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I bought calls yesterday because I was told there would be a rally. Did I get meme'd or is today the last chance before the rally?

Filter all j*nior g*ld min*r spammers

anime is bearish

last thread still isn't bump limited, OP is a newfag that doesn't know /biz/ bump limit is 310 posts not 300

Fun fact: TVTX was founded by Martin Shkreli

>china takes a credit hit
>chinese bonds now about to increase their yield
IAGG bros we're getting more divys

>>56873313
>Why would you think the cybertruck was bullish?
because usually the stock goes up before tesla presentations, i was just too late lmfao. if i sold the same day i could've actually made profit, i expected it to keep rising right up until the presentation.

welp, now it's almost worthless so it doesn't matter and I'll just sell it during the next tesla bullrun with minimal loss (or maybe even profit). Unless the tsla stock manages to hit -9% from current price, then the certificate knockout condition gets reached lmfao. but 250 bucks vs 200 bucks lost, doesn't really matter now does it

>>56873336
elaborate in a way that a drunk person (me) understands your statement.

>>56873354
sex with intoxicated lesbians who can't consent

Buckle up, buttercups. In a half hour, the entire market will scare people shitless. There aren’t going to be bailouts, this time.

What are your best tips to stop losing money trading? Should I not buy things right at open?

>>56873342
Bro, using the biggest fraud in the wrestling industry is not going to make people buy your bags.

>>56873369
why would bobos need bailouts?

>>56873373
if you are day trading thats a good start yes, the opening 30 minutes see large volume and direction is often not clear as the price can swing instantly in the other direction

>>56873305
What will you do if you learn that your high end Stamm escort is actually a bloomberg correspondent?
8K CHF per hour is plenty of money to get by... why should girls go out and whore themselves by working for Bloomberg?
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6K CHF per hour is plenty of money to get by.. why should girls go out and whore themselves by working for bloomberg?

>>56873373
Remove fomo from your blood line. Don't trade anything being mentioned by business FAKE NEWS or finance youtube grifters

>>56873373
embrace the bogle

>>56873373
use RSI(12) instead of RSI(13) so you're one step ahead of everyone

What will you do if you learn that your high end Stamm escort is actually a bloomberg correspondent?
6K-8K CHF per hour is plenty of money to get by... why should girls go out and whore themselves by working for Bloomberg?

What the fuck was that?

someone post the market opening gif

BABA bros how we doin

>>56873396
RSI is a memeline that is calculated retroactively, so it basically only looks good in the past

Did anyone else read that Carnegie article they put out about China? They don't even touch on demographic issues and basically say that China has to shift huge amounts of its growth engine onto the consumer side despite consumers being more wary than ever to spend, and that otherwise they'd need to grow their debt levels to 500% of GDP to maintain 4% - 5% growth over the next decade. That's again assuming nothing about their demographic challenges, and was put out just before that credit downgrade was released, making that insane debt level even less possible to maintain. It also pretty much said that their current model was only sustainable if the rest of the world intentionally stopped investing in their own local manufacturing industries to compensate for China's slowdown, specifically to help China, which they pointed out was patently absurd. There's a point in the article where they suggested that by the early 2030s even 1% - 2% growth would be hard to sustain.

I'm legitimately starting to think that China might be facing a long-term slowdown bros.

>>56873410

>>56873434
>only sustainable if the rest of the world intentionally stopped investing in their own local manufacturing industries to compensate for China's slowdown, specifically to help China
That IS what all of our politicians have been bribed to do after all.

>>56873410

>>56873447
Elephant market confirmed

>>56873434
okay but ...china doesnt fucking matter, it never did.

>>56873434
The ace in the whole for china is its massive authoritarianism. The entire first world is facing a population crisis because the ((post modern)) world sucks ass. A strong centralized government could force through social reforms to promote masculinity and traditional family values to solve it.

NOVAK PUMPING OIL BAGS

Oil collapse below $70/barrel by end of day. Cap it, bet on it, suggon deez nuts

>>56873466
The article didn't touch on the demographics at all though, that's why I expressly mentioned that. It's saying the entire model is hitting a wall and doesn't bring up demographics as a factor. Additionally a bunch of countries have tried doing precisely that and failed, I don't see why China would be any different. They already revised a ton of their laws and their birth rates have only fallen faster since.

Doomposters very heavy handed today, we end green af today

>>56873373
>Should I not buy things right at open?
No lol, that's when you want to sell, or be open to buying. Buyin the noon lunch time when people have already settled for the day.

>>56873421
>RSI is a memeline that is calculated retroactively
So use it for confirmation retard. I don't understand people that criticize fundamentals when they don't even use them correctly.

>>56873504
>use it for confirmation retard
Confirmation of what lmfao?
You can also use the profit you made on a trade for "confirmation"

> NOVAK: RUSSIA AIMS TO MEET OPEC+ OBLIGATION IN JAN.: TASS
> NOVAK: OPEC+ READY FOR FURTHER CUTS IN Q1 2024: TASS
See, after the bad news and the gloominess, the good news

>>56873477
Russia just said OPEC+ is going to continue cuts, wtf are you talking about?

>>56873479
Xi is way ahead of everyone else and saw the writing on the wall a few years ago. China will undergo a slow demolition of their economy for the next decade.

>>56873377

SHOT BROS!!! WE'RE FUCKED!!! THE ONE PRODUCT WE HAVE SOLD OUT ON AMAZON AND NOW NOBODY CAN BUY OUR PRODUCT!! THAT MEANS NO MORE REVENUES AND WE ARE GOING TO GO OUT OF BUSINESS!!!!

there is literally no way to guarantee what price will do the next day

China Evergrande default. Total chink death two weeks away.

>>56873550
there is no one that can compete with this

>>56873563
Hamas took puts against israeli businesses before their invasion and made a ton of money.

>>56873305
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/arlington-home-explodes-arlington-virginia-neighborhood
>haven't seen the BBC poster for 14-16 hours
did we profit from this?

>>56873477
>he was bearish at the bottom
Many such cases !

>>56873583
sorry sweaty that's been debunked
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/tel-aviv-bourse-says-no-unusual-trading-ahead-oct-7-hamas-attack-2023-12-05/

>>56873351
>the next tesla bullrun
name one catalyst

>>56873434
>China has to shift huge amounts of its growth engine onto the consumer side
this is pure projection. china is in the 1940s still. they are not in the 1980s when this mattered for the US.

>>56873563
>Index fundie:
1. DCA
2. Never look
3. Chill
4. Profit
>T-Bill Lad
1. Buy a T-Bill
2. Cash it out eventually
3. Profit
>Spot trader
1. DCA
2. Look constantly
3. Be a nervous wreck
4. Maybe profit
>Futures trader
1. Dump your entire bag
2. Leave the site up
3. Never leave the room
4. You were liquidated. Start back at Index.
>Crypto Retard
1. DCA
2. Never look
3. Oh, it's down by 50%
4. Oh no, you're poor again

>>56873594
>allegation of highly semitic insider trading
>no unusual trades
>in israel
so its true

whats the next next big thing smuggies?

>>56873594
>steven scheer
Libtard living in Jerusalem. Surprised he’s not a Tel Aviv cuck, but he’s still just as bad

>>56873628
the return of commercial real estate and regional banks. america loves a comeback story

insiders be cashin

http://openinsider.com/top-insider-sales-of-the-week

*BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>56873628
BCLI

lets goooooooooooo!!!1!!!!!!!

>>56873600
I am 100% anti-EV but American mining companies are basically given the green light to turn every stone to explore and mine rare earths in the US. Even California is letting it happen.

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?!

Reminder that SHOT'll probably peak within an hour or so once retail's blown its call-buying wad: >>56870905

BOBO ARE YOU OKAY

>>56873638
Well of course, where else are you supposed to sell your stocks? It's freezing outside!

>>56873662
Uh… yes?

>ttwo call getting absolutely heemed

>>56873643

SAVE SISSIES WHAT THE FUCK

>>56873657
yeah, I'm thinking TAN is a 2x by end of year and XLE should drop 50%.

>TVTX
Mmmmmm

>>56873679
>Game is a violent power fantasy
>"I know! Let's make the player an uggo in the black part of Rio!"
>You bought calls on this

>>56873685
Closing arguments today: https://twitter.com/David_Slotnick/status/1732026250582004130

god... the cybertruck looks like such a clowncar

>>56873685
I got out at $15 on Friday.
Save is done until the end of the month through the first and the trial might make shit worse.

I bet my weed is going to do another +20% day.

CRAB
TIL
DEATH

Is day trading not a meme with a big enough bank roll? I was going to just dollar cost average into schd, but of course I'm addicted to profits and took them so now I'm back in cash.
Thinking something like
>$200k trading bank roll
>put those profits into spy/schd

>>56873643

>>56873730
How many billionaire day traders do you know?
Exactly

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>56873685
Ride the wave anon.

>>56873738
The problem with day trading is that you aren't open to moonshots.
Even if it does, you'll never be there to take advantage of it. Most day traders will sell any high before it ever moons, or sell out a short before it ever drops.

10 year 4.20%. Smoke that shit

>>56873755
>taking small profits is bad because you miss the big profits.
anon...

What went wrong gold bros? Seems like whenever gold wants to pump, bitcoin comes in and steals the show.

>>56873685
Be honest, you sold the bottom didn't you?
Classic stop loss hunting.

Save bounced off the 2W2H50SMA. Last time it did that it was a buy signal on Nov 29

>Chinese bond yield curve is starting to invert
chottomatte

>>56873738
>>56873755
>moonshots
I definitely believe in taking asymmetrical risk and moonshots have their place just like gold and crypto have their place.

Europe at ATH. Come on shit & piss, don't fail me now.

>>56873813
SPYsissies....

>>56873813
Apple singlehandedly pulling up SPY with that +3% 20mins after open lmfao

INTERST IS UP
AND THE STOOKS MARKET'S DOWN
YOU'LL NEVER BE A WOMAN
MAKEUP'S FOR CLOWNS

>

>TVTX
>TVTX
>TVTX

>>56873583
It would have been the smart thing to do but anyone who thinks these towel head niggers plan for anything way in advance are retarded. There useful idiots for the Iranians and the rest of the Middle East. Nothing more, nothing less. However, if there are people out there who made money on this, good for them.

BASED HOOD
propping up all the lessor STOOKS
up 3% today.

we are so fucking back bull bros

>TFW panic sold my at&t calls because they dumped premarket
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

WTF WAS THAT????????????

What in the ACTUAL FUCK was that??? Not even joking this time, WTF??

>>56873954
I COULDVE BEEN UP 200% ASDFHYGIBTUONIB AAAAAHHHHH

Seems like Nio, Ticker: NIO finally reversed the trend.
Glory to Xi and The CCP.
The chinese century is coming frens

>>56873956
>>56873968
>U.S ISM NON-MANUFACTURING PMI (NOV) ACTUAL: 52.7 VS 51.8 PREVIOUS; EST 52.3

>U.S JOLTS JOB OPENINGS (OCT) ACTUAL: 8733K VS 9553K PREVIOUS; EST 9300K

did something break?

>>56873395
>Buys treasuries in your path

>>56873981
job openings WAY down, just as hoped

>>56873956
>>56873968
>>56873981
And so it begins

BAD NEWS IS GOOD NEWS. WE PUMP

>>56873466
North Korea of all places is actually surprisingly set up to pull ahead of all the Asian countries because of this.

>>56873683
>>56873736

almost back at pre-pandemic levels

>>56873979
>>56874009
isn't this bad news though? Companies not expanding so there are less job openings, right?

>>56874033
Stop posting this roastie

Almost completely back after 2 max loss days in a row

>>56874047

>>56874046
you dont want a ton of extra jobs, you want a balance. labor markets that are too hot causes inflation. inflation bad

What the FUCK do I buy

like those labor statistics, way better than what was priced in
9.5 million vs 8.7 million is huge

its finally our turn TLT friends

>>56873979
>Stagflation intensifies
So I guess the fed will chuke rates then.
>>56873772
Gold never goes anywhere until it does. Holding it in a brokerage account is very silly unless you have to for tax reasons IMO.
>>56873657
TSLA will never be TM no matter how much you want it to be.
>>56873622
>>Crypto Retard
Is COIN done pumping? I'm thinking about divesting from all my equity soon and I'm trying to decide if I should hold it through the chop.
>>56873523
It doesn't matter

>>56874066
>Buying during a pump
Lmao

name a better chart than DOCU (hint: you cant)

>>56874066
SVIX and TMF

>>56873407
wtf is a Stamm escort

>>56874097
>SVIX
Short volatility at a historic low? What?

Wait, GTA 6 will come out in 2025? LMAO
I thought it would release soon. KEK

>>56874110
2k the day after release sounds like an easy short.

>New home prices in Spain rise by most since 2007 http://reut.rs/3Rpi07T
uh oh

>>56873954
>>56873954
>TFW panic sold my at&t calls because they dumped premarket
>AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
Genuinely anons, how the fuck do you cope during stuff like this? How do you control your emotions not to sell ahead of time?

>>56874110
There isn’t a PC that could play it on the lowest setting, at the moment.
Doesn’t matter to me, though. AAA games are garbage.

>>56874141
And how do you stop seething about it later?

if the soft landing is actually happening, why is boston properties (BXP) dumping? what about the bidenomics

>>56874141
>>56874152
short term options is just coin flip gambling, you have to accept it as such

eat more
Cape Cod
farm raised
shellfish

>bears
C'mon brother

>>56874110
probably 2026 with delays and then 2027/8 for the pc release lol

>>56874166
Woah I used to live in one of their buildings. I knew they were hijacked by the Chinese but I had no idea they were publicly traded.

>>56874175
I'll stick to eating Cape Cod kettle cooked potato chips.

>tvtx
>tvtx
>tvtx

>>56874167
Are they really though? E.g. take two after the trailer dropped

>>56874175
How to invest in Cape Cod oyster farmers?

YOU PUSH IT

do i hodl?

>>56874232
cheap premium on these bad boys. stop playing around with mag7 bullshit

>>56874232
>a bit over 3x
anon if you are proud enough of it to screenshot it take at least some profits and let whatever you are comfortable losing run

>just woke up
>making money

>>56874066
COIN only seems to go up, until that one day that it doesn't

>>56874274
we do a little bottom ticking. it isn't about making money. it's about sending a message

>>56874085
Steeve Coogan on the right.

>yfw the US stock market hasn't made any real gains in 50 fucking years when adjusted for inflation

>>56873954
Almost an hour later and I still can't stop seething
This will bother me until I made up 5x as much money

>>56874285
What do you think? Sell now or wait till the end of the year.

SAVE SAVE SAVE

>>56873434
I think China needs diversity.

>>56874334
>Sell now or wait till the end of the year
Use stop losses and you won't have to think about this question

WTFWT
THE BIG ONE?!?!?

>>56874334
A BTC rally is tricky to play because the hype is making retards who literally never invest think "maybe I should buy BTC" so there's a feedback loop of hype and euphoria until the top is reached and the steam runs out. BTC could pump higher, even MUCH higher, or it could stop right now and COIN would fall with it. Taking profit right now might be too early but you should definitely get ready.

>>56874232
Can someone explain to me what this means?
If you do, include your favorite animal and I'll provide a webm of it.

how are we feeling about january GLD $250 calls

Why the fuck is the market going higher with this Biden bullshit? Dump this shit Bobo

>>56874403
>On July 9, 2007, Chuck Prince, then the CEO of Citigroup, made a comment that was to become notorious: “When the music stops, in terms of liquidity, things will be complicated. But as long as the music is playing, you've got to get up and dance.

is it time to show that retard strength and rally to 460 on spy

Fuck whoever told me to buy WEED, and bless thy anon who said MARA isn't too late.

>>56873466
>A strong centralized government could force through social reforms to promote masculinity and traditional family values to solve it.
Russia did this and continually saw young men take their own lives for two decades through alcoholism. It's about the opportunities being provided, not trying to push shit.
What the US needs is to kick out every uneducated immigrant from the last ten years, which would lower the cost of living and incentivize families to grow(inb4, tangent). China doesn't need a population growth, they've hit the limit. But they need to be able to accommodate for their elderly population while lowering the cost of living for the child bearing population if they want to have age/demographic stability.

>>56874411
Sweet, I took a ballroom dancing class once

>>56874353
I need to figure out how those work.

>dax record high
>btc pumping
>yellen wants cuts
>bynd pumping
>ticking sounds as we go up the track

>>56874433
>kick out every uneducated immigrant
They need to kick out all the immigrants. The H1Bs flattened the job market for programmers. Any American who took out debt to get a CS degree has been absolutely fucked by the US government over the past year.

>>56874446
I did this back when there were more women than men at them. I wish I had gone more.

>sales reports show the middle class has no more money to consoom bullshit like the latest apple product and their sales are dropping pretty hard
>apple goes up anyway
are you just supposed to guess or flip a coin on stock news now

>>56874486
Well, the one I went to was for couples. My ex made me go. It was literally the two of us (in our late 20s) and a bunch of 50 and 60 year olds

>>56873305
I WILL NOT PLAY GTA AS A FUCKING WOMAN

>>56874433
>oung men take their own lives for two decades
Well now they get to die pointlessly for a bit of clay.
>What the US needs is to kick out every uneducated immigrant from the last ten years
closing the borders would be a start.

>>56874501
Their iMessage moat has been forded as well. The front page of hackernews has this on it: https://github.com/JJTech0130/pypush
All they have to keep going on is their marketing which isn't exactly targeting the middle class anymore.

Stop pushing the market higher. We need SPY to go under $453.

>>56874512
Good news...

>>56874473
When will German garbage finally dump, I've been holding my short MDAX bags for too long.

>>56874535
>We need SPY to go under
eat my ass m8

>>56874473
It's good to recap the current timeline.
>Dec 2018 = Oct 2022
Rate hikes peaked, stock market bottomed.
>Today = Dec 2019
New highs inbound, euphoria returning, nothing could possibly go wrong.
>What came after that?
February 2020, and then march.

>>56874501
>has no more money to consoom
yeah but who needs money when you have credit rite?

>>56874535
the fuck do you care? it's just for dividends and savings...

>>56874556
Fuck your fake and gay pump.
Everything is terrible.
Economy is bad.
Inflation is bad.
People dont have jobs.
People dont have money.
Fuck your calls.
You dont get a bull run until Trump comes back
Fuck your calls.

>>56874566
The temptation to buy nice food on credit when you're unemployed is really incredible.

>>56874446
i go to salsa for latina mamacita

>>56874602
ew

>>56874556
based. doomer bulls are the only ones who will make it

BITF shill here. You bought didn’t you?
You didn’t fall for the MARA/RIOT midwits did you?

>>56874477
>The H1Bs flattened the job market for programmers.
Tell me about it. Only people worth hiring end up working as contractors aaaa. Sorry to sound like someone on /twg/, but fuck it's hard to find an HR Dept willing to hire an American (even though the team would love having more 'murican coders). Again, it comes down to "I memorized shit to get a degree at New Delhi university out of a cheat book" versus "I've continually been making projects that mean something but god forbid I have a 3.8 GPA". Fuck this job market, at least I just interact with customers and I don't have to work on the technical team except for bs meetings.

>>56874594
just take door dash from porches. it's saved me hundreds a month in groceries. plus it's kind of exciting never knowing what you're going to get.

>SPX flat
>Mag7 +1.4%
Fagnificient 7 bros we're BACK!

>>56874664
I actually enjoy programming.
>>56874673
I stole someone's lightbulb while drunk the other day.
I was out at night and saw it was an led bulb and thought "hah, it's probably cold and I can touch it" and then I unscrewed it and didn't know what to do next so it's just sitting on my coffee table. I don't want to give it back because I'll probably get in trouble.

>>56874699
>LED
you're supposed to take the incandescent ones and sell them to paranoid boomers.

>release long anticipated trailer to what will be the best selling game since the last one came out
>73 million views in 17 hours
>Stock price actually goes down

I'm fucking done playing stocks. This shit makes no sense whatsoever. Companies do bad and stocks go down. Companies do good and stocks go down still. There is no logic to this clownworld game. Its just all gambling.

>>56874648
Have 25k shares, +40%...do I sell at 60% or wait?

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>56874736
skill issue

>>56874736
2025 release

>>56874221
Aah I missed you, Wayne static poster

>>56874736
>>release long anticipated trailer to what will be the best selling game since the last one came out
It sucks. People are tired of these ideas being shoved sideways into games and it's not going to sell.
AAA games:
The DRM fucks you
The unoptimized engine slop fucks you
The politics fuck you
And you pay a premium for it. If I had known they were publicly traded I would have shorted them over that.

I should have bought more TLT

>>56874736
Bottom signal

>>56874736
>a 2 min trailer being watched is the company doing good
stock was priced at the trailer being good, trailer was not well received and stock drops
you are getting played by market makers

feel free to pick either as to why their price went down but betting on a trailer of a video game to pump a stock seems retarded to me
when the game comes out that would be a bet worth making as highly hyped game = high sales no matter if the game itself is good or not

>>56874736
It's because of the leak
only tightwads were able to sell the news

>>56874736
the trailer is funny AF. views don't necessarily mean it's good.

AFRM BROS ITS OVER

>>56874792
theres so much more meat on the bone. the banking system is sound and resiliant

>>56874736

Release will be 2025 and the first 2 years after that is going to be console gamers beta testing the broken pajeet coded piece of shit for PC players.
Rockstar is notorious for producing the most unoptimized garbage imaginable.
Besides people might not be all that receptive to buying a modern day America nog life simulator.
Especially if it gives a realistic picture of them, because people fucking hate that rich and vibrant cultcha.
Even nigs want to get away from it.

>>56874802
Wonder what the ROI is on trailers 2 years out from your release.

>inflation cooling
>unemployment still record lows
>rate cuts inbound
>banking crisis averted
>earnings still solid
>wars winding down
what exactly is the bear case again? cause looks like we finna bouta rally from here on out.

Made 1.5x on a 5k MARA investment. Sell now?

>>56874862
Is this AI art or real?! puts on feels.

SAVE sisters this better bounce

>>56874874
>>inflation cooling
U.S ISM NON-MANUFACTURING PMI (NOV) ACTUAL: 52.7 VS 51.8 PREVIOUS; EST 52.3
You sure about that buddy?

>>56874879
is 7500 life changing money for you?

>>56874906
It's over.

>>56874880
real

>made great trades all last week and this week in a practice account
>still can't bring myself to click the button when i go to login to my real money account
lol. i'm doomed to be cucked. how are you supposed to let go and put thousands on the line?

WHAT THE FUCK AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>56874880

It's real.
Game studios are either one of two things:
>100% pro feminist tranny garbage that includes modern politics
>100% dudebro nerd shit male space that women't won't be caught dead in

There's no inbetween, because if there are any malignant elements allowed in, they will rise into positions of power and change the entire fucking landscape in an instant.
It's not hard to figure out which companies put out good products.
If there are any pictures from these studios with tons of women, the studio is as good as dead.

>>56874930
Hold the line, we're just slurping up options.

>muh GOLD

>>56874840
I think I held that company for a grand total of 12 hours and made a healthy profit for it.

>>56874920
nowhere close.

anons, did you know we germans have to pay 2.55% annual tax on etf profits, even if they are unrealized?

>>56874972
I'm not slurping anything. I've been selling the fuck out of Dec 15th calls.
Judge just announced they're worthless.

>>56875041
so do they get to write off 2.55% on etf losses, even if they are unrealized?

time to invest in the freeing of the chud shackles
https://www.realdoll.com/realdoll-x/
powered by AI, it will talk to you, moan and such
some real uncanny valley shit if you ask me
also
SANTA RALLY
A
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T
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R
A
L
L
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>>56875041
Do you have things like our tax deferred IRA/401k accounts?
I do almost all my trading in those unless I have to short something (you're not legally allowed to short things in a retirement account.)

>>56874101
regular escort in Mountainjewland

WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK

>>56875041
that sucks. what's the capital gains tax on realized? in the US it's 15% if you've held for a year, otherwise treated/taxed as regular income

>>56873407
desu it sounds to me like some jewess just min/maxing money as they're want.

>>56874750
If we’re actually in for a real BTC bull run, we’re just getting started. 440 1.50C expiring Jan 2025 and 4000 shares for me brother.

>>56874874
pretty simple,
1. you live in a virtually pure consumption economy and consumers have maxed their credit cards and are now cashing out their 401k's
2. crypto is a gambling activity
any questions?

>>56875057
>so do they get to write off 2.55% on etf losses, even if they are unrealized?
lolno
>Do you have things like our tax deferred IRA/401k accounts?
lolno

>TVTX

Gonna go long 0dte (itm) at yellow line me thinks.

>CHINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

https://youtu.be/zTuD8k3JvxQ?t=42

>>56873417
心有余力不足

>>56875086
>what's the capital gains tax on realized?
25% + 9% on that 25%

>>56873369
I told you all. This is it. This is the big one.
Change your attitudes, the ride is just beginning

EMERGENCY MEETING THE CRYPTOBROS ARE LAUGHING AT US AGAIN

>>56873434
All of this china talk is actually retarded. We aren’t going to have unipolar order in anyone’s lifetime again. China isn’t going to control Asia because “they have no rizz fr fr no cap”. But all the shit people are saying about china is analogous to what people would have said about the US in the last 1800s compared with the British empire. The country was a total shit show with a depression every 5 years but because of the population size and natural wealth there was no way it wasn’t going to be the biggest in the world. The Chinese economy will have problems because they are producing consumer goods for the west so they would need to alter production somewhat to satisfy the local market, but they actually have savings and it isn’t that hard to redesign shoes or a plastic injecting factory compared to creating an entirely new one in a jurisdiction that operates at 3x the cost.

Their stock market is uninvestible right now because no one wants to hold their currency, but to think they’re fucked long term while we aren’t is idiotic

>>56875150
w/e cant buy this with crypto

>>56875159
>The country was a total shit show with a depression every 5 years but because of the population size and natural wealth there was no way it wasn’t going to be the biggest in the world.
ah, and because we exported the excess wealth. you also have to be trade partners with everybody.

>>56873979
>>U.S JOLTS JOB OPENINGS (OCT) ACTUAL: 8733K VS 9553K PREVIOUS; EST 9300K
IT
BEGINS

>>56875129
Wow. If I lived there I'd move all my money out of the country with crypto.

>>56875159
>but because of the population size
This is the the thing though. The US was going through massive population booms at the end of the 1800s. China's population is contracting.

>>56875100
so your saying in order to increase tax revenue, they have no choice but to move markets higher?

>>56875159
>but to think they’re fucked long term while we aren’t is idiotic
This is true. The same thing that is killing China will kill us.

>BAX
d-diamond hands.. still holding...

>>56874473
DAX 40 (lol) is literally getting carried by SAP and Siemens. Worst of all is SAP. This company should be at least 10-20% lower. They aren't even making much more money than last year despite AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI.

( >>56875241 )
>however MRK
>

>>56875041
What? For all or only thessaurierend/Accumulating?

>>56875134
Man if you're that fat and going to do the sweater+collard shirt at least wear a nice sweater.

>>56873417
Bought more if we crab for a while gonna deposit more and buy simple fucking as going big or going to kms.

>>56875100
AKTIENRENTE JUNGE, LINDNER WILL TASCHEN PUMPEN.

>>56875091
Her nose and body tells me she is a shiksa but her tits and tongue tells me she is jewess.
How can she min/max when she has her face pasted on live telly?!?!?!
She is like super pale and I can't help but want her to interview Lagarde next spring with my dried sourcream on her face.

HELP ME SAVEBROS HELP WHAY THE FUCK HAPPENED

>>56875196
>I'd move all my money out of the country with crypto.
that's the thing anon... you have to pay a tax on crypto gains too

AMD ai day tomorrow. Do what you will

>>56875345
>you have to pay a tax on crypto gains too
hehe.

to late for BITF?

>>56875340
Are you holding for the buyout?
Or were you just hoping someone would randomly keep bidding SAVE higher?

>>56875345

I'll give you a money cheat.
>Move to Cyprus
>Spend 2 months there
>You're now their tax citizen.
>0% capital gains tax, 12.5% corporate tax rate and 0% on dividends.
>???
>Profit

There you go.

>>56875159
China's population pyramid is irrevocably fucked. They physically cannot recover from the decades of One Child Policy and shaming of having children. Go away Zhen Wei Chao.

Ever since I started making breakfast sandwiches for lunch, my quality of life between the hours of 12 and 1 has improved immensely. American cheese truly is the best cheese.
Buy AVAV.

Don't mind me I'm just re-reslurping Oil (I sold my previous slurps at a profit earlier)

>>56875365

Looks like people realized that SAVE judgement isn't finalized. Must have been some bs news pushed out making it sound like it was over. Hope you all bought some cheap calls.

>>56875348
>AMD ai day tomorrow. Do what you will
think it will pump?

>>56875437
>amd AI day
>their tech is still years behind nvidia
>stock plummets
ftfy

>TTWO

>>56875443
did this happen in the past?

without further explanation,
this is the bottom for the 10y yield.

I regret not buying BTC.

>>56875429
>If the merger isn't approved, JetBlue has agreed to pay a $70 million fee to Spirit, plus an additional $400 million to its shareholders.
I hadn't seen this til today

>>56875159
This. China invests in factories and infrastructure while we invest in blacks and sex changes.
China will win

>>56874047
You will never be this comfy

>>56873583
we've all been watching the stock market dumbass. Its been a moot war as far as the economy goes. Otherwise there would be bobos making money.

>>56875646
>tax payer funded sterilization
based

>>56875684
>moot
who?

>>56873594
>reuters
lol

>>56875689
>adjective: Of no practical importance; irrelevant

In the context of the war its been a nothing burger. A kvetchable thing to garner adulation(more), support(more) & money(more).

Now on the redpill/Noticing front...its been stellar.

>>56875646
No, but seriously... Why the need to be such a shameless antisemite?

fellow save chuds whats going on here

>>56875689
oohh not that fag (moot). Subversive bastard.

>>56875744
>missing the joke and going on about jews being jews
what a disappointing place 4chinz is nowadays

>>56875345
>you have to pay a tax on crypto gains too
In no country is this the case. There might be a law saying so and compliance is very simple:
>Buy crypto
>"trade it" for nothing to your bitcoin-qt wallet
You now have no crypto (as far as they're concerned) and no gains but can invest the money as you wish.

>>56874762
I'M WINNING
YOU'RE LOSING

>>56875776
I just don't cherish nobody faggots. Fuck him.

Probably your last chance to get in on TVTX before 14$ rocket ship

>>56875773
Lots of calls were put in yesterday, they're being shaken out. Typical bs. It's back on the rise.

>>56873305
>not an helicopter on the upper left square

>>56875790
>bitcoin-qt
and how are you gonna cash out, anon?

>>56875790
>In no country is this the case.
US is every crypto trade for another crypto is a taxable event. Moving crypto isnt though. Not like they can easily catch you or even prove which wallets are yours. Some idiot on r*ddit gave all his tx to the accountant who gave it to the irs and now owes 50k on losses from 2020.

>>56875895
>Some idiot on r*ddit gave all his tx to the accountant who gave it to the irs
the redditor never ceases to amaze

>>56875868
You transfer it into a foreign bank via a foreign exchange.
Or just use a bitcoin ATM.
>>56875895
Well yeah if you launder your money then tell the government you did that you'll get in trouble. Obviously don't be retarded with it.

>>56875935
>Well yeah if you launder your money then tell the government you did that you'll get in trouble. Obviously don't be retarded with it.
Exactly. it amazes me out gullible some people are with the irs. When i actually cash out ill pay tax on it but ill make it up and say long term even if it isnt.

>>56875935
>You transfer it into a foreign bank via a foreign exchange.
>Or just use a bitcoin ATM.
>bro just commit tax fraud
kek ok anon

What the fuck is up with SHOT options liquidity? I thought people would be all over that?

>>56875987
Every time you have a garage sale and don't itemize your sales on your end of year tax return you commit 'tax fraud', nancy.

>>56876005
Oh shit fucking etrade put it in as a sell order.
Man I'm glad there was no liquidity now.

>>56876029
This. You can move your money around with cheese if you prefer.
The Canadians actually check people at the border near Wisconsin for clandestine cheese because they don't want people doing this.

Sorry to spam the thread but I felt like I should announce I'm taking profit on COIN and likely divesting the rest of my equity positions.

https://twitter.com/AlderLaneEggs

Threadly reminder that dividends are irrelevant. If you want a bit of cash from your stocks, you can sell some.

>>56876145
Probably a good choice

Which fucking retarded Indian at Morgan Stanely thought clearing the order form when you mouse over the stock symbol made sense?
I'd like to strangle him.

>>56875979
>I’ll just say it was long term which is a great idea because they won’t ask for the original purchase tx or look at the wallet that sent it to the exchange wallet if I get audited
You are retarded. #1 category that all that IRS money is going to will be upper middle class people reporting crypto

>>56875895
Unless you’re using monero you’re a complete idiot. It is completely transparent. All they have to do is ask kraken or coinbase all the exchange addresses associated with your account and they can figure out your cost basis and time period in 5 minutes.

>>56876213
I had them close my E*TRADE account when an Indian bitch told me I was going to have to do a conference call with all of my banks to prove my identity when I linked 3 external accounts (1 bank and 2 brokerages) for transferring from/to. When I call Schwab they announce what US city they are in when they answer and so far everyone knows their shit. I had already had to deal with my E*TRADE debit card disappearing from their system some random day.

SAVE SAVE SAVE

>>56876322
we are so back

Sell.

THATS IT
FUCK IT
IM DONE
100% VT AND CHILL

>>56876342
Back above the MA on the 15. Looking good after that dump. Similar to last week.

Can't you skeet shoot it down?

>>56875215
Every productive country is below tfr. The us importing retarded Central Americans (not going to continue forever) and Europe importing even more retarded Africans isn’t going to help living standards or the economy relative to Asian nations that just have shrinking populations. In 100 years china is going to have a larger population than the US and it (currently) isn’t saddled with 30% of its population being made up by blacks and Hispanics which have a negative lifetime economic contribution per capita greater than the value of the average house. The Chinese won’t innovate products, but unless they go camp of the saints too, they’ll be able to continue to export plastic shit to the rest of the world and consume more domestically per capita

>>56876357
>letting the third world be a drag on your US

>>56876412

>>56876428
You're absolutely right.
In 100 years I'll also be dead and won't care.
Also between here and there China will probably have another one of its insanely bloody cultural revolutions.

I want to profit from the modern advances being made with AI. I feel like normies and pseudo-normies like myself are late to the party and ready to start looking seriously at AI. What AI-focused stocks, ETFs, what-have-you should I be investing in?

I can't believe I made money on TUP.
>>56876536
INTC is my favorite AI stocks. I haven't sold it yet and might hang on for a bit.
Also the party is just getting started. Go grab a copy of GGML and the tinystories dataset and make some cool stuff.

>>56876536
Whichever company creates hardware that becomes a barrier to entry for other ai-based competition. Probably nvidia but I hope not. Think blue ray vs hd dvd if that is memorable for you.

>>56876536
just buy QLD whenever you have cash

>>56876508
>not having a blood boy so you can live to 130 and see your 100-year spite bet pay off
NGMI

>>56876536
VGT/XLK

>>56876611
I hate the idea of having a mixed race kid with an Asian and all the White women I know are promiscuous tattooed orcs.

>>56876276
>won’t ask for the original purchase tx or look at the wallet that sent it to the exchange wallet if I get audited
Sent it to the wrong address. Lol. Literally no way for the irs to legally prove a receiving wallet is mine.
>>56876304
>exchange addresses associated with your account
Literally only 1 wallet address i use with CEXs. Rest is sent off to other dexs and wallets.

You lazy smggers.

>>56876711
>Literally no way for the irs to legally prove a receiving wallet is mine.
This.
The reason you can't do this with banks is they can go call the bank the money went to and figure out who owns it. You don't have that with crypto.

new
>>56876743
>>56876743
>>56876743

if you would have to buy puts or calls now, which stock woulud you pick for tomorrow?

>>56876669
?
You hire a blood boy on the market like Thiel refuses to admit to doing. I don’t think having a mixed race kid with an Asian would be that big of a deal if she’s tall. Would be afraid of having a manlet hapa rage son with the average Asian qt though
>>56876711
The irs doesn’t play these games. They aren’t the DOJ. Ignorance is not an excuse. They won’t believe you and will draw out a civil suit that will cost more than admitting to the taxes you actually owe. Had a family member forced to settle under similar circumstances. The assigned agent explicitly said that the irs would lose the case in court, but it’s going to cost more in unreimbursible lawyers fees than settling. And afterwards you’re a heightened audit target for the rest of your life.

>>56875931
wish you wouldn't piss on my man varney like that vern.

>>56876791
>You hire a blood boy on the market like Thiel
I actually have no idea what you're talking about.