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>>56778647
But the left told me immigration had no impact on the job market?

>>56778647
Israel will fall within the next 10 years.

>>56778664
>noooo you can't criticise immigration stop noticing things !!!!

>>56778664
looks like this woke cuckold is mad someone wants non citizens to not get jobs citizens should be getting and is seething over it cuz he's a woke cuckold queer that thinks anything that isnt favoring immigrants and non citizens is le heckin racism and le heckin bigot chud behavior. neck yourself queer nobody cares you're a woke queer leftist liberal that wants to overrun the nation with 3rd and 4th worlders of soldier age males and thinks this is heckin progressive and good. you probably are pro-child grooming in gradeschools also leftist pedo scum

>>56778718
But dude, imagine all the good food we would be missing on without them, they're so colourful and full of joy compared to us!

>>56778718
>doesn't name the jew
Boomer detected.

>>56778664
>TND post

>>56778664
You forgot to add that the person reading this is obese, balding and can't even masturbate to porn anymore.

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>>56778647
Do you guys think there will be a day where white nations will boot out mudslims and jews from their country or is it over it's never happening?

>>56778855
White men died on beaches to prevent a sovereign country from arresting and kicking out jewish commie terrorists,
What do you think?

>>56778664
Came here to say this

>>56779015
Things can change sometimes

>>56778647
start a business instead of being a pathetic wagie

>>56779390
That's beside the point

>>56779015
no they died to liberate sovereign countries from an invading aggressor.

where is it

WHERE THE SUS

>>56779549
This. He fucked up when he started invading other countries

>>56778855
It will never happen. Vast majority are virtue-signalling beta statists and would condemn any other whites that would stand up to the invasion. Just look at the UK, that had three quarters of a million immigrants last year and nobody bats an eye, just look at Ireland and France that recently both had immigrants slaughter natives and the media only condemned the "far-right". Europe is lost, whites are going the way of native Americans or Australian aboriginals: tiny drunk minorities in their own land. Only the difference is I doubt the new indian, arab and black rulers would be so benevolent of the native white communities, all problems will still somehow be whitey's fault.

it is hard to accept, i know, and you really don't want to, yes, but here is the thing: you have to go back to pol

There is not a fixed amount of jobs, as more people come they work jobs but already require mote jobs.

The immigrant will rent a home, pay for food and other goods and services that create demand and jobs for others. More immigration just creates more growth it doesn't reduce jobs.

>>56779779
Ah yes, just have infinite immigration and you will have infinite growth. Demography does not matter, growth is growth, brown people are as good as Whites to innovate, develop and maintain a country.

I really hope you're JIDF and not just a brainwashed boomer this is pathetic

>>56778855
No, if anything they will just let more and more in. Each generation is more pro immigrant than the last and even more virtue signalling.

Whites have destroyed their own culture and it has left a vacuum for another power to fill which will be Islam.

>>56779858
ok, nice straw man, retard. Never said any of that.

>>56778647
Do white people really wanna be jannitors? Is it really that difficult to be a janny? Do white people really need a resume to be a janny??

>>56779779

We need infinity immigrants to protect us from the infinity immigrants. We need infinity immigrants so someone will build the homes for the infinity immigrants.

>>56779989
Why are you retards obsessing over "infinity"? Are you repeating some meme? Look up the benefits of population growth. Immigration is one way to achieve that. You wouldn't say having a higher birth rate is stealing or reducing jobs because kids work cheap jobs. Immigrates both work and create jobs just like any other type of population growth.

>>56778647
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>>56778647
Immigrants work but they also consume, which creates more jobs in the country.

If an immigrant works he's stealing jobs and if he doesn't he's leeching, just admits you're racist and save everyone's time

>>56780034
POCs, and only POCs need to have unlimited and state expense abortions. It’s the only way to undue the systematic injustice of untimely pregnancy on people of color, while white couples should have the burden of early pregnancies

>>56780031
>Immigrates both work and create jobs
Oh, I know several countries where the shittiest immigrants employment rate is like 30% and their crime rate in several times higher than the native population.
I guess by creating more crime the need to employ more cops and prison guards increases.

>>56780031
You argue that growth is good without addressing the issue of growth being propped up by immigration. This leads to more crime, IQ decrease, lower quality of life, less leverage against the 1% (because an inhomogeneous population will not band together) and a destruction of the autochtone's culture and sovereignty. If your argument is just growth is good then yes you will be stuck in an infinite loop. If, as a nation, you refuse taking in immigrants then the population might find innovative ways to grow their economy (see Japan), and keep their culture and protect their own population. Yes this might need a period of economical decrease and the population will have to put in more effort (see Japan).

>>56780181
>Oh, I know several countries where the shittiest immigrants employment rate is like 30%
Such as? I'm in France and most migrants work dispthe social system being very generous, they want to send money to their families abroad and 500 bucks for doing nothing won't cut it.
And if your gib system is so retarded that 70% of any population can get away with not working maybe change that first before complaining

>and their crime rate in several times higher than the native population
Mostly drug dealing here with most of clients being natives, most frenchs have had illegal drugs.
Murders and other heinous crimes are committed by a small fraction of a % of the population, I'm sure immigrants and especially sons of immigrants do more crimes but 99% don't.

>>56780321
Haha yes I'm French as well and immigrants are very nice. They eat pork and drink wine and have a deep respect for our history and institutions. They are not violent and respect women and are not agressive towards White people. If it wasn't for the skin colour you wouldn't notice them, they blend so well with the population. The minute they were put in social houses they did not scare every other population away and started driug trafficking and committing violent crimes

>>56779939
Immigration puts downward pressure on pay rates. Jannies would get paid better with little immigration.

>>56778647
if you are racist then you should be fine with being white collar and blue collar jobs being done by immigrants

>>56778647
My boomer dad tells me that it’s because we are not having kids and the immigrants are needed to keep the population up and also we do not real work since we are all lazy entitled, spoiled and too pansy ass to do hard work and only do fake computer work now

>>56780443
Boomers sold their entire civilisation that took their ancestors thousand of years to build, all just to protect their property prices and retirement money. "Growth". They should face consequences for betraying their nation

>>56780359
>no arguments so I'll just ressort to sarcasm
Not denying higher criminality.
Who's buying the drug? White normies, without them there wouldn't be drug trafficking at all.

>>56778647
A few exorbitantly rich capitalists hoard wealth, causing many to be faced with poverty. The threat of poverty forces workers to work in terrible conditions on terrible terms, at great profit to the capitalists. To prevent the workers from revolting against this system, the capitalists get the workers to blame another group of workers for their problems.
Yes, you don't have that job because someone else is doing it. But why do you need to be in poverty as a result?

>>56780635
If you could prevent those few people to import foreign labour then you would have leverage to increase salaries. Immigration is a tool used by these capitalists you are complaining abput

>>56780562
Based boomer living life

I like how the tranny bannys removed a pro immigration comment. are we healing bros?

>>56778694
"fall", it might change at most.
And In 10 years you are going to see so many changes in countries anyway so the "Israel fall" meme will not be like waht you think.
There are higher chances for America having some sort of civil wat in 2024-2025

Wouldn’t the simplest answer be to do gene therapy on minorities so they have 100 IQ/no sadistic tendencies paired with a proper nationalist government? I’m fairly sure blacks are only 19 gene codings away from being civilized. Given population decline that would be the most practical answer but it barely gets brought up on 4chan.

>>56779015
Thats not what happened at all lol. This is what happens when you get your history from hollywood movies.

>>56780635
Luckily a few exorbitant rich never hoard wealth in communist countries. I guess we know what the solution is.

>>56779871
the calergi plan did work out fine but what the kikes don't get it will be their own death and no amount of being chameleons will save those negroid abominations from eating their own medicine

>>56778694
The jews that are detroying the west live on the west you fucking retard

>>56778694
Wrong. Israel will be a majority Arab country in 10 years. Not necessarily a Palestinian one.

>>56781214
Retard

>>56779779
This, its called the lump of labor fallacy, and its also why non-immigration related population growth doesn't cause mass unemployment.

>>56780768
>american civil war
>higher chance than Israel falling
>within the next 10 years
you are out of your mind lol

>>56780875
false, they both work towards the same goal newfag

>>56782891
>>56779779
fucking kek. Even assuming that's true (it's not), then what you have is increased competition amongst the (apparently infinite, in your scenarios) low-skilled jobs. Of course this means lower, stagnant wages for these jobs.

Nothing about infinite illegal immigrants is appealing for lower-to-middle class white people. It leads to crabs-in-a-bucket mentality and stagnant wages for jobs that should've seen huge wages increases in the past couple of decades. All sorts of jobs and unions that could've led to increasing class solidarity amongst lower and middle class white people have been infiltrated and fucked raw by insane mass illegal immigration. Obviously this was always the point, but the beauty and genius of it all was getting the LEFT to promote it. Theoretically the libertarian nutjobs should be promoting mass immigration, but instead you have trannoids and lisp-having school teachers longhousing us about the beauty of infinite shitskins flooding our borders and cities.

>>56783733
why do you keep using the "infinite immigration" strawman? I am not advocating for that. I am saying that the idea that there are only ever a finite number of jobs, and immigration will therefore necessarily take jobs away from natural born citizens, is a fallacy.

Especially since when people are coming to work through the legal immigration system (note I'm not talking about illegal immigration which is an entirely separate discussion) the employer has to show they couldn't find an American citizen or permanent resident who met the minimum job qualifications, and that the immigrant they're bringing in won't be paid at a lower rate.

>>56779871
Lithuania and poland living good it seems

>>56783764
>why do you keep using
it's my first post in the thread, schizoid

>note I'm not talking about illegal immigration which is an entirely separate discussion

you're not living in the real world if you think you can discuss one without the other. If you're only willing to discuss legal immigration and its effect on the economy, you're not going to make arguments in good faith and not worth talking to

>>56778647
Middle class whites live in gated communities and comprehend the world outside only through ephemeral interactions with the vetted immigrant doctor or nurse, maybe they visit a nice restaurant and meet a single family of well meaning immigrants. What they don't see are entire communities being destroyed, deracination, rising crime and poverty, the cultural norms and values which allowed a high trust and amiable society to exist being replaced by surly strangers competing for the same slice of pie like rival sports teams. The middle class see none of the negatives and all of the positives because to them working class people are zoo animals to be enjoyed when they fell like leaving their suburb.

The only argument anyone on the opposing side to "We would like to retain homogeneous, high-trust societies that are ancestors bequeathed to us as they cannot be rebuilt if your experiment goes wrong" is "B-but the line on graph goes up" as though statistics aren't easily fudged, and at this point in history undergoing a replicability crisis.

There are immigrants who support their presence using the same arguments, I'm hardly refocusing the blame entirely onto middle-class whites, but negotiating with invaders is a futile endeavour and they wouldn't have made it this far without the helping hand of self-loathing, ethnomasochistic, graph obsessed oestrogen riddled middle class whites.

>>56778685
The left? The left don’t import immigrants to do the work you don’t want because it pays shit. The neoliberal or the new right do this though.

>>56779390
The only people that think starting a business is the way to wealth are indians and "hustlers" that think they're a step away from the Forbes 100 because they made $5000 in three months from eBay flipping and listen to Andrew Tate
My business has over a million USD in contract bookings and I'm poorer than I've ever been. Business takes you from rich to richer, not poor to rich. You can't start a serious business with the potential to make you a real, liquid millionaire if you're poor. You're better off with crypto

>>56778694
Nah

>>56778694
I can see it.

>>56778647
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>>56779549
It's weird how we all collectively know that the only legitimate state is one of 90%+ ethnic Europeans (literal paradise), but we will keep pretending that we care about some sandy shithole full of random browns or their irrelevant 2,000 year old conflicts.

Why do we do this?

>>56778647
I don't understand this cartoon

>>56778647

Mass immigration is a weapon to lower wages for the working class. More people=more desperation for what jobs there are. You are browbeaten and called a racist if you question mass immigration.

>>56787431
the current janitor is being replaced by an immigrant, hence why he's holding a resume. go back to stacking chainlink mongloid

>>56788226
Why is that even funny or insightful?

>>56779015

Everyone was fine with turning a blind eye to Germany's shenanigans until they chimped out and invaded all of their neighbors.

>>56778855
It's going to happen.

>>56778855

Hard to tell. The moment places realize, it's frequently too late. More a chance of states fracturing and white people forming enclaves and all that, kind of like the American South or S. Africa.

The fuck you chuds gonna do about it? A pack of nigger immigrants would rape your kid and you’d be just like the boomers “ohhh I don’t want to lose my pension/wage cuck job for mr. shekelstein!” The Irish only rioted for like 6 hours when those little girls got stabbed and didn’t even assault any journalists, politicians, jews or bankers. Cowards that refuse to stand up for themselves get slaughtered that’s the way nature goes. Time to pay back for the sins of your colonizing forefathers cum skins.