/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for sneed fiat

Fun Fact: Central bank debt can never be paid off.

What's funny about all you silver scam victims is you are trapped. You lost 80% already and over 400% compared to the stock market

If silver went up to $120 <it wont> you could sell and break even

If silver went to $670 <ROFL> you would be even with boomers who invested in the DJIA. <lmao>

But you won't sell because it's your whole life you will be a broke loser unless silver went to $100,000 and you could buy a virgin for 10 cents. Lmao that's what you were promised and what you believe.

So you are trapped. You are stuck with a lifetime of pain because you invested all your real $$$$ in a scam. You can't sell because that would be admitting you got scammed and you h8 me too much for telling you the truth and warning you. Emotionally and financially trapped its your whole life....your identity.

Lmao how did you get to this place? greed. You listened to a scammer and got greedy and wanted to get rich <and a gf> with no effort.

#Sorry not sorry no refunds

>>56762309
LMAO reddit spacing

>>56762198
fake

>>56762309
Based thanks for throwing some water into the face of silver trannies.

Black Friday deals need to hurry up and get here.

>>56762459
Black Friday deals only 40% premiums. Kektop at the low iq nazi larpers

>>56762459
12 more minutes fren. Get ready.

>>56762666
Checked, hoping for some good deals

Everyone ready for all the sites to crash and the best deals to be gone before you get a chance to even decide?

>>56762695

Nothing is really jumping out at me. Sucks that the spot price is already so high.

What an insufferable faggot.

grabbed the 10 ounce bar at spot on apmex. no order issues.

>>56762109
APMEX has spot 10oz bars
https://www.apmex.com/product/21/10-oz-silver-bar-secondary-market

>>56762109
SD Bullion spot 5oz bars
https://sdbullion.com/5-oz-proclaim-liberty-silver-bar-poured

>>56762109
Just locked in my 10oz at spot from apmex

>>56762753
>>56762762

Waiting for a kilo as spot from apmex. 10oz really just wasn’t jumping at me. The 5oz from SD might be alright tho.

>>56762771
If you make a new account at SD (just needs to be with a new email address, shipping address can be the same), you can also scoop another 5oz at spot to give you 10oz total
https://sdbullion.com/buy-silver-at-spot

>>56762780
Same, cheers sir

>>56762809
Good news for you anon, they have that already if you simply make a new account with a new email address and order through the app
https://www.apmex.com/product/247005/1-kilo-cast-poured-silver-bar-apmex-at-spot

The 10oz spot deal is sold out. Congrats to everyone who snagged one

>>56762828
I set my alarm for it.
I’m waiting for deals on 10oz, rounds, and junk today

>>56762771
went for this, thanks anon. nothing is standing out to me too much but this is a pretty good one, might as well get something at spot

>>56762771
grabbed this as well, with some peace dollars to get the free shipping. no order issues.

>>56762822
Heyyy nice. Just gotta set up another email. And just have it sent to my parents. Thanks anon.

"Cheap" Thasos's Thrace tetradrachm arrived by the mail today.
Happy bcuz the strike isn't as weak as first expected.

>>56762828
Those sold out extremely fast lol. First spot deal of the day though, so not surprising

>>56762843
Noice, ust grabbed one myself. APMEX should have a few more spot deals throughout the day

>>56762109
Monument metals has a buy one, get one at spot deal on 10oz nadir silver bars

>>56762109
First year Black Friday slurping. What can I expect?

>>56762860

No gold at spot this year on APMEX?

>>56762855
Shipping address can still be the same, they are only checking email afaik. I snagged 6 of them a few weeks ago, all came to the same address lol

>>56762853
Based peace dollar enjoyer

You guys think IQ will be slurping some of these deals? Unless Trojan is running spot deals on secondary market condoms for Black Friday, then I think we know where his money's going

>>56762878
It’s the first hour of deals, 25 minutes in

Also a 27gr monetary weight for the 8 reales coin in brass, circa 17-18th c.
Condition is absolute crap, but i paid 5€ for it so still a good deal.

>>56762860
>>56762873
looks good condition for 'cheap'
congrats

https://centerfiresystems.com/sds-1911-carry-b9-9mm-4.25-enhanced-8rd-eb/

i got the same emails yall did bout apmex and sd spot prices so i figured id share a few gun deals

https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-gen-3-glock-21sf-short-frame-45-auto-handgun

reminder that youre not white if you fud silver

>>56762894
They used to do a 1oz at spot doorbuster

>>56762888
He's all tapped out buying index funds

>>56762924

big alex

>>56762741
Bob's drunk posting reminds me when I left an industry full of "nuevo rich". I can't believe I used to be that miserable myself and constantly concerned about how my finances or toys compared to other people. Bob is a good reminder of what chasing money can do to a person. Also I think he has acute lead poisoning.

How come gold and silver are such bad investments in these times.
One would think with all the inflation going on, the price would go through the roof.

>bob
>iqdelet

when will you faggots in pmg stop bloviating fudster lore???

both the bob posting and the iq delet shit only serves to get the fudsters jollies off. ive been lurking for a few years and the invented persona for ego clout is the gayest fucking thing you can do

simply ignore

>>56762926
Ok, I really doubt that $400 Tisas is gonna be as nice as the $3k gun it's copying, but I'm very interested nonetheless kek. Please stop posting these. I found myself explaining what a p80 was to my dad yesterday, then selling him on the idea that we could build some together, then realizing neither of us like polymer framed pistols, but...only $200, right!?

>>56762176
Let me guess, because of interest?

>>56762965
i actually like this one

>>56762971
Bob is an insufferable faggot, I would rather be poor but content than be Bob, he is a prime example of how money cannot buy happiness. He really shits up the thread these days too, dozens of snooty posts, its annoying. I'm guessing his wife (if he has one) cheats on him regularly.

>>56763058
Man, the synchronicities, i just followed an auction for this EXACT same coin 2 minutes ago, right when you posted it.

>>56763058
ps : i'm far from an expert, but $200 for this coin in this condition seems pretty damn steep no?

>>56763032i love deals and sharing
dude its funny: 3k pistols are nice but come in like butchers paper; the cheap turkish clones not quite as nice but come with full on rig and kit for a tenth the price

of all the robot coin social joints in all the world, zir walked into mine

>>56763075
TBF, he's only really irritating when he's drunk. I like his mining stories sometimes. Anyway I'm sure he's passed out now so, no sense dwelling on it.

I'm looking for deals on Brits or maples for Christmas presents (I don't wanna give out my queens lol) but nothing good yet. I'll probably give out some of the 2nd amendment rounds I bought a few weeks ago or just see if the silver tamping starts up again Monday morning if I can't find good coin deals today.

>>56763033
Yup.

>>56763087
lol crazy. cant believe ive never considered getting one. as a metals and history nerd, seems an obvious pickup

>>56763104
I hear ya. I swore that was a copy of a Wilson doublestack 9mm called the edc9 or something, but there's nothing on the Wilson website. Anyway, if that Tisas actually uses a smaller/thinner frame than a regular commander, I may consider getting it for the wife. But really it's for me lol.

>>56763101
probably. idk. i dont shop around for old coin prices. last i even looked at ancients was years ago
definitely recommend anyone do some research before a purchase, especially if it can be easily faked

>>56763131
I'm just like you, it never crossed my mind for the longest time simply because i thought it wasn't accessible to the average Joe.

Sale prices are now live!

>>56763145
Ok, I realize it's a single stack and that it's probably not a "clone" as much as a homage, but I swear there was a popular wilson model, bobtailled and all, that came with those green Wilson grips. Whatever I'm thinking of specifically, it's obviously no longer available.

>>56763169
got a few a few roman pieces those years ago when i looked into it first. just cheap silvers and coppers from roman rep and empire
a genuine alexander specifically would be my oldest by far and most famous person.
pictured is a senatorial ancestor of Cato in silver and emperor Constantine in copper. most people have no idea who tf Cato or Constantine are, but its hard to never hear of Alexander

>>56762109
>Chuck Edition
ha, you were expecing some stuffed up lizard?

lolno, its just my Yukari.

admittedly pretty bad examples but i like em
Romulus and Remus

>>56762109
What’s the likelihood of a spot junk silver deal?

>>56762860
>>56762873
Yeah that looks great for a "cheap" one. How much was it?

>>56762969
What sort of corrosion is that? Even with all that damage, €50 still seems like a good deal for an Alexander drachm.

>>56763382
by the green tarnish on the right, id guess its copper impurities showing through

>>56763329
APMEX usually does some. If not today, watch out over the next week, they did some last year in the week after Thanksgiving. If you are getting itchy, Liberty Coin had some rolls at 18x earlier this week in thier eBay store, might be worth a look.

I don't even care if gold/silver go up anymore, I just want bitcoin and everyone who owns it to get raped to death

>>56762992
Idk if you're trolling but, the prices of PMs against the USD are kept low via a coordinated effort by international banks that enables the various debt based fiat currencies around the world to exist as they do. If/when the price of PMs are fully realized against fiat, the average person will likely be priced out of PMs for the most part. That correction would also be indicative of a collapse of fiat. So, instead of asking why monetary policies and markets are seemingly illogical, you should be taking advantage of this unique time in history and converting some of your fiat to PMs while it's still available at these artificially low prices. PMs are NOT an investment. They are simply money, in its oldest tangible form. They will exist as money, despite what happens to any currencies, for as long as there are a few million or more people on the planet. If you're buying them in hopes of "gains" you're likely going to be disappointed. You buy PMs to protect the gains you've already made.

>>56762992

>>56763220
Still nobody preordering the pirates?

>>56763515
I'm not a big fan, the "coming for that booty" is too cheesy for me personally. Also not a fan of the price.

>>56763367
120€. Weight : 16gr.

>>56763301
>>56763263
Nothing wrong dipping a toe with cheap coins at first.

>>56763541
>Also not a fan of the price.
Yup, me neither. And he himself acknowledged he went too greedy with this pricetag, i told him most people would nope away at this price. Last preorder figures were about.. 70 gilded and 70 non-gilded iirc?

>>56763122
Fantastic.

>>56763453
who is pictured?
>>56763546
nice. seems like a good deal for how preserved your coin is

>>56763455
Weird, but you realize that the shorter term plan is most likely to use Bitcoin/crypto in general as the next big refuge for fiat inflation, then purposely crash that market and offer to bail everyone out with some shitty new digital currency, right? A BTC ETF owned by blackrock? C'mon...every fuckin pension fund and 401k will be scrambling to buy shares when they start pumping it. And pump it they can and will. You should be using the knowledge of that pattern to make fiat gains now and convert more of it to PMs, rather than be angry at people's personal financial decisions.

>>56763515
I think most people are waiting for the crusaders to show up first

oh boy, 188%

>>56763408
Good eye. That makes sense.

>>56763455
Why are you so bitter at other people making better investments than you?

>>56763546
Good buy, anon.

>>56762109
>spot rises on Black Friday deals
Every time

>i didnt shoot all those chinks in vietnam to see blacks on my coins

>>56762109
Gold rooster up next in 40 minutes for apmex

>>56762109

>>56763749
I’m excited. But I’ll bet they go quick. I’m also willing to bet that their 5oz up next will be at spot

>>56763804
They’re only $20 above spot anyway. Below spot gold incoming?

>>56763220
It's not enough. Such ridiculous prices.

>>56763820
Nope, exactly at spot

>>56763778
>pro : feels rich
>con : can't afford it

>>56763220
any discount codes for frens today?

>>56764215
luxury cars or luxury bars?
(neither for me)

>credit or check?
free shipping btw

>>56763749
lasted longer than i thought, but gone now

>>56758546
nice colt

Next up on apmex. 1/4 oz American gold eagles. Curious to see what the deal will be. Seriously doubt it’ll be at spot. But that’d be wild.

>>56763633
>Weird, but you realize that the shorter term plan is most likely to use Bitcoin/crypto in general as the next big refuge for fiat inflation
that's already happened
you think you're ahead of the game but you're way behind lol

>>56764482
oh man, i'd love me a 1/4oz age at spot

>>56761325
Thanks for the encouragement!
>>56761345
I have no background info on the wooden nickel. An ebay seller included it with a purchase of some other coin or what-not.

purity? weight? smokable rocks? hmmmm

Pretty nice deal on plat bars.

>>56764548
hero bullion has plat 1 ounce coins at $958

>>56764312
bars. cars over a certain amount should only be fun models

>>56764590

Anons... be careful about falling for the 'Black Friday' sales hype. It doesn't really apply to PMs. The best deals you can expect would be buying something 'at spot.'. There are two things to consider there.
1) "Spot" prices can fluctuate to swing sale prices to a greater degree that the savings on premiums. Ask yourself where the general market prices are *now*. For example, I ordered this two days ago from Apmex, and paid $684.84:
https://www.apmex.com/product/78374/10-gram-gold-bar-austrian-mint-kinebar-design-in-assay
Today on sale it's $2 and some change higher.
2) Different dealers have different ideas of what "the" spot price is. Pic related: I opened four dealers' home pages, then refreshed each, bam bam bam bam. Then I took screen shots and look at the 'spot' prices each claims.

Don't be a consumer drone. Keep your wits about you.

>>56764575
$25 above spot? Damn that's good from what i remember of memetal premiums. If i had the monies i'd probably go for an oz.

>>56764711
no shit, sherlock
most deals are ass this year

>>56764711
Monument metals (PBUH) still coming in the lowest at $2001.

>>56764711
shhhhhh

>>56764721
It's nice that you're a very savvy buyer, but such genius and resistance to commercial pressure as yours is not necessarily common, and there are new buyers out there as well.
Obviously my post was not meant for such a sophisticated and experienced buyer as yourself.

40% off premium
sneed it or keep it?

>>56764711
Here's my black friday deal : 10F worth of silber swiss Helvetia for 20.60€.
How can dealers ever compete?

>>56764312
both. put wheels on bars
rollin' in money

>>56764777
yeah nvm this deal blows, you can find better on ebay lol

>>56764777
Checked & chucked, it's an atrocious deal. $2416/oz bro.

>>56764810
you guys think real rich people ever come here and shitpost? or just us chumps?

>>56764812
You're really bad at this.
https://bullionexchanges.com/2023-1-4-oz-gold-american-eagle-coin

>>56764836
oops>>56764810

>>56764838
those people support israel, mate
some things are more important than savings

>>56764836
no, but the larpers are pretty funny. like brass anon

>>56764851
That's comically dumb.
yngmi.

>>56763633
The crypto money sink conspiracy theory. Which I am 100% on board with. Not to say gains cant be made initially.

>>56763626
not 100% sure. caesar maybe?

https://coins.ha.com/itm/ancients/roman-republic/ancients-julius-caesar-as-dictator-49-44-bc-ar-denarius-20mm-373-gm-10h-ngc-choice-vf-3-5-4-5/a/61351-24017.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

>>56764866
>larpers
obviously there are some here that have some money. i dont doubt that but theres layers to this cake
whos the wealthiest person to ever type a post on /biz/

>>56764873
jew/zionist spotted
do not reply to me again

>>56764488
I don't hold Bitcoin myself; I'm holding longer plays (and shitcoins lol) but that's not a good discussion for /pmg/ really. With that said, I've no doubt there will be a bump in BTC next year and that this blackrock ETF will be the first of many new crypto funds that will provide "safe" crypto returns for institutions and normies.

>>56764908
Define "rich".
Claire Huxtable on The Cosby Show had a decent definition: "Rich is when your money works for you, not when you work for the money."

>>56764942
i think expecting muh ETFs to pump crypto is pure normie/midwit tier but you do you

>>56764908
>whos the wealthiest person to ever type a post on /biz/
Musk posted here so that will be pretty hard to beat.

>>56764906
looks like it. neat. didnt recognize him

>>56764482
It’s fucking $600…

>>56764711
Monument Metals (PBUH) 10z nadir bar sale chads rise up!

>>56764867
sweet 1918

>>56765034
getting to buy 1/4oz AGEs at spot was always a pipe dream, i'm afraid

>>56764968
I think entities like blackrock will continue to accumulate assets by buying and selling our wealth to themselves before they play a strategic role in the controlled collapse of debt based fiat. This ETF is just the first of more SEC approved crypto funds to come as the stock market is already overvalued to shit and everyone knows it.

Banks are being handed money by the fed and told to get some profitable assets on their books to avoid insolvency. Of course they're going to create new red assets for themselves. All they need to do for this fund is drive this price up initially to attract new money, then throw their weight around in the crypto world to start pumping dollars out every second. Some major trading houses already have crypto desks, this approved fund gives them a legit exit for the cash, and, they can leverage or bundle shares with toxic assets etc...to avoid a credit crunch. Looking at the state of banking, there is no way they're going to "pass" on this lol. The fed can only kick the debt can down the road for a few months at a time at best lately with their creative accounting measures. Approving crypto funds will give them a few more years of breathing room.

>>56765184
i can see your logic but i just can't get myself to buy bitcoin at $38k. doesn't seem like a safe place to park my money. best case scenario is something like a 3-4x, and the risk of -90% is very high.

metals are cool!

>>56762109
Gold!

>>56762147
Silver!

>>56765244
I'm not advocating buying BTC specifically. I am saying that if you're looking for gains, crypto in general will provide some in the shorter term is all, but again, most of the threads on this board are about making crypto gains. I'm not trying to bring that discussion into pmg.

I was really just replying to the guy who was emotional about BTC holders. I do think that speculating on the details of the collapse of fiat in general is a worthy discussion in these threads, but I'm not interested in arguing with anyone on how they invest their money. Im here to talk about stacking and to make fun of the jewish banking ineptitude that led me to start stacking in the first place lol.

>>56764100
People have been calling it ridiculous since aputannia was $45

>>56764777
>40% off what we jack onto the price
lmao

>>56764100
they're fun meme coins
if you don't like em, buy some 1oz buffalo rounds and enjoy

>>56764100
>ridiculous prices.
go mint them yourself if you think it should be so cheap and then see how that goes.

like peple saying a nice watch or a motorcycle is too ecpensinve.
you couldn't build any of these things yourself for anything close to the price you can typically buy them for

apmex has a morgan dollar deal coming up, that could be good

>>56765697
>bu morgans
i have low hopes for it being decent

>>56765697
Already $55 per. I don’t know how much of a discount will make that better

>>56765739
Probably any quantity pricing.

So this raise in spot is due to the sales hype?

Is liberty coin legit? I know how much ebay seller fees are and I'm nervous because they seem to have good deals on kind of cool coins

>>56765796
>>56765739
49.99 any quantity. Called it.

>>56762109

>>56765894
nice

>Expecting kilo be delivered
>not home to sign
>not delivered today
>mfw

>>56762860
>>56762873
Looks a bit better than the ebay pics, can you feel the despair of the slaves who worked the silver mines when you fondle that ancient chonker?
>>56762901
very cool, that nigga is thicc
>>56764802
What a great deal! They're old ones too, that's an excellent slurp my fren.
>>56761506
>>56761511
>152gr Uniplat stew spoon from Angers, 1750.
Goddamn that is an awesome spoon, I really hope you can get it. The hallmarks are superb and the Crowned Angers mark in particular is amazing

englehard or matthey?

>>56766157
wait until the next hour starts. those engelhard 100 ouncers are one of the deals on apmex

PM's moon after the 4 day weekend in the US

just sat on my sunglasses, now they fit better.

>>56762969
>>56763382
>>56763424
That is a shit deal frens, genuine solid silver Alexander drachms are pretty common and cheap in circulated condition, but that coin is a hideous contemporary counterfeit "Fourrée" drachm, where they wrapped and fused a base metal core with thin silver. For some reason Iron was often used as the core for counterfeit silver coins back then, silver adheres better to copper but my guess is that they used iron so the contrast in color wouldn't be as stark if someone chiseled into it to take a peek at its internal composition.

>>56765868
yes they're fine when they have good deals ,stop being paranoid

>>56766295
interesting. thought there was way to much non silver coloration

>Black Friday "sales"
>$25+ for Asahi rounds
I sincerely hope none of you are buying right now. These prices are atrocious.

silver appears to be up

>>56763461
>Idk if you're trolling but, the prices of PMs against the USD are kept low via a coordinated effort by international banks that enables the various debt based fiat currencies around the world to exist as they do. If/when the price of PMs are fully realized against fiat, the average person will likely be priced out of

This is what silver stacking retards believe and it's exactly what coin merchants tell them. I actually feel bad for this retard gonna be poor his whole life because he watched too many commercials like a boomer

why aren't they listing any black friday nice ones

hey a 5oz libertad for $172 isn't bad

>>56762109
Silver and gold. Land and lead. Stacking these until the day when I start stacking bodies.

Thinking I'll get a couple more silver krugs and golden 2rands to keep next to the Afrikakorps stuff I'm buying. Seems thematically appropriate.

>>56763679
Bingo

>>56765978
>can you feel the despair of the slaves who worked the silver mines when you fondle that ancient chonker?
When i rub the Heracles you can hear a slight "izipizi" if you are concentrated enough.

>What a great deal! They're old ones too, that's an excellent slurp my fren.
Yeah it's not much but i never say no to cheapie LMU. I didn't check out if there is a rare date among those, unlikely but already happened.

>Goddamn that is an awesome spoon, I really hope you can get it.
Me too, but realistically it will be tough, lot of ppl started to follow today. Damned cheapies stealers! I'm ready to go spot +15% because the hallmarks are in great condition, but no further.

ps : what do you think of this tetradrachm of Alexander the Great? Seller is asking 300€ for it, do you think it's a good price?

>>56766506
reverse

>he doesn't have a burnished bat boy
Why even live?

plz use my pic in a future bake

>>56766473
ya but going for that kilo stackable..

>>56765478
Kektop....all of a sudden it's not a commodity it's a fun way of paying a 386% premium to your fren

>>56766493
>until the day when I start stacking bodies.
Stop being an edgy faggot dude, grow up.

>>56766526
God, it was so annoying back during the scamdemic when 50% of the OPs had a 5ozer batboi as thread pic.

>>56766551
somebody's jel

>>56766548
Do you know where you are? I literally will not stop sucking dicks, and if you don't watch yourself I'll make sure that yours is next.

>>56766555
Checked but lets be honest for a second : the design is ugly as sin.

>>56766578
Post your bat kid

>>56766568
based sneaky dick grabber

>>56766593
I.. uh.. i-it's in my safe, i can't show it for now because i.. uh.. i lost the key!

>>56766514
damn good looking

Of course it pumped super hard today. Ill just wait for the next dip as these "deals" were just regular prices a week ago.

>>56766473
Where?

>>56766593

>>56766548
>>56766568
kek. I know exactly where I am.

>>56766646
https://www.apmex.com/black-friday-deals
69 left

>>56766363
>interesting. thought there was way to much non silver coloration

I had meant to reply to this instead of anon talking about APMEX:
>>56763408
>by the green tarnish on the right, id guess its copper impurities showing through

I'm a bit perplexed by the green, I bet it's just corrosion that adhered from other coins or copper alloy items it was buried next to, but if not that then maybe the forger used a layer of copper in-between the iron and silver to help prevent delamination? I'm no master of metallurgy though so mebbe that's BS.

>>56763131
>>56763169
>it never crossed my mind for the longest time simply because i thought it wasn't accessible to the average Joe.

I've commented on this before, it's an important factor which I believe makes ancient coins a great long-term investment. Most people still assume ancient coins and artifacts are super rare and only to be found in museums, but thanks to the internet peoples' exposure to the fact that they're actually pretty cheap and accessible has given the ancient end of the numismatic world a lot of genuine momentum. The past 30 years of the internet era have been great for educating and exposing new people, and I believe the momentum and growth will continue on this trajectory so in another 20-30 years there may well be millions more people than at present who are interested and actively seeking at least a few pieces to help them connect with history. When I was in 1st grade my dad took me to the Baltimore MD coin show and I bought 2 ancient Greek bronzes from a dealer who had a bowl full of them languishing on the corner of his table for $1 each. I almost immediately lost one at my school lol, but still have the other one (from Sidon, in pic). Now you'd be lucky to find the same bowl of identifiable ancient Greek coins for $10 each, but the demand wasn't sufficient 30 years ago for them to move quickly even at just $1. I bet they'll appreciate faster than inflation over the next 30 years too.

>>56766610
that sounded like bat-shaming to me

>>56766664
oh lordy look at that beautiful little rodent

>>56766568
>>56766697
If you incite violence at this day and age on 4chan, well, that's glowie tier behavior. Stop being foolish.

>>56766807
no one should take any of this too seriously.
we're here for the shitposting and bants half the time.

Found this one in my old belongings...

>>56766506
>ps : what do you think of this tetradrachm of Alexander the Great? Seller is asking 300€ for it, do you think it's a good price?

Great looking coin, I'm *slightly* suspicious of authenticity because of a few features that might indicate it's cast, but the pics aren't in focus so it's probably just from crystallization of the ancient silver and not orange-peel texture often seen on cast pieces.

Also, while the face of hercules wearing the Nemean lion's skin is purportedly Alexander's it's not actually a tetradrachm of Alexander and is instead a more scarce coin struck under one of his successors. I have one with the reverse showing in pic. The name is written behind the seated Zeus, and the first letter is mostly off-planchet but it clearly reads ΣΕΛΕΥΚΟΥ, can you use what you learned in your Greek classes and tell me who it is without looking it up?

>>56766827
the 406 was such a good, simple and nice looking car, i miss her.

>>56766807
>stop it!
>inciting violence in (((current year))) is not okay!

Alright bub, now you've gone too far. You got about twenty seconds while I gargle this cherry flavored lube to take your pants off and get ready for me, I'm on a tight schedule today so no pussyfooting around or else I'll have to double-barrel throat you along with my next appointment

Spot Saint Helenas for any burger bros
https://www.apmex.com/product/230850/saint-helena-1-25-oz-silver-rose-crown-guinea-bu-random-year

Why does the Royal Mint not fix their milk spot issues. Even the Mexicans know how to avoid this shit. Get your act together bongs.

>>56762109
Incoming spot price gold phil.

>>56766856
Sadly i already looked it up beforehand to try to know more about this coin (most of which i found were in the $300 range too, so not that sexy of a deal), but i 100% would have failed identifying Seleucus.

hey this is an interesting deal
1.25oz coins at spot

>>56766963
apmex? i've been meaning to pick up a few more or those.

>>56766972
damn I think I gotta buy some too. a cool coin at spot

>>56766963
>>56766975
it just went live 15 min ago, better be quick these deals reset hourly and some sell out quick

https://www.apmex.com/product/230850/saint-helena-1-25-oz-silver-rose-crown-guinea-bu-random-year

>>56766975
thanks for posting that one. wouldn't have seen it otherwise.

I'm creating an Excel sheet of all my holdings, more for my own knowledge and for insurance purposes. Could someone help me calculate the total silver content of coins please?

Do I just multiply the weight by the purity? So a 28.28g/0.909 tr oz coin at a purity of 0.925 would be 26.159g/0.84 tr oz of actual silver content?

>>56766991
made it in time

My little owl coin. I bought this a couple years ago. Thought it would be the most liquid ancient coin to invest in. Slightly worried the chinese plastic holder I have it in could damage the silver somehow. The owl strike is good but the head strike fucking sucks.

>>56767042
these are picky about tubes for anyone ordering. they fit well in krug tubes. they don't fit in brit or ark tubes. they're also a little thick for normal 39mm capsules. if you use the maple specific 38mm top with a 39mm bottom it will fit the entire coin without leaving a gap.

>>56767042
nice i bought 7 too kek. should be a nice amount of silver

>>56767055

>>56767040
yes, weight * purity should do it

>>56766952
I paid $194.50 total for mine, not a great deal but a more fair price for a Seleucus Nicator tet like that, 300 euros is around retail so you should be patient and try to get a better deal. Especially when a seller lists dozens at the same time and overwhelms the market I've seen common but pretty nice looking Alexander tetradrachms sell for under $80-100 each, and you can get them for under $200 much more easily and frequently.

>>56767055
classic
>>56766766
thanks for the info

they have this in stock too...god damnit lmao

https://www.apmex.com/product/287000/1-oz-silver-round-scottsdale-omnia-type-2

>>56767150
ah in stock at scottsdale too. sorry for spamming

https://www.scottsdalemint.com/product/scottsdale-omnia-type-2-1-oz-silver-round/

18 minutes or less to get those st helenas at spot. i think they will sell out

>>56767055
>My little owl coin

Is it not a tetradrachm, or just "little" compared to broader but lighter half dollars etc. we're more used to? The smaller Athenian silver drachms and fractions are much more uncommon than their tetradrachms. Yeah the diameter of that thiccer planchet couldn't capture all of Athena's head but the centering is good and the condition/surfaces are nice, it didn't circulate much. I'd be happy to have that coin it's still pretty nice, you'd have to pay a shitload for a nice grade well centered one with a planchet wide enough to capture all of the obverse die.

>>56767209
What an incredible coin on the right, i love it! Are those countermarks on the left & bottom sides?

i would love to buy some silver, but considering market trends, the price is going WAY up.
to buy now sounds foolish. i actually wanted to own a small personal collection, is there something i should watch out for?
>>56764867
>>56766846
>>56766493
you watch out there, german silver coins are about 900er silver.

>>56767209
Yeah its a tetradrachm, so not little for the time. It is still a little coin compared to modern currency. Apparently it was about a week of pay for a soldier.

>>56767042
Holy SHIT people are eating up those Helena's right now.
Good thing l bought some.

>>56762309
OK, I see him now.
I also like how the Goldberg immediately agreed

>>56767241
>Are those countermarks on the left & bottom sides?

Yessir, 4 different countermarks, which all thankfully left the slinger and triskelion (the subjects on the coin most important to me essentially untouched.

In pic is a 28.43g, 31mm cast lead sling bullet from the 4th-3rd century BC with an embossed 3-legged Triskelion motif, a symbol prevalent in the ancient world but which was used as the city symbol for Aspendos and neighboring Selge in Asia Minor and reportedly painted on the shields of their soldiers. From what I have read, the slinger-mercenaries of Aspendos were highly skilled and effective so they were sought out and hired by other polities, with them being held in such esteem that those silver staters depicting a slinger holding his sling overhead and the Triskelion symbol of the city in the field were the standard large silver coinage struck there for over a century. I can't prove it, but I'm quite certain that this sling bullet embossed with the triskelion was made and used by the slinger-mercenaries of Aspendos, and that bullets just like it would have been carried in the bullet pouches and launched from the slings of men like the slinger depicted on their coinage. The coins cost more but the bullet is the best of only 2 I've ever seen, definitely much more rare.

>>56762172
Can someone explain this to me?
>>56762151
This too, why did they remove it from foreign exchange swaps? How does showing their holdings accurately on paper help or hinder them?

What actually caused the pump?

Pmg bros you never fail me

I just bought this ring, are these rubies or is it garnet? How to tell?

And I’m assuming this is 18k but what does T mean, can anyone explain the mark?

>>56767055
Checked. Nice owl coin

>>56767656

>>56767666
Based on the pixels the gems are definitely plastic and the metal is gold plated tungsten.

>>56767055
>>56767072
No satanic demonic freemasonary shit on here please.

>>56767656
>>56767666
gemstones are off topic
honestly it's enough already with all these pmg subcultures
let's get back to the basics
silver and gold bullion

>>56767682
>>56767707
So it’s fake?

>>56766807
reminder federal employees are agents of tyranny and deserve whatever comes to them

>>56767707
>silver and gold

Platinum is still precious damnit.

>>56767648
the increased demand for silver?

>>56766932
their excuse is that it's just bullion. milky and scratched to hell out the tube

>>56767666
nice ring. garnets as a guess

>>56767748
Bro, I can't tell shit from pixels. Take it to a pawn shop and see what they'll offer you for it, they'll tell you straight up if it's real.

>>56767656
>>56767666
Nice ring satan, did you get it cheap? I dunno what the "T" means but the 18k/750 mark suggests it was made outside the USA where the metric system reigns and they like using millesimal (750/1000) fineness instead of the archaic karat system. Dunno about the stones but being so small if they're not pyrope I don't see why they wouldn't use rubies, small stones are cheap but rubies are easier to sell to roasties than garnets.

>>56767707
>honestly it's enough already with all these pmg subcultures

lol cope

>>56767656
>>56767666
>>56767810
i am pretty sure that ruby fluorsced under UV light.
get a little UV lamplight and shine on it, i guess?

back on topic: silver jumped - buy when?

>>56762109
since stones are also precious and most often found and kept alongside precious metals, what does /pmg/ think of sapphires?
thinking about picking up these rough bits. one kilo raw from madagascar
>>56767707

>>56767848
I’m just curious what T before the 18K means, 750 I’m assuming is purity so 18k falls in line but what’s the T? I can’t find info on that

>>56767810
I’m thinking garnet as well but one of the gems is a lighter shade and I know rubies can vary tons of shades. Either way I paid $100 for the ring so essentially paid half in gold value and the rest for the gems + setting. The T is throwing me off though makes me think it’s plated.

Its a gift for the wife so just verifying it.

Here’s a solid chunk of 128g of 18k gold to appease the on topic anons

>>56767862
>>56767854
Thanks for input

>>56762109

>>56767904
silver is big on going on trails and outdoor camping now?
because it hiked.

>>56767874
nice 18white
a 10k white gold and a b.s. stone i got suckered into as a youngster

>>56767874
Oh hey heir-anon, have you taken any fresh pictures of other antiques or artifacts you haven't shared with us before?

>>56762109
Are apmex deals done for today or just taking a break?

>>56767952
No I havent my friend I probably won’t be able to for awhile, but as soon as im able i will post here to share with you guys for sure.

>>56767866
>thinking about picking up these rough bits. one kilo raw from madagascar

I'd imagine those are basically just industrial grade corundum, and even if there were portions in-between fractures and inclusions in the crystals that are gem quality they would require lots of trimming and faceting to have any value as gems. They might be worth a little to novice mineral specimen collectors or moonbat crystal-witches though.

>>56768023
>as soon as im able i will post here to share with you guys for sure

Hell yeah, you inherited some cool stuff man.

>>56768052
yeah. obviously not facet grade those blues.
these are pretty tho. couldnt say about the price or value

>>56768023
im interested as well if you want to show some pieces when u can

>>56768131
I can post what I posted before but that’s up to y’all, I don’t have any new stuff to show

>>56768109
I enjoy the more pink/purple shaded stones, pyrope garnets are nice and I've read that they can be collected in my state. Apparently people look for anthills in the areas the gems occur and then dig up and sift the hills for stones the ants encounter deep underground while excavating their burrows and then haul up to dispose of on the surface.

>>56768158
damn ants are the original miners
>>56768149
ya just post one if you like. i wasnt here

>>56762109
I live within walking distance of the Perth Mint.

What do?

>>56768209
go in and perform an citizen's audit

anons partial to black opal?
i may or may not have a twin piece set but not on hand atm

>>56768006
probably have more shit monday

>>56768006
yeah seems to have stopped at 6pm est. too bad, i was having fun with those hourly deals. most sucked but there were a few gems

pearls? birds love pearls

>>56768284
First deal of the day was good. Never complain about a spot 10oz

>some faggot from estonia has been spamming /pol/ with garbage tier threads all day
Odds on spot dropping $3 on Monday? I'm feeling a strong drop in my bones.

>>56768252
I’ll post some jewelry and leave the interesting stuff for the next thread

>>56768451
wow very nice. 24k? and the stone?

>>56768451
That ring is my favorite stone as it looks amazing in different lights, the huge amethyst typically a royal purple but shades of red and blue at glimpses, the best.

This one is the only platinum ring I have, 2 large pearls with emerald and diamonds inside.

All the jewelry I have is pre 1940, my oldest is an English Victorian ring

>>56768458
That’s 18k I believe

This was made early 1900s, 1900-1920, from a Chicago jeweler

Don’t know the stone on this

>>56768484
ya 18k makes sense for the prongs sake lol
all beautiful pieces

>>56768509
This is the oldest ring I have, classic and simple Victorian, gem is amethyst

>>56768389
Will probably happen after the cybermonday deals on Tuesday.

>>56768519
And last jewelry piece is a white gold garnet center with sapphires and small diamonds in the side
I’ll post all the interesting stuff next thread

>>56768530
Oops here it is.

>>56768519
im a fan of amethyst as well

>>56762969
Tokayo

>>56768536
It really shouldn't have taken long for them to figure out that was bunkus.

>>56768663
2tru3 bruv

>>56767692
is this masonic or satanic?
something something 6?

>>56767692
Dude, it's a 2600 year old coin from ancient greece. The owl is suppose to symbolize the Athens and the wisdom of Athena. Ancient Greece literally predates all the Hebrew/Christcuck/Freemason/Globohomo shit and jewish people were internationally despised in every part of the world during this period of time and faced persecution everywhere they went.

>>56768761
>>56762109
indestructible gold

>>56768252
Opals are so cool and black opals especially. There was a /pol/ thread about a year ago where some anon claimed he was illegally mining them in Australia and it devolved into a shit fest about the skills needed to actually extract opals...I learned a lot. If I were into jewelery I'd definitely have one.

Black Friday haul…
5 oz silver at spot
1/4 oz gold at 9% over spot
1 gram gold at spot
I am disappointed. To say the least

>>56769051
10oz Silver at Spot
5 1oz rounds at spot
4 cull peace dollars to make free shipping

>>56769029
amazing variety to be found in opal too
big ups to the aussies

>>56769087
Very nice anon. I got “greedy” I guess and was waiting for stuff I really wanted to go on sale or stuff to catch my eye. Im upset at myself for letting the 20 franc rooster at spot on apmex pass me by. But that’s all I feel like I missed out on. Most other deals kinda sucked.

>>56766526
Why not two bat boys

>>56766526
By the way, what the fuck it it doing out of its capsule?

>>56762109
The upward progress silver makes compared to gold is honestly pathetic

>>56769382
>Rock shiny
>me like shiny rock
>rock look like moon
>moon rock go tiiiiiiiiinnngggg

>>56769382
>CHARTS
Keep moving nigger, this /pmg/ SILVERTOWNE, /smg/ has some good chart recommendations for you, surely.

>>56769455
Yes.

>>56764750

>>56766440
Uh-huh meanwhile in reality. You have actual history, recent even, you cam refer to that supports the others anons observation

>>56769572
based.
more rocks, less cloth

>>56769574

>>56768536
>amethyst drinking vessel
now there's a thought but there are probably equally nicely purple options out there for less

>>56762109

>>56769620
Women do not exist

>>56769148

Opals and gemstones are beautiful but the investment grade ones have drawbacks. They aren’t divisible in the least, for one. You can’t shave off chunks of a $50000 emerald and keep a $45000 emerald and sell $5000.
But if you ever need to smuggle your entire net worth out of the country in your ass, gems are probably the way to go.

>>56769644
Correct

New thread >>56769735

>>56769739
>tfw no 100oz bar pyramid.

>>56768252
black opal is amazing. I want a diamond and black opal pendant.

if I ever get rich I want to have an 18k watch made with black opal set in the links.

>>56766440
show one commercial shown on American TV where they talk about the suppression of precious metals by international banks. I'm Canadian but it's not something I've seen from my exposure to American television.