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why not live in vietnam where you can get a blowjob for $10

>>56641618
Oh also I forgot to mention the infrastructure that is 1000% better than anywhere else, Nice roads, nice sidewalks, nice houses.
You don't find such thing anywhere else.
Just accept it, USA is better in every shape and form

>>56641618
I am absolutely desperate to move to the US so I can finally get paid a decent wage
My salary would 2x doing the same work that I do now
There is literally no better country on earth if you work or start a business

>>56641618
the problem you are missing is that the US is getting worse every year, becoming poorer, dystopian, authoritarian, and crime ridden. across the board every place in the US is worse than 20 years ago. and demographics ensure the trend will continue, only whites as a group pay taxes, they are quickly being replaced
>t. latino immigrant getting the fuck out as soon as possible

>>56641618
>his analysis of "better country" is framed around consooming and access to consoomer goods
good morning jamal paciano de la tour smith-hernandez-lopez.

>>56641618
>good food
>in the us

top kek

>>56641628
Because not only of blowjob lives a man.

>>56641637
Same here bro, my dream is to move there it's been since when I was 16 years old I'm 24y now and still haven't made my dreams come true, it's just so fucking hard to move to that place the worse part is that they have so many useless people that hate their nation while somebody like me who would be a benefit to their nation they refuse to give me a VISA.
If I were there I would have nice gaming rig, a car, and possibly a wife too and a average job that pays me what I am truly worth.

Right now I live in a fucking favela in south america and I can't afford this lifestyle anymore I fear missing out.

>>56641665
you should really go there once before you move there, you will be surprised be reality. the USA is not what you think it is, and i can tell you are building up a picture of a distorted reality through things you read or images on the internet

>>56641665
just illegally immigrate you retard, holy shit.

>>56641674
You can still aford nice tech goods, nice car, good food for cheap, nowhere else in the planet you can do such a thing working in a regular job.
USA is still the best.

>>56641696
I can't because coyotes ask 20k usd for that and I can't afford such, it's all so tiresome.

>>56641724
just starting walking, dumbass. literal 45 IQ brown retards with $0 figure it out and you can't.

>>56641754
>Implying it's that easy
You forgot to mention all the deadly stuff along and if you get there alive there's no certaintity you will get citizenship when you enter USA in fact you may remain forever a ilegal running from the cops and all that..
Idk just seems like too risky.
Where are you from?

>>56641650
>the US is getting worse every year, becoming poorer, dystopian, authoritarian, and crime ridden
>t. latino immigrant getting the fuck out as soon as possible
poetic

i live in the US for $1k a month and there is a literal mountain of uncleaned dog shit, like literal piles of shit everywhere all over the ground stinking up the entire complex. these people bring their dogs in and just let them add to the shit piles and it keeps smelling worse and worse and i think it's finally convinced me to leave the country

>>56641618
>good food
Look up all the ingredients/practices that are allowed in US but banned in EU. Look up all the food authenticity laws that countries like Italy and France has. Its really no contest at all.

>>56641890
in a fair and just world they would all be rounded up and fed feet-first into a biomass incinerator.

>>56641618
It's true, for building wealth there's no place even close to the US.
If you're already rich you can argue about other places which are more tax and lifestyle friendly, but if you're starting with little money and you want to get capital instead of subsist off gibs it mogs everywhere else.

>>56641618
Bong here - will I be safe moving to LA? I just want to hang out with Asian girls, get cheap clothes and drive a 70s car.

>>56641798
>in fact you may remain forever a ilegal running from the cops and all that..
If all you do is keep your head down and stay out of trouble this problem is nonexistent.
>there's no certaintity you will get citizenship when you enter USA
lets start off simple with a green card, which is still retardedly hard to get. I sent in 3 separate applications to get a green card for my wife, each one denied on technicalities in how we filed the paperwork after 4-6 months of waiting. Got a quote from a law firm to handle it for $5k which is egregious. Marriage is the easiest path to a green card, supposedly. The expected cost if the application was approved is like $2k. She spent 1.5 years in the country technically "illegal" and absolutely nothing happened. She was pulled over multiple times by highway patrol for minor traffic violations and they never mentioned it because it's literally not their problem. The immigration system in the US is so fucking bureaucratic and inefficient it's comical. I can see first hand why people emigrate without papers because the alternative is wasting a massive amount of time and money to subject yourself to taxation. Yes it opens up a lot more jobs to you if you are reasonably educated, but most emigrants aren't. If they don't plan on settling in the US, a green card is nothing but a burden. The immigration system is completely fucked and needs reworked from the ground up

There are few places where you can make some serious gainz. The US, Switzerland, Czech Republic if you are a good entrepreneur and are well connected (not joking about CZ, it's really crazy how much money you can make there with all the loopholes in the system), and some other countries.
But the safest bet is of course the US where even a junior engineer is making decent money.
Alas, I can't find a company to provide me with a H1b visa so I am stuck in Scandinavia. It's decent enough here but the combination of medium salary + high taxation + living costs means that scandis are one of the most endebted people on the planet. "well-off", "happiest people on the planet", "high living standards"... everything depends on loans and I hate that. I will never take a loan from a bank.
I am an engineer with a master's degree. I honestly thought getting a visa would be easier but I guess I'll have to wait and get way more experience before being considered. Fugg

>>56642011
there's a line out the door for H1B due to fixed quotas per country
your only real options are marriage, family or qualifying investment
best bet to work in US w/o visa is as a contractor through a shell company, but yes you will need some experience to pull that off

>>56641967
That's true
Still tho the hardest part is actually moving there
I dont even know how I will make this dream come true, it's all so risk, do you know you can get deported as soon as you get there right?
That's why I wanted to do the VISA method but the visa is soo fucking hard almost impossible.

Idk man, I think I am stuck in my favela.

>>56642084
The story I've got from most immigrants, legal or not is they had a family member or a friend who already moved and "set up shop", so the migration isn't nearly as difficult because there is a clear landing point and someone who can help you integrate into society (place to live, work, etc.). It's harder when you are the one having to bootstrap that process, because you will literally have nowhere to live until you get a job and work for a few weeks. Where do you want to live, which place has the best balance of opportunity and community to support you (vs a den of backstabbing criminals who will try to exploit you like a slave due to your vulnerable position). That's the difficult part. I've heard of people getting a job in a mexican restaurant and living there for a few weeks to save up enough money before moving in with someone else, then eventually getting their own place. It's a process. But within a few months it snowballs pretty hard.

Since you understand english pretty well, it would make it a whole lot easier for you. There's so many illegals who don't understand the slightest lick of english and tons of white boomers who want to hire them but can't because of the communication gap. People who bridge that gap make decent money as foremen/supervisors, comparable to the average american.

It's definitely a leap of faith and some luck is involved, such is the nature of emigration. But mostly it comes down to proper planning and meeting the right people. With the right plan, you will meet the right people, and everything else follows.

Should go without saying but the most obvious suggestion is "follow the money". The best place to be is a reasonably well developed part of town with low crime. You won't be able to live there initially, but you *should* work there, because that's where the money and the police are. A bunch of criminals looking to exploit your labor or rob you are less likely to operate in an area with strong police presence, for obvious reasons.

>>56641724
>I can't because coyotes ask 20k usd for that and I can't afford such, it's all so tiresome.
If you can get a tourist VISA to Canada you can just walk right into the US from the north

>>56642011
H1B for Jeets only, ser

>>56641949
>have any unexpected event
>enjoy 6 figure debt

>>56641618
Fuck off, we are full

>>56642268
Thank you anon
Yes I was thinking on moving to mexico soon and staying around there watching the border and getting ready to cross it someday
not entirely sure yet
First i wil ltry the usa visa, but I've heard there's some good places in europe too, wdyt?

>>56642393
You can't stop me Mr Robert Johny.

>>56641632
I thought US infrastructure was dilalidated

>>56642988
It's a pysop from anons on /pol/ and 4chan overall to make you believe the country is doing bad when in fact it's NOT at all, it's doing very well still compared to everywhere else.

>>56641618
I would go to US of fucking A to live.

But the H1B Visa looks like a fucking nightmare and I'm too old for that shit.

I made it to the USA to work. It actually is way better.

>>56643057
how old are you anon?
I knew this one guy that moved that at age 50y and he have acquired more things than his entire life in my country lol

>>56643192
I know anon I know, my dream shall one day be fullfilled..
Do you already own a car?

>>56643222
Yes. You basically need one to get around. I doubled my income by moving here.

>>56641632
weak b8

>>56642011
>Everything depends on loans
>He said as he talked about a country where you can finance a fucking pizza into weekly payments
Lmao America would melt your brain

>>56641632
OP you're right, I spent 15 years in south america and the only thing wrong of the US atleast here in the south from what I've seen is, the people are stupid and there are too many guns. But its a beatiful country with a lot of great women in every shape and size (literally).
Theres basically something for everyone, and the country prizes hard work but its also really good into getting you into the systems of debt. its a trade off.

In south america, what I most valued were my friends and family, because you dont have the money, here everyone just values money and not real relationships.

>>56643222
About to be 39

America is almost impossible to immigrate to without money.
You can try going to school here, getting F1. You need to get accepted into a college and show that you or someone else can financially support you.
If you have a degree, and can find a specialized job, you can try H1B, which has its own retarded rules.
You can save up, invest $50k in a business, and get an E2 if you're in an eligible country. I think Brazil is one.
You can try to get married to an American.
Easiest way without dealing with crossing the border is to get a tourist visa, fly here on vacation, and never leave. That's how the majority of illegal immigrants get here.
This is not legal advice, but I'm not gonna tell you what to do.

>>56642988
You heard wrong.
It's not dialidated, it's dilated.

>>56641618
The entire reason I started a business in Europe was to open up a branch in the US one day and secure myself an investor's visa.
It beats playing the green-card lottery.
I don't care about the politics, the people or even the infrastructure. I want 1000 acres of fields and forest with a cozy log cabin in the center of it all with a bunker filled with antique firearms, canned food, Glenfiddich 12 and a 2 TB server of pirated movies and vidya to weather any storm that may come.

Since I'm still short about 800K to get in the easy way I keep on keeping on.
A man's gotta have a dream.

>>56643298
You don't need EB5. You can open a branch office of your existing business and qualify for L1, port to EB1C, and get a green card. Or you can get an E2 for $50k like I said and renew it indefinitely, no path to citizenship though.

>>56643272
The investment threshold is closer to $1,5 million. It got bumped up to 200% of its previous requirement under Biden.

>>56643316
No you're thinking of EB5. E-2 is different. I work in immigration law.

>>56643313
Interesting. I might be able to apply for the L1 by this time next year then, if all goes well with my business.
Thanks for the heads up.

>>56643342
It's not too hard, you just need to find a good lawyer and rent a physical office for your business, along with other things to show your business and legit and that you'll have employees.
The threshold for qualifying for L1 is slightly more difficult than others so I strongly, strongly suggest going with a reputable lawyer.

Is there any other countries to move to for financial security besides USA?

>>56643368
Thanks for the info. Looking around I read that I can't file an EB1C on behalf of myself, though. Since I'm the owner of the company it seems odd I'd have less leeway than an appointed manager to file for this type of visa, no?

>>56643388
EB1C is for multinational managers and executives.
You set up a business, get a new office L1 (L1A) for 1 year, extend it, maintain it, and then qualify to apply for the EB1C. The basis for the EB1C comes from the fact that the business has been active for at least 1 year. The EB1C allows you to apply for a green card by adjusting status. It's just a fancy word for applying for a green card while you're physically inside the US. If you were born in a European country, there shouldn't be any wait time to apply for a green card because the government has no backlog for countries other than China, India, etc. - it's why a lot of Indians on H1B have issues because they're here for 10+ years doing slave labor to get a green card eventually.

>>56642952
no opinion on Europe as I'm just a humble southern hillbilly who has never left the country

>>56642988
depends entirely on the area, even in the same city you will see areas that are booming with new construction while other areas (i.e. the ghettos) collapse to the ground from disrepair. Money chases money

>>56641618
Unironically planning to move to the US and straight up abandon my medical license in doing so. Working basically any job there pays more than being a bongland doctor and converting your license is a complete nightmare.

>>56643298
based American dream chad

>>56643438
I see. Thanks for the info. Makes it way easier to bite the bullet on it so I'll try to fast-track the opening of a branch then. Won't really care if it would cost me all my last year's profits.

>>56643484
No problem friend, it's not a cakewalk but I fully support people immigrating to America for positive reasons.

>>56643513
Yeah I'm ready for this taking a few years. It's kind of odd being raised English with a father that had lived between NYC and Charleston for 10 years in the 80's so very much being an American at heart and not having the opportunity to live there.
I can't remember a time where I didn't feel like I was going to end up in the US as a citizen.
The older I get the more I feel like I was born on the wrong continent so I wanna bag that passport before I turn 31 or I my roots might get to deep and I'd end up stuck here.

>>56643556
I feel that, wouldn’t mind having 1000 acres either but it probably won’t ever happen; despite helping people immigrate here I’d rather live somewhere cheaper and less full of bullshit. If you have money though this is the place to be.

>>56641618
The only people hating the US are bitter polcels and FSB ivans

What about mega caps? They issue a bunch of visas every year, no?
Yeah... no. The best way is to transfer within the same company. Seriously, why is it even so difficult? I just want to work in the US. They let a bunch of beaners, indians, and chinks in... oh well, I'll try my luck in Switzerland or Norway in the meantime

>>56643272
As a Canadian I could just drive across the border and never leave right?

>>56641637
You have no clue what cost of living is like here. I make $180K a year and my wife earns $140K. We can't even afford a house. We do live comfortable lives and travel to Europe twice a year, have a car under warranty, and an ocean view in our apartment. But we can't buy an actual house in a low-crime neighborhood.

>>56644065
>cost of living is like "here"
>california

>>56641618
I am trying to move to USA but you niggers don't give me an h1b or a green card.

>>56644065
US has cheap housing on an international comparison when you account for house size.

>>56641618
>muh goyphone
thirdies are so retarded i swear

>>56644419
It one of many examples you fucking retard
Your IQ is so low that you can't even interpret a basic text, fucking fat burguer-fueled brain.