/biz/ - Business & Finance

>stocks close
>bobos crawl out of their bunkers to seethe and act schizo
Literally every stock shilled here in the past month is green. Go eat a dick bobos.

What's Tony's actual forecast right now?

-11.49%

uranium

>>57031811
>it rained today and it rained yesterday
>that means it'll rain forever
LMFAO @ mumu logic

>>57031784
yay i made 364 bucks today.... better than up and down 2k

>>57031822
Spot? Fucking great.

All the stocks though? Absolute bullshit. Fuck you, Sprott, and your retarded ETF spazzing.

>>57031836
>I've lost a fuckton of money this month being a bobo but that's ok because maybe I won't lose money when the market goes down .02%
Schizo

>>57031821
You want to talk about it? Did you allocate too much to one position? Hold through your stop loss?

>>57031856
the market is about to crash, im warning you guys because some of you guys are cool.

>>57031836
>clearly euphoric
Calm down anon!

Overall my portfolio went up 0.43% today
But my options went up 23%
A good day

>>57031808
+2.12%

Sold all my SAVE. That was spooky price action at the close. I’m out

imagine all the cash bros that tried and failed to time the market

>>57031877
But anon, options *are* part of your portfolio!

>>57031808
(+1.49%)

Bears need their own Bed Bath and Beyond style general where they can post to each other about "the big one" and "euphoria".

>>57031889
Yes, I know. The whole portfolio went up 0.43%
But just the options part went up 23%

>>57031877
0.33% up today. I hate disney stock.

>>57031887
hahahaha

>>57031808
I think like +1%. Hard to tell because of a huge account transfer.

Fuck uranium stocks though >>57031850

ASSHOLES AAAAAAAH

IT HIT 568 and the SPREAD killed me AAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>57031886
>SAVE

>>57031886
Merger tonight confirmed

>try that in a small town
C'mon brother

>>57031892
Boboism is literally just shit from /GME/ without the MOASS lore

>>57031924
SAVE investors peeking into the chambers, looking over the judge's shoulder.

SOXL

>>57031870
Nah, it swings a lot. Calls don't expire until the 29th, and I was up over 30% yesterday. Probably going to sell during the opening tomorrow and reposition around lunch if it keeps trading like this instead of holding my position.

>>57031887
>cash bros that tried and failed to time the market
Honestly, that's kind of me.
I sold some of my positions at what I thought was the top and moved the cash into a money market, with plans to buy back in during the next dip when it went below my sale price
It never dipped again

>>57031931
I want a REIT that specializes in small towns. Trailer parks, dirt fields that'll soon host a Dollar General, that kind of thing.

>>57031886
Watch it moon in the morning, it was dragging it's balls across my trend line just like last week before it popped then. Someone also slurped up a quarter million shares right after the market closed.

+1.4% today. I have just little enough in to maybe eke out a living where I live, but not enough to not get filtered out into the bottom 80-90% as everybody else gets way more wealthy on the same market, cause they had more to begin with. Kill me.

>>57031811
NEP anon.. afterhours... My calls are printing.

Solid play dude

>Bulls eat for free

>Guys the expect NTM SP500 earnings yield is only 4.9% vs a 3.9% 10 year yield with inflation guaranteed, the market is going to crash

I used to think like this. Luckily my pastor paid for me to go to a camp where they fixed my brain. I’m now not a bear

>>57031962
Bulls stay winning. Let’s fill that gap at $45.

>>57031944
That skews massively towards LPs because REITs don’t want to deal with how long they take to sell

I've been on /smg/ long enough to know mumus being this euphoric and dancing this hard is a signal that things won't last much longer.
Mumus on /smg/ will always feel like artificial transplants. I bet most mumus here aren't even in the market, just here to create drama.

>>57031950
Dude it’s not happening. The DOJ isn’t going to be humiliated in another merger case. Retail won’t be allow to make an easy 100% on this.

>>57031986
>1986 digits
Market will get destroyed next year. I’m a bear again. I’ve regressed

>>57032009
I'm in 40/60 stocks/bonds

>>57032009
FUCK OFF
ENJOY THE SANTA RALLY
BITCH

>>57032009
You're not doing a good job of dispelling the Bobos are schizo meme

>>57032009
If you think this is euphoria, wait until you see January.

>>57032009
What puts and hedges are you looking at? Who's going to collapse fastest? "Muh lower rates" shitcos? TLT? Tax loss losers? The Fag 7?

>>57032019
>2019 digits
We have 3 months before a massive crash and another helicopter money round. It’s so over

>>57032035
TQQQ price 51

>>57032009
>WHY IS EVERYONE HAPPY THEY ARE MAKING MONEY
>WHY ARENT THEY MISERABLE LIKE ME

>+2,69%

good. my big position keeps climbing slowly while im reading about new methods to gamble.

feels ok man.

>S&P 500 about to hit my week's goal already
time for small bet on ATH this year i guess

Best season in the stock market in the past 15 years

20% gains in 2 months, cant get any better than this, it cannot get ANY better than this. historical season

This feels so reminiscent of 1929.

>>57032015
cope. it's already going back up.

>SPY 480 calls for this friday at 0.25
>was looking on sunday and they were 0.15
damn, big gains for the believers

>>57032080
>Bears think they know what 1929 was like, almost 100 years ago
Baggie plz

I bought a fedex put at close because I hate them and they dropped 7%. I'm a magician.

>>57032098
I was there, I remember jumping out of the building. I'm not going to make that mistake again.

>>57032064
so what you're saying is it's only going to get worse?

>>57032064
>it cannot get ANY better than this
The year's not over anon. It's going to get a lot better. S&P 5000 by year end is guaranteed

>>57032139
I’m 100% of the open interest on Dec 31 5250 emini calls

>>57032064
Hooray for the overvalued AF market!

fuck tdamerimutt trade

BABA is making me so sleepy when do the fireworks start?

>>57031811
im rooting for you really hard NEP poster. i like that pick

>>57032163
Seems like we'll be sleeping for quite some time if this shit doesn't pop in 2024...

daily results from bloomberg

>>57031784
HOw'd everyone's day go?

>he is shorting nvda
shame on you anons

>>57032191

>>57032164
Thanks anon. Wagmi

Hey I got a leak that Amazon will be releasing Warhammer Fantasy shows (in addition to the Warhammer 40k show).
I think Games Workshop is about to blow the fuck up next year.
I'm not selling any NEP for it but there you go. The news already blasted the stock up today.

This means that the contract with Amazon is going to be much larger then we thought.

They're cutting rates because they know something broke.

buy tupperware. TUP

>>57032266
Best part is amazon can't do anything worse to the franchise that GW hasn't been doing.

>>57032027
>Who's going to collapse fastest?
NVDA and TSLA.
>>57032026
Oh I know, I fully expect it to keep rallying from here. I'm just saying the music is about to stop.

>call volume for spy january 19th according to IBKR TWS
>490 highest
>480 second
>500 third
>485 fourth
tfw about to get got by some giga jew and buy some worthless shit but fuck it, why not give 500 a shot and get some cheapies

>>57032321
Yeah
YOU

>>57032321
EU inflation currently is lower (y/y effect helps though) and they don't talk about cutting. And EU has several countries with worse credit ratings.

>>57032098
>we don't have books pre-2017

>>57031811
ok I have to ask because I can’t figure it out.
what’s the difference between NEP and NEE?

>>57032353
The EU and ECB is run by skincrawlers who hate Europe.

>>57032335
just you wait, they'll find a way pretty easily. Can't wait for trans guard regiments and space marines questioning the sanctity of the emperor

>>57032338
>I'm just saying the music is about to stop.
Problem is everyone knows what happens after the music stops. So they immediately start buying in anticipation of the next song.

Can someone explain the difference between:

VOO
VTI
FZROX

And others like them that I am missing and should have long term

>>57032377
That would be the dumbest move, warhammer autists like me spend 10s of thousands on minis, paint, video games, and books every year. I've got nothing but disposable income since I'm not trying to keep up with the Jones next door. I don't care about the nicest car or having a perfect yard on the block I care about warhammer and I'm willing to miss a meal to pay for that shit.

>>57032396
>FZROX
Great game

>>57032009
>mumus being euphoric

do bears realize the stock market generally trends upwards, and that after 2 years of high volatility, inflation, rate pressures, things are finally becoming boring and stable? mumus are only "euphoric" if you see the world through Boomer goggles. im happy the money I put to work in 2022 is finally working. you're still expecting the great depression so of course you think we're euphoric

>>57032401
Look Warhammer is for everybody. That includes gender fluid and transgender people.

>>57032366
I'm not able to type it all out so I just had a chatbot do it:
>NextEra Energy (NEE) and NextEra Energy Partners (NEP) are two separate companies that operate in the energy sector. NEE is a utility company that generates and distributes electricity to customers in the United States and Canada. NEP is a limited partnership that owns and operates renewable energy projects, such as wind and solar farms, and sells the energy produced to NEE and other third parties

>>57031887
I tell myself that I'm not one of them, even though that final shakeout before this rally, well, shook me out. Of course I wasn't trying to catch a falling knife, I was just selling calls on SPXL at the furthest possible end of a strike that still made some money... and then the market defied even those expectations. And kept going.

Now I just buy SPY on margin and sell ATM weekly calls on that.

>>57032434
ok, thanks. and what’s the bull case for NEP?

>>57032425
I'm expecting a crash, possibly a depression because the yield curve has been inverted for longer than ever recorded. Typically, the length of inversion correlates directly with how long the recession lasts.
I usually put this to mumus and don't get a credible response, why are things going to be different now?

>>57032396
VOO and VTI are both vanguard products, you can just check their pages anon
they both try to match indexes
https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/etfs/profile/voo
https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/etfs/profile/vti

FZROX might be something that fidelity has more input on, they hold the same top companies as VTI and should be performaning similary but the top holdings of the two funds do have very slight differences % wise of the fund's total portfolio - https://fundresearch.fidelity.com/mutual-funds/summary/31635T708

We're like 1.1% away from ATH on S&P. I thought you guys would like to know.

>>57032495
I am aware

>>57032495
according to my memelines nasdaq is the one near resistance. snp has lot of room

>>57032503

Was on a zoom call with an Indian guy we made stay up to 1 AM for. I asked him about the Indian stock market. He said NIFTY is up a huge amount because India is the next China — in the sense that it's a bull trap. He thinks the stock market bubble in India is bursting soon.

>>57032475
Ill take your opinion seriously if you can explain why the yield curve inverting matters.
Also, the goal of QE is to avoid all recessions. Theres only ever going to be one more recession/depression in the future and it is NOT in two more weeks.

>>57032495
That double top is getting ridiculous now

>>57032522
>explain why the yield curve inverting matters
Go back through history to every other instance of it happening.

>>57032469
>and what’s the bull case for NEP

Lower cost of capital (lower interest rates)

NEP shit the bed when rumors of a dividend cut took off.

>>57032522
>Ill
lmao
>take me seriously
>don't worry that I can't type correctly

Is something happening with China tomorrow?

>>57032495
*nominal ATH

>>57032469
>Lower rates for utility companies are extremely important.
>stock dropped primarily from dividend investors overreacting to the dividend growth rate slowing (not being cut, just the growth rate slowing)
>The market shifting to the idea that "renewables are bad now" even though the company is shitting out revenue
>boomers panic selling their dividend stock because the headlines "dividend growth slowing" confused them for dividend cuts

Market has completely shit the bed here and a lot of it has to do with the kind of investors that typically seek out stocks like NEP being retarded. This stock is beyond undervalued and most of the bear cases were regarding interest rates staying high until 2027. Basically, combination of shizo boomer investors overreacting and assuming renewables will never make money and we will have a great depression with high rates.
I am EXTREMELY simplifying it for you. There's a lot of refinancing shenanigans going on as well.

>>57032522
>Theres only ever going to be one more recession/depression in the future and it is NOT in two more weeks.
>Shortly before the crash, economist Irving Fisher famously proclaimed "Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau."
>This time it's different

>>57032548
Oh shit.

I've been playing paper stock, and fuck, makes me mad I didn't go through with any.

>>57032530
>>57032549
thanks anons. I will take a look at this one.

>>57032522
by only one more, youre talking about the second coming of christ right?

>>57032475
yield curve inversions don't always lead to market crashes. recessions most of the time do not mean crashes..

>why are things going to be different now

for the last 100 years, stock market returns were positive, averaging 10% annually. afterwards markets, long drawdowns and/or sideways markets, markets consistently rally. unemployment is low, gdp is positive, rates have gone up yes, but they've gone to a place the economy can handle(as the economy is less rate sensitive, in addition 5% is still not excruciatingly high). the inflation rate has also gone down. why do bears fixate on one metric, ignore everything else, and moreover think the most outsized move is the most possible?

here's a finance paper about yield curve inversions and stock market returns. the conclusion is you can market time.an inversion
https://www.evidenceinvestor.com/evidence/inverted-yield-curves-and-expected-stock-returns/

>>57032533
If I had no clue what I was taking about, I too would flip out about a missed apostrophe when I was called out.
>>57032529
Every square isn't a rectangle

>>57032537
Yes.

>A 'Santa rally' is in full swing across global stocks, with the Bank of Japan's dovish tilt on Tuesday adding fuel to a fire already burning nicely after the Federal Reserve indicated last week that U.S. interest rates could be cut early next year.

>Even Chinese stocks got in on the act, snapping a four-day losing streak, and Beijing is where investor attention in Asia turns on Wednesday as the People's Bank of China prepares to deliver its latest policy decision.

If anything, however, the PBOC will spoil the party. It is widely expected to leave its one- and five-year loan prime rates unchanged at 3.45% and 4.20%, respectively, according to all 28 economists surveyed in a Reuters poll.

>Beijing is under increasing pressure to significantly ease monetary or fiscal policy - or both - to heal the sickly property sector, kick-start growth and pull the economy out of deflation.

>But that probably won't come until some time next year, and although investors are fully anticipating no action on Wednesday, it will be another reminder of China's policy predicament, economic travails and market vulnerabilities.

1/?

>>57032583
>Every square isn't a rectangle
Quadrilateral bros... our response????

>>57032431
That crowd already have a problem with Warhammer.
https://medium.com/@RealDorianDawes/lets-talk-about-warhammer-40k-830b27686a6e

If you follow slaanesh you get the bolter.

>>57032585
>Japanese markets, on the other hand, got a shot in the arm after the BOJ doused speculation that its landmark move away from negative interest rates is imminent.

>The benchmark Nikkei 225 index jumped 1.4% and is now within 2% of November's 33-year high; the yield on 10-year Japanese Government Bonds fell more than six basis points, one of its steepest daily declines this year; and the yen fell for a third day against the dollar, this time by 0.75%.

>The yen's losses against the euro were particularly steep, while the risk-sensitive Australian and New Zealand dollars were among the biggest gainers against the U.S. dollar on Tuesday, both sitting around their highest in nearly five months.

>The BOJ's relatively dovish tilt boosted the positive risk appetite already coursing through global markets. Despite some push back from Fed officials, investors are still betting on as much as 150 basis points of rate cuts next year.

>After the Dow Jones Industrials index ventured into uncharted territory last week, the tech-heavy Nasdaq followed suit on Tuesday, rising to a new peak just shy of 15,000 points, while the S&P 500 got within 1% of a new record high also.

>The U.S. 'FAANG' index of mega tech stocks rose for a ninth straight day on Tuesday and, remarkably, has almost doubled in value this year. Perhaps this will give the Hang Seng tech index a much-needed boost on Wednesday.

>But while the MSCI World index on Tuesday hit its highest since April last year too, the MSCI Asia index continued to underperform.

>>57032585
Man I really hope NEP hits $45 in a few months so I can slide into BABA before China rates are cut.

>>57032591
He's obviously an idiot, I like our position.

I have been checking some data, and i noticed the swiss gdp tends to grow whenever there is a global crisis, is there any reason for this?

>>57032568
>yield curve inversions don't always lead to market crashes. recessions most of the time do not mean crashes..
>
>why are things going to be different now
>
>for the last 100 years, stock market returns were positive, averaging 10% annually. afterwards markets, long drawdowns and/or sideways markets, markets consistently rally. unemployment is low, gdp is positive, rates have gone up yes, but they've gone to a place the economy can handle(as the economy is less rate sensitive, in addition 5% is still not excruciatingly high). the inflation rate has also gone down. why do bears fixate on one metric, ignore everything else, and moreover think the most outsized move is the most possible?
>
>here's a finance paper about yield curve inversions and stock market returns. the conclusion is you can market time.an inversion
>https://www.evidenceinvestor.com/evidence/inverted-yield-curves-and-expected-stock-returns/
Anon, not raining on your parade, I've heard all this before. And the yield curve *is* re-steepening now.
I don't fixate on one metric at all. In this case I brought up the yield curve, is all.
Whatever macro takes I bring up get handwaved by the mumoids anyway. Everyone is in their little clique thinking they know it all and unable to question their own thought process, like true little Dunning Kruger niglets.
>>57032583
Sorry, don't feel like typing it all out, about to sleep. If you want to make a bad faith assumption about me and believe I don't know anything, you go ahead.

>>57032583
>every square isn't a rectangle
anon I....

>>57032591
[D^:]

>>57031784
>try this trader app
>you get 10 bucks for free if you do your first transactions
>neotech? Cool name let‘s put 20 bucks as a joke in there
>+170%
Wish I would have put more money there

>>57032608
>I like our position
Yes, rather... square.

>>57032583
>Every square isn't a rectangle

>>57032591

Roast my portfolio

>>57032611

>smg bears can't even do geometry

I've never held an inverse ETF, and wondering if I can hold something like SQQQ directly for periods of days and months?

I know they use a bunch of new and expiring futures contracts to achieve the inverse effect, so wondering if these things are safe to hold for a longer time period. The prospectus warns that it's only for intra-day trading.

>>57032622
>square
>his face when 613x683
>square

>>57032656
Zoom out on the chart and it will speak for itself.

>>57032656
>can I hold
Yes.
>safe to hold
Depends on your definition of safety. How sure are you that the market is going to dump while you're holding?

>>57032656
Zoom out

calling it now, 12 weeks until SPY hits 500

Anyone know how Spitznagel does it? Does he just buy options when they're cheap? Like right now with Vix being so low going long vol should be omegacheap right.

>>57032659
Gotta have a portrait aspect ratio for all the niggers on their phones.

>>57032594
i believe in our jap bros, gonna buy some calls on their big boy index

>>57032656
the market better go in your direction quickly or you'll get burned and be left with some heavy bags

Just buy SPY and NVDA calls everyday
Nothing can knock this market down.
Nothing.

>>57032720
if digits, market is golden until 2025

>>57032671
Yeah, I was looking at this and it seems fine.
Just wondering if I missed something.
Don't want to blow up the IRA with a bad trade.

>>57032549
how high do you think it will go NEP anon?

>>57032732
>32

It's funny and also telling how the mumoids jump you if you bring up the yield curve and act as if there is no other bobo case to be made. Just wilfully stupid mumoids putting their fingers in their ears and singing lalala, that's what they are.

>>57032709
>the market better go in your direction quickly or you'll get burned and be left with some heavy bags

Why?
It's not an option, it doesn't expire.
I want to short the QQQ until QE probably in Q2-Q3 2024.

friends, is it over? This is a top signal if I've ever seen one...
>>57032522

>>57031784
WHAT WILL BE THE TOP OF INTC

>>57032742
There is a massive gap around ~45. At the very least that has to fill. Obviously I might sell sooner or later but I always post about it here and its not a pump and dump or anything.

>>57032641
Poor man's Dow Jones Index

>>57031886
I just have 60 bucks in it. Will I make it?

Sorry Bobos
But it's over

>>57032736
nope, you are seeing what you are supposed to see. the rest is up to your risk tolerance.

>>57032772
Is gap filling just a thing that tends to happen?
Also, how much did you make on PODD?

>>57032327
> 95% decline in stock price in 2 years
what the hell happened to that poor thing holy fuck

>>57032327
Man, I could have entered tup when you shilled it at pennies

>>57032750
its not an option as SQQQ will not disappear anytime soon but every day QQQ goes up SQQQ goes 3x as much down
if QQQ goes up for the next 1 month SQQQ will be bleeding you 3x what QQQ does every day, are you ok with that ? QQQ will have to keep going down for a quite a bit in order for SQQQ to recover
i think timing these leveraged niggers is as important as options so be careful

>>57032808
My portfolio increased almost 40% in less then 2 months off PODD since I went all in.
Now PODD was a guaranteed thing and NEP is still risky, but if it makes you feel better I am all in NEP with a cost basis of $29.9

I just got back from WMT. I still think it's a slam dunk short whenever Santa rally ends. All the employees were obese black women or transexual zoomers. Lots of broken merchandise. Lots of people stealing from self checkout. Always a long line of people trying to return stuff.

Fuck WMT

>NANC

>>57032852
JIZZ LANE SPOTTED

>>57032748
They're stupid; it's literally just a bunch of corrupt insider-trading glowfaggots capitalizing on their get-revenge-on-reddit campaign that all the gestapo pieces of shit have been using to justify their complete disregard for all morals and ethics.

Don't forget that it is morally justifiable to fucking steal their shit if you see a way to do it.

>>57032850
WMT stocks got me through college. Obviously I went to college in 2001 though.

>>57032869
They're *not stupid, I mean

>>57032869
>>57032748
Go make a bobo general where you can schizo at eachother forever.

>>57032880
Go make your own website for fucktarded glowfaggots to commit crimes together.
Oh wait, then you wouldn't have any marks.

>>57032835
Thanks anon. Might buy in soon.

>>57032869
Kek. I agree with you in large part, but you're more schizo than me for sure.
They're definitely from r.ddit though. Clue is in how insufferable they are.

>>57032861
Talking to Lynn Forester de Rothschild no less.

Another day. Another day of doing "nothing". Two more days and the bank gets shafted out of dumping interest fees on me. Right before the Christmas holiday.

>>57032818
People who actually cook meals and need to save leftovers are a dying breed

>>57032871
2001 was happier times. I wish I could go back and fuck more emo cunny. Now all the girls listen to nigger music and weigh 300 pounds and shoplift from Walmart to buy fentanyl. It's so fucking over.

>>57032880
GTFO *my* site you r.ddit cuntstick

>>57032895
Is that who they named the Subaru Forrester after?

>>57032869
>gestapo is out to get me anon is still alive

Television rules the nation around the world. I am the brainwasher. You need it, I need it too, you need it, it's good for you.

>>57032902
We cook and save leftovers. Hell my wife's cooking now and I had leftovers for lunch today.

Hey I have an idea: Let's just do everything we possibly can to become a third world shithole where no one has any rights and the government is just openly full of corrupt, evil snarkballs who convinced the gestapo caste that "fuck you, peasant" is a sophisticated approach to social organization.

>>57032908
>>57032888
Go to /x/

>>57032921
I don't think zoomers even know what TV is.

>>57032902
I ain't dead yet.

>>57032926
I don't do a single fucking thing that pigs tell me unless it's under immediate duress or you're about to fucking pay me.

>>57032936
Post positions schizo. You won't. You'll continue to just shitup this general.

>>57032941
You fucktards really ask anons to post positions without posting your own first. Pathetic.

>>57032941
You will eat the fucking shit and you will like it or else I am reporting you to the gestapo for wrongthink.

>>57032933
No more, no more, no more, no more, no more, no more, no more. Harder, better, faster, stronger, it's the prime time of your life. I'm human after all.

>>57032941
The only thing shitting up this general is the gang of pigs who made it their job to obscure all discussion of anything real by bullying just trying to use the internet.
FYI, everyone can tell when you're all in damage control mode -- i.e. when the clownworld shit is impossible to ignore -- because all you do is spam the the thread with "meds," and "schizo."

Suck my actual dick, you irl evil piece of shit dumbass. Additionally, fuck you, pig. This isn't reddit where pretend peer pressure from some 110 IQ copsplainer is going to make me do a single fucking thing other than make me wish you had to do something other than insider trade so maybe another criminal from one of your rival gangs would shoot you.

>WTB $30 item from CHINA.
>Some sandniggers decided to shoot at vessels.
>Shipping a $30 item now costs $30.
Just an average day of a fucking Yurofag...

>>57032638
a*a + a*a = x*x
2y = x
a*a + a*a = 2y*2y
a = y = 2

>>57032952
>>57032954
>>57032973
Just buy NEP

Joe Biden is an illegitimate president and we live in a totalitarian shithole that larps as a democracy btw.

>>57032973
Based desu senpai onions KEK

>>57032973
>all you do is spam meds and schizo
anon have you noticed how posting those 2 things spikes up every time you mention the gestapo being out to get you

>>57032965

>Bulls eat for free

>put buy order for shit and piss ishares
>price keeps rising
>put order for whatever price
>get stiffed hard
every time non stop broken record on repeat

>>57033009
These really are horrific.

>>57032475
>I'm expecting a crash, possibly a depression because the yield curve has been inverted for longer than ever recorded. Typically, the length of inversion correlates directly with how long the recession lasts.
okay but a "crash" is not a prerequisite -- you might simply get a protracted, deep bear market.
they're not the same thing, although to me you clearly meant "one or the other," in reality most people only say crash when they mean all major indicies are going to puke double-digit percent, possibly for 2-3 days straight, and the likelihood of halts is very high.
second, no matter how long a recession is, the market can recover at the end of it, again for months and months at a time. a huge big dick bull market can begin well before the recession actually ends.

>>57032991
Yeah, but it's the gay kind of totalitarianism.

>hurrr time to get on 4chan and defend the u.s. treasury from disinfo
>that's my contribution to the world
>making sure the internet is good boys

Everyone hates you retarded pieces shit for a reason. Not only are you cringe, boring, and total fucking faggots in every possible way, but your solution to having nothing to offer anyone intellectually in any aspect of life is to just poke your gestapofag pig dicks in everyone's business and try to exercise ~community leadership~ over the minutia of how people socialize. Just honestly, please fucking die. *Everyone* hates you, and there *is* a reason.

Federal agencies control elected politicians through blackmail. For those of you paying attention, that's what's known as a "junta", or Spanish for "rule by committee".

Exactly:
Third world shithole run by third rate fucktards.

>>57033019
>there won't be a crash
ok.

>>57031811
Where's the retard that swore Nvidia would never touch 500?
I want to laugh at his faggot face.

how about that stock market though, is it never going to take a breather

>>57032370
this

>>57033054
We're not allowed to talk about that here, anon. Important experts have decided it's not allowed.

>>57033054
We will see if SPY bounces of ATH or not.

>>57033054
Crack up boom. Welcome to the new Weimar Republic era.

Biden is gonna steal the election again so we're gonna live through another four years of inflation and economic recession

>>57032750
It doesn't expire but it does decay badly when not going your way
If you bought the top of QQQ in 2021 you would have made your money back by now
If you bought the top of TQQQ you are still a long way from recovering

>>57033061
I swear to God I have high ranking friends in the Gestapo anon. You better stop spreading disinformation. Biden is the best president in history and is going to have 4 more years whether anyone votes for him or not

>>57033065
You faggots are so insufferable. You’re starting to sound like GME and BBBQ posters.

>>57032549
> 11.35% dividend yield
bros, I'm in love ......
I love /biz/ would never have found these stocks otherwise

Is KO going out of business?

My 9-9 count signal and awesome olliscator saying we are going to crash.

Opening a short on SAVE.

>>57033054
It's here. It's really here.

>>57033096
at least your risk is defined.

>>57033096
You post this every thread. SAVE has doubled in the past month. Lets see those losses.

>>57033101
It’s low risk. Merger will not go through.

which company has the least blacks/women/trannies?

>>57033085
Every quarter? Or every month?

>>57033125
NVDA is the least diverse company in its class according to Bloomberg. Someone get the image.

>>57033125
Some anon was shilling Ruger recently. I'm pretty sure that's a good white mans stock anon. As such they are down bigly this year

WHEN is LLAP going to moon SERIOUSLY

>>57033115
It hasn't moved since 3 weeks ago my fellow melanin enriched fella.

>>57033125
How about which country?

>>57033161
I bet I sell and it moons

The yield curve matters because the reversal of it will mean the draining of liquidity from the market. Don't pretend that institutional players don't continue to include significant portions of their portfolio in bonds; what caused bank failures this year?

As far as the S&P and DJI go, 25-40% of their components by market cap have raised in valuation by around ten times in ten years. P/E on average for the indices is already ~25, higher for those with larger cap (~35). Combine this with the AI craze and bull market and we're looking at a scenario with decreasing liquidity, decreasing interest rates, increasing leverage, increasing speculation, in all likelihood outrunning real growth. Smart money knows this and will play it safe, so any small correction could escalate into a bear market like what we saw for most of 2022. Dumb money, the proportion of which is increasing (especially in this bull market), will exit across the next bear market, extending it. I'm not saying it'll be a crash and I'm still in with a chunk of my portfolio on simple stop losses, but there's a case for the reversal of the yield curve strangling the market.

>>57033081
Why does it make you so angry when people talk about how a massive irrational upward move in stocks, or a "crack up boom", is what it looks like when a leftist government causes a currency collapse?

>>57033160
It keeps being dumped on, pretty sure the company wants to keep the price at down for a potential buyer.

>>57032656
>The prospectus warns that it's only for intra-day trading.
>>57032656
>I know they use a bunch of new and expiring futures contracts to achieve the inverse effect
>>57032656
>so wondering if these things are safe to hold for a longer time period

Am I high, or did I just quote the same post three times?

>>57032750
>Why?
>It's not an option, it doesn't expire.

It's cost basis for the day is based on options, as you stated, and they're recalculated after each close, and likely levereaged against during the trading hours based on their option strategy (here, take some of the crumbs). Are you not able to understand how this instrument works, but yet state how it functions... I'm confused.

>>57032609
it's perceived to have a safer more solid financial system so people hide their wealth there when they are scared

>>57033135
11.35% a year. But that's still leagues ahead of an average stock where you are happy if it gives you 6% back

>>57033198
Because they are literally bootlicking gestapofaggot corrupt assholes all insider trading together with copies of WIR in hand while they try to sell us their shitty options.
I am not kidding.

>>57033096
I had one of those too. Still have all my calls.

>>57033054
not until S&P 500 smashes its ATH and overshoots by 1% or more

>>57033233
Trump just got booted off the CO ballot by that state's supreme court.
Let the games begin.

>>57033216
to continue this thought, imagine paying thousands of dollars for shit Amazon stock and getting a big fat ZERO dividend for your efforts
the entire tech sector is so over-inflated

>>57033233
Checked. Only 2% more to go? Smoke em if you got em.

>>57033218
How do I get a copy of world intelligence report... Asking for a friend

>>57033161
It's trading the highest it's been since the trial started. The only timeframe close to this level was a 30 minute stretch on the Monday morning after Alaska/Hawaiian airlines announced their own buyout.

>Shit&Poop 9 green sessions in a row
They can't keep getting away with this

Look at FDX... The real economy is going into the shitter!!! The earnings recessions is cumming!!! HAHAHAHAHHA!

>>57033250
What state? California? Yeah, because Newsom met with the nation's richest to try and oust Biden.

>>57033206
They're not going to sell, though. It never reaches 1$ and here I was hoping to hit 10 bucks a share

>>57033216
Enbridge gives 16% I think.

>>57033257
I never saw a 'copy' of the report, but I did have access to a CIA wiki-type site they hosted on DoD SIPR networks. I was granted access due to a DARPA project I was working on in Afghanistan (basically google street view shit with file sharing in the map GUI, not taking, etc.).
>>57033277
California literally doesn't matter when it comes to the Presidential election. Look at how much their broadcast stations get for campaign advertising vs the states that matter.
Decision was in Colorado, which also released five grey wolves into the wild today.

>>57033219
Not even meming I would sell all the calls for SAVE puts or better yet short. This isn’t the sure thing everyone thinks it is. DOJ has a solid case, they’re not incompetent.

>>57033277
>CO = California
Bruh.

>>57033257
As far as I can tell, spend your life being a bootlicker while paradoxically being willing to cheat your way positions of influence, but I don't actually know because I am not a racketeering, hypocritical scumbag.

>>57033312
>DOJ has a solid case, they’re not incompetent.
Report literally says their case is weak at best. They totally missed in their arguments. Read it for yourself. It's public, and has been posted in this thread.

>>57033313
Who cares. Voting is gay anyway.

MARA bros...
When do we sell???

>>57033331
Now that is true.

>>57033298
You wish. Enbridge is at 7.8% a year on the Toronto Stock Exchange. I have yet to see a stock with a higher dividend yield than NEP

>>57033331
It would be less gay if we could get Tulsi's nudes.

>>57033350
PBR
We aren’t buying NEP for the yield. It’s just a nice bonus.

>>57033350
PBR is 18% right now but Brazilian. There was an American liquid national gas compress company that /smg/ used to play that was also super high but that guy that shilled it blew up his account on options I think.

>>57033325
You realize all it takes is one (1) consumer being harmed by the merger and that’s enough grounds for DOJ to successfully block it. They will raise prices 30% and drop some Spirit routes altogether. That’s enough for the judge to rule in favour of DOJ.

I just ran some rough numbers and if the market keeps following this trajectories, then according Calculator.exe I'm going to be a millionaire in 2036

>BREAKING: Bloomberg reports the US and its allies are considering military strikes against Houthi rebels in Yemen
Pool's about to be closed for everyone real soon

It's literally over tomorrow, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghxzLw2wRis

>>57033392
Wow, what a shocker. You mean all those ships and carriers moving to the Red Sea might launch missiles? Unbelievable.

>>57033392
I thought the current admin was against supporting the Saudi's ambitions in Yemen.

>>57033376
> but Brazilian
well it trades on the NYSE so that's fine by me. don't know why picrel says the dividend frequency is blank - does it just randomly pay out without a regular schedule?

>>57033371
> aren't buying it for the yield
isn't the entire business model of NEP to direct 100% of profits into dividends? but it's true it still has a lot of room to recover from its ATH...

>>57033391
For me it will be in late 2026 (growing from $11,400 right now lmao)

>>57033392
LFG

>>57033410
>does it just randomly pay out without a regular schedule?
Yes, and it's one of the big political fuckery points with it. The Brazilian government owns a ton of shares and increasingly forces them to instead invest in shit like green energy.

>>57033406
Yeah but now it's not about KSA, it's about blockading Israel, so they can't stand for that. If the Saudis get involved I'll be glad I didn't sell my Oil.

>>57033416
I'm including me taking money out of my portfolio to pay for stuff

>>57032358
history is fake & gay.
you don't even know any longer what you had for breakfast a week ago.

>>57033410
Yeah I think PBRs payouts are irregular. The mission statement of the company is some really commie sounding logo about giving back to the people and they tanked super low during Brazilian elections because the politicians were talking about nationalizing the company possibly. The guy that won the election is literally a CIA glownigger though so I think it's a safe hold. It's pretty high right now though I bought it/shilled it in the single digits.

VALE is also another solid Brazilian dividend play. Also really high right now with steel recovering. Wait for an entry around 12-13

>>57033410
>>57033376
Don't forget Lula is in right now too.

>>57032520
Doubt is at the start of market rallies, not the end.

>>57033391
>>57033416

Are you being sarcastic or genuine? your answer will determine your fate.

anyone else notice that buybacks always get announced but dilution never does?

>>57033462
Lula is a glownigger and was president before and never fucked with PBR. They wanted to replace Bolsarno and there was a real push to compare him to "omg he is like trump he is basically a Nazi" and "omg he didn't want to mandate 100 COVID vaccines he is hitler"

Glow niggers literally picked Lula (again)

>>57033432
>>57033459
I'm looking for regular predictable income, so this is probably a no

>>57033462
a glownigger like the other guy said, he won't touch it

>>57033391
>millionaire in 2036
with that money you could almost afford a brand new toyota corolla in 2036

>>57033477
Somewhat serious, I've done a good job of maintaining a +0.6%/day average, so in 3 years I can 94x my money, in theory.

>>57032591
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=square
or, in musical terms,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbF1g3k2mtw

>>57033501
>I'm looking for regular predictable income, so this is probably a no
Look for total return - solid, preferably growing companies earning cash. Take whatever dividends they throw off and sell shares regularly to make up the difference.

Do not autistically focus on the checks companies send you.

>>57032641
Didn't someone call you white trash and your comeback was "does this look like a white trash portfolio?"

I just wanted to say yes, yes it does.

>>57033521
Something, something Patrick Batman.

>>57032763
Probably right around 48.00 but I suck at volume profiles so take that for what it's worth.

>>57032818
TUP got fucked by some pension fuckery IIRC

>>57033537
>Do not autistically focus on the checks companies send you.
All a Verizon investor had to do was just that and he would be receiving a healthy pension for the last 30 years, regardless of stock price. In general if a corporation has a high dividend it is likely i) undervalued and ii) extremely profitable and thus safe

>>57033568
This reminded me how much fun it is to peel your skin off when you have a sunburn

>>57032852
Kicking KRUZ's ass. Although I think that's just due to Republicans having an oil & gas tilt vs green energy scamco's.

>>57033579
Isn't it going to 100?

>>57033596
I shilled Verizon here for months. No clue why it went so low. Didn't care. Easy gains didn't.even give a fuck about the divvies I got from fhem

>>57033579
I sold mine at 45.15... should i buy in again? Also they're spinning off their fab line into another IPO

>>57033610
>>57033596
Or he might've done that with F and has been literally eaten alive by inflation. Literally.

>>57033609
Anon, INTC hitting 100 means we've got huge problems. Like 20% inflation or missiles levelling Taiwan.

>>57033335
Soon

>>57033618
>Also they're spinning off their fab line into another IPO
Short them, they're a shit company in the current climate.

>>57033350
Damn, I should get in that when I have money for divvy investment

>>57033087
No, but they'll soon be a victim of a hostile takeover by COKE.

>>57033636
Yeah, I knew I sold at a good time. AMD sold their fab line and went to hell all things considered. Man I should have kept those thousand shares...

>>57033645
FWIW I'm finishing up spinning off the GF fabs that IBM bought. Reliance on Taiwan is at an all time high.

>>57033503
>tfw

>>57033624
thanks for the counterexample, you are a knowledgeable (or experienced) trader

>>57033610
> no clue why it went so low
the same reason most other stocks had lows in September - rapidly rising interest rates on a company that has a lot of debt
Verizon is my biggest holding atm but I just started seriously investing in the aforementioned September. 150 million cellphone subscribers and control of much of the Internet's infrastructure means it would take extreme stupidity for anything to affect its profits

>>57033624
Man, aren't they the next NVDA? What the hell

>SKYT is the only fab in America independent of Taiwan
>Joe Biden held up their wafers when he announced the chips act to show them off
>they never get a penny of the chips act
>it all goes to companies that waste it on more taiwan reliant designs

Fucking kek that anon must be seething. Pic is the chip.

oh also there were some jews trying to sue it with class-action lawsuits about lead or other toxic substance in some of their infrastructure but that blew away for some reason

>>57033655
I had a tiny investment in tsmc and i never bought back and now it's looks to be too late.

>>57033660
>thanks for the counterexample, you are a knowledgeable (or experienced) trader
I'm saying imagine you heard ZIM shilled here and thought "Wow, look at that divvy! And people are always going to need to ship things! What a safe bet!" Or a couple decades ago shorted a zero-dividend internet scamco about to go out of business trading under the ticker AMZN.

There's always more dimensions to consider.

>>57033670
>they never get a penny of the chips act
lmao really? Is it because they don't offer paid child care or whatever the fuck?

>meanwhile in the crypto pits

>>57033674
I thought that was AT&T?

>>57033702
I have no idea. They also have some Jewish insider that helped fund the startup and has been dumping his shares for a year now on EVERY uptick.
Personally I think the company will one day rocket but I wouldn't touch it with a fucking 8 meter poll until that Jew is done dumping, which judging by the rate, might not be done for 6 months to a year.

>>57033660
>it would take extreme stupidity for anything to affect its profits
Look at ATT anon.

Tony Dwyer and Tom Lee are fucking idiots
This market is going down!

>>57033685
ZIM is 1B market cap

VALE is 70B
PBR is 100B
VZ is 158B

If you want steady divvies you should probably avoid random tiny Jewish scam companies like ZIM

Baking

>>57033380
>all it takes is one (1) consumer being harmed by the merger
Wrong. The law states substantial harm. One passenger is not substantial.

>>57033740
He's the only FUD shill on here, coping by not buying EVERY FUCKING DAY.

>>57033726
>VALE
Iron ore is cyclical. If you wanted to gamble on iron/met/steel, you would've been much better off with AMR but they do buybacks instead of divvies.

>PBR
That's gambling on both Brazil and oil.

Frankly, if you rigorously filter on "safe divvies" you just end up with NOBL. Which pays out a spectacular -1% real yield.

>>57033740
>>57033751
Gamble on the Reagan Boomer judge. Either you get a payout or you can write off their entire good-for-nothing generation forever.

>>57033761
You can say it's a "gamble" but vale and PBR are at a p/e of like 3. If they were American companies they would be worth 10-20x more.with the same financials

>>57033772
Already been making money on it anon. Literally just trade it, know anything else with that kind of upside potential?

>>57033624
What can I invest in to double my 2k?

>>57033658
lmao

>>57033751
There are multiple anons spreading FUD. Perhaps they're jealous because they missed an easy win this past month. They never bought when the trial win odds were being sold at 10%, so now they'd feel retarded to buy at 40%.
Anchoring expectations is a pretty common mistake. They missed the first double, so now they'll miss the next one too.

>>57033085
Your joy will fade at tax time. It's best to buy LP's through a fund so you don't have to deal with this.

>>57033805
That's great. Though I'm not sure how trading it prior to the verdict is any different than JETS or AAL or DAL.

>>57033777
Sure, but ZIM also had a hilariously low P/E. And they aren't American companies. So who's to say a decade from now they don't get nationalized? Or go back to their pre-2020 behavior of paying 1-2% dividends?

Also checked.

>>57033822
GBTC and enjoy $100k bitcoin this time next year when the Fed has cut to 4%?

>>57033832
It's a lot easier to be more risky knowing that potential upside and greed in the market. It will keep riding on TA alone knowing that that price target is out there.

>>57033860
Oh hey, I think we've talked before. What about MARA? I sold at 18 bucks. Should I sell INTEL and buy back into mara?

>>57033832
Any other airline, except HA, would be a bet on the airline industry doing well rather than a bet on a specific Judge's reading of the law. The problem is that the airline industry sucks. Look at longterm performance of every stock - high competition, low margins, capital intense, low growth.

HA spread is much tighter so the max return there is 32%. It's not a bad play either, but given codependence on SAVE result, longer timeframe to close, and larger downside risk, I see no reason to speculate on that one at this moment. While the HA spread could stay tight until closing, there's decent chance at any point it could just blow out on some unforeseen risk. Happens to many arb situations at one point or another. I'd be a buyer at that point.

>>57033831
oh what the hell. This doesn't make much sense financially, corporations are better.
I think it's still worth a buy just to pump and dump though

>>57033900
>the airline industry sucks.
exactly. I'm getting out of Air Canada as soon as the price recovers to the $24-25 range

I'm not baking again today...
but someone needs to

>>57033920
When you find an exception to the trend, you use it. M&A is part of that, and they can be booms for accounts if you play them right.

>>57033910
Maybe so, if you don't mind the extra paperwork. For my part, I'm just going to keep holding FEN, which has worked out pretty well since buying it in 2020.

>>57032954
>slutty teenage latinas
hnnng

>>57034042

>>57033088
Ur thing looks like it gave a sell signal immediately before that big gap up and keep pumping maneuver.

>3 threads up

>>57034061
he didn't link back in time and basically it just isn't my problem

BABA pumping in Chyna, woooooooo

>>57033484
You have to file dilutions so they always get reported. Buybacks don't need fillings so there's an official announcement.

>>57033160
I hope soon because I have.. many many shares.

>>57033618
no they're not you fucking retard
they're spinning off the programmable chip unit, you know, the one that's tanking
What remains of intel will be the fabs, and they're gonna keep building them non stop which means great compounding