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NATGAS AND OIL
>NATGAS AND OIL
NATGAS AND OIL

Bros I just realized the higher mag 7 goes the lower my quality of life gets. How do I profit

>futures
Asleep until Sunday

I am officially shorting SAVE what am I in for?

I want to FUCK that ShiftPixy.

>>56917988
If you're holding until the decision, like 20% odds of gloating, 80% of heeming.

If you didn't go to the gym today you aren't ever going to make it. There are more millionaires than fit people in America. All of your gains are going to be for nothing and spent on healthcare bills and your wife divorce raping you because you are a gross slob that can't get an erection

At what net worth will women provide me access to their genitalia?

>>56918055
literally negative net worth. They don't care.

Bros I can’t get a job I’m gonna need to change my religion to be considered by palantir they only hiring one

>>56917979
Sounds like he was a veteran. The day drinking is a bad sign, not sure why he'd be upset about you bringing people over, unless you just showed up with them and didn't let him know ahead of time. I know other vets that collect or modify guns, nothing out of the ordinary there. If anything, seeing how trooned out the military is now, I'm sure a lot of vets are depressed.

>>56917988
What's your position? I closed my short today. The longer term charts still look good, my calls are still decent.

>>56918010
Nah, it's literally the opposite of that. Anon posted stats in a previous thread.

>>56917925
Newfag to stocks here.
Ive just been copy trading Cathie Wood this whole year and im up over 300%. is it really this easy?

>Friday night
What can I get you, anon?

>>56918092
Its all fun and games until you buy AQB for $12 a share

happy Friday, bros

>>56918112
Did Cathie Wood do that?

>>56918055
Yeah these days women are more sluttish than ever. The concept of "dating" is dead. Now its swipe,swipe,swipe on a dating app followed by "hey wanna hook up and fuck?". Then the next day; swipe,swipe,swipe "hey wanna fuck?". You get the point.

>>56918082
He and I were both Army veterans and I thought we could bond over that. He worked a desk job in the Army and larped like he had PTSD or something. I straight up tried to put him on free pussy (friends of the girl I was dating when I lived with him) and he turned it down. He has the whole MGTOW mass shooter energy so I wasn't really comfy with him drinking liquor literally every day and just hoarding guns.

The military is massive. Millions of people. It's very hard to classify any single personality traits. I've seen geniuses and crayon eaters. The most honorable men on earth and pedophiles. They all are in the same uniform and people try to put them in the same box

should i start smoking cigars instead of vaping? vaping is a nigger activity but im addicted to nicotine

>>56918093
Kek, me and the wife are watching that show now. Much better than what passes for tv now.

>>56918134
She bought at like $10 per share before the 1/20 reverse split but yes

I'm going to bed. Listen to my wife's new song. Any negative feedback will be met with portfolio losses. Just an FYI.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=LB-BiUb4Z3U&si=yJz2HbrBTgZZzqid

>>56918061
what do they care about? my ex asked me to marry her but still ended up cheating, fucked me up for years

>>56918146
if that is true of vaping, what is addiction, then?

>>56918142
Women were always hoes. Nothing is different except the incels that used to have to work themselves to death in the fields or die in war get to sit at home jerking off to porn now instead of trying to improve themselves physically

>>56918144
Yeah I've got a buddy who went in the air force. He retired not long ago. 20 years. He started out working on the big cargo planes. Then he moved up in rank and responsibility. He was an instructor at the point he retired.

>>56918179
Physical attraction just like men. Trying to impress them with money is the most beta shit ever. There are planet fitness trainers making $12/hr that get more ass than millionaires without even trying

>>56918179
I will have to ask my piece of shit brothers and get back to you on that.
But I can assure you that living knee deep in your own filth, not showering, and not having any money are not turn offs. You just have to be hot or "interesting". Take pictures of yourself doing shit and post them online. Preferably with other people. It will go a long way towards women not thinking you are a serial killer.

>>56918233
I had a girlfriend that said my balls tasted like onions when he sucked my dick after work

>>56918082
>Nah, it's literally the opposite of that. Anon posted stats in a previous thread.
Those stats were for success. >>56917988 said he's shorting SAVE so Morgan_Freeman_good_luck.gif

>>56918179
Well it's not just money or what you drive or how you dress. Another friend of mine in his younger years was a bum. Constantly broke, did drugs, he drove pieces of shat cars (which in the case of one was in good shape when he first got it). But for all that he got pussy like crack. Different girl every week. How do I know? Cause I lived with him along with 2 other friends in the same house in my early 20s.

>>56918062
Becoming a Jew just to get hired at a lucrative job sounds... extremely Jewish. And, therefore, not deceptive.

>>56918259
lmao that's so good

>>56918276
Ah, yes, you are correct.
Fucking captcha has been acting like shit for the last week. Anyone else experiencing that?

>>56918092
Yup, TARK and chill.

So long as the Fed doesn't drop the ball on rate cuts at the meeting next week.

>>56918093
I might be addicted to cognac now. Been thinking about drinking a cuppa Henny all day. Looking up for LVMH.

It's Friday night, only the need OGs are here post your best tips / upcoming plays.
I bought AVAV recently and it's done great. Missed selling a top and buying back lower which sucks. Think it'll chill for a bit and continue to pop.

>>56918329
How's it stack up against KTOS? Where do you see it in a quarter or a year?

>>56918259
That last bit is great. AI is usually really shit at landing a good finish.

Fed will increase QT soon.

>>56918062
>>56918303

Being a Jew is like being a Mason. You can't join unless you get invited

>>56918329
100% TMF portfolio for 2024 seriously might be my play. Even Powell said it's over.

>>56918181
>>56918194
>>56918206
>>56918216
>>56918225
>>56918238

>>56918181
>>56918194
>>56918206
>>56918216
>>56918238
we did it reddit!

>>56918062
>change religion
it's a blood curse buddy, it doesn't work like that

>>56918426

>>56918450

>>56917925
What are some good options calculators for puts or shorts?

>>56918093
Something strong to cope with the loss of PoemAnon.

>>56918576
I want something that is visual where I can move the strike price around at different time frames and see the greeks move with it. Anything like that?
Pretty new to options, but I've learned the greeks are pretty important based on some of the trades I've made.
Or a way to see price action for the greeks on trades live with different closing contracts?

can't even watch this episode of goblin slayer
it is so bad

>>56918608
the greeks dont mean shit when options are just a shell game. its entirely directional based. if the options underlying isnt moving favorably you are losing money. premium just rapes you if you dont guess correctly. straight up gambling with leverage.

>>56918657
They mean a lot, entry and exit should be based off of them from what I've seen with my own options I've been playing with.

>>56918337
KTOS looks interesting, I need to look into them.
For AVAV, frankly I don't know how high I think it will go. I found it simply by thinking that drone warfare and policing is only getting started and they are apparently the top provider of drones to the DoD or Pentagon (I forget which but should know). My mindset is usually of whoever is on top now will grow most, first mover and all that. Will check out KTOS though.

>>56918609
fucking fanservice episode and nobody can draw

>>56918036
Alright I'm eating some carbs and will start soon.

>>56918733
Upon further thought, I know absolutely nothing about good buys in the drone market.
Please disregard my previous comments.

>>56918576
>>56918608
Right there in the OP: https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com/

>>56918608
>>56918817
Correction: for Greeks, I've found the best source (aside from having a real broker) is Barchart. Requires a free account I think but it's worth it: https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/SPY/volatility-greeks?expiration=2023-12-11-w

>>56918798
>>56918733
Hey, that's about my level of knowledge too. A good starting point might be the investor presentations for each company. Reading/listening to the earnings call is also good because you get a sense of what management pays attention to and what analysts do.

>>56918834
Thanks anon, I'll take a look. I just find a lot of typical ones with the profit curve as inadequate. I'd like to compare multiple strats at once and basically see a paper trade of it going forward, rather than backtesting shit to death and hoping for the best. Basically just want to save some time and make decisions faster.

let's see last time around this year they were all bearish right?

Finally a nigger I'm slightly richer than. My trading account feels snuggly knowing I'm doing better than some nigger celebrity.

>>56918936
>soft landing

Anyone use thinkscripts?

>>56918990
I'm hoping the market is more like this for the rest of the month and 2024.

>>56918944
>He thinks black people keep their money in places that are taxed and tracked like the bank instead of drugs and guns

Lmao. I've met so many black people that have multiple overdrafted checking accounts and just don't use the white mans system anymore

>>56919011
impressive bird

Im a strong, independent woman who does not need a man.

>>56919045
The fuck is that supposed to mean?! He is in fucking jail for being meth head and threatening his brother. You telling me this niggee is pulling a Sam Bankmanfreid in jail and has over 2000 sardines under his mattress he is accumulating and trading?

>>56919074
>the deenz posters were niggers all along
Kippered Snacks confirmed as the better of the two.

loading up on buy orders for XOM on monday

>>56919074
>Expecting me to know some who the fuck is that rapper is in jail

But yes his crew has all his dope and guns right now probably and they visit their homies that are in jail and they give them money for commissary or smuggle drugs/cellphones/needles into prison

>>56919121
You liar no one fucks with this nigger, he is some ex kid disney star meth head who is probably gay. You don't know shit homie

>be on time
>pay attention
can anyone tell me the next rule?

>>56919221
Profit???

>>56919116
Thesis?

Short WMT. Should lose around 25%-50% from here.

>>56919072
God I hate women so much it's unreal

>>56919238
Only if you work hard when it's time to do so.

The market topped out on July 19th, 2023. We are now coming up against the resistance point where it sharrted the bed. Since we are near the end of the year selloff when companies reshuffle their portfolios, this is likely the range where companies will decide to dump again. We are like 2-3 days from the beginning of a great new dump- a santa dump!

>>56917988
Anal sex with a fat black man.

>>56919261
Based on?

>>56918055
If they didn't give you a pussy feast when you were in college you're probably just never going to make it.

>>56919283
New retarded bobo thesis

>2015
>300 lots EURCHF Long
>doesn't set stop loss because she believes daddy swiss government will protect the rates
It's over for Kurumi
How much are 300 lots again?

>muh 6 cuts

>>56917925
There are anons contributing ITT who have far fewer capital than they had last year.

>>56919297
>>56918317
>fed meeting next 2-3 days
And there it is. The market will go up, hit the resistance and then the media will print stories saying "the fed exists, here's why that's bad" as it just bleeds out for 2 more weeks.

>>56919304
Yes, but I got a plan

>>56917925
is LULU the next CMG?
LULU 480 calls were 1 penny today and went to $13.8 why didnt anything tell me about it

>>56919304
hey, my job provided me plenty of capital

>>56919304
Uniromically i have more capital but also more debt. My plan though is to pay the debt off over time using the bare minimum

>>56919257
line go up

>>56918426
N posting has always been tradition here.
go back

>>56918855
Good food for thought thank you.
I was going to look into their products and who is buying them. See if their selling good things to deep pocketed people, where they have an in.

>>56919415
all boards, no exceptions

>>56919304
Yes, but I'm a lot smarter now.

>>56919304
>fewer capital

>>56919456
>futures

KOLD is the strongest seasonal asset. You can literally just buy that shit every November 3rd and you will always make money.

is it still boring? i started in 2020 and thought it was the norm to be coked up on adrenaline so often but now it feels like im only going to hit +20% every year now

i need another 10x to feel alive...........

>>56919531
Bank collapse this spring, A second October crash and recovery, the MegaCap tech run, and nigga you are bored?

Naughtier the better, profit by gifts bfr

I wish there was a place like this near me. Get a good massage/adjustment and a happy ending..Well if I was single that is, least I'd get the massage/adjustment and a hot girl doing the work at any rate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj6BIbamSzA

>>56919551
im talking a full body adrenaline rush, i havent felt it since 2020 when any idiot like me could catch a 10x blindly

this year im a brainlet so i only had one 2x play and it was only a small portion of my portfolio so im really only up like maybe +30% or something after a whole fucking year
im starting to hold more index funds so thats also boring, cant put all my money as 6-figs into one play like before, had more adrenaline when i had only 4-figs

I guess no one believes in the Christmas spirit anymore.

AMD gonna 10x prove me wrong

>>56917978
So then mag 7 stocks are a hedge against quality of life decline.

>>56918061
This. I had way more sex before I got my first job.
>>56918179
As best as I can tell they have some weird internal sense of leadership and connection with their culture that they measure men with.
Many also know how the world effectively revolves around their vagina so sometimes they just use that to fuck with everyone/get attention.

$llap chads how’d your week go?

>>56918036
>you are a gross slob that can't get an erection
I have one looking at your pic. Probably gonna jerk soon. Can you post one of your bum in some boxer briefs?

>>56918036
Alright, i went to the gym today

>futures
>>>/wsg/5369108

>>56919008
I tried but never could get it to work. I don't think it works properly on windows 7.

>>56920420
THURSDAY
IT IS DECIDED
ON THURSDAY

>>56920438
Hot dogs!

>>56920407
DON'T RUG US GOYIM
WE ARE THE ONES WHO DO THE RUGGING

>>56920442
All I want is an Asian waifu that loves Costco as much as I do.

If I put like $1000 in nasdaq now will I get $7000 in 10 years

it has a pe of 9 right now so surely it's going back to the peak right? i bought before the peak but didnt sell lol, and averaged down so im breakeven now if you dont count inflation lol

not shilling the ticker sinc it's just a shitty value trap

>Yahoo changed their API
>Can't scrape tickers anymore
Faggots
Absolutely kiked niggersystem
How am I supposed to try to quant now

>>56920420
wtf scholastic is publicly traded?

>>56920595
What is this?

>>56920052
Hah ha ha ha. Ha ha.
I was averaging down for weeks :)
Nice to finally be in the green with almost 10x the shares.
I wonder if it was you who got me into it.
Anyways, let's get that Rivada payment and laugh on the way to the bank.

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

Yields...

>>56920863
Probably was me iv been shilling $llap the last 5 months buying up shares and holding. Gonna hold for a lockheed martin buy out

MSFT 1/12 $400C dropped 30% on a green day, while surrounding dates and strikes went up. Are these worth picking up on Monday, or will they even be there?

>>56921188
the price will change as soon as the market opens.

>>56920420
>>56920438
>THURSDAY
>IT IS DECIDED
>ON THURSDAY
I agree.
Oracle and Adobe the most interesting before that.
Costco and Lennar on Thursday will decide EVERYTHING.

This month has been the most retarded crab I've seen in a long time

>>56920882
Can not believe it has been 20 years already. RIP

>>56921007
They're dropping.

>>56922009
That guy saying buy TMF a few weeks ago was SO right it's actually kind of insane. Bond tags absolutely rekt.

buy more s&p 500

>>56922103
>94%
how is that even possible?

>>56922209
Anything is possible if you lie

>>56922103
Is there ranked list of these companies that have been so well behaved?

>>56922209
Jewish ppl are POC

>>56921171
Lockheed already has made it clear they aren’t buying stop this cope

>>56922302
they still gonna buy components from TO

>>56920076
I'll post one for Christmas anon :)

>>56922264
Jewish people are demons forsaken by God that are powered by foreskins, abortions and human sacrifice.

>>56920249
I'm proud of you anon keep it up. Today is leg day for me

>>56922020
It's almost like it's going to grind up for the next year because the rate hikes are finished

>>56922209
>create a bunch of bullshit jobs where the people you hire don't actually do anything
>fill those positions with niggers
>Your company looks progressive and you don't have to worry about nigger employees driving your business into the dirt
Not really that complicated

>>56919304
>implying I haven't been crabmaxing
My net worth is identical to last year thank you very much.

>>56922593
Sounds Keynesian

>>56922516
Yeah I have a huge bag of TO and expect it to hit $5 by March but to think Lockheed will buy is delusion. The time to buy was last month they will only be more expensive to acquire from now on. It’s obvious they have no intention

>Wall Street Journal reports that Apple is aiming to build more than 50 million iPhones in India annually within the next two to three years, equivalent to a quarter of global iPhone production.
Smug iToddlers are soon going to be the proud owners of pooPhones, now with 4,000,000% more E. coli

>>56922683
I find it strange that people are genuinely weirded out if you don't use an iPhone. I tell people I use an android and they seem confused. Well I get the last laugh now as all those iPhone users will end up with pink eye and hepatitis A.

its already almost 2024. you guys planning out what you are going to do differently next year? was this year a good one?

>>56921171
this company is dogshit and the odds that a defense contractor pays a high enough premium that it makes your time worth it is fairly low.
if you're interested in space though you should start DD on air products and chemicals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Products
elon buys argon for his LEO satellites because of the insane cost of krypton and xenon per kg. starlink actually had to develop a new ion engine to run on it. other operators will follow. the rest of the business i don't know too well yet but selling fuel during a space race is a winning strategy.

>>56922768
Imagine not knowing what LLAP has in the works not buying your shitty fag Elon bags

>>56922719
>People

Anon women aren't people and they just do the iPhone thing to shit test betas. Women have thousands of ways to test men to see if they are incels and/or will sperg out when subtly being bullied.

>>56922772
bot.

>>56922765
I'm moving this week to a comfy "mountain" town in Poland. I'm keeping the same big city job but making it entirely remote and getting one week off per month to do other stuff.

>>56922585
What is the actual mechanism/reasoning for why bond yields will continue to fall, though? Why couldn't the people in charge just fuck retail over some other way if TMF is such an obvious play?

>>56922806
yields follow price and price follows order flow.
the long end is exposed to the real economy. the fed only manipulates the short end. and not with perfect success, either.

>>56922806
>>56922817

Retail thinks you can't make.money in bonds and that you need dogecoin at 500x leverage. TMV was the obvious play in hindsight for years and now it's TMFs turn.

99% chance of multiple interest rate cuts next year and TMF will moon on each or even whispers of one coming.

TMF (or TLT if you are afraid of leverage) will be a nice slam dunk play that goes up no matter what happens outside of a timeline where inflation increases and they have to hike more but I don't really see this being very probable. Even if the markets absolutely break from some reason/happening it should be good for TMF because the fed will reduce interest rates to try to cope with the explosion

>>56922916
>>56922817
So all of this "higher for longer" shit is just complete mainstream trash?

>>56922916
i find no flaw in the thesis
>a timeline where inflation increases and they have to hike more
i would probably put on a position that accounts for a 3-5% chance of this. you want to win big on it to offset the losses on the other side.
>>56922929
the world isn't black and white

>>56922806
>Why couldn't the people in charge just fuck retail over some other way if TMF is such an obvious play?
reflecting on this further, i think you'll find that 85% of the time the investment banking industry is too lazy in the aggregate to do anything other than hype up the names/tickers they have already made their money in.
so keep your head in the phase of the game that is ahead of that curve. watch to see where money is actually headed, not where its been.
one more thing is, don't forget the structure of these 2x and 3x ETFs. if you wait for a catalyst to play out instead, and watch them skyrocket, you can just as easily make all your money on the infinite slide. you just sell call spreads for like a year straight. retail is still somehow not keenly aware of these and so at least with these instruments, investment banks probably just do that. because again, lazy.

>>56922719
>people are genuinely weirded out if you don't use an iPhone.
Most people are impressed I don't use a phone at all.
Android is just an off brand iPhone. It's really stupid.

>>56922929
Don't listen to the media listen to the FED and/or that anon that kept shilling the dot plot or whatever.

If interest rates go down then TMF goes up. Simple as. If we have our "soft landing" then interest rates go down. If we have a happening interest rates go down. If we have a recession interest rates go down. Literally the only timeline where TMF gets assblasted is if inflation is out of control but the narrative right now is that it's steadily being controlled and we are nearing the 2% target.

>>56922929
And to be fair I do believe the FED wasn't lieing about higher for longer. I don't think we will ever see a 0% rate environment again in my lifetime. It's a question of what they want to go down to and how hot they want the markets to run/how soon. Even going back to 4.5% from here would be like a 2x for TMF

>>56923034
I just never thought 5% was "high" in the first place

>>56923002
I don't even know if you can call it off brand. Android phones came out well before the iPhone existed. iPhones are just designed with simpletons in mind which is why most of America loves them.

>>56922794
based. sounds like a good set up.

>>56923004
Good play to watch. I see the best buy in on them was Oct. How heavily would you suggest accumulating at the present prices vs maybe watching for another TLT/TMF relative DIPPARINO? I feel dirty invoosting in something that isn't NATGAS or OIL though.

>>56923076
whether a rate is low or high is always, ultimately, relative to the US fiscal situation.
>>56923004
this except never discount that the fed is fully capable of what will appear to the market as absolutely unhinged insane activity, to wit, turning on QE again through some bullshit "facility" they just make up -- remember PDCF? -- in order to bail out its banks... while leaving the FFR right where it is.
this would drive inflation again as those banks get out from under their record unrealized losses, and it would goose the hike odds and give them plenty to jawbone and dot-plot about, but ultimately they would not deliver a hike soon enough whether they manufacture the inflation or not. they never do.

>>56923092
Yeah more people should do it, mostly as WFH is being rolled back. My "other stuff" makes me money so that makes more sense for me to do it, but honestly I might just go on vacation every other month.

>>56921171
I'm not sure about a LMT buyout but I'm happy the countdown for compliance has begun. We got back to this level with no major news or PR and I got the chance to lower my average to below a dollarydoo.
A lot of upside from this point. Thanks for clueing me in on this one :)

>>56923164
This is about what I am expecting to actually happen, higher for longer. The constant theme straight from Powell over and over and over communicates the fear of easing off the rates too soon and setting the fight back and making things longer term worse. Over and over and over, "we have a long way to go, it might get bumpy", but now the jews are trumpeting "6 cuts, inflation handled". They are probably just trying one last good wave of luring the goyim with the idea that the markets are safe again before THA GREAT HEEM TO COME. Just the last couple of weeks or so there was a huge flow of capital from money market funds back into the markets.

>>56923076
5% is infinitely higher than 0%. Guess it's semantics.

>>56923114
Next fed meeting starts December 12th. I honestly think now is the time to accumulate because it's selling off ahead of the meeting. Of the FED comes out and says everything is looks good then TMF is gonna fucking rip hard as fuck. If they fear monger it will sell off more and I'll just accumulate more. I think Powell is gonna be happy for Christmas though. Make sure to see what color suitcase or tie he wears.

>>56923281

>>56923281
and

>>56920052
I hope this garbage moons so I can triple my 500 bucks

>>56917925
I know what I’m gonna do on the interest rate decision on Wednesday, I’m gonna buy puts and this way overextended market’s going to somehow surge further up completely abandoning the wyckoff distribution model

What can I expect

>>56923362
They're not hiking.

>>56920596
You can use your brokerage's API.
Etrade's is a bitch and half because of the way they do auth though. I might get an account somewhere else just for automation.

>>56923362
He's just going to come out and say higher for longer. We will pump regardless but only like 1-3%...and we will go down by exactly that mon/tues.

also open the fucking market i'm bored already
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1702067320349359.webm

I have 80k in Bitfarms, if I sell 40k on Monday, what do I buy? SSO?

>>56923362
This is some schizo level interpretation of that chart. Unironically zoom out and see how everything is on a decades-long uptrend because the world isn't nearly as bad as bears want it to be.

>>56923515
I doubt the FED plays bad guy until next year. It's Hanukkah right now buddy. Line goes up.

>>56923685
>decades-long uptrend
And at what point over the spread of those decades did it start climbing far above the mean, and how far has it gotten in what amount of that time?

>>56923667
first of all the smart move would be to sell all of it, second, you would either distribute it across your other positions you aren't looking to sell or park it in short-duration CDs, unless your money market fund is already very competitive.

>>56923731
>25% of the money ever created was created in a single year
>Bears don't understand why we had inflation
>Bears expect it to magically go back to how things used to be or get worse

More dollars, dollars worth less, stocks worth more. Really jogs the noggin. Even the 2 digit IQ zoomers that infest this board understand this concept and buy Bitcoin.

The US banking Jews did some top tier magic tricks during COVID. COVID was just an excuse to print away the US debt and roll out the financing at lower interest rates further into the future.

>>56923720
Line will go up but its just going to be a hold with maybe dovish leanings for next year. But yes line go up because line always go up.

>>56923720
Powell is Catholic.

>>56923228
>mostly as WFH is being rolled back. My "other stuff" makes me money so that makes more sense for me to do it, but honestly I might just go on vacation every other month.
based. you made it.

>>56923886
It's called a Shabbos Goy..just like Biden. Don't look behind the curtain.

>>56923228
you from Poland or did you end up moving there?

>>56924038
I moved there to a big city 8 years ago, I'm French. Now I'm moving to a more chill city.

>>56924011
This is just so fucked up on a basic level. Anyone who sees that a majority of the top officials are all part of the same cult but doesn't think they're collaborating to benefit themselves and their fellow Jews over everyone else is retarded.

>>56917925
I NEEED THE MI DECEMBER CORRECTION AHHHHH NASDAQ GO DOWN I COMMAND YOU

>>56924057
Any particular reason for moving there? I've occasionally thought about moving to Poland but have never planned anything concrete.

>>56923090
Regardless, modern Android is very much intended to just be the off brand iPhone.

>>56924104
Lol imagine unironically believing this

>>56924148
Imagine thinking anything on a smartphone isn't designed for apes.

>>56924062
Imagine if every single cabinet member was Chinese.

"To learn who rules over you look at who you aren't allowed to criticize" -George Orwell

>>56923989
Airline M&As and negative share holder return, name a more iconic trio

Another relaxing day. I've done nothing this morning. Just gotta do two things today; flip on the dishwasher and take out the trash. KHC is doing a 6 million worth of shares buyback plan. VZ has already declared the first divvy payment of the new year. Gotta bag more before 1/10 in order to qualify. Already got the date marked on my outlook calendar. Nice tool to do the divvy compounding for you: https://www.tipranks.com/tools/dividend-calculator

>>56924080
living in Berlin and knowing Polish people there + visiting Poland once and liking it + 2015 rapefugee /pol/ memes

>>56918608
I do 0dte, fuck greek shit. You buy slightly ITM on an upswing and then day trade that shit ~10 mins later. Time it right and you double your money.

I'm in the Czech Republic for a few more days, what's the easiest way to get some sloppy toppy?

>>56924070
Not gonna happen. Seen the Fed balance sheet lately? Bond yields? Jobs info? Bears are fucked for real this time

>>56924269
thats a nice sum. particularly if health insurance is going to be 2 grand a month in the future

>>56918834
Why do you like this one?

>>56924359
I signed up for an Obamacare marketplace plan a few weeks ago and I've received no card or bill or even an acknowledgement yet. Right now, I have no idea if I'm going to be insured next year.

>>56924377
>Doing anything with the government ever

You get what you deserve. People like KO boomer are responsible for your life now and he is busy jerking off and eating KFC. Sorry no refunds

suppose you could apply for a 60k student loan for a 36 month long payment due with no interest rates and over that timeframe you could get your hands on 30k that you would thereby invest as well. where would you invest that money?

>>56924551
Seeing as no one's going to give you a $60,000 loan interest free for 3 years straight I think the question is stupid and pointless.

>>56924562
first 3 years are free, it can go up to 10 years and interest starts after the 37 month.. obviously there must be more to it but the webpage is broken and i would have to speak to someone in a physical bank to know the details

>>56924359
Health insurance premiums are insane. Right now I pay for both me and my wife for health/dental/and vision just roughly $361 a month. However once I retire via the same employer as part of my package the costs go up insanely. Provider changes to. They give so much a month to cover the costs then whatever remains comes out of my pension check. Used to be you retired, they covered the costs 100% till you went on govt dime at 65 (medicare). The rub; sick joke, I can get the same provider coverage via govt marketplace for roughly what I pay now a month.

>>56924626
ACA was never designed to be sustainable or fix the problem. It was designed to be handouts to obama's voters and drive the system to collapse so everyone would beg for single payer NHS. And we almost replaced it until John McCain happened.

>>56924551
Tobacco, telecoms and other businesses still getting btfo by high rates but aren't actually dying are probably a good place to be if you think the Fed is going to start reversing interest rates within that time.
Or you can ride Tech even higher I guess.
Or 3 year bonds.
This all assumes you don't have to make any payments as some real shit could happen in 3 years.

>>56924642
More in likely what I'll do is once I retire I'll go and get the govt marketplace plan for both me and my wife. My employer will still give out the monthly health stipend which will cover the costs of it. So my pension will not have to be used to cover any of it. Course if things happen the way I hope they do it'll be a moot point. Supposedly if everything in a report gets passed by the state legislature my salary and thus my pension to will go up roughly 2x from its current amount by 2025.

>>56924700
well, if i could apply for such a loan i would be waiting for my last year in college, which would start in september 2024, shortly before the US elections and perhaps with inflation already having been tamed, i guess i could invest in the SP500 or in the DJ30 for a guarantee of being able to pay of my loan at a profit

what tobacco and telecom companies would you look for? verizion and altria?

>>56924700
REITs are the easiest win of all of those.

>>56924562
The government does this in new zealand actually
All student loans are provided by the state and are interest free for the full term unless you leave the country

what sort of money do you even need to retire in the US? if i could generate some 20k as of now in yearly income, with something with around 1/4 of it for reinvestments, i would be well-off for my entire life

>>56924837
It all depends on where you live, what you plan to do, and what kind of lifestyle you want. Ex: someone living in NY who wants to travel and drive several telsas or a lambo will need a shat pot more than say someone living in NC who just wants to enjoy his simple house and family.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/stocks-bonds-and-real-estate-are-all-bubbles-set-to-pop-and-a-harsh-recession-is-on-the-horizon-elite-investor-jim-rogers-says/ar-AA1lcMlt

>>56924784
>what tobacco and telecom companies would you look for? verizion and altria?
Yes. however for full disclosure I am in BTI
I don't recommend doing business with the british though because they have a tendency to perpetually disappoint. But I can't stay away.

>>56924902
The problem is that we've been saying this for years, mostly the last two years. Eventually it might turn out to be right, but timing matters.

>>56918093
Same thing as always

>>56924916
>didn't read the article and what he himself states
I recoomend that (You) do. He paints the bigger picture breddy gud with great efficiency.

>>56924886
i would probably spend my entire days playing video games and screwing around with chicks once in a blue moon, perhaps get some shit job that i would handle with no pressure so i wouldn't grow bored.

>>56924911
those do pay some nice dividend, but are they good growth material? altria seems to have a rough year and a half despite consistent profits

>>56924916
I hope the fed spontaneously combusts.
The last 4 years were completely unnecessary
Tired of their bullshit and attempts at hail mary saves only for us all to pay for it later

>>56924949
I am not suggesting a growth play. I am suggesting a you aren't going to find jack shit paying out almost 10% except highly distressed debt when fed rates are 3% play.

>>56924902
>Fed please pump my bags

>>56924986
that would be a life objective for if i managed to amass around 100k to 200k in stock investments. but i would never borrow money from a bank to make that gamble

>>56924947
Yeah there is no reason to read it. Its literally just shit that has already been said before 1000 times.

>>56924947
>He paints the bigger picture breddy gud with great efficiency.
tl;dr is >>56925006

>>56918082
>Nah, it's literally the opposite of that. Anon posted stats in a previous thread.
What basis was used to determine stats for SAVE merger passing? Looks to me like it's just a pure gamble based on the whims of the judge?

>>56925023
He says right there that he's not invested in the US at all.
SO MANY NIGGERS HERE.
Verification not required.

>>56925068
No, he says to get held hostage in the Congo

>>56925079
He didn't need to say what we're all taught from birth. Hardly anyone does the needful though. Many such cases. Sad!

>>56925079
>>56925125
Come to think of it, why are there no threads at all on /biz/ advising to get held hostage in the Congo instead of all that nigger tier crypto goombling shit? They must think just saying "WAGMI" enough times is all it takes.

>>56924902
Bottom signal

Fed wants to stop inflation

Administration wants to be re-elected

Yellen wants to cut deficit

Mommy wants steak, Daddy wants lobster and baby wants dessert.

>>56925165
This is a problem that can be solved with a simple oil glut

>>56925165
>Yellen wants to cut deficit
get a load of this guy

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1701191153082591.webm

>>56925181
Hence why Biden is trying to get cozy with Venezuela.
>>56925202
>>56925202
Not sure what math Janet Yellen is using

>>56925215
we'll tackle that deficit, just double taxes.
Simple as

>>56925215
Is this bitch talking about the """inflation reduction act""" which is astronomically expensive tax credit handouts that are actually costing the government trillions, not """saving""" them? I love when fuckwits cut off the dates of twitter screencaps.

PODD. SIGA. STVN. APGE. SAVA. AXSM. BTAI. SAVA.

Shitcos. Bad. Short on every pop.

>>56925215
>$1T over the next ten years
it's increasing $1T every quarter.

>>56925252
What about SKYT?

>>56925266
Was that the dogshit pump and dump that bhenchodes on here like Rocker were shilling? Jej

>>56925252
Nice to see you've come around on CVNA

>>56925273
Nah that was ALPP.

>>56925292
>CVNA
>+ 697.23% past year
I was getting raped by that short and covered, but I still made money since i shorted it from the $300s. It was awful though, losing so many gains.

I'm sure it's a short but I remember the implied bk trade was a BIG failure.

>>56925300
Why was ALPP pumping? Forgot about that whole saga

>>56925346
New paradigm. They paid $6 mil for a failing drone manufacturer, so that meant they should be valued at $600 mil.

>>56917955
Explain?

I'm overweight in big oil stock and wondering whether to sell.

>>56925401
You just have to always hold some NATGAS and OIL not to be a NO NATGAS AND OIL NIGGER. This has absolutely nothing directly to do with financial advice.

MCD's is rolling out a new franchise. Cosmcs. Basically a hyped up starbucks type thing. Drinks mostly. But the real profit lies with the source. Where MCD's gets all that coffee and other drinks.Who benefits in other words. Well a few tickers come to mind; KHC,KO,KDP. KHC does coffee. KO does coffee and drinks, KDP sells the MCD's brand of coffee in stores already. Who already owns shares in all 3? Why I do.

>>56925445
clearly they will source from BRCC

>>56925215
>will reduce
>invest
lmao

>>56925560

This is a Fed meeting week, right? What are we expecting?

>>56925712
does it matter? they could just breathe into the mic and the markets will crab like they always do

>>56925712
more "we aren't raising right now but we are totally willing to hike more we are super cereal guys we haven't reached 2% yet" rhetoric.

>>56925372
anon ive been digging deeper into the ALPP story and ive been howling. this is such a retarfded fucking company with so many pumpers

>>56925712
talk about how much they hate the goyim, the usual

Are there any assets that are negatively correlated with s&p still left? Feels like everything is just consolidating into one single super asset.
And no, the gold hedge is long gone. TLT doesn't interest me either.

>>56925712
NIGGERS AND JEWS
son,
NIGGERS AND JEWS

>>56925252
podd bros..

>>56925802
PODD is insanely overvalued imo, still got juice on the table for shorting after it's come down a lot still.

>>56924626
>Health insurance premiums are insane.
They also decided that just not paying doesn't effect your credit.
You don't have to pay. If you're healthy the only reason for insurance is the tax bullshit.

All in all, it shows that 2.5% core inflation seems to be the threshold of whether stocks and bonds cross over from negative/zero correlation to a positive correlation.

What causes different correlation regimes?

Although there are lots of disputes about what causes the stock-bond correlation, it appears that persistent inflation is a key factor.

All in all, 2.5% core inflation seems to be the threshold of whether stocks and bonds cross over from negative/zero correlation to a positive correlation. With high inflation, stocks and bonds suffer and benefit together, as higher inflation hurts bonds as investors factor in higher interest rates, and equities suffer from pricing uncertainties and cost pressures. In low inflation environments, the discount rate for equities is more stable and it is earnings growth expectations that are at risk.

What does this mean for the next decade?.

It turns out that on average, we can expect some benefit from bonds. However, they are in no way a perfect hedge and historically, there were enough cases where there was "no place to hide."

>>56925760
huh? what kind of question is that
if you want the exact opposite of something just short it or own inverse etfs

>>56925760
I'm buying a 1 year CD every month, and yes, I am finically bored. I do want to play TLT, but I don't know how far out the crash is. My customer base is a lagging indicator, so watching my sales is pointless.

>>56925901
>They also decided that just not paying doesn't effect your credit.
If it's under $500. Which is a single doctor's office visit nowadays.

>>56925907
NO PLACE TO HIDE
>NO PLACE TO HID
NO PLACE TO HIDE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtbz1W4Zu2c

https://genius.com/Steve-earle-and-the-dukes-when-the-people-find-out-lyrics

NIGGERS
AND
JEWS
>FUTURES

>>56925931
idk I haven't needed any medical anything for ten years.

>>56925712
>we're data-driven
>we're not going to cut but we're monitoring
>the economy is still strong
idk, just seems fairly predictable, right now there's not really any reason to change course

>>56925971
The correct phrasing is "Ah, you were right and I was wrong". Not completely ignoring the situation and pretending you never asserted something incorrect. Fucking retard faggot.

Kek my state launched legal sports betting back in September. According to latest data the state took in 8 million from taxes on that. 90% of that money and all money from sports betting goes into the pension fund.

What stock are you most bullish for? And why is it AMD?

>>56925980
I just don't think there's anything they could realistically do that I couldn't do my self that's worth paying the premium for. The whole thing feels like a scam.

>>56925971
Well you may be lucky now but one day your luck may run out. Then the whammy hits. You'll be glad for the insurance. Dental is another whammy type event.

>>56925992
/g/ says their drivers are bad

>>56925992
>p/e ratio
>1000
kek

>>56926020
You've got them confused with Nvidia.

>>56926013
>Dental is another whammy type event.
Yeah, too bad dental "insurance" is worthless. $1500 limit when a root canal and crown costs $5000. Go to Mexico for dental work that's what I do. It's about 1/10th as expensive and the work is just as good.

>>56926020
ATI drivers were shit, then they bought ATI and it sounds like nothing has changed all these years since then. It was a shame because the ATI All in Wonder card was incredible to the degree it didn't crash and glitch. TV on your PC.

>>56919293
The fact that it is in free fall in good market conditions and everyone thinks going lower isn't possible. People are going long right now under the assumption an enormous further drop isn't possible. They are acting like WMT is free money. That never happens. Plus insiders are selling their asses off.

>>56924902
In my opinion the Biden admin is prepping for a loss to trump and 2024 and are propping up all markets artificially until he takes office again and then the bottom will drop out and he'll be blamed. Makes sense from a strictly political standpoint. If he wins again the media is going to be even more brutal to him before than they were in his last term.

>>56926112
I don't think he'll be able to prop them up for that long.

>>56925254
>it's increasing $1T every quarter
It is, but imagine shaving off a whole trillion off of that over the next 10 years.
It's basically
>deficits are projected to rise by this much
>but due to our efforts we'll be able to reduce this (projected) deficit by $1t

>>56926112
>>56926138
yeah that may be what they wanted to happen but I honestly think it will fall apart in 2024.

>>56925760
Assets? Asset classes, there aren't that many of those. >pic
But there is no shortage of strategies that are uncorrelated.
The biggest ones are the major managed future strategies
>Momentum
>Carry
>Skew
and the 2nd major managed option strategy
>long volatility
of course, we cannot forget
>long-short stock strategies

didn't get a raise but $1000 for the past two years because "inflation has been tough but the high interest rate environment is tough for the company as well"
I've never felt more betrayed

>>56925240
>doubles taxes
>raises spending 25%

>>56926193
GOTTA PLAN FOR ZE FUTURE BIG BOY

>>56926193
CANT MAKE MONKEYS IN THE SOUP WITHOUT BREAKING A FEW OMLETTES IN THE KITCHEN

>>56926193
LISTEN FAT, JUST DO THE THING MAN

>>56918036
Truth, at gym right now. Jacked as fk boi, goyslop faggots btfo.

>>56926171
Just remember that the people above you likely got promotions/bonuses/raises at your expense
>Announce no raises this year in January
>Layoffs in February
>CEO fired a week later
>2nd round of layoffs in April
>Full company restructure + 3rd round layoffs in August
>Entire board + C-suite replaced in September
>2nd CEO fired in November
The year's raise money likely was pre-allocated to the severance for all those people. That's why we trade during core working hours.

>>56924365
Beyond the obvious? Personally I like the theoretical value they calculate which often lands close to where things shake out (I love degen gambling on illiquid chains, so the spread might be huge with an irrelevant last price)

>>56926138
They probably will be quite successful. There is still a lot left in the Fed RRP which is pure and undiluted potential liquidity for the markets. And as soon as that runs out, some other tap will be drawn from. The treasury general account or some other shit. They'll come up with something...
We're clearly already in a stage of mania at the moment which has stated with ACKmans announcement that "he" covered his bond shorts. This was wholly interpreted by the markets at a marching order that a Fed policy 180 turn is imminent.
They are envisioning a timely return to QE and easy money policies; rate cuts themselves would only be a byproduct.
This is why we have seen indices as well as bonds rally in tandem.
>Indices: front run the money printer in expectation of a rona style printing effort
>Bonds: return to infinite QE which would mean the Fed would buy at any price. They want to play middleman again and dump their bags on the Fed. Their avg buying price would not matter if the Fed would return to QE.
What we are seeing right now is a gigantic YOLO effort because le printer gon runneth is what is being expected.

I miss the Meme stock and SPAC era bros, its boring waiting for PLTR PYPL, SHOP and other generic stocks to go up

>>56925054
>What basis was used to determine stats for SAVE merger passing? Looks to me like it's just a pure gamble based on the whims of the judge?
That's all merger arbitration. But to get past "50/50, either the judge approves or he doesn't" you analyze the situation, the evidence and arguments at trial, the judge's background and questions. Bunch of boring ass legal handicapping art that takes years of experience but even then doesn't get you total certainty.

>>56925252
>STVN
The only discussion around that was "it'll crab in a range because they're lazy eye-tais who are missing out on new GLP business". Lo and behold...

baker pls

>>56926094
Pretty solid reasoning.

>>56926500
>waiting for PLTR to go up

>>56918036
Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips.
Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.

>>56926346
Oh I forgot the massive share dilution that just happened
>B-be lucky the preferred shares didn't get totally nuked!
No one gets those but you C-suite assholes

>>56926546
You need to post a baking related meme to get these lazy fucks off their asses

Ok, fine, I'll bake.

>>56926583
That would help. Crab markets are bad for inspiration.

>>56926606
>>56926606
baking

>>56926600
That crab bread is precious.

>>56918657
This.
But Sosnoff won't tell you that...

>>56926503
I'm asking where that info is. Where did the 80% number come from? Who is it that wrote something that made you 80% confident it passes, and what were their arguments for this?
The market right now seems to imply less than 50% odds of merger completion.

>>56922916
>99% chance of multiple interest rate cuts next year
lol,
lmao even

>>56925712
hint they may lower interest rate if inflation show more progress.
inflation rebounds in early 2024

>>56926686
Click "Previous thread" a couple times and search for "SAVE". That chart had a sauce with it.

>The market right now seems to imply less than 50% odds of merger completion.
That's not really the case. For example, look at the dipshits around here speculating on hourly swings with zero information or reasoning. Or well-informed people who get a much better risk:reward by shorting the stock and longing the bonds.