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Sam Altman is one of us Edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

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>> No.56699173
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I think anon had this move on Sam Altman planned for a long time

>> No.56699176
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56699176

It's time to pivot to small caps. This is financial advice.
This does not constitute financial advice.

>> No.56699180

Q4 earnings are going to be an absolute blood bath.
The consumer is kill.
You cannot (successfully) dispute this.

>> No.56699185

Give me some degenerate option plays for Monday morning to gamble on

>> No.56699204

>>56699176
My parents have a net worth in the multiple millions, they said we're not doing presents this year.

>> No.56699237

>>56697096
>Tiktok also recently banned a bunch of terms recently too. The fuck is going on with tech lately?
Jews, literally. Did you learn nothing from Kanye?

>> No.56699261
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Warren please buy out OXY

>> No.56699263

>>56699237
(((They))) are in full Panic mode.
Surprised TSLA was allowed to rise this week.

>> No.56699266
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this is the my wealth vs the sp500 since 12/31/2018.
On 12/31/2018, my wealth was $321,412 and the SP500 was 2506.
On 11/13/2023, my wealth was $540,761 and the SP500 was 4411.

>> No.56699303

>>56697803
>How the fuck does 4chan consistently meme this shit into reality?
>
>Same with Pedowood. I ignored it at first, but Epstein became a thing soon after. Strange.
Remember pizzagate?
>>>/pol/449057738

Daily reminder that /pol/ has conducted air strikes in Syria with the Russian military.

>> No.56699304

>>56699147
Sisterlessbros, what are we buying? Does it even matter?

>> No.56699311

schizo shot one person...

this is why schizos are always long. if they were ever right they would got easy 15.

>> No.56699342
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>entire market held up against all odds against an absolutely insane AI hype bubble
>the hype bubble suddenly collapses in a massive scandal
Guess what happens next?

>> No.56699350

>>56699311
>long

fuck i meant wrong. fuuuuuuck

>> No.56699362

>>56699342
>hype bubble
that's a funny way to spell "new paradigm"

>> No.56699376
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>>56699342
>mfw the q1 2024 crash is happening now

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>>56699350
>>56699376
>mfw the 2023 buy signal is happening now

>> No.56699402
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>>56699385
>mfw believing in some almanac from 1875

>> No.56699406

>>56699342
I know AI is just a tool but I use it almost every day. I used bitcoin twice and it hardly worked but the hype was much bigger.

>> No.56699408

>>56699147
>Sam Altman is one of us Edition
kek /smg/ reach knows no bounds

>> No.56699410

>>56699406
What the fuck are you using AI for anon?

>> No.56699417

>>56699402
Yes, and the reason is very sound.
Farmers are financiers. They need to have knowledge of weather patterns and hedge accordingly to get the most benefit from their time and effort. Options and derivatives were originally made to guarantee prices for wheat and corn etc, after all.
The benner cycle is based on sunspot patterns. It follows predictable cycles that have more or less solar energy emitted. Not a big difference, but enough to affect the productivity of crops. So if you have more or less output in a commodity group, this does have implications on the open market.
Food prices are tied to inflationary pressures, and can affect exposures to equities, bonds, and exchange rates.

>> No.56699421

>>56699376
>>56699385
My body is ready. Selling my home, just looked at one that will save me $2k a month, and it looks like it will work out. Got 50k for trading. Need to open up an account with ToS again and get used to the platform again, been a while.
>>56699402
>mfw believing in some almanac from 1875
Almanacs are full of wisdom, zoomzoom.

>> No.56699423

>>56699204
they don't love you anon. I'm sorry

>> No.56699434

>>56699421
What sectors are you targeting? I know buy the dip on anything is going to be profitable. I'm going to spread my buys out over 4-8 months once there's a good 10% down on the week

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>>56699402
>MFW I went through the trouble to learn a bunch of TA & FA and it turns out just schizo shit like this is the best way

>> No.56699437

>>56699402
Literally as valid as any other technical analysis bullshit.

>> No.56699438

>>56699410
for example when I read an article and a sentence interests me but it's just a sentence. I just let chatgpt write it more detailed and maybe then get more into detail what interests me about it.

>> No.56699439
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>>56699304
it doesn't matter. we never had a chance of making it anyway

>> No.56699443
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56699443

they say to buy low
and sell when it's high
but after this week
i'm ready to die

>> No.56699451

>>56699435
"Schizo shit" is valid though. Some of it has roots in market cycles and macro over a multi-year period. Seasonality too. It doesn't get more FA than that.
There's also market psychology at work, too.

>> No.56699455

>>56699438
>for example when I read an article and a sentence interests me but it's just a sentence. I just let chatgpt write it more detailed and maybe then get more into detail what interests me about it.
that sounds kinda pointless and autismo anon

>> No.56699487

>>56699434
Everything. You have interest rates that increased 6000% over the course of a couple of years, the dangle from the fed for now student loan repayment (SIKE!) and people that spent to their credit card's limit buying new shit after COVID. Everything merch is going to go down. New car sales down. Used parts shops will go up, alcohol will go up, weed stocks will go up. Gambling will plummet, that's one sector I'm probably loading up on, I road LVS from like 9-30 something last time, and they're a good indicator of where the 'recovery' is at. Go back and look at how 08-09 went down.

Taxes are up, and home price valuations skyrocketed. That's why I'm selling mine (literally taxed myself out of it) and downsizing to something that saves me $2k a month, that's basically $24k more income per year now for me. I can afford to buy more houses, become a slum lord. Simple as. Biggest mistake I ever made was not buying some brand new apartment complexes after 09 that were for sale.
Difference this time from 09 is commercial realestate is going to tank hard, and that's really going to fuck banks.

>> No.56699488

>>56699435
astrology is real

>> No.56699509

So are we all just entering a hyper-delusion where a giant recession isn't about to hit?

>> No.56699537

>>56699455
I'm not copy pasting the sentence from the article that wouldn't work.

>> No.56699536

>>56699509
Home prices for 'affordable' homes in my area are falling faster than the median priced ones, and the nice ones like mine are being bought out by investors assuming the loan and just paying me to basically leave. Might be a management company handling these properties that are going down in price, no idea. I do know the bank that owned my property last year went tits up, they had their bankruptcy hearing earlier this month.

>> No.56699542

>>56699509
I think we are in the twilight zone of Thanksgiving where families get together, the men shoot the shit about their portfolios and the guys that are all high and mighty get btfo’d on Friday and beyond.

>> No.56699553

>>56699509
Two more weeks

>> No.56699555
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>>56699537
Some ideas you know you were looking for when you see it and chatgpt can help you find it

>> No.56699557
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>>56699509
WHAT TIME IS IT? WHAT TIME IS IT? WHAT TIME IS IT?

>> No.56699563

>>56699557
peanut butter jelly time?

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>>56699509
This.. recession. Is it in the room with us right now, bobo?

>> No.56699613
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56699613

FRESH UPDATE
https://youtu.be/bNTUMQaMpPo
https://youtu.be/bNTUMQaMpPo
https://youtu.be/bNTUMQaMpPo

>> No.56699632

>>56699185
you missed todays opportunity but tesla is going to do something. Elon is launching the big rocket tomorrow morning...or not...or it explodes.

>> No.56699639

>>56699487
>alcohol will go up, weed stocks will go up
>gambling down
I see that on the LVS chart, I guess gambling went down because people didn't have any money to "lose" which caused a big revenue hit... and then I assume dudeweed and alcohol went up on account of people distracting themselves from life. I suppose vidya is too tech-adjacent to benefit from that.
How about commodities and energy?

>> No.56699648

Monday will be greenest day of year. American holiday are bullish

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56699657

>>56699613
gay

>> No.56699679

>>56699639
>I suppose vidya is too tech-adjacent to benefit from that.
>How about commodities and energy?
Tech then vs now is very different, not sure how that will be used as an escape. At the time Facebook was a real time sink for people to 'relieve their stress' I guess if you look at it that way, but they were just being datamined the whole time. Facebook is an advertising company like Google at the end of the day. I'd expect hardware to get more expensive (insane to think considering how high they are already). If everyone is fine with their PS5 or whatever they bought during COVID, and don't mind playing that thing for the next few years, I'd expect some slowdowns in generation cycles, hurting sales. Intel is beyond fucked.

Commodities and energy are still going to be cyclical (depending on policy), maybe more dependent on world events as they'll be weighted more into the fear index if that makes sense.

Took my first Uber this week, car is in the shop. Used it for transport, and to pick up some groceries for me. Talked to the drivers, they all had at least one other job. Shit was like a dollar a mile, way too expensive. That model is not sustainable.

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>>56699613
Thank you Mr John D Rockerfellerchan. If poem anon is still being mean let me know. I will fly out to Seattle and spank him for you.

>> No.56699689

>>56699679
Also, at the time, everyone having a cellphone was a relatively new thing, and very few of them were full screen without buttons or a clamshell design at the time.

>> No.56699692

>>56699342
Our soxs calls make us all rich and we buy Las Vegas and legalize the smg meetup. Those of us with more than one sister need to bring all of them so the sisterless of us aren't left out

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>>56699685
Please just kill me

>> No.56699736

>>56699261
no. stupid idea.
they're sending that dividend back up to 7% as soon as possible.

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>>56699613

>> No.56699758

>>56699679
>Taxis aren't a sista business model
Retard alert

>> No.56699761
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56699761

Is this the place to discuss daytrading? Or do you guys not do that here

>> No.56699778

>>56699761
the retards that do that don't last long

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>>56699761
Sorry fren, we trade one thing and one thing only here.
BOIL
O
I
L
.

>> No.56699790

>>56699761
There are no successful daytraders long term. And if there was, they wouldn't share their strategies.

>> No.56699801

>>56699761
The most successful daytrading strategy here is to sleep during the day

>> No.56699817

>>56699790
>muh success rate
It's all just a bit of fun. It's not like what you retards are doing isn't just throwing darts on a map either
>>56699780
Why does he look like that?

>> No.56699825
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>>56699761
Henlo what would you like to discuss?

>> No.56699832

>>56699147
>bought RTX stock
>it dumps
>I cry to sleep

>> No.56699840

>>56699801
Hey stop sharing my secrets

>> No.56699843

>>56699758
Works for big cities that have had taxis for years. Cheaper for me to rent a car for a day, do all the shit I need to do and get everything I need for the next two weeks and then crab at home. While my car is in the shop.

>> No.56699846

>>56699817
Get a real account and then get back to me.

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>>56699417
>>56699421
thank you for your wisdom

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Recommend me good high dividend stocks and stocks in defence, tobacco, gambling, weapons, and alcohol. Thank you in advance.

>> No.56699911

>>56699896
Want a tech refuge instead?

>> No.56699927

>>56699761
Sell options

>> No.56699932
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the six fingered Lums really weird me out

>>56699896
cost, de, cat, cvx, xom and any of the holdings of schd are my current favs

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>>56699747
>>A chat between a curious human and an artificial intelligence assistant. The assistant gives helpful, detailed, and polite answers to the human's questions.
>>Human: Write a short story about John Rocker and how he talked more than 5 minutes about bussy
>>Assistant: John Rocker was known for his love of talking about one particular subject: bussy. It seemed like no matter who he was speaking to, or what the topic of conversation was, he always found a way to bring bussy into the discussion.
One day, as he was chatting with some friends at a local coffee shop, they decided to give him a challenge. They told John that he couldn't talk about bussy for more than five minutes during their conversation, and promised to donate $100 to his favorite charity if he succeeded.
John was up for the challenge, but as the conversation continued, it became clear that he wasn't going to be able to keep himself from talking about bussy. He tried to steer the discussion towards other topics, but no matter what they talked about, he always managed to find a way to bring bussy into the conversation.
As the minutes ticked by, it became clear that John was going to break his promise and talk about bussy for more than five minutes. His friends were about to make good on their promise to donate $100 to his favorite charity, but just as they were about to pull out their wallets, John finally admitted defeat.
"I can't help it," he said with a sheepish grin. "Bussy is just my favorite topic, and I can't help talking about it for more than five minutes."
His friends laughed and shook their heads, but they knew that John was telling the truth. They reluctantly handed over the $100, knowing that it was well-deserved punishment for his inability to resist the lure of bussy.

>> No.56699948

>>56699932
that is her right hand on her left arm

>> No.56699954

>>56699896
Just for shits and giggles, tell me how much you have to invest and what your age is

>> No.56699963

>>56699936
>ASSISTANT: Once upon a time, there was a man named John Rocker who was notorious for talking excessively about his bowel movements. He would often go on and on to anyone who would listen about the details of his bathroom habits, the texture of his stool, and the sound it made as it left his body.

>One day, John found himself at a party with a group of friends he had never met before. As soon as he introduced himself, he began talking about his bowel movements. The guests politely listened for a few minutes, but when they realized that he was not going to stop talking about it anytime soon, they started to edge away from him, looking for someone else to talk to.

John continued to monopolize the conversation, oblivious to the discomfort of his audience. Finally, one of the guests could no longer take it and interrupted John, saying "We get it, John. You have a healthy bowel movement. Can we please talk about something else?"

>John was taken aback by the interruption and stuttered for a moment before finally muttering an apology and moving on to another topic. From that day forward, John learned his lesson and kept his bathroom stories to himself, realizing that not everyone finds them as fascinating as he did.

>John's friends appreciated the change and welcomed him back into their social circle, but they made it clear that they would prefer to hear about other topics in the future. John nodded in agreement, grateful for the chance to continue to be a part of their group. And so, John learned to talk about his bowel movements in moderation, and everyone lived happily ever after.

>> No.56699986

>>56699143
>what if I want to occasional invest and withdraw money? Is fidelity good for that?
in my opinion, yes Fidelity is good for that, and reputable
>>>56699189
>Robinhood
Robinhood is basically for people who can't get approved for options on a real broker. I view it as basically a broker for gamblers / beginners and its not as reputable as Fidelity, E-trade, IKBR, Schwab, Vanguard etc. Nor does Robinhood have as much offerings

just stick with higher-level, reputable brokers and it doesnt really matter which one you go with. dont go with Robinhood because that is some noob shit

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>>56699948
yeah that too

>> No.56699994

>>56699936
All of these 'language model' AI shit are garbage.
All of the 'art' AI shit are garbage.
AI is bullshit outside of Watson, and even that isn't very useful. It uses pattern recognition and math to pre-predict where something is going, so it seems super fast and accurate.

>> No.56699997

just end this day already

>> No.56699998

>>56699936
>>56699963
friends... social circle... ugh I like the woke version better.

>> No.56700004

>>56699994
Has anyone even shown an actual gain from AI? I just see scams.

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nigger market general

>> No.56700029

>>56699994
I agree. When llama first leaked I downloaded all the models, llama.cpp, the whole bit, played with it all for about two weeks stalking the /g/ local models general, and all that. Then suddenly I quit with the whole thing. It's just soulless drivel coming out of it. It has promise but the current version is just markov chain garbage

>> No.56700050

>>56699994
Yea but it's going to revolutionize the world because it just is ok boomer

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>futures

>> No.56700069

>>56699932
>cost, de, cat, cvx, xom & schd
But those aren't the future? Are they?
>>56699954
I'm a noob with alittle cash and access the to the market.
>>56699911
Wut?

>> No.56700073

>>56699896
>>56699954
>>56700069
Oh, just grab a broad market etf when the market crashes then, you wouldn't really know how to manage beta/volatility exposure for an ideal portfolio

>> No.56700075

>>56700004
>>56700029
i work as a data scientist and a lot of my work over the past 2 years has been fine tuning llms for various tasks. I agree that ai for creative ventures like art or conversation is a scam but they do well on tasks like summarization, intent classification, question answering, and a limited amount of coding at the moment.

>> No.56700087

>>56700075
>i work as a data scientist and a lot of my work over the past 2 years has been fine tuning llms for various tasks
based
>I agree that ai for creative ventures like art or conversation is a scam
How many years are we away from this shit not sucking for these purposes? I want to replace all human interaction with a chatbot

>> No.56700092

>>56700073
I don't think you understand. I am aids to the brain in the blackest part of africa sick in the head. I want full blown volatility like crypto and high dividend stock for savings.

>> No.56700091

>>56699896
Evolution gaming.

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>>56700075
What I really want to know is if they can and will take over for phone customer service jeets.

>> No.56700112

>>56700087
>I want to replace all human interaction with a chatbot
That's been a thing for 30+ years.

>> No.56700113

I was too busy today to post my SAVE position, but I'm glad it's working out for some of you.
Obviously still much more upside ahead, should the trial continue to go well.

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>>56699761
Robanon is the only frequent options trader I'm aware of who's still standing and he has an actual strategy not retarded all-in plays. All others fail quickly or don't post here.

>> No.56700133

>>56700112
No but for real though. Not just the latest iteration of if..then Eliza-bot trash

>> No.56700138

I need to buy some more VTI for my roth, what a good entry point?

>> No.56700157

>>56700091
Yes, but don't they make sleep inducing slots machines and hire shitty ass eastern euro casino dealer? IBID Group seems a better choice imo, but idk.

>> No.56700165

>>56700087
i'd say about 5 years until it'd indistinguishable from a human. As compute power and the max token limit for llms increases their viability as free form chatbots will too
>>56700105
this is already happening, we replaced a whole call center of pajeets with an a100 that's in a closet somewhere. text to speech models are also easier to understand now than indians so we have better customer retention on tech support calls too

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>>56699147
>us
stop fucking your sister. it is wrong.

>> No.56700182

>>56700133
The general public will not have anything close to what you want in your lifetime. At best you'll have a server at a local ISP with canned and opaque responses while they querey further into the core.

'AI' today is a literal meme using social engineering techniques that silicon valley has already programmed you for. When you ask AI a question, it does the ... bounce so it looks like it's talking in a chat reply, as if you are talking to a real person. This creates an emotional bond on a level as if you're talking to a real person, and so you trust it more. This is the scam. It's simple to manipulate this with the box I mentioned (similar to what netflix deploys into ISPs).

With the AI, it will respond faster to questions, and have a local cache of popular answers, and while it asks you mundane shit lickity split (like talking to you in person), the rest of your question is still being analyzed upstream for a complete answer.

It's a scam.

>> No.56700186

>>56700170
How could something wrong feel so right? Don't you want to give cummies to the women you love?

>> No.56700202
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>>56700186
family love and romantic love are not the same thing. find someone else for a romantic partner.

>> No.56700211

>>56700165
>max token limit for llms increases their viability as free form chatbots will too
Yeah this is the thing that killed my enthusiasm for llama and alternatively has me most excited about the future. I want a token limit so big it loads every conversation we ever previously had in the prompt every time. I'm dreaming I know but that would be huge. Make it happen for your /smg/ bros data scientist anon

>> No.56700220

>>56700182
>bounce so it looks like it's talking in a chat reply
llms aren't instantaneous, your options are to either stream the tokens like chatgpt does or put something as a filler while it runs
>AI, it will respond faster to questions, and have a local cache of popular answers
what is it exactly that you think ai is? llms aren't just returning a similarity search

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>>56700202
>find someone else for a romantic partner
ngmi

>> No.56700227

>>56700075
Just feed in individual stock tickers, surely you can detrend the data and find alpha

>> No.56700234

>>56700165
>this is already happening, we replaced a whole call center of pajeets with an a100 that's in a closet somewhere. text to speech models are also easier to understand now than indians so we have better customer retention on tech support calls too
I agree, and they're also being auto blocked from making calls. All it is is feeding the chatbot the script, it's not AI, it's just basic chat bot bullshit.

>> No.56700235

>>56700202
Don't worry my sister's pregnant, I'll have a daughter soon

>> No.56700258

>>56700220
>what is it exactly that you think ai is
I guess kinda like what Shirow was talking about when he wrote Ghost in the Shell. Broken replecants basically, useless eaters that can be programed to read a script, their life on lease (interest rates rising) and only really good for refining something that needs some good guessing to finally getgud.

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>>56700165
Fuck yes. I, for one, welcome our new T2S overlords.

>> No.56700292

>>56700258
>I guess kinda like what Shirow was talking about when he wrote Ghost in the Shell. Broken replecants basically, useless eaters that can be programed to read a script, their life on lease (interest rates rising) and only really good for refining something that needs some good guessing to finally getgud.
ATT has fired a lot of their best people of over 30 years with life long relationships with their long time clients this year in the USA and farmed those jobs out to India to people that are new to the process and have no stake in either company their working for or servicing, history with them, etc. Same analogy. It's already happened. IBM also spun off a ton of real estate and bullshit on their books with their Kyndryl deal they just finished up. I'd be looking at commercial realestate contracts, Intel contracts, and Cisco contracts. The market is moving.

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>>56699342
Dot Com Bubble on steroids? At least there were a shitload more stocks supporting the markets around 1990's-early 2000's.

This time there are only 7 fucking companys propping everything up. Just watch Atlas shrugging even a little bit...

>> No.56700315

>>56700227
i've tried loads of different methods for using neural networks for trading, some worked, but in the end i decided it was too much upkeep and maintenance. I'd rather just buy SSO and spend time with my family instead
>>56700234
>it's not AI, it's just basic chat bot bullshit
if a neural network that can take a user's speech as input and produce speech as an output isn't ai idk what to tell you
>>56700258
>Ghost in the Shell
basing your ideas of ai off science fiction is going to leave you disappointed. The post practical use case for ai is in cost saving. There's very little difference between ai and excel in this regard, both allow the user to perform super human levels of task automation

>> No.56700323

>>56700315
What worked? What metrics did you use?

>> No.56700337

>>56700315
>if a neural network that can take a user's speech as input and produce speech as an output isn't ai idk what to tell you
It's not a neural network.
This software was sold in Office Depot 20 years ago, it's not new.
>>56700315
>There's very little difference between ai and excel in this regard, both allow the user to perform super human levels of task automation
That's the crux. See and read.
>>56700258
>>56700292
I'm talking about the same scenario.
'AI' is basically the meme of shipping jobs overseas. It doesn't WORK, it fucks the whole process up, and what was originally seen as an investment and good pivot opportunity in the face of higher rates, ends up fucking you in the ass at the end of the day because you didn't realize VALUE.
I'm a bear, watching tech corporation's global realestate cover, and telling you what I'm seeing.

>> No.56700341

>>56700315
A scripted chatbot is not AI. What is your IQ?

>> No.56700354

>>56700341
That's the problem, tech is all marketing and magic tricks. The fact fagman is jumping off the diving board into an empty pool and nobody sees it (or won't talk about it, because WHALES) really niggled my nuggets.

>> No.56700363

COVID was a Bull trap. Change my mind.

>> No.56700373

>>56700323
i used an encoder only transformer that i trained with PPO using RLlib. Model fit on a 24gb 3090 and could outperform buying and holding an arbitrary stock by ~20%. Input was time series of OHLC, and various moving averages and standard deviations over time, basically a giant statistical arbitrage calculator. It would do hundreds of trades a year and was a tax nightmare so i killed it
>>56700337
>I'm a bear
you don't have to believe me but american companies are seeing billions of dollars in cost savings in current year from implementing ai. the only ai bubble that exists is the general public's misconception of what it is ai is supposed to be
>>56700341
>scripted chatbot
>llm
lmao

>> No.56700374

>>56700363
bbc

>> No.56700380

>>56700373
Yes, an llm is ai

>> No.56700392

>>56699173
Sam Altman is black?

>> No.56700393

>>56700373
>various moving averages and standard deviations over time
That seems pretty basic, but then its just a numbers game.
Did you accout for seasonality or correlation or beta or time offsets at all, or would it factor it in automatically?

>> No.56700402

>>56699385
Yea but if you're a bobo it's inversed

>> No.56700426

>>56700380
>llm is ai
oh maybe we're in agreement then, i've been talking about llms this whole time. The industry has moved past scripted chatbots
>>56700393
i would give it the day of the week and day of year as sin/cos encoded values.
For the most part when performing reinforcment learning it's best to not force the model into one way of thinking by giving it too specific of features.
It's best to give them more general ideas (liks means and sds) and let them figure out the relationships themselves.
research the training of alphago and chess engines if you want more context for this methodology

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>>56699303
He has got like the pedo jew version of Chad face

>> No.56700443
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I have pulled out of the market

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I don't even need to make fun of bobos, the Shit and Piss 500 is at 4500 during bobos big market crash.

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>crashes the entire stock market just like his sister's hymen
heh, nothin personnel goyim

>> No.56700464

>>56700456
2 more weeks

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>>56700202
Yeah that's what retards like you since the globohomo took over believe but sister fucking has been cool for centuries before this gay sheit which you speak of so fuck of white knight of the cucked order.

>> No.56700471

>>56700461
Market went up today bobo

>> No.56700472

>>56700426
>alphago and chess
Well thanks for the breadcrumbs. I'll put it on my todo list

>> No.56700476

>>56700471
Shhhhhh! Bobo posters have gone crazy and are living in their own delusional world. Just let them indulge in their schizophrenic retardation. There is no talking sense to them anymore.

>> No.56700478

did anybody else feel that the timeline had changed? I woke up and immediately felt something was different

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>>56700478
DO NOT INTERPRET THE DOT

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>>56700478
No maybe you should seek help or take your pills.

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>>56700471
>>56700476
>announced after close

>> No.56700502

>>56700492
You're a fucking retard bobo, you know that?

>> No.56700509

>>56700478
>>56700485
In what way? Are we observers tied to an entity, or can we manofest things ourselves?

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>>56700502
>You're a fucking retard bobo, you know that?

>> No.56700518

>>56700478
we've entered the tesla agartha epoch

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>>56699994
this heretic will not prosper.

>> No.56700526

>>56700509
>or
>early life
>>56700520
>image for ants for autists escaping reality

>> No.56700529

>>56700515
>posts more proof how Biden is one the best presidents in our lifetime
BDS is real and Bobos have it so bad.

>> No.56700539

>>56699994
Anon, you fail to realize just how shit AI was just 2-3 years ago. The first computers were also slow and were the size of a piano. You need to think 20-30 years from now

>> No.56700550

>>56700529
Poland is next. :^)

>> No.56700558

>>56700539
/smg/ has some seriously tech illiterate retarded smiggers that post. You are wasting your time arguing with their boomer krugman tier logic. Just screencap their posts for future laughs.

>> No.56700561

>>56700539
>Anon, you fail to realize just how shit AI was just 2-3 years ago.
It hasn't changed. IBM has the only AI worth a shit.

>> No.56700566

>>56700529
He is literally senile

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>>56700566
This is coming from the same retards who tried staging an insertuction and failed to overthrow an elected president. I mean according to your own retarded argument a senile old man managed to beat your Cheetoh Hitler. Hahahaha!

>> No.56700595

>>56700584
If this isn't bearish I don't know what is.

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>>56700595
Yeah go back to sleep Bobo

>> No.56700603

>>56700584
>Cheetoh Hitler
God I wish

>> No.56700613

>>56700600
In what reality is a retard or a senile leading the world a bullish indicator?

>> No.56700614

semitic market general

>> No.56700626

>>56700613
He is still fixing all the damage done by the orange retard so yeah Joe Biden is doing a better job.

>> No.56700628

>>56700558
AI is only interesting right now because it could potentially fill jobs. Calling it AI is a travesty, anyone with a science degree will tell you it isn't true AI but actually machine learning, useful for data mining and information extraction (spying) just as the soviet master mathematicians originally intended.

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>>56700584
>literally needing an earpiece at all times for directions
>accidentally called Jinping a dictator while he was still in the country
Anon, I...

>> No.56700642

>>56700626
>He is still fixing all the damage done by the orange retard so yeah Joe Biden is doing a better job.
Biden doesn't even know what decade he's in (which is a prop, he's acting, so he can plead innocent like the other OG mob bosses that acted retarded forever, typical DELMARVA scum).

Dude is a scammer like the rest of the career politicians.

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>>56700628
That's only one fucking facet of it you retard. We evolved further than any other animal because we have a more developed pattern seeking brain and now we are creating a pattern seeking tool on steroids. We are going to figure out and notice things a lot more in the future about everything. The real geniuses are the nooticers using it to figure out ancient languages, health sciences, and our environment in general. When the Bible said the meek shall it inherit the earth and the watchers shall guide it, it was a translation error for the new meme word nooticer

>> No.56700656

the president literally doesn't do anything at all

>> No.56700661

>>56700650
Nootice my balls lmao

>> No.56700666

>>56700656
This is true in the way that the current president is just the face of it's administration. There has been a difference under the Trump and Biden administration though

>> No.56700686

>>56700661
I'm nooticing this post tells me you're gay

>> No.56700695

>>56700656
but it's always their fault.

>> No.56700718

>>56700650
Based, but my point is it has its limits and it's not a tool that will solve everything mr basedience investor.

>> No.56700719

>>56700686
Why don't you nootice these digits

>> No.56700731

>>56700719
This is bearish

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>>56700719
>>56700731
Extremely bearish. I guess I'm opening puts now.

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>>56700731
>>56700733
I told you guys to short. Maybe you will listen now.

>> No.56700745

>>56700733
>dubs
Not sure how to interpret...

>> No.56700755

>>56699147
Yosuga no sora is incest for boomers, cool zoomer kids know Andy and Leyley is the new hotness.

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>>56700745
Markets dumping now and Joe Biden turned out to be a shitty president after all.

>> No.56700761

>>56700650
regex tools are great at finding patterns. but they need operators and some knowledge and creativity
let me know when a machine can do shit like that without fucking up at some point, and if it does, it can learn without external help

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>>56700742
>>56700757
Putting in my shorts now. Thanks anons

>> No.56700793

Oil is FUCKED by the way.

>>56699780
Natural gas is also fucked.

>> No.56700826

>>56700793
Don't forget to short the OPEC meeting Sunday when the Saudis once again get cucked by the rest of OPEC not wanting to cut

>> No.56700836

>>56700826
Sunday after next, not this sunday

>> No.56700845

are covered calls free money?

>> No.56700850

>>56700845
yes

>> No.56700853

>>56700845
covered puts are better

>> No.56700867

>>56700845
Absolutely not

>> No.56700873

>>56700845
you never respect how fast a stock can really move until you try writing options

>> No.56700878

>>56700867
Y not

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I hope everyone is buying puts

>> No.56700910

>>56700878
Reduced risk = reduced return>>56700878

>> No.56700922

Holy fuck is it the weekend already? I didn't even notice this week

>> No.56700935

lol, msn will only tell me the number of likes an article has and not the number of dislikes

>> No.56700936

>>56700922
are you benzo dependant?

>> No.56700940

>>56700935
South Korea will only let you long stocks, and not short them

>> No.56700943

>>56700936
No, I'm not on any medication, unless you count melatonin

>> No.56700950

yeah idk bulltardbros i dont think SPY is gonna close the year above 400

>> No.56700963

>>56700940
I don't believe that gets in the way of price discovery really.

>> No.56700970

>>56700845
I wrote an extremely OTM covered call for 6 dollars right before this retard pump
It's now negative 500 dollars

>> No.56700987

>>56700873
Yeah I feel bad for anyone who was writing SOXL calls lately

>> No.56701036

>>56700970
Ticker and entry date?

>> No.56701059

>>56701036
Oh and the strike and expiry

>> No.56701552

>>56699994

humans act the same way desu, most people just reflect their experience and express it out when given tasks or asked about something.

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Yields...

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>futures

>> No.56701641

>>56699173
who among you would not technologically abuse this semen demon?

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>>56699147
>>56699173
So what are the odds Sam Altman was the actual sister fucker poster on /smg/ and was using this as a testing ground to see what the publics reaction would be since he knew of his inevitable outting? For the past fucking month /smg/ has not shut up about sister fucking which is totally out of place and this didn't come out of nowhere. I know it sounds schizo but my gut feeling is that this might unironically be the case...

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uh bros, china looks fucked

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>>56699443
It's so over...

>> No.56701797

>>56701707
there's also that game that's been popular lately and incest is a common topic in anime (anime website) so there's a number of cultural factors at play here to kick off a meme
he's totally here though, which is based.

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>>56699613

>> No.56701845

I'm so tired bros. Number crunching, optimizing use to be so fun. But now it's losing its spark.

>> No.56701926

>>56701707
Almost 100%

>> No.56701952

>>56701845
Approaching 30 are we?

>> No.56701968

That fact that all the bayhorse naysayers being proved wrong is the most bittersweet memetic occurance to ever happen on this board

>> No.56702029

>>56701968
Isn't silver a shit metal?

>> No.56702031

>Apple closed with -%0,01
It's so over it
Bobo times

>> No.56702059

>>56702029
Silver is pretty shit in and of itself, there’s loads of the stuff in the ground and it’s usually not cost effective to mine it solely. But bayhorse has a mine 30 miles away from another company that just found a huge copper/silver deposit and their share price is mooning right now, the geography is the same and everyone is speculating that bayhorse will have deeper deposits similar

>> No.56702069

>>56702031
I was already short. They've very clearly jumped the shark.

>> No.56702082

>>56701952
Already 30.

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This OpenAI shit really is going to metastasize into the black swan that kills tech lmfao.

>> No.56702119

>>56701564
SHE'S STANDIN UP

>> No.56702171

>>56701845
Less emotion and excitement the better. Ygmi
Try trading a new asset class

>> No.56702190

>>56701968
Ive lost over $800 on them over the years. Theyd have to triple for me to break even if I bought now. No thanks
>can still do ZIM, AQB, SIGA, PLTR and SOXL

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what are some solid french stocks?

>> No.56702230

>>56702210
TTE

>> No.56702283

>>56702171
That's the thing, I don't know if I want to trade a new asset class. Stock + option combo has been what I've been doing since 2016. Maybe there's more out there but I don't have the interest to learn the intricacies of a new asset class. Honestly if I want to learn about something new, it'd be about entrepreneurship and starting your own business. I'm insanely jealous of people that have the drive to create and sell something. Hell even the guys who sell like furry art on Twitter, I wish I could translate the ability to have an audience into a small business/side gig. The side gig thing seems really interesting but I have no idea where to start and the information space is filled with scam artists.

>> No.56702319

>>56702283
Do you work? Most traders have several streams of income, just for peace of mind
I sell MTG cards on ebay. Maybe $80/mo. Its not much but it gives me something to do sometimes. Was looking into photo restoration, and possibly getting a financial advisor license just to have & credibly educate people for a fee. Could get a notary license too, charge $100 a pop for signatures
Lots of stuff you can do

>> No.56702330

>>56702283
>>56702319
Also furry art might be hard. Youre dealing with a lot of negativity and jealousy and cliques. Youre either pro AI or not. Youre either drawing for love or money. Youre either charging $10 for a picture or youre a paywalling scammer. To say nothing about Patreon, adopts, YCHs, or how zoomer twitter culture will try to dig up the nigger word post you made 10 years ago to try to cancel you even though they dont care.
Not a great place to participate it, unless you treat it as a job

>> No.56702346

>>56702319
I'm in the process of applying for a job right now. I just wouldn't mind some other business related activity. Stocks/options use to do that for me, but I mostly have plateaued with them.

>>56702330
Furry art was just a tongue in cheek joke. It's more the general concept of creating stuff for the internet (and if you get a little cash even neater) which seems really neat to me. But the only skill I really have that is digitizable would be programming. And I'm not sure what that would look like. Like comic artists post stuff on reddit or even /co/. Do I just build my little side project apps and post them on reddit? I don't know.

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>>56701707
Nah, it's just the same fool that's been spamming weird obscenities on here for years. Remember picrel? That was him. What's strange is that now the fool has become a prophet. Yet such things have been known to happen. In his madness he has become a mouthpiece of the spirits.

>> No.56702375

>>56699994
GPT4 via API is significantly more effective than any form of ChatGPT faggotry. Build a bot for your own exclusive use, keep it PRIVATE and resist the urge to share/brag about what you manage from it, and with a little clever prompting you may find yourself amazed at what it can actually produce.

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>>56701552
This

>> No.56702392

Sam Altman seems like a scam artist desu

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Do you think Sam Altman is a subscriber to her OnlyFans?

>> No.56702400

>>56700105
They already are replacing jeets, we've managed to downsize our entire CS department to 2 girls including management. Purely via SMS & email contacts tho, I don't think we'll see systems capable of full scale on the fly interactions via voice for a while, at least not the kind anyone would be willing to risk a poor customer buying experience with.

>> No.56702410

>>56700211
In a retail setting this isn't too far out of the question, assuming you could somehow configure it to draw from distinctly separate logs per customer/client. Seems like it'd be exceedingly easy tbqh

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funny how only the top 7 stocks are keeping us from recession

>> No.56702488
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>>56699342
>hype bubble suddenly collapses in a massive scandal
No one thinks AI is collapsing here. If anything MSFT just got rid of the guy who helped get it rolling to clear a path forward for themselves.

>> No.56702495

nothing ever happens

>> No.56702498

>>56702488
Microsoft just wants more regulation

>> No.56702506

>>56702488
>>56702498
Is Microsoft going to buy SNAP ?

And for how much ?

>> No.56702515

>>56702506
they just bought activision blizzard so probably not.

>> No.56702527

>>56700633
>accidentally called Jinping a dictator while he was still in the country
When biden forgets the politically directions hes actually accidently based.
>>56702498
>>56702506
MSFT doesnt care about regulation or whatever does or doesnt happen. They have the only significant product out there now and are already charging people for it. they will keep at the edge and rake in the money.

>> No.56702534

>>56702527
>MSFT doesnt care about regulation or whatever
They 100% do
>They have the only significant product out there
Thats not the point Microsoft wants to regulate AI so they can have a better stranglehold of how its used on the internet and such

>> No.56702540

>>56702488
AI? No.
OpenAI hype? Very well maybe.

>> No.56702541

How do I learn this shit? I don't even know basic shit like what broker to use. Whenever I google it's always just people trying to sell me shovels. No wonder most people lose money.

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>>56702541
>This shit?
What exactly?
Stock valuation? Read Benjamin Graham
Options? Pic related is pretty good.
Bonds? Fuck idk

As for brokerages I like Etrade but they're all pretty much the same. I'd avoid Robinhood.

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>>56699147
>be propped up frontjew Samuel Jewman >"suddenly" leaving company on friday after markets close
>wasnt even founder of openai, just another VC jew
>runs shady foundation jewry with obscure ownership structure, absolutely run for profit
>projected $80B valuation at next funding round

this is the top, this is what it takes to pop the ai bubble
its just weird that they pull the rug now and dont wait until after the next funding round

>>56702488
big red MSFT dildo on monday, screencap me nigga

>>56702541
leave it to the big boys and go play some fortnight little zoomy

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56702595

Yo wtf, even past Mac Pros look like Cheesegraters. Wtf is that?

>> No.56702601

>>56702595
I hate the weekend.

>> No.56702606

>>56702595
Hot load of garbage. New Apple silica about to blow up.

>> No.56702611

>>56702541
if you're normie and don't want to learn just buy

60% VTI
20% VGIT
10% REET
10% IAUM

>> No.56702637

>>56702484
stock prices don't keep you out of a recession you fucking idiot.
>>56702488
wrong. AI is hot garbage. it always has been. it's nothing but a mishmash of glorified search algorithms. this is 100% about self-entitled third-way silicon valley retards selling VCs the latest bullshit fad in order to take their money.

>> No.56702651

>>56702560
I lack the fundamentals to properly understand those books. I have a statistics textbook lying around so I'll start with that.

>>56702611
I've heard that ETF == good, but I want to know why.

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So the JBlu-Save trial enters the 4th week next monday. Short week due to holiday. As stated previously the govt's case is weak. A settlement is the likely outcome. Govt would save face and not have egg smacked on it if the trial went to a verdict. 29.80 - 31 a share is what you'd get once the judge rules in favor or a settlement. Also you may not have to even wait till closing to get your money. SAVE stock will fly to the sky once this trial is over with.https://seekingalpha.com/article/4651999-spirit-jetblue-merger-is-still-on

>> No.56702688

CALLS ON TESLA ROCKET IS GO

>> No.56702689

>>56702669
its a bull trap

>> No.56702721

>>56702669
>the govt's case is weak
Governments always win, especially euro countries.

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>>56702637
>wrong. AI is hot garbage.
>a microsoft copilot that can read 100 emails and give you a paragraph summary of them all to focus on whats relevant doesnt have enterprise value
You are one of those midwits that likes to call a new thing hype and uneeded to make it seem like you are smart for not following the trend. but you are an idiot. this AI stuff is extremely valuable to these companies and is already a working product.

>> No.56702778

>>56702637
>this is 100% about self-entitled third-way silicon valley retards selling VCs the latest bullshit fad in order to take their money
I agree but can't you see how normies find it to be iPhone level paradigm shifting? Imagine a self-tying shoe. You and I don't give a shit because we're not retarded and will tie our own shoes but the masses will not be able to live without it within 5 years. After 20 it's baked in to the consumer class consciousness

>> No.56702818

>>56702688
So it flew but then auto exploded. Plus the booster blew up. Not sure what that will do to my calls. Will they fly then blow up?

>> No.56702833
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56702833

Anyone else into covered call ETFs like TSLY, KLIP, FEPI, QQQY?

>> No.56702866

>>56702669
Be funny if those people from wsb came and kicked this to the sky as they did AMC and GME.

>> No.56702869

>>56702651
>ve heard that ETF == good, but I want to know why.
To make money you need to pick a stock that will go up. This is difficult because the market is the closest thing we can get to the Choas dimension from warhammer in this world where nothing will ever make sense. It will genuinely feel reality itself is purposely trying to fuck with you whenever you make any decision.

To make matters worse this is a zero sum game which means you're competing against everyone else. Every hedgefund company and PhD having autist and AI who all have more experience than you, are all smarter than you, all have more time than you, and all have more money to play with than you.

Eventually you get your ass bear enough you say "fuck it" and decide to just give your money to these assholes who kept kicking your ass. Nothing stops you from giving your money to warren buffet or any other hedgefund who previously was stomping your face in.

But then you learn the dirty little secret that they also don't beat the market either. Sure they can look good for a few years, maybe a decade, but eventually this chaos realm of retardation will bend everyone over the metaphorical table and go to town.

Too bad there wasn't a way to buy the realm itself. To truly own the house and make sure you always win. Oh wait, passive index etfs.

If you just buy the entire market (VTI/VXUS or VT) then not only do you own everything, but whatever the realm does your stocks follow.

Think of it another way: a market portfolio of passive index funds is the combination of every single stock picking investor and hedgefund combined together. Warrent Buffet decides that one random fucking Japanese company you didnt even know exists was a good investment? Gratz he just pumped your portfolio. In football terms imagine if you were able to create a team of artificial players that had the average properties of every single NFL team, with the better players having more influence.

>> No.56702886

>>56702833
i had QYLD for a while but you only lose money imo

>> No.56702890

>>56702869
>>56702651
1) pick a brokerage with no trading fees. I like fidelity but Schwab and Vanguard work as well.
2) Open an individual brockerage account
3) transfer in some money
4) "trade" and select your ETF by typing in the ticker name. Here's a tip: any passive index that follows an index will perform identically because they are following the same thing. It doesnt matter if you buy a "total market index" from fidelity or ishares or Schwab. They will all do the same.
>https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/ETFs_for_Bogleheads
5) once you get the etf you just get to stare at it as it acts like an autistic cracked out puppy dog going up and down bur eventually will go up. And the dividends from all those stocks on the etf will pay into your account as cash

>> No.56702897

>>56702541
>trying to sell me shovels
you don't need a shovel just a rope.

>> No.56702899

>>56702651
Do you understand what an ETF is, or why you would want diversified holdings?

>> No.56702930

>>56702541
Sign up for a E-Trade account. Easy as pie. Then once your money transfers over (3 days to settle due to new account) simply buy SWPPX (or other fund). Next day once your shares have settled for ultra laziness setup auto investing. From that point on whatever amount you tell it will buy x amount of SWPPX on the day you select. You don't have to look at it or login ever again except once a year during tax time to get your documents.

>> No.56703003

>>56699896
yeah I kinda went the same way at one point thinking those stocks were attractive because normies and ESG fags don't invest in ''sin stocks'' even though the financials of the companies look good. I put 27K in BATS and it pays a nice dividend without withholding tax because the UK doesn't have that (I'm european so I have to pay a 15% US tax on US dividends and then 30% domestic tax).
Anyways now I'm down like 3K and I keep hearing more and more news about gay lawmakers wanting to ban all nicotine products and shit despite everyone already using those illegal Chinese vape sticks.
I also wanted tobacco stocks because they were investing in dude weed bro but that's still pretty small I think. My advice is don't trouble yourself with tobacco.

>> No.56703008

>>56699304
I am
Buying uvxy everyday until we crash… so probably February

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>>56701707
More likely that he hired some PR firm to seed the idea of sisterfucking in the public consciousness. The man is wealthy, he would never post here with his own two hands, he pays people to do that sort of thing.
Financially speaking, if you don't have a sister you aren't gonna make it.

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>>56699932
Is She a nephilim ?

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>>56700054

>> No.56703098

>>56699896
You can't have a "good high dividend stock" that is a C corp. If they're paying out 100% of normalized income, they're EOL and you have to buy <10x

>> No.56703127

>>56702059
>This silver miner is mooning because someone 30 miles away in an area known for having silver deposits had a good sample
You could be working on infrastructure so you don't have open sewers running around your neighborhood in India. Instead you post about a scam silver mine on an anime incest forum for 50 cents an hour

>> No.56703152

>>56701761
That's old news my friend.
Everyone should have divested when I said to on this board back in 2019

>> No.56703153
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>>56702637
>stock prices don't keep you out of a recession you fucking idiot
Let's see your nobel, asshole

>> No.56703172

>>56703153
That is a nobel asshole if I do say so.

>> No.56703186

>>56702771
It's a "working product" that doesn't really move the bottom line. That's why virtually all of the gains are going to nvidia with some of them ending up in the hands of MSFT, Google, and a few scam corps.

Buffett told a story about how when they bought the BRK textile mill, the CEO came to them excited about a brand new mill system that increased output 15% or whatever. Buffett told him "I hope that's not true because if it is, I will shutter the mill". Because everyone could buy the new process, none of the users of it benefited, while it greatly increased invested capital. All of the gains went to the seller of the machines and lower prices for the consumer.

>> No.56703203

>>56703186
There are retards with MBAs that think that AirBnB will be able to take over the global vacation industry because they are sinking a bunch of money in AI so retards don't have to think about where they want to go. How do you think that plays out?

>> No.56703240

>>56703153
https://www.youtube.com/live/3CCeB_n6Mrc?si=dbbbZISUrkGQ7S3E
The intro starts about 4 minutes in. He fucked her.

>> No.56703263

>>56702869
>>56702890
>>56702897
>>56702930
Thanks I think I get ETF's now.
It annoys me that most financial instruments sounds gibberish to me. I want to understand how to evaluate these things.

>> No.56703274

Why should I buy SPY when i can buy FNILX and get zero fees

>> No.56703276

>>56703240
>that face
If you only knew how bad things are

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Just wanted to pop in here to remind everyone that half life is a shit game and the deeper I get in the game the shittier it gets.

>> No.56703314

>>56703274
You can't sell covered calls on mutual funds

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>>56703310
Morning rocker

>> No.56703337

>>56703327
Good morning sir.

>> No.56703359

>>56703186
>It's a "working product" that doesn't really move the bottom line
Yes it kind of does though. it automates a lot of the soft jobs like HR and IT. Plus removes wasted time.
>all the gains going to nvidia
Nvidia is selling to every AI company. I own their stock too but microsoft is the only one with an actual revenue generating product right now.

>> No.56703392

>>56703359
>Yes it kind of does though. it automates a lot of the soft jobs like HR and IT. Plus removes wasted time.
This is the same thing as the example I gave you. Existing companies that can't use that freed up labor aren't going to see long term savings from reduced HR labor. And the number of large companies capable of usefully repositioning staff is probably under 12 globally. Meanwhile they are forced into a cycle of investment in, or leasing of, expensive computer equipment with short lifespans that everyone is now forced to buy.
This is completely ignoring whether or not limitations get worked out.

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>>56703392
>Meanwhile they are forced into a cycle of investment in, or leasing of, expensive computer equipment with short lifespans that everyone is now forced to buy.
Wait so like the 90's again? WTF I love AI now??

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Satya got this, if not planned this.

>> No.56703419

>>56703392
Its not so much about saving money as generating more revenue. if i can spend 10 minutes reading 100 emails and a bot gives me a recommendation of forward action i can do multiple jobs better instead of 1 job decently. companies can pay microsoft $30 a month and get more revenue back that is worth more than that. Microsoft just redid bing and will continue to and can actually beat google at search because google sucks now. thats new revenue for microsoft as well there. its not simply getting rid of people its opening up new more efficient projects that didnt work before.

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>>56703418
Planned from the start. Altman was too unpredictable tech guru types who want to blab their mouths off. Now Satya can take it over completely.

>> No.56703436

>>56700054
TLDR first part

>> No.56703461

>>56703428
When Satya gives interviews, I see a *way* underrated man who knows some serious shit that few understand, and he likes it like that. He's playing a good *long* game of poker. I read Bill Gate's book "Road Ahead" back when it was a new release. MSFT will inherit the earth.

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*open sources your LLM*
nothin' personal...
*lawsuits will continue among people whose works were "trained" for LLMs*

>> No.56703471

>>56703461
certainty an actually smart pajeet in tech. the google guy is pretty underwhelming and the others like mastercard are all shabbos types that have no thought process.

>> No.56703488

>>56703310
Kind of like your life?

>> No.56703500

>>56703419
How does this new efficiency increase revenue? Where's the new business coming from? I am unconvinced that people will require AI services more and more such that this technology becomes a revenue generator rather than a reason for expense cutting. Once expenses/jobs are cut it's one and done per each corporation utilizing AI as you say they will.
In other words, 1,000 emails a day needing to be processed won't magically increase to 3,000 per day just because AI lets you get through them faster. Why were there that many emails to parse in the first place?

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>>56703471
>>56703461
>>56703428
>>56703418
huh?

>> No.56703508

>>56703488
Rude.

>> No.56703516

>>56703500
True
>work faster done = more revenue
>completely neglecting it doesn't mean more demand
>also less people working, more unemployment
>economy good

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>>56703502
huh?
>>56703500
checked but you are kind small minded bro. (or just not jewish desu).
>AI can be leveraged to identify data patterns from the user’s consumer behavior and build out the sales funnel more accurately than a human. The AI pinpoints high-quality leads, which in all likelihood will be a solid buyer.
Ad revenue is pretty big and making it better with stuff like ai can boost ad revenue for companies like META, AMZN etc.
> Why were there that many emails to parse in the first place?
I was a low level wagie on an oil rig and we generated like 300 emails a day. most of the people on our mailing list had several rigs so easily over 1k a day. some are significant, many arent.

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>It was just a minor tryst, hon hon hon, ze follies of youth..
>frankly, from meez Altmam's notes, your may need some work on le techniquè
>Come, we will show you ze way..
Well, this is a country that gave 50 Shades of Grey a "G" rating...

>> No.56703542

>>56703469
>has no office suite that every corporation is 100% dependent on already in place for mass deployment into *everything* *everywhere*

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&q=price+is+right+loser&&mid=2D8FE60AFCE6135473EC2D8FE60AFCE6135473EC&&FORM=VRDGAR

>> No.56703566

>>56703528
With all due repespect you seem to be confusing the cause-and-effects. Why would better advertising mean oil rig emails increase from 1,000 per day to 3,000 per day?

To be clear, my question "Why were there that many emails to parse in the first place?" is not meant to be answered literally. The answer to that is the real work demand driving force, which is a market entirely different from AI in basically every circumstance. No movement in those sectors means AI is just dead weight

>> No.56703574

>>56703528
>>AI can be leveraged to identify data patterns from the user’s consumer behavior and build out the sales funnel more accurately than a human. The AI pinpoints high-quality leads, which in all likelihood will be a solid buyer.
If everyone can do this, the net benefit to each company is likely negative since you have to source the required capital from an oligopoly vs hiring salesmen
>I was a low level wagie on an oil rig and we generated like 300 emails a day. most of the people on our mailing list had several rigs so easily over 1k a day. some are significant, many arent.
Again, you are replacing the job of a secretary (or 2) that can have virtually no bargaining power with computer chips purchased from a handful of global firms with massive bargaining power. Does not benefit the owner of the oil rig since all rig operators will see the same cost savings and the marginal oil well now goes ITM, slightly increasing supply in the long run. Benefit goes to chip manufacturers (designers really) and "society"

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>>56703500
It will increase revenue for those who adopt it first because they'll be able to take business from those who don't. I doubt, however, it will increase the Total Addressable Market or whatever the meme sales term is. There are only so many manufacturing lines for physical goods, and only so much people might buy. The only thing AI will do is raise the bar even higher for minimum IQ needed to not be desolate poor.

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>>56703574
>each company
There will be fewer and fewer companies as we go from here until someday there will
ONLY
BE
ONE

>> No.56703615

>>56703528
Right bottom
>AI
>MORE SALES
lol, I'm not gonna buy more because of better or targeted ads.

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>>56703605

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>>56703633

>> No.56703647

>>56703605
>Schumpeter talks about this

>> No.56703649
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>>56703591

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>>56703605

>> No.56703694
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>>56703605
Or maybe

>> No.56703721

>>56703647
Source?

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>>56703647
>Schumpeter emphasizes throughout this book that he is analyzing trends, not engaging in political advocacy.
Fascinating thinker. I wonder what the Terminator movies would have unleashed within his trend-vision analysis? I wonder if he also read Wells' "Time Machine"?

>> No.56703743

>>56703728
What book?

>> No.56703755

>>56703605
>one company
>many states
you want gommunism

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>> No.56703768

>>56703605
Sure would be nice if the gubement would do their jobs & prevent monopolies or something

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>>56703762
Wtf are you doing drinking? its 8 in the morning.

>> No.56703779

>>56703768
government is the most powerful monopoly

>> No.56703783

>>56703694
I figure there will be 3 primary tiers, and that will mainly be contained within the lower. The lower 2 tiers will be somewhat resemblant of Wells' "Time Machine", but the upper, decision making tier will be far from retarded in the classical sense. I call them "decision making", but that is almost a best case scenario, and won't last very long either way. Ultimately the AI will make all of the decisions, but there will be some era where the "decision maker" humans will still choose between options which the AI produces.

>> No.56703792

>>56703779
https://youtu.be/RbTaP0_Galg?t=178

>> No.56703799

>>56703743
Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy

>> No.56703919

I lost $5000 of covidbux to meme stocks in 2021 and havent played the market since just CDs but im older and wiser now. What's the pulse right now? I have a lot of savings and a gut feeling hit me a couple weeks ago that 2024 is going to be a massive bull run. Need to get up to speed

>> No.56703928

>>56703918
>>56703918
>>56703918
the suffering continues

>> No.56704001

>>56703919
>2024 is going to be a massive bull run
KEK
>KEK
KEK

>> No.56704013

>>56703919
Invest in nintendo

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>>56700742
>Maybe you will listen now.