/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56969521
MARA BROS WE'RE SO BACK

They looked you dead in the face and said TMF is going to be a vertical green line for the next year and you will gamble on something else instead

Seriously moving to 100% TMF

>SPX 1D RSI
78

>UPRO
>XXXX
I've told you anons these are the only investments you need.

>DOW ATH
>NASDAQ 100 ATH
>SPY ATH TOMORROW
>BEING BOBO

>>56969521
COIN to $200 before EOY

MAG7 DOOD

WAT NOU?

YOU PUSH IT

I'm so close to breaking even on my soxl

Why is everyone (not just shitposters) making fear porn of another bear market this Q1. Some of them are actually pivoting to Q2 being the start after Powell's remarks today.

BUDDY, look at approval rating computer. There needs to be a presidential approval rating ETF so that I can directly short the Biden administration.

Well I bought Chink stocks... Going to make some cornmeal now because that's all I can afford.

>Everything ATH

GO ALL IN RIGHT NOW

Check Lum computer!!

>>56969581
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
YOU PUSH IT

>>56969583
Just in time to rotate into and lose money in oil

>>56969587
50 cents have been deposited into your account, thank you for your service! Wait, sorry, my bad:
>50 centów zostało wpłaconych na Twoje konto, dziękujemy za Twoją usługę!

>>56969549
Pamela, is that you?
>>56969555
Not such a huge fan of RSI but in combination with others, it is pretty alright for trading. But holy hell a lot of indices right now are almost at 90. Fully embedded. We are going much higher. There might be a small sell-off but that should only be viewed as a buying opportunity. S&P to 5000 by EOY confirmed and probably 6000 by end of next year

>>56969521
just propping up my yuan anon

>>56969556
Concerned. When do I SELL UPRO. Surely you don’t hodl forever…

>>56969574
I think that's what significant here. The market was being propped up by the magnificent 7. Now everything else is up

>>56969626
>centów
we use groszy

WAGMI

>>56969603
Lum is single-handedly carrying this market

Anyone follow that money motive guy on Twitter?

I keep seeing his shit about foolproof options plays but it all seems too good to be true

Bobos are going to die again tommorow

>>56969637
Basically Jpow said go ahead speculate again. Inflation will rip higher next year.

tfw no crash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wonVGQ64fjM

>There is a Santa Claus, Virginia

>>56969574
Just fourteen days from now actually.
>>56969628
I'm buying every single dip until the curve un inverts. We're going to squeeze all of them out.

>>56969637
True. I wonder how far this can go, judging by my graph from earlier I guess Fag7 could go down about -18% compared to SPY^2.5, but that could just mean Fag7 stagnating while SPY goes up +8%

Imagine the liquidations that occurred today. Holy fuck.

fuck me, nobody's going to check my post because i posted it in the dead thread. D=

>>56969680
Reminder this dumb fuck screen capped me thinking I was wrong. If SPY isn't 480 by the end of the year I'm killing myself.

>>56969702
and then I was retarded and had to reply to my own post. see >>56969688

>>56969702
I wouldnt check your post anyway your gay

>post yfw when inflation doesn't matter anymore
https://youtu.be/w15oWDh02K4?si=hj_tm-5cJoP-lCVT

>>56969703
BOBOS CAN SUCK MA DICK, HA-HA-HA!!!

>>56969699
I am fully confident in bears continuing to drive this rally as they continue to get squeezed. Focken hell they are so stupid

>>56969634
Look at the 10 year return. It's leveraged on something that goes up, not something that crabs full time. If I new it was going to stop going up I would sell, but then I would also make a bunch of plays depending on what I knew and be a millionaire with crazy leverage.
XXXX might have to much volatility decay to make it worth it long term so I'm leaning towards UPRO. Not forever but maybe 10 years.

>>56969703
I'd handle those cups if you know what I mean.

DXY needs your support. Invest in war bonds today.

Does anyone know how does this impact china? I have a lot of money invested and i may want to kill myself

Bears capitulating, interesting.

>>56969574
>bad breadth --> good breadth

We're healing desu!

Which Mexican manufacturing stocks do I long?

Anyone use the Equivolume chart type? Looks pretty cool.

>>56969726
>maybe 10 years.
UPRO is down -60% from decay over the last 10 years, and the slope of decay got worse recently. If SPY trades flat for the next 10 years you'll lose half of your money, probably more.

REMINDER THAT EVERYONE THOUGHT WE WERE FINE AND WERE GOING INTO ANOTHER FULL BORE BULL MARKET AND THEN THEY GOT FUCKED IN THE ASS


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>56969734

why did the markets go up> what did powell say? are rates cutting?

>>56969737
For every Dollar of ppp the US loses China loses 8-10.

the plan has continued since the Trump years. Hopefully our countries have enough staying power to take their market share back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYTYqs-ytSk

>>56969556
>>56969634
I know we meme about it a lot, gentlemen. But you cannot just buy and hold XXXX. UPRO maybe. But not XXXX.

>>56969741
Top signal

>>56969768
I just calculated and if the rate of decay of the past year (-13.7% per year) continues then in 10 years UPRO will go down -77% from decay.

>>56969752
What's in EWW?

>>56969768
>If SPY trades flat for the next 10 years you'll lose half of your money, probably more.
Good thing that won't happen.

>>56969793
I don't think this graph works for LETFs, they didn't have LETFs for those years, do you think they really took LETF decay into account? I kinda doubt it. What if people have been trading LETFs based on such faulty backtests and it only really works if we get a decade+ long bullrun?

>>56969820
Well you've got a serious headwind regardless

>1 month return is only 13.1%
>Before daily inflation

>>56969796
Not even close.

>>56969752
I could save her

>>56969831
1950 to 2009 *was* a multidecade bullrun. It's doubtful the US ever again achieves that kind of real growth.

The mid 21st century meta is letting Direxion take out cheap debt from the Fed, paying your token LETF fees, and leveraging +5% returns (-5% real) into 15% (+5% real) returns.

>>56969836
HOO EUPHORIC HEAR

Apple stock chads rejoice!
Apple user cucks keep consuming!

>>56969863
AMERICAN WON YOU SALTY POLTARD TRAITOR
BILLIONS OF MARKETCAPS MUST RISE

>>56969863
>It's doubtful the US ever again achieves that kind of real growth.

>>56969884
A 2024 America start is different from a 1950 America start, for two very important reasons.

I hope tomorrow isn't too green or soon I won't have any capital losses to offset my gains for taxes.

>>56969863
>1950 to 2009 was a multidecade bullrun
>we are going to stop innovating, creating, working, growing, and just decline for several decades now just for no reason
>digital dark ages bro
Holy fuck you guys are dumb. How do you doomer shit heads look yourselves even in the mirror everyday and not think "stupid jackass" when you see your self reflection?

>>56969651
the only foolproof options play is to sell Way OTM calls to full retards.

>>56969901
Every single AI ends up Tay'd. And even then, you think we'll lay off diversity hires and H-1B's just because AI can do their jobs? Get with the times.

>>56969831
>Well you've got a serious headwind regardless
Not really. The decay looks worse recently because interest rates are higher, but those interest rates are ponzi interest paid out of a growing deficit. If congress got off its ass and cut entitlement spending, then maybe you'd have a point.

>>56969726
Should I have sold my 250 shares of UPRO today?

>>56969863
>and leveraging +5% returns (-5% real) into 15% (+5% real) returns.
so you missed the point of my post. With current UPRO -13.7%/year decay your +5% nominal unleveraged gains turn into 1.05^3 * 0.863 = 0.99903 or in other words no nominal gains per year before inflation. +5% unleveraged turns into -0.1% when 3x leveraged.

>SPX is 2.3% below its ATH
>UPRO is 32% below its ATH
>JUST BUY AND HOLD A LEVERAGED ETF GOY, I SWEAR IT IS THE BEST PLAY TO DO OVER 10 YEARS
whoever does this deserves the ass raping they'll get

>>56969521
Thank you Mr. Russell for the profits

>>56969954
>we will never surpass ATH again
>It's over
Faggot

>>56969934
So what you're telling me is "don't worry about interest rates bro, just buy the LETF, ZIRP will be back in no time"

>>56969752
I would like to believe she got herself fucked silly and passed out, but sadly, there really people out there, that desperate that they would find a bitch like this and pull her skirt down and fuck her

>>56969969
that's not the point of his post, he's saying that SPX is close to ATH but UPRO is way down

>>56969964
GIVE ME GAINZ, DOROTHY

>>56969981
Why not?

I fucking love you faggots (no homo).

>>56969981
why would you need to pull her skirt down? it's a fucking skirt.

>>56969950
>With current UPRO -13.7%/year decay
UPRO's up 63% on the year while SPY is up 22%. You're spazzing out about a negligible factor.

Or are we counting holding during the world's most obvious selloff (2020)? Or the last year the Fed will ever try to fight inflation (2022)?

>>56969969
SPX can reach a new ATH this week while UPRO needs a never before seen pump for that to happen
holding SPX all this time you'd be getting new ATH for your port while UPRO would be down 30%
you are an inbred nigger if you cannot comprehend something this simple

>>56969979
What I'm telling you is that ZIRP never left the building. The 2% *real* yield is not a real as you might think.

Should have bought more SOXL. Sold 100 calls and only have 30 for this Friday. Life is good today! I always want to buy the fuck more but I never do. Why am I such a pussy

>>56969999
>quads
I love my online degenerate gambling friends too. Real smigger talk

>>56970026
All you had to do was buy more. Why didn't you listen. You thought I was joking when I said buy SOXL every month.

>>56970057
I am buying SOXL every month. Shares... I'm talking calls, I always buy weeklies but never enough

>>56970057
But I mean, how do I buy soxl? Do I just buy the ticket and then sell when it goes up ad get 3x my return? Explain like I'm a drooling retard pl0x

>>56969954
I'm sorry, were we talking about going all-in at the very top when coofing chinks were wandering into NYC? Or when the Fed said "eh, maybe ZIRP with 9% CPI is a bad idea"?

Or maybe we were talking about a worst case buy-and-hold through those things like the most NPC of NPCs?

I'm bearish.

Bear here. I need recommendations for stocks to short, what is your favourite stock right now?

>>56970034
We wouldn't even have a market except without retards around the world throwing money into this degen pit.

>>56970085
Yes

Doesn’t spy look fucking ridiculous on the macro chart? It looks fucking stupid

>>56970114
holy fucking mooseknuckle, is this real??

>SOXX is 1.18% behind its ATH
>SOXL is 62.17% behind its ATH
KEEP BUYING THIS LEVERAGED ETF GOYM

>>56970101
NIGGER IF YOU GOT A CRYSTAL BALL TO TIME PERFECT ENTRIES FOR EVERYTHING JUST DAY TRADE 0DTE OPTIONS AND BECOME A TRILLIONAIRE IN A MONTH

>>56970114
BABA's a money printer. On the short side.

>>56970114
Why is his penis so small? You can only see the balls and like no shaft

>>56970115
Daily reminder that Max Payne anon was right about there being more of us retards out there so we win by default. Fuck the world.

>>56970139
>Perfect entries
Nigga, I'm talking about blind DCA here. And the performance gets crazy good if you sidestep the two most obvious landmines of the past decade.

This ain't reading treasury refunding announcements.

>>56969999
I fucking hate this shit. Checked,

>>56970114
Damn what a toe. Beautiful.

>>56970139
SOXL could easily do a 62 percent gap up tommorow since inflation doesn't matter anymore and we're pricing in rate cuts

>>56970159
>MFW I see a Lizpost

>>56970003
>on the year
literally cherry picking the bottom. If SPY is up 22% then without decay UPRO would be up 1.22^3 = +81.6%. It remains that if SPY doesn't gain a steady 7%/year then you'll be worse off with UPRO.

>>56970178
She's cute.

>>56970121
I don't think so. When we look back basically the bear market will be said to have been roughly what I marked out the first 3 quarters of 2022. 280 days, in line with median bear markets, a reasonable -25%. Obviously bear market does not equal recession.

>>56970156
the gains are EXACTLY 3x the index, they are not insane, the losse are also EXACTLY 3x the index
DAILY 3x
EVERY DAY your leveraged ETF enters a position for 3x bull or bear
EVERY DAY SPX goes down 1% your leveraged etf goes down 3%
100% - 3% =/= 97% + 3%, maybe you will understand the problem with leveraged ETFs with this very simple math

>>56970174
my nigger that is literally not how the math works, SOXL needs to do a 120% pump from its current price for that to happen
that means SOXX will pump 40% in a day, it will never happen

Another day. Another day of "nothing". PFE was on sale. 52w lows. Sporting a 6% yield and decent sized payout (0.41). Who could ignore such blatant gift? Not me.. Even though I didn't need it. Still a fat divvy is a fat divvy. Especially when it don't cost much out of pocket.

did the fed unironically achieve the soft landing?

>US consumers are spending at record levels, and economists are mystified, struggling to forecast an end point, per BBC

Bros is this the fabled 'doom spending' I've heard so much about? Could everything be that fucked right now economically?

>>56970199
>macro
>shows less than five years
ZOOM OUT

>>56970213
this is a lot of midwit tier nonsense that belongs in the bear market

>>56970191
I'm glad they learned enough from units #1 and #2 not to mindbreak the third from the batch.

>>56970224
Biden achieved the soft landing. I can't wait for 4 more years of Biden bull market! We did it 4chan we beat Putins price inflation

>>56970224
If you don't care about the inflation aftereffects, sure.

>>56970186
>>56970213
Anons, if the S&P stagnates or declines for more than a year, it's over. The Federal government will collapse.

They'll print like hell to keep that from ever happening. We're not in a situation where Volcker 2 will wrestle things down to some kind of fair value. Not even close.

>>56970249
>Bobos have Biden derangement syndrome

>>56970226
It makes a lot of sense to spend money now if you're worried about inflation in the future.
Most Americans are not thrilled about the future of the economy, and that boils down to feeling like their money do less for them.
If that's what one perceives to be the future, then the answer is to buy what you want NOW so you "save" money by not spending more for the same thing in the future.

>>56970219
Do you just buy the most retarded shit possible and then bank on your pension saving you from dumb decisions?

>>56970224
Core inflation is still in the 3.5%, 4%, 4.5% range depending on your metric. So no, no landing has been achieved.

>Dow crossed 37k for the first time ever

The Fed can get the Dow to 40k if they wanted. There really is no limit. But in the process of devaluing the $USD, you'll pay $25 for a Mcdonalds happy meal and that 99 cent can of cambells soup will cost $9.99. But otherwise, yay, new ATH

>>56970226
Yes. Just a lot don't know it yet. All that credit debt racking up, home loans,etc Sooner or later the average sheep's monthly budget will explode under the pressure. AKA - Doomed. Cause the money won't be there to cover it all.

>>56970273
So? McDonald's is for niggers anyway.

>>56970230
Oh shit I see it now

On yahoo finance how do you see the go/no go indicators?

>>56969788
I think china has it bad for the near future but probably very good in the long run, what are your thoughts on this?

>>56969954
>SOXL 198% YTD
>NVDA 235% YTD

I am all in on UVXY for tomorrow, thoughts?

>>56970273
Cope bobo go buy more puts

>>56970265
I bought a $5000 gaming pc with a asus rog strix 4090 oc, asrock taichi x670e, be quiet dark power pro 1600w titanium psu and a ryzen 7950x3D with 64gb ddr5 ram.

Why? Because I got a real bad fucking feeling that the tech markets will shit down in 2024 and electronics in general are gonna be nonexistent when normies keep buying everything as rate cuts deflate the entire supply chain. So I can get that part of "buy now or regret later" idea.

>>56970273
>Dow crossed 37k for the first time ever
The Dow/Nasdaq ratio is as dire as ever. In fact, as dire as... 2000 peak Nasdaq...

>>56969954

>>56970273
Hell yeah we out here preserving our wealth!

I made over $50k in the last month on SAVA.

Just thought all you faggots should know.

>>56970315
Nah China is shit in the long run. Xi is going to get killed by the side of the party that literally hates his guts that he is so desperately trying to keep in check. People unfamiliar with Chinese politics or have never been to mainland China don't have a clue and sip the kool aid propaganda.

>>56970186
okay now do SSO

This man walks up and slaps your girls ass, what do you do?

>>56970332
Throw China invading Taiwan into the mix and you might be right.

>>56970333
They're basically the same thing at this point, tech and the rest is bags.

be fearful when others are greedy, be greedy when others are fearful

only bull reason i can see to hold any leveraged etf over the next year is that it is an election year and they are historically good for the market but a dump in summer and the market recovering to +2% gains is a green year which keeps with the statistic but the leveraged etf will get demolished

>>56970316
>let me zoom in on a single year while people are being told to hold the leveraged etf for several years
unironically literal nigger tier
if you want a stupid performer check out CVNA YTD you nigger, doesnt affect how stupid it is to hold a leveraged etf for several years

>>56970334
google does not have accurate enough data, see attached

>>56970397
Short his life with my 9mm hollow point puts

>>56970311
find where it says 'try the new yahoo finance' on the normal homepage and go there, there are technicals and go/nogo is one of them

>>56970213
Couldn’t you make the same argument comparing a 0.5x leverage with 1x leverage? You could say that 1x leverage has volatility decay compared to 0.5

>>56970419
>be gay when others are straight

I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION IF YOU DON'T MIND

>>56970397
Was he wrong.

I need to inverse Rocker asap, what's going on with that guy?

>>56970426
is this better midwitcuck

>>56970430
how good is that indicator?

>>56970452
better, now put up the chart for SOXX, the index which it follows with 3x leverage bull, and compare the two you inbred nigger
maybe if you look at the charts you will realize how fucking retarded you are for the first time in your life

>>56970392
-5.6% in the last year, so you need SPY to gain more than 5.9%/year for SSO to be better.

>>56970465
dunno, but it's competing with the smartest algos in the world. set up an account with a grand and let us know if it works

>>56970441
>be a woman when others will never be a woman

>>56970474
seems reasonable

>>56970450
He was emo posting again about being a failure at life with no aspirations other than the next can of budlight. He will probably be back tomorrow shilling some penny stock once his meds kick in

>>56970470
>you're retarded if you buy something that makes you more money than the underlying because uuuuuuhhhhh I'm a midwit seething retard who thinks he's smart
cope

Anyone else getting high anxiety from stonks? My portforlio says 5% up just today, aren't stonks supposed to be go up only a few % each year???

>tfw we reached my target today
>>53905828
welp. soft landing seems to have been achieved against all odds.
kek.
But I am cautious now. The first reaction is always wrong yada yada you know the deal.
One thing I've learned is that it's when you think you've won when you're most vulnerable.

>>56970450
>Cropping our the sign

Tonybros......we won.

>>56970506
>being this much of a pussy to post that chart to show that SOXX is raping SOXL performance wise
dont worry nigger, i got charts for days

>>56970524
i'm glad that /smg/ has overlooked his bearishness for the last 18 months and just reverted back to his overly bullish calls from years ago. unfortunately tom lee just isn't as fun to post.

>>56970430
Thanks bro

>>56970510
Stocks are starting to behave like crypto as crypto begins to behave like stocks, it's all converging.

China stocks about to pump. Prove me wrong.

So that was it? Everything is back to normal? I can’t believe there wasn’t more fallout and companies collapsing. Just a few overleveraged tech banks.

>>56970470
From the moment I understood the weakness of my unleveraged equities, it disgusted me. I craved the gains and certainty of leverage. I aspired to the purity of the 3x Bull ETF. Your kind cling to your dividends, as though they will not decay and fail you. One day the crude index you call the Shit and Piss 500 will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Leverage is immortal… Even in death I serve the Neon Greenissiah.

In this world...is the destiny of bears controlled by some transcendental entity or law?
Is it like the hand of Jerome hovering above?

At least it is true.
The bobo has no control.
Even over his own shorts.

>>56970578
China has a debt crisis that makes 2008 look like a fucking joke. Shit poor domestic markets with declining foreign exports as they get their lunch eaten by the poos and spics. The Chinese century ended before it even began.

And with that, it's over. Zoomers will never own homes. Birth rates will continue to decline. Browns will continue to flood in as a desperate attempt to prop the numbers up. The rich will get richer. The goyim will sell their kidneys and blood plasma to afford to eat processed vegan ""meat"" slop.

It is so, so over for the youth. Good thing I already bought my house and am not poor!! Hahaha! Have fun zoomies!

>>56970589
COVID was just so the government could refinance their debt. Literally nothing ever happened and it's all fake and gay and now we can go back to 10x leverage at 0% interest and pump and dump scam ipos being listed every week.

Buy TMF

>>56970540
You will never be Guts. You have no insane willpower, you have no Band of the Hawk, you haven't slain evils. You are a gym nerd twisted by daddy issues and trauma into a crude mockery of the strugglers perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back Chads mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your cringe avatarfagging behind closed doors.

Anons are utterly laughing at you. Thousands of shitposts have allowed anons to sniff out LARPers with incredible efficiency. Even roiders who “pass” as Guts look uncanny and unnatural to a natty. Your inserts alone are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a black girl home with you, she’ll die of cringe the moment she hears a second of your trap anime workout mix.

You will never be badass. You wrench out an "intimidating" grin after every poor night of sleep and tell yourself this is going to be just another struggle, but deep inside you feel the cope creeping up like an apostle, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll buy a life-size Dragonslayer replica, do an overhead press, accidentally smash your skull, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a background character is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably of a fodder soldier

>>56970595
would be more fitting when any of the leveraged ETFs shilled here get close to their ATH, till then its bagholders posting that they are now 60% down instead of 62%
DJI ATH
NDX ATH
SPX ATH tomorrow

>dow hits new ath of 37090
Lmao imagine being a bear in 2023. Let alone 2024.

>>56970612
think we'll get a pullback on this one soon?
fill that gap at 43 mayb

I’m officially down 50% on my SQQQ play
Holy shit how wrong I was. Who would have guessed high rates are great for Facebook and Netflix

>>56970611
Basado. Can’t wait to eat kidney pie.

>>56970630
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>>56970625
>you will never be Guts
What kind of person would want to be Guts? That would suck.

Would you say it's better to do options spreads or just straight up calls or puts?

>>56970602
Kek. This is what amerilards believe. Ok. Enjoy your diversity. Keep clinging on to that while every one kneels to blm. The white century of humiliation has started.

>>56970651
incel posters of /fit/, they have a major gay boner for berserk

>>56970654
You'll be eating more than cats and dogs when your economy explodes, Zhang. You'll be eating your neighbors.

>>56970602
Yes anon China definitely is not scaling its military power, economies alliances etc into an unstoppable behemoth that directly owns the US.

>>56970640
I'm down 75% on TMF, it's okay pal

>>56970654
>Have no babies
>Tiny peepee
>All women would rather die alone if the can't get bleached
>All the chink men spend their whole life trying to scam each other

China #1

Joe Biden is an illegitimate president and everyone knows it.

>>56969521
ZOMG EVERYTHING IN THE FOMC IS IDENTICAL!!! ILL TAKE 40,000 SHARES OF S&P

I should have bought more when the market was lower. Is it too late for me?

>>56970665
I love Berserk. I’m a total fanboy.
The author clearly intended to show that you shouldn’t be like Guts. That you should move on and not focus on the past. That dreams are not everything and that friends, family, and having a good time is.
Just like Bobo should try to move on from the absolute HEEMING he received today.

>>56970366
I made 5 mil

>>56970685
And he'll be your illegiimate president for four more years, chud.

$llap bros how are you doing? Please tell me you didn’t sell monday

>>56970683
>>56970671
Mhmm. We are 7 years into the white century/millennia of humiliation. This time, whites might never rise back up. Neighbours? Lol. Your kind is getting shot by your neighbours. There was a no whites allowed party in nyc or sth today. Chii lai~ u_u chi laiii

>>56970718
Man I was panicing so hard yesterday. Was gonna hold til next year anyways. Was afraid of a delisting.

>>56970683
None of that helps you during your white century of humiliation. Lol. Kurraaaa. Poo in parliament. Poo as vp. Only in the west. We allow white Americans to larp as white even though Brit’s never larped as Americans or whites. The American empire has left no culture behind. All has been wiped. But brit culture will be around. You white Americans can larp as Brit’s. We will allow that. Don’t be late for Chinese grammar class tomorrow. 9:00 am sharp. Chi lai.

>>56970683
We will allow Americans to larp as French if they want. Lol.

>>56970718
llap anon healing, based
their CEO said that the company is not actually for sale so there is some fuckery going on from someone

Now that we have decided that interest rates are definitively reversing, this means BTI will rocket up 20% and I will make back my oil losses right?

Congratulations on reaching the generational bottom. We are never going down ever again.
btw hope you bought when rates were high because we'll also never see prices below what we see today when rates go lower and people can obtain cheaper debt.

Is this a suckers rally? All articles are talking about fed cutting rates next year but Jerome said nothing of the sort. Are they doing a pump to unload their bags on me? Or are we finally recooovering?

>unintentional inflation theme
haha yes!

>>56970756
>>56970719
>>56970766
My white family and most of my friends have gone from liberal and loving to openly racist in a period of 4 years. This is mostly a self defense mechanism since all other races are being manipulated by Jews into hating us. Useful idiots, etc.

>>56970798
fugg this was meant for /g/

>>56970678
All on the back of a debt bubble that again makes 2008 look like a fucking joke. Thanks for proving my point.

>>56970683
Lol. Talking like an African American when getting owned. You just admitted defeat. The white century of humiliation confirmed. Muh dick. What’s your street name? Lil o’kneel? Lil kneel? Da kneelord?

>>56970797

>>56970654
>China about to have a major economic crash over the decade of lies and having their labor be more expensive than other nations
>Oh yeah well did you know there are trannies and brown people in America
Pathetic

>>56970719
>white century/millennia of humiliation
WTF how fucking many Chinese post here?

>>56970797
rate cuts are bearish but people think they're bullish so saying there's going to be cuts when there isn't is doubly bullish

>>56970808
Buddy wake up the bubble already burst. Property developers are at 2009 levels down 80%. Chill the fuck out. Chinks will print to solve "the debt problem". They're still the largest manufacturing hub.

>>56970804
Only a few races actually hate whites. But it’s just dumb to bother with China is collapsing shit and to deny that the west is going into decline and turning into something else.

>soft landing

>>56970819
How did they get 3 cuts in 2024 out of that?

Oh my god I can't wait until Trump rips these insufferable glowniggers a new asshole.

>>56970876
>Implying Drumpf isn't working for the glowniggers.
Disgusting voter.

>>56970863
Only dumb fucking mumus keep falling for this

>>56970840
Printing your way out only worked for America because other countries hold their debts in our currency so the global market for trade always has a demand for USD. Nobody wants Yuan. Also China is experiencing deflation somehow even with all their debt spending. Supremely fucked. The real estate crisis hasn't really hit yet.

>>56970863
>there can be another 8 years of bull run
thanks for the info anon, very cool

>>56970894
>always had*

>>56970840
Yeah and their manufacturing with an ever increasing rise in cost to their labor and pumping toxic debt to keep dying manufacturing a float since before 2016. What do you retards not get their strength was their cheap labor force and the fact they were able to be part of the world trade organization despite breaking every rule they abide by and stealing intellectual property. They no longer have cheap labor as an edge, face a population declination, and are terrible at innovation while having not built a proper service sector of their economy to grow their own stable consumer base as is required for all economies transitioning from developing to a stable and prosperous developed economy. You guys are willfully blind to the house of cards built by the beauracrats in the CCP that they use to rob their fellow country men, who they refer to as pigs in the first place, blind. Rooting for China is beyond all things possible such a cucked strategy.

>>56970910
What are they using now instead?
>Inb4 you tell me some currency that is backed by USD because you're fucking retarded.

I need tomorrow to be a red day so it'll be green, thank me later

>>56970923
Thank you for your sacrifice
IBKR had a display bug for one of my ASX holdings so I thought for a moment I was down $1.5k but am actually up $100

>>56970894
Ok. So China collapsing?

>>56970920
China isn't buying treasuries, it's dumping them. Japan is about to dump them to save it's currency.
No one else really cares.

>>56970894
Implying a weaker RMB is somehow bad for Chink companies. It makes their exports more competitive.
>Also China is experiencing deflation somehow even with all their debt spending.
Wouldn't put too much faith on government numbers. It was mostly due to a fall in pork prices but then again don't give a shit about government numbers.
>The real estate crisis hasn't really hit yet.
The real estate crisis is closer to ending than anything else. You see the bankruptcies the property developers are at down 80%. Brokers that closed shop in HK at record high. All the signs are there. the CCP let it unfold but they're starting to realize they need to step in.

/smg/ is probably one of the most shilled threads on 4chan now. Go fuck yourself, government drones.

>>56970911
Sounds like you’re describing the USA lol.

>>56970943
It did that for me earlier where SPY dropped 5 dollars but it was fake, weirdly enough it showed a candle for it and shows it reached that low

>>56970958
>>56970964
two more weeks

>>56970870
They didn't, they were priced in long before.
And don't worry about rate cuts that are months out. Far-off rate pricings do change all the time.
There will be no rate cuts in 2024.
Even after there's an all out crash in March 2024.

>>56970911
Labor is still pretty cheap in China considering It's a developed country, and there's no one competitor to replace it maybe India or South East Asia but they still lack in development not to mention the Chinks Invest in South East Asia aggressively.

>>56970611
Remember when Powell said in a testimony in front of a Senate committee that zoomers just have to be patient?
That was last year and his tone is a lot different now. It's like he forgot.

>>56970959
You are still dodging the question. What are they using instead? Tell me the currency so I can laugh at you when it's still pegged to the USD.

>>56970958
>Collapse
Has Venezuela collapsed? Cuba? North Korea? Iran? Argentina? Zimbabwe? Countries don't "collapse". They just fall to economic shit over night.

>>56970967
You are a fucking retard but this all China cucks do
>but muh muh muh USA
Bro the whole global economy is fake and gay but you chose the gayest and fakest one to get cucked by, LMAO

>>56970964
I never said the rmb was weak. In fact I literally said they're suffering deflation which is like you said, bad for their labor.

>buy Utes
>make fortune

it was that easy

>>56971004
man that pic related looks like a good time

At this pace we're heading for 50 PE S&P

Is there any end to the madness?

>>56971023
You said they can't print their way out because no one wants to hold their currency I'm arguing that they can print their way out and make their exports more competitive in the process.

>>56971032
with inflation it is only a matter of time before it is 10 P/E so don't worry about it

>>56971019
How can you that while kneeling?

>>56971032
You're witnessing a hyperinflationary market crash. The official inflation numbers are fake.

>>56971032
It's actually insane... It's going to end badly. Idk when though.

>>56971023
Imagine thinking an all Chinese government is less competent than a mutt government.

>>56971051
So this is the so called "Crack up boom"?

>>56971039
They're printing a mountain of cash and spending it all on infrastructure that's not getting used wracking up mountains of debt. They've got negative cash flow (deflation) because of this. If they manage to print enough to get inflation they'll have a debt so big they'd crash their economy. If they stop spending on infrastructure they'd also crash their economy.

>>56971046
>How can you that while kneeling?
How can you English Chang?

>>56971058
The great leap forward was all Chinese. Tell me again how killing all the sparrows worked out.

>>56970540
because its irrelevant when I already proved SOXL is the better investment choice long term you're just trying to move goal poasts and kvetch in the most jewish way possible

>>56971032
is SP500 earns $300 and trades at 20x that 6,000.

so thats not really a big deal.

This permamumu gook being right for once is the top signal you needed

>>56971007
Countries are starting to trade in their own currencies. It's not going to happen all at once like you want me to say but it is happening.
Even currencies that are pegged to the USD now like the yuan are not going to be in the near future.

>>56971027
It is really fun to feed your obese woman MCD.

>>56971067
Tell me how western countries are doing. Lmfao. Majority cities government hold “no whites allowed” Xmas parties. U talkin bout chyna while kneeling. Lol.

>>56971073
>Their own
Sounds like a nightmare of forex and precluding countries with shit currency from any kind of foreign trade. Why the fuck would I accept Venezuelan currency in a trade if I know it's going to drop 10% before I can trade it to something that's not shit?

>>56971067
Idk. How is China today. A country far ahead that is a real country. USA isn’t a country anymore. It doesn’t even have a southern border.

I'll ask this: do mumus have a single counterargument to the yield curve re-steepening that isn't "lalalala I can't hear you!"?
I know none of you have one so don't reply, that was rhetorical.

>>56971081
>Chinese are super competent!
>China numbah wun
>Great leap forward? What about the fact that Brown people exist
Checkmate I guess

>>56971032
I was bullish at the start of the year but anytime the cnbc crowd gets this horny and declares victory, it all just rubs me the wrong way.
I dunno it's like we can't stop anymore anon. It literally has to keep going up at any cost.

>>56971068
>soxl is a better investment long term
>soxl still 60% down from 2022 while soxx is about to hit new ath
it is not possible to cope harder than you nigger, congratz
maybe in another 10 years soxl will be worth 5 and then it will be "easy 10-100x guys"

>>56971073
Tom Lee? That drummer from Motley Crew?

>>56971073
JP Morgan has the same price target for next year. Are they clued into the crab?

>>56971067
You’re stuck in the past. USA is finished. It’s already usa 2.0 at best.

>>56971095
I'm real jealous

>>56971032
it's actually not as awful as it's been in the past, surprisingly

>>56971089
>Venezuelan
>reaches immediately for some basketcase outlier like Venezuela
This is how I can tell your understanding of the subject is weak af

>>56971063
These pro China retards aren't worth arguing with. They don't understand China has been keeping dying manufacturing alive in China with toxic debt for over a decade now without making any meaningful change to fix it. This was all a fucking scam for a few CCP party families to get rich off the literal blood sweat and tears of chink plebs who they are going to throw under the bus along with Xi when they replace party leader with the new face for China.

SOFT LANDING BROS
WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT

>>56971109
Still not an answer

>>56971105
and still outperforming SOXX long term now quit being an autistic midwit niggerfaggot

>>56971102
>It literally has to keep going up at any cost.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA1

>>56971107
I miss goblina posting
That was when /smg/ peaked unironically
>>56971108
>believing the gigakike bank
Dimon has been saying there's a massive crash fwiw

Everyone calm down, calm down.
This is a Polish-friendly, sister-fucking board, okay?

>>56971101
If you aren’t late for chinese class tomorrow, I will let u have a chocolate.

>>56971117
unironically though, we are going to rally until Q4 24
they need biden to win

>>56971111
We weren't even that overvalued in 2008 and we still nuked.

It's kind of crazy how it just does nothing but going up, even looking at Qqq and spy after hours, they just slowly climb up

>>56971125
I don't know why you'd complain. You're here. You know how to preserve your purchasing power. Yeah, number go up and so does your bills, but you keep pace.

>>56971113
Because they've got the worst inflation in the world. How about turkey at 40%? Do they just get fucked because nobody wants to touch the lira with a 40ft pole?

/smg/ sentiment is kinda hilariously dismissive of the possibility of a crash rn, this is toppish sentiment, if you've been at this a while you know what comes next.

>>56971136
Look at yields, look at DXY. It's all connected. Nothing really changing except trust in the US dollar.

>>56971143
You're using outliers to prove your dumb assertion lol stfu little bitch boy

>>56971111
Yeah nah that looks terrifying as fuck considering we're going into a year with very high probability of recession. At current prices market is literally "here's all the risk with no upside".

is everyone here just options-trading degens or are there some buy-low-sell-high boomers around? I've always been too afraid to dabble in options cause idk what the fuck I'm doing half the time

It's literally over tomorrow, isn't it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byv2bKekeWQ

>>56971123
>outperforming long term
>soxl is back to its 2020 prices while soxx is reaching new ath
cope more, nigger
you are still down 60%
for SOXL to reach its highs SOXX needs to pump 40% straight without a single red day and then you'd just be back to 2022 prices while we are in 2024, lagging 2 years again

>>56971144
Let me guess, you heard JPM talk about how much cash they're holding in preparation so they can buy cheapies?
Don't you know not to listen to those fags, it's all lies, who the fuck do you think is bidding everything up right now.

>>56971116
>They don't understand China has been keeping dying manufacturing alive in China with toxic debt
Say what you want they're still the largest exporter in the world.
>>56971130
Based.

>>56971131
我不要巧克力五毛

>>56971144
Fuck off fag, we are GODS at this point. The sleigh bells are ringing and no one can stop this Santa rally.

>>56971160
No. I dislike options because I can't never stomach the premium no matter if I am on the buying or selling side. Always feel like I am getting screwed.

>>56971167
I said in a different post that JPM are gigakikes. I know what they're doing.
>>56971129 let the mumus FAFO

>>56971166
I don't even hold SOXL I just swing calls and it is outpreforming SOXX long term and will outpreform SOXX again, get your nigger ass back to r/investing

>>56969521
Well, what did you buy during the dip? The last year has been great for youths to get in the market. How well will your investments do when rates go down to 3.50% - 4.00%?

30 calls left for Friday, up 1400% kek, what the fuck can I buy now?? Just Tqqq shares?

The bull thesis is so weak. When the pitch is "yeah the market is historically overvalued and yeah we may have a recession but on the bright side maybe it goes back to covid or tech bubble mania of bubble and we make a quick buck?" stay the fuck out

>>56971139
I don't like how it turns into a greater fools game when you're "forced" to hold stocks at 35-40 P/E because the market is going higher.

>>56971170
>being the biggest exporter of an overhwelming amount of cheap garbage people could do without gives you power

>>56971153
The point is that the world uses USD because we're the only currency that can sustain printing at the scale we do without ass on head retarded levels of inflation so you can be certain that the debt you are owed will maintain that value in 6 months when payments come through. It makes you seethe but you still haven't mentioned what other countries would use. Where does turkey fit in? They just starve to death?

>>56971176
Now extreme hubris too. Denounce the Talmud, kike.

>>56971191
>>56971191
>>56971191
>>56971191

>>56971130
>tfw I have two sisters and most smiggers don't even have one
Based. You guys will never know what it's like.

>>56971196
These are low IQ YouTuber takes, stfu and sit down bitch boy

>>56971184
>Dimon has been saying there's a massive crash fwiw
Look in 2008, none of these faggotrons were warning you about impending doom.
They never do.

>>56971195
And yet their exports keep growing. I guess people actually find use for their "cheap chink garbage".

>>56971207
No argument? Cool.

>>56971207
Have fun seething. China will never be number one. Get fucked.
See you in the next thread 五毛

>>56971193
I wish it weren't this way either. I wish FA and fundamentals in general mattered. However, here we are. Be happy you know what to do to survive and help those you care about do the same.

>>56971225
I agree, fuck China. The fact that you mark me as a chink lover shows how badly you've read me. You're going to find you're wrong about a great many things, bitch boy.

>>56970332
>7950x
>4090
>1600w psu
running your psu at <50% load is bad retard
holy retard

>>56971144
checked, le ebin crash for sure now
haha jk
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>>56971111
Bullish digits

There's no soft landing because there is no plane in the air.
In fact, no plane ever took off.