/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56716225
Jews

>>56716225
>how does any of it work
Paying off port authority. It’s literally that simple.

>>56716265
>Paying off port authority
In third world shitholes I imagine that works but in Europe? In the UK? It seems like it'd be difficult if not impossible.

>>56716225

they literally just put in into the container and ship it. in most countrys the cops need a warrant to open the container and ports are so streamlined they dont basically just transfer the container from the boat the a train/truck without any human interaction. ports arent going to grind global commerce to a stand still to inspect every single container that comes into the ports.

>>56716323
Is there anything that isn't feds to you?

>>56716330
>they literally just put in into the container and ship it.
What about papers, limited libaility corporations etc? Or do they not do shell corporations n shit? It seems like a captain would know if there's a random container with no owner on the ship, no?

>>56716306
I don’t think you understand just how corrupt port authority or customs are in literally every country. Every documentary I’ve ever seen. Every article I’ve read, the weak point in the (((war on drugs))) is always border control and port authority. They’re corrupt to the fucking core.

>>56716341
They are either slipped into shipments without the sender and/or receiver knowing, and it’s pulled before it reaches the destination. Or the company is in on it, maybe not the company as a whole, but the people/employees that have access to the shipment. Usually the latter.

>>56716346
>I don’t think you understand just how corrupt port authority or customs are
I guess I don't. I assumed corrupt docks were the domain of thirdie shitholes, no?

>>56716225
Kek is this cement-anon?

>>56716370
>Or the company is in on it, maybe not the company as a whole, but the people/employees that have access to the shipment
How would that work though? The company would know that they're organizing shipments of random junk unconnected to the business and they'd get caught?

>>56716375
In the UK most people wouldn't dream of going corrupt but you don't need most people, you only need a few. It only takes a few guys to wave through a couple of dozen containers a month. That's tonnes and tonnes of cocaine.

>>56716391
very rarely when you order things from overseas will companies actual deal with the shipping and logistics. third party logistics and intermodular warehousing/distribution is a massive industry.

>>56716391
They sometimes do get caught. I’d argue most of the time, but it’s impossible to stop everything. Like >>56716330 said, they aren’t going to grind everything to a halt to check every box, in every shipment, on every ship.

>>56716225
They hide the drugs in jars of peanut butter. It hides the scent from the dogs and gives them a convenient cover story, i.e.
>Why officer I am but a simple peanut butter merchant

>>56716341
You really this dumb? I will tell you exactly how it works:
1) Have a drug cart in South American country
2) find an exporter of fruit of trees or anything where you can hide your products in. Give them % of the price you sold your drugs for if they are willen to ship it with their products
3) buyers in Europe literally own some key people that work in the port (for example in Antwerp, they follow port workers home and threaten them with their lives or the lives of their loved ones if they don’t want to work for them)
4) thousands of containers arrive everyday in the port, only some get flagged to check up. Port workers need to mark containers for the buyers
5) have minors and low tier criminals go to the port at night and break open the marked containers get the drugs out and deliver them somewhere
6) you successfully got your drugs in Europe

>>56716225
Bribes or desperate mules

>>56716405
>It only takes a few guys to wave through a couple of dozen containers a month.
You'd need managers for that though presumably and not low level port workers.

>>56716467
Seems the key part here is moreso corruption than any clever accounting or legal work.

>>56716467
Wouldn't it be more efficient to not ship with other items and instead just ship with nothing else in the container?

>>56716568
The thing is that there are many different middlemen and only a few very dangerous families owning the drugscene. They use violence, bribes and blackmailing to get everything done. They key persons never make their hands dirty. If you want to import drugs you will need contacts in South America, contacts in the ports and contacts to actually sell the drugs.
It’s setup like this:
A few big families own the entire cocaine scene in Europe. They buy in bulk from their South American suppliers ( 10s of million of euros at a time) once the drugs arrive in various ports in Europe. They sell it the their network of resellers. That network is also chosen by them and only them can sell it. For example they buy a shipment for 10M euro, they sell it for 20m-30m to their resellers. They have many, big ones and small ones. The resellers sell it to another reseller for 25-40m and they split it up and actually sell it to the end customer for 35-65M .

>>56716577
That’s impossible to pass checks. They hide it in bananas or hollow out trees, or other fruit or stuff. Because you can’t just ship anything you want. A company that ships 1000s of containers with bananas has like 2 or 3 of them with drugs hidden so that leaves them with pretty good odds. 2/1000 that it will be checken against 998/1000 it won’t be checked.

>>56716685
Why not just fill bags with the shit, put on the manifest that it's bags of finely ground sand and then fill the container? Seems like it'd be a more efficient use of space, no?

>>56716225
Considering only an estimated 10% of all shipped narcotics actually get seized it seem a pretty sustainable business model.

>>56716467
Stevedores get paid €100K to look the other way for a single container, apparently. I'd do it.

>>56716685
You'd still have the 2/1000 odds if one container is stacked with cocaine and labelled as something else innocuous

>>56716380
Of course.

>>56716768
Exactly but they don’t care. If 1 or 2 containers with drugs get checked out of 100s that pass it’s peanuts. They always have to hide it between other stuff because police sometimes do random checks with or without dogs… If only you could grasp how much money actually is involved you would understand that it’s impossible to stop it. Antwerp accounts for 40% of all cocaine coming into Europe and they seize for 2-5 billion euros every year and they estimate another 10-15 billion passes without being caught.
Recently there was a huge operation where they infiltrated an encrypted messaging system used by the biggest network of cocaine traffickers. They caught some of the top people in different countries; Dubai, Belgrade, Swiss, Netherlands, Belgium,… one of the biggest was a Dutch Moroccan that since he was busted has killed key witnesses, lawyers and a famous reporter in the Netherlands… all while he is locked away, that’s how powerful and dangerous they are.

>>56716467
Sounds easy, let’s start one?

>>56716225
>HOW DO YOU DO FELLOW DRUG DEALERS? SHALL WE DISCUSS DEALING DRUGS AND DRUG ACCESSORIES?

>>56716380
underrated

>>56716225
i buy this one kind of mexican cheese at the bodega that is white and crumbly, queso fresco or something, and while eating it one day i realized that they probably use large shipments of commodities like food or industrial materials, cleverly disguised, to ship drugs. there's also an episode of the wire where the Greek ships heroin pellets disguised as paint or something. so maybe they do it that way.

>>56716252
close enough

>>56716380
Top kek

>>56716306
the hell's angels run the largest port in Canada.
they're untouchable. the union itself gets to pick the overpaid longshoremen who get to work there, people pass their jobs onto their kids; that's how the system works. bunch of entrenched interests. cops can't touch it, officials are paid off and bribed etc.

all the war on drugs was bs in the 80s, the ports are the weak point, that would have been the most effective way - but nobody wants to shake things up and die for the cause

organized crime is the same everywhere else in the world.

>>56716568
Would YOU want to fuck with the cartels? Or would you rather take a paycheque from them. Anyone who wasn't corrupt is dead.

>>56716225
The jews are complicit in it I'm sure.

>>56716225
Cartel's are very creative.

>>56716225
The DEA and customs are in on it dummy
The former US presidents are the biggest illegal drug dealers in the world. Pablo Escobar used to work for the Bushes

>>5671622
onions mencho wey
do u wan deh monee or de mother cut up in 100 pieces

>>56716225
what percentage of these do you think get force-opened and their contents ripped apart?
searches are most intelligence based, aka, you been doing business with dumb people who talk a lot. Otherwise your chances of getting randomly caught must be miniscule to near non-existent