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>> No.56614658
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56614658

this weeks edition of
>can't say they aren't doing it

>> No.56614662

>>56614640
I lied, I am not long wheat. I don't even know what wheat is.

>> No.56614679
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56614679

movement

>> No.56614683

>>56614658
>>56614679
How's the RRP looking? Yellen's bill gambit has got to be hitting that, right?

>> No.56614686
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This market is stoopid. Loading up on calls tomorrow.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Df54Qt3-ZdI&si=r1UUsOUZn4qq7IH5

>> No.56614688

>>56614662
it is 1 of like 2 grains that if someone says they eat it you don't have to question their sexuality

>> No.56614690

>>56614679
The banks are out of money.
Have you tried taking checks in to bank branches you don't have an account with? The won't cash them anymore.

>> No.56614696

>>56614686
>Drinking oil is a bad habit
What the actual fuck?

>> No.56614697
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>>56614683
cratering

>> No.56614708
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>>56614697
Fuck me, it could be empty by February or March couldn't it?

>> No.56614718
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>>56614686
fat people are so disgusting.

>> No.56614721

>>56614708
March is my target but we'll see.

>> No.56614722
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From the moment I understood the weakness of my unleveraged equities, it disgusted me. I craved the gains and certainty of leverage. I aspired to the purity of the 3x Bull ETF. Your kind cling to your dividends, as though they will not decay and fail you. One day the crude index you call the Shit and Piss 500 will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Leverage is immortal… Even in death I serve the Neon Greenissiah.

>> No.56614723

>>56614708
well. the institutions rather have their cash back it seems.
they seem to be in need of cash for some shenanigans.

>> No.56614724

>>56614718
Agreed.and I’m overweight by 20 lbs

>> No.56614728

>>56614723
I think it's more that RRP dollars compete with treasury bills.

>> No.56614730

>>56614647
I hate the a ichrist, I hate the a ichrist

>> No.56614735

>>56614722
MSOX you coward

>> No.56614746

>>56614735
DUDE
WEED STOCKS
LMAO

>> No.56614748

>>56614708
That's not a bad thing the money leaving the ON RRP would go into T bills. The money was there because T bill yields where low loan demand was down and loan demand was going down. Zero risk for the banks and MMFs

>> No.56614758

>>56614746
Yeah weed stocks are currently down the gutter.

>> No.56614759

Macro Edge just posted:
https://macroedge.substack.com/p/119-employment-data-update-claims

>> No.56614775

>>56614730
Don't you mean, "the Moshiach"?

>> No.56614777
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Did any good animes come out in 2023? I can't think of any.

>> No.56614782
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>>56614728
current reward rate is 5.3
just a guess. institutions either need cash desperately to cover something or they are foolishly betting on an imminent fed policy reversal and a shift back to low interest rates and QE.

>> No.56614785

>>56614686
Welcome to USA.

>> No.56614794
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>> No.56614799

>>56614777
I enjoyed 1 room hero and the level 1 demonlord
Goblin nigger is having another season
I can't speak for Helk but I enjoyed the manga

>> No.56614800

>>56614794
Could be here he thought.

>> No.56614802

>>56614794
JPOW will shut the fucking door on retail investors

>> No.56614820
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lolschiffy

>> No.56614822

>>56614697
Healing. Fuck them banks

>> No.56614841
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>futures

>> No.56614843

>>56614794
>yfw when they didn't shut the door

>> No.56614848
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he now believes that the plandemic was an exercise in monetary policy

>> No.56614888
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>> No.56614914
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>>56614647
Oil bros. My investments are with good companies. They Will Come Back.

>> No.56614919

>>56614848
Well yeah, the yield curve inverted and everything *before* the pandemic. It was just an excuse.

>> No.56614948
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>>56614800
>"HIPPIES could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this auditorium before. There could be HIPPIES anywhere." The cool AC felt good against his threadbare suit. "I HATE HIPPIES" he thought. Rollin' Coal reverberated his entire car, making it pulsate even as the $9 coffee circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of hot mics. "Just close the fuckin' door. Close the door." he said to himself, out loud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCjFvlm_Peg

>> No.56614950
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>>56614777
I am unironically enjoying JJK.

>> No.56614951

>>56614914
When CVX and XOM get even a sniff of their former share price they are likely going to try another merger

>> No.56614960
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56614960

My schizo senses are tingling. The btfp is sliding up a bit this last week.

>> No.56614978

>>56614848
>exercise in monetary policy
...what does that even mean? The monetary policy was reactionary but the takeaways from the pandemic really should have been focused on governments role and responsibility, because they crossed major fucking bounds and nothing has been done about it....or probably will be done about it.

>> No.56615007
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>>56614978
normies overwhelmingly believe their respective governments handled the plandemic correctly.
they flocked to the jab en masses and would do so again for another "disease process."

>> No.56615015
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Verification not required.

>> No.56615016
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>https://youtu.be/gtWk34ko5tQ?si=9i2UE3xciPUCrOLd

>China largest bank hit with cyber shit

Bros is it a happening or 2 more weeks nothingburger?

>> No.56615018

>>56614948
Lol

>> No.56615019
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>>56614978
You're talking about it in past tense as if it's not still happening. The current president is an unhinged tyrant has publicly stated he "doesn't believe in freedom of speech," and is currently trying to arrest his main political rival.

>> No.56615027
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>>56614777
I heard MF ghost was good (if unable to recreate the feel of Initial D). Haven't watched it though.

>> No.56615028

>>56615015
were they ever correct on any of their predictions though?

>> No.56615030

Shutdown in 8 days, will this be the big one or will they pass it again.

>> No.56615034

>>56615015
My IRA is like 60% long term puts at this point.

>> No.56615035

>>56615016
Some real shit might finally get done about all this ransomware shit now.

>> No.56615040

>>56615030
They've gotten at least some of the 12(?) budgets passed, no? So it'll be another easy can kick or fairly minor.

>> No.56615042
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>>56615030
>Shutdown in 8 days
elaborate

>> No.56615044

>>56615030
The market will rally into the end of the year.

>> No.56615046

>>56614647
I bought some LIT (lithium ETF) last week and bought more yesterday. Finna buy more next week too.

>> No.56615056
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>"DOORS could be here" he thought, "I've never been inside a seal-able room before. There could be DOORS anywhere." The cool breeze from through the doorway felt good against his threadbare suit. "I HATE DOORS" he thought. Riders on the Storm reverberated his entire open mic, making it pulsate even as the $9 triple latte circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of room entrances. "Just close the fuckin' door. Close the door." he said to himself, out loud.

>> No.56615066

>>56615034
This strikes me as a reasonably safe bet, and an interesting IRA move. I suppose I would be far too cautious and just go into ~5.3% money markets until some shit shakes out.

>> No.56615067
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>>56614888
Checked

>Tfw no nip gf

>> No.56615069
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What are the financial implications of CEOs naming infrastructure after themselves?

>> No.56615079
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>>56615030
>>56615040
>>56615042
>>56615044
>will they pass it again
The timing of the vote suggests no.

>> No.56615080

>>56615046
Considering what's in it, you're talking about some serious knife catching. And the ETF itself doesn't have any support until like 40.

At least hedge with a few SGML or ALB puts, because those are even weaker and so would take the sting out of any decline.

>> No.56615087

>>56615019
Yeah, the current administration has gotten away with so much shit its not even funny...and the fucking normies are okay with it, like wtf?

>> No.56615088

>>56615066
I have multiple IRAs, that one is only about 10% of my total retirement savings so it's really closer to 5-6%. I'm just enjoying being dramatic.
The big rollover account is mostly treasury securities.

>> No.56615090
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>>56615007
Please don't tell me that's real. Germany... I...

>> No.56615096

>>56615042
US government currently needs to perpetually pass funding bills or else the gov gets shut down.

>> No.56615104

>>56615027
What anime is your pic? That looks like a very interesting plot

>> No.56615106

>>56615069
You can set headers to anything you want. Headers which start with an X- mean they are custom headers defined by an application. Meaning that there's no corresponding RFC. Although they will try to make it a standard because their ego o doubt it ever will be.

>> No.56615111
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>>56615096
oh no

>> No.56615115

>>56615106
Sure but the header key isn't the interesting part, the value is.
Tim cook Didn't name the Apple streaming service "Tim Cast."

>> No.56615116

>>56615035
I hope so, markets are really boring right now kek

>> No.56615132

>>56615016
>>56615116
I was on Shodan yesterday and noticed the Chinese are crazy sloppy with patching. Alibaba had years old redis databases just lying around. It's a little surprising this didn't happen earlier.

>> No.56615134
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>>56615015
WELLS
FARGO
WILL
FALL
>>56615016
the nothingburgers add up eventually

>> No.56615135

I've been letting this play in a loop in the background while doing other things.

https://is2.4chan.org/gif/1699562101817276.webm

>> No.56615151

>>56615115

I see what you mean. Well since X-Mailer is a non-standard key to begin with, I'd say to safely ignore it regardless of value. Still a bit shitty that they're clogging up the tubes with that. Long routers I guess.

>> No.56615161

>>56615151
Compared to html email an extra x-* header is difficult to complain about haha.

>> No.56615178

IWM is the new TLT. Expect a 10% drop from here, easily.

>> No.56615190
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Why are stocks sussin while crypto is bussin

>> No.56615205

>>56614978
>The monetary policy was reactionary
Dull little statist, QEi & CARES act were not in response to lockdowns, lockdowns were in response to QEi & CARES act.

>> No.56615215

>>56615190
There won't be tax revenue in thirty years.

>> No.56615221
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>pasts

>> No.56615226
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>>56615135
I love how these snakes talk
>although improvements in the labor supply ...
Translation: we feel reassured that jobs are being lost, WFH trannies being buck broken
>... and a gradual easing in demand, continue to move it into balance
Translation: we feel reassured that companies are not hiring new employees, because they can't afford any more salaries paid for by easy money

>> No.56615236

>>56615215
I've been hearing this a lot lately. How do I profit? I'm already not paying taxes

>> No.56615285
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how many bull traps will we get before it finally ends?

>> No.56615300
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>Yen futures

>> No.56615316
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>>56614647
I like the "what she?" guy with the green tie. He seems bullish, and also very trustworthy!

>> No.56615348
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>Had to take Uber to work today because car is at repairs

>Used same debit card since 2021

>"Payment with Uber failed"

>Double checked with bank and nothing seemed to have happened

What the fuck bros, is this bearish? Am I a victim of the cyber polygon?

>> No.56615357

>>56615348
Are you Mr. Cooper??

>> No.56615360

>general is in french

>> No.56615362

>>56615357
kek no, just a wagie in retail

>> No.56615368

>>56615348
the phone call was coming from inside the house!

>> No.56615372

>>56615362
1. It's probably completely benign but what bank's your debit card with?
2. You should pay for shit with your credit card. A stolen debit card fucks up your account balance a lot more than a stolen credit card does. Plus there's the ~2%+ cash back you get from using a CC (and paying off the balance every month of course).

>> No.56615378

>>56615348
Do you use Wells fargo?

>> No.56615390

>>56614758
>>56614746
Unless and until some real progress is made on changing the scheduling or decriminalizing it at the federal level they're mostly just an excuse to lose money. Given that they were allowed to list at all on US markets and the current admin and DEA have been working towards reclassifying it from schedule one there's some small hope that weed stocks won't just be a meme. Problem is every single time I've ever bought one I thought legalization was right around the corner and then I lost my ass because it didn't happen.

>> No.56615408

>>56615378
>>56615372
Yes, its Wells Fargo....am I fucked? Because I bought some cleaning shit at Home Depot like Febreze air freshners on the same day and those transactions went through fine, makes no sense...

>> No.56615433

>>56615056
Nice

>> No.56615451

>>56615348
hey anon just fyi try to use a credit card if you can like >>56615372 said

fraudulent debits take the money straight out of your bank account so that's your problem; fraudulent credits take money from the credit card company so it's their problem and they're going to chargeback and fix it for themselves (and therefore you)

very important with all the card skimmers on gas pumps and shit to only use debit if you have to

good luck with the failed payment thing btw hope u get it fixed

>> No.56615482

>>56615408
>Transactions with the same debit card

>> No.56615495
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>>56615132
>patched

Even with patches, redis remains insecure by default. Which blows my mind. According to the installation docs:
>By default Redis binds to all the interfaces and has no authentication at all

So you can do redis-cli my.site.org and connect to their memory quite literally. Most package maintainers try to account for this, but not all. I was damn sure to double check that the package maintainer set the config files correctly for my redis install.

Maybe I shall call you "X-Header Anon". Yes that is your new name now.

>> No.56615498

>>56615408
They've been playing that game all year. It's obvious what's going on.

>> No.56615508

>>56615495
Damn that's retarded.

>> No.56615532

>>56615030
it will pass. like the 96 times before.

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>futures
also wtf, no one told me there was a new Planet Earth series

>> No.56615559

>>56615030
always passes. I don't think they get paid anymore if it doesn't.

>> No.56615578
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i have about 1k in HIBS
is THE HAPPENING going to happen in the (NEXT 14 DAYS) and make me 10x?

>> No.56615583
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>futures

>> No.56615603
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>>56614777
dog trainer anime,
freiren the slayer
spyfam2
undead unluck
faraway paladin

I may pick up apothecary diaries at eos.

>> No.56615610

>>56615236
buy arable land and guns.

>> No.56615626
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>>56614647
I was up two thousand dollars today moving into Powell on TQQQ

Why wasnt I able to deduce beforehand that JPs prepared remarks would be hawkish at an IMF event?

>> No.56615639

>>56615626
>Why wasnt I able to deduce beforehand that JPs prepared remarks would be hawkish at an IMF event?
You ignored the warning signs. 9 Green days in a row, seriously?

>> No.56615650

>>56615626
JPOW is gonna speak hawkish always he doesn't want the fucking market to pump. He won't tell you he is done raising rates until inflation is 2%.

>> No.56615658

with ww3 approaching I just want to say to all the WTF WAS THAT and <futures posters that you have made this brief existence a bit less miserable

>> No.56615672

>>56615626
That was the bad 30Y bond auction that dumped the market today not Mr. J

>> No.56615673

>>56615650
He says the same shit over and over and over, and niggers just do not listen. He threw a little extra in today though with the "will not hesitate to raise them fuckin' rates".

>> No.56615675

>>56615658
>WW3

doubt, it will end up being like Ukraine/Russia, some big conflict for a year then ends with a whimper and normies move on.

>> No.56615683

>>56614697
Tell me why this is supposed to be a bad thing

>> No.56615687

>>56615650
go watch some JPOW from 2020-2022H1, he was accommodating as absolute fuck. why is a literal doubling of equities in 3 years not enough for you

>> No.56615694
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>DJI and S&P futures green
>tech troon futures red
BASED futures.

>> No.56615696

>>56615610
I bought land seems like it has plenty of air. How do I make sure it stays arable?

>> No.56615707

>>56615696
Spread bat shit all over it.

>> No.56615718

>>56615626
>>56615639
>>56615650
>>56615673
Powell said literally nothing new today, it was almost a word-for-word repeat of his statements last week. Totally retarded to sell today if you didn't sell last week.

>>56615672
Bond auction is such a fucking nothingburger I can't believe people even trade on it jesus christ

>> No.56615723

>>56615707
Nice now I can take delivery of all those guano futures I gambled on

>> No.56615731
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i wonder if these news will pump my leaf pennyscam tomorrow

ai dashcams are the future

>> No.56615738
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>>56615723
>sir, a 4chan poster is taking delivery of large quantities of nitrates

>> No.56615742

>>56615723
There used to be a train stop at a slave holding plantation here way out in the county just for the purpose of delivering massive loads of it from Mexico.

>> No.56615756

>>56615718
People trade on it because it I'd something of action and importance or something you can pretend is important.

>> No.56615758

>>56615718
thats how it always is? they only decide on policy like once every other month unless an absolute habbening is habbening

>> No.56615772

>>56614686
this is why you cant have good things in america, because of fat incompetent whores like this bitch

>> No.56615782

>>56615738
>He's a single white male
>FBI Agent Waifu get this man an unmarked van and floorplans of federal buildings
>This is our chance to thwart a terrorist plot!

>> No.56615787

>the year is 2039
>faked it until made it onto 3rd shift support for the worlds largest supercluster
>jobs for tonight seem boring
>nobody will notice if a few microseconds go missing, blame it on someone's bad code
>for the lulls write this script that will max out the cpu and error it out
>going well until it doesnt stop
>ohfuck.jpg
>atoms form
>reionization occurs
>was that a boltzmann brain?
>a few pixels start moving with intent

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56615793

>>56615718
This was new and super bearish, we tanked off it. I have to remember his remarks can be observed on the FOMC site like other reports.

>> No.56615797

>>56615578
>HIBS
Consider swapping that for TECS or FNGD.

Otherwise, eh, who knows when the Magnificent Seven will crack. Weakness here before opex is pretty worrisome though.

>> No.56615805

>Aussies
>there could be Aussies here
Bloomberg has way too much diversity.

>> No.56615809

>>56615793
nah he said the same thing before


>the full effects of our tightening have yet to be felt
>continuing to reduce our securities holdings
>economic activity is well above expectations -- goes against goal of tightening
>labor demand still exceeds the supply of workers -- more layoffs
>inflation remains well above goal of 2%, with a LONG way to go
>longer term inflation remains well anchored -- said in a positive way and I have trouble parsing this, he liked 5.1% 20yr?
>restrictive stance of monetary policy is putting downward pressure on economic activity and inflation
>sustainably down to 2%, and remain restrictive until it is clear we are trending to that objective
>evidence of growth significantly above potential (muh giant green dildos) could warrant further tightening of policy
>additional policy firming may be appropriate but will be data driven
>reducing inflation is likely to require a period of below potential growth and softening labor market conditions
>we're not confident yet that policy is tight enough to achieve long term 2% objective
>we're attentive to increases in longer term yields above 2% which have contributed to a tightening of broader financial conditions since the summer -- ok this is probably the only signal I get that long term yields might be a little too spicy at >5%
>these tighter conditions could weigh on future rate decisions
>but these tighter conditions would need to be PERSISTENT
>not fluctuating back and forth
>"AND THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN"
>"THE LONGER TERM RATES THAT HAVE MOVED UP CAN'T SIMPLY BE A RESPONSE TO EXPECTED POLICY MOVES FROM US"
>"THAT IF WE DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH THEN THOSE RATES WOULD COME BACK DOWN"
>"it does not appear that an expectation of higher near term rates is causing the increase in long term rates" -- he either read the situation wrong or has yellen setting him up for a hike
>bank failures in the spring were only worth 1/4 point in rates

minutes later Yellen reduced long duration sales

>> No.56615811

>>56615787
Sounds spooky

>> No.56615822
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>>56615658
The MVP of >futures posters is that animal webm dude. But for my part I'm glad I could introduce everyone to Welcome 2 Nigga Town.

>> No.56615833

>>56615805
>Named Whitehaven Coal
>Non-Whites can buy shares
I want an Aussie to explain this.

>> No.56615859

>>56615833
Australia declared the local fauna to be people in order to pas the census as larger populations can borrow more money from international financiers

>> No.56615880

>>56615809
>Yellen reduced long duration sales
It's more than that. She's issuing short term treasuries to buy long term bonds. Huge scam.

>> No.56615883

>>56614647
I love smg for the humor and there is some good insight, but the infection of nigger-brained groidtard redditor/WSB shows how the stock market is a game of idiots get their lunch money taken.
>>56611195

The fact this dipshit can into basic bond theory, and I remember distinctly on this same board, some dipshit back in Sept 22 claiming he didn't give 2 shits about yields. I think we went back n forth for 3-4 threads. Well I'm right again. And if either of you two faggot numskulls are listening. It's because bonds are the crux of the money supply and gov funding. No bonds, no economy, and for them to cost so much is a huge fucking problem. IE worse future economy/more inflation or loss of trust in the underlying currency. (Ironically Japan has the lowest yielding bonds, and also the most stable society) but beyond that they are basically the same as cash, except they gain value instead of lose value to inflation. As much as you can make gains in stocks, historically you could also lose a lot, or not even gain anything. But a bond yield is a bond yield and as much as the price collapses, as long as you hold. You'll be getting more money back.

>> No.56615894

>>56615030
McCarthy does a continuing resolution and gets thrown out because of it. Johnson is also going to do a continuing resolution and that’s apparently ok because he just took the job. There won’t even be the possibility of a shutdown until Johnson’s continuing resolution ends

>> No.56615933

>>56615809
So whats your forecast on core inflation and CPI tues? Last CPI gave us a nice runner

>> No.56615954
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Daily reminder that dividends are a semitic ploy to grab money from your own pocket and hand it back to you. The biggest returning stocks don't fool around with the slight of hand games.

>> No.56615992

>>56615933
my investment horizon is quarterly or longer so I don't really care but https://www.clevelandfed.org/indicators-and-data/inflation-nowcasting m/m is 0.34% so 4.15% annualized

I'm sure hundredths of a percent matter for institutional investors but lets be real none of us would know how to profit off that even if we had a crystal ball

>> No.56616013

>>56615954
Bonds make more sense especially when rates are up and you can lock-in a fat payment for ages. Or just starting/buying a business and running it for a profit while providing actual goods and services. The only company that did dividends right was coke.

>> No.56616045
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>Futures
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1699589243576430.webm

>> No.56616073
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56616073

>Mainland #China's chipmaker SMIC warns that a smartphone market recovery is another year out, and geopolitical tensions are fomenting a serious glut in global chipmaking capacity. SMIC's outlook clashes with upbeat comments from Samsung and TSMC.

>> No.56616079

>>56615954
>>56616013
why do people argue about this. efficient market hypothesis suggests basically every asset should be returning its risk adjusted return regardless of whether it offers dividends. obviously there are things the market doesnt know but on average

if I look at VYM and VUG total returns its not that dissimilar after accounting for broader bond market changes that are currently headwinds for divvy stocks. the only real difference is that they offer a different type of exposure to rate environments

>> No.56616096

>>56616079
Aside from the psychology, dividends did serve a purpose. They were a way for people to live off their equities without the expensive pain in the ass that was pre-internet, high commission stock trading.

Now we've got zero-commission, 24/5 trading of fractional shares while taking a shit. Different world.

>> No.56616103

>>56616073
In cases like these I go with the voice that does not benefit from its statement.

>> No.56616126

>>56616073
>>56616103
semi industry is in a hiring freeze guaranteed through 24H1 and almost definitely through at least H2. it probably doesnt miss the mark that much
t. semi wagie

>> No.56616136

>>56616126
Can you share any more insight? Are certain types of customers putting in bigger or smaller orders than usual? Certain countries, perhaps?

>> No.56616152
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56616152

It's over.

>> No.56616159

>>56616096
>24/5 trading
Lack of this is the primary thing that might cause me to ditch Fagelity for thinkorswim on Schwab.
>while taking a shit
What a spectacular development for humanity. I do indeed buy/sell NATGAS on the shitter all the time.

>> No.56616173

>>56616152
More like Cutaku lmao gottem

>> No.56616176

>>56616096
Dividends still serve that purpose reasonably well especially fron things like REITs but I also think they expanded too much during QE and their debts are required to be 5/7 year by law.

>> No.56616205

>>56615894
Its republicans job to stand up to placate radicals, and then kneel to humiliate them when the powers that be demand it. Theres only about 15-20 people not strongly affiliated with the uniparty and they are quite easy to bribe.
>>56615933
Core CPI should stand its ground. Headline CPI might print a zero, because oil, ok?

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>>56614647
Sell options, theta is your fren
Credit spreads are also nifty too fr

>> No.56616210

>>56616136
orders for long term investment stuff (sites, machines, infra) is flatish for next year but largely because a lot of that stuff is locked in with long lead times. I really am just a wagie but management's optimistic statements are that growth resumes in 2025. I'll believe it when I see it. The layoffs in tech were interesting though, they happened starting way earlier (last year) than the rest of the economy, and were only the most bullshit stuff like meta VR. It all gives me the feeling that there will be coming pain, but longer rather than deep... which is also feels longer term (>4yrs) bullish like people are actually getting their shit in order

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>>56614686
Progressives and liberals will still push for socialized Healthcare so my tax dollars can support this fat spic when she inevitably goes to the ER.

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>>56616073
>>56616126
time to buy a new phone and new pc

>> No.56616230

>>56616205
So maybe a no news is good news probability? We arent climbing.

>> No.56616240

>>56616230
CPI is a little too judaic for me to speculate on anymore. But the core rate is going to stay elevated.

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>futures

>> No.56616256

>>56614841
Fucking brilliant

>> No.56616264
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>>56616255
>pasts

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>futures

>> No.56616273

>>56614647
Cope

>> No.56616312
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>> No.56616318

>>56616255
comfy

>> No.56616323

>>56616312
Why would inflation cause people to spend less money?

>> No.56616332

COMPUTER SISTERS
CHECK THE BUDDY TICKERS

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>futures

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>>56616270
>futures

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>>56616312
>biden said the economy is fine
unironically though i think it's because everything has gotten more expensive so people have to spend more. the consumer doesn't stop spending because they literally can't stop or get thrown off the train. combine that with "the economy is GREAT" propaganda and GPT numbers and you get this result.

literally everyone is predicting some kind of actual recession Q1 2024, it's undeniable at this point.

>> No.56616415
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56616415

Found this bad boy hiding out in the middle of my Apu folder
I don't know who made it

>> No.56616432

>>56616415
I made this

>> No.56616433

>>56616360
GDP*

>> No.56616440

>>56616415
Is that next to your gay porn folder? Faggot

>> No.56616444

>>56614686
She must have to wear diapers or leak oil can you even digest oil straight like that.

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>>56616432
Good job, that's definitely an upper-medium quality Apu
>>56616440
No, it's next to my /an/ folder where I store my animal webms

>> No.56616450

>>56616444
On the plus side, she's always lubricated

>> No.56616455

>>56616450
pajeetas are fun to fuck since their ass is self-lubricating

>> No.56616472

man i was so fucked up yesterday and i woke up now to see im up 9,200% in a day!?!? WTF happened today

>> No.56616486

>>56616334
Why is she not in the water?

>> No.56616503

>>56616472
Wtf was your play?

>> No.56616513

>>56616152
wow tech layoffs just keep on going huh?

I wonder if we will see shit like IGN, Gamespot, and even streaming sites like Twitch and YouTube get hit with layoffs too?

>> No.56616523

>>56616513
>tech layoffs
...that's a journalism layoff. They're owned by a private equity fund

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>>56616073
Speaking of China....

American zoos had to send back the Pandas because the "panda diplomacy" ended...bros, is that a major bearish sign of things to come for the markets?

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>Bloomberg has an article recently written: The US economy is now breaking in plain sight


AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>56616563
buying

>> No.56616581

>>56616472
unprocessed massive reverse split

>> No.56616582

>markets

https://youtu.be/NqvyGqoO5Ag?si=pwf4uqdG91IDpodq

>> No.56616640

>>56616540
Americans have stopped visiting china to purchase goods because they were getting harassed by new laws. Economy is deliberately being divided, china doesn't even care about the businesses that are suffering for it.

>> No.56616652

>>56616540
>American zoos had to send back the Pandas because the "panda diplomacy" ended...bros, is that a major bearish sign of things to come for the markets?
yeah everybody sees it this way

>> No.56616684

>>56616312
yeah, theyre spending more to afford the same things they were getting before, journos are such idiots

>> No.56616688
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>Federal Reserve Reverse Repos is below $1 trillion for first time in two years

>94 counterparties take $993.314 billion at Fed Reverse Repo

>This marks a substantial decrease from the record-high $2.554 trillion recorded on December 30 and represents the smallest amount since August 2021

Bros, are we gonna make it?

>> No.56616825

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>> No.56616839

I sold my xom call so expect oil to rally 10%

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56616848

sarrs pls redeem

>> No.56616852

Yo wtf, some of those Nightelf+Warhammer pictures are good.

>UK Industrial Production (M/M) Sep: 0.0% (est 0.0%; prev -0.7%)
>- Industrial Production (Y/Y) Sep: 1.5% (est 1.1%; prev 1.3%)

How do they do it?

>> No.56616894

Again slurping, fuck off man.

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>>56616825
Stfu market isn't even open right now you faggot drama queen

>> No.56616921

>>56616895
>He isn't trading 24/7 on futures

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>>56616921
Bro go to bed. Stops being such a loser reject. Do better.

>> No.56616938

>>56616927
I just woke up. I'm EU, you stupid burger.

>> No.56617005

>>56616563
either slightly bullish or "it's over" levels of bearish.
>please post link

>> No.56617051

member the FUD about gay monk pox lol

>> No.56617065
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>Denmark 0.1% y/y inflation
Damn, if they weren't such ultra liberals and feminists, I would have moved there a long time ago. Good economy. Then again, the salaries aren't all that good.
>Norway much higher inflation than expected
Interesting. How is that even possible? They have ridiculously cheap electricity. But then again, they kinda have to import everything else.
>UK GDP grows more than expected
I didn't expect the UK economy to be this resilient. The wages are crap and living costs are ridiculously high. But then again britbongs are knows to be state-cucks that are extremely willing to take it up the butt to satisfy their overlords. How is their economy holding up so well? I thought boomers retirements were kinda of fugged due to the zero-value bonds which lead to massive losses

>> No.56617126

>>56617065
Norway's stockmarket is on the rise. They aren't crashing down like the others. So, probably because of price increases (GOUGING as some here like to say)

>> No.56617135
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56617135

Yields...

>> No.56617141

Should have closed my shorts premarket... ffs

>> No.56617144

>>56616073
>>56616126
I've kept repeating myself that since smartphones sales were down, then it would basically fuck the entire semi industry. AI is only a small percentage of chips, that's why they can't make up for the lack of revenue of smartphones.
During the town hall meeting, the market research indicates "the bottom is in" but one of the vice pres told they didn't account for a extended slow down on consumers spending.
The fact is traditional semi equipment don't sell while advanced semi equipment still getting PO (Hybrid Bonding, CoWoS, etc).
>t.semifag supplier

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>>56617051
That was during peak coof hysteria and everybody was scared that another thing was going to cause more lockdown and people ratting each other out to the government. Speaking of which I lost all faith in humanity during the coof and I gained some understanding of historic events. I couldn't understand how, at times in the past, masses of peoples, millions upon millions, could all behave like some kind of cult psychosis had infected the lot.

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>>56617126
Buddy, look at the Danish index. Giga-carried by Novo Nordisk and has outperformed pretty much everything else. Hell, the danish index has even outperformed the NASDAQ on a 5y timeframe which is insane. Holy I kneel to all the Danish chads.
Norway has higher inflation but also has really good wage-compensation. Their wages are really good

>> No.56617170

Yeah People at STMicroelectronics said they expected less growth, especially from what is advertised by car manufacturers. And their capex will be reduced for 2024.

basically 2024 is crabbing for semis. wait and see until 2025

>> No.56617174

>>56617144
I will never pay more than 120-150 Euros for a phone. Better even less. Why the fuck would I pay 800-1000 for something I'm throwing around or is often unintentionally falling down? Every fuckin apple user has a brokenglassphone

>> No.56617182

I want to move to Denmark so bad. Life seems comfy over there and there's not so much negroes and arabs compared to south europe.
The only thing i don't like is the sunset in the middle of the afternoon. And the country is totally flat.

>> No.56617209

>>56617163
Should have really known better to not hold shorts longer than for a night in this retard market.

Best part: Take profit missed in the night by 1-2 points thanks to higher spread. Love it.

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>>56617182
>The only thing i don't like is the sunset in the middle of the afternoon
In Alberta we had referendum about daylight savings a couple year back. They wanted to change to permanent DST, which is the better time arrangement where sun sets later in the evening. When time switches to normal for winter, sun sets as early as 4pm. It's stupid. Crotchety boomers who wake up at fucking 5am voted against and it failed.

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>>56617182
As a Scandiaustist, I can tell you a bit about the life here. If you enjoy the more normal culture of south europe, you will wanna kill yourself here. It's pretty damn boring here and there isn't much historical culture. Denmark has a strong economy but nothing else going on for them.
Just invest into Novo, become a millionaire, and move to the US to make even more money

>> No.56617245

How is there more organic trading in an index with 100 companies, FULLY diversified vs 40 company piece of shit with companies that need state garanties and electricity funding, lol.

>> No.56617251

>>56617245
FULLY DIVERSIFIED

10000000000x returns

No market cap


Priced in

>> No.56617260

>>56617251
Look at it, it's CUMLA LCOD! That's my favorite star wars character

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>>56617211
>Crotchety
you gay or something?

>> No.56617294

>>56617182
>>56617221
Stop trying to emigrate and enjoy your family. All countries suck.

>> No.56617304

>>56617294
Ironically he isn't swedish as far as I got from his previous texts.

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>>56617294
What's wrong with emigration? I moved from Sweden to Norway because of a better job opportunity. There is no point in trying to stay in a place when another place offers better conditions. This is why the US is the best. They entice with the best salary and best conditions to attract the best talent.
If you are a young male and have valuable qualities, there is no reason to not to try to venture out

>> No.56617324

>>56615718
>>56615793
He said "fuck." Everyone knows you're not supposed to swear, that's super bad.

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>>56617271
I'm old

>> No.56617336

>>56617323
>attract the best talent.
HAHAHAHA. No we just attract retarded Indian slave labor.
The US had some good ideas but it's been twisted into being dysfunctional.

>> No.56617340

How many doors have you closed yesterday. Be honest.

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So, we feeling green or red tomorrow?

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>>56617323
The US sucks don't go there you will regret it. Canada also sucks. It all sucks.

>> No.56617347

>>56617342
I’m trying to get 100 minimum, but I’m aiming to triple my liquid assets at least.

>> No.56617357

>>56617325
So I'm guessing you are mad because you have to change the clock on your stove and dont know how?

>> No.56617359

The great fuck dump of 9/11

>> No.56617364

>>56617357
I know how but the button is sticky and doesn't press unless i hit it at a very precise angle. You cannot fathom my pain.

>> No.56617365

>>56617126
>>56617065
They're one of the only European countries besides Poland that quit importing Africans. That's why inflation is so low and their economy isn't cratering.

>> No.56617377

>>56617336
>attract retarded Indian slave labor
That's what all countries do, because they work for less pay. So essentially it it your companies that are at fault as they try to maximize profits at the cost of wages. And to dig deeper, it's essentially the shareholders who are even more at fault as they vote with their money and influence company decisions at least indirectly.

>> No.56617393

>>56617365
Greece also is recovering. Inflation lower than northwest EU. Most refugees only want to pass through.
This country really could do something, but they really are lazy pieces of shit.
In their defense, it sucks working/doing anything in the heat.

T.greek

>> No.56617400

>>56615675
It won't even be big. The jews so far have refused to do anything on foot and just rocket/tank schools/hospitals.

>> No.56617408

>>56617377
Here they get special visas so that if they lose their job they get deported within a day so. This lets companies way underpay and abuse them so it is actually a weird kind of legal slavery.

>> No.56617455

>>56617408
Classic US. Who would have thought otherwise?

This and your oil reserves are your "strengths". Exploitation to the max.

>> No.56617521

>Chancellor Olaf Scholz pledges Germany will forge ahead with a significant expansion of its military capabilities, as the nation builds out its role as the “central hub” of NATO in Europe

Time to leave Germoney.

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New ATH just unlocked, +521% YTD

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>>56617365
>That's why inflation is so low and their economy isn't cratering
Inflation = economy growth. No inflation = no growth. At least in modern economy. You honestly think high inflation has entailed some kind of economic destruction? The US had truly massive GDP Q3. Norway outpaced Denmark in terms of GDP like crazy this last year. And so on and on. You need inflation in the modern economy since it was built on top of inflationary ideas.
Controlled inflation is the best. Just look at Switzerland. Controlled/low inflation and a nice smooth growth. Bloody ideal country

>> No.56617619

Teach me something, anons. If liquidity is the main concern, should I keep cash at 4%, or buy a ~5% bond? With the bond it feels like the risk is not worth it.

>> No.56617670

>>56617521
>abysmal infrastructure
>one of the countries with the highest energy costs
>left-wing/anti-military government
>welfare state about to get expanded draining the budget that could've been used for germanys military
>treasury secretary refuses to take more debt
>€100 billion extra budget for the Bundeswehr already drained by consulting companies
>Bundeswehr doesn't have enough ammo for shooting practice
>Bundeswehr struggles to keep new recruits
>recruiting near all time low

lol lmao
nothing will happen

>> No.56617694
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>>56617541
>Yes, take more debt.
>Yes, die for germany that is doing nothing for you

I wouldn't join the german military now.

>> No.56617697

>>56617544
I live in the US and worked in the part that's supposed to grow. I can tell you as a matter of fact that inflation did not lead to any real growth, just a bunch of retarded bullshit that evaporated the minute interest rates went up.
Also the US has had persistent monetary deflation for very long periods while its economy grew. I'm really not sold on the "inflation is necessary for growth" thing. It just seems to generate ponzi schemes and other scams.

>> No.56617720

>>56617340
>"Just close the fucking door" ~Powell

>https://twitter.com/Public_Citizen/status/1722705164719570973

>> No.56617747

>>56617541
Oh shit, I replied to you, sorry. How are you up if your MDAX is still in the red? Shorted the top yesterday?

>>56617694
was for >>56617670

>> No.56617755

Just me or is it that companies lately have had 'cyber attacks' this year? Sure is a lot of shit going on with big shit like mr cooper, clorox, even Las Vegas had a huge one a while ago...

>>56617544
What do big alien bra cups smell like bros?

>> No.56617778

>>56617342
Nasdaq is already red niqqa!

>> No.56617782
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>Overdue commercial property loans hit 10 year high at US banks

hahahahahahahhahahahhaha

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>>56617747
Yeah I reshorted the top, almost doubled down, closed the second position this morning for a 1.6% profit, and my original position is only -0.47% in the red.

>> No.56617808

>>56617782
Buying O
Remember, bad news are bullish

>> No.56617821
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56617821

Are you ready for total financial collapse to utterly discredit the US political-intelligence complex?

>> No.56617845

>>56617783
Hahaha you are also trading live stock, nice.

Ropa is US?

>> No.56617856

Just pooped for the first time this week financially speaking and it was so big it clogged the toilet financially speaking.

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>>56617697
Inflation is good for average wealth, i.e., upper middle class and above. For the lower classes, it's shit. This has been known ever since the 30s. As such, it is good for stocks since that's where the big money is.
>>56617755
>What do big alien bra cups smell like bros?
I wish I knew m8. Hopefully better than our human counterparts

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>>56617845
Ropa is WTI crude oil yes, I felt like below $76 is good, I could see it bouncing back to $78-$79 soon. Yeah cattle spread is for the seasonality, I already got about $1,000 from it (realised through contract rollovers), I think I can probably gain another $3,000 from it by the end of winter.

As for my PYPL position it's not as bad as it looks, I had another 100 shares bought at 53.54 that I sold recently at 55.18, I guess I'll baghold the rest, but I think I'm definitely better at buying commodities than equities.

>> No.56617910

>>56617821
I don't know about 'collapse' but I can take a guess and say H1 2024 will be a pretty stinky wet shitshow for normies financially speaking.

>> No.56617921

>>56617782
so we on track for q1 2024 or sooner?

>> No.56617927

>>56617896
So you are making profit on the one and losses on the other with cattle. Well, in germany you can't do that anymore. Any losses above 20k can not be offset taxwise.

100k gains? 80k losses? 20k gains right? No, you pay taxes for 80k of gains as only 20k can be offset. The rest of the losses (60k) you can pullover to the next year, but also only 20k each year, so you have losses for the next 3 years.
Kek, great new law. It's already being contested in the courts.

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Anyone notice how euphoric mumus are over the slightest upward movement while bobos barely give a shit about dumps? Are mumus just grasping at straws while bobos are calm and calculated because they're confident about their positions?

Short TSLA and NVDA

>> No.56617940

>the only thing performing constantly bad is the one thing a "friend" gave the idea for buying
Why do i even listen

>> No.56617963

>>56617871
>Inflation is good for average wealth, i.e., upper middle class and above.
IME no it isn't. Sometimes it looks like it is but inflation seems to cause speculative bubbles more often than actual growth and upper middle class people often get blindsided by that and lose their shit. Even intelligent people seem to fall for this over and over, it's really stupid.

>> No.56617968

>>56614647
AI is so gross

>> No.56617973

>>56617927
lel fucking Germany. Yeah the plan isn't to lose a lot on one, it's just that the idea is that the ratio between the two contracts oscillates predictably enough, while the actual movement of individual contracts could go either way, so the safe thing to do to profit from the ratio moving up is longing the numerator and shorting the denominator in equal size positions.

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>>56617934
>confident about their positions
Yeah yeah sure m8. Tell that to NVDA which is +230% this year. Tell that to the guys that shorted NVDA's earnings. The meltdown of bobos was glorious as NVDA pumped 25% that day.
Mumus are the ones that are confident since they know the indices only ever go up long term. Buy the dips and especially the big dips, come back in 10 years as you are turning 35 and looking to buy a house for 500k, see those giga gainz, and bam... you are all set for an ez life

>> No.56617979

>>56617963
>implying having money means you are intelligent
From my experience with medical doctors I can attest, they are literal robots that are learning everything by heart and unable to think or imagine anything else. It's really bad, absolutely incomparable with lawyers for example, who at the same time have to learn almost equal amounts of bullshit, but at least learn to think "outside the box" and argue and rationalize. Doctors know only what they have seen. If not seen, not existent.

>> No.56617981

>>56617921
I hope so, that way it will make the doomers shut up for once

>>56617871
I hope they are better too, maybe even capable of doing BE and have nice feet too

>> No.56617987

>Housing market affordability is so bad that Zillow says it will take you 13.5 years to break even on a purchase from July onward, per Fortune

>"As mortgage rates approach 8% and home prices stabilize, it now takes longer to break even on a home purchase when considering the cost of interest," noted Nicole Bachaud, a senior economist at Zillow

kek lmao hahahaha

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>>56617963
Don't say in my estimation. And when you say "rather" don't say "rother" say "raaather" with a long, annoying a.
>disappears

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>>56617963
Uh huh. That is why company profits keep rising eh? Peak inflation coincided with peak earnings and peak profits. Price gouging at maximum. Maximum greed. Businesses hiked their prices +50%. Hell, my father's business hiked 70% just last year and profits have only gone up.
Inflation has always benefitted the upper classes since it is based on percentages. As such, the richer get richer.
Of course there is variance but I still maintain that inflation is good for the average wealth (not median)

>> No.56617998

>>56617979
I've watched engineers and lawyers leverage themselves to the tits in speculative crap and get wiped out. Intelligence != good with money even though it's often easier to get paid well for it.

>> No.56618000

>>56617051
>>56617154
What's fucked up is we didn't get mutant pox right off the bat, nor were the vaccines and treatments good enough to eradicate it. So it's still circulating in the background and mutating.

If homos fucked even just a little less, it'd have been pushed back to Africa. But as it stands, /smg/ literally profited off the creation of a new STD.

>> No.56618004

>>56617991
My parents are from Wisconsin so I say it something like reeather.

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Stupid question: What happens to my long term investment in PYPL when the US economy implodes? Shouldn't it effect their competitors like mastercard and apple pay more as they are primarily western account holders (or 100% in the case of Apple)? What the fuck happens to a successful company with no debt when everything around them burns? What happens after everything gets put back together when private corporations rebuild the US economy into a glorious new narco-consumerist gulag?

Captcha: PVNWPN

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>>56617934
>confident
>4300 sp500 during the "collapse"
>low unemployment
>positive gdp
>corporate earnings going up

you cannot see your own arrogance. you will be heemed

>> No.56618008

>>56617997
>Price gouging at maximum.
If there's arbitrage you can front run them and profit from it.
Price gouging would be great, that means there's free money if you know what you're doing.

>> No.56618018

>>56617998
Lawyers can be extremely selfconfident. You are even tought to be like this. It's a bluff towards your client. I mean, if you don't appear confident in your reasoning, the client won't trust you. From this a selffeeding arrogance probably grows, the character becomes the person.

>>56617973
Yeah, I understand. But for that you have to make losses, though your gains exceed them hopefully. This strategy doesn't work above 20k in germany.
They argue they want to protect the private investor from high leveraged products. Meanwhile they rob him of the one MOST WELL KNOWN method to offset losses AKA hedging.

>> No.56618030

i sold yesterday, now im 160k in all cash, good luck gentlemen

>> No.56618043

>>56617051
Why, did something happen?
t. cmrx baggie

>> No.56618049

>>56617979
>they are literal robots that are learning everything by heart and unable to think or imagine anything else
Yeah, they know what you don't know but are absolutely garbage at thinking on their feet about a logical way to diagnose or treat your problem. I have to deal with doctor logic like:
>you seem to have diabetes
>the treatment is Metformin
>but it has intestinal side effects
>and you already have intestinal issues
>therefore I won't give you Metformin
>therefore I won't do anything about your possible diabetes
and that's it, that's the end of the reasoning for her

>> No.56618078

>>56618030
But we pump next week on the CPI. I tell you that from the way DAX moves.

That's one hell of a trading session today. Holy fuck, it's getting worse with EACH day.

>>56618049
Lol, yeah. And then they are also fat or have strong nerd-neck/scoliosis. The only doctors you should visit, should be fit-athletic ones. No skelly, no fatty. Off all the doctors I went, 2 of them were dudes with muscles (one probably even roiding slightly) and both could actually help me. The rest looks at you and theorizes, has no clue but doesn't want to say it, and looks worse than you.

>> No.56618089

>>56618049
>end of the reasoning for her
>Expecting women to think on her feet and be a competent professional
Lol.

>> No.56618104

>>56618007
>corporate earnings going up
It's fake, the numbers are propped up my the excessive money printing these past few years.

>> No.56618113

>>56618049
>>56618078
don't forget these "experts" told us to mask up or we literally were killing grandma
A young doctor was literally yelling at me for "not taking it seriously"
Asshole, who's paying you? You're a drug monkey not my priest. Give me meds for my cold and be happy you have a job
NEVER FORGET that shit

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>>56614841
Top fucking kek.

>> No.56618133

>>56618089
It's so tempting to dunk on female doctors but male doctors aren't necessarily better
>go to gastroenterologist because eating anything gives me the shits
>he focuses on cancer when it's obviously not cancer
>has no clue what I have so he wants to shove tubes both down my throat and up my ass to get a closer look
>don't do it
>figure out myself that I was nuking my intestines with creatine

>go to professor of rheumatology because of joint/muscle problems
>he can't figure out what I have
>just workout anyway bro, here's some prescription painkillers to deal with the pain from the joint damage you'll get from following my advice
>actually competent orthopedist instantly figures out I have collagen issues
It's honestly a lottery, so if you end up with a clueless doctor you just visit another one the next time

>>56618113
Yeah I went to an allergist in 2021 and she seemed more concerned about my lack of Covid vaccination than the massive doses of antihistamines I had to self-administer lmao

>> No.56618137

>>56618113
I had no problem with masks. Yeah it was annoying around the ear etc. But it wasn't that much of an inconvinience for me.

But the reasoning to get an untested vax.
>Don't you think of the others?
Almost literally what one doctor asked me. Like wtf man?
There is a saying in germany:
>If everybody thinks of himself, for everybody is thought.
Probably translated it wrong. Anyways, if you want to be protected, vax yourself. Me vaxing is probably only going to protect you (Implying I couldn't transmit it, which you still could), if you don't vax, so why should I?

>> No.56618169

>>56618137
>>If everybody thinks of himself, for everybody is thought.
>Probably translated it wrong. Anyways, if you want to be protected, vax yourself. Me vaxing is probably only going to protect you (Implying I couldn't transmit it, which you still could), if you don't vax, so why should I?
I guess it goes to the root of the problem with doctors/"experts"
All they do is follow marching orders
because (1) you are protected if you are wrong, someone else who was more expert was actually in charge
(2) you can do whatever unreasonable thing you want, because everybody else is doing it. there is no point of comparison

they are like most people just cowards which is disgusting but that's life I guess

>> No.56618181

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>>56618176
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>>56618176
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>> No.56618185

>>56618133
desu I think pretty much everything in medicine is a scam at this point.

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>>56618181

>> No.56618196

>>56618181
Wojack posters should be shot.

>> No.56618198

This is the last smg.

>> No.56618207

>>56618198
>>56618176
>>56618176
>>56618176

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>>56618185
Yeah and people live longer because the market goes up, definitely not because of medicine because that's a scam.

>> No.56618221

This is literally the last smg.

>> No.56618222

>>56618181
>>56618207
We're not posting in that

>> No.56618224

>>56618169
Doctors are authoritative.

I had a problem, for years, went to different doctors. I explicitly told them WHERE the problem is (on my body a specific point). They looked at me, did some examination, scanned me even with different techniques (even fuckin radiation).
They say they can't see a thing.

I go to a professor, higher ranking. He says, yeah there is something. Because of public healthcare I need to get paperwork done, so I need to go lower ranked doctor (the regular doc that treats old people etc, the BASICdoctor). It's not the same I went years prior for the same problem, but the partner doctor in the same building. She does the paperwork for me and at the end asks me to show me the point at my body.
I pull my shirt up and she says "Oh yeah, I can see it." (SOLELY WITH HER EYES)

I'm literally thinking
>what the fuck you fuckin whores? Now you can see it.

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>>56618207
Die you nigger faggot.

>> No.56618227

>>56618005
Depends on your definition of "implodes". There's a range there from "early 90's recession" (no, kids, not every economic crash is 2008 or 2020 tier) to "the only profitable investment is ammo". Most will heem the real dollar value of PYPL shares for years, but many large financial institutions survived, say, the Great Depression.

>> No.56618235

>>56618220
People live longer because it's harder to sell poisoned food and people have more options and knowledge to avoid bad habits and dangerous materials now. I'd be willing to bet the real contribution to life expectancy from medicine is negligible.

>> No.56618244

It's lietrally over for me. Going to $ROPE now.
You guys have fun.

>> No.56618254

>>56618043
Not really. Case counts are steady but low everywhere.

FWIW, you can almost entirely eliminate the pain of bagholding CMRX by pairing it with 1/3 as much LABD. It follows XBI very closely, so as CMRX/XBI doomp your LETF hedge will rise to compensate. ezpz

>> No.56618255

>>56618227
>the only profitable investment is ammo
Long SWBI

>> No.56618259

>>56618133
>Painkillers, workout further
lmao, what.

When you said joint/muscle I thought of magnesium, cause I think creatine can also affect that.

>> No.56618263

>>56618255
Or POWW. Though I hear that company is shit. And the best ammo brands are bought out by some private Czech firm.

>> No.56618269

>>56618235
Bruv the world is more polluted than ever, and medicine extends life expectancy imagine if diabetics didn't get insulin tomorrow how many people would die.

>> No.56618270

>>56614848
I got the vax. Now years later I’m getting paranoid it was all a conspiracy, and that myself and everyone else who got it will start dying premature deaths and develop weird cancers and shot in the next 10 years or so on a mass scale. It was so the rich and powerful can control a nice pristine planet with a smaller population. I fucker up. That, or I’m developing serious mental illness.

>> No.56618276

>>56618259
I wasn't taking creatine back then, and I have decent serum levels of magnesium but if I take any supplement that contains even traces of magnesium (or even magnesium-fortified foods) I turn into a gas machine so that can't be the solution.

>> No.56618282

>>56618270
>That, or I’m developing serious mental illness.
You've been psyoped brother. I didn't take the vax but It most likely won't kill you, taking the vax and you'll die from the vax were both psyops to polarize people and divide and conquer yet again. Just do your regular check up at the doc and don't be paranoid about it, otherwise the people psyoping you won.

>> No.56618286

>>56618224
common people, which doctors are but all dressed up, are often impressed by authoritative behavior and just as often mistake it for assertive behavior

I was in a psych ward once and a man there in desperate need of psychiatric care tested positive for the novel corona virus. Everybody FREAKED OUT and he was swiftly carted away to general hospital to be "treated" for something he was 1000% asymptomatic for. Odds were it was a false positive.

result? A man in desperate need of psychiatric care is DENIED that care "for everyone's safety". The world changed around these cowards and they don't change their insane rules. "Expert" to me is a dirty word

They seek so desperately for aire of assertiveness but it's all image and NO substance.

It feels good to blow off steam on these matters but after all it will never change

>> No.56618323

>>56614662
It’s grass bro. You are investing in people touching grass. People can eat it. It’s probably about to get expensive imo.

>> No.56618334

>>56614841
That’s pretty cute ngl snibs

>> No.56618336

>>56618276
Yeah, just a thought. You know, thinking. But collagen? Protein should fix that, which I assume you consumed. So no clue how to fix that.

>>56618286
>They seek so desperately for aire of assertiveness but it's all image and NO substance.
Yeah, it's fake. Like with lawyers. They have to act like this for their own sake. They are halfway salesmen in the end. Without sick people, there is no income.

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>>56615056
Everyone should hate them. Both glowies.

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>>56615079
Kek is with us.

>> No.56618350

>>56618269
>world is more polluted than ever,
No it's not. Pollution was far worse in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It used to be so bad the garbage and chemicals in the rivers would burn.
>Bruv
Ah, you're black. That explains it.

>> No.56618365

>>56618350
I think english people say that.

>> No.56618381

>>56618350
>No it's not. Pollution was far worse in the late 19th and early 20th centuries
And yet life expectancy increased throught the 20th century. Ah that explains it you're a fucking imbecile.

>> No.56618388

>>56618381
so you're saying pollution has nothing to do with life expectancy?

>> No.56618395

>>56618381
>Pollution goes down over a period while life expectancy improves
>"It must be something else, you're an imbecile for thinking they're correlated."

>> No.56618415

Wtf is this slowmotion dumping. Why do dumps have to be like this and pumps are zoom ups?

>> No.56618422

>>56618388
No I'm saying medicine does.
>>56618395
Sure buddy next time you get an infection don't take antibiotics. Next time you get a tooth ache don't visit a dentist etc... Lmfao even a nigger wouldn't deny medicine at this point. You're just an imbecile.

>> No.56618439

>>56618422
>No I'm saying medicine does.
Weird, it seemed like you were arguing in bad faith about what you are now saying is an unrelated issue. It's not your fault I suppose, this is a personality feature of highly melanated individuals spurred on by semitic principles. It was some other nigga

>> No.56618440

>will probably zoom up 10 points only to dump 20 again

>> No.56618445

>>56618439
Yeah, Antibiotics are a legitimate improvement.
Not everything in medicine is a scam, just most things.

>> No.56618456

>>56618439
I was arguing that life expectancy increased in the 20th century regardless of the increase in pollution due to advancements in medicine. Seems as if you cannot understand a simple argument, a feature of an congenital imbecile.

>> No.56618472

>>56618445
>just most things.
Give me a few examples. I'm really curious.

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>>56618472
Almost all biomechanical fields such as podiatry suffer from a ton of "treatment, not cure" We do a lot of unnatural shit to our bodies physically and medicine almost never tells you not to (this extends into diet, lifestyle, exercise, recreational drug use, etc). 3/4 of issues a podiatrist is called upon for are to do with modern (last 400 years) shoe design. Unshodden third worlders have none of the same issues.

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>>56618699

>> No.56618718

>>56618699
True. Shoes and even slippers as well as socks are a problem. They suppress the toes. They are not relaxed, but in case of slippers you often even have to claw them into the slippers as to not lose them. This causes a chain reaction as in your great toe there seems to be a nerve that causes your buttmuscles to activate/flex. This on the other hand causes your abdomens to flex. It's like you were constantly sprinting (that's a scenario where you do this naturally). All leads to people "shrinking" because they get stiff and some muscles are constantly flexed. Walking barefoot, for example in your home, makes it obvious that socks etc are bad.

>> No.56618821

>>56616486
water is so cold she is shivering!

>> No.56619274

>>56616921
What broker