/biz/ - Business & Finance

Hey guys see you at the end of the year to let you know how I did

>>57149332
Is this anime worth watching?

>still more than 4 hours until >futures

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

https://youtu.be/zTuD8k3JvxQ?t=43

>>57149332
>$UPRO
$UPROSITORY

>>57149342
I hope you liquidated everything

>>57149357
I only hold commodities + MDAX shorts. My portfolio is ready.

>>57149365
based tangible enjoyer

Asians or really any kind of girl is fine as a girlfriend. You just need a few holes and some tits and ass that aren't bitchy. If you plan to have children though you don't want to look down and see something that has no resemblance to you. Fish eyed expression, pointy black hair, can only mimic a soul. Long term investment in White women and oil.

>>57149340
I liked it, the kill scene from ep10 is prolly amongst my favourites of all time

>>57149387
Another thing. Do not marry women. I know it may seem tempting to get some deductions, but do not do it. Have multiple girlfriends as well

>>57149403
>dont get married
Dont you get fucked regardless in the courts?

>>57149399
Thanks. I needed something to waste away the remainder of this holiday.

>>57149422
Only if you go living with her for a variable amount of time (depends on local jurisdiction).

>>57149422
you get fucked when you sign leases, sign mortgages, use joint accounts. Just keep everything isolated. Do not fall for the 'honor' jew, you are the hero of your life and don't let yourself get pinned

you guys didnt tell me the market would be closed

Aim for marriage
Aim for having kids
Own a house
Carry no debt.

Where the fuck is that Hello Fresh shill from two weeks ago? Fuck you
Quick update on the gift cards my family got me for Christmas: I signed up and applied the cards and selected my first meals... Then I get a message that my cancellation was successfully processed. Now I am apparently getting no food and all of the gift cards are already used. The only other person I knew who used HELFY also had tons of problems with their billing systems, and that was like five years ago. I do not know how this company stays running with backend systems this bad.
This company deserves to go to zero

aim for living the sissy god life
aim for owning an apartment in a big city
aim for doing nothing besides getting fucked and having stonks in your portoflio

>>57149340
a good beginning to the thousand year Reich develop yourself and hide your powerlevel to defeat the demonic jews enemies of all mankind.

>400K saved from online thing
>thing got denonetized
>inb4 sell merch, patreon, affiliate links etc nothing works
>mid 30s nojob exp
I neee to 3x this thing so i can make enough off divies to move from my moms app
What do i buy? Will mstr or mara 3x? What if soft landing meant recesiob as all always and i already yoloed expecting etf and halving gains?
What if no recession, theres a 3x and i didnt yolo in? Fml

>>57149569
That company always looked like a scam. Its like one of those shilled obvious blunders that get advertised by youtubers all the fucking time like raid shadow legends, raycon, and other bullshit that sucks.

All I'm saying is women treat your dick like it's a chore, trap treat your dick like it's their god.

>>57149639
>he wants to start panictrading his life savings at the top

>>57149649
a hole is a hole bro

Yields...

YTD

I'm sitting 2024 out.

5% in bills is good enough when there's a major chance of -50% event this year

>>57149696
im still DCAing at my usual rate (currently ~1166/mo) but I do have abt 30k in a 4.15% yield savings I might fully dump into stocks if there's a crash. Keeping the best of both worlds I guess. I'm sure life will hit me with some awful shit as soon as I do and force me to eat a loss selling though because that's my usual luck in this world.

>>57149649
More to life than being some filthy sexual degenerate basement coomer.

>>57149403
I am going to fall in love with a beautiful girl that is pleasant to be around and marry her and there is NOTHING manosphere doomers can do to stop me

what price does MARA open at tomorrow if bitcoin is around $44k?

Poison milk

has any company ever done a share buyback via products? It would be pretty cool if you could put an rtx 4090 in your cart and check out on nvidia's website using shares or USD. Especially if it's

>>57149791
Implementing that sounds insanely complicated.

>>57149791
>Especially if it's
anon...
WE LOST ANOTHER ONE

BYD sold 3 Million cars this year. Why aren't you holding BYD RIGHT NOW, /smg/?

Just checked the market this morning and found out that my b

>>57149696
Take some risk. Buy ZROZ. We know the Fed isn't going to raise rates so these should out perform normal treasuries.

>>57149815
They will cut rates which will signal the top. I don't know why normoids think rate cuts are bullish. They're the exact opposite.

>>57149750
probably around what it's at now 22-23. when the market opens its going to be an absolute bloodbath though because all the big money already got out. stock will probably be under 10 by february.

>>57149811
!!!

>>57149340
haven't watched the cartoon but i thought the mango was pretty good

what would be the financial gain of a company replacing their human customers with AI????

what are you buying tomorrow?

>>57149869
voo

>>57149840
I agree. There's even a long research paper on the Fed's website that explains why rate cuts tend to precede recessions.
ZROZ is zero-coupon treasuries. They are better for trading because they're more volatile.

Faggot dead yet?

>>57149891
What was the explanation they gave?

>>57149569
Sounds like you got pajeetscammed. You sure it was their website?

>>57149403
>marry women
Involving the state In a relationship with a woman could be a huge mistake. It's like you don't trust each other so you involve a third party.

>>57149915
Fed ideally wants rates to be at a reasonable level (4-5%) so you get actual yield from bonds and inflation is kept under control, however if economy is fucked they need to cut rates down so money is cheaper to borrow and companies can stay afloat.

>>57149569
>Then I get a message that my cancellation was successfully processed. Now I am apparently getting no food and all of the gift cards are already used.
Ok you're shitposting now post proof or stfu no way this happened.

>>57149690
laughable.
Free markets are YOLO'ing on an imminent return of QE.
This isn't about rate cuts. Rate cuts are only a byproduct on the way to QE.
Whenever you hear "rate cuts" be assured that it's a dogwhistle for a return to QE.

>>57149840
>I don't know why normoids think rate cuts are bullish. They're the exact opposite.
here >>57150016

>>57149986
it's less about the state and more to do with making your commitment in front of your family & the rest of your community so that the social pressure feels harder to walk away from and you're both more motivated to change and compromise to make things work (which is necessary in every marriage) than walk away.

I’ve only ever fucked around with options and crypto. can you leverage trade stocks the way you can fx and crypto, like open a 10x long on SPY or something? if so which brokers offer this?

>>57150078
Look into CFD's.

>>57150016
how many times have you heard "higher for longer" over the past 2-3 months? Jerome will come and and deliver 25 bps cuts, maybe not even if the data does not support it. Bears and bulls will be disappointed next year.

>>57150078
like leverage etfs? thats the only thing I can think of

>>57150000
At this point I'm pretty convinced the fed's influence on rates is minimal and mostly restricted to near terms. They adjust FFR to match the market rather than the other way around and are along for the ride just like the rest of us.

>>57150064
it is absolutely about the state. do not invite the government into your home. only a handful of US states have common law marriage, I think some places like California have some gay shit too where you can get money if you live together but aren’t married and then break up. but most places you can simply be two single people in the eyes of the state, or two single parents if you have kids.
>t. work for a family law practice

>BREAKING: The UAE, Saudi Arabia, Ethiopia, Egypt and Iran officially join the BRICS

>>57150016
Rates going low means recesion check the charts
>inb4 soft landing this times different

>>57150098
ok thanks
>>57150103
I mean like margin trading. using leverage.

>>57150113
it all serves the same purpose. Marriage is a difficult journey, it's heavily incentivized to try to make things work than walk away. I wish it were even moreso, Faultless divorce was a horrific thing to allow people to do.

>>57150000
Right, but why do they cut before a recession?

>>57150064
>more to do with making your commitment in front of your family & the rest of your community so that the social pressure feels harder to walk away from
So you marry because of social pressure lmfao. You can have a wedding and go to church (to show commitment to your family and social circle), but why the fuck would you sign a contract with the state.
>you're both more motivated to change and compromise to make things work (which is necessary in every marriage) than walk away.
Yeah that's why divorce rates are at like 70% because entering into a contract with the state is very motivating. All I'm reading is cope.

>>57150116
when are we going to see real consequences from dedollarization? I mean a lot of countries seem to peg their currency to the dollar anyway the lazy fucks.

>>57149850
Unless Bitcoin crashes down to 16k that’s not going to happen

>The average European growth from 1800 to 1900 was 150%, with the UK and Russia at 300% and 250% respectively...

>...the US, on the other hand, started the 19th century with an estimated 5.3 million people and ended the 1900s with around 76 million, marking a growth of 1300%.

That means a surplus of 71 million people for the first century. The US also had a growth of around 270% from 1900 to 2000, from 76 million to 282 million, another surplus of 206 million. Over this timeframe, we start speaking in absolute numbers, not in guesses and estimates. So far, the latest reports sit at 335 million, marking a growth of 18% from the 282 million mark at the start of the century and a final surplus of about 53 million.

Realistically, how many more people could fit inside the United States, and how can i proffit from this?

>>57150135
My best guess would be because the banks know it's coming and want niggers to get conned into debt by the low rates to buy houses and shit then reap huge profits when the recession happens and everyone eats shit but the banks get to get a repo a bunch of houses from stupid debtniggers.

>>57150123
There will be no recession.
All recessionary tendencies have been pre-bailed by the free markets cumming into their own mouths since the end of October 2023.
Just take a look. The free market is discounting the 10 year yield at over 150 bps to the Fed funds rate.
Everybody is gorging on unnecessarily cheap debt again.
There will be no recession in the foreseeable future.
Jerome Powell is playing the world like a grand piano.

>>57150113
>but most places you can simply be two single people in the eyes of the state, or two single parents if you have kids.
Literally this your "wife" can move in with you and you can live together till death do you part without signing a contract with the state. If she ends up being a bitch, you can actually move on with your live without wasting your time and money in courts and all the bullshit after that.

>>57149754
What about mid 2024?
I n need a 3x to retire. Should i yolo on maranor mstr? 400k

$20k cash, $80k Bitfarms. What do I buy tomorrow? I want to buy SOXL calls OR cash.to until it goes down again so I can buy... SOXL calls.

>>57150135
Because if they didn't instead of a -50% you'd get a -90%

The bigger the cost of capital the fewer companies can stay in business during a recession

>>57150145
buy vgt and ride to the top as 1 billion mulatto fuck-cattle eventually pony up 100% of their income to live their entire life inside a VR hedonistic fantasy and power bio-reactors.

>>57150145
The US has the largest area of high-productivity agricultural land in the world and ludicrous fresh water resources, as long as people don't settle in the Soutwest in droves like a bunch of retards it could support a China-tier population with relative ease.

>>57150133
>it's heavily incentivized to try to make things work than walk away
anon, I’m telling you that marriage is illegal in the united states. if you and I sign a contact for me to fix your car, and you pay me but I never fix the car, then you can take me to court to enforce the contract, or at least get your money back. but if your wife signs a contract and says “til death do us part” and then decides she isn’t feeling it anymore a couple years later, then she can and will divorce you and you will have no legal option to actually enforce the contract or otherwise be compensated by her for her failure to fulfill her side of the contract. I have an old newspaper clipping from the 1970s or maybe even earlier where a 19 year old woman who had been married for one year filed for divorce and the judge literally denied it and said to her “you’re going to have to try to make it work” or something. with no-fault divorce that doesn’t exist anymore. marriage contracts cannot be legally enforced in the US. marriage (a real marriage, as in a lifelong commitment) is literally illegal now. do not get married.

>>57150100
>Bears and bulls will be disappointed next year.
They'll be disappointed in 2025? What ever happened to two more weeks?
>>57150116
It's real?! Fuck! I guess I need more international exposure.
>>57150169
I understand why rates drop, but recessions are usually detected after the fact. How do they know we are about to enter a recession and cut rates prior to the recession.

>>57150196
>as long as people don't settle in the Soutwest in droves like a bunch of retards

>>57150206
>do not get married.
Based advice. I found a picture of (You) in your practice.

>>57150110
Then the problem with that is other countries, namely China and Japan, have too much control over bond rates

>>57150206
With the way marriage works in the US now you don't get anything out of it as a man.
Especially if you're not Christian getting married is very stupid.

>>57150139
take some time to actually value the company and its future/bitcoin flows and you will realize like i did that it is certain to happen

>>57150196
Whites have to go somewhere to escape niggers and urban sprawl when Appalachia fills up. Where do you recommend they go other than the southwest?

>>57150163
You literally are giving the reason why marriage should in part be a legal ceremony.

>>57150227
Foreign countries don't hold that many treasuries. I can't remember what the exact numbers are but all together (Europe, SA, Asia etc) it's less than a third. Even then most of that is the banks in those countries using them as collateral for dollar trading so they don't really have control either.

>>57150228
Tax benefits?
>civil union
Not giving your kids mental/emotional issues by having the only non-married parents in their entire social circle? Same argument for circumcision. Amerimutt Crab bucket.

>>57150240
What's the reason? It's easier to move on? You don't lose half your net worth in the process and waste your time in court? That's somehow motivating to keep a dying relationship alive, when your wife knows she can end it now and take half your shit. Make your point.

>>57150116
NATO combined GDP is 18.35B

>>57150249
>Not giving your kids mental/emotional issues by having the only non-married parents in their entire social circle?
That would be a decent counter argument but divorce rates are high enough that that's more or less inevitable anyway.

>>57150228
>Especially if you're not Christian getting married
You can actually go to church and get married before god without signing a contract with the state.

>>57150156
House defaults don't help banks. They aren't, and don't want to be in the real estate business. They want to stay in their lane of finance.

>>57150267
You 2 also face social judgment from married friends/family/neighbors who will be quizzical and suspicious of your not taking the same bullet in the leg. Do not underestimate the power of the crab bucket.

>>57150212
There's all sorts of economic indicators that signal it but the main thing is unemployment going up

>>57150281
idk. A couple of people have told me I'm autistic (I don't think I am) so maybe it's easier for me than other people but I've literally just ignored them.

>>57150281
Or you could just tell your neighbor you're married and they'll be none the wiser. And maybe have a wedding celebration without signing a contract with the state for your friends and family and they'll be none the wise either. As far as everyone knows you're married.

>>57150257
>If she ends up being a bitch, you can actually move on with your life

>>57150162
Fingers crossed that JPow doesn't miss a note.
>>57150266
I meant Trillion

>>57150212
>recessions are usually detected after the fact
no, they’re just officially declared by the government after the fact. there are things you can see in real time that have 100% correlation with recession. for example the unemployment rate crossed above its 24 month moving average in Q3 or Q4 and that always corresponds to a recession, and GDI is negative yoy and that always corresponds to a recession, too.

>>57150304
How is that an argument for making marriage a legal contract? A piece of paper won't save a dying relationship. You can't stop your wife from divorcing you and she might be able to take half your shit (more motivation for her to divorce you).

>>57150291
reported unemployment is mostly fake
theres too many men not in the labor force if this continues it will collapse or stagnate completely

>>57150162
So you are saying after the fastest rate hike ever this time is unironically different
https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2015/09/28/04/53/socar086a

How can you believe that tho

>>57150332
At least in the fall labor participation was actually going up. It's pretty bad (something like 60% for working age men) but it was going in the right direction.

>>57149930
Well, I clicked the link in the email that the gift cards came in, so I'm pretty sure it went to their actual site.
>>57150008
Here's the email and a screenshot of me trying to use the gift card codes again. So I'll have to spend all day tomorrow dealing with their support to see if I can get anything...
What a great Christmas gift

Sum of u fools talk about oil n lean hoggz, bet yall nigguz aint even got no wata

envaste in wata nigguh, bitchez luv niqqaz who got madd wata

>>57150332
https://www.shadowstats.com/
Govt numbers have been fake & gay for a long time.
>>57150319
So in 1Q24 is the market going to be more fearful of the downturn or (continue to be) more jubilant about the easing conditions?
>>57150351
Sounds like you cancled the plan before they shipped you your free box(s). I'm guessing you fucked yourself there.

>>57150351
Contact support and keep us posted. Ask for 1 serving extra or something, if they waste your time too much.

>>57150383
>Sounds like you cancled the plan
I didn't cancel anything. I actually selected meals for the next three weeks. None of them looked any good... but at least it was free food
>>57150384
Yeah, I'll try. I did some google searching, and apparently HELFY gift cards cause problems for everyone. A lot of people say they're basically a scam and you'll never get the full value

>>57150266
>>57150308
The US economy alone is over $27 trillion, that doesn't make any sense.

>>57150341
>fastest rate hike ever
So you're giving an example for "this time will unironically be different" yet question the likelihood of it reoccurring?
Also that article is from the pre-QE world which basically is an age gone by.

>>57149569
You should have just used the gift cards and signed up for the minimum food plan. I've checked out those food services before and think they're kind of bullshit, but you should have at least made sure your gift cards went to good use.

>>57150450
Wdym didnt it start at dotcom? Rates were low af

And the economy is more indebt than ever why wouldbt shit crash

OPEN THE FUCKING MARKETS I NEED TO STARE AT CHARTS

>>57150383
>So in 1Q24 is the market going to be more fearful of the downturn or (continue to be) more jubilant about the easing conditions?
if unemployment continues to trend up then people will begin to understand a recession is happening this year.

>>57150460
>You should have just used the gift cards and signed up for the minimum food plan.
That is exactly what I did. I even entered my credit card which was required to start a weekly subscription, though there wouldn't be any charges for the first orders because of the gift card. I'm not sure what else I was supposed to do. I even got an email confirming my selections and telling me to expect the first box. My intention was to cancel after the gift cards were used up.
It's too bad this company is European and traded OTC and has basically no volume and options aren't available, or I'd bet against it. This is the kind of "tech" company that collapses under the weight of its own incompetence eventually

>>57150189
>>57150196
I´d say that even if Trump doesn´t win his plan to build freedom cities will inevitably come up, perhaps as a project to boost the economy after some major recession or to compete with some projects going on in Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

>>57150098
>CFDs are not allowed in the United States.
ok then

>>57150520
I think you're supposed to cancel after you get your first box.

>>57150560
The thing is I didn't cancel! I never clicked anything about cancelling! I was going to cancel once the gift cards were used up, but there were like $300, and the first box was only going to be like $40. I should have gotten a couple months of food

>>57150572
>The thing is I didn't cancel!
Well fuck... Keep us posted.

General consensus is that the stock market is over-valued heading into 2024, and 3/4th of companies are planning lay offs. I'm going to personally expect a MILD recession at some point.

Until then, I'll just hold some ETF's, collect dividends and sell call options to degenerates

Stay smart, have a good 2024 everyone

>>57150671
Yeah I'm also actually starting to predict a
>ROUGH LANDING
Not hard... but a bit bumpy

>>57150520
You need to contact customer support and get that shit squared away.

>>57150163
He still lives >>57149893

>>57150700
Yes, I will tomorrow, since today is a holiday. I also did some more google searching, and apparently HELFY just cancelling subscriptions for no reason is also... normal. Lol,
>"German Engineering"
Literally never buy anything from or invest in European companies ever, they're all shit

>>57150710
Didn't make that post I don't even own SPY.

>>57150728
I've never understood those meal plans anyway. They send you meals that's barely enough food to feed a think and call it "dinner for two". Us hamchad need more nutrients than that.

>>57150754
>The sun was just rising
>the hamchad didn't even pick up the phone to call an ambulance.
>america is the land of sociopaths

>>57150795
Hamchads care not for the lives nor the opinions of sheep.

I just took a big new years shit fart.
How do I profit from this?

Reminder that European governments are shilling for Biden because they want more free handouts. We (the United States) make cushy European welfare states possible by providing for, and thus subsidizing, their national defense at our own expense, to the point where it's bankrupting our country. European countries spend only a fraction of what we do on their military, and yet they expect us to protect them free of charge. European governments need Biden to be reelected so that he will keep sending troops and financial aid to Europe. Call your congressman and tell them to investigate European election interference on behalf of Joe Biden, and to sanction European governments accordingly for the direct threat that they pose to US democracy.

I’ll be buying tomorrow and adding all year… Chinese stocks too..

>>57150905
>to the point where it's bankrupting our country
giant meme

>>57150266
>>57150308
>NATO combined GDP is 18.35B
>I meant Trillion
What?
US GDP is 27 trillion.
European Union is around 19 trillion.
That's 46 trillion alone, excluding UK and Turkey.

>>57150754
Holy based hamchad. The meals are for twinks, women and men that don't have the time to cook but want to eat healthy and you can eat as many servings as you'd like until you're full.

>>57150934
BUDDY, look at interest payment computer. We're on the edge of insolvency because we're busy defending countries that spend a quarter as much on their military as we do, adjusted for GDP.

>>57150936
Yeah people celebrating BRICS are mostly retards who know nothing about geopolitics or economics, as you have shown. They generally just believe Russia good USD bad. If fact they are so stupid, they can't even recognize how incorrect the data is that NATO has a GDP of 18 billion, they read it and believe it.

>>57150910
>Chinese stocks too..
If you say Tomorrow, I say why not Today. If you sat 15min after the HKEX opens, I say why not market buy at HKEX open.

>>57150963
>US GDP: 26 trillion annually
>US spending on Ukraine aid to date (largest single foreign defense expenditure): $100 billion
yeah

>>57150988
Literally nobody mentioned Ukraine. The problem is that we're subsidizing the national defense of continental Europe, who refuses to contribute to NATO and field a military capable of deterring Russia on their own. We're subsidizing European defense budgets so they can have their lavish welfare states where nobody works, and in return European governments interfere in our elections so that we'll keep doing it. We need to pull our troops out of Europe and then sanction Europe for interfering in our elections.

>>57151022
ok

>>57151030
Fag.

>>57151022
>we just need to stop NATO and do everything Russia wants us to do
>it's not Russia doing propaganda it's AKSHUALLY NATO!
I would ask for a source, but I don't need a link to RT.
Thanks you for your input Vlad, it has been noted. We are all so lucky you got sent to the propaganda department instead of the front lines getting turned into hamburger meat. If NATO fell apart the US would become weaker and Russia could just keep taking over other European countries. It's fine to say other members of NATO should pay more, but it's a moronic notion that the US should just pull out, go after European countries, and basically do whatever it can to remake the Soviet Union.

>>57151034
You know the monroe doctorine was a complete failure, right? If we leave the world to its devices without influence, we won't be able to spycraft properly.

>>57151065
You believe that russai would foolhardly go nazi germany and take on the world? Russia just had to sya enough was enough and tell europe to stop seizing control of its land through coups. You honestly believe Zelensky, a comedian with no politics (herp derp, trump), was put into power by the will of the people? NATO is a kankerous bedsore that needs to get flipped over.

>>57151088
begone zigger

>>57151022
>guise please break up your alliance
No amount of shilling is going to make that happen, ever. You don't understand the west.

>>57151022
Lol, lmao

>>57150905
>Reminder that European governments are shilling for Biden because they want more free handouts. We (the United States) make cushy European welfare states possible by providing for, and thus subsidizing, their national defense at our own expense, to the point where it's bankrupting our country.
That is the cost of running an empire.

>>57149644
How do you know itsthe top? Wa etf and halving

>>57151093
What are you even invested in? RTX? Fuck you for instigating war with people who are on the other side of the world.

>>57151116
>running an empire
has been a disaster for the american people.

>>57149869
AADI

>>57151157
It's been a bigger disaster for Europe.

>>57151152
I'm sorry, who invaded who again?

>>57149403
>Have multiple girlfriends as well
You are the cause of the hoeflation problem, which is the cause of most woes in the western world. If all men banded together and agreed to have only one gf, the value of pussy would plummet quicker than a rugpulled shitcoin.

>>57150905
The only thing bankrupting the US is gibs

>>57150098
>tfw in (((Canada))) but I'm allowed to trade CFDs, forex, commodities, and metals with 500:1 leverage through an Australian broker
Feels neat

>>57151065
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>>57151096
>>57151101
>>57151116
The European government shills are absolutely triggered lmao. How about you useless fucks cut your welfare programs and start actually spending on your militaries? Right now your defense policy is to just subvert the US into providing all of your defense needs free of charge. Your election interference will *NOT* be tolerated.

>>57151220

>>57151204
Gotta buy those votes. Americans are so addicted to handouts that any talk of fiscal responsibility in the government is political suicide.

>>57151204
This to a point. The whole concept of S.S wasn't to give everyone money or help whoever applied. If you have a legit thing where you cannot work or you worked your ass off paying into it then yes you should get something back. Now on the other hand if your illegal, a healthy 20 something,etc you should get jack shat from the govt. Get up off your ass and work like everyone else. Parents should help their kids. Not coddle them though. A 30 year old dude living with his parents? Unless he's taking care of them due to some medical thing they should kick his deadbeat ass out.

>>57151258
OK KO boomer, get off your soap box.

Right now NATO is a welfare program where US taxpayers work themselves to death to subsidize the lazy lifestyles of Europeans who refuse to work. The European government pro-Biden shills in /smg/ want to keep it that way. Here is defense spending by NATO country:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/nato-spending-by-country

Europeans barely contribute and just mooch off of the United States, even though they're the ones that need protection from Russia the most.

>>57151258
>30 year old dude living with his parents?
This was never really a thing until housing prices and rent became unaffordable. I was lucky to get a good deal on an apartment, but an average 1 bedroom apartment that's not a complete slum is going to run you $1k plus utilities. It's pretty ridiculous.

>>57150988
The US is undergoing the same process as the UK did when it was the workshop of the world. They were about 40% of their GDP in 1850, and it dropped to 25% by the end of the century. This was because other industrialized nations arose in Europe, such as Germany and France, but these nations pretty much messed up twice. By the time of the Bretton Woods agreements and GATT around Eisenhower, the US accounted for 50% of the world's GDP. Nowadays, that figure sits at about 25%. And you've had:

>The independence of Africa, generally wrapped in wars and the occasional ethnic cleansing - a period of relative pacification in Africa from 1990 to 2010 - a recent resurfacing of local conflicts.
>The foundation of the EEA, which turned Europe into an economic bloc, making it the second-largest economy, and the transition into the EU where it was overtaken by China.
>Massive fuckups from China, like the Great Leap Forward - Deng Xiaoping's reforms - the return of communist rule under Xi Jinping.
>The Japanese economic miracle and the Four Asian Tigers.

But nowadays, pretty much every country in the northern hemisphere is losing population, except the US, so that figure will only go up, especially if we truly are on the verge of unlimited power through nuclear fission. The US is probably far from reaching its golden age.

>>57151232
The choice made is inflation, beneficial to us asset-owners.

>>57151258
Restrict social programs to proven citizens would solve many problems. Personally I'd restructure Social Security into a simple redistribution scheme. Tax everyone at a flat rate, redistribute evenly every quarter to every citizen. Pareto principal and wealth distributions would make this beneficial for 80% of recipients. Self-sustaining, no unfunded liabilities. Also smooths out unemployment volatility. None of this inter-generational ponzi nonsense & eliminate all other welfare.

>>57151296
Nobody cares Vlad. The life expectancy is like 55 in Russia you are wasting your limited life bitching the US won't let the Soviet Union come back. So sad! Pwease Amewica, pwease let us become powwuful again :(((

>>57151220
Poland spends more on their military as % of GDP than you do. Most relevant countries are above or around the 2% goal.
The US is stationed in Europe out of it's own accord, according to it's own interest. That's the price you have to pay to maintain a leadership role to reap the benefits that stems from it.
One of which is that Europeans keep buying your gas, and your military hardware, etc.
I have no idea what you mean by election interference, first time I've heard of it.

>>57151327
Post wall outlet with timestamp, euroshill.

>>57151296
I think the political influence this gives the US over the continent to effectively vassalize it is worth the money.

>>57151337
Kek I don't take orders from faggots, Russians, or Russian faggots like you.
>post you, in a tub, with a toaster plugged in, dropped into the tub

>>57151330
>United States: 3.52% of GDP
>Poland: 2.1% of GDP
You government shills have been spamming pro-Biden propaganda because you want the gravy train to continue. If you don't want our troops there, then you also won't mind when we totally withdraw from Europe and leave you to police the Suez Canal by yourself.

>>57151330
The US is absolutely vital to europe. No EU country on it´s own would take a stand to deter any further Russian aggressions, it would be like at the start of WW2 again. But if some US marine corps or some carrier stationed of the baltic were to be sunk by Russia they would have no choice, and quite frankly if the whole europe stopped pussy footing around they could handle Russia, in fact, i bet that Poland and Germany alone would be enough.

>>57151356
What fucking influence? The only influence that's happening right now is European governments trying to influence US elections to get more handouts.

>>57151358
So you admit to being another paid European government shill who is trying to subvert the 2024 presidential election.

>>57151379
Wrong. Poland is the highest right now. Greece was the highest 2022.
Here's a graph of 2023 spending as a % of GDP with no names attached. Which single country is subsidizing the rest?

OPEN THE FUCKIN MARKET

>>57151258
>A 30 year old dude living with his parents? Unless he's taking care of them due to some medical thing they should kick his deadbeat ass out.
But also run people out of their careers with h1b immigrants.
Boomers should be kicked out into the cold to freeze.

>futures

>>57151413
nice graph

>>57151413
Great, you've been spending on your military for one whole year, Mr. Polish government shill! Now post your debt to GDP ratio. Our is 130% from subsidizing your defense. What's yours?

>futures

>>57151438
>futures
https://youtu.be/xwtaekgVt9Q?feature=shared&t=27

>>57151411
>Kek I don't take orders..
>so you admit...
Kek I guess every Russian with an IQ over 90 has left the country. But yeah if it makes you feel better I'm getting NATO money to post in this thread while you do it for free just because of your love of Putin's necrotic cock. I'm making 6 figures posting in /smg/ about how NATO is based and you are a Russian faggot.

>>57151400
Yeah, I agree.
>Poland and Germany alone would be enough
Most likely, yeah. Russia is a paper dragon with empirical aspirations which it's not equipped to execute ever again. However, I think it's beneficial for the west to let them think that they're hot shit. Keep us on our toes and ready for real threats.

>>57151455

Oilbros we're BACK!

Wtf
>Oil
>Natgas
>stocks

>>57150224
I was looking up finance shit today and laughed at the fact that the child tax credit was only a $2000 deductible

>>57151430
Everything is geared to aid wall street. Inflation, outrageous home prices, record profits from companies, price gouging, the answer to this problem is to be invested in the market. Their gain is your gain. Notice how Democrats have done literally nothing to help the average Joe? It doesn't matter who is in office, wall street benefits either way. So stop fighting the system and get involved.

>>57151449
>>57151455
They don't look that bad and are still upward sloping.

>>57151487
>So stop fighting the system and get involved.
I completely disagree. You should work to decouple yourself from the system.

Remember earlier how the Polish government shills tried to laugh off the idea of the Polish government shilling for Biden in /smg/, but now in this thread they admit to being Polish without being prompted? Really makes you think.>>57151413 >>57151330 >>57151464 >>57151466

>>57151500
I'm not polish, Vlad. Go to bed, and take your meds before doing so.

>>57151495
Good luck swimming upstream then.

>>57151513
>everyone is Russian
That's exactly what the Polish government shills on /k/ do. You even referred to the United States in second person in your posts. Now you'll try to make up some cope excuse in your next post to divert attention from the fact that you work for the Polish government.

>>57150224
But that's the Natty King Mike O'Hearn

>>57151532
Yeah you caught me. I'm a government employee sent on a special mission to shill for the polish governments behalf in an obscure stock market thread.

>>57151559
You're here to shill for Biden because his reelection depends on the lie that he didn't fuck up the economy (he did).

Im actually thinking of investing in polish paper mill companies, it´s been a while since i last checked data for that, but they seemed to have solid fundamentals for that industry.

>>57151574
That too. The polish government and the biden administration sent me - it's a joint effort.

>>57151478
When you contrast that against the 7500 EV tax credit, it's obvious what the government actually values.

When you think about it name the biggest scam in the modern world today? The Vatican church. Landlocked. It's own private thing. No taxes. No real military. It prints money. I'm not saying religion itself is a sham; hey believe in what you want. But I'm just saying the institution itself is richer in hell. All those donations given out in the name of "soul saving" on behalf of the sheep every sunday like clockwork. I know all about it. I was dragged to a church by my grandparents in my younger years; biggest scam ever. But it all worked out, uh me and a girl kinda did some "sinning" in an unused room one day. Hey you meet girls everywhere you know. Now granted we didn't fuck, no time for that sadly, but there was time for her to put her uh mouth to use on my cock. What? I was 15 for shat sake.

FUTURES

2024 IS OUR YEAR

>>57151576
Based.

>>57151593
>It prints money.
At least the Church isn't charging it's attendees. Private college is the ultimate non-profit scam.

>>57151589
>haha state-sponsored election interference against a supposed "ally" is a funny joke, let's all have a good laugh about it Xd

Well anon's it's January 1st, did you put money into your HSA and Roth IRA?

>>57151615
No I have no money

>>57150167
Why no mara?
Ive read someone say here citing a paper that said betting on the big guys is more profitable. Having said that, does bitf have undervalued price for some reason? Mmara looks overbought as fuck

Im just looking for a realistic 3x yolo so i can move from my moms basement and rent a place live the neet dream

>>57151593
No, what should really happen is that the UN should be evicted from New York and instead a new antipope should be proclaimed in the US with the goal of mending every christian schism within every democratic christian nations, and countries like Japan be given special status.

>>57151559
We're all just government shills here. Getting paid by the state to monitor tiny autism daycare centers like /smg/. I myself work for Israel.

>>57151615
please refrain from posting cute asians on /smg/ thank you

>>57151613
I think it's funny. I thought about telling you how we're always watching, shilling from the shadows - but decided against it considering your paranoid bent. You seem unstable.

>>57151643
I work for china

>>57151523
That's not upstream, that's just sitting on the shore.
Swimming upstream is trying to be productive despite everything being built to prevent that.

this is the bottom for BABA and JD am I right Burry-Bros?

>>57151559
Since we are all whistle blowing; I too am an agent of an certain alphabet group. But I am the insider that plays devil advocate. If only we didn't have a certain user who smokes meth

>>57151658
Biden is going to lose the election, and then your world is going to fall apart.

>>57151689
outdated meme, twitter is based x now

Someone please explain to me how precious metal fags aren't coping

>>57151691
Biden is going to win. I've already filled out 10k ballots from my home in Poland, and I'm sending them to Detroit. We will stuff them in ballots and Michigan will go red. We have other people who will be sending ballots to other states. Biden will when thanks to the /smg/ Polish shills. And there is nothing you can do about it. Sorry bro.

>>57151706
Missouri v. Biden,
>Never forget

>>57151623
Bitf is the shit. They got a lot of $ and are using a lot of hydro to mine bitcorns. They involved hydro quebec too, that's a 3x minimum right there. I want to sell 5-10k shares every $1.5-$2 it goes up

>>57151725
This.
Polish /smg/ shills are not the be fucked with. We've steered human affairs since the days of the pharaohs.

>futures
https://youtu.be/38glJFNB5DU

>>57151662
Ni hao from the IDF!

>>57150267
Millennials have much lower divorce rates than Gen X and boomers.

>>57151691
I'm ridin on biden.
>Obama 4th term

>>57151022
>>57151034
>id: cumrag

>>57151769
Probably because millennial men are all largely single. Can't get divorced if you don't get married. We're all in are moving mid 30's working are self to death to support the boomers retirement, and supplement zoomers Xanax prescriptions via Medicaid.

>>57151798
>are

>>57151740
free speech is overrated
99% of things people say publicly is said by narcissistic faggots who need to shut the fuck up
without free speech intelligent individuals like myself would not feel the need to read anything because it would all be the same and very predictable. It would be a better World. The weak should fear the strong.

>>57151798
The point still stands. It's divorce rate not total.

Irony being I actually do work for the govt. Although a state one. I say constantly that I "do nothing" which well yeah sometimes it means exactly that but in reality it means I can't just blurt out what I do. When your orbit circles the highest levels in govt you gotta be vague on the details. (Governor,Lt Governor, various other high level people and agencies; my orbit is vast). Not to bad for a dude who started out working on a farm and didn't go to college.

>>57151808
Sorry, English isn't my first language. Maybe this will help.

כנראה בגלל שגברים בני דור המילניום כולם ברובם רווקים. אי אפשר להתגרש אם לא מתחתנים. כולנו באמצע שנות ה-30 לחיינו עובדים על עצמנו עד מוות כדי לתמוך בפרישה של הבומים, ולהשלים את מרשמי Xanax באמצעות Medicaid.

>>57151857
לך תזדיין, ידיים שמנות.

Tell me prophets of SMG
is this the beginning of the Golden swan Crab?

Golden Swan Crab of Stagflation

Arise Crackwan

God dammit I can't believe the AI slop is still flowing

Premium Selling Golden Swan activate

>>57151877
לא אתה

>>57151906
>>57151878
>>57151887
>>57151898
not any more off by 1 3x

I summon you Bearish Swan bring forth calamity

Dark SwanBear arise

>>57151906
seethe

Swanbear of Suffering I summon thee

White Swan and Golden Bull Grace us with your presence

Uh what are you guys doing

The tide Rises for the Golden Bull and Swan

Gold and Prosperity in these Dark times

It may rain but the grass grows ever more Golden beneath the eyes of the bull and swan

Based bull poster.

well I've got my position for the new year. LEAPS>>57151999

>2022: bro imagine all the porn
>2024: we're making farm animals

>>57151973
I need you to make me one where taylor swift in a white wedding dress rides a golden bull like that. I will even say please if I have to.

a cowgirl outfit would be better

>>57152017
Porn always go first with new tech but after that things branch out

>>57151991
looks like the white swan had a harder landing than the economy

>>57151978
not talking stocks or economics; that is for damn sure. Can we please go over fundementals for tonight? I would like to see the liquidity of the reserves, compared to the liquidity of the central bank, compared to amount of dollars in circulation; all this backdropped by interest rates/unemployment/Arbitrage

>>57151593
>Organized religion is a scam
>>57151605
>They have Tithes and a long history of taking money from all sorts

>Verification not required.

>>57151007
why is this board so horny

i ended up fapping while on my way to /smg/
i forgot waht iw as going to talk about now
didnt even read what that post was about, only looked at webm

>>57152062
I'd like to see Rocker dance with scoopsies puppet into the new year.

>>57152062
>talking stocks or investments on /smg/
Lol. Lmao even.

>>57152017
Agriculture is the lifeblood of humanity.

>>57152062
>Can we please go over fundementals for tonight?
Why bother? Not like anything is trading on fundamentals right now anyway..

>>57152074
>holding a vape the whole time.
I hate zoomers so much it's unreal. They can even make something as old as smoking cringe.

>>57152074
I want to bang her.

>>57152062
fundamentals? what do you think about pic related

it's pennyshit im going buy more ttomorrow with my new FHSA contribution room
cash increased by $11 million YoY as well (actual cash + decrease in debt)
market cap is 50 million, i swear the only reason it's going up is because people are noticing it in screeners but the company itself does not put any effort in publicity

Great... REA is now offering renting apartments.
https://www.realestate.com.au/rent/property-house-between-0-50/list-1?source=refinement

Very interesting to see if and how the renter's market will correct.

REA is an Australian company.
Government in Australia does offer public housing, however.

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-sa-woodside-437996260
Warehouses can be rented for $160/month

Renting is however a dishonest market. Perpetuating this market is problematic from a moral perspective, which negatively affects other areas of society.

>>57152192
Yeah then you have to pay the astronomical utility costs of the building.

Anyone know why the Polish currency (PLN) was suddenly rugpulled a few minutes ago?

Is the earthquake tsunami in Japan bullish
for
URANIUM?

>>57152217
Poland largely rejects globohomo. There are consequences for that.

>>57152163
This doesn't paint a good picture on the cash flow. IT looks like the money is shifting through scale but the operating expense to revenue is off when compared to total assets. What is the ticker? I can do more DD for ya!

>>57149322
invest accordingly in 2024

>>57152224
If any young Japanese girls have had their home destroyed by the earthquake today, my home is open for them to move in.

>>57152255
same here but i only have 1 bed. we can share

>>57152217
Woah. Is it some Euro bond thing? What the hell happened?

>>57152214
Utility of the tool from a business perspective does indeed make the tool valuable.
As businesses could use such a tool for financial services to save money for temporary operations.

However most people will utilize the service for renting. The actual market is different from the practical purpose. Civilians should outright own homes, people on holiday should rent.
Businesses should purchase or rent buildings after mathematically determining ROI from factual tested numbers.

>>57152243
>abrosexual
*sigh* I'm not even going to bother looking up what that mental illness is.

>>57152163
Looks cheap, but I've seen cheaper. Think about it this way:
At a 5x multiple and neutral cash balance, it would take 5 years to recoup your investment assuming you extract every penny. You could look at this as a 20% annualized return, but arguably it's 25%. If there is efficient capital use or organic growth on top of the current profits, even better. I'm not really seeing such an increase in cash in the data though. Those financials show 3 mil in profit, so if cashflow was 10 mil there must've been some timing with sales/revenue recognition, or some other one off cashflow impact, or perhaps you're reading the balance sheet wrong.

The primary problem for me is that I make more money trading, and for most of the rest of this thread - they wouldn't have the confidence to hold that a value stock. Not to mention the risk that the company squanders those profits or sees some fundamental shift due to competitive pressures or industry dynamics, as is common among microcaps. A successful microcap is simply called a large cap. So there's no need to play Gatekeeper over a Canadian ticker that realistically no one in this thread is gonna care about anyway.

>>57152274
No idea, that's why I'm asking

>>57152302
That's like a nearly instantaneous 26% drop where the weekly sd is like 1%.
Someone must have typoed something.

>>57151717
>Portfolio Growth
>(((inflation-adjusted)))
kek CPI is a completely fake and gay number. every “inflation-adjusted” number is just as inaccurate as it’s non-inflation-adjusted counterpart.

>>57152288
I just fucked up my search history. there is no meaning. Just a human being, being human.

>>57151717
You understand what happens if the line goes too high?

>>57152312
Right this morning UTC you can see a dip and then around lunch time EST (5:00 PM UTC) the crash starts and then ends almost exactly midnight.

It feels like an algo thing or maybe something to do with the year rolling over.

so what is this scam market going to be doing this year?

>Alibaba

https://youtu.be/4qlCC1GOwFw?t=39

>>57149869
VNTRF
huge buy from hedge funds on that one
Also MIGI

>>57152359
Using Google kek, it's fine anon. Picrel

>>57149986
Based Wesker

>futures

>>57152415
I don't normally do forex heh.

>>57152422
futures green and bears already coping

>>57152442
My only complaint is that I hoping to switch to going short some time this year... but if stocks keep going up I may never get to do that...
I'll never get to be one of the smug bobos

>>57152415
>that dip after the russian airstrikes managed to land a bomb in Poland

Sadly i wasn't paying attention to the news last week

>BTC $45k
You guys didn't sell your MARA, MSTR, or COIN last week out of panic, right??

>>57152467
>MARA
If you didn't sell at $30, you're an actual retard. I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you.

...so they've recently managed to perform nuclear fusion with lasers which produces more energy than it takes. That's pretty bullish, isn't it? Which companies do I buy to have sub-salt&pepper growth for the next 30 years but then suddenly 13,000x my money over 10?

>>57152519
I highly doubt there are any publicly traded fusion companies, anon.

>>57152518
Oh, I wouldn't touch any of those stocks with a 10 ft pole. I dislike crypto very much. Just wondering if anyone sold out of MARA during the dip.

>>57152555
Not yet but even just knowing which companies are making the lasers could be useful now. Fusion isn't fake and gay like ai and tech in general, it's literally going to propel us a rung up the Kardashev scale as a species. I'm getting in on the foundation somehow.

Are you going to make money this year /smg/?

>>57152603
No

>>57152603
Of course.

>>57152603
You mean from like a job?
Probably not, my industry is fucked and not hiring
From investing? I hope so...

>>57152577
>no, I’ve no interest in making money at this time

twitter is talking of BOWL. tell me about biz view

>>57152647
$100 for the shelves

>>57150167
Sell shitfarms and buy MARA or MSTR

>>57152671
Migi

>>57152235
GSI.V
im the only one left holding after it was first shilled in 2020 before the first peak

Bump

>>57152603
sure

new

>>57152895
>>57152895
>>57152895

ASTS is finally launching 5 commercial satellites this quarter with SpaceX. Gonna be make it or break it for the company. No delay and the stock moons or dilution and decline.
Best lotto ticket imho

>>57151593
repent