdom?

>still haven't won big
>keep being late to the party
i'm too stressed out. fuck the market. i'm playing the option wheel strat. i'll just sell contracts to you gambling degenerates.

stocks n00b here, what exactly happens during "extended hours trading" or whatever we just had here today? I couldn't buy anything.

>>57163463
Foxconn employee?

>>57163421
Look at the financial statements the company Isn't growing. Revenues are down YoY how does this company warrant a 30 P/E? They're losing market share to Huawei and Xiaomi.

>>57161617
I recently came across spicy bread and butter pickles. holy shit do these things make a fire chicken salad sandwich

>futes

yeah I'm thinking we're back

>>57163554
bought baba calls last month and today for china stimmies

>futures

>>57163631
>today
Why today man HSI seems like It's going to a new low...

>>57163575
>what exactly happens during "extended hours trading"
Premarket and after hours market trading is lower liquidity so big players skip it (unless something like an earnings release happens). Exact hours and holidays are spelled out here: https://www.nyse.com/markets/hours-calendars

>whatever we just had here today
What do you mean? Today was a normal market day. Your broker should explain why they're not letting you buy shit.

>>57162194
gave away some theta even with delta. we'll see tomorrow.

>>57163637
because baba was just down for whatever happened with american markets today

>>57163575
Block orders from cash session are filled, cash is settled, normal trading resumes on very low liquidity until the next cash session. You have from 9:30am est to 4pm est for trading monday-friday barring holiday's. Depending on the security and your brokerage you can partake in *ext* extended hours trading and lose money just like you would during the cash session. But i think you're asking the wrong question because today's cash session was normal hours and markets.

>>57163576
I was a software engineer at a big tech company.

Vicuña

>>57163642
Delta neutral is the name of the game, proud of you anon.

>>57163642

Is QYLD going out of business?

>>57163664
wow

>>57163697
No, but apparently VTNR is.

>>57163697
Yes.

i would like to thank the january effect for my divyboomer stock gains today

>>57163703
Wow that looks like an LETF masquerading as an energy company.

>>57162803
oohlala, is there a bearish one?

The bottom is SPY 180.

The 6 month treasury is now yielding less than fed funds.

>>57163766
SPXU & SPXS are your -3x SPY choices. Unfortunately nothing -4x (yet).

>>57163780
Jerome is going to cuck long bond gamblers.

the yield curve is even more inverted. That means the only way to uninvert is for the fed to drop interest rates. Which it will do. And we will be back to your normal programming.

>>57163698
yeah

>>57163780

>>57163824
It looks to me like they're already thinking that.

>>57163840
I think the bond market is expecting at least one cut in the first half of the year. Possibly before February.

I knew 2024 would be the year that the bubble will pop but not this soon KEK

>>57163841
>It looks to me like they're already thinking that.
elaborate, please?
everything beyond 12 months is being heavily discounted to the Fed funds rate, which paints exactly the opposite picture of what you've stated.

>>57163858
>I think the bond market is expecting at least one cut in the first half of the year. Possibly before February.

>>57163840
>>57163877

>>57163664
oh I'm not delta neutral. My theta was taxed at the same rate as I gained delta. Delta even would be the better term. If spy is down $1 tomorrow I'll have doubled my money.

>>57163867
They're moving back up though while the short end is coming down.

>>57163891
what an absolute unit

>>57163902
>They're moving back up though while the short end is coming down.
can you please be a bit more specific and not only give easily refutable blanket statements?
what duration(s) are you talking about?
you surely can not talk about the 10 year duration since it recently crashed about 25%

>>57163858
>Possibly before February.

>>57163877
I'm pretty sure all QE does is create credit driven bubbles in durable goods. It doesn't really seem to affect stock prices and it only seems to pin bond prices up.

>>57163920
KEK

>>57163919
Less than one year yields fell today (sans 3m which came in line with the terms around it) while longer term yields rose.

>>57163936
I was going to use the webm in >>57162005 but checking with his lawyer also works. I mean a January cut is, what, like 13% odds on FedWatch?

when does the money from tax harvesting get put back into the market?

>>57163932
oof

A female broker just called me to make sure my account was doing well. She gave me her direct number in case I needed any help with anything. 2024 is off to a fantastic start.

>>57163956
Never.

>>57163956
Next few days, watch the heatmap.

>>57163940

>>57163966
Did she offer to touch your benis?

>>57163956
Well, have to wait 30 days to avoid a wash sale, so eom at the latest depending on how many days before eoy the harvesters sold

Nat gas bros, I have a question. My brothers and I inherited mineral rights to some acreage. 10 acres gross. We’ve been getting offers from various energy companies. Most recent was $400 net (each brother, but not per acre. Just a small lump payment) and then 16% royalties.

I know a lot more info is needed to make the educated decision on if this is a good offer, but on its face does seem like shit or a good way to go? I know that the land has had wells on it for decades, so they may perhaps be mostly dried up, hence the low offer. Just looking for insight/advice from people who have dealt with this.

>>57163995
Yeah it might just be noise.

>>57163999
She touched my basis. Close enough.

>>57164020
Be sure you are compensated adequately in case they never extract any resources. If the land could otherwise be used for agriculture, for example, make sure they pay a minimum that replaces that potential income. Also the agreement could cause problems if you ever try to sell. Sounds like these guys want to pay you practically nothing to have your balls in a vice. Set some terms like if minimum royalties of 50k per year not achieved within 5 years then the agreement is terminated. Make sure they are responsible for any environmental impact, crop damage, etc.

>>57164020
You'll probably want to start your own thread for this.

>>57164020
Bottle the farts yourself.

hello fellow soxlsissies, anyone else killing themselves later tonight?

Another day. A new year. Resolutions getting fulfilled. My monthly bagging of SWPPX.Had the green so I was like meh might as well get it over with.

>>57164020
I've heard that it's not a great idea to refuse unless you're actively extracting because often they can slurp it out elsewhere and they only do this to avoid legal liability.
That's just what I've heard though, I have zero experience trading mineral rights and very little with real estate in general.

Shit, I accidentally bought some May calls instead of March calls.

>>57164020
Get a lawyer involved who does this kinda work. Don't blindly sign anything till then.

CHINA BBROS

>>57164212
Didn't we already reduce our reserve requirements to zero last spring?

>>57161489
This dude has the same brow, cheek bones, nose, and hair color as me. The jaw is a little different but not much. This is basically a picture of me but with less good hair. I even have a moustache. It's uncanny.

>>57164161
Buy more

>>57164251
just remember that a man who picks bottom has stinky finger

>>57164212
>I feel the life pulled from me.
>I feel the Alibaba changing MEEEEEEEEEEE!.

https://youtu.be/xmOOGeZE-aE?t=80

>>57164297
>>57164297
>>57164297

>>57161518
Is this a happy merchant? Or have I been here too long

>>57164212
It doesn't matter. It's a new day, which means a new low on China stocks.

>>57164281
Thanks, anon. I will remember this sage advice.

What A.I. stocks should I buy?

>>57164353
OBviously, it's coin clippings.

>>57161489
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