/biz/ - Business & Finance

Micro dosing can help but if you do a high enough dose you'll probably figure out you don't want money you just want X and there are other ways of achieving X besides money, some of which may likely play to your strengths better.

>>56780545
sobriety is the way to go op. the elites and MSM are pushing drug use to keep the general populace docile and stupid. anything other than all natural is a fucking lie.

>>56780545
DMT is more of a business man trip.

>>56780689
Honestly this is what I'm thinking as well. Psychedlics feel like a very elaborate and hypnotizing dead end

>>56780689
> anything other than all natural
weed, shrooms, DMT, and LSD (which naturally occurs in your brain)
arent natural?
lol

>>56781011
LSD is not natural / does not get produced in your brain

Not if you sell them

>>56780545
if you want to trip on money and finance and business then LSD is the way to go.

>>56780721
They can be used to brainwash, I guess, but if people do it ritualistically and focus on their inner trip it might actually do the opposite

>>56780689
This is what I think even though I fucking love weed. I don’t think it’s how God wants us to live. Weed is addictive as fuck don’t care what anyone else says, and God definitely doesn’t want us to be addicted to a drug.

>>56781011
>>56781025
Only DMT is endogenous, weed, shrooms, LSD, are NOT produced by human body

>>56781025
It’s so fun though :( drinking and acid help me socialize in a way I have a very difficult time doing sober, I just figured out how much of a difference it makes last night, went to a dubstep/DnB show last night sober, was a lot more work to get into the mood.

>>56781054
We have an entire system of endocannabinoid receptors. It’s like our body was literally made to ingest THC and other cannabinoids.

>>56781068
That is true but none of the phytochemicals found in cannabis are produced by human body, the human body uses endogenous cannabinoids like anandamine.

Dows doing shrooms on the weekend make you a better wagie during the week? Or is the extra "perspective" detrimental to your work ethic

Do a heroic acid trip every few months to talk to god. Quit smoking and alcohol ever since. More energy and focus. Recommend

>>56780545
The amount of people I've met that are enthusiastic about psychedelics and that are braindead retards massively...MASSIVELY outweighs the amount of people I've met that are enthusiastic about psychedelics and successful. To every successful person I know, the people who do psychedelics are generally regarded as unreliable trash that are the punchline to any jokes dealing with losers. The people doing the psychedelics a lot tend to be massive headcases that are trying to escape from something and when the psychedelics fail to get them away from whatever it is, they figure "I just need more psychedelics!" More power to them honestly. Whatever people need to cope.

>>56780679
Big true. Took enough to see to the other side and realized there were more important things than making money. I don't want money. I want safety and comfort. There are cheaper ways to get that than what they sell you.

>>56783017
I only went so far as to have time speed up and the paintings on the wall started moving.

>>56783031
Aren't most people brain dead to begin with?

>>56780545
There's no point in microdosing. Sobriety is better. But if you do it, do a large enough amount where you can get the message and move on with your life. It really shouldn't have much of an impact on your life as some idiots say they do.

I microdosed on shrooms, and it was a pleasant and soothing experience. I didn't have any earth shattering insights or changes. But I laid in bed listening to meditative music. The bed felt more comfortable than ever and the music quite sublime. Looking outside, colors were more vivid and reminded me of how the world looked when I was a young child.

I plan to do a hero dose soon, but I admit I'm a little scared. I do think if any insights are made, it would be that fixating on material things like money are ultimately meaningless.

I never understood how people could obtain those kinds of substance since it's illegal; either you have to dig obscure forums to find the right tor marketplace, or elsewhere, in any cases without a testing kit you can't know if you're scammed or taking shit
how can drugs taker have the patience to handle this annoying stuff

>>56783979
In certain US cities shrooms are decriminalized and you can just walk into a store and buy it with cash.

>>56783996
this isn't shrooms; it's dmt, lsd, acid, cocaine, and countless others, shrooms yes, but there's so much of those, furthermore you don't know if what you buy in store is the substance people are talking about

>>56780679
>you don't want money you just want X and there are other ways of achieving X besides money
Yeah that's stupid.

>>56783031
Define success.
>>56783446 also this.

>>56783809
>did 3 tabs of acid last winter
>regressed to a 5-year-old kid lost in the maze, as expected
>thought that i was done for, either offing myself to evade the lifetime of shame or get put into a psych-ward (while the world was also ending from alien terraforming lol)
>after 10 years of spiritual development and faith-building, a high enough poison could still shatter my elaborate comfort zone in an hour
just some words of caution - in the end, God's always got you but never be reckless about dangerous things

>>56784040
You’re just a little bitch. Take 1 hit doses more often before jumping up that high.

>>56780689
Yeah, they're "pushing" psychedelics even though if 99% of the population did them they'd revolt and realize being a wageslave is the biggest waste of time. Ever wonder why LSD is on the same tier as heroin and meth despite it having one of the lowest harm potentials of any substance?

>>56783379
Happy for you Anon. May your life be secure and comfy
>>56784011
:)

I did 4gs and while coming up numbers lost all meaning to me. I looked at my portfolio and I couldn't comprehend the amount and significance I put into it in my sober, normal mind. This also extended to time as well. I remember looking at my phone and it being 9pm but I didn't understand the concept of 9pm. Like you know how when you're sober obviously 9pm is night time and it's time to bed down or do night time stuff. That lost all meaning to me. This was on the come up and when I peaked I didn't think about stuff my sober mind would have like crypto, my job, my family, relationships etc. I felt a mental clarity in an area I think I dwell upon which is how others perceive me and the pressures of trying to be successful. The clarity was that there are so many people on this planet with their own lives, own tribulations, and own dreams and to continue on with life. I lost that mental clearness but in the moment it felt so real and sharp. I also felt like a butterfly coming out of the cocoon too. But I don't want to take it again.

For what it’s worth, I took acid and the most memorable part of it was when I realized apples are very symbolic in the Bible, and it sent me down a weird thought path wondering if Jobs and Wozniak did thought of the apple as symbolic like in the Bible, knowing they’re both weird and the 666.66 thing.

Anyway, if you want to drugs to change your perspective on life because you don’t like the perspective you have now, do MDMA one time only. It’s worth it.

If you need drugs to socialize then you’re doing it wrong. All it’s supposed to do is force you to be happy doing what you’re doing atm. Be wise with it anon and don’t abuse it as a performance enhancer. You’ll turn annoying and can’t hold a regular conversation

>>56780545
take 10MeO harmalan instead

>>56783734
this

>>56780545
I used to take them frequently. And while it didn’t have any noticeable impact on my drive/ability to make money on way or the other, the experiences and different perspectives that came to me in those altered states has definitely change how I look at the world. It pulled me out of this weird sort of “depression” I was in. I’m a little more empathetic and don’t get upset at setbacks or inconveniences so easily. It helped me see issues from my past in a different light and helped me accept or let go of a lot of those issues. Overall a very positive experience mentally and emotionally. But financially speaking, I don’t think it made any sort of difference either way, aside from maybe not getting so bent out of shape over a bad trade anymore.

>>56780689
I'm coming up on 2 years of sobriety, I used to do mad psychedelics. The bad thing about psychedelics is without proper guidance and context--which pretty no one gets--you can trick yourself into thinking that the only time you can talk to God is when you're high on a psychedelic. It's a mistake. It'll lead to immense pain in life because there are many times in life where you should ask God for guidance or help but you won't because you'll say "oh, I can't ask God for help because I'm not on a psychedelic, I have to wait until the next time I'm on one". That's the biggest lie you can tell yourself. And to anyone pro-psychedelics on that "God isn't real we're just energy and the universe blah blah blah" bullshit, you know in your heart your a religious fanatic. Taking a psychedelic is a deeply religious experience.

>>56780545
I've never done them, so I wouldn't know. I can only assume that if you're doing them everyday, like any other drug, it will have a negative effect on productivity. From what I understand, it can have a positive effect on your life (unless you're bipolar or susceptible to becoming manic or schizophrenic). As for making money... That's up to what you decide on the other end of the outcome after your trip. There's a chance you might discover that money actually means nothing to you. Maybe microdosing could brighten your day and help you think more clearly, but so can other nootropics. I've yet to try it, due to my brother being bipolar and I fear doing so because so far "The Science(™)" says that there's a danger of triggering a manic episode that could bring out some latent bipolar disorder... I've never had that bullshit and I just feel depressed, unenthused and lackluster... but a part of me really thinks a 2.5 -3 g macrodose in a therapeutic setting would help fix me tremendously.

I can't speak for shrooms but LSD and cannabis have improved my ability to make money

>>56781011
>weed, shrooms, DMT, and LSD (which naturally occurs in your brain)
>arent natural?
you naturally don't get high as shit

>>56780545
Last time I did LSD Link poomped to double digits for the first time, utterly hilarious looking back on it. Shrooms in particular aren’t really conducive to advancing one’s personal business and finance pursuits, if anything it makes the mind wander to more metaphysical and spiritual parts of the mind. Stimulants such as caffeine, adderrall, and cocaine on the other hand are for positively affecting one’s drive to make money.

>>56780545
It directly affects my drive/ability to make critical decisions, so probably yeah, last time I used em I was trading shitcoins and ended up scoping some ICP and KASPA instead of KAVA that was what I initially intended to buy kek

>>56784932
why would you fucking do that in the first place faggot

>>56784841
Mushrooms are overvaluated, herbs

>>56781011
Oh you thought, kek, fuck of junkie

>>56784659
Yeah, its not like you've never take a girl to have a coffee, or to a drink, same objective different drug.

>>56784932
So you basically missed one jew scam, cause you picked another jew scam

>>56784932
Psychotropics and trading don't go along, you're an idiot

>>56784948
psycos are good. just use them with care

>>56784735
as someone who has no idea what the fuck youre talking about what does it mean to "talk to god"?

I've done psychedelics as well and never had an experience like that. any clues on what to look for or something that can help me understand what you mean by that?

>>56784475
Because if everyone realized you could live comfortably outside of the city without wasting your entire life in the machine society would collapse.

>>56784599
The apple is for sure a reference but likely to Alan Turing killing himself with a poisoned apple when he was outed as gay. Hence the rainbow Apple logo on the old Macintosh PCs from back in the day.

>>56780545
No, in fact they might help it
But don't do them any more than once a month, even that is probably pushing it
Not because of any side effects necessarily but because it might put you into a mode of consumption-based happiness

If you're a druggie/casual alkie like I was then the best thing you can do to improve your drive/ability to make money is don't drink more than one beer/standard drink per week and get good sleep (or at least wake up at the same time every day

That will do like 50% of the work, the other 50% is freeing yourself from this mode of consumptive happiness, ie, "I want to be happy right now -> ok I must eat something/drink something/take something/do behavior" instead of just attempting to be comfortable in the moment

>>56783979
Shrooms are easy as fuck to grow and it's legal to buy spores online.

>>56781081
yah ir body doesnt make it because you ingest it. just like your body doesn’t make zinc or anyother mineral you need. i love weed btw but i understand it can be used as a crutch. so can video games

>>56784995
If you don't understand what I'm referencing then the doses you've done must've been small. Not a crack at you, just my hunch. You can do a small amount of mushrooms and have a very mild experience. If you eat an 8th or upwards, for example, I don't see how it's possible you don't have a spiritual/religious experience.

The point is if you're struggling and feel like you need help getting help is as simple as just asking God to help you.

>>56785023
>one drink per week

Nigger the whole point of drinking alcohol is to feel the effects of alcohol. If I wanted something le tasty and sophisticated I would have a Pepsi.

>>56784995
P.S just to clarify, I'm don't have an opinion on whether anyone should do psychedelics or not, it can have a positive impact on your life, but what I am saying is that it's important to remember that you can have a spiritual experience anytime you want to have one, not just when you're loaded.

>>56785086
my brother heres the thing. god is helping you when you are struggling. he only puts you infront of battles that you need to overcome in order to grow.
that being said how do you believe in god? i teeter on it. sometimes i really want to believe and sometimes i just dont

>>56780545
Shrooms didn't affect my drive and ability to make money, it did however, affect my ability to be happy.

Last time I did lsd was with my brother, my portfolio went down 30~% that day. I couldn't sell or anything, I thought it was funny since the screen of my phone was melting so did my shitcoins. Good time

>>56785128
Yes I'm a Christian. God doesn't intentionally place hardships on people or punish them for their misdeeds. Hardship and sin are just a pre-requisite of the miracle of life, without either you wouldn't be a free, living human being capable of making choices. God gives us guidance to overcome hardship and to resist the temptation of sin. God bless you brother.

Kek people still use mind altering substances in 2023?

>>56780545
no they give you psychic powers. pretty cool actually

>>56780545
It’s all about heroic doses unless you can keep a habit of microdosing for years
You should also cleanse yourself of parasites and metals first
>>56780703
This

>>56785309
>Leshrac
my nigga
what kinda psychic powers?

>>56785745
Psychedelics are powerful manifestation aides. They break the walls between the physical and spiritual. Indigenous tribes all over use them while hunting in small doses and pre hunt in big doses to manifest their goals
Use these things carefully

>>56786003
oh, i was thinking something like mind reading or telepathy or something like that

>>56785132
Negative or positive?

>>56784475
Paychedelics are illegal because for most people they will have negligible to positive effects but for a select few (2-3% of the population) it will trigger their latent mental illness in wild and spectacular fashion. And that scared the shit out of people enough to allow the government to wholesale ban them.

>>56785745
Not that anon but I feel like they have me the ability to see very short distances into the future. I could see the lines of people's intentions and a few seconds later they would follow exactly that line laid out on the ground. Almost like a silk web moving people around. I could also feel the physical force of social networks literally drawing me in gravitationally to the people I cared about. Those things that we usually call intuition, instinct, or feeling was physically and visibly present in my eyes. Cool shit. Basically made me realize how drawn I was to the people in my life and they to me.

>>56780689
>the elites and MSM are pushing drug use to keep the general populace docile and stupid
That's nonsense, they have been pushing against drug use for decades and with their full might precisely for that reason.
Nobody is even actively pushing anything anyways, they just found a way to profit off it. The only people pushing for it are people that did the drugs before their clinical availability.

Your goal when tripping is to figure out how to never want or need to trip again before you have a bad experience that forces this inevitable decision. Most will never make it, distracted by the pretty lights. Find joy and inspiration in every day, its a choice. Once the fire is lit, you dont need to keep striking flint (taking drugs).

>>56780545

Mushrooms in general are life changing. Not just the ones that make you trip. Do your research.

I use lions mane, reishi, mai taki. and i microdose the trippy shrooms.

all the above absolutely improved my life. Big pharma is in trouble once main stream society learns about all thee powers of shrooms

>>56780679
Incredibly true and based

>t. experience, happened to me. Never made more money with ease and been happier

>>56780545
I have aphantasia so I can take several tabs of LSD and not see any visuals but have a greatly changed state of consciousness. I've spent several LSD 'trips' researching Chainlink in detail. One trip I spent the entire time playing online chess and at one point I was in such a state of 'flow' that all I perceived for hours was the chessboard and the movements of the pieces.

I microdosed LSD by taking 1/8th tabs everyday for a month (the usual protocol is to take it every second day). and that practice permanently ultered my perception of reality slightly. Everything is just a little bit more colourful and on demand I can feel as if I have taken a microdose of LSD despite not having it for months now.

Alan Watts put it well in describing psychedelics as a method of communication with the divine, once you get the message put the dammed phone down!
I haven't tried shrooms I might try them next time they grow in my area. I really recommend you read some books about psychedelics before taking them. The setting you are in and your mind set going into a trip massively effect how people percieve a psychdelic experience. But again I have Aphantasia so I don't think I really had a true psychdelic experience as a person with a functional minds eye would have.
Being a wordcel is suffering.

>>56780689

>>56786115
That’s more defined than I ever experienced. I do recall sitting by a lake while tripping pretty hard and feeling a sense of everything swelling out of the ground like vines or tendrils, the implication of the feeling that there’s some chaotic life force that unites all things. Everything we think of as our own thoughts experiences actions whatever is the will of the chaos being. Ordinarily we live under a veil where we imagine our own autonomy but it’s out of the practical need to survive, actually we are all in it together in a more profound way than we will ever completely understand

>>56780545
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxFkDpbmATU
Yeah, I'm going with don't fuck with what you don't understand

don't mushrooms kinda make you crazy?
in terms of nature or evolution, what function do they serve? to disorient animals and make them not want to return to the area they ate the mushroom in fear of being disoriented again?

>>56780545

Sure, go trips balls and get lost in nevernever land achieving fuck all cuz whilst the rest of stay in reality and fuck your gf faggot

>>56786114
Total bullshit because the govt hasn’t banned anti depressants and they make more serial killers than psychedelics
Keep licking the boot and spreading lies

>>56786531
Giving women psychedelics makes them horny
If you’re not fucking on shrooms or acid, you’re living a peasant life