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>losers average losers

based

The s&p is losing steam, mumucucks

WE ARE BEARISH NOW

Am I the only one holding MARA and everyone has sold?

It's over. I'm ruined. And I can't even buy rope because holiday weekend.

Thinking about going into VGT over QQQ for long term investing.
VGT has a better return and less expense. Seems like a nobrainer but am I missing something?

Jan 26th 33c SOXL. Poor play?

>>57122283
No I'm also holding

Just constant crabbing, I want a breakout from this tight range even if it's a small one

>>57122288
What happened

>>57122289
well VGT is the official tech sector of the SPX, if it's for several years, it's fine. XLK is even more official

Bobo cucks celebrating 0.1% in red lol

Go back the fuck up! SPX needs to see all time highs you fucks! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

Why did LLAP stop pumping?

>>57122344
>muh $2.6b backlog

scam

>>57122339
Imagine owning Walmart stock.
Lol.

I am financially ruined

>>57122259
Mara bros....

>>57122283
>>57122295
I'm holding jan 12 calls
so worst case scenario I have a ticket for entry to the sell-the-news/buy-the-news event
But at this point I'm thinking that not only is it a sell-the-news event, but it's being front run as well

>>57122283
I'm holding as well

are we gonna have an end of the year awards?

to see who did the worst and who did the best. i think im strong in the worst department

I'm am financially become death, destroyer of CAGR

>>57122368
>Holding calls on mara instead of just buying the insanely volatile stock
Not gonna make it. Why the fuck would you want theta decay and leverage on a stock that makes moves like -10% in a day kek

Turns out just buying was the best decision I've ever made. Fugg trading. Ez +50% just by buying and holding the big boys. Is it ridiculous to have +55% on the NASDAQ? Yes... but Bidenomics for the win.
I have to wonder though, what could possibly bring down the indices now? There is no war on the horizon, economy is fine, earnings are batshit crazy, peoples' spending habits are ridiculous and keep getting more ridiculous, mortgage applications are up despite being 7%, and JPow is extremely dovish. What is the catalyst to possibly bring down the market? I seriously cannot think of anything bearish enough

>>57122344
LLAP is literally a pump and dump scam

>>57122389
>what could possibly bring down the indices now?
Niggers.

>>57122344
It triggered my stop loss today so I'm out

>>57122361
It's over for Martha. Go back to cleaning hotels you dirty mehxcian. Big red dildo with a follow up red gang bang red dildo.

ES=4800
NQ=17000

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>>57122387
isn't the entire point of buying options to capitalize on volatility?
but I think I get what you mean, if I was holding stocks then I could just wait out this storm and sell any time

>>57122389
i yesterday watched a stock i day traded year or two ago. since then it went from 2 to 6.

so a buy and hold would have been so much better.

Imagine the democrats letting everyone getting home from the holidays and looking at their 401ks and seeing it not at ath

and wallah, just like that, BTC and MARA both hit the support level and can recover from here

Its beyond over. Stocks will NEVER be green again

What do I think of AEHR?
Bidet is funding chips.

>>57122417
Sometimes people buy them because there's no other way to get that much leverage otherwise.

Can we please stop getting sharp pullbacks with every move?

>>57122436
They should pump 2024 Q1.

>>57122417
>isn't the entire point of buying options to capitalize on volatility?
Only if the volatility is unidirectional, short term and you're confident about that direction. Also the whole point of options is trading on stock that isn't that volatile in terms of relative change (% up/down), and mara is INSANELY volatile.

>>57122435
I'm in the red

>>57122456
No. Its over for stocks. They are red and going down

This is the biggest crash we have seen in our life time. SOMEBODY MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's finally happening

>>57122459
>Options are for unilateral volatility

Just say you don't understand options strategies.

Sup faggots

what are your top stock picks for 2024 ?

SUICIDE WITH NO SURVIVOR IS THE ONLY OPTION

>>57122493
SAVA

He mentioned SAVA. Lol.

>BIG FAT DUMPIES

SAVE 15.5C eod.
double your money

>>57122465
>$26 support getting broken
welp, looks like we are heading to $23 at least today

I pulled an all nighter and finished my retarded 7 AM standup meeting with East Coastoids. Now going to watch my shitco lines go up or down for le epic dipshit casino

if MARA doesnt do +10% today i'll be holding an extremely stern phone call with my female broker

>shorts fail several times already
>go in short again expecting a selloff after 45 minute of chop and failing to push back up to the previous swing high
>capture 40 points

>>57122528
God I hope not, I entered in 26.18. should have sold on 29

>>57122487
come back in 1hour when we are green again

>>57122481
They literally are lmfao

I just learned dividends are not percentage given in addition to your holdings but rather a percentage taken out of the stock price and given in cash.

Someone explain why I would want this?

I would love if for any wizards out there to show their memelines and if this is a good dip to buy..

GENTLEMEN, PREAPRE TO DEFEND YOURSELVES!

>>57122563
there is zero reason to be bearish bro

>>57122563
I wouldn't. The next month and a half will be tough. Q2 will be better. But that's just my thinking.

holy shiet my yesterdays forecasting would have been huge trade so far. dunno how "lucky" i am that the market is shitting itself too.

my female broker doesnt allow me to short so i couldnt play it.

>>57122586
Do you have any reason for that?

Folks, this is it. The Joe Biden fraud is at an end. It turns out that things are in fact, not better than ever. A revision was issued that says things are in fact now worse than ever. The market is responding accordingly. The fraud is over. Prepare for the depression.

end of year crash, just as planned

>>57122289
you might as well go at least 2X leveraged with QLD. 2X has proved to be safe for long term holds, 3X is too if you have a risk mitigation strategy/hedge

>>57122459
You're wrong depending on the strike. Puts can increase in value when a stock is squeezing. People literally have masters degrees for modeling Black Scholes with ARIMA / SARIMA / LSTM /whatever the fuck.

It's not as simple as "le stock heckin goes up? so puts must go down!"

is it finally time to buy soxs

>>57122590
Relative to a couple of months ago liquidity is in the shitter. Yields will rip, equities will suffer. Also JPM Collar was put on going into heavy green which means the market is likely to bleed for the next couple of days.

>>57122563
Come on bro. Look at the graph and decide for yourself. To me, it's obvious that every dip is getting insta slurped and that new highs are coming. Tech earnings are looking extremely bullish in 2024. I fail to see more than 5% dip from these levels

Friday. Time to bogle.

Just slurped MARA calls ama

>>57122562
Mature companies giving shareholders their excess cash prevents them from building a metaverse and losing the plot. Though a lot of dividend distributing companies kind of lose the plot anyway carrying retarded amounts of debt they really should be deleveraging.

my theory is this is just bullying people before new years.

>>57122259
Fuck, SPY did not hit 480 today. Welp guess I'm killing myself as promised. Fuck yall once last time.

>>57122636
is mara buttcoin related company? if it is why arent people buying coin?

STOP THE FUCKING COUNT

>>57122666
Numbers don't lie

>>57122459
Not necessarily. For example you can buy a call then create a delta neutral position by buying and selling the corresponding number of shares as the price moves. This is a long volatility position but requires no directionality.

>>57122528
Are you selling against potentially bigger loses?

Stinky market goyim

>>57122708

>>57122681
Germans stopped the fucking count at 14:00 CET
DAX up 0.3%
Learn from Germany, ameriburgers

Where's the PUMP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>57122729
>he's not shorting

>>57122728
kek

January opex max pain is so low and a lot of ta is lining it up with it.

Another day. Of relaxation, no alarm clock beep,beep,beep sound and in general being a lazy bum. Don't gotta do nothing.

>>57122758
oh sure sure, gerald...

>>57122646
But they aren’t actually giving excess cash because the dollar value ends up the same. After distribution, just more cash less share value. So no money is made off dividends?

>>57122766
Still in massive credit card debt?

ITS OVER

Day 25 of this incredible buying opportunity.

>treasury yields rising
>DXY rising
>stocks dumping
>junk bonds pumping like always
Are junk bonds really the new safe haven?

Oh my god what the hell is happening to mara

The music stopped

>Pajeet from shitland gloats about firing white people to get a bonus
Hahahaha

>>57122766
Isn't that basically every day for you KO Boomer?

WTF I BOUGHT YESTERDAY AAAAH

>>57122791
meet me at the dragstrip

>>57122769
The share price doesn't exist in a vacuum even if markets aren't exactly efficient. The company makes money that goes on their balance sheet and is then expected to do something with that money.

>>57122796
It's over

>>57122389
>What is the catalyst to possibly bring down the market? I seriously cannot think of anything bearish enough
Lack of observation on your part, there are many.
This isn't an extensive list by any means.
Personally I'm waiting for the unemployment signals to start popping. If it hits 3.9-4% you're gonna see some serious shit.

>that Microsoft dump
What the actual fuck
I'm gonna wake up to -90% on my MSFT calls on Tuesday, aren't I

Why do people do technical analysis? Isnt it all a bunch of bullshit?

>>57122845

>>57122845
Yes it is. Memelines, RSI, MACD, etc are the hallmarks of a newbie.

>>57122845
Don't worry about technicals, tar-, I mean fren. Just watch line go up. Recessions literally never happen.

>>57122879
that sounds like you are arguing fundamentals

>>57122879
Not during Democrat presidency, but don’t let facts stop you.

So what are we buying on the 1st of the new year? Lost 200 bucks on mara to stop losses from escalating

Get ready MIMO is about to change the world boys

>>57122769
In theory research suggests dividend payments alone don't have much impact on a stock's total return over the long term. Whether the company holds it as cash or pays it out the value of that asset should be the same.

On the other hand, market pricing isn't perfectly efficient and dividend paying stocks do outperform the average even if the reason for their outperformance isn't necessarily the fact that they pay a dividend per se. Pic related comes from a report by JP Morgan's equities group. Probably the need to be a profitable company that makes long term projections of what kind of dividend payments they can afford using privileged insider information is what makes dividend paying companies perform better than the pure math would suggest.

>>57122893
buy SPXL before close today

The put spreads I had were getting fucked so I covered the shorts and let the longs run and made like 10 times more than I thought I was going to make on the spreads. #don'tlose

>>57122891
I can't even be bothered to look up whether you're wrong but this sounds fuckin dumb.

>>57122361
Never lost $2,000 in one day before…

>>57122879
>Technicals are the best predictors of recessions
This is the average brain of a TAtard, everybody

QQQ is going to shave off about 10% at least in the days ahead.

>>57122913
I lost 200. I'm out for now

>>57122914
>strawman

>>57122923
Good. I want in.

>>57122914
you inserted your own bs and called the other person a tard.

dude wtf

>>57122928
>>57122938
How does it feel to believe in literal star signs, just for stocks kek? What is my pattern right now, the double top smug inverted triple wedge? LMAO

>>57122845
Technical analysis works until it doesn't, which is very often. All I have on my chart are a moving average, VWAP, and volume. Technical indicators are retarded and you're begging to lose money if you rely on them, unless you're the guy that made the indicator and know how to balance your risk

>>57122776
>>57122805
I paid the debt off. Thanks to SAVE profit. Before they could stick me with interest fees. But yeah mostly everyday is a "do nothing" day. But seldom do I get it other than the weekend where I have to listen to the beep,beep,beep of the alarm clock.

>>57122957
>What is my pattern right now
your pattern - being a huge faggot - is easy to recognize

I’m just gonna hold off selling these sqqq calls exp end of January…

I'm announcing that Burger King is the most vile fucking shithole joint I've ever had the displeasure of eating food from.

Short QSR. It should go to zero.

Nintendo bros?? Why are we winning so fucking hard today? I’m thinking insiders know something about switch 2

>>57122989
Their burgers are good tho

This is a big selloff

>>57122989
I feel this way about my local sonic
Burgers are inedible

This is the big one!

>>57122999
checked.

last fridays low was lower than we are now.

>>57122958
to be honest, i dont bother with any of that. I recently adjusted my strategy to just dump my money into companies that have track record of growing faster than the SP 500 and who are said to have good fundamentals and wait. i also bought 100 usd worth of shekels to see what happens until February or whenever the war is over.

OOOoouuuu....

good morning /smg/ I just got back from work......

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>>57122999
Full house digits.

>>57123008

I'm actually curious now how much I'll be down when German stonks reopen on Tuesday kek
500 bucks? More?

thank goodness I am invested in stuff that can't possibly get any lower

SOFR is moving

>American indexes going down 0.5% after a month and a half of 15+ % growth
>At that time of the year where it´s expected to that investors will reshuffle around their money
>People are freaking out

How many of you are using leveraged calls?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>57123081
It's the last trading day of the year as well as being a Friday and people are surprised there is a strong trend. What's worse is people thinking they can time the bottom, instead of just going short and joining the trend

>>57123081
you don't understand
something about howling monkeys and farty tigers leaving the cave and quiet forests

How we feeling about semiconductors in 2024

>imagine not know what Jpow and the fed has seen in the data
Why do you think he tried to do a pivot so hard? The economy is fucked and it’s actually showing up hard in the data they’re seeing and hearing from companies… This is shaping up just like the end of 2007

How does the IRS enforce wash sale rules if you sell on the last day of the trading year and buy back on the first day next year? Won't your 1099 report it as a loss?

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

https://youtu.be/zTuD8k3JvxQ?t=43

>>57122924
200 and you’re done? Damn.

>>57123102
Who fucking knows, last two earnings have done fuck all because theyre so overbought....yet here we are with amd over 1000 p/e

>>57123111
>This is shaping up just like the end of 2007
Yeah, no - not at all. There won't be any credit events or black swans. BTFP got the small banks covered. That said, we're still headed lower.

>>57123124
Your broker will mark the re-purchase as being a "Wash Sale"d purchase, and it will affect your taxes when you sell the it later.

Lol aaaaand it's already over
ONLY UP HERE FROM NOW

>>57123102
buttcoins and AI so bullish

>>57123124
yeah no, IRS isnt that stupid lol. today isnt wash sale loss day then tues will be a melt up.

>>57122259
Just slurped up more TUP, baby jewess going to deliver.

Gunna walk my puppy and buy cigarettes. I got a grand I wanna play around with so tell me what to buy guys.

I’m actually becoming a bear for the first time in a long time. We are at a point where a soft landing is being priced in. Rediculous optimism

>>57123098
But SOXL, UPRO, even SPY are so overvalued. Not sure if I should buy after taking a $2,000 hit on MARA this week.

>>57123166
BUY LIFE INSURANCE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ITS SO RED

>>57123098
What trend? At what point did the bull market switch to a bear market?

clear market sell off before end of the year due to tax purposes. I'm sure new year the market will be green

What's up lads, don't know where else this is relevant to ask outside of making a thread.

Does anyone know what access the British government has to your stocks and shares holdings?

I'm recently facing redundancy after near a decade of employment. I've got a few K in stocks, not a lot (sub 16) but according to the benefits calculators it's enough to tank my council tax reduction by a fair few quid. JSA is unaffected apparently and is the meat of the payment, but last time I was on that shit those fuckers hound the shit out of you daily and nightly to look for any reason not to pay you, unless you're a nigger of course.

I know they can check your bank accounts without consent, but is there any way for them to find out about a trading account/Stocks&Shares ISA, or what is held in it? Or can I just get away with lying them to get some of my tax money back before it goes to niggers.

>>57123181
Right. This. Very. Hold on. Hollllllllld onnnnnn. Let me consult the humming rocks. Okay, right now.

>>57123170
I don't care about whether the indices are "overvalued" or "undervalued". I trade based on what I see, and today I figured would be a bear day. You could argue the NQ was overvalued at 16400 last month and we ended up rallying to new all time highs. Overvalued and undervalued don't really mean much because the market doesn't work logically
>>57123181
The trend where we sold off for over an hour from 17100 to 16940 with minimal pullback.

>>57123200
>he invested without a loicense

I would assume they know everything, bongistab being as dystopian as it is.

>>57123200
do you give them tax reports? from there they could sniff out ur stockies

>>57123158
I know, I expect them be a lot more sophisticated than some dumb guy with a mobile brokerage app (me). I was just wondering how mechanically they enforce it.

>>57122912
Cope, magatard. I bet you’re also eurotrash descended. Kys

All my weeks gains, gone. I blame Indians.

>>57123124
There has to be a 30 day gap. You sell on the 15th of Dec. You buy on 15th of Jan. No wash sale applied. You buy that stock at any point before the 15th then wham wash sale.

>>57123223
kek

>>57123231
Nope. It's a stocks & shares ISA so I don't need to declare any gains, but the fact that it's an ISA in the first place gives me pause as you're only allowed so many so there might be a big sticker on my name somewhere saying "this guy has an ISA".

>>57123211
That’s smart. Might get into SPY, VOO, with some UPRO sprinkled in.

>>57123256
I dunno if we're going to be going to even higher highs, but who really knows. NQ might go to 18000 next year, or we might sell off back below 16000.

>>57123237
as
>>57123137
said your broker keeps track of it.

MARA Chads, you aren't panic selling like little bitch niggers into what is clearly an options expiry day being pinned to $25 by market makers.

>>57123290
It’s still vewy scawy…

>IT'S SO OOVER

>>57123271
I feel rugged.

>>57123290
What does this mean? Options are expiring so MARA is dumping?

trying to withdraw money from a td account to my bank acct. how come sometimes when i sell shares the proceeds go towards 'cash available for withdraw' and other times they just go towards lowering my margin amt? ie i will sell $1k worth of shares but only 500 will go towards cash and the remaining 500 will automatically go towards reducing my margin debt. this is an acct under my name that is managed by someone else so idk too much about how margin works. thx.

>>57122991

Plz respond. 3.5% in a day indicates some shit is going down

>still not even close to breaking even from my attempts to short all week
I'm a nigger. I'm a fucking dumb retard gorilla ass nigger fuck. The blackest fucking gorilla retard nigger.

Tom lee asked chuck norris to fight, but chuck norris said no

>>57122407
>MARA shares outstanding
what do you get if you take bitcoin's fixed 21M coin supply and sell people a couple million paper claims to a tiny slice of that supply and then print 200M more claims and redeem them yourself?
you get a ponzi scam
wow weird ANOTHER crypto ponzi scam??? really makes you think

>>57123290
are you every going to do any real work or are you just going to be a faggot your whole life?

>>57122417
>buying
no. you're paying for volatility when you buy. you're being paid the premium when you sell.

WTF happened to spy

>>57123381
>Switch too rumors
>>>/v/

>>57123376
That means you're in the red jack. The person managing it is losing.

>>57122437
no way to know if the technology has a lasting foothold, in my view. they're just a part of the QA process, it could change at any time.
they are on my russell 2000 "top performers" short list, though. healthy, well-run company.
question is whether you can predict what wafer fab will look like 20, or even 10, or even 5 years from now.
so, what's your edge? how long did you work in a clean room?

>>57123376
"Thanks for playing!"

>>57122563
idiot-free /smg/ today please, thank you

>>57123290
>table ends right where her leg begins
ngl you almost had me with this one

>>57122562
>taken out of the stock price
actual fucking retard. it comes out of net income. it's the company's money, not the market's money.

>XXXX

>buy shekels with an exchange rate of 3.60 usd
>it goes up to 3.62, meaning im losing money
>today it goes down to 3.59, my profits are marked as something like 16 dollars
>all of the sudden it goes down to 3.58 and the profit i was making is now marked as a 26 dollars loss
>but in a closer view of that investment it keeps telling me my daily returns were 16 dollars

Did i choose the wrong broker or the wrong currency?

>>57122563
>if this is a good dip to buy
It will be, but not yet.

>>57122769
that only happens to equities that are plagued by dividend-stripping algorithm traders, such as large REITs, and the other bond-likes. a program overseeing assets that are all fixed income, with $1 in its hand, can only earn the portfolio's yield. elon musk, with $1 in his hand, can raise $10 from morons like you.

>>57123463
Wrong currency anon. Don’t play around with Israelis. Their stink will wash off on you.

>>57123418
>switch pro is coming for real this time you guys in two weeks
>I know I’ve said this twenty times in the past, but this time it’s really coming in two weeks

MARA at $23 now
HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE COMEBACK?!

>>57123494
Just your weekly smgger pump and dump.

THEY'RE GONNA PROBABLY HALT TRADING
WE CAN'T STOP THE SELLING
EVEN CRAMER DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK

Buddy look at TLT computer.

Can't believe we're ending the year red. What a horrible thing.

>a cybertruck bounced off a shitty driver who slid across the road
>low speed accident, driver/passengers declined medical
>the body panels on the whole left side of the car folded and misaligned
>the front glass is smashed
>the driver and passengers were spotted standing around having apparently climbed out the driver window which is down
>its not 100% clear yet how bad the damage really is, but
>TSLA twitter on actual damage control today, ramped up into overdrive
>me thinks the lady doth protest too much
enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nol7jOxtMRE
from today i reckon TSLA maybe -15% to -20% at the end of jan 2024.

>>57123494
So obvious to short. If you didn’t make 100k in 0dte oom puts you literally will never make it.

>>57123484
But help me make sense of this. Shouldn´t i be making money from it going below 3.60? I just want to understand if it´s the markets fucking me over, or my broker.

>>57123552
"That'll be $25,000 for repairs."

>>57123552
More and more cars can't take the smallest collision but this thing looks like its done from a fender bender lol

>WEWKQ down 97% at opening
>Now up 3%

Just OTC things.

>>57123552
>Ha. Ha didn't read buying more, jokes on you TSLA is only at a 75 P/E (very cheap). I'll make back my initial investment in 75 years.

>>57123524
damn i was hoping it'd go down a little more to load up another call, just sine waving its way up all day instead

Fender bender?

>>57123552
You stupid fucks still think it's about the build quality or even the cars at all? TSLA is a fucking cult of gamma squeeze pumping retards and you will get fucked if you attempt to short it.

It's literally just people who were late last time selling before year ends.

>>57123463
>>57123556
Your broker is either shit at their job or charging some kind of bullshit interest. Possibly both.

I bought NINE because some anon here told me to lol

>>57123645
Should've bought FIVE. It's a better deal.

>>57122845
TA works because enough market particpants use it. e.g bids and stops clustered around x day MA. Most banks, funds and traders use it in some form but in conjunction with proper fundamental analysis - look at linkedin, there are real technical analysts employed at big shops

Gee I wonder why all the burgers are selling on the final date of their tax season
It must be the final collapse of the US empire that Zero Hedge has been telling me is coming in two weeks, no other possible explanation

>>57123645
>>57123664
>they don't know seven eight nine

>>57123677
> Zero Hedge has been telling me is coming the last twenty years

Ftfy

What’s this pattern called?

>had over $10k of gains on jan/feb MARA calls
>waiting to sell until next week to defer tax
>between yesterday and today lose 2x what the tax would have been had I just sold
Want to fucking kms bros

>>57123700
It’s called a scam I could lose $14k on. And charge your fucking phone.

So 227 tesla? 180 apple? Who else wants to guess lows

>>57123700
it's called a correction, as in the market is "correcting" the value of the stock, which should at most be $12-15. This is also why I have been posting here everyday for people to buy puts. Maybe if bitcoin goes to 100k and maybe if mara does not dilute their stock by another 100million shares it will trade at 20, but why not just be in bitcoin in that case?

>>57123290
i LOVE "ANALYSIS" LIKE THIS. If "options expiry day" was such a well known bear signal why didnt all of you experts sell? Fucking mong retard

>>57122283
I bought at $70k at 15 about three weeks ago and (panic) sold about half my position today for $50k. I'm still holding 2500 shares of MARA so I'm still on board the rollercoaster with the rest of you. Good luck to all of us!
>>57122295
>>57122368
>>57122372

It should go without saying, but never hold a zero-revenue company when people can't shut the fuck up about it. Or it is the subject of a six-figure brag post on the front page of reddit.

>meme lines don’t work

>tfw accidentally made a limit order instead of a stop order.

>>57123757
500 shares here. Feels like an AA meeting, tho….

>>57123692
>muh recency bias
>babbys first stock trade, by FisherPrice

You need to be over 18 to post on 4chan.

>>57123792
BULLISH (rocket) (rocket)

>>57123768
So were is it going to go next?

>>57123829
Prbly 20$. Don’t you me faggot

>>57123552
Oh good. I was worried I had gotten priced out after selling when I realized they used niggers to model all their apparel.

Gape your anus

>>57123869
>The stock market is total legit

>>57123644

my broker is etoro, and the first day it didn't charge anything, but over the following week it charged me about 90 cents total on overnight fees.
now, if i set a take profit at 3.59 it says i would make something like 6 dollars, and that´s exactly where the exchange rate is, but my broker tells me im in the red for about 25 dollars when just about an hour ago when i checked that it was still at 3.60 i was short on 3 dollars, im losing more money now that it reached the price i was hoping for than yesterday

>bullshit interest

can they do that? can they change their interest and spread rates after you have commited to buying something?

>>57123608
update: oh nice it did pull back, and even more than this morning, ty for the dip mr. baker hughes rig count

>>57123700
The rugpull

>>57122259
You ever watch the ocean as tsunami waves pull back before violently pushing massive waves forward, smashing and crashing into everything and anything, crushing everything in it's wake? Rates will be cut, bitcoin halving is right around the corner, btc etf's are right around the corner, elections right around the corner. There is literally so much reason the market is like tsunami waves in pullback phase right now. Another thing: 2017 bull run, the mother of them all, happened when donald trump was elected president. People aren't putting all the pieces together. Not yet. Act on it.

anyone got time to genuinely look through CAPT

>Reading the SBF book
>All the stuff he did at Jane Street over a decade ago makes me realize I’m playing checkers while institutions are playing multidimensional chess.
How do you possibly win?

>>57123645
At least that's cash not spent on MARA

>>57123880
>it says i would make something like 6 dollars

>>57123573
i don't expect it will cost him all that much after warranty, but, they probably don't even have parts for it. the owner will have to wait months.

>>57123618
nah. you're right. but if the stock price can go up on thin air, it will go down on thin air.
there's no way around that.

>>57123381
The market is just waking up to nintendo being criminally under valued. If activision blizzard is worth 70 billion, Nintendo is worth twice that. Yet its market cap is 50 billion.

>>57123927
>CAPT
They seem a bit debt heavy but it doesn't look crazy to me. If your bullish for commercial real estate construction it seems like a decent idea.

>>57123930
Ride in their wake

BUDDY CHECK /UB COMPUTER

>>57123975
im all in for the blade runner city reconstruction plan
@$3
the debt is probably for the involvement in the saudi mega project and meeting the primary fund for it
thanks

>>57123290
god damn anons when ai can make good videos it’s over for
>porn industry
>instathots
>onlyfans
and more importantly (from a political and cultural perspective)
>hollywood

>>57122527
>SAVE 15.5C eod.
>double your money
Would have tripled it btw.

>>57124003
Nah. 2d porn has been around forever and its probably only 1% of the market. People want real

>>57123956
i only dumped some extra 100 bucks i made fucking around with the SP 500 before christmas. i was just hoping i could make some extra money to cash out in January to compensate losing money on exchanging the USD to my own currency and learn a bit about forex, but now i'm completely clueless and unsure if i should just sell this shit before i lose my 100$

The female brokers left the office early and mashed the sell button with their heels. It's over....

>>57124003
>>porn industry
>>instathots
>>onlyfans
You can already get nudes and actual sex for free.
Men will only get more retarded.

im really disappointed with the lack of free VR porn out there. We are too early bros

>>57124043
>Complaining about arbitrage
Why aren't you buying a plane ticket to Thailand and solving the problem?

>>57124043
Dumbasses at Apple probably implemented some gay, woke anti-porn policy for the ski goggles, not realizing that's how literally all new technology gets adopted.

VHS vs Betamax, high speed internet... Hell, Alexander Graham Bell's second call was probably phone sex with his wife.

>>57124018
I’m talking about when it’s basically indistinguishable from live-action, which seems like it’s right around the corner.

>>57124032
Sex is rarely ever free anon, if you have a girl and you take her out or if you have to drive to her place to get laid you always end up spending some money. Sometimes its just best to hire a hooker rather than going through all the chase just to lose interest in her after you came.

>>57124064
>Alexander Graham Bell's second call was probably phone sex with his wife.
idk a lot of telecommunication stuff got invented by extremely religious borderline autistic WASPs.

>>57124099
idk. Buying flowers and coffee for a girl before you fuck her seems much more enjoyable than sending her money on Venmo.

You know what else isn't free?
Freedom.

>>57124075
I don't think it's right around the corner and I doubt it will ever be indistinguishable from live action

Microsoft already recovered to 0%

Sorry bobos, your crash ain't happening. The big boys said so

>>57124132
We need smell-o-vision.

>>57124146
Thanks but no thanks

>>57124107
Yeah, if only it was that easy, some girls will just think that you are some pushover who will buy her everything to get laid. Besides, I´d rather only shower with gifts girls i´ve been with for a while, because i never seem to find one i´d like to spend my life with, and if that´s the case, why would i buy shit for a women im going to ghost anyway?

>>57123578
yeah but those cars are largely plastic exterior below the hood line, for the express purpose of easily replacing the part. what's more, it practically detonates in an accident, giving the energy somewhere to dissipate, which makes the car safer overall. the cybertruck is a flying lead "forward" -- after a 180-degree turn to face the wrong direction. tesla heavily compensates for that fact in order to pass the safety regulations of the US and other countries. in the end, the owners will pay through the nose. if they don't lose their money to tesla, they'll lose it to insurers. it's just a matter of time.

>>57124165
IME once you get to the flowers stage it's like 1:10 that ghost so I don't really mind. It's fun seeing them get excited about it.
Coffee is nothing.

>>57124107
Buying a girl flowers is so beta lol I think I have more respect for retards paying onlyfans whores at least there is some honesty there

>>57124195
There's a difference between being classy and being beta.

>>57123734
with spreads, when it goes parabolic, you just sell. you don't need to squeeze the last dollar out of the trade. options trading has zero space for value-oriented, buy-and-hold-forever logic. as you now see, taxes are irrelevant.
you're skimming free money out of the market's mechanisms -- as you've just learned, why the fuck should you care about being taxed on it, even at the highest rate? it's only 35% or whatever.
you get 65% of something for nothing.
situation's different with covered trades. in that case you should want to be assigned. for puts that means it matters where the underlying is eventually headed, and what the taxes will be if you unwind it.

We are so back MARAuders. Now we are at $24 and climbing

My SAVE calls are mooning

>>57123930
you do what they can't do: deep value research that AI will never be capable of, buy the highest quality companies that have unassailable moats and lasting earnings power, and hold it for years, adding when there are panics.
nobody is ordering you to show a booked profit at the end of every week, like they have to do. you have all the power in your hands. TA is what they use to try to understand you, not the other way around, but you are unfathomable, and unmoved.

>>57124187
Well, it´s also fun when you fuck and hooker just right and she asks you to stay a while longer with you to drink some wine or tea and smoke joint with her, and then you get a text message next week and she´s asking you to come meet her for free


btw, they give surprisingly good advice on women

>>57124248
Dont give me hope dot jpg

>>57124309
Taking advice from a woman on anything is a fucking terrible idea.

>>57123124
That’s part of the reason why at the earliest you receive your 1099 in February and never January.

>>57124278
That's weird. SAVE is just crabbing.

>>57124320
well, what she told me was to smile more, dont use rude language and to shittest some girl i was chasing after to see if she was just wasting my time (she was)

>>57124362
Adjust your chart for volume and price action. I'm up over 60% and it popped to 120% a little bit ago, it just keeps going up. The options swing a lot.

>>57124195
>>57124043
Lmao

I was really hoping we'd break the S&P500 ATH this year, I feel like it's quite a negative signal that we pulled back on the final trading day of the year.

Finally got out of COIN at $184. Holding $50k waiting for the drop to $100

>>57122456
>pump
>q1 2024
are you even hearing yourself rn?

>>57124401
Yes, I'm betting on it. You'll probably want to be out before March though. The summer/fall will probably be rough.

>>57124413
The fact that I am hearing this narrative more and more makes me think we're either giga dumping or giga pumping next year.

>>57123526
It's a near guarantee that everything will pump in the final ten minutes to close at an all time high. Except bonds, apparently bonds dumping is bullish for stocks as we're seeing today

>>57124373
You're probably in weekly options with very low open interest. The buy/sell price spread is so large that one person buying can double the "price".

>>57124447
I was saying it middle of this year but it bothers me that everyone else has started catching on.

>>57124452
They expire today, quarterly options. I expect a lot of movement today, already a lot of volume compared to the last two days.

>>57124460
>Fed minutes will dump (for no reason)
>Rate hold in March will dump (also no reason)
>Announcement of first cut will dump (even more no reason)
>First rate cut GIGA PUMP
This is the new narrative I just made up.

Baking
>>57124434
>>57124434
>>57124434
Baked

>>57124373
I simply don't believe you.
Most strikes are red on the day, and I'm approaching a 50% profit on the Jan 5th $17s I sold last Friday.

The stock has traded within a 15 cent range, and even on the 0dte calls there's an intraday premium that tends to settle out as the afternoon approaches. Perhaps you think it's spiking because you don't know how to interpret a wide bid/ask spread, and your brokerage is spitting out garbage pricing.
$15.5 strike for example would've at best fluctuated 20 cents higher, a 25% gain. But most likely it never got significant fills below around $1.

>>57124485
I'm beginning to expect cuts before March.

>>57124492
I posted the 15.5C this morning when it was $0.50
It's $1.78 now.

>>57123132
I don't have much capital to loose bro. I'll rebuy at a lower price same as MSTR

>>57122897
>MIMO
Anon stop shilling absolute bullshit

>>57123290
It's over for now. Buy back later

>>57124544
It's literally not possible. SAVE shares never traded below $16.30 today.
An arb would instantly buy $15.5 for anything below 80 cents and exercise for immediate profit.

Please stop larping.

>>57122897
sure i guess fuck it

>>57124107
Get a load of this beta cuck. Alpha Chads always get massive discount on the girls you are interested in while you are stuck doing all this ick shit like buying them flowers and coffee.

>>57124592
I don't *have* to buy them flowers. I've skipped it before when I didn't care enough to.

>>57123757
January we ride the rocket again. Buy on the 12th

>>57123239
I fucking hate trump the migakike

>>57124388
well break it next year and then dump down again

>>57124657
What happens on the 12th?

I'm only -0.2% today. I guess the pink wojak was unwarranted.

>>57124611
Then don't, all you are doing is giving them the ick on how desperate you are.

>>57123124
audits look at 5 years

>>57124657
Wait wtf? I just bought a dozen calls for next week.

>>57124556
It's not BS
you'll see
you'll all see