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>>56850421
Anon, I... https://www.economist.com/business/2023/11/30/meet-constellation-software-techs-berkshire-hathaway

stock market is closed on sunday, retards.

URANIUM

>>56850437
i don't care, i won't be shaken out

also Constellation Software has a publicly-traded floating rate debenture under the ticker CSU.DB that pays out 6.5% plus the prior 12m CPI, so it's basically an inflation-protected security that pays out a 6.5% real return. Due in 2040 but in theory can be called by the company with 5 years' notice.

assuming 2% CPI going forward (likely too low), you get 8.5% annual yield through 2040 assuming no call. Trades at about 30% premium to par, but you're still getting a low-mid 6% IRR and mid-high 6% yield on that, with a level of inflation protection on top

the reason it trades reasonably cheap is the call feature which, if exercised, nukes your return from 6% to 3%. CEO is too ethical a guy to rug his bondholders like that though, so they'll never call it.

>>56850408
>boring chart as the OP image
You can do better than that.

>>56850408
The gold shitco portfolio:
>TSXV / OTC / Germany
Nevada Exploration NGE.v / NVDEF / 28N0
Discovery Harbour DHR.v / DCHRF / 4GW0
Cortus Metals CRTS.v / CRTTF
Every turd, especially the dormant ones, will float to the top in a gold bull market. Multibaggers are found when nobody else is looking.

>>56850565
Backed by the Higgs brothers, Nevada Exploration (NGE.v / NVDEF / 28N0) holds a sprawling package of prospective greenfield gold properties in one of the most prolific gold producing areas on the planet -- Nevada. Following years of chasing anomalies in groundwater, Nevada Exploration has disposed of it's old leadership, cleaned up its share structure and is poised to enter the new gold bull run with a clean slate. Noted mining pundit Eric Coffin said Dennis Higgs "is a very good promoter and, yeah, knows where the bodies are buried when it comes to getting a market to move." When the market is ready, and, make no mistake, they will know, the Higgs brothers will pump Nevada Exploration to the moon.

>>56850444
Good time to plan out trades for tomorrow and this week though.

>>56850539
normal bakers was busy

>>56850565
Discovery Harbour Resources (DHR.v / DCHRF / 4GW0) is an explorer backed by mine builder Richard Gilliam, who founded Cumberland Resources which was ultimately bought out by Massey Energy for $960,000,000, and run by expert geologist Mark Fields. The company is currently in negotiations to acquire its new project. Indications are promising that Discovery Harbour is close to pulling off a major coup in the sector, as its share price has risen 80% in recent weeks. Gilliam owns a third of the company's shares and is poised to benefit from the tight share structure once it steps back in to the arena.

>>56850565
A company of the prolific Metals Group, Cortus Metals (CRTS.v / CRTTF) is a prospect generator with a juicy suite of strategically located gold prospects throughout northern Nevada. Cortus began publicly trading toward the end of the last gold bull run, but has suffered on account of arriving too late. The company has been preserving it's capital and laying low, ready to pounce once the inevitable flurry of chasers come looking for a project to lease from Cortus. Their projects include everything from drill-ready to Greenfield's, one of which has recently been joint ventured by a private mining firm. Priced right, Cortus is sure to be a multibaggers in the forthcoming bull market.

>>56850565
>>56850583
>>56850593
Buy an ad and stop spamming

>>56850539
I guess you are right, we could do better

>>56850539
Laughing at bears will always be entertaining.

I put my entire life savings into PFE calls Friday ama

>>56850645
Make sure to get and superspread COVID. It's your only chance.

when are chinese stocks going to recover

>>56850565
kill yourself

>Futures

>>56850673
When you sell. Just sell tomorrow and save us all.

>>56850732
I don't get it

>Futures

>>56850781
They're using the letters for their country of origin, Niger.

>Futures

>Futures

>>56850673
>China's state-owned capital operating company China Reform Holdings Corporation Ltd. will expand investments in the market each day next week, CSJ cites sources.

Bloomberg article on it: https://archive (dot) ph/s01bA

>>56850444
and? Weekends and evenings are for research anon.

>>56850877

Can you already see the futes? Where?

>>56850978
You can remotely sense pre-futures

>>56850998
So our guy on the line predicts faddas somersaults on the nifty50. How do I profit? Short Novo?

>Futures

>>56850978
https://www.ig.com/en/indices/markets-indices/weekend-wall-street
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/cryptocurrency/btcusd?iso=kraken&mod=search_symbol

The stock line looks like an EEG from someone having a seizure, I think America is in deep trouble

>health insurance companies make zero profits they are shell firms for the government to pass fiat through to create a jobs program, bonuses kickbacks dividends are all part of the same pool of government backdoor funding
>alphabet made openAI and were already beta testing openAI in the late 2000s on their youtube platform, spongebob youtube poops were a cover for generated AI videos, the vulgar language and stupid editing was targeted to internet NEETs and children/teenagers at a time when general public wouldn't care about them and youtube is coincidentally deleting old videos now that AI is mainstream
>microsoft had a critical bug from y2k fixes in previous windows that came back with windows vista, it caused the major performance hit issues and was the real cause, aero effects was an excuse, microsoft started cloud computing to try to fix this performance problem but its not going to be fixed, the time traveler poster with the IBM computer was real and was finding a solution to this problem

Is this week the moment for truth for SAVE sisters?

>>56851237
I fucking hope so. Charts look good. I need to make some quick money.

>>56851237
No... some anons said that this week is only the end of the courtroom proceedings. The judge will still take time to issue a verdict

>>56850732
lol is this real? did she really spell nigger on wheel of fortune

What do I buy for $1.5k a month? I'm thinking 25% V, 25% MA, 25% AAPL, 25% MSFT. I'll buy every month for the next 10 years. Come on, faggotiños, pick my pension account. My other account is SOXL weeklies kek

>>56851341
Or should I replace either MA or MSFT with google?

Why wouldn't Biden drop another SPR dump just to win the election?
I think oil is gonna dump to 60

>>56851354
ESGs are disappointing

>>56851354
it could

people are saying there is going to be a recession next year. should i take my 401k funds out of stocks and into cash?

>>56851341
just buy spy

>>56851384
We have been in one for well over a year now. Changing the definition does not all of a sudden make the economy change with it.

>>56851384
Inflation is gonna stay high, cash is gonna decay.

>>56851391
i don't care about definitions. should i take my money out of stocks?

>>56851406
>only now thinking about selling after the horrible last two years of both stocks and bonds never before seen in the entire history of the stock market

>>56851401
its so sad that Jews are going to destroy the currency of the world just so they can keep their positions of power

>>56851418
i barely started working a few years ago. i'm not sure what you're getting at anyway

>>56851401
They are wearing the goyim out with inflation to make the switch to CBDCs that much easier.b after that, every transaction globally will be traceable and taxable.

Actual inflation is 10% a month. Look at the prices.

>>56851384
Permadoomers have been spazzing out about recession for several quarters. Meanwhile last quarter was over 5% growth and this quarter is clocking in at between 1 and 2%, real.

Bail when: The 2y/10y yield spread zeroes out, initial jobless claims tick up above 300k, or the Federal reserve cuts more than 25 basis points in a meeting.

Check the volume.

>>56851487
Yeah, cause all current global commerce isn't traceable and taxable. Moron.

>>56851406
if you pay attention to economic news probably wait for the fed to start talking about a cut
bloomberg fags keep saying q2 next year for a recession but presidential election years have been historically good for the stock market so it is a bit of a toss up on how the market will perform next year

>>56850444
If you can’t get the stock market, be the stock market

>>56851504
>customer needs a new AC unit
>I offer to do it for cash
>they agree
>replace their AC
>They pay cash
>Government never knows the transaction happens
>don't pay a dime in taxes
I imagine someone has to tell you to breath or you'd suffocate

Final trading month in 2023. Hows everyones YTD looking? Im ok mostly from gbtc and msft.

>>56851554
Your issue isn't CBDCs, it's a cash ban. Which is an equally retarded schizo meme.

Baking!

>>56851612
Haha it's not time to bake silly goose! :P

>>56851487
>muh CBDCs
Stfu you boomer imbecile.
>>56851504
This

>>56850565
Rick Drule on inactive companies: (1/2) "You look for a high quality team of people or a sort of a mining house, a Discovery Group or somebody like that, and you look for their inactive company, the shell that they are reorganizing. It has no property in it. It has no active promotion. Nothing's going on. If you look at the price chart over the last two years, it has the trajectory of a brick thrown off a bridge. It's declined from 45 cents to 5 cents, but you see it start to flatten out, interestingly."

>>56851604
>Your issue isn't CBDCs, it's a cash ban.
That's the entire basis for CBDC's anon.

>>56851596
I'm up like 23% this year, though that's a rough calculation not factoring in the timing of purchases. I'd have to compute a full IRR for something more precise

>>56851596
My YTD if we retroactively add my subsequent deposits to my start-of-year portfolio is +502.84% ($1,957.03 to $11,797.67)

>>56850583
(2/2) "Nothing is going on, but the descent to zero stops. Maybe the officers and directors are loaning it some money to stay alive. This is an age old technique where you put money into the company on a shadow basis and you actually scare the market because they see themselves being behind your debt. Then all of a sudden you put a property in the company, convert the debt to equity (by the way, by Canadian law it becomes free trading equity, not restricted equity), and it's off to the races. There is a group of Canadian speculators who does nothing but look for inactive companies that are in the control of people who know how to make stocks go up."

>>56851661
>>56851684
dhr nge crts

>>56851666
No, they could stop printing bills or minting coins tomorrow, give you a 1 year window to turn those in to your local bank, and call that good. That's a cash ban (which they won't do because the elites need illegal aliens and other illegal transactions as much as commoners).

CBDC's are a hysterical illusion of boomers and schizoboomers who read a couple paragraphs about stablecoins.

>>56851645

>>56851707
Yeah, just like those plans to convert everyone to EVs lmao. When even China can't roll out a digital yuan, you know the idea's dead in the water.

>>56851671
Solid anon gj.
>>56851676
what is soley based on investment changes? if you can tell easily.

>>56851596
No better off then I was at the beginning of the year actually. No worse off either. Just a wasted year. Hopefully next year will be better.

>>56851726
>Yeah, just like those plans to convert everyone to EVs lmao
>he thinks they have given up on EVs and don't intend to limit your mobility
You are an innocent, naive, bb boy.

>>56851661
>>56851684
nge -- the Higgs bros
dhr -- Richard Gilliam
crts -- The Metals Group

>>56851773
>No worse off either. Just a wasted year.
I know that feeling. How i felt for most of the year. Still treading water is still progress and you should see it as that.

>>56851778
I get you want to ride Klaus Schwab's shriveled dick for the fun of it, but the bureaucracy, incompetence, and economic reality of the real world are much stronger limiting factors than you think.

I wonder what fuckery this week will bring

>>56851761
>what is soley based on investment changes?
It's what I said, I started the year at $557.03 but then I deposited another $1,400. So I gained $9,840.64 from trading alone.

>>56851805
>Named Jerome
>Is not black
>Visits HBCU
>Doesn't wear a dishiki or even a du-rag

>>56851814
ohhh nice. gj.

>>56851707
That other anon already broke you, nigger. Your money is already tracked. Cbdcs are a red herring for low IQ boomers like you.

>>56851761
>Solid anon gj.
Most of my money is in retirement accounts and funds that I don't really control directly.
Retirement accounts are only up 15%
Bogle accounts are up 27%
My gambling account is up 65% thanks to options, leveraged ETFs, and one stock (though the actual dollar value of this account is a lot lower than the others)
Again, these are rough and not factoring exact timing of purchases/deposits

>>56851707
does this mean like a nation based crypto currency?

>>56851850
When you use your credit card and have the balance deducted from your bank electronically come bill time, at no time did anybody actually exchange a physical dollar. So no not really. Just more of the same as it already is.
The physical manufacture of currency is literally a waste of money to issue.

>>56851842
nice. you can prob do better than funds these days but whatever works for you. i like stock picking. So far my roth ira is up 64% ytd and my rollover ira is roughly 50% but i just transfered it over in like march so its a little off on actual ytd.

>>56851879
so basically nothing changes bu libertarians are going to foam at the mouth again, got it

>>56851886
To be fair, payment processing is a racket and a hidden expense of sorts for consumers.

>>56851661
>>56851684
>Why NGE / NVDEF ?
The Higgs bros

>>56851897
>>56851897
luckily india's UPI is slowly coming

time to double my portfolio, again, on short-term bullish call options

feels good mang

>>56851490
probably more

>>56851596
My 401K is demolishing my taxed account. I'm only up 5% because I swapped from active trading to Bogleheading in June.

>>56851802
It's going to happen because you and everyone else won't do anything to stop it and they know that.

>>56851929
Nice job anon. gonna break that 6 fig account soon. probably will by end of month.

>>56851661
>>56851684
>Why DHR / DCHRF ?
Richard Gilliam

>>56851936
Well gosh, if it's a real problem and you're smart, clued in, and able to use Google Maps then I leave it in your capable hands.

>>56851979
Could you fuck off with your ban evading samefagging?

>>56851929
based boglechad brother

NIGGER

>>56851661
>>56851684
>Why CRTS / CRTTF ?
The Metals Group

thinking of selling my banking stonks

>>56852030
Wrap it up, boys. Post of the thread has been made.

>>56852019
I see a lot of straight up lines and then gradual declines in that chart...
Wtf kind of crap funds are you bogle "investing" into?

>>56852047
this is what it looks like when you invest each paycheck in a bear market

>>56852057
Why would you do that?
Don't do that

>>56852069
but it works
I had to pay off two of my student loans but I'm close to $50,000 now
and I'm getting 3% divys

My long term poorfolio is pretty much 50% tech 50% oil. Someone told me that is weird because they typically perform opposite to eachother. Is this true? Am I retarded?

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTuD8k3JvxQ&t=42s

>>56852057
>just time the market perfectly bro! Only buy at the exact bottom bro!

>>56852167
except no one can tell you where the bottom is because it's going up and down like a yo-yo

>>56852167
Meant for
>>56852069

>>56852163
>50% tech 50% oil.
Based af. We're literally the same person.

>>56852186
Yes but are we retarded or not?

Threadly reminder that Market =/= Economy. The Fed's job is to force nominal growth at almost any cost as nominal growth allows risk free capital return, this is the mechanism behind oligarchical parasitism. Earnings ratios have ballooned over the decades from monetary expansion, not declining rates, declining rates were merely the vehicle for monetary expansion. Real rates are always negative to zero under debt based fiat, 2022 was the bottom, all the money printed during the scamdemic is still here, earning 5% interest (printed into existence through deficit spending), waiting to flow back larger than ever
>Graph note: The Fed stopped reporting Institutional Money Market Funds as a separate series in 2020, hence ((Total MMF/1000)-Retail MMF's) as Total MMF's is given in millions of millions instead of thousands of billions and Retail is already included in m2

>>56852163
Dont think so but why oil? You can get decent divy/payouts now in bonds without the risk of opec doing something.

>>56852047
You create your own "chad new fad" and eventually get rewarded with a "new paradigm"

why are stocks that don't pay dividend even worth anything?

>>56852208
Only if you guys are unleveraged. 50% TQQQ, 50% NRGU will dominate the next decade.

>>56852275
Because they still represent a claim on cash, assets, and future cashflows of that company.

Reminder that divvies are almost always a red herring, a forced sale, a non-consensual taxable event.

This guy didn't break any laws.
Why was he arrested?

>>56852286
>why oil
I bought oil only a couple years back and its up 120%

>>56852208
On the contrary we are high IQ.

>>56852302
>Prosecutors said Hwang and Halligan “repeatedly made materially false and misleading statements about Archegos’s portfolio of securities to numerous leading global investment banks and brokerages,” which encouraged them to trade with and extend credit to Archegos, the government said.
Yeah it's fraud

>>56852302
Legal and stock market expert Taylor Swift summarized it best when she said "Haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate"

>>56852302
>>56852337
Wasnt it all over some stock like viacom or something in legacy media too? whole thing was for like at most a 10% gain or something on some dumpy stock which hasnt recovered anyway. He would have done better if he had just bought a tech giga cap.

>>56852337
Yeah but that's not true. Nothing he did actively broke the law. It was just a case of "he abused the system and lost rich people money".

>>56852275
Equity is proportional ownership of a company, as >>56852299 said (and checked), divies are just a forced sale with tax drag

>>56852350
>Nothing he did actively broke the law.
>repeatedly made materially false and misleading statements about Archegos’s portfolio of securities to numerous leading global investment banks and brokerages
That's criminal fraud.

>>56852361
>we are leveraged to the tits
>how do you think I got 1000x returns in a year
>"wtf you didn't tell us you were so leveraged and now we lost all our money you misled us!"
>convicted

>>56850408
You guys are landlords. Some of you are renters. Do you think my landlord gets pissed when I'm habitually a day late? I usually pay rent on the 1st but I only get paid bi weekly, so I'm often unsure what I'm going to get for pay and end up having to scrounge together an extra $100 or $200 overnight and it gets paid on the 2nd.

I'm just being paranoid but you guys are my non-friends and this isn't a question for my friends. I realize the answer is to "just make more money" but we're all workin' on it. Am I being paranoid? Love.

>>56852212
my underlying thesis is that inflation is still high but the government is lying about it. I just don't know how to play it with inflation being 6+% y/y but the government saying 3%. My proof: everyone looks like miserable walking zombies these days. I guess I could go long gold but that is such a boomer play.

>>56852384
Yes. That is what criminal fraud is.

There are low T faggots on /smg/ that think women are equal to men.

>>56852386
Living paycheck to paycheck will always end up with debt you can't afford. You need a couple months of expenses saved up. Your landlord knows you are unreliable, but I can't tell if he's pissed all the way from over here.

>>56852406
That's true, women are vastly more worthy (of my dick)

>>56852416
Women only deserve dick and nothing else

>>56852397
Nah. It was all visible for everyone to see and people were even commenting about it. Anyone who didn't like it could have withdrawn their money.
All this is is the super rich Jews pissed off that some guy lost them some of their fortunes and they wanted blood. This is like trying to hunt down David SOXL because his stock went down. His financials were always public knowledge and you could read them throughout 2020.

>>56852397
He can make it all back though. You just gotta lend him another billion. Come on, bro.

>>56852432
There's no legal defense in 'we were blatantly breaking the law and everyone knew'. The only thing that matters is what financial materials they procided to investors.

Good.

>>56852413
What if I've been here for 7 years? I always seem to come up with rent by the second day of the month at the latest. Do you think he knows I have most of my money in the stock market? I know you can't tell if he's pissed from all the way over there, but I wonder if he thinks I'm "unreliable." I'm definitely riding the line here. And as financial conditions worsen, that may become a quandary.

Anyway, thanks. I'll keep my feelers.

>>56852286
>NRGU
Why NRGU over GUSH? My barely half assed research indicates better action in GUSH even with 2 rather than 3 x but if I'm seeing wrongly I'd like to fix that. I found the same apparent thing when comparing the Micro Sectors and Direxion gold ETFs. The MS 3x gold one moves like molasses.

>>56852473
I don't get what part it is they broke the law if they disclosed all the information and it was all within guidelines and regulations.

it's sunday, post cute and elegant anime girls

>>56852497
>disclosed all the information and it was all within guidelines and regulations.
It wasn't, that's the fraud.

>>56852479
Does he have to shake you down for the money? If he hasn't mentioned anything he probably doesn't care. Landlords WILL let you know when they are slightly annoyed by anything as early as possible. Just don't cause any extra work for the guy.

>>56852525
This is my wife.

>>56852525
The best I can do is AI girls

>>56852389
>my underlying thesis is that inflation is still high but the government is lying about it.
there's some fucky bullshit with medical costs since the pandemic that is keeping it artificially low

>>56852497
Because he lost Jews money and that’s illegal, the other anon is an NPC that can’t even process the point

>>56852525
>mfw futures

>>56852495
GUSHing grannies do well too. I just figure you might prefer Big Oil for stability over an entire decade.

>>56852536
Nah. But his management company sends me an automatic late payment reminder email, sometimes, by midday on the 1st or on the 2nd. It's very, very rare. But I don't ignore it.

I want other Chads to learn from my mistakes, because I think in this current era, the "automatic late rent payment notification email" is actually the signal that you're pissing them off.

He's never had to shake me down but I don't think that's necessary anymore. Chads could miss a rent payment by three days, ignore an email notification, and then get an eviction notice, legally.

Thinking about throwing my savings into two Vanguard ETFs. I'm going with VOO as my first pick but what should be my second out of these options

VYN
VGT
VNQ
VPU

I miss him so much bros...

>>56852386
Rent from my tenants is due the 1st,but not late until the 6th. One day late doesn't bother me. Paying after the 10th does bother me.

Happy Bitcoin 40k Day

Holy FUCK check the pre-futures it's literally over.

>>56852675
That is very valuable advice. Because I know my rights... But I also know yours. Varies state by state of course

Holy CRAP check the post-pasts we're figuratively, metaphorically, literally, paradoxically, ironically back!

>>56852710
why did i look... i was having such a nice sunday

>futures

>>56852639
>not VTI or VT

In sha2 allah we get an Oil gap up

>>56850408
You guys *do* own stock in RTX, right?

>futures

gold bros rise up

It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4pZFsEdP3Y

>>56853025
InshaAllah we'll get a SPR dump and it'll hit 60 again

>>56853026 Why would you do that? It's been an awful year for the MIC. Only BA is doing well, and they'll likely find a way to screw it up next year.

>>56853125
Drones is the future, sonny. AVAV and KTOS.

>>56853018
>>56852639
My $80k Roth is:
85% VWENX
5% VTV
5% VBR
5% JEPI

Tomorrow I'm going to rotate to VT.

My $240k 401k is:
100% VTIVX

>>56852639
I forgot to ask, what type of account is this?

>>56853123
No, Biden is trying to refill a bit now, the SPR dump comes soon before the election so he can say "see? Bidenomics!"

They are not done jewing
NATGAS
>NATGAS
NATGAS

>>56853174
When the BOIL bhenchods get bombastic the Kold Kang Klan breaks it up.

>>56853200
KEK! Definitely took my ass a breddy gud heeming!

>>56853112

>>56853163
So I'm new to this game so if your question is what I think you are asking I'm using a Chase self directed account. If that wasn't your question please elaborate.

>>56853240
He probably means whether it's your standard taxable brokerage account or an IRA or a Roth IRA or maybe your work's 401(k). Each has different goals and limitations.

SOXL bros, it's over.

>futures

>>56853112
So we're going full Weimar aren't we? Gold is frontrunning inflation isn't it?

Okay hear me out, what if the gold boomers aren't actually at all time highs? Rather the inflation experienced over the last 3 years(~30%) has devalued dollars so much they think they're doing well. Inflation isn't going down so maybe they're right anyway, even worse they might be early on a good trade.

You niggers should have listened, but no ... muh SOXL, muh FAGMAN ...
THERE IS ONLY ONE MONEY OF KANGZ !!!

>>56853359
...why is she eating spaghetti?

The gold shitco portfolio:
>TSXV / OTC / Germany
Nevada Exploration NGE.v / NVDEF / 28N0
Discovery Harbour DHR.v / DCHRF / 4GW0
Cortus Metals CRTS.v / CRTTF
GET THE FUCK IN HERE NOW !!!

>>56853370
Yeah, I doubted but holy shit what a fuckin run up.

holy fuck I looked away and gold is up another 1%

>>56853403
You're on a date, what else are you supposed to be eating?

>>56853125
GD makes sense here because the US is about to have another USS Cole

>there is one jeet anon in the thread using 3 IPs to shill "gold" and "junior gold mining stock shitcos" when there are two other generals dedicated to just that
Bayhorse anon you really are just a piece of shit haha. Its unreal.

>>56853359
Pretty much. But this current upswing is sussing out the Fed's inevitable cuts in the face of a clownshoes deficit, which means good odds of it soon hitting a (real) ATH.

Pretty much the only thing slowing it down at this point is competition from crypto.

>>56853018
I do not want my boomerfolio to have exposure to all the shitcos that collect at the bottom of the market or chink stocks

>>56852525
wholesome

>>56853461
Stfu kike
/Cmmg is archived
/Pmg doesn't do stawks
I BOUGHT MY MOTHER FUCKING TICKET

>>56853461
yes we're colluding to manipulate a 13T market anon

>>56853527
>13T market
he's talking about the worthless junior shitcos you're shilling you dumbass pajeet spammer

>>56853240
What this guy said:
>>56853277

There is different tax concerns, and usually goals depending on the type of account.

>the bitcoin etf is officially going live Jan 5 to Jan 10th
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/12/02/mark-your-calendars-date-revealed-as-huge-17-trillion-bitcoin-etf-countdown-sudden-begins-heralding-ethereum-xrp-and-crypto-price-chaos/?sh=6d3d2b116950

>>56853589
>could've invested in BTC
>invested in S&P instead
...

>>56853589
I told everyone that Gary would kick the can as long as possible: https://twitter.com/JSeyff/status/1730606890319532389

>>56853556

>>56853635
>>56853636
I'm wondering if I try to throw some money in, just for the sole reason of avoiding all the bullshit with exchanges

>>56853286
We're reaching 24.50 by the end of the two weeks.

>>56853657
If you're up for an extra profitable gamble, GBTC is still like 10% below NAV and probably converting to an ETF (which should 0 out the gap). Otherwise the sheer fact that you and a thousand other boomers don't want to bother with exchanges is why ETF approval is gonna ramp the price.

1st for SQQQ

>>56853727
Considering the Mag7 imbalance, I wonder if FNGD wouldn't be the superior play short term.

Stock futures Pee Pee on Poo Poo. -CNBC

>futures

I have $50k in bitfarms, Lord flying spaghetti help me! What the fuck do I buy if I sell next week? Tqqq?

Gold? GOLD.

>>56853123
have you even opened a news site today?

>>56853458
Do they even have Italian style noodles in Japan?

>>56853588
It's an individual brokerage account

someone rear ended me, then ran when i pulled off to a side street. i have a clear shot of their license plate.
financially speaking, how do i profit from this?

>>56853947
Other than the whole S&P 500 where do you think is a good place to get some return on your money? An individual sector? Emerging markets? A type of stocks, like growth or value?

>>56853958
Sue for emotional damage. Worked for David Boreanaz.

>>56853854

>>56853958
In case instructions were unclear, go directly to a lawyer for the perpetrator hurting your feelings.

>>56854005
Is this the best Scifi series of all time?

>>56853854
fakeout breakout again. will crash for the next few months

>futures

>>56854037
Yes.

>>56853636
Based Cathie being earliest, might buy some ARKK.

>>56853958

>>56854117
I think ARKW is her designated shitcoining ETF.

>>56853989
Uh I'm going to be honest with you, I 'm a brainlet. All I know/speculate is ETFs are relatively safe, real estate ETFs might work best for risk adverse investments but tech might have the highest rewards.

holy shit /gold/ bros. wagmi

Ummm, bros? You told me this was impossible. You told me the government would never allow it.

so you gonna buy any gold miners now, smiggers? just askin'.

>futures

>>56854214
The New York Fed has diversified and now runs on CP time. Expect the market to be slammed down around 10:30 AM.

>>56854214
>delayed
we're back to $2100 now

>>56854150
Yep, that's about the way I've seen it. Last I checked COIN was the top holding in fact.

>>56854216
No, because I don't know anything about gold and little about geology in general. Also, as a personal rule, I don't buy anything shilled in /smg/.

>>56854201
Okay how about something like:
60% VOO
20% VGT
20% VNQ

Feel free to roll your own. It's your portfolio. If you wanted someone else's portfolio, you'd just pick a mutual fund (with low turnover because you have a taxable account).

Each of those 3 will loose value in a recession. Be prepared for that. And don't sell if they drop (unless you have a plan of where to go with that money, and cash is not the answer).

>>56854216
no. i've been holding GLD for 7 years or so. gonna start selling it now.

>>56854257
And #2 is fucking ROKU kek https://cathiesark.com/arkw/complete-holdings

>>56854055
Look at all the niggers running away,
'Cos the golden bull is here to stay!

What do you call this pattern?

>>56854284

>>56854216
Nah, it's already falling back a lot, the poomp power was substantially fake and gay. I'll stick to my original plan of buying some DUST and JDST.

>>56854216
suck my nuts minegger

>>56854293
kek! dead on.

>>56854293
>>56854294
Cope.
The chinks haven't even opened yet.

>>56854284
Looks like a textbook .618 fib retrace, assuming that 2100 level holds.

>>56853691
What about SPBC?

>>56854263
Thanks Anon,

>>56854321
>Looks like a textbook .618 fib retrace

>>56852275
because they are partial ownership of a company that is worth something.
when it operates, it makes money. the earnings it retains it will then invest in itself instead of return to you, to engage in furthering its goals, so that later each dollar of revenue it earns will result in even more of those earnings than before.
when it can no longer grow, then it might start returning some of those earnings to you.
many stocks that don't pay a dividend are not worth anything, but this describes the ones that are worth something, that have value.
you can still make money with the ones that are not worth anything (usually because they lose money every single day) but the problem there is you have to find a greater fool to sell them to later. they are also often very good at making themselves look like they are actually worth something when they are not, so there are varying degrees of fools you'll need to find, and be yourself, to trade these to a successful result.

>>56854323
Simplify's great but why the fuck did they make that?

>The Simplify US Equity PLUS GBTC ETF (SPBC) investment objective seeks to provide capital appreciation by providing an efficient way for asset allocators to add Bitcoin exposure to portfolios. The fund targets a 100% investment in the US equities while simultaneously providing a 10% exposure to Bitcoin via the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC).

>The fund provides operational simplicity for investors by actively managing rebalancing of the Bitcoin allocation as well as premium/discount dynamics of GBTC. The ETF wrapper provides compelling efficiencies including transparency, liquidity, tax efficiency*, and no K-1’s.

OK I guess it's good if you're running a hedge fund and want a literally zero effort way to beat your benchmark. But GBTC's main limitation is just illiquidity; that's not a problem for anyone here.

>>56854335
With no fundamental value, price action boils down to hype, flows, and TA voodoo.

>>56851929
if it stays that way a couple years, you should stop doing anything with your taxable account. put it all in municipal bonds. they're not taxed.

>>56854356
Honestly,I can't trade gbct because interactive brokers doesn't ley me buy it, so I guess I should just throw my 7k into SPBC? I want to make it bro, and I'm a brainlet.

Gold bros... its over

>>56853359
>Okay hear me out, what if the gold boomers aren't actually at all time highs?
If we get another 50% move like in 2019-2020, gold goes to $3000.

>>56854409
i appreciate your constant concern trolling and not ever posting anything else

>>56854407
Well they should let you at least buy BITO. That's a BTC futures ETF so it'll track the price but jews you out of a couple % a year in expense ratio and doesn't have that below-NAV sweetener. There's also miners (MARA, RIOT, CLSK, HUT, HIVE, BTBT) if you're a leverage loving degen.

total us tax revenue
>$4.4 trillion
interest payments on the us debt
$1.1 trillion
we're spending more than 34% on debt payments than our military

>>56854294
sorry what are you talking about? 15 minutes worth of price data?
are you fucking retarded?
just say "no, not for me" instead of revealing permanently impaired mental function

>>56854409
> $2.1k accepted
I think not

>>56854441
Don't worry, we'll be able to pay everything off once we annex Venezuela.

>>56854352
>thinks he owns part of a company
>they don't pay him a portion of the profits

>>56854307
nah that's not me. i'm glowing rocks retard

>If I keep switching IDs and post random Gold shit someone will buy my bankrupt scam mining company stock!
>nooooo why aren't they buying!

Look at this dude; Robs a bank by just fucking stuffing over 200k into a bag and walking out with it. Ends up living a full life and dying at home. I'm not advocating this but damn shat was so much easier back in the day. https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/03/us/thomas-randele-ted-conrad-bank-robber-confession-cec/index.html

>>56854462
it's just interesting, there's only 1 (one) mining pajeet and he spams the same thing at the beginning of the thread

Uh, NVDAbros...

>Raimondo said American companies will need to adapt to US national security priorities, including export controls that her department has placed on semiconductor exports.

>“I know there are CEOs of chip companies in this audience who were a little cranky with me when I did that because you’re losing revenue,” she said. “Such is life. Protecting our national security matters more than short-term revenue.”

>Raimondo called out Nvidia Corp., which designed chips specifically for the Chinese market after the US imposed its initial round of curbs in October 2022.

>“If you redesign a chip around a particular cut line that enables them to do AI, I’m going to control it the very next day,” Raimondo said.
-https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/raimondo-says-commerce-needs-more-money-to-halt-china-chip-drive-1.2006297

>>56854457
yeah listen sorry "dividend general" didn't work out for you, that's because it's a stupid idea, but the facts about equities stand. you own a fraction of the company as a non-controlling interest. among other things, when you sell calls on your shares and get assigned, you personally pay the buyer the dividend that you would have been entitled to. you are an owner. act like one.

>>56854442
>get smug over a little opening poomp
>viagra wears off minutes later
>fall back to zoom outs

>>56854474
>daughter can barely bring herself to help her dying dad because he robbed a bank 50 years ago. She doesn't even see him as much because "da lies".
>he dies and she immediately makes it all about her trauma at discovering this, trying to bring down all his friends that helped him get out of this before they die of old age so she can get some fame
Anons, what the fuck is wrong with women?

>>56854462
>>56854475
Show white hands, niggers.

>>56854494
Nice propaganda but you're just goombling on ponzis, you buy and hope others buy on top of you, simple as. You sell ooptions and hope a combination of markets move in your favor and against the others who bought it.

>>56854493
didnt nvda say in their last earnings that they expect the rest of their sales growth to cover the lack of sales to china ? nvda will stop growing like a giga niggger on giga crack and maybe more like a giga nigger on regular crack

>>56854493
The real kicker is that these companies will have to fire like 80% of their employees, divest their overseas manufacturing sites, and find new CEOs that aren't *literally* on the CCP payroll. It's fucking OVER for SOXLtrannies.

>>56854545
Yeah, and really that just means they'll divert those workaround engineering resources to regular "push the limits" kind of work. And those top of the line boards are what'll get smuggled into China.

>>56854434
Nope, no BITO either. What do you recommend, my brother.

>>56854529
this cope will keep you poor forever.

>>56854512
m-multiple people can't talk about the same thing t-they have to be spammers because.. they just have to okay?!

>>56854434
Talking about MARA, what about MSTR? I've never done leverage, so I think I should buy low and sell high to make it. I only have 7k

>>56854512

>>56854571
Christ, alright. Uh, MSTR. Go with that.

>>56854590
Chart it vs BTC for the last few months on TradingView or MarketWatch or your broker or whatever. MSTR *should* correlate decently, but if not, or your broker doesn't even allow that, then COIN is your last option.

>>56854596
Haha! I can buy MSTR. So, I want to thanks you very much for your continued response, I really appreciate it, anon <3

>>56854216
Nah Gold is too manipulated, I've holding some adjacent metals though.

>>56854596
>>56854610
I don't know anything about MSTR other then that they are now basically a BTC trust.

>>56853356

>>56854622
MSTR or COIN? or do I go 50/50?

>gold

I'm liking the mix of dogshit ticker shilling and doomerism. This shit is going to run.

>>56854622
Exactly. It's a dude's dot-com-bubble-survivor company that in 2020 he started allocating its cash reserves to BTC. Then taking out loans to double down. It won't be converted to an ETF but it's a pile of BTC you can gamble on and behaves as such (since the underlying business is relatively tiny).

>>56854369
excellent post
screencapped

>>56854595
>based bro

If you want to buy pm related stocks, please avoid shitcos. Junior miners on NYSE are fine. Avoid OTC. If you buy physical always buy Asahi ok?

>>56854635
WHAT
IS
>this shit

>>56854679
I only buy ASE/AGE so if I travel I can claim "I only have $500 in coins"

>>56852389
in all likelihood it's a foregone conclusion that a next wave of huge price inflation is going to hit eventually. inflation might be in a "disinflation" stage but very unlikely that it will turn negative.
so inflation moves in waves, but never below zero.

also i can not fathom how experts and the Fed can say that "inflation has been running too low for too long" with a straight face while indices and housing has quadrupled over the past two decades as well as everything else been getting more expensive and/or more smaller.

>>56854625
Don't worry they can just use the underwater debt as collateral to borrow what they need lol

>>56854693
I'm sorry but I need to larp as a Samurai pirate.

>>56854679
>please avoid shitcos
If you want max gains in a gold bull run, shitcos have historically provided the greatest increase. It's easier for a shitco to go from 1M to 10M mc than for a goodco to go from 500M to 5B mc.

>300 posts
>no mention of hawaiian airlines
Do none of you read the news?
Bullish for SAVE too

>Futures

>>56854625
ignore the banks goy, just buy because the green bar is going up

>>56854848
>>56854848

>>56854830
A little early...

>>56854689

>>56854808
$18 a share can't be right. HA closed at $4.86 on Friday.

Do you lads invest in a lot of stocks or one/handful?

Could next thread have the rule #1 be no shilling junior gold miners. That way we can all report his post for being off topic?

>>56850650
I'm shorting it so we'll see who wins

>>56853556
He's right though

He even said they are shitcos
Low mcap shitcos will 10-15x in this market

>>56854216
Benton resources

>>56854558
Oh yeah, I'm sure all these companies are gonna die. They're gonna stop making profits and lose everything in a quarter. No, you're wrong.

The only one who can do this is JPowell. The only thing that can do this is CPI on December 12th.

>>56853461
>The glowlerposter calling the minerjeet black.
Self-awareness is a wonderful thing.

Is IONQ a good buy? I bought a few shares.