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As the perpetual shy kid raised by avoidant parents, and forever feeling excluded. How can I learn to become a great orator, and how can I profit from this?

>> No.56825062
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>>56825002
get a job in sales
Simple as

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>>56825062
Tried that picrel, and I learned most of sales is taking advantage of people's fomo/vulnerability/ignorance through dark triad traits of communication. It didn't sit well on my concious.

>> No.56825174

I found similiar patterns in online games and gained success, but it was hollow.

https://archived.moe/biz/thread/56029812/#q56031065

>> No.56825458
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I've learned that you'll speak through the shade of your subconcious. It will dictate what you say and your tone. It will bring the outcome you most desire.

Anons here tell me to embody the pepe and speak through that filter, but pepe is a demon(and gain success but still hollow like I'm pretending). How can anything good come from it.

I try to speak through a divine frame like alan watts or abraham hicks which feels better since it's rooted in love, but you get walked over by dark triads.

How do find your frame? Your internal anon?

>> No.56825463

it's a robot

>> No.56825488

>>56825002
toastmasters

>> No.56825757

>>56825463
No, I'm just being emotional. Feel free to slide the thread.

>> No.56825765

Ohh my id swapped. Yeah it's a bot kek.

>> No.56827519

Just think More.

>> No.56827539

>>56825458
You need to find yourself, anon. You might be a few shades of Alan Watts ECT, but he is not you

>> No.56827566

>>56825002
unironically start a podcast

>> No.56828125

>>56825458
>you get walked over by dark triads.
You have to become more balanced. Don't think so one dimensionally about your subconscious, we're all good and bad and everything in between. Jung called it "integrating one's shadow" that repressed part of your personality, the dark side. In a lot of cases that's hatred, anger and violence. The reptile mind. Rather than suppress it entirely, harness the raw power of it in order to be able to impose your will on the world. You might think that sounds evil by principle, but the alternative is letting true evil (actual anger, hatred and violence) run amok uncontested. You have to be strong enough to defend your principles when tested, otherwise you will remain a hollow, fragile shell of a man.

First suggestion: be strong, feel strong. Become a warrior.

>> No.56830076

It becomes a lot easier after you just start trying.
I had to speak multiple times at international conferences as a PhD candidate and its a lot easier than talking to strangers one-on-one.

>> No.56831324

>>56825130
That sounds based af, cringey faggot.

>> No.56831342

>>56825130
>Tried that picrel, and I learned most of sales is taking advantage of people's fomo/vulnerability/ignorance through dark triad traits of communication. It didn't sit well on my concious.
Sales is scamming in a fiat economy. What will sit well on your conscious is when you own a small herd of cattle and when you sell one you bleed it yourself. Then it's soul will forgive you forever, you could also wear it's hide.