/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56760382
>Closed source with NSA backdoor to send your private key to the cloud
You ledger shills aren't fooling anyone. Second attempt at shilling this garbage today

>>56760395
Every HWW with a secure element is closed source.

And the ones that don't have a secure element are easily hacked.

>>56760406
Retard take. If someone gets physical access to your wallet you already lost. Take your paid shilling elsewhere

>>56760395
he said it
trow away that crap

>>56760441
And use what instead?

>>56760382
retard alert.
backdoor to extract your seed to cloud "to help you to recover it if you forget it". putting any money on that is <50IQ

>>56760449
If you want to be based and redpilled you will buy a Ledger. Only cool nazis can own the special Ledger. TKD. Based anons buying Ledgers to take down globohome

>>56760382
If you don't save it here or on any hardware wallet, which wallet will you do so?
Okay you can opt for self custody like Metamask, Tokenpocket, and even KIMBERLITE wallet which is building something super solid.

>>56760395
Where should I store then?

>>56760395
this has been debunked retard

>>56760382
I for one don't feel comfortable keeping my coins a glorified USB drive. What if I lose it? What if it dies or breaks? What if I forget my seed phrase?

I keep all my crypto on Coinbase. Hardware wallets are overrated/ Just make sure you have a s trong passowrd + google authenticator 2FA.

>>56760406
That's why you use strong cryptography to protect your seed phrases and maybe even have a paper backup but don't keep your big wallets online at all. The blockchain itself is the data storage layer.

>>56760382
Ledger is your best option outside of writing your own wallet software on a pi.

>But m-muh backdoo - ACK!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8jednQQFx4

Ledger is closed source and proprietary.
Two words that are poison to security.
Cold wallet, or Trezor, followed by TailsOS, then virtual machine, then old cell phone, then the retarded responses.

>>56760382
>Why shouldn't I keep my net worth on this thing?
That thing is not heaven. Store up treasure in heaven.

>>56760382
because its a glorified USB stick?

just get a USB stick and password zip your phrase/key

>>56761799
>boot from ubuntu usb
>trial ubuntu
>airplane mode
>create offline wallets
>zip them
>copy to a couple more USBs incase of corruption

>>56761820
dont zip the public addresses

>>56760413
Where do you store your net worth?

>>56760382
you're NOT keeping it on this thing dummy

>>56761824
>don't zip the public address
Try not to eat the mouse or get drool on the keyboard, either.
You all could do with some /g/ learning.
Some of you special needs kids are putting the square block in the round hole.

>>56761838
i mean keep a text file out of your zipped stuff so you can see your addy if needed. relax buddy

>>56761606
>I keep all my crypto on Coinbase

>>56761577
>deboonked
It has not, the company said they won't extract your keys without consent but the sole possibility that your keys can be extracted at all makes the device trust based, just a step above having your cryptos on an exchange.

>>56761863
Any HWW manufacturer can do the same thing, even air gapped coldcard could leak your seed phrase if the manufacturer wanted to

>>56760395
If this doesn't deter you from this French fuck faggot device...

They were hacked and everyone's names, emails, phone numbers, and home address were released to the world.

I receive 100 crypto scam emails a day. Fake Coinbase emails, fake Binance emails, fake Kraken emails. Daily. Because of this shit company.

Fuck them.

>>56761876
Source? Also ledger is closed source, while trezor is open source for exemple, so if it was backdoored it could be seen in the code

ledger allows the government to backdoor and steal your cryptocurrency.
the US government.
still, best place to store your crypto!
slava ukraini!
Israel is our greatest ally!

>>56760382
>asking /biz/ about opsec
/biz/ told me to get a tattoo of my seed phrase for maximum security, so I did. By the time I got home, my wallet was empty. Not sure what happened but I won't do it again.

>>56760395
NSA don't care about your 1.9k of BTC

>>56762983
I get on average 2 indian scammers a week on the phone because of this

>>56763051
Wrong. Kike.

>>56763059
Thankfully my Pixel blocks about 20 spam calls/day.

>>56763115
Whats the move then? My workflow back in the day was
>buy on exchange
>tx out to software wallet (blockchain.info)
>tx out to paper wallet made offline with walletgenerator
Then at sell time I just went straight into the exchange.
I'm just thinking of the security layers, for instance, the exchange email is personalized with authenticator 2fa, the exchange account is 2fa, the software wallet is personalized and has it's own 2fa, nothing uses email or phone number authentication etc.
Thus your biggest security hole is in the cold storage, that your private at some point in the process is leaked.
Is it worth splitting a large amount into several wallets of smaller amounts? Does it make a practical difference
Paper wallets still a good way to hold mass amounts of crypto? Assume that I can assure the safety of keys/words.
A long time ago I didn't really care but now that it's muh sicks figs I'm really worried all the time that I'm missing something and my coins are vulnerable.

>>56760382
>Drops it in the toilet
GG chud

>>56761575
Air gapped OpenBSD laptop

>>56760382
It's up to you. I couldn't sleep at night knowing that Ledger was forcing a potential vulnerability into their firmware. I finally ate the whole shit sandwich and moved all my ctypto to a Trezor. I ended up paying a hefty fee because I'd been DCA'ing BTC for many years. But at least my UTXOs are consolidated and I can rest easy knowing that Ledger has no access to my keys.

i'm so happy i bought a trezor instead, who in their right mind would continue using a ledger, it's closed source and they already said they could extract your seed from your device, you would have to be a big retarded boi to keep using it after that mess, are you guys gonna risk hundreds of thousands in crypto just because you don't want to buy another cold wallet for a hundred bucks? retaaard