/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56984212
It's a good little chunk. I don't think I'll get any of their 1toz bars unless I ever end up buying their 'one of each size' bundle.

Didn’t realize how late into the thread I was so I’ll post again:

I make 3k$ a month after cost of living. How much on PMs and what else should I buy?

>>56985105
Just metals, that is all. It is a gamble, but i think it is a good bet, not a sure one. I have about $3k disposable and i buy about $1500. The rest goes to cigarettes, beer, and wagyu beef.

>>56985134
Yeah, I guess so. Everything else seems like an exponential increase in stress. I’d rather just stack gold and land.

How do i get rid off this dark goo without damaging the coin? Is it even possible?

>>56985169
>exponential increase in stress.
it is. you’ve seem the silver chart. very boring. Nice and boring. Ahh.

>>56985105
I think taking a nice hard look at Exter's pyramid is a good place to start. We already KNOW that the banking system is held together by nothing more than liquidity injections. Now is not the time to be aggressively chasing returns and keeping PMs as 1-2% of your portfolio.I think the fundamentals of silver alone, and in conjunction with the historic Dow:Gold ratio and the G:S ratio, it is safe to say that long term holding of silver can easily be a 10 bagger at some point.
Do with that what you will, but I got my fair share. And the way I see it, $200 spent per paycheck these days is equivalent to potentially locking in $2000 worth of purchasing power. And that gives me the peace of mind to invest in other stupid equities earning 10% while we all wait for Armageddon.

>>56985105
>How much on PMs and what else should I buy?
100%. Literally risk-free and with potential limitless upside. Once your stack is large enough you'll be free to diversify, but for now you want to secure a metallic insurance. Maybe the only tangible thing left with zero counterparty risk, zero risk of cancelling by both private and public authorities, and zero taxable liability. Those 3 points will become increasingly sought after in the era of digitalized vampirism, where looting your equities/properties/goods can be done in the name of anything and everything.

Also... i've a gut feeling something big is about to occur. Something very big. The (((agents))) of planned chaos are ready to pull their next move. Too many bad signs and paid war zealots all over Europe, i think we aren't far off the escalation of the Ukrainian conflict (which is already WW3, lets not fool ourselves).

just ate a 20oz t-bone, 7oz block of cheese, small bundle of asparagus, and half gallon whole milk

>>56985343
Without sounding too radical I have lost my faith in conventional stocks and crypto and even land frustrates me with taxes. Gold and silver are the only things I have faith in any more.

>>56985408
Boutta slam a pizza and breadsticks. Wanna buy silver but I’ve blown my budget for the month and now I get to sit here fat boy style.

>>56985408
currently eating ground beef with taco seasoning by the spoonful because i forgot to get tortillas

>>56985422
>Without sounding too radical I have lost my faith in conventional stocks and crypto
That would be most of us, i will admit having a 401k but as ive said in the past its a 1:1 match and my PMs dwarf it. Its too “advanteged” to pull out, i see it as a lottery ticket, whereas many foreigners would see it in the reverse.
I will admit to having crypto as well but just a small bag as a hedge its nothing too radical, its a “controlled” coin which i see as more profitable in the case we are lead astray. I haven’t shilled a crypto here and never will, to allow myself the moral flexibility to attack those that do.

>>56985408
I had mexican rice and quesadillas which i made for myself around noon.

>>56985544
>Mexican
Its spanish, the mexicans have done nothing they are a dark shadow people.

>>56985422
>I have lost my faith in conventional stocks and crypto and even land frustrates me with taxes.
You are way too based for a zoomie-boomie. Took me way too long to figure out all stocks are scams in the exact same vein as shitcoins, simply with a veneer of regulations (all stacked against you) to give some credibility to it, and land... you aren't ever really the true owner of it. And the ability to artificially & indefinitely ramp up the value of terrains is like a prison where governments can put you in the next brackets to tax you always more even though your wealth didn't move an inch.

Not only that, but so many factors can brutally change the value of real estate, or even acres of forests. An uncle of mine is literally unable to sell his house because they built a 200 meters high wind turbine few hundreds meters away. Technically his house is still worth like 400K, and he is taxed on those 400K, but in reality on the market the value is now zero, because nobody want to fucking live right next to a wind turbine. And nobody asked for his approval to build it of course.

I reached the same conclusion than you : only gold & silver offers me complete control over my assets, as well as complete security from digitalized seizing, complete anonymity, etc... all while being the only real store of value (ie store of worked hours) existing who carry all the properties of money.

So yeah, gold and silver it is. Emphasis on silver for me because it's so absurdly underpriced. And gold for when i manage to save 2k and/or want some extra safe guarantee.

>>56985511
I went to my local EBT store (overpriced), as i also forgot tortillas. I will not eat it by the spoonful.

Arrived in the mail a few hours ago.

>>56985570
>Wind turbines
as an owner along a massive utility easement, history bears out that even in humble circumstances land can also be taken (legally). Silver and gold can be moved with my person, its a superior asset, and for silver it is a highly utilized commodity. As for gold, it is is coveted by those wishing to back a new currency, although they are mislead. but its value comes about because of agreeance, and so its true that gold is also prized. as long as that agreeance remains, not so for silver. I am a shill for silver, and not so for gold. for the aforementioned reasons, although i hold both.

>>56985625
Very nice fren. I hope you didn't overpay for them tho, sometimes the prices are a tad retarded on those.

>>56985649
Oh I overpaid but I don't care. I have another 4 I'm waiting on.

>>56985642
Exact. What i extra-like with silber is what is seen as a problem to many who are too blinded by the potential of gold-backed currencies : central banks don't own any significant quantities of it. Thus, beside their paper game, they don't have any potential leverage on the physical commodity itself, like they do with gold.
One major factor to explain the dump of gold prices post-2010 was central banks dumping huge loads of their gold on the markets, in big batches at a time to have maximum selling pressure on the spot price.
It was vital to central bankers to have seemingly strong currencies right when they entered ZIRP (zero interest rate policy) and massive QE. And for that, the main tool used is always to sabotage the benchmark currencies' performances are calculated against : gold.

Not only silver and gold have around the same tonnage of above ground in investment form, but at least with silver the owners mostly are industrials producing real goods, and common folks who use it as savings like us. And a bit of banksters too, but it's secluded to the LBMA, SGE & Comex. But i love gold too, i simply don't like how it's currently distributed among the population.

>>56985660
>Oh I overpaid
To what extent? Too ashamed to give us the pricetag? It's ok fren, sometimes the impulse is just too strong, i wont judge you, i swear.

>>56985105
Didn't you say you have a hard on for land and metals in the last thread? If so, I'll assume you're squared away on dried food and guns and such so I say, diversify: 500 a month into some super high risk/high yield gambles like memecoins. 500 on L1 cryptos. 1000 a month on PMs and leave the remaining 1000 in physical cash and whatever high yield savings or money market account that lets you access it immediately without fees. This should be an awesome growth strategy for the next 8-12months with minimal exposure to our overvalued stock market. If you pick the memecoins right (pick 1 or 2 a month using coinblow), it might allow you to buy more land cash with your gains, and, $12k in sales tax free, US priced PMs isn't chump change. That's like: flee to south America and live comfortably in nice beachfront condo for a year if you had to.

>>56985774
>500 a month into some super high risk/high yield gambles like memecoins. 500 on L1 cryptos. 1000 a month on PMs and leave the remaining 1000 in physical cash and whatever high yield savings or money market account that lets you access it immediately without fees.

>>56985769
Oh I paid between $35-40 each. Not too insane.

>>56985760
>One major factor to explain the dump of gold prices post-2010 was central banks dumping huge loads of their gold on the markets,
I explained this a few threads ago but called a conspiracy theorist, as many here are want to do.
>currently distributed among the population.
least distributed, and therefore fails in the fair money mandate.
>>56985774
>memecoins
No. Control coins or just call it gambling, its not investment or saving. its gambling.

>>56985824
It's not too bad honestly. With the pics' quality i've issues looking if there is the Warsaw mint mark (tiny arrow) in the right eagle's claw. It should add some extra value to your coin over time, compared to the ones minted in London since Warsaw only managed to mint half the amount.

>>56985180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZmXjt5H_q8

>>56985935
>please don't be muh baking soda + aluminoom
>please don't be muh baking soda + aluminoom
>please don't be muh baking soda + aluminoom
>please don't be muh baking soda + aluminoom

>it's baking soda + aluminoom
It's not tarnish we're talking about here, but probably rust encrusted on the silver, from being in close contact with iron compounds for centuries (could be a nail, or anything i guess..).
Scrapfren advised me to use some drain cleaner to clean up silver RMs i got who have the same issue. But idk if i should try it too with antique silber. A RM is basically worth close to nothing so that's why he advised me drain cleaner i believe, while here it's big monies (and historical, cultural value too), so i'll wait for his expertise before doing something potentially retarded.

>>56986037
Nigger please.

>>56985930
ps : this only apply to your 1932 coins. The coin was only minted in Warsaw in 1933.

>>56985903
Call it whatever you want. It pays for most of my PMs. We're just starting the next crypto bullrun. I don't think the dollar will collapse in the next 8 months at the very least, and you can only buy PMs with fiat or crypto so...if you have a finite amount of cash available for PMs per month, and your goal is to buy more PMs before a crash, it makes sense to try and increase your PM stack as best you can before said crash. It's just my suggestion. I don't care what anyone chooses to do with their fiat, but it's still the predominant medium of exchange for now and the immediate future.

>>56986056
Nigger what?

>>56986065
Oh god… here we go… again.
Not my style. You do you.

>>56986056
>>56986056
One of my rust-tainted RM for reference.

>>56985408
nice

>>56985105
Follow this guide and buy the dips in the spot market.

>>56986105
I know some of the RMs have rust on them. if you think a nothing walking liberty is “history” and a RM is not….
Id pour drano on my RM to remove something like that.

>>56984988
How do I mitigate the risk of inappropriate civil asset forfeiture? Should I always store my stack along with receipts or transaction records, in order to have evidence that it was acquired legally? Is there anything else I can do?

>>56986128
this doesnt apply to Americans and is gay, this infographic is stupid.

too much fag talk and not enough stack posting

>>56986133
https://youtu.be/vShRRBhHLJI?si=OlO_mqpO6Zz1XBrw

>>56986141
You've had over a year and a half to do your own and still haven't done it. Your existence is gay and stupid.

>>56986132
>if you think a nothing walking liberty is “history” and a RM is not…
There must be some confusion on your part fren, it's to clean a 2000+yo silver tetradrachm >>56985180. I wouldn't take any special precautions for a walkingburger.

>>56986141
Also, I've still got the info in a txt file, so you can have it if you want and edit the parts you disagree with. I will be happy to format it into an image for you if you need someone to do that.

>>56986155
Kek

>>56986156
>over a year and half to do my own
Nigger, no one needs this fucking retarded Infograph. I’m tired of seeing it, its trash. not needed. Not going to expand im tired of typing the same shit forever after seeing it. No im not making one to refute it, it sucks. it got removed from the OP for a reason.

>>56986190
I am a bum now. banned to my phone until late February for being retarded. Remind me in march, i guess

>>56986190
The text is almost worthless for US residents in total, but you could just title it: PMs for British Noobs and save all the hate you catch from it.

I get that Brits would likely know, but does the average European know what a sovereigns is actually worth? 99.9% of Americans would think a modern one is something you put into a skeeball machine or just a shitty souvenir.

>>56986256
WTF? How did you do that? buy the “dirtyjew” safe.

>>56986267
Probably has a fucking RFD device in it. call me gay, but would you be surprised?

>>56986260
Seriously just copy this to a txt file, edit it and then upload to catbox.

https://files.catbox.moe/xbefg8.txt

>>56986256
Huh, that's a lot more elegant than what I cooked up.

>>56986280
Stop posting it. and then the problem solves its self Senpai

>>56986273
just make one. are you retarded?

>>56986289
talking past me. re-read.

>>56986287
No, I won't because it's useful information. Get working on your own, upload the txt file and I'll format it into an image. You've been at this for a year and a half, your complaining about its existence not being Murica centric is beyond retarded at this point.

does anybody have a more cursed piece of silver than this thing

>>56986304
This nigga stacks.
>>56986297
Fine dude.

>>56986280
I was simply suggesting that you edit the title is all. I'm not editing your meme for you. You're the one posting it lol.

>>56985180
>How do i get rid off this dark goo without damaging the coin?
>>56985935

What I'd do is soak it in acetone for a little while to dissolve any finger grease or resins first. The black goo honestly just looks like really thick Silver Sulfide, same shit as normal tarnish, so a combination of baking soda/aluminum then using a sharp bamboo skewer to remove loosened crud then more baking soda/aluminum treatments etc. should work.

I detect some soft lumpy-lookin' re-deposited metallic silver deposits on the coin, definitely on the neck and in the middle of the black zone on his head and in the eye socket area too. That can be scraped off very easily with the sharp bamboo, it's soft stuff but often the surface of the coin underneath can be a bit rough and soft too so it takes patience and care to make sure you don't fuck it up and start digging into the surface of the actual coin. I'm certain that coin could be improved significantly but you need to be careful, and ideally use a binocular or digital microscope to see it and the tip of your tool at 10-20x so you don't do anything too dumb for too long

>>56986310
I have a few but you’ve all seen it. Nice OC my grandfathers funeral was crawling with masons, all old retards. Not scary.

>>56986297
We should do a poll one of these days, i'm curious to see the nationality breakdown on /pmg/. Even tho burgerbros certainly are the majority, i think there are also more yuropoors* than on most other threads gathering here.

*romanians don't apply as yuropoor

>>56986310
jesus christ, anon.
>>56986313
lol we all wish

>>56986297
TBF, there are 5x the number of English speakers in the US than the UK so... origins aside, the English speaking internet does kind of revolve around us.

Just edit the title of your meme to avoid confusion.

>>56986323
Hey scrapfren!
>The black goo honestly just looks like really thick Silver Sulfide
Really? My apologies to the anon then, i didn't knew it could be this thick. Also the lack of homogeneous dissemination (only quartered to a fraction of the surface), led me to believe it couldn't be tarnish. Previous partial cleaning maybe?
Did you often came across this kind of tarnishing pattern on old coins?

>>56986332
>*romanians don't apply as yuropoor

I've always thought of Gypsies as defective low-IQ Jews, God's factory-rejects.

>>56986351
I wouldn’t technically have a problem with it then.
Problem solved.
Thusly, Shove the TXT up your butthole Europoor.

>>56986365
And you are correct in that line of thinking.
You have an innate intelligence.
>Budget jews need not apply

>>56986310
Cursed idk, but date-mogging freemasoniggery, certainly. Pic rel is my oldest, in silber.

>>56986151
>lighting sucks
>doesn't know how to rotate photo
Great job steering the convo

>>56986403
>showing off his completer
>being low iq “post stack” fag
One of us!

>>56986151
>Completer
That's not the chad version.

>>56986363
>Previous partial cleaning maybe?
I think I see some faint cleaning lines/scratches around the hair in the 10-12 o'clock area
>Did you often came across this kind of tarnishing pattern on old coins?
Yes I do! Not sure why but often that thick tarnish is concentrated in a few patches instead of evenly spread over a coin.

Regarding the "re-deposited silver" I'm not exactly sure what it is, some people call it 'Horn Silver" but that is AgCl, and i don't think it is metallic and silvery. Perhaps it is a mix of silver chloride and micro-flakes of metallic silver? Whatever the case it is very soft so can be removed easily, often it flakes/chips off of the surface in sizeable chunks which is convenient, but there isn't a very distinct visual or moh's hardness transition between the actual surface of the coin and that silvery crust so you need to be careful, cleaning bronze coins is usually more straightforward in that respect.

>>56986365
Pretty accurate. I always only had disdain for them, but it turned into pure hatred ever since i've few semi-rare date Carol I silver Leu on sale i got from a lot.
I'm already by far the cheapest, yet, every single day i get offers/messages from cheapstake romanoids who offers me ridiculous amounts like .50c or 1€, probably hoping i misclick the "accept" button, who's admitedly awfully close to the "refuse offer" one.

>>56986310

>>56986477
Canadian

I can smell the races of man, with even the 2 of whiffs, tell me im wrong.

>>56986477
>Fine Sunce Troy: Revolver

>>56986438
Learning something every day. Tbf i didn't purchase this coin yet, i wanted to know if it could be improved beforehand, then if so, try to negociate a bit the price -it's set on BIN- and acquire it eventually.
The eagle on the reverse is really crisp, i would love to add this tetra to my tiny collection.

>>56986477
Thank you for the sacrifice. My aputannia just went up in worth.

>>56986454
>I'm already by far the cheapest, yet, every single day i get offers/messages from cheapstake romanoids who offers me ridiculous amounts like .50c or 1€, probably hoping i misclick the "accept" button

>...And gradually I began to hate them.

Kek, since us Burgers are insulated from the bulk of the Gyppo plague I don't have direct experience with them, my wife has chaperoned Uni trips to the UK and France tho and says gangs of swarthy subhuman gypsies hang out around the tourist traps and spend all day trying to steal purses and swindle naive visitors. Really disgusting and openly scummy people, at least kikels are clever enough to try to hide their perfidious behavior.

>>56986541
>at least kikels are clever enough to try to hide their perfidious behavior.
Not anymore, the’yve regressed into romanoid form. Send them to their brothers!

>>56986518
>The eagle on the reverse is really crisp, i would love to add this tetra to my tiny collection.

Yeah the eagle is unusually nice considering the overall moderately circulated condition, cleaned-up it would be an attractive coin.

I've circled for you some of the more obvious "horn silver" or redeposited silver crustiness that could pe picked right off with a sharp fine-pointed hard bamboo or big tree thorn tool (usually needs frequent resharpening with a razor blade but it's necessary for getting into little crevices). The baking soda/aluminum treatment helps get rid of some of the tarnish that acts like a hard glue strengthening and holding crud on the surface, I like to do a succession of mechanical cleaning with sharp tools, then a baking soda/Al dip, then tools again to get the freshly loosened stuff off, then dip again, etc.

>>56986518
>>56986627
>I've circled for you some of the more obvious "horn silver" or redeposited silver crustiness

whoops, here's the pic

>>56986636
clean it now.

>>56986477
I kneel

>>56986541
Ah, IRL gyppos truly are something else. To tell you how much people hate them, it's the only "minority" group with zero support from leftoid organizations.
It's not rare to see them being beaten down by natives/arabs/cops/anybody they tried to fuck with, and i've yet to see anyone coming to their rescue. People would cheer to one being killed out in the street. The entire racial and political spectrum in Europe -and especially France- hate them.

And i believe most hate them for something they do who is profoundly repugnant : teaching their kids to become scammers/thieves/criminals the minute they can walk. So gyppos are doomed to remain this petty criminal scum forever because they never want a better future for their children, they just see them as cash bots who can't be jailed. Even though they are offered the opportunity to get free food and public school (and most are well off from all the thievery, they earn far, far more than any minimum wage worker). 10-12yo gyppo spawns in Paris already have 100+ arrestations to their name each.

>>56986627
>>56986636
Gotcha, thx bro. I've seen few restorating numisfags who also use dental "explorers" as in pic rel. Seems like a nice precision tool!

>>56986651
>clean it now.

Just seeing it kinda makes me feel a bit on edge, I feel compelled to work on it right now and would genuinely enjoy cleaning it, probably in a similar OCD vein to how some people are compelled to remove scabs or dig-out blackheads or whatever and are calmed and soothed by doing so. Much more healthy and productive to clean coins of course, but that raw underlying *feel* is likely very similar.

>>56986685
>I've seen few restorating numisfags who also use dental "explorers" as in pic rel. Seems like a nice precision tool!

Too big and clumsy for me honestly, I prefer my own home-made sharper and finer tipped tools, or a "pin vice" tool that I use to hold sharpened sewing pins.

>>56986755
>Too big and clumsy for me honestly, I prefer my own home-made sharper and finer tipped tools, or a "pin vice" tool that I use to hold sharpened sewing pins.
Jeez, i'm really not sure cleaning is for me. With my bloated paws the most precision i'm capable of is inserting a filter in my rolled cigs, and i already struggle to do that. Not sure i could even simply hold a sewing pin.

>>56986755
>pin vice

Tools like these, about the diameter of a pencil or pen so they're easy to hold. I've bought and tried using the fine tool tip things embedded with diamond dust (as a precision abrasive) like the ones clamped in the pin vices in picrel, they're good tools but I honestly prefer a super sharp small thin steel sewing pin, nothing else can get into the finest crevices like a simple sharp pin. You'll understand when you get a ~20x microscope and can actually see how the different things perform.

water fu

>>56986151
Agreed.
But it's the new norm.

>>56986817
>Jeez, i'm really not sure cleaning is for me. With my bloated paws the most precision i'm capable of is inserting a filter in my rolled cigs, and i already struggle to do that.

Nah man, you just simply haven't seen what you're capable of when you're using a ~20x microscope, as long as you don't have Parkinson's I'm certain that you'll really surprise yourself with what you can accomplish, your brain adjusts with a little practice and you'll be quite capable of the delicate fine-tuned movements needed to clean when you see everything at 20X, trust me man just get a scope!

I'm not stacking right now because of reasons but are we winning yet?

>>56986873
Did you bust your nut on that libertad set?
I bust my nut in small bursts and often,

>>56985625
neat

>>56986310
yikes

Oh my... just got the e-mail the Crusaders are on their way!

>>56986310
>does anybody have a more cursed piece of silver than this thing

More cursed than the visage of FDR about to gorge himself on buffet of Freemasonic foreskins? No, I don't think it's possible to top that lol. I do have a spoopy coin tho, never seen Medusa exuding as much malevolence as she does on this Greek silber.

>>56985660
>I overpaid but I don't care

Jadwigabros WAGMI

>>56986975
That's just one Libertad I got during a dip because I always wanted one. I rarely do the fancy sets but they do look nice.

>>56986310
I do, but I can't post it or I'll get b&.

Anyone else feel like $85 + for one silver coin + gold gild is way too much? Like what even happened. Customers not a vault

>>56987848
Inflation, supply chain issues, two weeks to flatten the curve, etc, etc.

>>56987848
you got a stupid coin that's going to sell for $250 on ebay seconds out the door and you're gonna complain about paying $85 for it?

you guys are so poor it hurts

>>56987848
buy 2, sell one on ebay, bam you just got paid money to take that coin. He's literally paying you to take them. Not just free silver, he's paying you to take it.

>>56987848
>Anyone else feel like $85 + for one silver coin + gold gild is way too much?
no. I think that's low. Really fucking low. I keep waiting for some millionaire to catch on to what's going on here and buy up the whole mint run. Then you can pay $400 for your coin like you deserve.
People here are so weird. Poor, dumb, whatever.

>>56987848
if a coin sells for $1400 on the secondary market, that's what it's worth.

you're complaining about mintanon giving you hundreds of dollars out of the honest and pure goodness of his heart.
And the funny part is he actually thinks you deserve it and feels bad when you bitch

fucking surreal.

>>56986256
pvc off gasses (sulfur?) and ruins silver

>>56985769
Dropped 132$ on 3.85 oz of silver lmao last week. Luv me 20 Balboas so much bros.

>>56988393
From what I’ve seen the PMs are usually vacuum sealed or packaged internally which makes a protective layer between the lovely silver and PVC death gas.

I don’t personally believe in these buried tubes. It’s almost free to build a completely invisible secret storage area in the comfort of your home versus burying a tube and a bunch of nails.

>>56988471
>and a bunch of nails.
doesn't do shit to stop anyone with a real metal detector.

I find dimes in piles of steel cans, sheet metal, and nails. I would definitely find a tube full of guns or silver.

>>56988034
>>56988085
>>56988102
>>56988354
Why are you samefagging?

>>56988498
keeps your thread bumped during the night, and releases my incredulity at the retardation itt.

you? Why you posting anon?

>>56988485
Exactly my point. I rarely leave my house, my wife is always here, I have guns and dogs, why make it more difficult to access my wealth?

>>56988545
yep hardest place for someone with a metal detector to find your junk is inside your house.

I'd still find it but it would take a day or two.

>>56986151
nice fingerprints

>>56986477
checked - was it fake?
>>56986537
I love my meme collection

If mint anon sees this, what can we expect the timing to be on the pirate coins? Would it take a similar amount of time as the crusaders (from presale to ship), quicker? Longer? Just trying to get an idea. Also, suggestion for next coin, Reichesmark. I mean if the mint isn’t too gay about design restrictions. Or a maybe another type of anime coin, maybe based on constitutionals, something like a Mercury dime or peace dollar.

>>56988940
Also, a weeb’d out standing liberty would be nice too. Something to consider.

Getting my Crusaders soon. I had faith and didn't cancel.

metals

When does apmex refresh their weekly deals?

>>56989590
fridays at around 5pm eastern, or close to that

>>56988940
Crusaders taking this long is a one-off thing caused by my being in a slump and getting way too lazy. Pirates I expect to have shipping by February.
>reichsmark
That could be something that happens after we obtain our own equipment eventually, but not a step I'd like to take with our current mint. I don't know what will come after Pirate yet

PRESALE PERIOD: Expected to January 30th, 2024. Adequate time will be given for people to wait until their Crusaders are in hand.

what the fuck do you people talk about in these threads anyway? investing in rocks is BORING

>>56985408
Bulking season is upon us!

>>56989604
>Crusaders taking this long is a one-off thing caused by my being in a slump and getting way too lazy.
It's ok, it's going to be fine. We all have had slumps.

>>56989604
>That could be something that happens after we obtain our own equipment eventually
I didn't even know that was on the horizon. MintAnon being an actual mint. So LFG. I'm hyped. Can't wait for some nazi silver and gold from 4chan.

>>56989603
Thank you anon.

>>56989604
Sounds good to me! Excited to see how the pirates turn out.

>what do you talk about?
various things.

>>56985625
Very nice, fren.

my last reward dollars for the year arrived

>>56989736
Rewards expire. just incase you were planning to keep saving;

>>56986155

>>56989752
statement credits every time. already applied

>>56989652
>investing in rocks is BORING
Just the way we like it.

Hey I’m 19, I need help. I started waging and my plan is to save up 500 each time then go buy silver or gold. I’ve already saved up my first 500, how do I know how to allocate for best value? Should I get 1/4 gold and the rest of it in silver ?

>>56989995
sure, that looks really good desu

>>56989995
Findbullionprices
silver at spot deals.
Dont worry about gold right now.

>>56989995
do quarter oz gold instead? do one silver, next gold, then silver, then gold?

>>56989995
You should be able to get 20oz at spot from what i can tell right now. Thats a hell of a start and ZERO premiums

>>56989995
buy at spot

>>56990048
I believe he's Canadian so, assuming he's not able to get tax free shipments from US vendors, he'll need the guidance of our Canuck frens on how to maximize the deals from RCM and it's points/rebate system.
>>56989995
Even with the higher premiums and tax vs US stackers, seeing as your money might actually be inflating faster than ours, I say: just get it! See if other Canadians here can give you any RCM tips/sales to look out for. I'm thinking there are probably certain times when they run known sales or something that could be worth saving a bit for, but idk myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1ohog0LD8
>CBDCs
>coming January 1?
Not sure if I'm mishearing him. Anyone else heard something remotely similar?
Granted, arriving does not equal acceptance as we've seen in other countries.

peepeepoopoo

>>56985408
>a seething jew made this statue

>>56989604
>>reichsmark
Make it a 14.88 ounce or 14.88 gram. PLEASE. That is of course when everything is squared away with production

>>56989995
I too started stacking when I was 19. Get 150-200toz silver first then start looking at 1/4toz gold, Sovs or 20 Francs. 1/10toz gold premiums are rough, even if buying a whole tube worth.

>>56990730
He's Canadian so I'm pretty sure they have to pay vat and/or sales tax on top of any silver premiums, whereas gold usually has less tax in commonwealth countries. This is why bongs and others tend to prefer it. Silver is seen as more of a "luxury" expense for those anons, while gold is their predominant PM store of value.

With that said, and I post this fairly often: 5-10gram bars typically have less premium than 1/10-1/4oz coins. You lose the ability to claim only the face value if crossing an international border, but if you're just dipping your toes into gold, it's not a bad option vs. smaller coins.

>>56989604
Are you still shipping the Crusaders? I haven't received a tracking number and I'm getting nervous

>>56990369
Well the MSM is reporting that a massive Cyber attack is imminent and day now (Somehow they have foreknowledge of this)

plus all the predictive programming regarding cyber attacks and the end of the world from those netflix shows produced by Obama of all people.

Wouldn't doubt if it's going down sooner rather than later.

>>56991146
Got my tracking number late last night

>>56984988
I love the fatty bars so much. Makes me want to melt my APMEX branded shit and pour my own.

>>56991176
Nice, sounds like he is still working on getting them out

>>56991153
My dick

>>56991153
I didn't know about all that, thanks for the leads. Latter part reminds me of an account highlighting how interesting the timing of that Civil War movie is.

>>56986133
with tooth and nail and bomb, gun and blade you fucking pussy

another 1911 5 rm came today

>>56985554
>>dark shadow people
kek i like this new nickname
T.mexican

>>56989652
my shiny rocks are way more interesting than shitty numbers representing equities on a screen

>>56989652
so is your mom’s anus but I’d pork her for the price of a merc

This was an interesting listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLebTimfi4E

>>56991153
>(Somehow they have foreknowledge of this)
We all did, 2 years ago, you just weren't paying attention.

>>56991499
I know a lot more now thanks to people trying to put the word out about PMs and financial systems. And there's still so much I don't know.

cat getting active. i think i might just have to

>>56991271
Eh I'm just trying to mitigate a risk here. But I don't understand all the mechanics of asset forfeiture. It seems that there is a step where the state might have to demonstrate that there is a reasonable suspicion, and later where they must demonstrate a preponderance of evidence, that the asset is involved in certain types of crime. I'm thinking if the asset is physically attached to records that indicate it was acquired legally, both of those steps would be way more difficult for them. Also, if you transport it in a container that is locked with a combination (instead of a key) they cannot compel you to open it and must obtain a warrant first. Which is pretty easy for them to do but it's an extra step and they might not be motivated to do it if they can't see what's inside. Thoughts?

>>56990994
>He's Canadian so I'm pretty sure they have to pay vat and/or sales tax on top of any silver premiums, whereas gold usually has less tax in commonwealth countries.
And I learned something new today. Thanks fren.
>>56991964
Looks AI generated, but if it's not, link?

>>56989652
Saving money is so BORING.

>>56992023
>converting paper into real money isn't boring
FTFY

>>56992017
https://limitedmintage.com/product/soldier-of-fortune-1-troy-ounce-39mm/

>>56989995
Check out silvergoldbull. I think they are one of the best online retailers in Canada.

>>56989665
based Bulksters bulk up

>>56991964
i like the cat beard
kek

>>56986201
this

>>56985422
100%
with land, they can always fuck you with taxes or by forcing undesirables to move in next door
it's usually a good asset but it's got nothing on gold/silver

>>56985105
boooota!

>>56992075
They were in stock when I clicked on the link, tried to order a few and they were immediately out of stock. I subscribed to the in stock alert. Thank you for the link fren!

>>56985105
>>56992422

>>56992442
spotted the homo

>>56991153
There's been a fuck load of cyber attacks going on for like a month now, and a lot this past week on US banks, hospitals, municipal systems etc...its just not being reported much.

Some L2 crypto networks went down or are fucked up/really slow today. The biggest (Arb) is apparently down at this moment.

>>56989652
>investing in rocks is BORING

Imagine projecting this hard, you bog-standard 2-dimensiona midwits are the most useless insipid little faggots on earth.

>>56986310
I have two of these. (picrel isn't mine)
Sibler is silber, niggers.

>>56989995
silvergoldbull, colonial acres, thecoinshoppe, td. Shop around for the best price. All the responses you have received would be great if you weren't north of the border. But the advice remains the same, I would aim for 1/4oz of gold to keep the premiums a little lower otherwise IQ might come and spazz out again.

Where is shipping’s info Mintanon ?

not really easy for to get in pictures, but still cartwheels fairly well through the toning

>>56990994
Most precious metals bullion in Canada is exempt from GST/HST. Provided the precious metals are defined as coins, bars, ingots, or wafers of gold, silver and platinum. Additionally, they must be refined to a minimum purity of 99.50% for Gold and Platinum, and 99.9% for silver. I only know this because I used apmex once. Duties are a different story though.

I was told silver was going to hit 40$

APMEX tongue my anus

>>56989995
>>56992719
I forgot to mention another source I used regularly, canadianpmx. Good luck anon.

>>56987412
catbox it bro

>>56992810
It will, but not before fluctuating up and down $5 at a time over the next 5 years though

>>56984988
SLURPED . COM

>>56993153
What's in the box?

>>56985105
>I make 3k$ a month after cost of living. How much on PMs and what else should I buy?

Make a Roth IRA and put in as much as you can every week to max your yearly contribution. You can always take out what you put in tax and penalty free. Invest wisely or just hold it in there as cash ready to buy crashes / dips.

Take the rest and start an emergency fund in fiat, once you're over 4-6 months rent, start buying all in on metals.

Or at least that's what I do.

>>56985903
Distributed among the population? Are you some kind of commie? Money is a medium of EXCHANGE! As soon as gold is remonetized it starts circulating as people begin exchanging it for goods and services. Stack gold and silver now so you can EXCHANGE it later for what other people produce. Then they have the gold and silver, only to exchange it with someone else. Money circulates. The reason fiat money tends to aggregate in certain hands is because the corrupt system allows some folks to create money while secretly stealing it from others. Once you eliminate that with sound money, it circulates. Not evenly because humans are not in any way "even" in their abilities or values. But no matter how the gold and silver are distributed when the starting gun goes off, it is a certainty that the distribution will change immediately and never stop changing.

>>56992637
Melt than satanic crap

>>56993562
>>56992637
into the oven it goes

>>56992637
imagine buying random rounds and they give you these kek

>>56989652
It's not boring. It's like sitting on a grassy hill in the shade of an old oak tree sipping on a cold beer while watching Sodom burn to the ground.

>>56991276
Ha! In the thumbnail I thought that was your skin.

>>56985105

PMs, mining stocks (see /CMMG/) , BITF, MARA, RIOT.

Bull flag pattern present.
Checkem.

mintanon will surely ship my crusaders today

>>56993153
I hate these buffalo bars, I have like 12 of them.

>throw my green not hive grenade
>it is shaped like a hive worm and crawls like a worm, but again, it is unrelated to the hive witch queen dlc

>>56994115
what the fuck are you talking about

>>56994149

>>56993866
i wish :(

>>56993965
is he going to miss christmas?

>>56994199
Why? You’d be the darkest man alive

>>56994264
think how much easier midnight mischief would be if you were that dark

>>56993370
Copper cents

>>56994363
Based Metal :)

>>56994199
Looks like you have been handling some non-precious metal.

>>56994286
You would need to blacken your teeth like a Japanese courtesan from Edo.

Looking to get maybe one last order of silver cheapies before we moon

>>56993524
Is a Roth IRA something that goes through your employer or something you can set up independently like bonds or stocks? Something about anything I can’t hold, even an envelope of fiat, turns me off.

>>56993980
Buffalos are objectively the worst design. I can’t think of anything close. Even Austrian weiners with their Microsoft Office image decals and no reeds win out.

>>56994579
Listen, buddy, we love Weiners here. Wieners are /pmg/'s favorite thing to slurp.

>>56994560
Roth IRA's are individual accounts set up through a broker. You make money, pay taxes on it, then put it in a Roth IRA to grow tax free. You don't pay any taxes on the gains(assuming they never change the law). You can buy whatever you want since they're usually self directed. The individual contribution limit for 2023 is $6,500 and for 2024 it's $7,000. Of you have a wife, you can contribute $13,000/$14,000 between the two of you. Remember, it grows tax free- compared to a brokerage account which you have to pay yearly taxes on the profits when you sell an equity.

>>56991276
nice silwer

>>56994678
Nah I’m good dog. I got a sunroom to build and after that I’m stacking purely gold, silver, and dry powder. Fuck land if hyper inflation hits I’m covered both ways. There isn’t enough love given to stacking fiat in addition to metals, guns, and food. It protects you from the existential dread of a car breaking down or a random expensive home repair.

>>56984988
still bulking

>>56993965
>>56994220
Working through all the orders. Getting the rounds prepped took longer than expected between the new job and moving to a new place

>>56995052
Nice. How's the new job going?

>>56995052
based Minty!
doin God's work with honor and fidelity

>>56995052
What does a small scale coin minting setup look like? I’ve explored hand pours and 3D printed molds but this seems worth the initial investment. What the hell do I look up online, though?

>>56995103
Very good thank you. Continuing my time in various shipping positions
>>56995137
cheers, happy to finally be getting them out to people

>>56994851
There is no point stacking fiat instead of gold. If your car breaks you just sell an oz for 20% profit.

>>56991964
>>56992423
It was back in stock. I placed an order for a few. I'll post a pic or two when they arrive.

>>56995222
>i wont have my cruzies in time for Xmas so i can afford one to my bro and keep the other
i hate u mintfren

>>56995293
I'm sorry it took so long, post or email order # and I'll do what I can

>>56995301
Nah, no need for any preferential treatment, that wouldn't be fair to the other frens. Beside i'm living in France so it's already joever for me, the customs alone will keep the package in standstill for few days.

Best you can do to apologize is to declare the tiniest amount possible on my order (#1273) so i don't get double raped by my (((postal services + custom taxes))).

>>56984988
My gold stock just went up 43% this week. I think junior miners are starting to wake up after being down 90%

>>56995301
I sent an email as well. Looking forward to the pirates.

>>56995261
Having enough fiat on tap to cover a car repair isn't "stacking", anon.

>>56995488
>mfw i don't even have enough fiat "stacked" to replace the tires on my shitbox

>>56995488
If you drive a BMW, it is.

>>56995293
>i hate u mintfren
dont hate. it's christmas. no bully here fren

>>56995535
That’s retarded, anon, and I’m banking on my second car surviving until my current shitbox explodes. Having the money to not sweat the constantly likely bullshit problem is a peace of mind few know.

>>56995596
You're supposed to lease those and write off the payment as depreciation under your business.

would buying/panning ~100% ROI gold paydirt be worth the hassle for under 1/4oz purchases? looks cheaper that way especially if can find free shipping.

>>56996002
No. You can watch youtube videos of people doing this and they are almost exactly what they promise. It's just dirt with some gold flakes tossed in. If you see a video of someone getting some great pay-dirt then it's nothing more than an advertisement to get you to buy some gold. Do it to have fun but not as an investment lol.

>>56995665
It not done purposefully fren, i'm just that poor.

>>56996002
"paydirt" is a common online scam. You're not going to make 10% ROI, let alone 100%

we mix this stuff up in basements to sell to suckers. It's already been panned, that's where the gold came from in the first place. It's just some panned gold and black sand measured out into home depot sand and then bagged up and shipped to you.

>>56996113
tires have gone up so much in the last five years or so. sucks

>>56996002
>would me falling for an obvious scam be profitable?
Sure, but not for (you).

>>56995535
Lol, sounds like me. I used to keep money in the bank but now I live paycheck to paycheck to fund my silver obsession. The next huge bull run might be only 2 weeks away...

we stacked and we stacked
we waited and stacked some more
and then we all made it
and lived happily forever

>>56996124
Yes it's disgusting. What makes it worse for me is my car is an old coupe sport from 2000 with weird ass tires' sizes, and as of anything slightly out of the ordinary with cars, you get raped to death with changing parts.

I legit believe the cars' reparation industry is more corrupt and scummy than even banks and insurance companies. Especially now manufacturers put all kind of useless electronics nobody ever asked for and they can shut down/"break" at will and make you pay thousands USD for a software update who costed them $1.
And ofc your car refuse to start if the electronic sensor for some obscure shit you never heard about isn't functioning properly, keeping you hostage until you pay.

That's why i 100% refuse to drive anything with electronics in it. I will only drive old manual cars until it's made illegal (to somehow save mommy earth of course). And even once it's illegal i'll continue to pollute my way in, in my old shitbox while listening to pink floyd's cassette tapes, and run over glowies if they try to stop me.
Such is the way of the 30yo boomie.

1/4 dragon came in today

>>56996206
>>56996113
dangerously based
Also I pose a question to this comfy thread: what did the museum mean by this????
>Unlike paper money, gold and silver coins were intrinsically valuable

>>56996206
>2006 HONDA CIVIC

>>56996373
That’s based.
There’s just something about those that drive ancient Civics and Corollas

metal detecting anon

found my first merc in a park that was only built in the 70s, so probably someones lucky coin

>>56996422
Nice find! unless it was practically on the surface i'd just assume it was lost before the park was established, check old maps or directories, maybe there was a house/homestead or business operation in there somewhere that would be worth focusing your detecting around.

>>56996422
What’s the legality of metal detecting on public lands?

>>56996478
I never find shit and everyone looks at me like im retarded.
Got a pound of copper pipes and several sterling earrings pearls, (((diamonds)). not a single silver coin.

>>56996484
>what did you find?
Nothing. The answer is always nothing.

>>56996484
Who gives a fuck.

>>56996484
depends on the jurisdiction and what you're likely to find.

US Federal land you can still detect anywhere you're not likely to find artifacts. Artifacts are defined as anything more than 100 years old, so anything before 1923. So basically you can detect FS and BLM in parking lots, campgrounds, picnic areas, and open land, but not for any artifacts.

State and local lands vary a lot, but if you're autistic enough to detect around schools and parks they'll probably ignore you.

In my area the best places to detect or roadsides on county roads that went through private property. Generally don't need permission, and the cops usually leave you alone. Not always, but usually.

>>56996504
Fair enough.
>>56996503
Who would even want to tel it from you? I could see national parks or something being gay about it, because “historical significance” or whatever of whatever you find. But do they really expect people to hand over the shit IF they find anything?

>>56996478
If that penny turns out to be a 1931-S then you're in business.
Don't fuck it up cleaning it.

>>56996547
>do they really expect people to hand over the shit IF they find anything?
yes, yes they do.

but in real life they just write you a $300 ticket and don't worry about whatever you found. It's possible you found something worth more than $300 before they wrote you a ticket and told you to get lost, but it's extremely unlikely.

>>56996504
r u d e

>>56996539
>Artifacts are defined as anything more than 100 years old
>can of beenz from 1921 is considered an artifact in clownburgerland

>>56996595
Yep, and they're not picky. Worthless square nails or some bit of bottle glass in your pocket will get you a ticket at the very least. It doesn't have to be valuable, just old.

I avoid detecting federal land in the US for this reason. They don't fuck around and there's a shitload of them out there driving around looking for people to give tickets to.

>>56996604
Don't belittle their vital mission fren! They have a $34 trillions gap to plug, that's a shitload of tickets.

>>56996619
kek
probably true though. I worked as a contractor for the FS once and they were asking me if I could donate some office paper or pens or something because their budget was too small. It was an illegal request, I'm legally not allowed to donate anything to the government. So I just laughed and said no. But I think they're broke. Probably got a ticket quota or something.

Scrap anons, how do you handle estate sales? I've had small amounts of luck locally finding sterling for under spot, and I've found a sale tomorrow that has a number of heavy items. Will the estate sale company look at me sideways for bringing a kitchen scale?

The prices that I can see look pretty good, like one of pic related for $50. Ebay has one listed for three times that, and says it's 120 grams of sterling, so solidly under the melt value. Other than getting there first, is there anything else I should look out for? Is it reasonable to negotiate if you're spending a lot?

Any advice for an aspiring goblin looking to loot boomer treasure?

>>56996273
Very nice. Gonna get 3 more?

>>56996604
>They don't fuck around and there's a shitload of them out there driving around looking for people to give tickets to.
Game wardens are the same way. I don’t know how they do it but you could be in the middle of nowhere and they show up hauling ass on ATVs. Then a few of them pull up all along the main roads out of nowhere. HOW did you even know we were there? theyre ghosts man.
We stayed under a bridge that they were on one time for 30mins until they left. They were right above us talking shit.

>>56996730
Might just go for the 1/2 or full. Really nice coin, super bullish on gold.

>>56996677
What was the link to find local estate sales?
>Is it reasonable to negotiate if you're spending a lot?
Yeah it’s fine, as long as it’s a lot like you say. If you try to bargain with them over $50 you’ll just look like a jew. I’d say for every thousand you spend, asking for $100 off is fair. 300 for 3k, etc.

>>56996677
>Will the estate sale company look at me sideways for bringing a kitchen scale?
They might, but who cares? It's nothing that'll get you escorted out or b& or anything if that's what you're worried about. It might activate the almonds of other shoppers and encourage them to look for cheapies too tho. Bring your own sturdy reusable shopping bag to carry slurps and the scale so people don't see you carrying it around the whole time.
>Other than getting there first, is there anything else I should look out for?
Look for desirable makers like Tiffany, antique aesthetic movement or "mixed metal" sterling silver items by companies such as Gorham or Whiting like picrel, or really desirable patterns like Shreve & Co's "14th century" pattern. Fancy little things like "vestas" (matchstick cases), pillboxes, sewing pin containers, tea infuser balls etc. are also often worth many times melt.
>Is it reasonable to negotiate if you're spending a lot?
Might be possible if it's a 1-off sale ran by the family, but if it's by an actual estate sale company then no usually prices are all quite firm, the 1/3 or 1/2-off discounts come after Noon or on the 2nd/3rd day. They may be wise to "STERLING" marked stuff but often don't understand English sterloing hallmarks or European silver alloys like .800, .830, .835 etc.

>>56994199
why would you ever want to be a nigger?

>>56996677
Check every piece of silverplate and silverware that they have for their markings.
I do it every time l go to an estate sale/garage sale/thrift store/antique store/whatever the fuck.
It's paid off for me over the months of searching. Gl bro.

>>56997002
>What was the link to find local estate sales?

www.estatesales.net

>>56997108
What's that chonky lookin' Birmingham piece?

>>56997108
What region do you operate?
too many playing the game in midwest. everyone knows their shit. I have a booth where i sell antiques i spend hours a month combing for flips. never hit anything silver wise.

any of you guys use this site before? did it go well?

>>56997358
I wonder if things were different in estate sales back in 2018/2019 when silver was under the radar, crabbing at $14/15.
How many slurpers were created nationwide from silver getting so popular among civilians post-scamdemic?

>>56997384
Its good except 1 horror story from anon where they fucked up his order. I like it a lot, they have the best variety. I ordered your picrel when it was 24, got Gaudens, Indian head,

>>56996677
Don't forget to look after pewter too.

>>56997358
>too many playing the game in midwest

the sales in central Illinois have treated me extremely well since childhood, slurped at least a little bit of cheap silver at each of the last 4 or 5 I went to in IL.

>>56997397
how long did shipping take for you?

>>56997398
>Don't forget to look after pewter too.

Based and Tin-pilled

>>56997390
I’ve seen the people that have won sterling which they paid too much for, theyre all old and have always been silver bugging, atleast here. I flip the old chess tables etc or piles of junk for 3x and buy silver with my winnings. but i do wish i could get a bunch and mail them in for bars like that other anon. Still laboring for my stack either way.

>>56997399
You don't count bro, you are out of any category. I suspect you manifest cheapies into reality by simply thinking about them, you jungian freak.

>>56997358
The south.
I too am guilty of running an antique booth but l mainly do it on the side with my mom who's really into flipping furniture and shit. All the silver l find l just add to the dragon hoard. Lol.

>>56997426
>I suspect you manifest cheapies into reality by simply thinking about them, you jungian freak.

My whole family has come to this same conclusion as well, kek.

>>56997439
>The south
I killed it in the south. Up here everyone “Knows what they got”. too smart and productive to be ripped off. Its dead. I have a better time exploiting the global market to cater to the local here, which is what ive transitioned to. My primary consumer is teenage girls and middle aged women. The consumers here are par excellence and always searching for the best deal. In Texas they overpay on whatever i put out. Brown people are the best consumers to exploit.

>>56997493
And we don’t have brown people.

Since we are on topic, i present you my last score. Took me a while to polish her, she was the blackest gorilla spooner i've ever seen.

>>56997384
I've used them a bunch of times, no issues and they processed my eCheck/shipped quickly every time. Would recommend, as they have some of the best prices when you catch sales.

>>56997508
Old hallmarks, it's called from maitre-abonné (master subscriber?) where the silversmith would stamp x3 his crafter mark, probably around 1650.

>>56997508
>>56997534
>probably around 1650
Damn look at them hallmarks, nice extra-old spoon fren what is the weight/length?

Monument is having a nice junk half dollar sale
>he said to no one in particular

I will say something for the mexicans in the south. these little shits would just go up and say “dollar” at garage sales and scoop up loads of shit. This one spic showed me a bunch if those Battlestar galactica models he got for a dollar supposedly and i believe him. he didnt want to buy mine because i wouldnt budge off $20. well i sold it for $100 recently. paid $5. They dont know the real value but when you buy them for $1 its always a win. They are jews at negotiating too. some old mexican lady guilting was trying to tell my wife i’m mean. My wife who is redpilled said “whatever he says he knows best”. and she tried to pull some shit like im the bad guy. i dont control her at all, she just knows better.

>>56997558
I called the fire department on them for burning trash in their backyard twice and left them a note in crudely written spanish. im glad to be out of the south Desu.

>>56997554
Got silver quarters below MELT on ebay today. Someone make a Reichsmark OP for old times sake.

>>56997539
73gr, around 20cm i'd say. Pretty light-weight and tiny compared to some others.
What bothers me is the later-added monogram and mini taxes stamp (very tiny crab below the marks) post-revolution, both added circa early 1800. It's polluting my old artifact.
I've came across a bunch of those over time, it was the government taxing a second time old silverware, in the name of the previous taxation system (royalty) not being legitimate and thus not recognized by the newly formed constitutional government. Thus a newly proper and legitimate© tax was required. Whatever excuse was good enough to finance the napoleonic wars i guess. Smart people hid away their silver, but just like in 1933 for you, you always have a bunch of tards/bootlickers surrendering their stuff if they are asked for it in the name of the ""greater good"".

Very reminescent of the crap they are pulling all the time nowaday, but it's even more shameless now.

>>56997658
>it was the government taxing a second time old silverware, in the name of the previous taxation system (royalty) not being legitimate and thus not recognized by the newly formed constitutional government. Thus a newly proper and legitimate© tax was required. Whatever excuse was good enough to finance the napoleonic wars i guess.

Thanks for discussing this fren, I remember reading about the silver re-tariffing/taxing as an offhand mention somewhere but haven't looked into it. Do you know how the tax was levied? A certain amount of Francs or Centimes per unit of weight of silverware, or a set cost for each separate piece, or...?

>>56997710
>Do you know how the tax was levied? A certain amount of Francs or Centimes per unit of weight of silverware, or a set cost for each separate piece, or...?
No idea, just like you i just read few sentences about it a while back, but i don't have in mind any details. If i stumble upon it one of these days i'll post the QRD here.

>>56996818
Yep where I'm at they're the same people. The feds and the state work out of the same office and take turns playing game wardens. The funny part is I know all of them and I'm good friends with a few of them, but they still try to hassle me.
I have permission from the sheriff to detect any county road easement I want, but the feds will act like I'm not allowed to detect when the county road goes through federal land. I have to remind them they don't have jurisdiction until I step off the county easement, and then they usually leave. I've had them sit and watch me for hours before though. Just waiting to see if I go out of bounds which of course I don't. Our tax dollars at work I guess. For a broke agency with no budget they sure do pay a lot of people to sit on their butts all day.

>>56997658
>Very reminescent of the crap they are pulling all the time nowaday, but it's even more shameless now.

I liked a based schizoanon's theory that the focus being directed at the untenable renewable green solarshit energy goals for 2030 or 2050 are the pretext for raiding all the silver vaults/ETFs. We need 4X the silver that has ever been mined to save the world, so all good "global citizens" must do their part and give Shlomo their stack.

>>56997802
>We need 4X the silver that has ever been mined to save the world
and half of that is gone, so more like 8x, right? Silver confiscation isn't an outlandish idea. It could happen.

>>56997782
>For a broke agency with no budget they sure do pay a lot of people to sit on their butts all day.

A protracted budget impasse and Gov't shutdown would open up a whole lot of prime detecting locations...

>>56997813
I wish.

I've lived through probably a dozen gov shutdowns. They don't lay off "essential workers," which oddly enough includes their entire staff. As a contractor I get laid off sometimes and sometimes not. Depends on the work we're doing.

>>56997658
Wow I had no idea that happened. And I paid attention in history class.

>>56997810
>confiscation isn't an outlandish idea. It could happen.

Start it right now. Don’t wait until I’m old please.

>>56997813
the other thing they do is bring in a group of guys with detectors to clean out the really interesting places before looters can get to them. I've worked on a few of those projects. You go in and detect an entire grid covering say a ghost town, over and over until there's nothing left. They watch every time you dig. Clean the place out, plot artifacts on a map, stick them in boxes in a closet somewhere.

But I do know of a few places they own that have never been systematically detected and probably should be. Not that I would ever loot their ghost towns. Not at all. I've made millions doing honest work for the forest service alone, and wouldn't jeopardize that relationship for something as worthless as a one-of-a-kind saloon token from a town on federal land. Not me, never.

but I'd sure be tempted.

>>56997802
Definitely, i totally expect the media to paint us stackers as the bad goyim who hold back the green revolution© and progress© because we are like greedy dragons who refuse to share with our green comrads.

But i also believe by stating such enormities, they are trying to force the public to understand the future isn't for everybody.
When they say we will need to mine x2 the copper we mined since antiquity in just 7 years, anyone with a modicum of common sense know it's absolutely impossible.
So if the demand in metals/materials can't be met for a sustainable future©, what is the other variable you can adjust to reach this utopia? The number of humans.

For now they like to pretend they can reach something unreachable. But you'll see, in a year or two they will finally admit the obvious truth :
>wow guyz our numbers are fucking insane, we simply can't meet the quotas!
Then they will say
>ok, by our figures, mhmm lemme see... we have the ability to create a sustainable future only for... 1 billion humans. We really must do our best to achieve this goal, the future can't wait! The evil carbon is assfucking my wife AS WE SPEAK

Then we will see ads popping out everywhere about how nice and dandy assisted suicide is, or permanent castration. Canada is the testing ground for this agenda. In 2022 MAIDS was something like the 4th cause of death in leafland, it's insane. Even teens can participate if they don't feel gud.

>>56997863
we have a town historian who writes books about the comings and goings, he is very explicit in detail, we havent had anything like that and were along MKT, i doubt the legitimacy of what your saying Bob.But i always do.

>>56997844
I'll be a billionaire off silver before they start confiscation, but that's also not an impossible idea or anything. All I need is sustained prices above $60 and I'm in the money. Probably won't happen soon, but that depends on how hard they push the green energy thing.

>>56997810
>Silver confiscation isn't an outlandish idea. It could happen.

If they frame it as an exigent matter of national security they could probably ramrod all sorts of shit. The feds seized and redirected shipments of PPE from their rightful owners or contracted purchasers earlier in 2020, if feds are willing to commandeer N95s they'll commandeer your silver and gold too if they their mockingbird media constructs and hypes a half-decent justification for it.

>>56997884
Oh i know theyll hate us. by spending silver heavily at the right time we will incorporate more dissidents. Thinking about buying a building downtown and giving away mercury dimes if they subscribe to my newsletter. And just skim off my own stash.

NES THREAD

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>>56997885
>i doubt the legitimacy of what your saying Bob.But i always do.
kek
why would I lie? You know I'm a federal contractor and you know I like to metal detect.

The FS regularly gets volunteer metal detectors together to sweep ghost towns and other important sites on their land. I don't know that you have anything that valuable where you're at.

I'm talking places where you can expect to find gold, silver, coins, jewelry, and tokens potentially worth tens of thousands of dollars. Basically every mining boom town in the west.

>>56997907
>NES
Ha, how cute of me.

>>56997894
>The feds seized and redirected shipments of PPE from their rightful owners or contracted purchasers earlier in 2020,
I made so much money, you wouldn't even believe.

>>56997914
Hey Bob, i actually dont mind you now. youve toned it down quite a bit. Anons dont suck your gash as hard. You defended mintanon, owned our deradicalization jewish handlers. its ceasefire from the gaza strip for now. Dont go gay on me.

>>56997894
imagine being a federal contractor that owns a literal warehouse full of toilet paper, tyvex coveralls, N95 masks, face shields, respirators and cannisters, medical gloves, chemtape, paper towels, hand sanitizer, surface sanitizers, clorox wipes, ozone machines, chemical sprayers, UV lights, etc.

so much money it was insane. I will never see that kind of luck again. Sucks for the people that died, but damn did it pay.

>>56997948
>Sucks for the people that died
Please…

>>56997947
I don't care if you like me or not bro.

I came in to chase off IQ. Once that's done I'm mostly going to shut up and fuck off. The threads are better without me or him.

>>56997957
>I came in to chase off IQ. Once that's done I'm mostly going to shut up and fuck off.
Thats not true Bob. You’re a loud mouth and completely incorrigible. you say any different and you’re not Bob.

>>56997884
>Then we will see ads popping out everywhere about how nice and dandy assisted suicide is, or permanent castration. Canada is the testing ground for this agenda. In 2022 MAIDS was something like the 4th cause of death in leafland, it's insane. Even teens can participate if they don't feel gud.

Yep, I believe you're right. The aristocracy of the past needed a large underclass to do all the labor, but the workers and thinkers of the world have just about constructed the means for our self-appointed elites to automate most of that work, so I'm sure they're anxiously awaiting the moment they can pull the plug and watch us goyim cannibalize ourselves from the comfort of their AI robo-bunkers under New Zealand or wherever.

>>56997948
>damn did it pay.

I can only imagine. My pure chloroquine and ivermectin became more valuable than gold, it was better than when people were paying $10.00/g right after fukushima for potassium iodide which cost $0.05/g.

>>56997957
>don't care if you like me or not bro
why do you have to go off lying again my dude?

>>56997835
Me neither, but tbf it's not *that* important in regard of all the shenanigans who occured during this period. Students barely study the assignats system even though it had a huge impact during this period. To this day most monetary instruments like Tbonds derive from this scam, ie printing securities on non-existing collaterals. Then promising yields you can't pay but by printing more bonds you'll sell in the future.

And well... we are the most taxed nation on earth, and it probably always have been like that. Our history books would look like a giant tax receipt if we had to list those kek.
Even if in truth it's a formidable subject, you can't understand history if you don't have a grasp of the taxation system. Most rebellions and revolutions started after taxes going too wild. It's also the most powerful tool of control over populations, taxes alone can kill entire nations.

Just last week an old fart was invited on TV liberté and he wrote about the history of taxes, it looked very interesting ngl, i'm really tempted to dive into it.

>>56997969
kek'd and true.
but I left the thread alone for 2 straight years and in that time they allowed IQ to come in and keep right on bobposting. Fuck that. If anyone is going to bobpost it's going to be bob. And as soon as he's very clearly gone, I am too.

be nice to Lassen (schizoanon) if you see him, unless you are him. He stacks like a mf

>>56997997
>he wrote about the history of taxes

It took me 10 years to get through but picrel is the QRD

>>56998001
Nigger, who was that old man with businesses x gorillion. fudding silver because he made it off mining. Dont kid yourself, or me. you know i dont like that.

>>56997990
>My pure chloroquine and ivermectin became more valuable than gold,
yep. I was under antigouging laws, but I turned a $100k inventory into several million in gov contracts. Crazy times and a once-in-a-lifetime event.
Hopefully.

>>56998034
i think you are onto something fren

>>56998045
>who was that old man with businesses x gorillion. fudding silver because he made it off mining.
that was me. Check the dates. I was gone from about early 2021 to this year. Mostly in /cmmg/ playing with the guys there, but also just doing my thing off the internets. I did a lot of metal detecting, did some business, fucked around on /an/ for a while. Ignored /pmg/ until I saw what IQDELET was up to.

>>56998034
kek'd out loud

MIGRATE

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>>56998073
thanks based baker

>>56997954
>Please…
I bought up their coin collections, I know for a fact a lot of boomers died. The "disease" suddenly stopped killing boomers after a year, so I have to assume they died from the treatment, not the disease. But they very certainly died.

>>56997954
I mean imagine you're a 90 year old coin collector and you catch the new scary cold. They rush you into the hospital, stick you on a respirator, put you in a medically induced coma, and don't let your family or friends visit you.

of course you're going to die.

the only question is if the cold killed you or the doctors killed you. I'd guess it was a bit of both, but mostly the doctors.