/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56729364
Vegetarian diet is literally the healthiest diet you can follow. Highest rates of proper nutrition and lowest rates of heart disease and cancer.
Vegan diet is arguably healthier if done properly but it's hard to gauge since so many people don't do it properly. I've been a vegan forever and feel great.

>>56729364
i like onions as well, but i don't see why onions make you pale.

unless you're a s.oy beta

this is the peak? when you lose your mind you only think about onions? that's fucked up man

>>56729370
You VILL eat ze turnips, und you VILL be happy!

>>56729388
Except there's no one who is trying to force you to eat turnips. And the guy you're mimicking is a wealthy capitalist so all of the rightwing people who mimic him really have no right to do so and are just making fools of themselves.

>>56729364
>lowers his IQ to save money

lmao?

>>56729370
>Highest rates of proper nutrition and lowest rates of heart disease and cancer

hahahahaha imagine still not having figured out that all these studies are made up to get plebs to stop eating meat

its a literal agenda 2030 psyop and a midwit filter

meat from a reputable source is the best nutrition available.

>>56729424
It's all a big conspiracy anon. Everyone is in on it. Billions of people have gotten together unilaterally in an evil conspiracy to make you eat your veggies.

Worst part about it of all? Even your own mom was in on it. Remember when you were younger and she was like "eat your veggies anon!". Yeah, that's cuz we own her.

>>56729400
What ever you say dude, I was memeing

s.o.i will make u a gay faggot like all plastic vegan food

>>56729364
i eat shit with onions just to get by at work, if i was mistaken for a fucking alien for having skin with more rights than the average white guy, i'd be happy knowing i now have a bed in area 51

>>56729434
IDK what you expect that to matter. You post a political meme that carries a political message and then try to divorce yourself from the political statement when someone tells you why it's dumb. I dunno your wrongness is not my problem.

>>56729429
>billions of people are in on it

nope, but billions of people are absolute retards who will believe anything if it comes from a figure of authority (you are in this category btw)

the only people you need to be "in on it" are the universities, and universities need funding. guess where this funding comes from

>>56729455
It's not possible for this imaginary conspiracy you envision to be true due to peer review and replication and the fact that people study these things independently from one another in different labs and nations all over the world. FFS.

>>56729364
what a fully retarded thread

>>56729461
you are literally braindead.

imagine actually believing for a second that a vegetarian diet is superior to a balanced diet consisting of meat, fish, veggies and fruit.

>>56729473
Well it is, healthwise. It's pretty clear vegetarian is the healthiest diet and I mean it's not that controversial to say if you ask actual doctors rather than random dudes on the internet who swear anything that doesn't fit in with the republican party's political agenda is an invisible conspiracy

>>56729461
Lmaoooo
>n-nooooooo u dont g-get it, s-see these s-studies were all peer reviewed

>>56729370
I’ve been vegan 15 years. It’s been funny watching the world slowly catch up with me.

>>56729364
why not just keep going but with onions? the transformation is more complete if you just go for the real shit

Only wealthy jews should be allowed to eat meat.

>>56729482
Uh huh yup that's right they're peer reviewed and replicated independently multiple times, in multiple countries, from multiple sources. Over and over and over and over and over and over. Decade after decade. Vegetarianism is the most healthy option.

Although I reiterate that vegan probably is the most healthy option and it's just that most people don't take proper supplements on vegan diets.

>>56729485
Yeah veganism rocks bro. Once in a while I'll maybe miss pizza cuz I used to eat it when I was a kid and it makes me nostalgic for that, but FFS I can't even imagine eating meat or wanting to. Literally the grossest shit ever. Ever

>>56729504
>vegan diet most healthy
>need to take supplements

Hahahahahahhahaha, cognitive dissonance at its best. Youve been brainwashed kiddo

Did u take the vaxx too?

>>56729364
you're just a shut in you retard. its not the soi

>>56729519
Wait until you learn the B12 you're so proud of getting "naturally" from cows isn't actually there naturally, and instead all comes from farmers giving them B12 supplements.

>>56729511
Yeah, I loved pizza as a kid too. I just loved junkfood period. I gave all of it up when I was 18. I’m on the stricter end of things when it comes to nutrition, but every now and then I’ll treat myself to a vegan pizza or something like that, which can be pretty decent.

>>56729519
Not that anon, but I’m unvaxxed, and never got the coof.

GIVE ME BASEDYYY NOT FUCKING ONIONS, WHO THE FUCK ACTUALLY LIKES ONIONS??!! THAT'S A FUCKING FRUIT

>>56729519
There is strong evidence for vegetarian diets being extremely healthy. You know a lot of this research started by identifying areas where people are living abnormally long lives compared to the rest of the world, like heavy concentration of 100+ individuals. Many of these places have one thing in common: A diet which is mostly vegetarian, and even if its not completely, the eat very little meat compared to average diet. I personally choose to still eat fish once or twice a week, but I feel so much better and more energy since I stopped consuming all dairy products and eating a mostly veggie diet. Don't dismiss it outright if you haven't tried

>>56729528
I primarily eat venison, and thats high in b12. Who Is supplementing my deers with B12?

Now did u take the vaxx or not?

>>56729543
onions are great stfu nerd

>all the newfags in this thread that dont know s. ö. y will get Auto filtered to onions

Back to plebbit with you fags

>>56729540
Pretty much same with me though surprisingly I never tried a vegan pizza or any other food marketed as some sort of vegan substitute since when I was young and well prior to me becoming vegan. Never once and IDK why

>>56729552
No. No you do not "primarily eat venison" and no one will ever understand why peeps like you always think you're making some impressive point by saying the most pointless and non sequitur contrarian things on 4chan.

>>56729504
Based. Trying my best to get off meat. Don’t really consume dairy anymore as that’s pretty easy. But not earning much money makes eating a healthy variety hard so sometimes the decomposing lumps of animal flesh are needed. WFPB diet is the goal and we will reach it.

>>56729560
Honestly, the majority of the vegan mock meats and such aren’t even worth it. They really are just junkfood. What I appreciate about those products is that they help people change to a plant-based diet. I’d rather people eat ethical junkfood. I’ll take good homecooked meals over that shit any day though. I made some black lentils and broccoli for dinner, topped with chives, nutritional yeast, and turmeric. Super nutritionally dense and satiating.

But anyway, I wouldn’t say you’re missing out by skipping the processed crap.

>>56729571
You are an absolute tranny. Get the fuck off my Board. And yes, i do eat primarily deer and wild boar that i Hunt in the austrian alps you fucking troon.

>>56729583
Yeah because you're a gun pussy.

>>56729583
Nope. Nope you don't "primarily eat deer or wild boar that you hunt". Nope. And nope no one cares when you randomly whine that anyone who isn't in your queer republican meateating-and-capitalism deathcult cult is a "tranny"

>>56729571
>>56729552
>>56729528
>gets absolutely rekt, proceeds to tell anon that he still is right

god i hate vegans so fucking much, you literally shifted your goal post from one post to the next and still believe youre the smartest in the room.

but apparently you cant solve this riddle:

>vegan diet most healthy
>have to take supplements

>>56729600
That's interesting that you have a worldview which stipulates I "got wrecked" because anon responds with a totally pointless non sequitur about how he eats deer meat. Who knows man it would take a massive team of scientists, equipment and funding to understand the sort of stupidity that lives in 4chan rightwing minds.

>>56729600
Humans are omnivores that didn't have all these ways to eat a bunch of meat 24/7.

>>56729600
So do meat eaters. You just get it from different sources. Most meat eaters are deficient anyway. I would take consuming a small supplement over not developing the top 3 killers worldwide any day .

>>56729588
>gun pussy

I own exactly one rifle and only use it for hunting, how else should i kill the animal?

>>56729592
Alright, youre a typical troon burger and there is no need to discuss with you because youre absolutely delusional.
I grew up on the country and its very normal here to eat a lot of venison.

You unironically lack the mentalisation capabilities to have a normal discussion because you cant get it into your head that people have different lives than yours.

>>56729617
Use a spear you made yourself.

>>56729370
>doesn't understand statistics and posts on /biz/
like pottery

>>56729613
This is true in africa where niggers could just pick berries all year long.
Meat Was the primary source of food for people in europe in the Winter.
After Agriculture got invented people shifted away from the nomadic way of living and started to eat more grain.
This is also why people with bloodgroup O should eat more meat. (bc its the oldest bloodgroup for u retarded niggers)

there is truly nothing more high estrogen then a "man" who thinks eating meat is masculine or not eating it is feminine
literally bought and sold by the kikes

>>56729706
>not a single mention of this in the whole thread
are you ok lil bro?

>>56729364
I became vegan to get laid but I dream of meat every night. Any vegan that says they don't are lying or are retarded. It's impossibly to not crave juicy, delicious meat unless you are braindead.

>>56729370
>>56729400
>vegan faggot shows up
>2 posts later talks about capitalism and rightwing and about every conspirationist on earth
>doesn't even remember hitler was vegetarian
This pottery is too much.

>>56729727
This is wholly untrue. Again, I’ve been vegan 15 years. It’ll be 16 come January. And even then, when I first became vegan, I never craved meat. I won’t argue that some people will continue to crave meat, but to suggest that everyone vegan secretly does is absurd. When I think of meat, I want to vomit. If you’re talking about things meat is seasoned with, then that makes more sense, but at the same time, if you want something chewy and fatty that’s well-seasoned, then fry up some tofu and season it.

>>56729750
now go look up the nutritional value of a piece of venison vs your piece of processed s. ö. y.

>>56729364
In recent years I've been adding even more meat in my diet, tho I already ate a lot of meat. Bloodwork is perfect and I'm feeling even better than before

>>56729760
Why? I’m not an ancient human living in the wilderness where eating an animal is a matter of life and death. I can eat tofu, lentils, beans, grains, nuts, etc. I don’t need to compare anything I eat to meat because it’s already been done. If it were not possible to live healthy on a plant-based diet, then I’d be dead already, and so would thousands of other people who adopted this way of living decades before me.

>>56729370
Incredibly based and factual pilled

>>56729797
Ure retarded. A less healthy diet wont necessarily lead to death. Not everything is black and white anon, but seeing everything like that is a hallmark of a reddit midwit, so just go back.

>>56729429
popular communist speaks about how capitalism is all about brainwashing the plebs into submission.

Why can't they see that this is done with nutrition and cant process what kind of food is currently most vilified - meat. The most glorified is vegan diet fodder.

The powers that be want you to eat vegan slop., while getting IBS from it

>>56730011
If there is any kind of "conspiracy" around meat consumption studies, its in the favor of meat eating. This is an industry with countless billions and heavy lobbying power, as is the dairy industry. There is strong evidence for vegetarian diets being healthy. A lot of this research started by identifying areas where people are living abnormally long lives compared to the rest of the world, plaes with a heavy concentration of 100+ individuals. Many of these places have one thing in common: A diet which is mostly vegetarian, even if not necessarily 100%. My advice is to not let ideology get in the way of your own health. Try a diet with a lot less meat and a lot more veggies, and cut out dairy its just really bad for you. Stop thinking ideologically and start thinking empirically. You might soon find you actually feel much better and have much more energy than you did on a standard meat heavy diet

>>56730057
countless public examples of ex-vegans that cured themselves of everything by following a all-meat diet. Those don't have studies because studies that puts meat eating ina positive light IS HIGHLY STIGMATIZED for some reason. Including hilarious studies that state that trans-fats is the same as saturated animal derived fat and providing conclusions on the basis of that that saturated fats are bad, which is hilarious

Plant-based food industry IS MUCH FUCKING LARGER than the animal food industry. Look at statistics to verify that. Same with the "supplement industry" - the pharma industry is much larger and you should be afraid of that, not supplements even if you ideally should take them

>>56729989
>less healthy

You’re not a health maximalist, otherwise you’d be vegan. I’ve been on 4chan since 2005, so you can go suck your father’s tiny penis.

>>56730011
The powers that be don’t want you to be vegan, which is why meat and animal-based diets are subsidized, you absolute fucking retard. They want you to be sick. They want you to depend on medication and insurance. You’re a total NPC.

>>56730080
well there are also many examples of people who ate a standard diet and cured themselves of many issues by switching to a vegetarian diet. To me its pretty irrelevant anyway, I tried many different diets and I stick with what works, end of story. Don't get too caught up in ideological bullshit, just find what works for you. For me, optimal diet I've found so far is a vegan diet but eating fish once or twice a week.

VEGANS AND VEGETARIANS ARE LOW TEST FAGGOTS (very annoying ones too)

>Source: the whole universe

>>56730202
>plant based foods arent subsidized
holy shit you're an absolute fucking retard. The plant-based food industry is much more heavily subsidized than any other
>personal insults with no arguments
Yeah, typical narcissistic faggot with a fight stress reaction instead of anything substantial to say just to save his false self-construed image of self which he knows is false

>>56730256
they would fare much better on a all meat diet. Countless examples of people switching from SAD to vegan to their benefit, then switching to all-meat to even greater benefit.

>>56730202
oh so thats why agenda 2030 calls for farmers in europe to stop raising cows?

youre wrong. simple as.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/29/irish-farmers-cull-cows-meet-climate-targets

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/dec/15/netherlands-announces-25bn-plan-to-radically-reduce-livestock-numbers

>>56730332
Really, an all meat diet? I know Jordan Peterson says he eats only boiled beef or something, he's the only person I've heard saying they eat only meat. I'd be willing to give it a go, I'm a very practical person so if it works it works. Have you tried all of these different diets tho, including veggie / vegan or something close to it, or are you just talking about the experience of other people and what they report?

>>56730332
The plant-based food industry? Are you talking about the nascent industry that makes processed mock meats that just rose out of obscurity over the past decade while the modern food market has been dominated by animal-based garbage for a hundred years? You’re the narcissist, which is why you support killing sentient beings when you don’t have to, you little bitch.

>>56730372
These are recent developments, which is exactly what any civilized person would expect after the status quo has been combatted for a decade. I don’t know if you can read, but Agenda 2030 calls for planetary sustainability.

If animal agriculture had not be so heavily subsidized, there would be no agenda 2030. This kind of action is a direct result of overthrowing the current paradigm. You think it just came out of nowhere?

>>56730467
agenda 2030 calls for the total enslavement of the people under the guise of planetary sustainability ftfy.
but youre clearly a good goy and dont dare to use your own brain to think so i guess im screaming into the void.

>agenda 2030 calls for stop in livestock farming
>meat industry is subsidised but muh heckin plant based industry is not
these 2 statements cant be true at the same time my nigger

>>56730416
Petersons Daughter speaks about how she switched from a handful of pills and shit diet to vegan to all raw beef diet (with no pills) extensively in various talks. the main daddy of raw meat eating is Aajonus Vonderplanitz

tried a vegan diet on behest of my now wife. Got bloated to all hell and was hungry all the time despite being physically full of food. The farts were odd as well. My boner was super hard tho, got to give the diet that.

I'm close to all meat, but I'm rather healthy. Made my wife quit veganism and she stopped having allergies.

Personally I'm more in tune with the GAPS diet which prioritizes bone broths. Also reading slowly about Ray Peat approach to health which is completely alien and a different kind of animal - not doing any of that as of now, but have broad plans.


the biggest yutube guy that switched from all vegan to meat while sending videos to his channel is SV3RIGE. He even tried vegan keto. Now he's an insufferable raw-meat eating faggot. But a muscly, energetic, healthy faggot after he switched from vegan eating.
Another channel is "Vegetable Police". Similar thing

>>56730501
whats your blood group?

>>56730467
fucking mass onions production, as well as various grains, fruit, beans and other shit. You are fucking retarded as shit.

By mass producing plant foods you also kill animals, but this is silent so it is rendered void from you conscious. not that I give a fuck. A animal will not be my friend and ally in any significant way, in contrast to a human I can make healthy by educating them in proper nutrition.

>end stage capitalism wants to destroy any meat-producing facilities
>he thinks it's for his own health and not pure profit

>>56729370
>13 replies
Fuck off retarded mainstream follower
>>56729481
Our natural diet is raw meat and wild fruits
https://rumble.com/v1ngve4-youre-mentally-ill-if-you-dont-eat-raw-meat.html

>>56730501
interesting, I'll check it out. I've had a much better experience than you on my mostly vegan diet, but I'm always open to change. I know that guy SV3RIGE actually saw one of videos long ago, seemed like the most insufferable piece of shit imaginable, definitely don't want to take diet advice from him kek

>>56730513
AB- I believe

>>56729364
So is this the state of modern city men?

>>56730499
So, an unsustainable industry being subsidized for a 100 years is the same as a better industry gaining support over the past 10-15 years?

If you’re capable of making a distinction, you should, otherwise you just look like you’re creating a false equivalency because that’s exactly what it is.

>>56730529
You know most plant crops are produced to be fed to livestock, right? The death of animals in crop production is very low, and that is the most important distinction. Being alive in general leads to suffering, but the answer is not suicide. The answer is doing the more ethical thing as far as it is practicably possible.

End stage capitalism ought to be more socialist than it currently is, but that’s beside the point, and ending animal ag would be the most noble thing to occur under a capitalist system.

>>56730592
AB- is an extremely rare blood group and I think you would know it for sure if you had it.
going by your post here >>56730501 i would have guessed youre O.
>>56730611
thats not what we were talking about retard, youre shifting the goalpost. I literally just explained to you that tptb want you to eat plantslob and stop eating meat.

>>56730611
>You know most plant crops are produced to be fed to livestock, right?
Wrong, animals get the shells and other things humans cant eat mostly.
>>56730611
>unsustainable industry being subsidized for a 100 years
?? Farming has been there for way way longer and before it was hunting.
Almost all vegetables we eat did not even exist 1000 years ago, thery are all unnatural

>>56730636
We’re not talking about agriculture in general, which has been around for 12,000-15,000 years. I’m talking about the food industry as it is most relevant to you and I, which is the past 100 years. Obviously we selectively bred animals and plants.

>>56730501
If you believe sverige you are retarded. Look at the cunts hair despite him claiming everything has to be “natural”. Also he is not muscly and openly pushes against it. Sure you can get nutrients etc. from raw meat but there are also many negatives (heme iron etc.). And eating “wild” and “natural” is not sustainable for an ever growing population where plant based is. And imo healthier but each to their own. Do not listen to this insufferable fag tho. He just wants a cult to harvest patreon donations from. Pajeet level shit. Dyor and do what is right for you.

>>56730664
>https://weather.com/news/news/2018-10-03-fruit-so-sweet-zoo-stopped-feeding-them-to-animals

animals are not-nearly as selectively bread as plant-based foods. The predecessrs to modern fruit and veg were UNEDIBLE. Read on the history of the banana

>>56730675
look at his videos where he was Vegan and compare him to now. don't need to listen to what he says.

This piece of history is all on his channel

>>56730664
Define food industry.
Plant farmers are way more industrial then animal farmers.

>>56730702
>look at someone and see how healthy they are.
Smooth brain approach to health. One persons experience does not discredit a mountain of scientific evidence and cultural trends on longevity and avoiding diseases. Dude is legit insane. Haven’t all of his previous mothers of his children/gfs despise him? And close people turned on him cause he is legitimately crazy? Yeh great source.

>>56730773
>mountain of scientific evidence
Yeah midwit trap. Modern science is manipulated shit.
You should always look at people what they are doing and how healthy they are looking afterwards.
>simp
Are you the same guy that simped against him these last weeks?

>>56730773
>reddit retard just cant into implicit knowledge
in other news, water is wet

>>56729615
I will continue to eat meat you seething tranny.

I cannot imagine not eating meat, unironically feel so weak/brittle bones without a bit of meat.

https://youtu.be/YipbULyGnEI?si=IdR07kHLwmaPnQMk

>>56730691
You say that, but there’s evidence to suggest ancient cattle weighed as much as 500 pounds more than their modern day descendants that we bred into existence, for both males and females. Livestock are far more docile. We tend to make them much heavier than their bodies can comfortably support, especially avians. Also, if you haven’t noticed, as humans evolved, our jaw morphology fluctuated. Pre-Hominids wouldn’t have had problems eating what you call inedible fruits and vegetables. By the time Homo Sapiens arrived, we had mastered cooking and could unlock the nutritional potential of just about anything.

>>56730773
>MOUNTAIN OF SCIENCE BROS. TRUST THE EXPERTS.

Why are u even on this board, back to plebbet please with your weak ass diet.

>>56730746
Are you joking? If you’re talking about small scale farming that can’t support a massive population, sure. That would be the same as me saying backyard gardens are more sustainable for ME, and not billions of people. Both industries are mechanized, but only one of them leads to more animals than there are humans being slaughtered every year.

>>56730833
Interesting that now this info is spreading.
5 years ago only sv3rige would talk about it basically. All others were still
>but green veggies are good
>but garlic
And yes i dont eat meat raw usually and i do eat modern food, you dont have to go ful sv3rige to benefit.

>>56730844
No plant farmers are most industrial, so i again ask you to define
>more animals killed
Plant farmers kill way more in the process

>>56730864
What you’re saying is patently false on both accounts. If you eat meat and vegetables, you support the death of billions of animals a year, and whatever small number of animals that die during crop production, so you’re still ethically a worse person.

>>56730895
this planet is built on death and pain you fucking faggot. take it up with yaldabaoth.

you reddit faggots have no idea how brutal nature is.

animals killing other animals to survive is like the most basic pillar of this world. why cant you niggers accept it?

>>56730835
>Ad-hoc rationalizations
Lol. Wild game isn't muvh dissimilar to farm animals. Fruits are literally diabetes inducing now

>>56730960
I’m a 4chan oldfag (2005), and I’ve never had a reddit account. Nature is unforgiving and full of death. That’s something I’d brag about knowing if I were a 14-year-old redditor, so it’s pretty ironic that you’re calling me one.

If you don’t like civilization, then stop using the internet. Don’t larp like you’re part of nature when you exist outside of it.

>>56730998
Fruit doesn’t cause diabetes, eating a diet high in saturated fat while consuming a lot of refined sugar certainly will though. Also, if you don’t like fruit, then don’t eat it. No on needs to eat fruit to live.

>>56731007
i didnt brag nigger, i just showed you that killing animals to survive is a basic pillar of this world. which means that your argument about being ethically better is retarded.

>>56731067
If you and I existed 300,000 years ago, hell, even several thousand years ago, and you called me retarded for saying that, you might be right, but this is 2023, and you have the moral awareness to be better, you just choose not to.

>>56731106
Guess it really boils down to either believing nature knows best vs technology knows best. have a good day sir

>>56731106
Justify your "moral awareness" instead of making it a pillar that shall not be critiqued.

Your "morals" glorify animals over people, which makes it immoral. promotes unhealthy populace just to satisfy your need for what you percieve to be creatures that you share a bond with, but in reality you just cultivate artificially to resemble friendly creatures, often through inhuman breeding practices.

Me being healthy BEATS making some animal happy

>>56731418
You’re wasting your time talking about health. Being vegan is healthier and it’s clinically proven. Humans are animals. We grant rights to ourselves, and animals aren’t lacking any traits that would make them undeserving of the right not to be murdered. Murder is unjust killing. You don’t need to eat meat to survive, therefore, it’s murder, and a violating of rights that moral animals, like myself, advocate for. Not sure what your point was about breeding practices, but I agree, breeding animals into existence to slaughter them is immoral since it’s not necessary.

>>56729364
>wet brain syndrome from lack of B12
Many such cases.

>>56731504
jfc you're still on it. nutrition science is a meme. a year ago they still said that eating red meat is as bad as smoking cigarettes. the entire field has a massive reproducibility crisis and it's virtually impossible to run double blind studies over longer time periods. most people who die from heart disease had it coming for many reasons, eating meat is just a very common denominator which probably also had its effect in combination with a shitty life style. barely anything in this field is "proven" in the scientific sense.

>>56731527
You’re an absolute moron. Wet brain stems primarily from alcoholism because alcoholism inhibits b12 absorption. The take away is to avoid alcohol, not to avoid consuming b12.

>>56731504
>proven
Lived experience of many people speak of veganism wrecking them, and eating meat healing them. The proof is suppressed but media like youtube allows the truth to unveil itself.

Enjoy your masochism over your false-ego

>>56731504
Its not murder and not unjust to kill an animal to eat it faggot. Its called the cycle of life.

>>56729485
Nice, I haven't touched meat in 16 years and at 33 I feel more alive than ever. Do regular blood analysis tho to see everything is in order.

>>56731576
We have cohort studies showing that all-cause mortality is reduced in vegetarians, and further reduced in vegans. It’s not a stretch to say it’s better to be vegan and live a drug-free, active lifestyle than it is to eat meat and live a drug-free active lifestyle. The ethics of veganism just make it all the more compelling. It’s a win-win.

>>56731651
Congrats, dude. You’re based.

>>56731628
So I guess if I murdered you it would be justified since it’s part of the cycle of life.

>>56731689
did they study people eating an all-meat diet? No

>>56731721
you couldnt possibly murder me you weak vegan fag
>>56731152
i will rephrase this statement:
guess it really just boils down to either being a huge delusional fag or not

>>56731721
I dont fear a person whos allies are animals. I feel a bond with people who cares about other people in a real. and no virtue-signaling way. People who are real

Fuck around and find out is true morals

>ignore televised reclaim of health of multiple people switching from vegan to carnivore
>still believe studies that aren't congruent with observed reality
>doesn't believe his own eyes, relies on others to interpret reality in cases that are obvious
You lack scientific curiosity that pushes science forward. One that forms hypotheses that are unproven and pushes through resistance of old theories into proving it's true (despite lack of scientific research)

>>56731790
b-but the s-studies are peer--reviewed!!!!

>>56731760
I didn’t ask who you fear. I’m using your logic. If unjustified killing is part of the cycle of life, then I am allowed to murder you.

Virtue-signaling is the act of upholding virtues that you don’t actually live by to try and demonstrate good character. You care about people as long as it’s convenient for you, like everyone else.

>>56731753
If I did murder you it would justified though. It’s part of the cycle of life.

>>56731790
>multiple people

People switch diets all the time. These people often have eating disorders and don’t follow any particular philosophy. They’re often hypochondriacs who appear to be quite dysgenic. I feel sorry for them, but I’m glad they can find support on the internet where other weirdos will feed their delusions.

>>56731689
>The ethics of veganism just make it all the more compelling
a cow that's been taken care of properly before killing it swiftly with minimal pain has a much better deal at life as many third worlders. and a vastly better life than wild animals, who rarely die surrounded by their loving family but rather get eaten by a pack of wolves while still being alive.

Christ, this entire fucking thread

>>56731918
Breeding animals into existence to commodify them isn’t justified in our civilization either. Humans are moral animals. Non-human animals are not moral. What they do in nature is fine.

>>56731941
the same is being done to you and youre oblivious to it.

>>56731007
>I’m a 4chan oldfag (2005)
Topkek
>>56731106
>moral awareness to be better, you just choose not to.
Ok schlomo this is 100% jew speak

>>56732077
being nice to animals will not change this, makes your burden stronger .

>>56729370
>I've been a vegan forever and feel great.

>>56729400
I eat vegans

>>56731933
It's cool how much energy people spend to not follow the simple rule of "live and let live".

>>56729429
I eat veggies, the cow eats grass, and I eat the cow.

>>56729481
Vegetarian isn't vegan th9ugh, they still eat Animal proteins like eggs and cheese.

Vegans are full on faggots and without modern industry to synthesize B6 and B12 you couldn't survive on a vegan diet.

And garunteed half the B vitamins you get come from animals and the company just doesn't disclose the source so you vegan fags will buy.

>>56729528
B12 comes from cows eating dirt.

>>56729551
Japanese eat whale and they have the longest lifespans. Should we all eat whales?

>>56732667
No, it actually comes from the cobalt salts that farmers put on on the dirt since cobalt is required for b12 synthesis and most soils on farms are depleted of cobalt.

>>56732693
And since the cobalt salts aren’t enough, they also get b12 injections.

Anons, tell me more about this raw beef diet.
I am intrigued.

>>56732704
Where do wild animals get it?

>>56732743
Wild animals don’t live on farms do they? Why do you think farm soils are depleted?

>>56732693
>>56732704
No they dont ive grown up on a farm this is next level bullshit.

>>56732899
No, it’s not bullshit. You growing up on a little family-owned farm isn’t the same as a factory farm in terms of supplementation requirements.

>>56729409
kek

>>56733002
Pigs i think get it, maybe chicken.
Because they live highly unnatural cage live, AND THEY GET FED A VEGAN DIET, which they naturally dont get, so yes then they need supplements.
Cows dont need that if they mostly eat grass like all cows here

>>56729364

> Tyrone just took my wife out for dinner and says I can stay up past 8pm tonight
> I'm going to play the new mario on my switch BING BING WAHOO!!!!

>>56733039
Yes, non ruminants need supplementation since outside a farm they would be omnivorous. Ruminants need cobalt to synthesize b12 in their guts, so if the soils are depleted, it’s not happening. And again, if you’re talking about small-scale farms, it’s not the same. The demand for meat from 8 billion people can’t be sustained by small farms, which is why we have factory farms. Small farms can’t feed the world, period.

>>56733077
The soil is not depleted, and they dont get cobald.
They are outside in the summer and thats enought.
Small scale farms absolutely can feed the world, what matters is meat/milk per km^2, not how many farmers there are.
And green land for cows is crazy good in protein per km^2 btw, and in calories per km^2 gets only beaten by starch plants.
The only problem is organic, see what happened in sir lanka, they starved after going organic

>>56733141
No. We kill more animals than their are humans every year. There are too many humans to feed the world without factory farmer meat or lab grown meat. And yes, the soils are depleted, and cobalt salts are used. Use google.

>>56733168
I KNOW that we dont use cobald
And no the soils are still not depleted, they are used the same as over 1000 years (green land at least), they did not magically get depleted in the time supplements were discovered.
Its a vegan cope to explain why they get sick
>oh no im sick but im vegan......must be the soil kek
There are not too many humans.....YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT NOW it works, and for example in the eu lots of good soils are forcible made fallow land

>>56733168
>without factory farmer meat
Define factory farm meat
Because AGAIN plant farmers are way bigger and more factory like....
It doesnt matter for the output if one farmer has 1000 or 30 farmers have 33 cows (yes 30 and 33 is far better)

>>56733298
I’m talking about farm soil, not ever square mile of soil on Earth. Factory farming resource intensive and highly concentrated. Monoculture of animal feed depletes soil rapidly. You’re do ignorant. You don’t even know that farmers use cobalt salts. You must think where you live represents all of Earth.

I haven’t been to a doctor or sick in 15 years, btw.

>>56733552
Yes im talking about farm soil aswell,
Aka green land for cows.
Its used the same as for 1000s of years.
And no farmers usually dont use it, no matter how much ID switching you do and claim it.

>>56733552
>Monoculture of animal feed depletes soil rapidly
>Monoculture of factory plant food farms depletes soil rapidly
fixed
Stop projecting your own faults at meat eaters. Typical narcissistic behaviour.

>>56729364
>1pbtid
>entirely off topic
>STILL not deleted
$50 says a transgendered child molesting janny posted this shit thread in an attempt to drum up "user engagement"

>>56733552
>>56733900
If there are soils depleted, its the ones used for plant food monocultures.
You made an argument against planting human plant food.
Because farm animlas dont need monocultures.