/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56829801
I really don't know

Bunch of assholes

>>56829801
post paw, bobo

>>56829801
anon they are an actual cult

>>56829801
its actually a cult. go listen to gongo george for 20 mins but this time realize btc is actually just like tulips. it'll be $3 by 2030 and you'll realize how obvious it is. imagine not opening a short around 300k to ride all the way down.

>>56830043
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>>56830068
Kys nufags
>>56829801
If there weren’t any alts btc would be like $150k+ easy. All alts are also total bullshit and do nothing, with the exception of Hbar. Everything and I mean everything, is dogshit. Btc will remain a store of inflation proof value, Hedera provides the rails for the new financial system

>>56830086
>If there weren’t any alts btc would be like $150k+ easy
What does the bitcoin price and bitcoin itself has to do with bitcoin maxis?

>>56830086
>750b mcap
>orange ponzi coin
my literal dream is my token to go to even 40b mcap and it actually does stuff/backed by devs and revenue

>>56830086
See this is what I am talking about
>Barges in
>tells people to kill themselves
And he is not even a true maxi since he also holds hbar. A real maxi is even more hostile.

>>56830043
This
>>56830086
Case in Point
>if you did not buy anything MY bags would be higher
No shit
People are sick of pumping the mega bags of some retarded 2021 oldfags

>>56830166
>2021
2012 i mean
Max Kaiser for example
Why should newfags continue to finance these guys a luxury livestyle

>>56830148
>barges in
Lmao I typed a post, the real question is why does truth rattle you?
>>56830119
>>56830119
All alts do nothing. A small percentage of you midwits will make money, most will lose, and all of this should have just been invested in btc.

>>56830207
>and all of this should have just been invested in btc
Im up almost x100 in crypto, if i would have bought Bitcoin it would have been x4

>>56829801
They know ETH or some other coin will flip btc. Btc is only number 1 because it had the first mover advantage.

>>56829801
They have values while you're just some nihilistic gambling zoomer pleb? so it is a bit confusing for you to encounter people who got into crypto due to caring about other things, many of whom already had a frame of reference for understanding it because they do things like actually read books. They act condescending about it towards you which pisses you off, so you project your anger onto them when really they enjoy their position immensely and so are more likely to pity you.

>>56830166
>my bags
No you stupid nigger. OUR bags. And for me they aren’t even bags, it’s called wealth. If you applied this argument in 2017, where would you be? You’re applying this argument now, imagine another 10 years from now. None of your shitcoins will last that long and the vast majority of you will lose money. I’m telling you the future: it’s btc and hbar. You’d think I’d receive gratitude, but like Davinci, none of you listen.

>>56830220
It ain’t real until you cash it in (pro tip: they never do and one day the project and their wealth vanishes)

>>56830207
wait wait wait...
so youre telling me anyone can mint an erc20 and it has virtually the same properties as btc? unstoppable, sendable anywhere, permissionless, pseudoanonymously (behind a handle/address), all backed by the guarantee of ethereum which hasn't fucked up yet in like 6 years
not even mentioning it can also be sold under all the above conditions above unlike btc
or used as collateral for a loan unlike btc
explain to me again how link isn't just the exact same thing as btc PLUS has a more aggressive deflationary release rate (no new link tokens will ever be minted), PLUS is backed by a revenue generating product which funnels rewards to said token. and youre telling me btc 750b mcap makes sense. hm

>>56830260
>OUR bags
I dont hold Bitcoin at the Moment, so dont speak for me. But yes if eth/btc is better again i will buy some.
Also stop shilling your inflationary shitcoin scam
>>56830271
Cashed out 20% of it way more i would have gotten with Bitcoin.

>>56830260
>I’d receive gratitude
For telling people to kys?

>>56830345
>didn’t grasp that our bags referred to a world where bullshit alt coins don’t exist
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>>56830345
>eth bro
Lol.
Pearls before swine. Cap this post. You were warned.

>>56830416
>bullshit alt coins
Monero is in every way superior to Bitcoin

>>56830627
take your meds schizo

>>56830745
Great arguments

>>56829801
Because we're well aware that shitcoin niggers are destroying the reputation of Bitcoin by comparing their Ponzis constantly to Bitcoin and claiming to be an improvement, whereas they are all 100% premined Ponzi schemes designed to enrich their founders.

We are onto your grift, and so is the SEC now.

>>56830918
>we are on the team usa government
2013 bitcoiners are crying

>>56831321
what if its because bullish btc posts are by the military pentagon looking for exit liquidity for Ulbrichts coins

>>56831321
>if you point out that the government exists and has certain laws it will enforce, that means you're cheer leading for them.
low IQ reactionary seethe cope. Bitcoin did things the right way and the anti-fragile way, shitcoins did things the high time preference scammy way, bitcoiners have a track record of explaining the difference and the possible consequences which shitcoiners ignored. You're just hating the vindicated messenger because we don't stoop so low as to engage in apologia for shitcoiners who already decided to resent us long long ago.

>>56831375
Some maybe, but mostly these Bitcoin maxis are real unpaid people
>>56831405
I love Bitcoin but hate its Maxis. I think thats consense at least under Ethereum Maxis.
Then please explain to me what Bitcoin can do better then Monero

>>56830086
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>>56830309
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>>56831405

Based thread. The answer is so obvious it’s right in front of our faces. Just buy and hold bitcoin. It is the most supreme asset class that’s ever existed, and will directly move against all other devaluing currencies and inferior commodities that have a higher friction to hold. It’s so fucking simple. Took me years to finally realize it and not chase short term gas bubbles we call alt coins.

>>56829801
Because bitcoin takes a lot of effort to explain, and it just gets tiring. So it becomes reducing it down to the minimum, terse words, and it rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Maxi’s don’t have time to orange pill everyone. Actually, one can truly only orange pill themselves; it takes a significant amount of self-reflection to arrive at the maxi mindset. Bitcoin is about the masses and getting the minimal word out to as many as possible.

>>56829801
angry? headed towards +300% in a year before the ETF even approved, can't figure out why I should be angry there

>>56831483
>please explain to me what Bitcoin can do better then Monero

make you money

>>56829801
because you keep shitting on them when they've been telling you for 14 years that the only use case for a blockchain is storing and transfering value but shitcoiners pretend like there is mor to it and it's just around the corner/soon^tm that all the companies/corporations/enterprises will start using their flavor of the month blockchain/shitcoin premined by some asshole that can rug your ass or print more coins whenever they want

>>56829801
It's because they're spiritual niggers, anon.

>>56831886
Case in point. Even their pepes look like pavement apes shucking and jiving. Niggers.

>>56831826
this
when you have that "wake up" moment you realize most normies and even most autists here can't be helped, they will buy btc from BlackCock etf when it's 100k, it's so obvious yet most people just don't see it or don't believe it, they think they are smarter by searching for some obscure shitcoin that will finally give them the 100x to financial freedom but 99.99 % of them will lose most of their money because a 5-10x with btc isn't enough for them within 2-5 years, buying bitcoin with low leverage is still smarter than gambling on shitcoins

>>56831855
this, I'm no longer surprised Saylor uses comparisons like 'encrypted energy protected by cyberhornets' and posting boomer memes, he knows most people will just wave it off as some crazy billionaire's technobabble and the glorious bastard probably enjoys that fact immensly, stupid people just don't deserve to be orangepilled

>>56831855
>>56832031
WAOW LET ME GET MY HECKIN 5X!!!!! Fucking boomercucks

>>56830068
Good luck faggot

>>56831916
>he doesn't shuck and jive

>>56832031
Exactly.

Bitcoin is going to the MOON and there's nothing anyone can do about it. At the very least it is the EASIEST 3X on earth right now. No one can convince me otherwise. If you don't know why you just don't know and no one's gonna help you anymore. I stopped engaging with stupidity, when I see bears I just laugh. Bitcoin is finally getting the recognition some of us here used to dream of. A tsunami of capital is coming in with the ETFs which are a done deal. Then we have the halving hype and potential rate cuts next summer which adds liquidity and risk appetite in the financial markets. No one expects another El Salvador or MicroStrategy until it happens. I believe it will, because bitcoin is undoubtedly the hardest asset in the world and people are waking up to it. None of this is priced in. When the free floating supply is less than 10 million a price of $38K per unit is severely underpriced given all the stars that are aligning. This might be one of the best setups in bitcoin history. Bobos r fuk. Stay bullish.

>>56831886
Great post. The ONLY use for a blockchain is as a truly decentralised store of value. If it isn't truly decentralised (like shitcoins aren't) then it's inferior to tradfi tech already. Blockchain technology is inherently slow and inefficient compared to centralised tradfi tech, there isn't anything in the entire crypto space that has a long term future in finance other than Bitcoin.

>>56832043
You have a point, but not the one you think. If you are trying to maximize gains, yes, you can play with alts, but it is a lot riskier and takes more effort. It is NOT something the masses are prepared to do, though. The least risky is just buy and hold bitcoin.

Now your comment about the 5x gain could mean you haven’t thought about it enough. One, the time horizon you are thinking about it way to small for bitcoin (but valid if you know how to play alts—maybe*), but worrying about the usd price of bitcoin shows either you haven’t truly orange pilled yourself yet OR you are in it to maximize short term gains and I wish you luck.
* protip: when playing alts, the ONLY metric that matters is how that alt is performing against btc and not usd.

>>56830271
I've cashed out my initial investment multiple times just in case + cashed out a shitload just for taxes. I think I'm good!

>>56829801
>at
Because all you can do with corn is hodl. Whereas for other coins, especially in EVM chains and defi, there are quite many things you can actually do. Just sitting and waiting for number go up is so tiresome and you grow angry for watching your life pass by.

>>56829801
the aggressive ones are stolen valor latefags who bought the top of an earlier bull cycle, are deeply insecure about missing the btc boat and watching newer better coins outperform it now that its main run is over. they are the definition of bagholders subsidizing the early btc whales and have made doing so their identity

>>56829801
They are a cult though. That shit used to be 2 bucks a coin and you got a free coin with email. If you put 2 grand to bed in 2011 your dumbass is worth 80 million bucks or so rn

IT'S B/C SHITCOINS STAIN BTC

>>56829801
I dunno. It's a boomercoin that is clearly going nowhere.

>>56834621
stay 100% in alts and stay poor clueless zoomer

>>56829801
a good cult