/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56875145
why buy gold when they can dump its price when they want to?

>>56875163
please don't. more for us

>>56875145
Gold hasn't gone up since 2020, despite inflation going up. And silver was $50 in 2011.

>>56875163
Because all that shit is coming to an end and all the big players know it and is why they are buying it as fast as they can.

>>56875163
because it's shiny, has nice designs on it, can be viewed as a hobby and depending on what gold piece it is can have historical or cultural value to you.

>>56875163
Literally the first three links in the post you responded to...
>>56875145
>>Why Gold?
>https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
>https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
>https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>>56875145
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>>56875145
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>>56875199
BTC was $69k in 2021
guess that means it's a bad investment

>>56875376
fuck off dude
you're trying too hard

Clean /pmg/ without CP in it: >>56875231

Anyone have an updated version of this?

>>56875875
>silver eisenhower dollars
basically a myth. there were silver eisenhower dollars minted for collectors but the "circulation" coins were all base metal. i would recommend not buying these unless you bring a scale or an XRF gun

Dunno why I waited so long but I finally bought myself a big tub of "Renaissance Wax" paste to apply to my ancient coins and artifacts. It serves 2 purposes, as it both preserves and protects metals from further tarnishing and rusting while also beautifying and enhancing the appearance of artifacts and coins, especially copper-alloy pieces. I have a few coins in mind that I think will look amazing after getting waxed and buffed, I'll post results when I'm finished.

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>>56875586
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>>56875752

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>>56875822
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>>56875923

Two IDs spamming to desperately keep alive this fake /pmg/ with CP embedded in the OP image. Amazing.

Real thread without CP: >>56875231

>>56875938
Good to know, thanks fren!

>>56875970
Show us the proof, oh wait there isn't any...

>>56875990
Just report and move on.

>>56875990
Just report bud, don't waste your time on these lot.

>>56876013
>>56876051

Hmmm.

>>56875376
Now THIS is shill posting.

https://limitedmintage.com/product/2023-mercury-dime-tribute-1-troy-ounce-32mm-total-mintage-of-5-auction-copy/

i wish it was possible to convert metal into moneys

>>56876952
Metals are money.

PAY ME
PAY ME
PAY ME MY SILVER NOW
PAY ME OR GO TO JAIL
PAY ME MY SILVER NOW

>>56877024

So /biz/ and crypto have been good to me. My question is: is it cliche to expect something to happen around the start of next year?
Something that will make me wish I had PMs? I haven't been ignoring all the CBDC talk, but they're not really ready for mass roll-out yet, right?
That couldn't happen in just a month, or am I wrong?

ngc got the first shipment

realistic silver price if we have a 2009 type crisis?

$100

>>56875967
I just use petroleum jelly.

who else slurpin the dip
i got 15 asahi rounds in the mail

>>56878020
Nice pooper plug.

>>56878020
the mailman decided to steal another apmex package

How do you guys reconcile with buying online and thus leaving a paper trail of your purchases for the bank/feds to keep note of?

I dunno i just can't do it, i'm paranoid and don't want glowies knowing what i'm doing. It's cash and buying in person for me.

>>56878297
You probably don't have enough to be on their radar. Also keep in mind the absolute incompetence of the United States government.

>>56878343
this
US government incompetence helps me sleep at night

>>56878297
I don't give a fuck because they're scared of me going schizo on them anyway.

>>56878255
they didn't steal it after all. did anyone else get their order yet? did you get this version too? i didn't have this version yet. even more glad i bought these now.

I like krugerrands but I cannot deny that the American silver eagle has the cleanest and most beautiful PLING.

>>56875376
elaborate

>>56875191
sirs where am i buying vagene coin pls

>>56878297
Unless you're money laundering and/or tax evading they don't care what you buy.

if you're worried about future confiscation that's not going to happen. They've always relied on the good citizens of the nation to either turn in their own contraband or snitch on their family members.

For tax and legal reasons you're actually better off having the paper trail, and trying to hide it is more likely to get their attention than anything else. But that's your call. The feds are usually pretty interested in people that use a large amount of cash. It's not illegal, but it does attract their attention for tax reasons if nothing else.

also just based on experience working for the feds most of my life- they already know everything. It's a bit disturbing how much they know about you.

>>56875376
>THIS is a FAKE /pmg/ – THE OP HAS CP EMBEDDED IN THE IMAGE
post nose

What does CP stand for? Copper Phonies?

>>56877244
neat pic.

>>56879031
yes
>>56879022
I almost wonder if that anon is some sort of oldfag that hasn't been here since 2010 when embedded files were still a thing. He's a zombieanon.

>>56879031
Cheese Pizza. Fake report too.
Also, 56875376 has been nuked.

>>56878020
Tampa Bay came out swinging this week but the Chargers will be laughin end of season.

alright so i tried to do the math on the true value of silver compared to gold, its not much but here it is, if we go by a 20 dollar double eagle gold coin brilliant uncirculated you'd be able to sell it for 2070 when spot was 2072 a couple days ago based on the sales on r/pmsforsale, divide 2070 by 20 morgan dollars BU that would put one silver morgan dollar at 103.50 regardless of whether it came Carson City or San Fransisco ,its BU and that's all that matters ,so that would put the GSR at 1.21 ,this ration varied since ww2 but the lowest it went was December 1979 down to 1.15 ,pretty close to the math

another rm finally entering into customs. this is turning into a decent day

>>56879191
not sure using numismatic items to figure the GSR works, but it's interesting math either way.

I think the GSR was fixed at what, 1:16 by the gov prior to 1974? So even if the real ratio of the metals varies, the coin ratio was stuck in place.

Regarding the value of metals vs. numismatics, we've had a weird history where gold metal went up in value much faster than silver, but the coins did the revers. Silver coins such as morgans went up in value much faster than gold coins. Currently pre-33 is still some of the cheapest US coinage you can buy from a collector's standpoint. The gold went up in value, but the coins didn't. Vs. the morgan, where the coin went up in value, but the metal mostly didn't.

>>56875665
This is wrong and you should stop posting it. A Ponzi scheme is a fraud based on misrepresentations about where gains on an investment are coming from. In a Ponzi scheme, capital is secretly consumed and used to pay fake gains to investors. Buying stocks low and selling high does not involve any misrepresentation. It is straightforward speculation. I don't recommend it, especially in a market held up with unsustainable debt, but it isn't a Ponzi scheme. In fact, the businesses like Google, Tesla, and Facebook don't have anything to do with the buying and selling of their stock on the market. It is just a bunch of traders trying to buy low and then sell to a greater fool. If you call that a Ponzi scheme, the same could be said about trying to profit from buying and selling gold or silver.

There are plenty of reasons to avoid the stock market, but it isn't a Ponzi scheme.

>>56879277
yes they do. they wouldn't have press releases for material changes or lock down insider trades if it didn't impact share price. i mean, tesla split the stock, specifically to make it more appealing to the broke nigger brains that stock targets. that was to draw volume into the company.

>>56879277
>the same could be said about trying to profit from buying and selling gold or silver.
and has been said lots of times.

the portion of gold and silver value not derived from industrial or personal use is very certainly a speculative bubble, and by that author's definition also a ponzi scheme. Just one that enjoys near universal participation. I'm also pretty sure blowjobs are a ponzi scheme, but that will require a bit more research.

>>56877785
The ultimate concern is the collapse of the USD through hyperinflation. Nothing survives that but real assets. Based on historic precedent, hyperinflation moves very quickly once it begins and cannot be contained. The problem will not be CBDC. The damage will be done before that ever gets off the ground. If you don't have your wealth secured in assets that are outside the range of the whirlpool of collapsing nominal value when the USD collapses, you will lose it all.

>>56878297
When the USD eats it, the US government will have much more to worry about than some small-time stackers. Gold and silver are the LEAST likely assets to be confiscated by government. Virtually every other asset will go first, including bank accounts, pension plans, stocks and bonds, even real estate because they are easier.

>>56875199
Zoom out

I want silver to moon to $100 asap so I can sell it before the market collapses like it did last time.

>>56879375
Ponzi schemes are not speculation. They are frauds involving the misrepresentation of gains by secret consumption of capital. Calling open and honest (even if stupid) speculation a Ponzi scheme shows a misunderstanding of what a Ponzi scheme actually is.

>>56879478
I remember this one time silver mooned to $50 and I went to sell some and nobody would buy it. Then the price went down and places started buying again.

>>56879511
people were buying like crazy here when it hit $40 so I sold a bunch. It took a nosedive later and I bought up the stuff cheaply. Too many people were left holding the bag on that one.

>>56879509
Yep. I think they've very loosely defining it as any system where old participants are paid entirely from the money of new participants.

which fits a lot of stuff, including fiat money, retirement accounts, speculative trading, gold and silver, stocks, crypto, whatever.

>>56879547
I tried two coin stores and a pawn shop and they all laughed at me. They were right too, it went back down like 5 minutes later.

>>56879596
that's a shame. mine were all private sales with two of them being right outside the local coin shop. lol. bunch of suckers.

>>56879634
I wasn't that smart. I sold all my silver at a profit in 2012 though so it was fine.

>>56879738
I'm not that smart either but instead took the advice of my coin guy. Told me to sell the rhodium bar when it was nearing peak and that worked out well enough.

anyone hear about this

>>56879558
It would include any retail transaction. I buy lounge chairs for x dollars and turn around and sell them in my store for x+1 dollars. My profit comes entirely from the money of new participants in the lounge chair market. So now I'm running a Ponzi scheme I guess. It is a very stupid bit of copy pasta.

>>56880736
I see it more as an alternate description of rent-seeking, where someone increases the cost of a thing without adding any value.

a retailer adds value to a product by doing stuff like storing it, buying in bulk and then selling in manageable amounts, allowing customers to view and try the product, having people on hand to help explain the product. Shit like that.

This is in contrast to a purely speculative play, where the seller has done little or nothing to increase the value aside from asking a higher price.
Either way, you're right. They're abusing the definition of "ponzi scheme" pretty badly.

>>56880718
Thats right in line when the 6 (possibly 5) new Countries join the brics and stop using the dollar, Iraq must be one of the many Countries looking to join.

>>56880718
yeah, i'm surprised they're not america fans

crypto nerds will seethe

>>56880853
I think your distinction between the stock market and my lounge chair store is valid and nicely defines the difference between speculation and productive enterprise.

Interestingly, speculative markets, while not Ponzi schemes themselves, tend to breed them. During a boom market, financial advisors can return nice gains to investors. But when the boom goes bust, the advisor doesn't want to start reporting losses to his clients. So with the gambler's optimism, he invades the capital to keep paying his clients, hoping that the next boom will bail him out. When it doesn't arrive in time, his goose is cooked.

>>56881183
>Interestingly, speculative markets, while not Ponzi schemes themselves, tend to breed them.
cool observation.
the other thing I've noticed here is anons tend to lack a human conscience, so they often confuse actions with crimes even when the action alone isn't necessarily criminal. Intent to defraud is necessary in any fraud case. And while ignorance of the law isn't an excuse, ignorance of common human ethics and morals usually is. (not guilty by reason of insanity, e.g.)

so we wind up with people confusing legal activity such as rent seeking with illegal activity such as the ponzi. Or thinking that since usury is illegal, collecting interest should also be illegal. It's a fun playground where psychopaths try to figure out the rules without being able to understand the reasons behind them.

>>56879200
>rm finally entering into customs
I've ordered several from Europe to the US recently but I didn't see any come through customs, just the regular mail.

>>56881362
you aren't seeing them go through customs on usps?

alright so continuing on my research in housing price to gold heres what ive found,in 1890 a large mansion like house worth 10,000 would be worth 516367.20 for 3.01 percent inflation in the 2023,so using the value of a bu double eagle gold coin you'd need 490 gold coins to buy that house in 1890 ,in 2023 you'd need 250 gold coin to buy that same house with a value of 516367.20 ,gold has outpaced inflation and housing prices ,try it your self and see how much less gold you'd need to buy a modern house even with the inflated price today, keep in mind that graded double eagles would be worth 2150 on average so it'd be less

>>56875145
I might have found a good source for cheap gold.
There are gold filled 14k rings on amazon for 75% atm, that works out to them being 2.9% gold, with tax they come to $3.05, I ordered one of the biggest size/width and will weigh it tomorrow to see if it's worth it, I'm thinking it'll be 0.2 or 0.3 grams of gold for $3.05, which isn't bad.

>>56881416
I meant for 75% off,
they are 50% off discount, + another 50% off coupon,

>>56875923
The silver eagle has a intrinsic value of $25 and the paper dollar has a intrinsic value of $1. Did i get that right?

>>56881415
both gold and houses have outpaced inflation over that time period.

you adjusted gold for the increase, but not necessarily houses. Housing depends on location. In my town a house that cost $10k in 1890 last sold a few years ago for $10 million dollars.

>>56881408
No mine all went from "Foreign International Dispatch" to "Origin Post Preparing Shipment" to "Processing through USPS Facility".

>>56881416
a more typical home in my town cost $700 in 1890 and now costs $500k-$700k

this depends on location, but a $10k house in 1890 would be a multimillion dollar property now almost anywhere in the US. That was an enormous mansion at the time.

>>56881519
well thanks for the input ,what kind of house was it to be worth 10,000 in 1890,the reference i used didn't have a picture example ,only the increased value .

>>56881561
this one was $6k in 1888, it's worth a few million but not for sale.

the one across the street from it cost $10k I believe. Still hunting for a decent pic of it.

>>56881561
I believe this one was built for $10k, also 1888.

not a great pic since it only shows the front of the main house. It sits on like a third of a city block, and is about 10 times larger than a regular house in town. It's long. And has some extra houses and barns out back.

>>56881642
>>56881704
thanks for the input, heres what i used to calculate house prices
inflationhttps://calcinflation.com/house-inflation-calculator/
so the 6k house would be worth in the 2 mil range assuming 4.5 inflation is a close estimate

>>56881789
>so the 6k house would be worth in the 2 mil range assuming 4.5 inflation is a close estimate
not far off. I'd guess in my town that house is worth somewhere in the range of about 5 million. I have no sales records for it though, it's been a museum for almost a century I believe.

A lot of that's location. In oklahoma I'd guess those houses would be worth about 1 and 3 million respectively. So below 4.5.

>>56881789
using that calculator,

my house was built in 1888 for $750
It's now worth about a million. (down a lot from last year).

so that shows a 5.5% inflation rate. A lot higher than the 2.68% sites list as the average since 1890 but less than 2/3 of what gold did.

>>56881837
well since these houses are massively inflated then using lets say a slabbed graded double eagle in ms65 grade worth 40k as example, the 5 mil house would need 125 gold coins to buy it ,and 290 coins to buy that same place for 6000 back then, aside from that

>>56875145
Does anyone else have a /pmg/ bug out bag?
Pic related
>9mm with holster
>$3k cash
>9oz gold
Small enough to hide anywhere
Big enough to get any job done

>>56882065
You're cherry picking
Numismatic coins have outperformed gold, houses, and inflation.

They still do. The problem is beating inflation by 3% isn't a great investment right now when stocks often beat it by 5% or more.

collectible US coins>gold>houses>fiat

>>56882136
Why are you bugging out of anything? Do you live in a major city full of negros and plan to go to a secluded location that you have filled with supplies? No? Then it’s a terrible idea to leave your home.

>>56882065
We're also cherry picking time periods, since the dollar was effectively pegged to gold and silver until at least 1960. So almost all of that inflation happened in the last 64 years rather than 133.

from that perspective we've seen coins, gold, stocks, and houses all explode upwards in price, and all of them beat inflation.

>>56882191
silver also beat inflation over that time period, just not as well as houses or gold or coins or stocks.

With the exception of the 2RM, every one of these is a found in the wilderness coin. Most from Coinstar reject trays.

>>56882191
If we really wanted to narrow it down, most of that inflation actually happened in the last 40 years, and of that 40 years most of the inflation was in the last 14. And of those 14 years, most of the inflation was in the last 3 years.

inflation is picking up speed. It's getting much worse. The compounding effect is driving charts through the roof.

Houses in my town took almost 100 years to do their first 10x. Then 20 years to do the next 10x. Then 13 years for the next 10x. It's speeding up.

>>56882178
I have a home that's well stocked.
The allure of a little pouch in the safe that'd get me by financially for a few months for multiple fantastically irrational reasons can be summed up by
>I did something and need to hide off grid.
I'm not planning on stranding my family or shooting up the neighborhood and need to hide in the woods, but I've learned the more I prepare, the stronger my resolve becomes and the 'fuck it - nuclear option' is taken off the table.
I have gold, a gun, and cash in the safe ready to roll. It strengthens how I can handle situations thrown at me today or in 10 years.

>>56879277
Okay, I'll take that on board, even though the gains are largely fake due to depreciating currency value through money creation by banks. I mean, the national capital has been secretly consumed this way and then used to pay failing businesses who then inject it into the stock market so the number goes up even though no value has been created. It's one giant game of musical chairs and nobody wants to stop the music because all the chairs are now gone.

>>56882358
Being mentally prepared for the worst frees you to do your best. No fear.

>>56882191
yeah i am cherry-picking, just trying to find a good middle ground between golds value over the century's

>>56882405
basically true, but the only way to escape the game is notice a stack of chairs in the corner and then try to get them. But to get them you have to engage in the game. And the better you play the game, the better the chair you can get.

So you play the game really well to get the best chair you can, and eventually find you don't want to leave the game since you're really good at it. You've got all the chairs, but fuck it- you don't even want a chair anymore. Now you're the guy telling everyone to keep dancing and ignore the fact that the chairs are gone.

or something.

Bitcoin

>>56882523
nice.

it's beat inflation and it's beat houses. It's also beat silver. It's beat the stock market if you don't reinvest divvies or get picky about the stocks.

>>56882120
>this flavor was all sold out at my local Wlamrat

>>56882447
You summarized my past 15 years
>feel vulnerable
>plan to solve vulnerability
>don't feel vulnerable
A little pouch, vacuum sealed for posterity, with a gun, cash, and gold, seems like an entertaining idea to mitigate waking up to a scenario where life has turned to utter shit.

>>56882546
>it's beat houses
not in my town, but in the US in general maybe.

assuming the average home price in the US is $100k.
Ok, that's probably not true. Houses beat gold by a long shot.

>>56875163
>they can dump its price when they want to?
they can't

>>56881142
>1 pbtid
People who hide behind VPNs are usually Jews or glowies. Not sure what you’re faggotry is about but I hope someone murders your family for your obsession with deception.

>>56882638
Hypocrite seething crypto dork.

>gold and crypto booming
>silver still crabbing
I'm not trying to fudd, I bought most of my silver when spot was 18 dollars. I'm just annoyed that silver is the jew's number one priority to suppress.
While I'm bitching:
>check mint anon's website
>it's 404'd
>have heard nothing from mint anon for 8 months
Did I get rugged? I haven't been keeping up with /pmg/ as often, I know it's not the fastest thing to make custom rounds, but I ordered an Otoya round from holobunga anon in May and got it in August

>>56879276
>I think the GSR was fixed at what, 1:16 by the gov prior to 1974?
It's been like this ever since we invented monies. From Sumer and Athens up to the LMU, G:S ratio always hovered between 13 and 16 for over 2500 years, so a good middle ground would be the greek 1:14.
The modern 1:80-85 is fucking bullshit, we mine at 1:8 ffs, lowest the ratio has ever been. It's just an unilateral decision made by central banksters because gold is all they stack.

If they prefered gold over silver it's not simply for practical reasons (less voluminous), silver wouldn't be much more voluminous if it was x20 the current price, but mostly because they didn't want to compete with industrials over the acquisition of PMs. Eventually it would have had a negative impact on nations' productivity concerning essential goods. At least with gold they mostly have to compete with jewelers.

>>56882358
I can't argue with that logic. I have a silver buffalo and $100 in small bills in my bob, but idk why really. It seems unlikely I'd be in a position where that's the only thing I could grab on my way out the door. It's fun to put one together though, even as just a thought exercise.

>>56877785
I don't think they can roll out CBDCs until they test it in smaller countries first. IIRC they tried it in Nigeria and it was a total disaster for them. I don't think they're ready frankly.

Id still start dca'ing into PMs once they inevitably come back down in a few weeks.

>>56883009
>crypto dork
No, I just hate people who deceive others and don't want to be truthful.

>>56883441
I'm sure the PM prices will drop a bit more soon, but while gold premiums are generally pretty low, silver premiums can and do shoot up significantly when retail demand surges. You don't really need a lot of silver if your goal is just wealth preservation, but because of it's lower value and fractionality, it could be insanely handy if you found yourself in a situation where the money is inflating daily and you need to exchange small amounts for fiat, or you just need to spend it on black market items (common items sold via swap meets or similar because of supply chain issues and price controls). Just looking at what other countries go through during a currency collapse gives a good idea what to prepare for.

You should have SOMETHING already though if your plan really is DCA ing lol. At least grab a tube of silver rounds and a gold coin. You might be happy you did. Who knows what will happen and when?

>>56883287
>check mint anon's website
>>it's 404'd
works fine for me

>>56879478
>so I can sell it before the market collapses like it did last time
I often wondered if JPM uber-stacking silver from 2017-2020 then an extra big slurpie during the March 2020 crisis was just merely by chance, or if they were aware about the scamdemic and stacking was to load up on collateral to giga-leverage not naked once SHTF.

It's 100% evident the big wigs at JPM were informed in advance about the scamdemic, it's something who was years in the making and they took an active role in it. But i don't have any circumstantial evidence they did inform their commodities desk about it.
Maybe it simply was the PM division logically thinking
>wow listen joobros : we are in 2018, all banks in the world are in dark-red territory, forced to cook all their numbers because they got destroyed by zero interest rates policies, all forced at gunpoint to hold worthless Tbonds generating no yields from over-indebted governments, we are on our way for societal collapse from worldwide demographic suicide, trust in institutions is at ATL, the competency crisis is hitting hard... and silver is $14/oz, below extraction costs for most primary miners lol?

I could understand/believe it simply being a normal decision to take, because that's exactly what i did too in 2018, and i too extra slurped during the March dip. But i wasn't in the confidence about the coof. It simply seemed obvious silver could only go up.

I wonder if they plan to unload* until they go down to levels they were owning in 2014-2016. I personally don't believe so, because it's not by selling the physical they make money, but by selling digital IOUs, so this extra reserve is simply the manifestation of the (very) partial backing for all the SVL shares out in the wild.

* = they didn't really unload on their own volition, but comex participants decided at some point to either settle their contracts in physical; or ppl cashing in their shares, reducing JPM's exposition who then didn't need as much collateral.

>>56883287
>I know it's not the fastest thing to make custom rounds
Nah, it's just mintanon who have been the laziest fuck imaginable this year. If /mlp/ can do it in few months, anybody can.
But it should already be shipped and on it's way to you (at least he said so last time).
It's annoying to wait, but it's also a good thing in a way, too many memecoins would dilute the magic around them, and the wallet exhaustion is real too.

Since you weren't around for a while, i'd also let you know a new coin is in the making if you are interested. It's a piratecoin, not shilling for him tho, personally i find it indecent to ask for more money before he even delivered the last one he had almost a year to fucking release.

>>56883620
>I often wondered if JPM uber-stacking silver from 2017-2020 then an extra big slurpie during the March 2020 crisis was just merely by chance

I think this here is just your perception. If you look closely, you will see that this accelerated stacking of silver began in 2010, likely the result of the 2008 crash. It's easy to look over the changes to the financial system around this time as you had the introduction of Basel III. Basically the financial system was told to get its act together and to a degree it did over the next decade.

Personally I think the main reason the can is constantly being kicked down the road is because no one wants to be the one on watch when the whole thing implodes. You're talking about someone's career being flushed down the toilet for the rest of their life, and if you enjoy the position of an elite money manager, then that's a position you don't want to ever lose. Classic self interest sacrificing everyone else.

>>56883302
>If they prefered gold over silver it's not simply for practical reasons (less voluminous)
not even sure that's true. Most of the silver out there is in rare coins or jewelry or technology or tableware or whatever. I try to imagine the Hunt bros squeezing gold the way they squeezed silver and I just can't picture it. For practical purposes I think there's far less silver available than has been mined.

>>56879399
>>56883441
>>56883543
Thanks for the input. I'll get started with a bit and then build slowly for the foreseeable future.
I do remember reading about what happened to Lebanon or some country in that region earlier this year.

Just tried speaking to some zoomer about why BTC is just another means to rugpull normoids but he was having none of it. How do we reach these kids? Also why does nobody even mention gold literally just had ATH pricing? It's not even anywhere near its true value yet people are still clinging to BTC like it's the end-all be-all solution to fiat. What are your arguments against this regurgitated sentiment?

>>56880718
based
But i doubt Iraq's central planners have the authority to enforce such rules. If the iraqi dinar is shit, people will always find an alternative to it to protect their savings. It's just posturing to show their will to join the BRICS/be in opposition to globohomo (read jewish occupied nations).
All they can do is ban withdrawals, not usage on the black market, and you simply have to hop the border and get USD anywhere else. This probably will be a lucrative arbitrage option for truck drivers kek.

Still, we get news about USD abandon on a weekly basis now, on top of all the US treasuries dumping by foreign entities. The loss of reserve status is getting very real. And what would seal the deal imho would be the admission of Ukraine loss. After Afghanistan's debacle and now the entirety of NATO's support losing to Russia would be the admission the US is nothing more than an aids-infected paper tiger bully.

But they better not rejoice too soon, jews wont abandon their control over reserve status without trying all the tricks in the book (talmud). Eventually i think we all anticipate it will end in a massive bloodbath, to protect their hegemony there is no sacrifice cheaper for them than our lives.

>>56883819
I don't argue with them

so far BTC has outperformed gold by almost 60,000,000x

>>56883842
>webm
I'm surprised no one has edited the flag of Israel underneath the American flag.

>>56883848
Isn't it artificial? People just buy into it and it gets accepted. That's basically all that has happened

>>56883907
yep

the same reason gold holds value as well
only difference is BTC is much better at it. At least so far.

>>56883748
Nah we both agree on this, i was saying it's a bullshit reason. This stuff only apply to survival fantasies we read about here about being barefoot, alone and tracked down by vietcongs. Then yes, it's better to have some gold if you want to run faster i suppose.
Central banks aren't barefoot. They have giant underground vaults with a secret service crew and billions to spend. Few hundreds or thousands extra m2 to stockpile bars is literally the least of their worries.
And i've seen different figures, because it's easy to track down gold above ground, but it's much harder with silver. But most admit it's probably an even number : there is as much silver as there is gold above ground in INVESTMENT form (important detail, no doubt if tomorrow we started to melt down silver items to make more 1koz bars we could easily make it an 1:3 or 1:4 weight ratio, but we are still incredibly far off from the 1:82 current price ratio).

>>56883921
gold is useful, people need it to make things, including computers.
I think computers are going to be a big deal in the future, unlike today

>>56883932
What? You aren't aware about the famous CPU coated in btc, and the resistors, relay contacts and connexion strips in bitcoin?
The famous bitcoin used in electronic devices like GPS and smartphones.
The bitcoin very well known to make jewelry. The anti-corrosion, eternal bitcoin used in motherboards and RAM of every computers for socket connectors and electropated components.
Also the great bitcoin used for sattelites coating, the teeth in bitcoin, The injections of solutions of sodium bitcoinothiomalate to treat rheumatoid arthritis.
The radioactive bitcoin isotope to treat cancers. The colloidal solution of bitcoin tracked as a beta emitter for MRI scanning.
The bitcoin nanoparticles for microcoating and nanomirroring.
The bitcoin, used in every launch of any NASA vehicle, as non-organic lubricant, connector and conductor. The famous bitcoin shields used to stop infrared radiations beyond earth's atmosphere.

The bitcoin used as pigment for paints and glassmaking. The bitcoin leaf so your building's roof is shiny. The bitcoin, who can be melted, forged, hammered and drown into lava a billion time and will always keep all it's properties.

>>56883607
Huh, it's working for me now, too.
>no new update since September
Does this nigga not know how to work a simple blog?
>>56883705
>It's annoying to wait, but it's also a good thing in a way, too many memecoins would dilute the magic around them, and the wallet exhaustion is real too.
I agree, but the wait time should be in between designs, not between orders.
>a new coin is in the making
Thanks for the heads up, I'll probably order a few out of a sense of autistic completionism
>>56883819
I think a large part of it is that zoomers were taught that technology would be the future.
They grew up in easy times so they have no idea how hard it is to mine and refine gold, and they've seen countless people get rich off of Crypto and NFTs.
It would be the equivalent of millennials watching people get rich off of Microsoft and Apple stocks and being told they should invest in bitcoin.

>>56883819
zoomers gonna zoom
let em waste their money buying and le hodling nothing

>>56883928
I think there's a good reason the Hunts went after silver instead of gold, and price wasn't it. If they could've squeezed gold they would've. I think they settled on silver because the ratio is actually reversed for investment stuff. I expect on a dollar to dollar comparison, there's actually more investment grade gold in existence than silver.
They were squeezing the bullshit GSR, not just the metal supply itself.
>>56883932
the same is true of lots of strange and rare metals that aren't worth nearly as much. No, most of gold's value comes from speculation. If it was illegal to invest in or own I'd guess it would settle down under $3 per ounce.

>>56883954
based metal connoisseur.

>>56878020
I should get some of these.
https://youtu.be/6WIow93XWFg?t=70

>>56883975
gold and silver are different than all other metals.

Gold >>56883954 is useful. Doesn't tarnish, rust, etc.

Silver is the most electrically conductive metal, it is literally 100/100. It defines for human beings what the scale of electrical conductivity is, since everything else is measured against it. copper is like 97 on that scale and gold at 76.
I have zero doubt silver is going to be one of the most valuable commodities on earth in the 21st century. if gold retains a premium against silver it will be nowhere near the current level.
The Egyptians valued silver more highly than gold. It was not because of scarcity of the metal compared to gold, which is what people say often is the cause.

>>56883975
>guess it would settle down under $3 per ounce.
lol wut

>>56884032
isn't it cute
he's retarded

>>56884010
>gold and silver are different than all other metals.
just like every metal is
>It was not because of scarcity of the metal compared to gold, which is what people say often is the cause.
ok I'll bite. Why?

>>56884032
metals with little or no investor interest are worth some price between scarcity and utility. Stuff similar to gold is not particularly valuable

granted, utility might rise if the price goes down, but even then gold isn't exactly the rarest industrial metal out there, or the most used. Not even close.

>>56884062
it will never cost 3$/oz to mine it. Ever.

>>56884068
It already costs less than that.
it's byproduct, just like a shitload of other extremely rare industrial metals and salts.

it's basically free.

>>56883990
Crazy how silver bullets barely move. Considering how soft it is, i expected the rounds to be completely flattened.

>>56884086
Silver is much harder than lead. Gold bullets would deform a lot, probably outside the budget though.

>>56884086
yeah it's considerably harder than lead or gold.

>>56884079
>>56884062
>>56884050
>>56883975
>>56883921
This is a glownigger shill

>>56884104
how new are you?

>>56884079
>it's basically free.
no one is this retarded. kys glownigger

>>56884130
I mine the stuff professionally, I know what it costs.

most large mines have to pay a few cents an ounce to get rid of it. Just like any other contaminant in their product.

>>56884140
go away please

>>56884145
no

>>56884145
If I change the name of the metal I don't annoy anyone and none of you would disagree.

If I mine a pound of copper for $1.00 and it also contains an ounce of lead, how much did I pay to mine that lead?
$0 because the copper paid for the entire price of mining the lead.

gold is no different.

>>56884145
even you guys know that the price of gold is almost entirely speculative. If it was based on production, the GSR would be around 10:1, not 90:1.

and even that's inflated since about half of silver's price is also speculative.

I invest in gold. I stack lots of the stuff. I love it. I encourage others to stack it.
I'm just not going to lie about why it's valuable. It's been in a speculative bubble that has lasted some few thousand years, and after that much time it's probably not going to collapse soon.

Unpopular opinion but I actually hold gold and bitcoin

>need to catch something like 1 oz of gold per 100 yards of dirt for it to be profitable
>dude $3 ounces lol
Fuel costs alone prohibit this.

>>56884288
yep, the AISC of mining gold ALONE is very high. One gold mine I work on is currently running close to $1700 per oz.

but most gold doesn't come from gold mines. It comes from copper mines and lead mines and zinc mines and silver mines and polymetalic mines and every other mine out there, where it costs $0 to mine because it's a (valuable) pollutant in the actual product.

>>56884282
Okay but why? Wouldn't gold be the first to shape your investment future once the economy becomes a firepit? Like one ounce of silver used to buy six + acres of land. To think of a revaluation at the modern level would be inconceivably higher. Which is why in my mind the top echelons of society are not hoarding BTC rather hard metals and of course jewelry, paintings and numismatics

>>56884288
the reverse way of looking at this is if gold went to a dollar an ounce, every single gold mine in the world would shut down immediately.

and we'd still have far more gold than we need mined every year, because it's mixed in with other metals we need a lot more of.

>>56884339
this is true of silver as well

our entire global silver consumption for industry and electronics could be produced for FREE by copper mines.

>>56884310
anon ,please reference any point of history where an oz of silver can by 6 acres of land
>>inb4 Muh Louisianne purchase meme

>>56884276
Money is the single greatest invention in the history of human productive activity. It forms half of nearly every trade in the global marketplace. There is no single commodity MORE useful than money. And gold is the best money ever known. The fact that a criminal conspiracy used a combination of force and fraud to withhold gold from its highest use did not make it less useful. It simply put it off limits. And that is a temporary aberration in a consistent three thousand year history of gold as money - the most useful thing known to economic man. .

>>56884534
>And gold is the best money ever known.
it was until the population started to increase while gold supply didn't keep up.

now if we used gold as money, a dollar would buy a molecule of gold, maybe a couple. That's not convenient to carry.

there simply isn't enough gold on the planet or in the solar system to use as money anymore. There's way too many people buying way too many things.

>>56883921
>down by half
>holds value better than gold

Not even worth responding to you subhuman.

>>56884079
Aisc of mines is about 25 dollars right now. You are a fucking idiot and you are shitting up the threads with your nonsense and completely uninformed verbal diareaha. Shut up.

>>56884560
right now a dollars worth of gold is a tiny speck, 1/2000th of a troy ounce. Virtually impossible to do transactions with. And that's with almost nobody using the stuff as money. I guess we could make goldbacks with a couple atoms of gold each, but then we have to cut them up every time a new person is born or gets a job promotion or wants to buy something.

>>56884597
>Aisc of mines is about 25 dollars right now.
lol
what a fucking retard.

which mines? they all cost exactly the same? Just $25 AISC for every mine in the world? Do you know what AISC is? Do you know what a mine is?

Would you like to see my folder full of Australian florins and pences?

>>56884641
Yes, I think so.

>>56884086
>>56883990
Should we stack some silver bullets? What if we get attacked by vampires?

>>56884560
So first you say that gold has no use and there is too much of it. Now you say it is TOO valuable and there isn't enough. Right off the FUD script. Hahahaha.

The US government demonetized gold because it was a restraint on its reckless spending, not because it didn't work. Just the opposite, it worked too well.

Randomly posting some

>>56884712
>Now you say it is TOO valuable and there isn't enough
no, I said there's not enough of it

it's not TOO valuable, because we can't use it as money. There's not enough of it. Scarcity is not the same thing as value.

Should i get more gold, silver or both?

>>56884742
I think most here stack in an arbitrary 1:100 ratio.

Personally I just buy gold because silver premiums are high and silver hasn't done well compared to gold. But the fact that it hasn't done well is why most here would say to buy it. They believe it's due for a correction upwards. And they are undoubtedly right, it's just a question of how long until it finally happens.

>>56884753
>arbitrary 1:100 ratio
It's a good round number goal. Arbitrary, sure I wouldn't say no. It's a good way to gage your gold to see if you need more or less. Personally I'd aim for less than 100 myself. If I hit the lotto tomorrow I'd buy a 1:50 GSR when purchasing PMs. Get a large safe in the basement that's just for PMs and no firearms. Stack by the kilo (and monster boxes too)... a man can dream.

>>56881454
Paper dollar has no intrinsic value.

>>56884823

>>56884839

>>56884848

>>56884821
I'd also like to stack huge piles of each, but I don't have that kind of money or storage. Gold seems like a sure bet, but silver has a lot bigger potential upside with relatively little risk right now. Just higher premiums.

>>56884870
I'm not too concerned about the premiums of silver. I'll keep on stacking.

>>56884894
I think you'll do well, but what do I know?

gold is at ATH, silver isn't even close to ATH yet. It should do well. If it ever stops crabbing.

I only stack gold friends, have roughly 35+oz of mostly 1oz generic bars, with a few 2oz and 1/2oz cops. Silver doesn't really interest me beyond coins for collecting, but that's just a hobby thing I've kind of grown out of.

>>56884925
same.
thanks for posting coins, the sheep coin was particularly aesthetic and tasty

>>56883990
>>56884086
Awesome

aNy nEwS oN tHe CrUsAdEr cOiNs?

>>56882252
Nice! I haven't had much luck with those lately except 1 1964 dime. I don't like how my local grocery store has the coinstar right behind all the registers so I look like a bum walking over and rummaging the tray on the way out

hey have you guys seen this? goldback is releasing ATMs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdwd6toiz1c

though I can't tell if they allow goldback -> USD conversion. don't think they can really be called ATMs if they can't go both ways?

>>56885088
check'd

>99.99% pure gold
they're gonna get sued for that one

2024 will be our year pirate bros

Is meme shit worth it?

>>56885118
>sued
what because the plastic? I'm pretty sure they could argue that standard interpretation of their product implies that the material encased is 99.99%. like you don't sue a food company because their cereal isn't just cereal its also the cardboard box and plastic bag inside

>>56885232
what if the cereal was put in the bag and then the bag was filled with glue? They would get sued.

>>56885176
Usually no but a Wonka Golden Ticket seems awfully fitting to be in actual gold.

>>56885088
I'm concerned about theft. A regular ATM where I live has the money in a container filled with ink so if you attempt to break it open the money gets stained/ruined but here you'll still have real gold that you can just melt down.

>>56885336
that's true. but I think just don't have it in places with niggers.

>>56885249
that's not analogous though. if you put a painting/photograph behind a frame it doesn't make the painting/photograph less valuable. only an idiot would want the photo out of the frame where it could get destroyed

>>56879509
>Ponzi schemes are not speculation. They are frauds involving the misrepresentation of gains by secret consumption of capital.
Uh, by that definition all investment denominated in inflating, unbacked fiat currencies are at least partially ponzi schemes since the underlying currency itself undergoes such a process. Most people don't know or understand this (by design), so it's not open and honest, either.

>>56885415
>if you put a painting/photograph behind a frame it doesn't make the painting/photograph less valuable.
laminate it and see what happens to the price.

>>56884820
I rather like middle and right.

>>56885336
>>56885415
The thought of rigging the safe with a knock-out trap so you can take the valuables and get the robber(s) arrested is somewhat fun. Still more fun for no one to know you have a safe, much less try to break in.

>>56885010
Mine is by the customer service (walmart/HyVee) i always check it on my way into the store.

>>56885176
>3500 minted
>only 50 golden tickets issued

Hard pass. It would be great if you were one of the lucky ones though.

>>56881416
>>56881448
Any updates?

So, you know how people go on about Bitcoin as it is the asset that is getting bigger gains. Well, I decided to look into it and came across this.

https://charts.woobull.com/bitcoin-vs-gold/

Unless you brought Bitcoin before 2018, you haven't really gotten again meaningful gains as it has pretty much flat lined. This is interesting because we know the gold market is suppressed with paper derivatives, so if they come undone in the near future, we could be looking at this ratio closing. All we can do right now is wait and see.

>>56887019
I think people have doubled down on bitcoin because it hit 60k. So you have a ton of people who fomo'd in close to the 60k mark and a ton of people that kept holding it thinking it would go higher. Then it crashed and they all got left holding the bag.

...Why is it going back up?

>>56887109
>I think people have doubled down on bitcoin because it hit 60k.
All they have done is that they have brought into the hype instead of looking at ratios between other meaningful assets. We should pay attention to the gold vs Bitcoin ratio trend from now on as that is the only metric worth observing.

>>56885462
>retard doesn't know gold is fireproof and rembrandts aren't
>52pbtid

Afternoon

>precious metals = smashed
>bitfuck = fake pumped on no volume
it's all so tiresome

>>56884455
>inb4 Muh Louisianne purchase meme

Akschually it was just 4 cents per acre, I think silver was pegged at about $1.32/oz at the time of the purchase so an ounce bought 33 acres. Granted it came with a bunch of savage Indian squatters who took decades to deal with, but it was still a breddy good deal.

>>56884820
I've never seen that amusing 1954 florin design, i gotta git me one now.

>>56887874
Finally a decent looking stack pic

>>56887874
looks good, save for the zinc

>>56887874
Afternoon.

>>56887260
I agree with you, I think people that push bitcoin are split into two groups. The ones who are bagholding from the 60k mark and the ones that are hoping to get rich like the handful that did on the original run to 60k. Neither group are seeing anything past that. They don't realize that the run up was driven by millions of people who had never even heard of bitcoin or invested in thier lives piling in who subsequently all got wiped out from the crash. It was all hype with no fundamentals backing it. The only two ways I could see it hitting that price again would be for everyone to throw thier money at it again which is unlikely after so many lost so much or if a major player like the US or China rolled out A CBDC that allowed you to exchange your bitcoin for it.

>>56885176
I'd be more interested if it didn't have a 3rd world country on the back. Feels scammy.

>>56888098
We need a well-spoken bitcoin Maxi to come in and steelman BTC right now. i could pretend to be one, not sure id do the best job. There is atleast one BTC boy who believes in it’s principles who is not coping or greedy right?

>>56888348
I'm a wholecoiner who also loves silver and gold.

>>56888098
An entire nation is using bitcoin. Everything you wrote is invalid.

>>56888127
What the fuck is that

>>56888421
are you feeling copey or greedy about btc right now?

>>56888506
Btc goes up btc goes down. Nobody knows why.

Lads...

>>56888596
I Slurrrrrped

>>56884140
So why do Aussies literally risk their lives, wandering around the outback in the hopes of finding a couple gram nugget?

>>56883819
You simply explain to them the importance of diversifying. At minimum having PMs is like having emergency food/water. The whole point is that you don't know which way the wind will blow.
I'm in crypto. However, I remember when network issues caused many people here to be unable to do many kinds of transactions. Most places don't accept bitcoin for payment.
So governments shutting down normal payment methods is not impossible (especially if they want to push CBDC - just fake cyberattacks). Now if everyone's going somewhere to use their bitcoin because they need resources, that WILL get noticed.
Granted, the same thing could happen to PMs, but it's unlikely you'll have a scenario where both are "illegal".
But again having PMs and diversifying via regular, moderate purchases is simply a basic preparation matter. And if they're not direly needed in 5 years odds are it can be sold for profit. Now some money that would've been blown on drugs, cosmetics and other one-day wonders has at least become more money to spend on such stuff.

into the grading stage

>>56888596
what are they? cool looking

>>56888821
Crypto isn't a hedge against anything unlike PMs.

There are also some very plausible scenarios where crypto is destroyed or made impossible to move.

>Code issues (Bitcoin maintainers and miners)
>Electrical grid issues
>Internet access gets tied to your ID
>Internet gets shutdown except for fundamental services because of muh terrorism or muh antisemitism

>>56888863
Chinese Mint Peking Opera Coin Series (3rd Issue)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284254838930

>>56888910
Not just that but high up insiders like Martin Armstrong and Jim Rickards shit all over cryptos and have exposed them as government control tools.

https://youtu.be/tbtZW_lIWaI?t=2591

>>56888910
yeah imagine if blackouts became more common in the west as infrastructure deteriorates and competent workers retire/ die off.

crypto will look more and more silly.

Gold prices were being discussed on Hacker News this morning, but then the story mysteriously stopped being displayed on the front page.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38546079

>>56888529
And that is part of my problem with bitcoin. If you take out the monetary value of gold and silver by say every nation in the world outlawing the use of gold and silver as a method of payment, no longer able to use gold and silver as any form of currency and it can only be bought and sold as a commodity. It would still hold value just like any other commodity because of its industrial applications. If every nation in the world outlawed the use of btc as a form of payment, what use would it have to maintain its value? What inherent value does it have to drive its price up and down outside of price speculation. I know some will say that it's impossible to ban btc, and sure you could go peer to peer trade with it like when they confiscated gold in the US. You could hide it for years just like those old timers did and hope that someday the laws get changed, but if they did change the law what value would your btc have all those years later? What property of btc would cause it to maintain its value after all that time like gold did? And I'm not arguing at you or trying to get you to get rid of your btc. I'm just trying to convey the questions I ask myself and why I'm not comfortable putting anything into btc. I'm not going to deny that you could make money on btc but in my opinion it's more akin to a casino and you could lose everything as well.

>>56887933
True but the Louisiana purchase was .4 because of the massive amount of land being bought out from the French that needed the money, also you would've needed to buy 160 acres at $2 an acre since there was so much of it,so basically adjusted for inflation the average carpenter would've made $5000 a month roughly, at $27 an oz of silver they'd only be able to afford 217 oz of silver dollars ,$8344 would've been the cost of 160 acres of land or 309 oz of silver all adjusted for inflation, so aside from food cost and lack of medicine leading to a life span of 35 years old, no most people only had the option of living in the small towns instead of homesteading on large property's

>>56875145
Anyone else have silver or other cool coins on their Christmas list?

>>56889718
I've been eyeing those 1/5 oz gold tridents for awhile, but my wife doesn't seem to want to spend that much on me lol. I gotta replenish my fiat stacks a bit before I can justify more purchases RN, but we'll have see. I'm on a shitcoin upswing at the moment so maybe I can grab one before Christmas.

Anything in particular you've been eyeing?

>>56889821
Buy ChainLink

>>56890296
Lol you want him to lose money

Yay, lads. I got a new job!
And - among other things - I get paid to handle silver!
But, holy shit, IQdelete is right. Them premiums, man.
https://www.carlroth.com/com/en/silver/silver-wool/p/9373.1
106€/10g, that's about 300€ an ounce! (And I've also seen it at another seller for 200€/10g)

Or, to give it a more positive spin:
I'm working in the friggin future! Silver's 300€ an ounce! I'm rich, bitch!

Am I being stupid here?

I buy .999 bullion when I can, usually from Chards. Price is around £25/26 per oz ($32/33). Lately however I've been finding deals on 0.925 coins on eBay, I can usually get a 28.28g coin for around £14 ($17.5) and I never pay more than £16 ($20). Current spot price shows the silver quantity of the coin to be at that high end.

Am I being an idiot as even though I'm usually getting spot or lower, it's still only a 0.925 commemorative coin. They're not fake either, acid/magnet test quite a few.

>>56875967
I know something else that I think will look amazing after getting waxed, but sadly, the gf isn't into it. Guess I gotta offer her a merc dime, maybe then she'll do it.
>>56878297
>How do you guys reconcile with buying online and thus leaving a paper trail of your purchases for the bank/feds to keep note of?
>I dunno i just can't do it, i'm paranoid and don't want glowies knowing what i'm doing. It's cash and buying in person for me.
Same here, but sometimes, prices online are just too good, plus, you can't use crypto offline. Just not sure if it's better or worse that I buy at multiple dealers.
>>56882447
>Being mentally prepared for the worst frees you to do your best. No fear.
I like this! If I were into stupid tats like pic related, I'd totally get this written above my Wiener (pun intended).

>>56890639
Silver is Silver. If you can get it at that price, GET IT.

>>56890551
happy stacking

>>56890639
nothin wrong with 0.925

Some here may find this useful in trying to get those they know to stack a little something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vj53w74tF4

>>56891298
>45min
ts which part I should pay attention to.

>>56891336
maybe you should stack some attention span instead kek

>>56891336
The complete package, really. He goes into how false or misrepresented data connects to economic narratives, which are then revealed but the damaged is done by then. It is not, however, a video saying go all-in on PMs.

>>56887019
Lol @ the amount of bs in this post, from 2018? Lmao so many days below 44k to even count ..

Why you guys are so bad at shilling? I mean you don't like btc and that's ok, to each one their own. But stop shilling if you're so bad at it...

>>56879057
werent embedded files a relatively recent thing? its only been like one or two years when people were posting actual CP in embedded images all over the place

>>56891940
you could have made similar gains on gold. that's the point

i bought 2 kg of gold this year, i am sort of regretting i didnt buy bitcoin, but still hoping for a miracle and gold doubling

nevertheless gold gives me no stress since i am 100% sure (maybe i shouldnt be) that it can never go to zero like bitcoin certainly could

>>56892158
post pics or you're a fag
simple as

>>56892167
scared of hackers locating me and killing me for my gold but it's in a bank vault anyway so good luck getting my gold mother fucker

>>56892101
Again, bullshit and so obvious bullshit! Just check a chart

Gold from 2018 onward was as low as 1200 an ounce, top of around 2100? That's not even a 100% gain

Btc since 2018 was below 15-10k many times with a high of 69k. I mean even now at 44 if you bought below 15k you would be almost at 300% gain

Why the bad shilling? Why the obvious bullshit?

>>56892158
>i am sort of regretting i didnt buy bitcoin

I posted this earlier but guess i'll do it again.
https://youtu.be/tbtZW_lIWaI?t=2591

>>56890702
How do I get a woman like this?

>>56892158
Bitcoin smoked your gold investment.

>>56892219
>I posted this earlier but guess i'll do it again.
he is saying nothing i never thought of myself...
that's not the point, the point is profits

i'm not a retard tho and i know that the end game is gold, that's why i went for gold and overcame the fomo

>>56892214
Yeah BTC went up stupid amounts of "money" Thats the point, they want people in the cryptos and its why the metals were kept in a boring not really doing anything range to keep the herd disinterested in it.

Theres you're red flag along with the fact all the banks and super power countries of the east are buying it in droves and not buying any cryptos.

>>56892252
>my fake made up numbers on a screen is better long term then your real, essential, physical assets
>muh fiat printer paper value equivalent
Baggies actually believe this.

>>56892305
Based.

>>56892266
>the point is profits
Then you sound like you are still in the mindset of a short term trader, those days are ending now and we're going into a new world, from now on its not return on your money, its return of your money.

Musical Chairs! Keep playing until the music stops just make sure you have a place to sit in the end.

>>56892398
It all goes back to PMs.

>>56892305
Lol you really think banks and governments own NO CRYPTO whatsoever today?

You really believe that?

You are telling me the governments look at Elon Musk, Amazon, other billionaires and even Black rock getting into BTC and other cryptos and they just say "naaaaaah not for us"

Thats fockin hilarious

Yeah it's all a big conspiracy crypto you know...yeah don't buy it anon they want to scam you (lol)

>>56892214
>Why the bad shilling?
I think you mean fudding.

>>56892417
>you really think banks and governments own NO CRYPTO whatsoever today?
The government owns BTC through seizure, and if BlackRock started stacking PMs the price would skyrocket because it would be an obvious sign that fiat is failing. BlackRock doesn't mine BTC and neither does the US Federal Government.
>t. former BlackRock employee

>>56892417
>You are telling me the governments look at Elon Musk, Amazon, other billionaires and even Black rock getting into BTC and other cryptos and they just say "naaaaaah not for us"

Non clown world governments, Yes.

>>56892469
They don't mine it, but for being an ex employee for them you are very badly informed.

In fact they own good % o mining companies in their portfolios, that's weird you don't know this ..

>>56892499
>they own good % o mining companies in their portfolios, that's weird you don't know this ..
Oh I know it. But it's still "you don't hold it, you don't own it" and also stocks in crypto mining companies are never profitable. You're retarded for not knowing that... fucking sub 100 IQ baggie. Kek.

>>56892417
Governments get involved with crypto

>>56892537
Oh ok, you know it and you think they are stupid, ok anon...you are too high IQ for me.

never realized that gold and eagle sold ancients. neat.

>>56892417
More government involvement

>>56892563
>you think they are stupid
They hire pajeets and solely exist as fiat for the sake of fiat. Just like crypto for the sake of crypto. If you still believe in BTC then you have faith in fiat still. You're too low IQ for this thread. Now leave and go post in an internet computer thread. Those seem more your speed.

>>56892626
>you have faith in fiat still
At least you are really good at making me laugh

>>56892642
You should be weeping that you feel for the CBDC version 0.5 meme. You know it deep down inside that governments can control BTC far easier than PMs. Enjoy your counterparty risk fool.

>>56892626
>Now leave and go post in an internet computer thread.

Kek, funny story moment, an American called me during the last bullrun. Asked me if he should invest in ICP, told him its better to keep fiat than buying ICP
Oh wait isn't fiat what I have faith in? According to your bullshitting replies

>>56892688
Its ok, because those numbers are backed by something.

>>56892688
>Governments can control btc
Yeah, if they destroy the grid and the internet they can

But who is gonna watch TV then? :)

>>56892696
>an American called me
He's not an American? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Isn't it easier to just tell people to stack while they invest in other stuff, rather than going all-in on investing? It's weird that a long chain of bickering evolves almost every time.

so what's goin on with the price at the moment?

>>56892719
I think he is

Finish up this thread then head over

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>>56892727
A video popped up on my feed yesterday titled “IF YOU DONT HAVE ANY SILVER YOU’RE DEAD”. From that Muttstacker and the Miles Franklin dude.

>>56892791
See >>56892909 dirt colored idiot.

Hes samefagging

>>56892221
>a woman

>>56890296
Do you mean: buy More link and put it on a ledger? If so, I'll agree. Only a handful of cryptos have that jew international banking moonshot, but like everything, there will be a window of opportunity to put it to work.

My long term strategy is to acquire more property in different areas of the NA continent with equipment and independent energy sources, but I realize it's a lofty goal. Tossing a couple hundred bucks on a silver order here or there is easy for now though. It's pretty amazing how time seems to fly and stacks increase via random little purchases like that.

>>56888952
Is that you chinkanon? Can't you help me with those countermarks? The seller find them sus but with no extra precision because he doesn't speak mandarin. The coin is legit but the countermarks could be later additions (way to ruin a nice collectible coin..).
Can you tell me what does it say exactly?

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Post 310, anchored down to the bottom now.