/biz/ - Business & Finance

Not even shit apple earnings can stop the Santa rally. Bobos about to get heemed

Feels good to be back in SOXL now that SOXX is back above the 200 day moving average. We had a scare back there semiconductor bros but at this point I'd say we're back. Now let's fuckin GO back to $72 oooooOooooooOOOOOOooooo

VIX market maker paypigs my body is ready. Short UVXY broken wing butterfly chads let's fuckin go!

TOTAL KIKE DEATH

>>56548657
Shib wrong thread. Welp guess i'll see you guys monday :/

>TBAGC (Toyota Boshoku America Group Companies)
I will invest in this company.

UHM SO DOES SOMEONE WANNA SUCK ME OFF IN APOLOGY???
BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE TLT AND FUCKING TMF ARE FUCKING PRINTING!!!!!!!!!!!
WHERE IS THAT FAGGOT BAGGOT AT?!?!?!
"youre going to lead newfags to their slaughter saying shit like that" LITERALLY 3 DAYS AGO
FUCK HIM AND FUCK ALL THE NAYSAYERS

Crab bros. My iron condors aren't exactly getting heemed from this gigapumping but I've had better days with this strategy. How's everybody else doing?

Huh. I bought NRGU when it dumped a few days ago. Then at 9:55 I got a bad feeling on oil and closed my position. Then at 10:05 it dumped from 452 to 433. I'm not a big winner usually, but I like it when I pull off that uncanny trade. GUT FEELING BABY,

>>56548657
>GTKRWN for zoomers

You missed the short covering rally

SELL. NOW.

Disappointing other people, but my family in particular, is one of the great joys in life.
In any case don't forget BOIL.

200day ma bounce

>>56475958

God damn bobos and permadoomers are fucking annoying. Just eat your shit sandwich and learn to like it, will ya

There is no reason to not be in cash right now unless you’re buying individual stocks.

t. Berkshire Hathaway

>>56548740
Yeah I saw that too. It's the only reason I haven't bought more calls.

>>56548729
It hasnt even begun, most hedge funds are still net short

>>56548750
>damn bobos and permadoomers are fucking annoying.
Glad those insufferable fags are gone.

>>56548752
What if you just buy BRK.B and let Buffet figure out which stocks to buy?

>>56548481
All I trade is SOXL and SOXS based on their moving averages. The rest of /smg/ doesn't even exist to me.

Ok....... someone post the top signal webm already so we can get this over with

>>56548758
with good reason

>>56548746
>next day or two
>literally over a week ago
Prediction discarded as false.

rewatching blue mountain state while getting drunk, I don't want to be part of this market anymore.

move happens in premarket then crab all day. what a scam the market is. just do SOMETHING

>>56548766
>TFW it's Friday and thus a DRUK day

>>56548481
>bail at $15
>re-enter at $18
>bail again at $15
Genius. Couldn't have done it better myself.

You. Can’t. Have. My. Palantir.

think i might try my hand at options
i have read only the basics and dont quite get it beyond if i think price will go up by the expiry date i should buy calls

>>56548782
>what are weekends
retarded gorilla nigger

Why the fuck is AQB up ANOTHER 10% today?
It was up 19% yesterday

>>56548789
I know they made Moran the main guy, but Thad Castle was always the draw of the show; obviously.

>>56548772
Problem solved

>>56548812
Kek a literal castle is the draw of the show, a background prop. You guys are retards.

>>56548814

>>56548808
>calls me a gorilla nigger
>doesn't know how to count "cuz muhh weeknds"
Lmfao uhh you okay, bro? Next day or two is literally days, not market open days, muttbrain.
Lmao don't @ me again, faggot.

>>56548811
And its still down over 30% mom lol

>>56548805
Does anyone have any good PLTR meme images? I need one for my collection. I know there's the copypasta, but does anyone have it in jpg form?

>>56548824
>gets corrected
>starts seething
as expected from a poor

>>56548800
Checked.

>>56548821
Are you bullying me because you didn't buy TMF when I told you to?
Your fault for listening to baggot, chudface.

>>56548812
I'm still kind of upset that Craig Shilo was replaced was replaced by one of the most forgettable characters

>>56548811
Probably a sympathy bounce since PLTR/DKNG/CVNA are all pumping.
The real mystery is why the fuck SAVA is red right now. If the goal is to break CRBP, you've gotta step it up a bit.

Everythimgs is going according to plan

There used to be a guy who posted a soxl meme of some lead singer from a music video. I can’t remember what song or artist but In my head ithe tag line was “you buy the dippppp”

>>56548860
>you push it

>>56548738
I never, ever forget my beloved BOIL. Sometimes I cheat on it a little with UNG and KOLD though.

>>56548802
Your perspective on trading is off and will inevitably lose money. When SOXX closed under the 200 day moving average I sold SOXL. That concluded the trade and it was profitable double digit percentages. Realized gains. Now a new entry has been signaled thus a new trade is entered. It either wins or it loses. In the long term the winners will outnumber the losers and I am profitable. Each trade is a discrete unit separate from every other trade. The entry and exit prices are only relevant for a single trade, I.e. the one you're currently in. The day will come again when SOXL will enter another -95% drawdown. I will not be in SOXL when that happens. The day will come when SOXL moons 500%. I will be there for those gains. That's the point of the strategy

>>56548873
Thanks man. I’ve been thinking about that for two weeks

>>56548839
Here's to feeling good all the time.

>>56548860
>>56548873

>>56548811
The real question is, why the fuck are you keeping up with AQB?

>>56548885
Is that my nigga Wayne? He's been on my mind no cap.

I guess it's not going to drop at all today, huh. I think I'll need to roll my calls.

>>56548898
Because I have a meme jpg. I have a watchlist of every stock I have a jpg (or png!) for regardless of whether I own them or not.

Anyone attempting to swing trade this shit show?
I'm tempted to try and scalp 2-3% as we rally but this pump looks shaky.

Take profits now you fucking retards

>>56548904
Its not going to drop until January

>>56548899
Idk what you’re on about but palantir is going up

>>56548873
This guy died pushing heroin into his system but I do enjoy the you push it meme on /smg/. Thank you for attending my talk on this, that is all.

>>56548940

>>56548938
>help my shorts

>>56548914
Ah, exactly as I'd hoped. Indeed, you probably helped me to compile my meme watchlist many months back, which I kept while I was using E*TRADE. I wish I would have exported the list.

>>56548938
>Take profits now you fucking retards

>>56548938
>>56548934
Lol it’s retards like you shorting now that will fuel the next leg up

>>56548938
No, I don't think I will.

>>56548938
>taking profits too early
No

>>56548904
Big dick energy. Sending you good vibes. God speed

>>56548130
>bulls back in control
See you Monday, bud

>>56548938
No

>>56548960
god i want a sicko gf so bad

>>56548938
i made that mistake yesterday for moderate gains. let it ride.

i like a short on NQ at 15400 :)

>>56548800
Lil bit of chicken Fry-day, if you will

>>56548879
>The day will come when SOXL moons 500%. I will be there for those gains. That's the point of the strategy
It already did this, and leveraged rotation got a 15% gain out of it, over a similar timeframe that SPY is up 20%. This is before tax impact - which an S&P holder hardly pays.
If your only benefit is that you think the gains are guaranteed to outweigh the losses over time, even t-bills can accomplish that.

I'm laughing at you because you simultaneously believe the efficient market hypothesis, while also miraculously believing that you personally have stumbled upon this spectacularly unbeatable strategy.
The ultimate irony is that your very own existence is a direct disproof of efficient markets.

>>56548938
I closed my calls.
I'll probably wait a week or two to open new positions.

>>56548977
Cold beer (probably Scotch) on this Friday night.

>>56548981
Listen to the guy huffing his own farts. Ok Einstein what are your positions.

>>56548904
oops turns out I have to much, not enough intraday BP to roll. I have two options:
1. Hope we close below $78 or let them get exercised. My cost basis is $102.27
2. Sell some shares and buy back my calls.

>>56548995
I need to buy more beer.

>>56548981
Oh you're the retard back again who thinks a positive risk free rate hurts trend following strategies. You've been told over and over again why you're wrong and retarded. My trades make money. My last trade I just closed made money. And I am currently long SOXL a couple of dollars above the recent low. Kys if you don't like it

>>56548995
pair of jeans that fit just right

>>56549008
Is this some kind of bock? Mite b cool.

>>56548998
You don’t buff your own farts? I’m long pltr

>>56549017
Ay they don't want you to make money. They want you poor because they are poor

>EU dumping slightly
>US repumps
Anybody who is shorting the US is trading against the biggest ponzi ever.
I once lost not a small sum in early june shorting the US (also trying a new/different financial instrument) though constantly having shorted the EU ytd. -5k in 1 week. That's when I said I will not short the US again, I'll stick to shorting EU. On the other hand I bought SPX on friday, but didn't hold over the weekend. Missed out on a lot of gains. I'll short the EU and buy the dip on the US. Your ponzi is just too precious to let it die.

>GDX up 3.34%
anons wtf is going on.

>>56549016
Dark lager 3.8%. Very tasty though.

>>56549013
And my SOXL's uuuuuuuupppppppp

>>56549028
I'm long Poland but otherwise mostly agree with you.

>i-i-it's a ponzi
>I don't like what I don't understand

You know what? I don’t care what they about you, Smg. When the markets up you’re allllright

>>56549012
>Kys if you don't like it
There must be some kind of misunderstanding here. I love it. You're the 3rd biggest joke in this general. It's absolutely hilarious to me.

>>56548998
If you wanna beg, then get on your knees. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

>>56549028
you weren't wrong, just early

I am buying puts on SPY.

Time to make some money.

>>56549046
Okay retard

Going to short blackrock at 3x anons.

>>56549028
To highlight: I would not have lost that money if I had used the same instrument on the DAX/EU. That's the irony.

>>56549046
>There must be some kind of misunderstanding here. I love it. You're the 3rd biggest joke in this general. It's absolutely hilarious to me.
>If you wanna beg, then get on your knees. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

>>56549051
I was going to buy me some TMF and JNUG calls but it looks like I missed the boat on those.

WTFWT?

>>56549046
what are the 1st and 2nd biggest jokes

>Next week on /SMG/!

>>56548938
i take profits every month. they're called "dividends" or something

>>56549065
When he looks in a mirror and sees his own reflection

>>56549060
Need more posts like this and less like these two guys raging

>>56549066
I've been sued by some of those companies!

>>56549065
One is a jew, the other's a jeet.

>>56549066
I jerked off in secret with some of those companies!

>>56549035
>3.8%

>>56549060
>>56549051
who

>>56548347
Flat is absolutely not the same as a bear market or a crash. No one on this board has traded in 2007-2008
>>56548425
Not even a 30% drop. That's nothing

>>56549077
You are irredeemable now anon. You will no longer be allowed through the gates of heaven.

>>56549065
His tiny dick and prolapsed asshole

>>56549084
Lael Brainard

Scam pump

>>56549066
YIKES!
I do business with some of those companies
And by that, I mean I own one ridiculously overpriced Yeti thermos

Imagine being Caroline and never being able to have anything but anal sex? Every single time you went to bed with some stud they'd instantly pounce on your little anus licking and prodding it before lubing up and jamming it into your starfish. You'd constantly try to egg them into giving your snatch a try to no avail; every man's heard of your legendary butthole and wants a piece of it, for all they care you might as well have a fat cock resting under it and it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans to these anal-obsessed wierdos. Eventually your ass would begin to loosen from being rammed so hard so many times by thick cocks that you'd barely even have to push to release stool, and one day you realize to your horror that you've pinched a loaf right in public without even realizing it. You'd have to resort to wearing a buttplug everywhere you went just to keep errant turds from flying out your loose sphincter. People would start to notice how you walk funny, and seem to prefer one leg. Rumours start to spread about how your ass has been so worn out your whole rectum has prolapsed and droops down to your knees and you need an attendant to shove it all back in again before a performance. People say that you needed to be admitted to the hospital once after your rectal entrails can out in the middle of the night and almost strangled you in your sleep. People are beginning to interpret all the lyrics of your songs as metaphors for your anus-related grievances. People are counting down the days until you come of age and drop out of the idol scene to become a JAV star that specializes in rosebud scenes where horny fans of yours line up to take a nice whiff of precious Caroline's inside-out baked Alaska.

>>56549075
This

>>56549070
WTF YOU ARE STILL GOING, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

WADAFAK IS GOIN ON . PRINTERS ARE ON

>>56549085
Wasn't QQQ down like 40%?

>>56549034
Gold is 1% from a breakout and 4% from ATH. Government is printing tons of T Bills. Unemployment looks like shit.

>>56549105
>>56549070
sorry, wasn't meant to be directed to you. Anyways,
bonds>dividends

OH GOD IM GONNA PAUSE

>>56549082
I make it up on volume.

>>56549121
All extremely bullish

You guys have no idea how fucked things really are. Lol. This is not healthy market action. This is a sick market.

>>56549108
Not printers, it’s squeezing shorts and forcing them to cover and then squeezing the shorts of those who think we went up to fast

>>56549132
SUCK DEEZ NUTS

>This is a sick market.

>>56549132
>trust me I know

>>56549132
i will sell to help your cause if you post your positions with their P/L

>>56549132
this market so sick it does skateboard tricks and wears its cap backwards

>>56549144

>>56549132
Fuck it we ball.

>>56549132
doomer retards are seething
I guess this is really the start of the bull run

>>56549132
This market is beautiful and I love it and the good times just never end. It’s everything. Go visit Trump in jail you loser and the rest of us will enjoy this prosperity and where things just get better and better. I love.

>Are you OK Bobo
>Are you OK
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>Are you OK
>Are you OK Bobo
>Are you OK
>Are you OK Bobo
>Are you OK
>Are you OK Bobo
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>Are you OK
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>Are you OK
>Are you OK Bobo
>Are you OK

Google alredy printing me a 7% return in less than one week. Where is the retard that called an NFT shitcoin scam?

most doomer bobos are larping faggots that stumbled upon /biz/ and have no skin in the game, just pseudointellectual masturbation fantasy about some spectacular collapse that will somehow make the rest of society as miserable and poor as them
go ahead and search "collapse" on the archive if you want a taste of the utter stupidity of worthless manchild doomer poster

>>56549169
>Noooooo, you should have bought a 5% t-bills it literally RISK FREE something something cashgang.

>>56549151
Doomers seethe
Bulltards vanish
That's how it is. Where were you faggots last friday? Silent, only bobos here laughing their asses off.

NOOOOO if society doesn't collapse my gold plated lead bars will become worthless

>>56549169
>someanon called goog an NFT
...wat?

>>56549188
Actually pretty funny. But you’d have to be the retard to think the guys actively shilling against google before it rips up was retarded Bet he was lomg

>Put sell order in for NVDA this morning
>Keeps going up after it goes through

I could've made an extra $30

Do I go to In N out or Taco Bell or McDonalds

>>56549183
No i was posting my pink wojaks all the time SOXL was crashing. I even kneeled and said Funko pop anon with the stupid wrestler dude avatar was a better trader than me. You guys forget this is all in good fun. The more theatric /smg/ is the better but bobos clearly take themselves too seriously because they honestly bought into the whole "the best traders have been bears meme" so they seriously think themselves the best when they don't know anymore than anyone else does.

>>56549187
*tungsten

>>56549177
Didn't you see what Tim Apple said? The holidays are cancelled.

>>56549192
>bear posting when long
based

>>56549200
Whataburger
Make the trip if you need to.

>>56549208
>Oh no APPL is going to drag the whole market down
The absolute state of Bobos

>>56549113
No point in comparing ETFs over decades

>>56549213
I hear Whataburger has super mediocre burgers for the price. I'm not one of those Califags who thinks In N Out has the best tasting burgers, but we sure as hell got the best deals at In N Out. A double cheeseburger (double double) at In N Out was $2.80 when I was in high school in 2016

>>56549218
stay poor anon.

>>56549209
>bear posting
>based
Those two things don't go together. Even when ironically bear shitposing.

>>56549066

all in on roblox calls!

>>56549075
Wait, I thought the biggest joke in this general was the friends we made along the way?

>>56549188
It's the same dude that makes the dividend general.
Here's his full schizo article:
https://www.bhagwad.com/blog/2023/personal/financial-matters/dividends-are-not-irrelevant-when-a-stock-becomes-an-nft.html/

TIGR is gonna make or break a lot of people soon. no one expects the butterfly.

>>56549075
Who is the jew

>>56549221
>was $2.80 when I was in high school in 2016
You do know inflation affects everything, right grandpa?
Knowing Cali, it's probably $22 before tax; no meal deal.

>>56549205
Not sure. Bobos seem more crazy. Because the market is so exhausting. Mumus on the other hand so idiotic-ignorant. Both have crybabies (NVDA-Tech guy for Mumus)

>>56548811
Don't mention AQB, fuckers turned my 1k stack into 50 LMAO these stinky fish bags are gonna make me do some things so crazy Jan 6 will look like a joke

>>56549221
Yeah because that's all in n outs menu is so their overhead costs are fucking low since they only need to focus on burgers and fries. Whataburger on the other hand I can get a burger, chicken sandwich, teddies, breakfast menu, or apple pies if I want and if I'm a big enough fat ass all in one order too. It's the price you pay for having more to choose from but at least I can make my own combo like a vanilla shake and apple pie with whataburger you cheap motherfucker.

Yo guys, wtf, I'm not even looking at the market. You are still pumping.

My fuckin internet is too slow. I need 6 !!! hours to download Fortnite. Won't be able to play with my nephew today for the new season. Tomorrow then..

>>56549246
The one and only, the extraordinaire.
Honorable mention for Rocker, although we're still waiting on the next update vid.

Took a loss on my SQQQ. This pump has accouple weeks in it

>>56549247
>Knowing Cali, it's probably $22 before tax; no meal deal.
No, this is my point. Despite California being expensive, I N Out burgers are still very cheap, literally cheaper than McDonalds burgers (excluding the value menu McDouble).

In N Out burgers I think are just $3.45 right now I think
>>56549254
I hear Whataburger burgers are too thick and don't get a good maillard surface on the patties like In N Out thinner burgers do. That also plays into the cost probably, In N Out patties are not as thick as other places.

However, In N Out still mogs you for value because they give you double/triple patties while still all being under $6.

>>56549254
plus in and out is oversalted garbage with the worst fries and sauce on the planet. fuck anyone who likes in and out. get some taste, fags. even day old culver's is better than that shit.

>>56549236
This is some of the most retarded shit ive ever read. Like how do you even.... comparing your house to stock and stocks to NFT's.

>>56549253
>-92%
lol get on my level

>>56549139
Why did they make bobo a chud.

>>56549282
turn on your monitor

i own two thousand shares of SOXL

I fucking hate bulltards so much it’s unreal

WTF IS THIS SHIT I PANIC SOLD LAST WEEK GOD DAMMIT

WOWOWOWOW
THIS COULD BE IT
THE BIG ONE

>>56549286
Thats literally chudjak

>>56549295
when you have a lot of money you're kinda forced to be a bulltard with occasional cash stacks on the side. it's horrible

>>56549269
Say what you want but you can't get a honeynut chicken biscuit from in n out. They are like Crack and so filling.

DAL psycho here.
>AAAAAAAA

>>56549282
>>56549139
I thought this was Bostick?

Justify it.
Justify the partialism-tier market. You can't.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>56548130
Damn. Look at that line. Reminds me of my pungency for women at 18.

>>56549275
>Just patiently waiting for my bags to go up, Tubez. TWUMD

>>56549318
That looks pretty god tier to be honest, I'm sad some national chain like Popeyes doesn't have something like this. I always like when SOUTHANAS PUT THAT HONEY BUTTAH ALL OVAH DEM BISCEEEEEUTS OOH LAWWWWD HAVE MERCUHHH

>>56549288
Checked and based. Also when 72?

I am getting raped by my SHOP short this week

>>56549302
you fucking idiot.

>>56549298
Let that be a lesson newfag, when you think you need to panic sell, its a bottom signal and thats exactly where the market reverses

>>56549339
Dude the days at work at the office no matter how shitty my mornings are if I get one of those honey butter chicken biscuit with my office coffee makes the whole day bearable. I just can't have them too much because fuck is it fattening but it seriously is like morning crack.

looking through market history, there has actually never been a week like this one which is straight green with gaps up every day. bulls missed the rally and are causing it to overextend by chasing it up, especially since they missed the 'pause' which began at the top

i already sold yesterday wtf!!?!?

>>56549345
again, you fucking idiot.

>>56549361
thank you for your sacrifice

#blessed

>>56549337
>Starts making homemade mead one month ago
>Now looks like top panel
I am so bullish on Big Sugar.

>>56549298
Anon, it's buy every dip not sell every dip.

>>56549356
It seems they're only available for a limited time from Whataburger.

i sold
and also bought
this is the way

>>56549319
Very nice. Imagine making money with airlines. I kneel

>>56549288
What will you sell at?

I AM SHORTING THE NASDAQ ON THE CLOSE TODAY. NO WAY THIS RALLY GOES MUCH FURTHER.

>>56549345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjeHXzWYglg

>>56549382
Apparently i also didn't look at the pic closely enough. Still based

>tfw undeveloped markets randomly levy bespoke unwritten taxes on your trades

>don't hold leveraged ETFs overnight
Are people retarded? If you held SOXL overnight 2000 nights in a row you got rich. Also why would you not be holding it right now for 2000 more nights? You'll be rich. It's fucking easy.

>Oilers

>>56549387
It's already over for you

>>56549391
Okay but why does this go hard as fuck tho? Shit slaps.
Yeah yeah im a ~black nigger~

>>56549377
only the spicy ones, you fucking idiot.

STOP THE COUNT

THREADLY REMINDER seasonality is in effect and the market will continue to go up until January at the earliest. Also, SPY has been down 3 months in a row. 4 months in a row down has only happened a couple of times in history therefore the odds are very high this will be a bullish month. Trade accordingly

>>56549370
>>56549337
Holy shit because his mead is literally rotting sugar and probably isn't even getting him drunk so he unironically probably has cut back on his drinking but holy fuck his diet is so disgusting and bad. He literally ate a bug infested burrito. You can literally see the bugs crawling in and out on it because he just takes old shit he has bakes it and leaves the burrito out for a day before eating it. This dudes immune system is fucking insane and probably is on tier of that of a third world pajeet.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F0d8bcvByXw&pp=ygUfY29icmEgZWF0cyBidWcgaW5mZXN0ZWQgYnVycml0bw%3D%3D

>>56549377
You definitely ain't from Texas anon...

The spicy one is a limited edition thing but the honey butter chicken sandwich is around all the time.

>>56549406
It's bussin no cap.

>>56549412
wrong seasonality, besides seasonality can be broken either way like what happened last month

>>56549413
i hope he marries goocheese in 2024

>>56549387
See
>>56549412

>>56549413
why the fuck did I watch this?

>>56549397
>tfw gains gnomes come at night and steal my leveraged etf gains
>even though line go up, account balance mysteriously shrinks
>leave my unleveraged gains, apparently they are stinky
i bet its the same fuckers stealing my socks and also lifting gains, its a fucking conspiracy
some call Alex Jones right fucking now

>>56549420
Picking individual stocks like palantir to avoid seasonality bullshit and broader market swings. You actually can’t have them

>>56549426

>>56549431
Because it's Cobs and his life is a never ending train wreck but unlike most internet lolcows he just keeps to himself living like a boglin in his own swamp of an existence. He even shits on other lolcows from time to time like Chris Chan when he fucked his own mother. So in some regard with his life he is winning.

>>56549464
Wasting time is not a wise choice.

>>56549437
imagine thinking you pay interest on leveraged etfs directly out of your account. Stop trading immediately. Also, any interest due to leverage in the ETF is irrelevant when seen how much it goes up regardless of them.

when do we cover bros?
This has been a violently green week.

Bidenomics folks, that's all. Stupid boboid loser CHUDS.

>>56549478
You know what to do

>>56549478
Learn from the best.

>>56549397
There are posters here who believe because they lack the emotional wherewithal to hold through a large drawdown everyone else must be a slave to their emotions also. There are other anons who hate to see people make large sums of money. There are anons here who missed out and now are so bitter they refuse to just get in now and they don't want to see anybody else get in either, kind of a misery loves company dynamic

>>56549478
>Covering because it's violently green
Uh isn't that going to feedback loop your ass?

>>56549484
>There are posters here who believe because they lack the emotional wherewithal to hold through a large drawdown everyone else must be a slave to their emotions also. There are other anons who hate to see people make large sums of money. There are anons here who missed out and now are so bitter they refuse to just get in now and they don't want to see anybody else get in either, kind of a misery loves company dynamic
Well that makes sense.

>>56549479
>retards here want the entire economy crash just to put an orange retard in office again

If the job market is shit and unemployment rises but stocks go up, doesn't that mean the rich get richer and the poor stay poor?

Merely the appetizer. Main course still cookin

>>56549464
I didnt think azmongold could be topped, but that was just disgusting

>>56549510
That happens no matter with fiat currency you dumb fuck. That's why we are all here trying to get rich.

FYI: This is completely healthy
I would know
I'm a doctor

>>56549510
Yes, stocks are up because unemployment is up which means j pows slowing of the economy is working

>>56549474
>Wasting time is not a wise choice
Brother what do you think we're all doing here

>>56549480
>>56549483
>>56549485
I mean I hedged at an okay time last time and mitigated a lot of loses.

Imagine looking at this chart and saying
>yeah but 1% of my principle balance went to interest
People that don't sit in triple leveraged ETFs for years on end are plebs. Trained by jews how to not make money, and only provide money to them.

is it time yet?

>>56549077
roblox or freshpet

Ok, so this indeed seems to be a retard-strength front running of a (somehow) anticipated emergency policy change by the FED.

>>56549536
there are a million ways to draw meme lines, someone else would draw a bull pendent and say it is time to go long.

I make $200k/y living in rural NC. Started making that money this year. At my current income & rate of investment, I should have over $20 million in retirement.

>>56549066
a whole lot of nothing

>>56549536
>bullish engulfing candle
yeah, time to break out of that flag

>>56549510
>doesn't that mean the rich get richer and the poor stay poor?
That was always the outcome regardless of what the market does. Did 2020 teach people nothing?

where were you when the Korn Ferry set sail? KFY staying consolidated after a 2+% gain is promising even after layoffs were announced.

>>56549547
Me and that glowie guy tried telling you. The F.E.D is going to emergency cut rates because of (insert reason), before the election.

>>56549553
You just have to make 200/k y for the next 30 years anon. good luck.

>>56549536
Literally zoom out on the chart and pick any time that's similar to now and tell me if we should be bullish or bearish you dumb fuck.

>>56549525
You can see that the VIX is basing, options paypiggies have been rinsed too early before november opex and we need another spike in premium next week to rinse paypiggies all over again with charm and theta
basically we're obviously overbought

>>56549536
multiple year long cup & handle is a meme line? as opposed to what, lottery ticket options?

>>56549563
The only thing is, when everybody is sure of it...

>>56549553
kick ass, BLESSED
BOIL KANG is near (You) too.

black americans just moved in next door, they're already revving the engines of their bikes. what does that mean financially speaking?

>>56549559
>That was always the outcome regardless of what the market does. Did 2020 teach people nothing?
Pretty much true. In the end, the market is a hedge against inflation. Just to get back to a baseline of wealth, highs will have to at least double. Wages will never follow suit tho. The gap will continue to grow. You will own nothing and be happy. Unless you hold onto securities as they roll that shit out.

>>56549563
That would be one of the worst things they could do. We would have a reverse crash. The FED can just hold rates and everything can be fine.

>>56549553
The bigger question is what 20 million will be worth.

>>56549510
Money printing is generally good for rich people because they are always sitting closer to the printer than the average person.

>>56549581
>what does that mean financially speaking?
means you should start saving so you can move out of there asap

>>56549586
They could also hold rates, and stop QT

>>56549553
Buy me a wand from this gothic bad boy who smells good with your big stack of money

>>56549558
that's not bullish engulfing

>>56549581
that you need to sell your house

>>56549484
You are basing that assumption on "drawdown" instead of "permanent impairment of real purchasing power"

>>56549581
Property values in your neighborhood are already down 20%.

>>56549506
>long term rates at decades highs
>inflation still raging at near 4%
>job market softening
JPow has said he wants sustained tight financial conditions. Not tight financial conditions that will just revert the instant he pivoots. Expect the unemployment to rise, expect long term rates to increase, expect the dollar to rise, expect the market to fall. The crash is coming. If nothing else, because JPow wills it

>>56549596
The same as 10 mil today. But Prbly closer to 5 mil

>>56549586
Fed cant tighten because of the banks, so they're just sitting and waiting.

>>56549618
Jpow said we were under is potential growth projections and remaining under that he sees no reason to hike atm. They could hike 100 more times but he said they don’t know. Right now it looook good tho. Smell gooood too. He huffs his own farts, like a gentleman

>>56549618
Treasury won't monetize long term at these rates and has been kicking the can down later in the expectation of a pivot, Powell so far has pretty much told the treasury to fuck off.

>>56549618
well thats the crux of the issue, the market doesn't believe powell and thinks he'll fuck it up just like the last several times

>>56549626
>recap banks with another term facility
>buy mortgage bonds
>keep raising rates

This is what is going to happen

>>56549618
but does he have the balls to do it?
I mean, given how much of a frenzy this Christmas season is going to be (it's gonna be insane), he might as well hike again.
So far, the consoomer has proven itself to be invincible.

>>56549620
>But Prbly closer to 5 mil
So 4% inflation?

>>56549647
Most consumer surveys show a decrease in overall spending this holiday season

>>56549642
Historically the fed always bails out the market, that probably still is the base case because they're a political entity no matter how much they insist on being data driven. Fed policy is only independent when times are good and nobody is breathing down their neck.

>>56549647
Today small cap retail stocks are saying that he doesn't have the guts to hike before christmas

I don't get why you doomers give this guy so much shit. He has been doing his part well and the economy is in a good place. Trust the plan.

>>56549647
>given how much of a frenzy this Christmas season is going to be (it's gonna be insane)
What makes you say that?

>>56549670
When did he plan on retiring and true inflation I think tracks with assets. So really inflation is closer to 5-6% imo. 2000-2020 they say it was 2% but they just artificially kept crude down and other commodities and changed metrics like they are doing now. Assets don’t run up because they become more valuable really, it’s just the govt prints more dollars. That’s literally the game. Tqqq is like saying I wanna 3x the money printers because ya know, they’re prbly gonna print. They’ve done this before. Paid for wars with inflated dollars. It’s happening again. God bless America. Sorry people have to die. That’s the bummer.

>>56549670
Equities hedge against inflation though so I don’t think you can directly discount inflation from the calculation. You own the companies that provide goods/services with inflated prices.

>>56549632
>JPow said
I listened very carefully to what he said Wednesday. He mentioned sustained tight financial conditions. In the next breath he defined that phrase and in part said it includes "lower equity prices". Connect the dots and he wants to see sustained lower equity prices. If everything moves perfectly from this point forward and inflation continues to fall to the 2% range between now and the end of 2024 then he won't feel it necessary to push equities down. However if that drop in inflation is interrupted in any significant way he absolutely will drop the hammer down. Lower long term rates, a softening dollar, tighter labor markets, equities shooting to the moon are the 4 things that will prompt him into action. Be hopeful that equities crab or increase very slowly between now and the next year or so. If not then I hope you will be ready

>>56549693
Thinking jpow is as schizo as you is your downfall. He said shit looks better than he anticipated growth wise. He’s skeptical but he plays it by the numbers and right now we keep on choo chooing

>>56549642
>the market doesn't believe powell
this has happened for more than half a year just recently.
check the chart of the 10y yield and take a look at the time frame from October 2022 to August 2023.
there was zero actual tangible indication that the FED is going to change course, however, pure anticipation euphoria had the market willingly spend trillions to keep the 10y yield in a tight range with an upward drift.
this can happen again, like right now. maybe it's already happening.

>>56549618
>long term rates at decades highs
still not all that high relatively. More of a return to normal from insanely low rates
>inflation still raging at near 4%
but trending down
>job market softening
which is the main point of raising rates.
>Not tight financial conditions that will just revert the instant he pivoots
he can't do anything about that. The markets are too financialized to not go into a frenzy when he begins lowering.

>Expect the unemployment to rise, expect long term rates to increase, expect the dollar to rise, expect the market to fall.
unemployment will likely not rise too high. immigration is low and the boomers are aging out. The markets are resilient, and the no one wants miss out gains from the M7 by buying bonds.

>>56549686
He's one of the better chairs, but being compared to Bernanke, Yellen, and Greenspan is pretty much cheating considering how terrible they all were.

>>56549705
>immigration is low
SHORT EVERYTHING THIS POSTER HAS TOUCHED

>Unemployment up
>Payrolls down
>Earnings down
Recessions are le bullish!

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>>56549682
pffffffft has any of this ever materialized?
>>56549684
you're nooticing this?
>>56549687
dude, we're speaking about normies and NPCs here.
hordes of low iq, low intellect brainlets with no inner monologue.
those people will unironically (find a way to) spend more when things around them worsen just for the feel good factor,
and since everything costs more and you kind of can't buy half a christmas tree, only one side of a pair of socks or half an iphone... it means thanks to the increased cost of every unit it's going to be insane because volume could even decrease a little, however, increased prices will make it look like more was spent than ever...

>>56549710
Honestly compared to those ass holes he is a saint. Those guys were actively making shit worse while our government was going full retard mode with the markets and spending. Considering how shit things were when he got the position we have managed to stay very comfy with all the shit storms happening and things are slowly improving.

>>56549702
>He said shit looks better than he anticipated growth wise.
Very indicative of a policy change (end of QT, return to QE, rate cuts), indeed.
Are we in upside down clown world?

>>56549691
>equities hedge against inflation though
I tend to agree, although it's not entirely true. When real rates are negative, companies get free leverage to outperform.
Demographics also play a factor. Rising population is bullish because most people work at established companies, and do business/purchase from them as well. Aging population means more spending on goods and less saving, pressuring lower asset multiples.

With TIPs at 2% real yield, and longer duration treasuries closer to 4-5%, inflation expectations are currently only around 2.5%. If we actually see an average of 4% inflation over the coming decades, the long term pain for bond holders is just beginning.
Luckily this also likely means that the borrowing cost for companies, while theoretically a "real" expense, may actually provide another tailwind - as long as they don't choose floating rate debt.

One thing that can be said with near-certainty is that stocks will continue outperforming bonds. Unless you have some short term fixed-spending needs, stocks continue to be the only real game in town.

>>56549705
>still not all that high relatively
That's dramatically less important than a 40+ year regime of falling rates which allow for perpetual refinancing. The fact that rates have gone up at all make refinancing impossible, even when they paused in 2019 at 2.5% it caused significant problems that were conveniently covered up by a crisis
disagree on unemployment but bulls like you will claim soft landing even at 10% because its "not that bad"

>>56549705
>>job market softening
>which is the main point of raising rates.
what do you mean?
please elaborate.

>>56549740
Or he could just keep things as they are and let them continue to improve. He doesn't have to do shit right now. Like why do you guys think he is in a situation where he is forced to change course immediately or any time soon?

>>56549702
>he plays it by the numbers
Precisely so. The numbers have to continue perfectly in line with lowering inflation from here on out for equities to keep rising. If anything upsets the apple cart the hammer drops. What has better odds, that multiple things play out perfectly or one thing goes catastrophically wrong or some new black swan comes out of the wood work forcing JPow's hand? There's also the fact that consistently rising equities signals looser financial conditions. This is the opposite of what JPow wants and he explicitly said precisely that. What JPow wants and what mumus want are at odds. Who do you think will win?

I’ve got a few shares of BA
DCA is $199
Should I sell now at a minor loss?

>>56549740
He thought potential growth should be closer to 4-6 so if we get up there then rate hikes out the ass. Things are going as smoothly as they could. Life is returning to normal. The birds are chirping. Bombs are going off in the Middle East. Can’t you feel it anon? The return to the status quo

>>56549104
Why bro?
Why?

>>56549383
when SOX falls below the 200 SMA

>>56549754
You are being seriously stupid with the word "perfectly" as if we are on some tight rope. The general trend is for things to improve. Nothing is happening that is suddenly going to reverse trends. You can say Black swan all you want but it's no where near as likely as you think.

>>>56549702
>>He said shit looks better than he anticipated growth wise.
>Very indicative of a policy change (end of QT, return to QE, rate cuts), indeed.
>Are we in upside down clown world?
JPow said Wednesday that one of the biggest risks with any pivot including slowing QT or cutting interest rates is that financial conditions will immediately revert such that inflation comes roaring back. He's saying that he's worried that the economy is just reacting to what he's doing and that's not what he wants. He said he wants sustained tightness. Higher long term rates, higher unemployment, lower inflation, and lower equity prices. There is no way on God's green earth that he restarts QE or lowers interest rates anytime in the next 12-18 months. No possible way based on what he's saying. If he does he loses the inflation fight and loses all credibility. NOT GONNA HAPPEN

>>56549008
>cherny
good choice

>>56549221
Whataburger rocks actually. Almost as good as Culvers.

>>56549771
first cut is priced in for June '24
do with this knowledge what you will

>>56549771
All that shit is transitory and needs to happen to come out of this. Powell is going to keep doing his job.

>>56549705
>>inflation still raging at near 4%
>but trending down
JPow made a good point about that on Wednesday. Inflation fell very quickly from 9% but the lower it falls the slower it falls. Inflation will be above the 2% target for quite a while. The entire time it is above that target it will affect the economy negatively

>>56549752
>Like why do you guys think he is in a situation where he is forced to change course immediately or any time soon?
I don't think that the FED will change policy before the 2030s.
However, the markets behave as if it's going to happen
>any day now
but
>two more weeks
tops.
Over half of a 92 day long, -11% retracement period in the SPX had been CUT IN HALF within 7 days.
On basically nothing more than anticipation of a immediate emergency FED policy change with ZERO tangible indication of it actually occurring.

>>56549771
Bruh the market is trading 0dte. He said no rate hikes for now. He said at beginning of year he wouldn’t cut thru 2023. No one who’s intelligent thinks he’s going to cut. Business loan interest rates are over 9%. Some people might still be operating on cheaper credit or flush with cash. Still waiting to see how his policy affect the market. But right now HE SAID IT LOOKS FINE AND NO NEED TO HIKE YOU DENSE MUTHERFUCKER


AND BY THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN GAPPING UP. HOW FUCKING RETARDED ARE YOU TO SAY HE WAS BEARISH AND THE MARKET IS SAYING THE EXACT OPPOSITE. FUCKING CHRIST YOU CHUD

the unhinged posters are getting louder. that is usually an important inflection point for the market

Are we going through this again?

>>56549783
>first cut is priced in for June '24
>do with this knowledge what you will

>>56549774
Thank you.

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>>56549822
new

>>56549807
which way

>>56549768
We are walking a tight rope though. The loosening of financial conditions necessary for equities to continue to rise are at odds with the tightening of financial conditions necessary for JPow to keep his finger off the fuck your calls button. That's the tightrope and we're absolutely on it. It can't be both ways
>>>56549771
>first cut is priced in for June '24
>do with this knowledge what you will
Bondtards will continue to be btfo'd just like they have been for the last couple of years
>>56549798
Dude, the other poster I responded to mentioned the bond market is already pricing in a cut for June. The market is hearing one thing from JPow and acting like they are hearing something else. He says "sustained tight financial conditions" and they hear "pivoot" and "rate cuts". NO. NO no no. He wants to see tighter. Things are not tight when equities are rising. Expect to lose money

>>56549534
I look at that chart and I unironically see the chances of it going to 50+ are higher than the chances of it pulling another 2022

>>56549060
God damn

>>56548707
Had a Dec iron condor in SPY at 40% Profit, but it went to 20% and spooked me. Closed it out but not sure what to do next

>>56550267
I trade a system that wins more than it loses so I either take profit at 50% or stop out at -50%. It's a 1:1 risk/reward so the high percentage wins make it profitable in the long run. I'd suggest systematizing your trades in a way that you don't have to question whether it's time to cover or not. You just follow the system and make money

>>56550288
Thanks, that's great advice. Been getting better at taking the emotion out of trading, but being time-crunched at a very unpredictable job makes it hard to let trades play out without worry. I'll have to get better, thanks anon.