/biz/ - Business & Finance

It’s a new thread and no one knows who I am

this is the best /smg/ ever

How do I invest in Guyana going from 0 oil production to becoming the 6th or 7th largest producer in the next 4 years with Exxon and Chevron sending thousands of crews to build offshore oil rigs as fast as possible?

>>56537097
If you are a raging faggot in every thread then does it matter?

Welcome to the first day of the rest of your life. Dividend investing general /dig/
>>56519569
>>56519569

>>56537097
you're not cool enough to be an MTF, I know that much.

im going to retain my semen and buy the dip
ama

>>56537111
Buy ticker BBBBBBYQ

I warned you over the weekend that we would bounce, that we were very far below average true range across many, many sectors plus the indices themselves
I warned you not to short the bottom - to in fact sell SPY puts when we were below the ATR
We are now back above the 20EMA, between the 20EMA and the upper ATR
If you are bearish, this is when you would be taking profits on your dip buying / put selling, and be starting to DCA/build your short position
Mumu is retarded and chases both ways
We hit the bottom, mumu buys puts
We hit this top, mumu buys calls
Stop doing this. Lol.
Literally just add keltner channels to your chart and never make a retarded trade shorting the bottom or longing the top ever again
chart hasn't updated for the $426 today, but it is above the 20 EMA
this is when the rally starts to exhaust - today going into tomorrow

I literally don't get it
Fedman didn't say a single good thing
I guess people are retardbuying thinking that this pause means fedman won't hike anymore
But just because he doesn't hike does not mean rates won't stay high for longer. He literally said a rate cut is not even on the table now.
I don't get it anymore we're just pumping to heaven and beyond for no reason whatsoever

>he didn't buy any UNG in the dip this morning
>he's a
>NO
>NATGAS
>NIGGER

>>56537134
we were oversold, it's that simple
>>56537128
this is what market looked like going into this previous weekend
more important than the Fed was the Treasury backing off of their long end issuance, allowing yields to cool from 5% to 4.6%

explain how and why this fucking stock movement they erased 25% of 5 month losses in two days

>bears can't believe the market can't go down forever when it's shoveled full of everyone's heslthcare, retirement and fun money

>>56537111
Now, this might be a little out there, but it seems to me that you should buy Exxon and Chevron.

>>56537114
You’re right, because my immediate reaction to >>56537123 is to hope that he begins jerking off immediately

>verification not required

Despite releasing the greatest shoe all year - Crocs is taking a major hit after reporting weak guidance.

EPS: $3.25 vs $3.10 est.
Rev: $1.05B vs $1.03B est.

Q4 Rev Guidance: $903M - $938M vs $1.02B est.

$CROX -13.5% in pre-market.

AHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH

>>56537134
Technical bounce

>>56537134
We're at the same S&P level as June 21. People are sick of this gigacrab shit and want gains.

>>56537141
technical analysis works until it doesn't. The more likely explanation is algos runing amok, heeming dumb money on the way up and down and it no longer follows any logic or reason.

>>56537116
Does a dividend portfolio outperform SPY?

I longed TSLA at the bottom I'm making so much money today

>>56537134
short term bullish
long term bearish

Should I pay off my mortgage? It would save me like 200k in interest, but I'll be stsrt8ng over with not a great emergency fund

>>56537159
it's basically gambling with pronounced hot and cold streaks.

Give me a good stock tip

>>56537141
>oversold

The midwittery. If someone gets set on fire are they overhot? Then youdouse them with waterand they're overwet? When someoneupsets are you oversad?

>>56537159
>t. unprofitable noob trader who doesn't understand average true range, RSI, moving averages, MACD
have you ever noticed it's always the unprofitable traders in /smg/ who decry technical analysis?
Lol.
>IT'S JUST LINES!!! TA DOESN'T WORK!!!
Lol.
I have called every single top, and bottom, since July, sometimes within 5 minutes, sometimes within 24 hours
I have only tried to help you
You just never, ever listen

>>56537144
The honorable Jerome Powell declared a soft landing, silly man

*BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG

>>56537134
It's been priced in

>>56537172
Paying interest is setting money on fire to please the jew

>>56537178
Genuine retard detected
Brother - if an index (not a single stock) an index, hits 30 RSI, and is massively below the ATR, 9 times out of 10, the market is going to bounce
and marked in the pictures, if you could actually read and weren't retarded, you would note that it says "Low but can go lower"
You should start listening, maybe you would become profitable

Hold or sell boys?

>>56537172
Is inflation higher than your interest rate?

It's begun.

>>56537197
in my opinion, anybody long here should now be scaling out of long positions, taking profits, and now be scaling into short positions
that doesn't mean
>SELL EVERYTHING
>SHORT EVERYTHING
>NOW
this means if it makes sense to, take profits on your winning long positions, DCA/scale out
then start scaling into short positions
if you are just now "capitulating" and going long, you are the exit liquidity for all the bears who bought the dip, intending to short the rally again

>>56537172
What's the rate on the mortgage?

>>56537180
he did not you gaslighting PPT shill

>>56537184
What's been priced in? If nonhike was priced in, we wouldn't have pumped. Wtf do you even mean?

>>56537181
Impressive. Very nice.

>>56537160
Yes, usually that is the case. Sure in the past 10 year+ bull market it’s right below but it far outperforms in turbulent markets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L4YrGaR8E4

Do I buy my short now? Or too obvious?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=y0X0ZYbnHxA&pp=ygUxYWlycGxhbmUgbm8gdGhhdCdzIGp1c3Qgd2hhdCB0aGV5J2xsIGJlIGV4cGVjdGluZw%3D%3D

the big melting upwards is here at last

>>56537192
>weighted
7 stocks that no person needs. Lets call it an etf

>>56537224
Why is my link so ugly but yours so okay?
>>56537222

wtf happened here? Buyout announced or something?

>>56537236
I'M RICH

Do doomers here actually think the US debt is a problem?

when we give back half the gains today,
and are red tomorrow, and then red next week
Mumu will go
>What?? I thought we were back!!
>You said we were back!!
>I went all in long positions!!
>I'm ruined!!!
I am telling you now mumu, not everybody here is retarded drinking the rally kool aid
We are selling our (technically oversold) dip buying longs and using the profits to build short positions
You should be doing the same - but you won't - you chase any rally, short any pullback

Happy i took the lotto.

>>56537242
Yeah, yeah, yeah can't wait to see what you ass hats are posting a week from now.

>>56537239
Lots of people latch onto an idea they think is an advantage.

>>56537187
The jew is doing you a favor selling you an advance on your own future time at a small premium. Many don't understand.

>>56537213
keep your head in the sand then waiting for le epic crash

>>56537199
brainlet here
since we can assume (hope) inflation is short term, at least relative to the full mortgage term, is this really relevant?
doesn't inflating your debt away only really work if your pay is keeping up with inflation as well?
just confirming that it's not an important metric by itself- depends on these other things

>>56537250
Lot of them are twitter/pol (you) farmers too i think. they like the idea of generating outrage and participating in it.

>>56537273
Admittedly, I am also out here for the >>>(you)s. What's life without a little fun?

>>56537242
Why would bulls be financially ruined if the market dips again? Then they'd just buy the dip as always. If you're a bull, all you need to do is buy and hold. You will eventually always end up winning. Bobo is the one who needs to time the market in order to make a profit. If you make the wrong call and you are short when the market pumps, you are left behind and your shorts will never recover

>>56537268
>doesn't inflating your debt away only really work if your pay is keeping up with inflation as well?
yes and it doesnt really mean much to invidivuals as it does the state who has tax revenue. but if you took out a loan at 0.25% and are now making more off it on anything including house equity then you are inflating it away really.

>>56537221
You're telling me that a dividend portfolio outperforms SPY long term? Gonna need some proof anon.

BOBOID ARE YOU OK ARE YOU OK BOBOID? This is the start of the S&P run to ATH, the 10y yield will continue dumping.

the market NEEDS to have its covid crash finally we've been waiting for 3.5 years but the hebrews north of richmond keep printing money to scam us

>>56537280
>if the market dips again
>all you need to do is buy and hold

>it dips further
>in 2-3 years back up
>opportunity cost
>in case of leveraged ETF decay
>in case of margin overnightfees

>>56537287
Here’s one of my holdings since inception outperforming spy. There’s a ton of examples like this. I’m sorry you didn’t know that

>>56537311
NEEDS
that's a bunch of baloney

>everyone expects the fed to pause
>fed pauses
>stocks go full retard rally
STOP THE COUNT

Why is it going down?

>>56537311
>the market NEEDS to have its covid crash
Uhh so what was that crash after covid?

>>56537324
He fears the equity risk on high yield dividend stocks, and doesn't understand compounding interest. Some can't be saved.

>>56537239
>>56537250
They're overconcerned

>>56537224
Bears don't even know how to copy paste correctly

>>56537085
Should I get out of my i-bonds in January? I'll have made $704 over 15 months, that's decent enough for fixed income. I'm tempted to just keep holding. new rate is 3.97%. Since I Have to take a 3 month interest penalty when I sell, optimal time to sell is in January for me. But they are state tax exempt, and seems a bit silly to go through the hassle of selling them to drop into something that's effectively only slightly worse than the 5% HYSAs I'm seeing around (and I struggle to trust anyways)

>6 years of saving money/investing and living frugally
>€30k

that wasn't worth it at all

>>56537322
the S&P 500 on average has a 10-15% yield per year. Obviously if it had multiple 20-30% years in a row, there have to be the occasional red years or crab years to even things out. The market still always goes from ATH to ATH so bobo is eventually always going to get heemed and left in the dirt if he doesn't take profits and closes his shorts at the right time.

>>56537345
it wasn't a fucking crash they just printed trillions of dollars of money and bailed the boomers who overinvested into tech mania out with FAKE MONEY

>>56537351
Fuck it we ball.

>>56537360
I mean would you rather have 0?

>>56537336
nobody really believes we aren't getting rate hikes in 2023 somewhere. If core wasn't running above 4% it might be different but probably lots of individuals weighing on Powell to stop the hikes so biden can say he saved Christmas one more year

>>56537371
My man, I'mma let you in on a little secret: it's all fake and gay.

>>56537360
Lol iktf.
I've been at 500k for the past like decade. Shits wild I don't get it.
The spookiest part? In the next thread I'll be giving you financial advice, and you won't know it's me.

>>56537378
the point is that everyone knew powell was pausing, so why the fuck is dogshitco rallying double digits today?

>>56537215

This thread is a great microcosm for why the market has crabbed so viciously the past two years.

>>56537324
>Here’s one of my holdings since inception outperforming spy
Of course any one stock can outperform. Now post your actual portfolio. And we can compare that to SPY.

>Baron grew up in a Jewish family[4] in Asbury Park, New Jersey, one of two children of Morton Baron, an engineer, and his wife Marian.[5] Baron invested $1,000, saved from shoveling snow, waiting tables, working as a life guard, and selling ice cream, and turned it into $4,000 by investing in stocks, prompting cohorts to call him "Count", a nickname which still sticks.[5] He studied chemistry at Bucknell University and attended George Washington University Law School at night on scholarship.[citation needed] His first job out of school was with the United States Patent Office.

Buy tesla now or be left behind.

Should I buy into tech or medicine? I feel like it's time to buy ABBV or some such. MRNA computer is tempting as heck today too.

>>56537390
honestly im not awake i haven't even checked the charts and i just assumed you were shitposting about stocks dumping. I love clown market lol

>>56537394
>TFW no QT financial reporter GF

>>56537394
She is such a spanking. Fucking bullish on dick

Back from my 2 day ban to say

FUCK BEARS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Holy SHIT could you dumb motherfuckers be more wrong? Will you now admit that your doomer bullshit was retarded or will you once again move the goalposts?

LMFAO FUCK YOU

>>56537390
Bro you are an idiot, just stop.

>>56537373
honestly yes
My investments are getting shreked by inflation and I would've spent it on fun things like partying and traveling with friends or dating girls, basically to fund a normal social lifestyle when I was still young. Now I have 30k that doesn't really buy anything. no house, no mid-tier car, no apartment.

>>56537409
Fuck you

And just like that, TLT will never be below $85/share, again.
Really hoping you anons bought TMF...

>>56537396
Sorry newfag. Any post asking for a portfolio pic must first post theirs. Sorry but those are the rules

>factory orders

>>56537432
You don't outperform SPY and you're shilling a garbage general which doesn't generate any alpha. I'm guessing you're 5 figures too. That sucks.

>>56537416
Holy shit, bobo was right after all. After being up 214% for the year, Meta just went down 0.8% today. How could this happen? Bull bros, we lost.

Fuck Jews. Meta just pumped 5% in 10 minutes on open, then drops below yesterdays close? I want the SEC to regulate traders with Jewish ancestry

The market is up 1%, if I judged solely from comments in here I would have guessed it was up 10. Top signal.

>>56537415
Yeah but at least you learned an important life skill and made real friends on /smg/ instead of fake ones and honestly the best vacations are in out heads. I'm always the fucking protagonist in my life even when I'm in jail.

>>56537415
I would rather have the abstract hell of a solid net worth that allows me to not live paycheck to paycheck and not demand too much sacrifice than the well defined hell of paycheck to paycheck and constant cortisol brain like fucking scared animal. I've lived like that and it's awful.

more unemployment claims and people earning less. haven't you heard? that's clearly bullish for equities

>>56537311
There was a huge crash in 2020, did you seriously fucking forget about that?

>>56537453
You are an insufferable faggot aren’t you?

so again all action happens in the post market and by the time i'm actually able to buy shit it already gapped up and went into crab mode

>>56537322
>it dips further
Keep DCAing
>opportunity cost
That's a real thing (but most people don't consider it)
>in case of leveraged ETF decay
Boomer investors aren't in LETFs
>in case of margin overnightfees
Boomer investors aren't using margin, just DCAing.
>>56537324
One investment doth not make a portfolio.
>>56537348
The S&P has compounding interest as well, if you look at gains based on cost, rather than vs the previous month or year. But returns are all that matter. Returns on cost ( whether they be yields, or capital gains) are just feel good numbers.

I gotta feeling lot of bulls are about to be trapped

>>56537500
Yup.
They never learn.

>muh tech
How many of you tunnel vision niggers bought the ALL dip around ~$105 weeks ago and are now sitting at almost $140 on an almost double per share earnings report this morning?

>>56537450
>he still didn’t post his port
Sad

>>56537500
>>56537504
Please. I said no more hope.

>>56537489
Should have bought yesterday. When will you fags learn to buy on red days and sell on green.

Should I sell NVDA now or wait for another 1% boost?

>>56537517
Diamond hands

i'm going to make money today

who else sold PLTR at 20% up today>

>>56537517
I wouldn't sell it for anything less than $600.

>>56537370
Yeah, in the last 14 years, because of low interest rates.

>>56537514
>$86 cost
Even when you're unheeming you're still very heemed. Will you be taking the consolation prize, or letting the casino close your bets?

>>56537524
I'm rooting for you, yui-anon

>>56537471
huge crash, from 324 to 250? that's barely 20% and it recovered in a month after the hebrews started making up fake money like nothing happened and SPY mooned 100% in 6 months.

they're destroying the american markets by inflating a fake bubble since 2008

>>56537549
>since 2008
OK I guess you are just a retard

B-but it was supposed to be a crash :(

>everything overinflated

What the FUCK do I buy?

>>56537567
you know what they say, every rally in a bear market is another chance to load up cheap puts

>>56537549
This anon gets it

>>56537573
UVXY

>>56537577
Keep coping faggot bear and get out of my way. Ill sell you all the puts you want

>>56537573
shoulda bought Wheat and Cattle spreads

>>56537471
it's never enough for bears. they will be on the sidelines forever. forever with no gains, or gf.

>>56537585
I know you will. You did it too right before the last big dip. Very dependable, like a good cow for milking.

Is KO going out of business?

>>56537573
Breh you were supposed to buy like a madman in September.

>>56537573
You missed the generational bottom. Might be a small dip tomorrow and a chance to get back in, but the ship has already sailed. No risk, no reward. See you in 10 years

>>56537605
I did and I doubled my account. But I took profits and now I’m bored.

>>56537620
>But I took profits
Based, but also cringe.

>>56537573
>not just buying NATGAS low and selling NATGAS high over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

>>56537627
I think a lot of anons are still boil baggies to this day

Uranium kings. CCJ wants and deserves $50

>>56537583
What you ass hats think the markets should just overall crash 50%? Why and when would it ever fucking do that? It's all fake and gay and has been for over a 100 years you dumb fucks.

>TMO
>ABBV
>NOVO
Why shouldn't I buy into the immensely profitable medical sector?

OH YEAH BABY

MY CALLS ARE PRINTING CASH MONEY

I'm up $13,000 this week, lets fucking GOOOOOOOOO

>>56537623
KEK!
I am sure that Jack's ghost finds you to be an excellent avatar for him here among the living.

I liquidated my portfolio yesterday on the advice of bears and re-entered today on the advice of bulls
am i going to make it

>>56537549
That's a 23% crash, and yes 23% is fucking massive. They had to stop trading multiple times in a single fucking day, several days in a row. Is that not enough of a fucking crash for your dumbass?
>B-but it recovered!
Yeah it recovered after crashing nearly 23% you fucking retard.

>>56537471
yeah... it lasted like 39 days

>>56537635
Not cutting losses and repositioning is a mind boggler.

>>56537654
You are a dipshit as well

>>56537658
Unfortunately, 10 years of QE taught most current "investors" (as you can see ITT) that HODL is the only way.

bear bros...my nuts are getting squeezed

>>56537656
>It doesn't count because it recovered
Moving the goalpost, just sad.

>>56537661
No argument, just name-calling.

>>56537667
I try to close my positions out before FOMC. Jpow is almost always dovish. The fear comes later when the market again realizes everything isn't peaches and cream.

>>56537654
23% is fucking nothing when it moons 100% after
we could crash 23% tomorrow and we would still be above pre-covid "crash" which was only 3.5 years ago

>>56537651
Yes but only if you went into VZ

>>56537573
REITS and any other dividend stock.

>REJECTED: The account is not approved for this level of trading

>>56537677
>A crash is only a crash if it lasts for the indeterminate amount of time that I want it to.
A 23% crash is still a 23% crash you retard.

>>56537677
Yeah no fucking shit that's how things progress. A 100% during one era can be 10% in the long run. You dumb faggots never zoom out of your charts to see the bigger picture.

>>56537605
It's over

b-but you...I thought you were...

>>56537671
I call them how I see them. Why play chess with a pigeon? Just cause you win the pigeon will still fly up on the board and strut around like it just won knocking over pieces and acting smugly.

>>56537530
I am up 43% and I ain't selling before 10x. Invested first when I started in2021 and been dcaing ever since. This company will thrive in this world immensely

>>56537684
One day you'll become the ultimate options warlock K-ON fren, I believe in you!

>>56537667
h-hot...

>>56537684
The real reason reddithood ever got big is because they offer you options access as soon as you say "trust me bro!" And continue to do the same for subsequent tiers. Fidelity could never.

>>56537665
Yeah, I didn't start trading until early this year (but have managed my son's trades for over 3 years) and wasn't around for a lot but I think the HODL thing came out of the "crypto" shit and a lot of the "invoosters" seem to have a mindset very "crypto" oriented in general. Many such cases, sad! There are some very fuckin' smart ones here too, though, which has and continues to help me improve my own retardations.

>>56537686
You really don’t know anything about the market do you? Fucking pigeons need to stop playing chess

>>56537696
>>56537709
Every post you've made in this thread is just whinging and insulting others, you must be having a really bad day.

>>56537690
the zoomed out big picture is that the stock market hasn't crashed since 1929 and it's only accelerating upwards only being carried by 7 fagnificent multi trillion dollar tech spyware companies with hebrew CEOs

>>56537665
Hold has been the generally the only way since the beginning you morons. It's no surprise with fiat currency that holding pays off even better.

>>56537691
Some researchers actually ran the numbers once:
183% of economists predicted the last 2,154 out of 3 recessions

>>56537157
It's still overpriced.

>>56537712
>times change
>how do I cope

CL bros were gonna make it
CBRL bros enjoying that fat divvy stack?

>>56537716
NOT with leveraged fuckin ETFs based on the most volatile trade out there, literally the *one* trade out of all fuckin trades known as THA WIDOWMAKER.

>>56537192
RSI is short term statistical bullshit.

Went to the store for floss yesterday, today my water filter breaks. I'm just going to order from ebay. Fuck printers.

>>56537690
>>56537686
you're genuinely braindead if you think going up 100% in 6 months is "natural market behaviour" but going down 23% after is a crash because only going up is allowed in your perverted retard permabull dreamworld

>>56537711
Just giving the mentally ill gpfaggot the attention it wants. I have posted my positions and just because I’m not going to discuss strategies or take the time to explain why you are so fucking retarded. Just comprehend that you believing something that happened over 3 years ago, when you weren’t even trading nor did you experience; is the reason for your great analytical thesis on why their stocks should never go down again….you are just an idiot my man. The average person everyone keeps referencing in their arguments about why people shouldn’t vote. Sorry about your luck though.

>>56537147
>>56537111
Kek.

>>56537733
You don't have to hold ETFs... is that all you bears got?
>muh etfs
Who fucking cares???

Tech stocks are held up by cheap energy and advertising revenues. The former is closing as israel palestine conflict expands and oil goes up OPEC can play games but reality sucks. Google is losing money to ad blocking neets and its setting a domino effect that will make them look worse to institutes, big money moved to microsoft years ago. Microsoft will bleed money to windows UX designers taking over and will be a bloated company and pop like meta did in 2022, apple will fail to hit sales figures in future years, tesla will crash as musk burns money on X and fails to realize the internet is economic waste as 4chan proved for decades, this will all combine into the real tech crash. Larry fink talking about bonds and CDs was a signal they are moving out of the passive investing game. Dividends of boring industries like healthcare energy materials will rebound and bullrun in the latter half of 2020s until mid 2030s or so. Mag 7 will be growth stocks in healthcare like phizer and abbvie and breakout 3d printer companies. Meta google tesla will be boring dividend stocks with small yoy growth after their marketcaps half and money from them leaves to bitcoin and other stocks. Apple and microsoft will fail to hit 5 trillion marketcaps and stay below 2 trillion for a decade.

>>56537748
>when you weren’t even trading nor did you experience
I've been trading since 2007 lmao, swing and miss. I can feel you seething through the screen man, stand up and take a walk or something.

>>56537179
I'm thankful for the help, but calling it perfect for a year does not mean it'll work forever. You still need to manage your bankroll.

>>56537736
not when you're looking at daily or longer timeframe my friend
if you're looking at 1 minute, 5 minute charts, yeah

>>56537746
You are brain dead if you think this is the first time this shit has happened... crashes and growth are fucking normal you tard... you are just literally upset it doesn't crash more and what is there to say other than you are making an unlikely bet...

Yep, time to close another written MSFT put at 50%+ profit and wait for another dip to write another one.
I love free money.

>>56537748
You really must be having a bad day because good Lord this is some weird ass ad hominem shit.

>>56537759
Impossible. No one person could be so fucking stupid. I refuse to believe someone my age is that retarded. Keep larping kiddo. Maybe one day you will learn how the market works

>>56537775
I kind of doubt you're even my age if you're going to just randomly assume you know precisely how long someone's been trading on an anonymous Tibetan basket weaving mudhut. Either that or you're really just especially mental.

>>56537754
Where in the fuck are you getting "bear" out of this? The discussion is regarding the BOIL bagholders who bought in somewhere along the massive mountain on the chart from last Winter and are still holding the shit.

>>56537694
Based mumu

>4300
The last barrier before the shirt and tie come off

>>56537785
Couldn’t give a monkeys fart what you think or who you doubt. You are the person that thinks the economy was priced in during the covid bullrun after a flash crash. This is before all the macro economics that happened over the past 3 years since then. And there you go tricking me into talking analysis with you. I hope you enjoyed our conversation because I gotta go. Enjoy the futile nature that is your existence!

Everything is going according to plan

THEY CAN"T STOP THE BUYING

>>56537754
Not to mention, *leveraged* ETFs is being specified, which does what, nigger? DECAY.

>>56537805
Man you just come across as really sad, I hope whatever's hurting you today works out better for you dude, especially if it's stock related. It's rare that I see someone this notably actually seething even on 4chan.

Anything is possible with tomorrow's January manufacturing data

>>56537791
let's.....GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>56537234
delete everything after teh &
fucking zoomers

>>56537805
>Enjoy the futile nature that is your existence!
You sound like you're 15 and malding, Jesus Christ this is Reddit-tier.

>>56537684
how much money and experience did you say you have?

>>56537835
>sounds like you're 15
>redditer
>uses twitch zoomer talk
lol

>>56537825
No one cares about US manufacturing, the whole economy runs on black people buying sneakers.

Jesus fucking CHRIST imagine being a dumb fucking bear

And where the fuck is that faggot posting about selling all his SOXL like a complete bitch? How's it feel to see SOXX right back above the 200 dma you dumb cuck

>>56537826
abandoned baby odds?

>>56537805
You sound like you lost alot of money today, ACK!!!

>>56537861
>buying
*looting and reselling

>>56537860
I am in fact a zoomer but le miserable existence is some hardcore reddit shit. I'm 25 though, twitch lingo is just what we use now gramps.

and just like that spy will never see 425 ever again

>bears not even posting images anymore
>just posting cope and seething
Holy fuck lol.

haahhahahahHAHAHAHAHAH

OMFG

Im mkaing money hand over fist over here baby

i love inflation so much its unreal

Is it time to buy TLT or am I going to get heemed again?

>>56537874
Whatever, as long as the stores have to order more.

>>56537863
it's going to bounce downward

All in on ICU

THIS COULD BE IT

>>56537900
Only your mom bounces down on this dick bitch nigga.

>>56537371
why can't they just do it again since everyone in the world did it?

>>56537870
I think one of the employment numbers would have to be WAY off estimates for that kind of reversal. It might be a little more likely if there's any significant selling this afternoon.

>>56537892
God they're such fucking faggots LMFAO

>>56537930
They cannot comprehend that the market is for investing not speculating.

The market is pricing in hyperinflation because of a corrupt government and central bank that failed to act.

>>56537863
SOXX has to actually close above the 200 day moving average and then you buy SOXL at open the next day. The slight amount you have to pay for the whip saw is insurance to avoid nasty drawdown should things go bad and SOXL plummet to new lows. It's worth the price

Take profits here.
Sell.
Start building short position. Do not go all in short position, DCA in.
We are at the top of ATR.
If you are looking to go long here, you will get slaughtered.

10y yields close to making a new low for the day

>>56537892
it's fine to celebrate, a weathered bear knows when to watch and wait. Enjoy your win today, I'm close to my put buying marks again.

>>56537892
Yeah this is genuinely some of the most asshurt I've seen bobos be in a while. It's like they really can't get their heads around the idea that things might not actually be that bad.

>>56537943
TAKE YOUR MEDS TAKE YOUR MEDS

>>56537945
yup took my gains for the day

>>56537573
NVAX

>>56537955
Do a flip.

>>56537940
This thread is for speculating not investing.

Why is ROKU up fucking 30%

>>56537971
Thought it was for degenerate gambling?

TSLA frens, we dumping just after the cybertruck pump? I'm doing nice for once this year

I solded

>>56537945
possibly the cringiest picture i've seen today

>>56537894
try making money fist inside ass

>>56537976
yes, but also perpetuating the div vs. nodiv wars and cashgang boasting
In short, we like to have fun here

why wont it stop

super green

>>56537943
Yeah stocks will go up forever cause the government will never lose

>us up 1.6%
>international up 1.8%
WHY

Can oil get some of dat hyperinflation?

>>56538007
Retards buying shitcoins. It'll not go great for them.

Bloomberg anon, if you are here can i get an updated $wirp?

Bros, it's over...they're switching me over to flexible time off and they're gonna force me to burn up all my PTO in the name of it

>>56538004
>https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-treasury-borrow-776-billion-q4-2023-10-30/
The government is insolvent and is going to try to print away their debt. This is what a hyperinflationary collapse looks like.

Love seeing shit like PLTR pump. Guarantees some great shorting opportunities in the near future.

/OJ bros... look what J Powell did to us

>>56537845
as of right now, i have 2k to trade with and i've got the rest in XLE. idk how to gauge experience but i've been doing it for the past 3 years.

>>56538002
but why? jobs report? the hike pause?

>VNQ up 3%
HOLY SHI

>>56538029
Yeah were all fucked but this thread is for making money on stocks which means that every dip is an opportunity to buy more

>>56538033
oppps

Wow, we may be heading to new ATHs after AAPL crushes earnings

It's time to bring out the final boss, dont say i didnt warn u

>>56538036
Earnings and optimism, plus a bounce after a few red days.

Buy PYPL
terribly oversold

>>56538056
Picked the right time to kick my coffee habit

>>56538059
That's what happens in hyperinflation.

>>56538066
Its fucking hilarious watching this bull run and then the tight labor market while the fed says inflation is over
Lmao

i just realized why i can't make the trade. i can't sell options because i neither hold the underlying asset nor have the capital to cover my position.

>>56538073
Layoffs and hiring freezing are here. Work ing in big companies and with them I know this for sure.

It is over.

>>56538087
Bro the labor market is tightening and we have record gdp

>>56538085
Lol yeah. Unless you have millions of dollars you can't sell options on indexes.

OK so I just came back after doing some chores and are you guys still being schizo?

bullish or bearish

>>56537944
>It's worth the price
lol no. Since there was no legitimate reason for semi stocks to sell off you should have just bought more and kept holding.

>>56538073
>>56538097
The Fed doesn't calculate CPI: Biden's Bureau of Labor Statistics does. He ordered them to falsify CPI data to make it look like inflation had cooled, while also influencing Fed policy and artificially inflating GDP in the process.

>>56538097
>Bro the labor market is tightening
...not for software engineers

>>56538107
It will go back up to 460 and then crash in the spring.

>>56538102
so then what do i do other than just buying calls and puts? how are the "poor" youtubers able to trade with $100? they keep talking about selling options and then covering that with another option

>>56538111
>funnymentals
you will learn

>>56538106
big Two More Weeks energy in the thread

>>56538114
Everyone and their mother knows the CPI has been bullshit for a while and deviating from shit like the big mac index

>>56538116
BUT WE NEED TO IMPORT MORE INDIANS!!!

>>56538111
>tech sales down
>biden cutting chips to china
nothing to see here

>>56538119
shit, you might be onto something

>>56538121
Can you only see CC's and CSP's?

>>56538097
Yeah nah enjoy that delayed information nigger. I guess McDonalds market is tight. Many companies post jobs that they can't fill right now due to funding btw.

>>56538116
I would like to hang every journalist and figure of authority who ever told anyone to "learn to code"
> it's over

>>56538121
With $100 all you can do are spreads.

>a 10 piece nuggies meal now costs as much as a nice dinner from a casual restaraunt a few years ago
>inflation peaked under 10%, goy!

>>56538144
i don't understand what you mean by "only see". i have the ability to choose a spread and see the different strike options.

>>56538151
what kind of spreads though? ameritrade (soon to be schwab) lets me choose butterfly, condor, strangle, straddle, vertical, calendar, diagonal, and a few others.

>>56538169
>a medium fry is more than $5 with tax
AHHHHHHHH

Did anyone pick up those cheap BITF LEAPs that I was shilling last week?

Im up 57% already and they’ll definitely be ITM soon

>>56538169
wonder what it is here in CA, retard govenor bumped wagies pay to 20.

Brb everyone, I need to go vote my shares!

>>56538169
>14.78 for a double quarter
Where the hell is this, I live in leafland and we're paying $14.18

>>56538169
>eating goyslop

>>56538187
I meant SELL shit,
what is your options level can you trade? spreads?
Naked options?

>>56538195
you shilled them when BITF was higher priced than it is now, retard

>>56538169
The people that consume this garbage deserve to be poor and unhealthy. I'm sorry they just do

>>56537085
What's up my /smg/gers

>>56538141
>>56538129
Hahahahahaha COPE MORE you fucking retards

>>56538169
>>56538192
>>56538197
>It's definitely, absolutely not, never could be, no one would ever do that, price gouging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get fucked, I hope this next leg up completely runs off all of you mouthbreathers

yes
yes
YES
YESSSSS
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

PUMP IT UP, LETS ALL GET RICH

>>56538218
what about people that grubhub this garbage to their house to be poor, unhealthy, lazy, and stupid?

>>56538197
should be over 100 if it had kept up with inflation
just imagine

>>56538215
Yeah but the LEAPs are worth more now.

>>56537454
People are still getting jewed on Meta? Kek

It's the most manipulated blue chip piece of shit in the market. Even worse than Tesla was.

>>56537147
lol.

Why isn't the nasdaq moving at all today

>>56538222
>Hahahahahaha COPE MORE you fucking retards
I get it, anon. You want, no you *need*, a story. There has to be a post hoc rationalization for your losses. It has to be somebody else's fault, obviously not your own lack of risk management when holding triple leveraged ETFs long term. Naturally, any gains are from your unique skill. But when you lose there has to be somewhere to point the finger at hence your desire for funnymentals, a narrative the talking head on CNBC can whisper to make it alright when your account is down and you're not feeling so good about it. That's cool man. I get it. I used to be like you. Now I have a strategy with positive expected value and I trade it without emotion, only execution. And leave the stories to somebody else

>>56538220
You may say /smg/ga; /smg/ger is our word.

>>56538222
>>56538223
>t. Zimbabwean trillionaire

>>56538197
>>56538192
>>56538169
>>56538222
It's "labor hoarding" not price gouging. Employment has minimal and decreasing value so people are better off doing things themselves rather than getting paid to do them so anything involving any kind of labor, skilled or not, is shooting up in price.

>>56538213
level 1 options trading. i think with ameritrade level 2 would mean opening a margin account.

>>56538222
>t. 5 fig account
you got me.

>>56538228
>what about people that grubhub this garbage to their house to be poor, unhealthy, lazy, and stupid?
My wife's nephew is this guy. Dude is like 400 pounds and is bi-polar on top of it. Just stuffs his face with goyslop delivery. I feel bad cuz she gets upset about it. What a way to live

>>56538241
kek

>>56538239
tl;dr bears are such longwinded fucking faggots when their narrative evaporates and suddenly the market is neon green and their shorts go underwater. I saw it last year and now it's happening the exact same way again lmfao

>>56538247
>It's not price gouging guys, really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lolololol

>>56538222
>price gouging
Fuck off millenial

>>56538254
Ya you can't do spreads you need a margin account to do so. Also you should look up how to do spreads and other options strats so don't get margin call

>>56538275
Your stocks are going down in real terns as they hyperinflate away.

>>56538275
>tl;dr bears are such longwinded fucking faggots when their narrative evaporates and suddenly the market is neon green and their shorts go underwater. I saw it last year and now it's happening the exact same way again lmfao
What are you talking about anon? If SOXX closes above the 200 day moving average today I'll be 100% in SOXL tomorrow at 9:30am sharp. I lose a little bit in the whip saw but make bank long term as SOXL goes up. And if SOXL plummets down along with the market for whatever reason then my account is saved. What's wrong with that? Heads I make bank, tails I lose a small amount. The alternative, without the risk management, is either make bank or lose it all and get demoralized. Yeah fuck that

>>56538259
like I didnt think people could sink any lower but then those delivery apps came about and it was like....holy shit you people really are that fucking stupid, like you deserve to be slaves.

CAN WE PUMP MUCH HIGHER

(SO HIGH)

The absolute state of this thread.
Bobo, you should know when you have been conquered.

>>56538275
>>56538318
>bears are such longwinded fucking faggots
Chill, I was a bear and bull this year, and have done alright at different times.
I get why bears are bearish. The macro picture is ugly AF. But I get why bulls are bullish, Wall Street kikes aren't giving up anytime soon, and we're going to keep pumping for a few months at least.
Long term, the picture is very negative.

Either go cashgang or just stay long until you see an obvious breakdown. The way the market keeps rallying even after a pullback tells me the direction is bullish for now but I can't ignore the macro.
Especially after the yield curve bear steepening.

The real problem is everyone wants their way immediately. Things like bear steepenings don't cause instant crashes. But there is a chance of a real fuckhueg crash over the coming months.

wtf is Meta's problem making FAAGTMN look bad?

>>56538289
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

THEY LEGITIMATELY DON'T THINK IT'S PRICE GOUGING

MY FUCKING SIDES

>>56538323
You're either a bull or a bear, switching back and forth is retarded as fuck. It's always the most shortsighted faggots that say dumb shit like "maaaan the macro picture is so fucked!" while they slurp down mainstream media slop about Israel and Ukraine and then trade based on it. There have always been idiots saying this stuff, the market has only ever ended up higher than it was before.

>>56538323
It's really annoying. If you're doing anything other than buying OTM calls on SPX everyone says "omg retarded bears."
Things have value, usually the value goes up, sometimes it goes down. You can often make half decent predictions about both the value and the way the market will (mis)price it based on fundamentals and macro economics. Saying that it's going to go down sometimes doesn't make you a perma bear, it just makes you correct.
For the record I was saying all month we'd get the rally here while I was buying puts for the spring and shorter term calls for the winter.

WE'RE SO BACK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>56538343
>You're either a bull or a bear, switching back and forth is retarded as fuck.
no it isn't. There's money to be made on both sides.

There's no way the bond market can be correct right now, right? Especially on the long end

WTFWT

WHERE IS THE BAKER

>>56538318
Smart bears cashed out already.

>>56538290
i think i did a credit spread once, and a few straddle options. for the most part i've been buying calls/puts.

>>56538343
>the market has only ever ended up higher than it was before
Yes, of course that has been the case. However you're talking about holding 3x leveraged daily rebalanced semiconductors. Your fate is in the asset managers at Direxion's hands. You need to be extremely careful and diligent to get out when things start to go bad. A day could come when the draw down is so big that SOXL, unlike the unleveraged indexes, actually won't go back up or at least for a really long time. Imagine holding SOXL through the dot com crash. That would have been a -99% drawdown. I haven't run the math but I don't think you would have recovered even now. Not that it would matter cuz SOXL would be delisted. I strongly urge you to manage risk and don't shit on other people who are doing that their own way. Nobody is saying there aren't multiple ways to make money

>>56538353
>>56538343
>>You're either a bull or a bear, switching back and forth is retarded as fuck.
Lol no.
Unless you want to go full bogglehead and put 100% of your money into a Vanguard fund and just leave it then *not* switching back and forth is retarded.

>>56538343
Just use the app. lmao.
The only ones getting price gouged are retarded boomers that can't operate a smartphone.

In all seriousness though, why would you even consider buying that goyslop?

>>56538393
>Just use the app. lmao.
>The only ones getting price gouged are retarded boomers that can't operate a smartphone
Yeah this. If you just gotta have a McDicks meal the app will give it to you for half price every single time

>>56538399

>>56538386
>However you're talking about holding 3x leveraged daily rebalanced semiconductors.
We used to have a disclaimer for this but someone replaced it.

New thread
>>56538420
New thread
>>56538420
New thread
>>56538420
New thread

>>56538435
delete dis you got scooped >>56538420

>>56538343
Bitch u dum

Crabfor two days and then tank, barring no fedding around.You’ve been warned.Mumus are as delusional asbiden bros.

Man there is nothing like being unemployed and seeing a big green number in your brokerage account.

>>56538034
ya you need 25k by law

Why is everyone suddenly quiet? What happened?

>>56539295
Shush the baboon is restless