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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>56434325

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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only Airbnb
https://safehouse.homes/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/ev2jTUKS


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

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START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

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>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

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Shall I make a post? Ok

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Doubtless this bodes well for XMR

>> No.56461509
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Need more schizoposting in these generals. Take your niacin guys it's like smoking but healthier.

>> No.56461638

>>56461509
sauce?

>> No.56461647

>>56461296
Wow a redheaded monero chan, I thought there had to another monero fork for that since wow is the blonde

>> No.56462088

>>56461638
I learnt it during covid

>> No.56462636

>>56462088
I meant sauce for the chick you shithead

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>>56462636

>> No.56463363

Its over

>> No.56463946

i have a general proposal.

i was reading following article until i got to the phrase:
>The digital currency would be stored in a digital wallet and could be used for online and offline payments, meaning they could be made from device to device without an internet connection, such as from a remote area or an underground car park.
>https://web.archive.org/web/20231014142332/https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/08/digital-euro-is-coming-privacy/

that made me think. i guess there would be a demand for offline transactions. so here is my proposal.

what if there would be a feature on monero, that was analog to a cashiers check in traditional finance. like an allowance to deduct a certain amount from a wallet. ideally, for purposes of user friendlyness, you coul'd "sign a couple of coins" with a key and exchange offline. what do you guys think, is that even possible without a central authority?

>> No.56464849

>>56463946
It's not a new idea and desu there's not likely to be much demand for offline payments. People are better off trading something else in those cases. If you guys trust each other enough to exchange coins that are "sealed for freshness" then you might as well just make a note and finalize the transaction later when you've got internet.

>> No.56464964

dead general

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>>56461296
At current volume we churn through our whole market cap in a month. Whoever is trying to desperately suppress Monero is looking to lose money. I am thinking a 2x randomly one day during the upcoming bull market conditions when shorts cover

>> No.56465489

>>56464964
Not enough people having fun, saying whatevers on their mind, etc. Generals should be a little bit like a group chat but with a bit more effort behind posts. No one hangs out here though because the vibe is wrong. Maybe you could call this the "Monero education thread" because it's walls of pasta and a few redditors responding to occasional questions.

A real general would cater to Monero people first and foremost. The OP would include, if anything, recent news related to Monero, drama, something funny. It might even include the latest stats like transactions and price.

Yeah, price! You've got to stop being such weirdos about price talk. Even technically speaking, a higher price directly equals more PoW security for each block, increasing the amount that can be safely transacted / decreasing confirmations needed. But price is just something so obvious to talk about it's like if the F1 general just talked about engines and refused to talk about the race.

There are Monero posters around the site but not here. That includes me usually.

>> No.56465560

>>56465489
No point in posting here. OP is a mindbroken spaz who spams reaction images at anyone who disagrees with him and makes these threads useless for anything except baiting (you)s. Where's a decent place to talk instead?

>captcha: GAYKR

>> No.56465568

>>56465446
That's pretty normal, maybe even low compared to other coins.

>> No.56465835

>>56465560
Yep exactly. I don't know desu. There are other better places than this thread on IRC and discord but I've never been into using those, I always prefer image boards. I think we could make another general here where fun is allowed. It could be like r/xmrtrader is to r/monero. Actually xmrtrader is probably one of those places that's not a bad place to talk. But yeah I'd like to see a better thread here.

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I still have fun in these threads. Monero/Monerochan is a fun springboard for creativity and memes, and supporting a project that solves one of the most important political problems of our times gives a sense of purpose beyond just
>wen moon
and fantasizing about what color Lamborghini you're going to get. I'm not some hippy or monk who's indifferent to price and wants to live in a dirt hut eating dandelions, but at the same time in my order of values I place doing things which have importance and meaning over whatever puts the most fiat in my bank account.

>> No.56465998

if you care about monero appreciating you're the biggest faggot, if monero increases in value it fails and you're a moonfaggot

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>>56465998
heh

>> No.56466127

>>56465835
Maybe I'll make a thread in a day or two then. And I think there's an XMR General matrix as well, but I can't remember the address.

>>56465998
Anyone who doesn't care is a liar or insane.

>> No.56466145

Reminder that moonfags get the rope.

>> No.56466173

>>56465959
I have fun in my wallet instead, and during the past 3 months, seeing it up 20-30% at month’s end is pretty awesome desu

>> No.56467019

They really are sliding these threads, aren't they? I'll see you guys at the bitch.

>> No.56467128

>>56465998
>If monero increases in value it fails
You're thinking of Chainlink (ticker: LINK).

Monero works just fine regardless of what it's price is.

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>>56466145
>Reminder that moonfags get the rope.

Based beyond belief. Moonfagging does nothing but attract more mouth-breathing "wen lambo?" opportunists, its an annoying distraction from the mission at hand, there's a reason why r/Monero also prohibits price talk and directs you to the dedicated containment board.

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

>> No.56467528

>>56466058
>>56466127
>>56467128
moonfaggots, hide yourselves

>>56466145
>>56467349
based

>> No.56467654

>>56461345
That's a couple of months after my own birth. Pretty sick how he was already talking about privacy in cryptocurrency.

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>>56467654
>Pretty sick how he was already talking about privacy in cryptocurrency.

The idea was spawned back in the early 80's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecash

>> No.56469956

>>56466145
my bags are full
feels good

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Reporting in
##################################
Swimng Pool - https://pastebin.com/raw/Mb7Dyg24
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
##################################
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>> No.56469976

https://youtu.be/Xh4uC0wIdxs?si=qqh_MEntwTcXhsjS&t=87

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i was cruisin down the street
4 deep
three bitches no bitcoin on me
and monero might as well be a freak
cause it got two arms and some feet
cause it wake up in the morning and it eat
i love monero and i think it love me
prolly cause i let that bitch do what it please
call monero cause he gon send for free
lemme hush thats between him and me

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>>56465568
I think the crypto future is more than secured, and I like Monero’s price and history in its chart. It has a particular steadiness in its organic growth.We are in hyperinflation fiat end game meltdown mode in the US right now. The sheep aren’t even vaxxing enough to keep themselves dying and inflation down.

>> No.56470637

I'm beginning to think no one actually buys legit stuff with monero :(

>> No.56471386

>>56470637
No one wants to spend thousands of dollars on shitty logos, it's a business no one here cares about. I can get 1000 AI generated ones in a few seconds.

>> No.56471437

>>56471386
>AI
The generators you're referring to steal icons from other businesses and aren't properly licensed for use. There's even super Mario and angry birds garbage there too, don't use the AI meme unless you want to get yourself a issue. I can't even imagine the typography licensing issues either. Those sites are a pretty bad trap to get yourself in unless you're creating some fantasy sports team

The problem still stands for other people too, not just logos. Only thing that gets sold there is gold or weed or porn. That's not a good use case, but then again the same can be said for bitcoin and every other crypto

>> No.56471684

>>56471437
i sell perfectly legitimate servers for monero exclusively buddy
just because no ones buying your thousand dollar logo that doesnt mean no one uses monero for legitimate purposes

>> No.56472137

Noob here. I installed monerod from Debian's official repo.

When I run with "--start-mining" am I solo mining or am I p2p pool mining? There doesn't seem to be a lm option to toggle even though the GUI seems to support it.

>> No.56472248

>>56472137
you're solo mining
p2pool is a separate project the gui only implements it for convenience

>> No.56472398

>>56472248
Thanks, that's what I thought. Is there any way to show hashrate with monerod? According to xmrig (which I could get to work in stress test mode but not to actually connect to monerod to actually mine) I get 500 H/s on each core and I have 32 cores, so that's 16kH/s.

Am I going to get anywhere solo mining or do I need to figure out p2p pool? I don't mind if it's lumpy payout but if I'm not at least getting some per week then I'll probably need to get p2p pool.

I've had it running for about 4 hours now on 25 cores (just to test thermals - I've never run it this hard for this long, though I have a 240mm radiator + water cooler so I'm not worried, just cautious) and I haven't got anything yet but am not surprised. Just curious as to what my expectations should be.

>> No.56472426

>>56472398
I think 'status' in monerod gives you a hash rate

>> No.56472461

>>56472426
Damn this thing is interactive? Didn't know that. Thanks, yep 13kH/s using 25 cores, so the same xmrig told me. That makes me feel better.

>> No.56473155

>>56472398
you won't find shit in a week solomining. It took me about 1 year with ~10kH/s and if you're unlucky it might just take 5.

mine to p2pool, join the bonus hashrate raffle. if you're fine with not getting anything for a week or two, id suggest using the big p2pool, not mini but you can use mini until you get your first share to know it's working

>> No.56473307

>>56461296
Silveranon started a market platz to buy and sell precious metals for XMR.
Dont you see that if this becomes huge it will change the face of global PM trade?

>> No.56474856

>>56473307

Monerosilver.com?

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>> No.56477965

I know we meme about glowies and state actors, but I also want people to appreciate the ability to be "merely" not auto-surveilled in day-to-day transactions.
How many of you guys would actually buy from a normal online shop if you could pay in Monero? If I ran something like a dollar store and sold toothbrushes and organic soaps (or substitute whatever consumables/knickknacks you'd actually want) would you use it? Or is Monero for you more about going entirely dark.

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>>56477965
>How many of you guys would actually buy from a normal online shop if you could pay in Monero?

A lot of us, that would be ideal. The problem is that clearnet commerce is always vulnerable to State interference and its quite possible Monero will be outlawed eventually for being too damn effective.


>If I ran something like a dollar store and sold toothbrushes and organic soaps (or substitute whatever consumables/knickknacks you'd actually want) would you use it?

Sounds good. Host it on the darknet (preferably I2P) instead of the clearnet and you should have yourself a bulletproof storefront. Then its just a matter of spreading the word.


>Or is Monero for you more about going entirely dark.

Going dark is the only way to guarantee long-term survival.

>> No.56479501

>>56477965
I already do and have been for a while now.

protein powder, pc parts, etc.

>> No.56480044

>>56470637
I'm considering it, I just have too many variables going on before deciding to fuck up my logo and whatnot.

>> No.56481067

>>56477965
You'd have to sell the sort of shit that people would actually want. For example, I would pay good moneyros for mexican antibiotics. It is a fucking crime that you can get cbd, kratom and even fentanyl easier than something that kills flus, colds and larceral infections here in amuttica. If I lived closer to the border I'd get a passport card and do it myself, as they fucking sell them at any old pharmacy. Naturally, you would need to host it in the dark on i2p and whatnot. I have an idea for something similar, but I'm too busy to start it in earnest. As fucked up as clearnet cuckchan is, the bitch is too quiet to use regularly, though I'm happy more people are jumping on as of late.
>>56479302
>Going dark is the only way to guarantee long-term survival.
Amen to that. But the casino is opening up soon, don't sit in the shade too long!

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>>56461296
Yooooooooooo I be on that ticker $Monero tip all day y'all. All my homies love privacy

>> No.56483109

$Monero is the future of finance in my opinion. The privacy and low fees are light years ahead BTC and ETH.

>> No.56483812

Is there a wallet that allows you to generate addresses for the main cryptos without KYC? And is generally considered safe?

I'm listening to Luke Smith and want to make a monero wallet but it would be nice if I can have other cryptos too

>> No.56483818

>>56483812
preferably online because I'm on linux and often jump between computers and distro hop a lot

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all offers on sale kyun.host get em while theyre hot

>> No.56484166

>>56483812
try cake wallet

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Cake Wallet is the second best wallet (the first one being the Monero wallet with your own node running). For $Monero though you can use any Ethereum wallet.

>> No.56485252

>>56484166
seconded
>>56483812
Exodus too but it has high fees and isnt open source

>> No.56485302

>>56484198

Nice try.

>> No.56485467

>>56483812
What the fuck kind of crypto requires KYC just to spawn a wallet? It's a piece of math.
I haven't looked at anything but Monero in years, are we really that cucked already?

>> No.56485530

>>56485467
I added that just in case. I know if you keep the whole blockchain locally you can do whatever you want (I used to have the dogecoins wallet) but that's way too impractical for me

>> No.56486712

Good morning, I hate moonfags.

>> No.56488752

>>56481125
I like Monerochan, but it probably isn't a great idea to lead with her. If you're confident your audience would positively receive her, go for it, but probably default to talking about the evils of central banks.

>>56479302
Short of an outright ban (arguably a good thing for Monero), you could do legit clear net commerce and just accept XMR, the problem is you are extremely heavily discouraged from doing so at all because of what they expect from you with taxes. So you're between a rock and a hard place, be legit and actually fully comply with tax obligations (and likely make no profit), or take the risk with the gray market and potentially risk prison. If you're doing otherwise legal commerce you can probably get away with it so long as you keep as much as you can in Monero. Technically speaking though, the tax man wants you to pay him when you buy and sell XMR, it doesn't matter what you're if you're buying groceries with it. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/taxes/what-are-cryptocurrency-taxes/
More problems come in with other people's obligations, suppliers won't necessarily be on the same page as you and could rat you out. Anyone you pay as an employee is also expected to prove income for rent and the like. The whole system is set up to get people to snitch on each other and it is very difficult to get people to not snitch and the lichpin of all of this is that you have to be in a physical location. In order to fully live an XMR circular economy life, you're basically reduced to a perpetual rentoid.

I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on how to do this kind of thing though. Perhaps the best way is to maintain a legit source of income and keep the XMR trades completely separate.

>> No.56489889

>>56488752

If you want to keep things manageable, you gotta go dark. Rent everything you need, cash out only when absolutely necessary and keep a low profile.

Ideally, you're selling a digital service and can therefore work and travel at the same time, converting your XMR as you go.

>> No.56490180

>>56481125
bimbonero should be used instead.

>> No.56490507

Any place to go online that accepts monero deposits and withdrawals on an instanced browser for gambling?

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>> No.56492482

>>56488752
>Perhaps the best way is to maintain a legit source of income and keep the XMR trades completely separate
yeah maybe you link to a different shop (not yours) that sells almost (exactly) the same items you sell and they only take xmr.
You could even put a "pay with xmr" Option in your site and just make it clear that you are now buying from a different shop.
Am I trying the "in minecraft" defense here or could you set it up like that legally?

>> No.56492684

>>56488752
>you could do legit clear net commerce and just accept XMR
this is exactly what needs to happen.
anons that go abroad can just buy basic shit like clothes, razors, toothbrushes, while they are clean shaven newage homeless nomads hiding under the nose of the man.

Im sort of putting together a playbook for doing this. The centerpoint is a marketplace that accepts XMR where you can have stuff delivered to empty houses. I buy a "return" ticket for a "vacation" to country of choice. Then head for a semi urban crime free area where you can sleep in the parks, use wifi at the library, shave in accessible toilets, and get what handouts you can.

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https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZdyiXIlKe_Y

>> No.56493495

>>56492684
>empty houses
Or drop boxes similar to amazon lockers. I'm not sure why more businesses haven't adopted this model.
Captcha yaaah4

>> No.56494914

>>56492684
Dude, what the fuck sort of shit would you have to have done to have to be hobotrekking to that degree. I always assumed that the camper/van/boat life type of nomadic lifestyle would be the ideal for monero greymanning. Especially since starlink would allow for satcomms anywhere with a clear view of the sky.
>>56493495
>talk of deaddrops
A front or just getting a mailbox at a one of the postnet style 3rd party shippers would be a better bet. I'm sure greasing some wagie's palm would be enough to get an anonymous box, to which a key can be floated around. I hope this gets the noggin joggin.

>> No.56495267

so when will monero finally go to the moon?

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>> No.56495292

>>56494914
Starlink requires fiat.

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>>56495267
>so when will monero finally go to the moon?

Next Thursday.

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I wonder what normal people think of Monero.
Really makes me hmm...

>> No.56495824

>>56492443
What happened to this based retard?

>> No.56496720

>>56495292
Hmm, I see a business opportunity.

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>>56461296
The Monero general or is it actually just the stupid reaction gif general? You decide

>> No.56498864

>>56461296
What is the inlet stablecoin providing mineros privacy? Zephyr

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>> No.56499731

>>56499345
anyone knows what happend to birbman? Haven't seen him in ages

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>>56461296
Looks like the United States federal government is copying our monerochan style in order to get zogbots for the coming wars. Picrel

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>>56486712
We are literally about to moon tho. Just sold the last of my ADA into XMR baby. How is no one talking about this gigabullish chart?

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>>56501079
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZi_R3StMaE

>> No.56501235

>>56500157
Competency crisis in action, that meme is shit!

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Moonbois WAGMI.

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>>56495451
I wish Luke used Monero on his website :(

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>>56502417
Moonero. So hot right now

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>>56502417
>>56502634
I spent a sizable amount of XMR on gift cards yesterday before this pump. You're welcome.

>> No.56503807

It's official. Previously, moonfags were out. Now we are back in. Lets fucking GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.56503820

well done for having a monero general, wish those linkies would do the same and stop shitting up the board with dozens of threads

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>>56502634
>Moonero
I like it. I need more Monero name puns.
I already have Moñerro for Mexican monerochan.

>> No.56503969

>>56503807
Checked.

>> No.56503986

>>56502417
are we mooning frens?
I don't mind being poor though

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Looks like someone got hit with a huge ransomware attack.

>> No.56504302

This shit will easily hit $1,000. Hedgies are fukt.

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How much do you have to spend to suddenly pump 13$ like this?

>> No.56504419

>>56466145
maybe it mooning wouldn't be a bad thing...
>>56467349
as it may help with the overall purpose

>> No.56504470

>>56480044
>I'm considering it, I just have too many variables going on before deciding to fuck up my logo and whatnot.
I lowered the price from 38 xmr to 10 xmr, as recommended by a message I got from someone here.

Like I always say, I provide near infinite revisions for the logo. I'll keep making batches until you like something and only then you'll pay for it so I can send you the whole package. You don't pay for anything until you decide on something, so don't worry about fucking anything up :)

>> No.56504480

>>56501079
crazy accurate prediction / TA

>> No.56504615

>>56504480
It's crashing again

>> No.56504624

>>56504615
it's fucking over

>> No.56504625

Idiot shit go back to your place 0.003

>> No.56504671

please stop raising the price of monero, it's already expensive.

thank you.

>> No.56504723

>>56501079
Okay, but how much bullshit are the lines on these charts? When I've seen people talk about different "formations" or whatever in order to predict what it will do in the future, it just reeks of astrology level pattern recognition.

>>56492482
You'd have to keep up the facade that you don't run both, since you wouldn't be reporting XMR transactions. Seems highly likely you'd be the assumed owner of both. It is like OJ talking about how he's going to get the real murderer.

I was more thinking side-gig type stuff. All of this business is done completely separately from your regular W-2 work and is not reported to the IRS. All profits from this go back into paying for goods and services in XMR.

>>56492684
>The centerpoint is a marketplace that accepts XMR where you can have stuff delivered to empty houses.
>>56494914
>I hope this gets the noggin joggin.
To spell this out
There's tons of small mail stores in the US, I don't think any of them are wildly profitable. What if you could rent mailboxes from them with XMR or cash? Afaik there aren't any actual regulations requiring customers to be identified with a government ID either. It seems to me like it shouldn't be too difficult with a little charisma and shopping around to find someone who won't ask too many questions. A playbook for what to expect and how to not raise too many red flags would be good. It would be very cool if we could figure out ways to make XMR popular with these businesses in particular.

>> No.56505021

>>56504723
There's one around me, I'll go there and ask, I'm sure that like every place that trades in the mark of the beast, they're gonna want kyc. The kid there is a little small but I don't think he runs the place, I'll see if he can get his palms greased. Alternatively, you'd have to get to know the owner and play ball with him, but as the times are I'm sure its some retarded boomer who thinks the IRS death squads just needs an excuse to waco him.

>> No.56506575

Is there a site to publish job offers and services, a job market that is build with crypto payment in mind?
I tried looking for one but they were all web3 shit that looked scammy as shit.

>> No.56506723
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Why are some monero shizos so fucking cringe and deluded

>> No.56506850

>>56506723
Lmao, everyone is welcome to use monero. Having said that, i think that guy must have lived in a bubble his hole life. Away from day to day reality and far away from real human nature.
Maybe ill read the book when i need some good laugh

>> No.56506851

>>56502578
Mental Outlaw is /ourglowie/
Luke is /ouragorist/
Reave the arone!

>> No.56507004

WE ARE BACK AGAIN BABY OOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.56507021

wtf is going on?

>> No.56507022

>>56507004
Moonfags get the rape

>> No.56507064

>>56502578
gigachad mental glowlaw vs virgin luke McMastercard enjoyer

>> No.56507066

Also the price change is just in response to BTC increasing and is pretty irrelevant, even though I know that's why 90% of this board even uses the site anymore.

>> No.56507080

>>56464849
I know people don't like to admit it but fiat and in particular cash will never go away. There is no reason for us to try to replace offline transactions with some bullshit monero physical note when this will always exist, so, it would be a waste of dev resources. Cryptocurrencies are designed for electronic payments.

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>> No.56507150

>>56507022
anti-moonfags have no power here

>> No.56507206

I guess we are back

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Tax refund received... and it's gone. *poof*

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>>56507022
>Moonfags get the rape

Based.

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MONEROMARKET.IO

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What are we experiencing right now?

>> No.56507908

>>56507894
literally nothing, the range continues, zoom the fuck out

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Called the Monero developers. Price will be re-pegged to $150.

>> No.56507943

>>56507894
see >>56507908
This pump is well withing the range for the year. Unless we pump past 200 it's just normal crabbing.

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>>56507245
sir please stop the train is here

>> No.56507995

>>56492684
>>56494914
What about a decentralized private delivery system? Use xmr and the package goes through different delivery people like tor nodes who each have to put collateral so that the package is delivered

>> No.56508456

>>56503807
we won, it's inevitable, our rise was prophesized, from the mountaintop, the citadel tower overlooking the unwashed bitshits

>> No.56508607

>>56507894
people buying drugs for halloween

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>>56502634
>>56507150
Volume appears to be up massively as we finally face worthy resistance on the moon mission. Still, we had no chance going from 160 to 175 that easily, but we did. Clear moon signs are abound, and we will be moonero men, Anon.

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>>56507995
Genius.

>> No.56509810

>>56507995
Just difficult to coordinate and overcome initial network effects.
Probably it's best to start local and then expand to multi hop.

>> No.56509944

>>56507995
have fun with the universal postal union

>> No.56510233

>>56509944
With a decentralized protocol that is self-propelling i would hope it would be a similar situation to torrenting and the movie industry

>> No.56510747

>>56507995
I think you meant escrow, but it still requires trust. I personally think a nkyc local mailbox network is the best way to implement the use of xmr.

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>>56483812
>>56485530
lmao you seems to have a major confusion when it comes to blockchain tech.
But fear not, because you are in the best place of /biz/.
Stick around and you will eventually learn all you need to know to not be a danger to yourself.

>> No.56512299

>>56510233
also have fun getting anthrax in your mail

>> No.56512425

>>56467128
Chainlink has been holding strong for a very long time now.
other solid ones are LINK, NXRA and EGLD

>> No.56512519

>>56483109
Ahead of btc? btc is the benchmark of blockchain development. payment gateways is another aspect of defi development to keep up with

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>> No.56514657

>>56512519
bitshit is the past, it's ok not everyone can understand the events that will transpire

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feelsgoodman

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THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 64) IS OUT NOW!

Grab a coffee or a beer and kick back for a read.

Like, share, subscribe, and spread the word about Monero as it continues to grow and offers unmatched financial privacy.

https://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-64

>> No.56516520

>>56512519
You wouldn't have bought bitcoin in 2010
>defi development
retard signal

>> No.56516548

>>56515905
>buying bitshit

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>>56515905
>file.png

>> No.56516902

>Monero went from 164 to 161
Were we to cocky bros?

>> No.56516969

>>56516902
what is 'it's over' in esperanto?

>> No.56517036

Do we have any spooky Halloween Monerochans?

>> No.56517336

>>56516969
Ĝi estas finita
It would be funny if there was a chud looking monerochan saying that

>> No.56518633

>>56517036

Get the AI crew on it.

>> No.56518680

reminder that "moonfags get the rope" posters get the rope

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>> No.56519123

>>56518680
reminder that " "moonfags get the rope" posters get the rope " posters get the rope

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>> No.56520116

>>56516902
Say prices in dollar, not euro
> Monero is worth 170 dollars right now

>> No.56520136

>>56519123
reminder that """moonfags get the rope" posters get the rope" posters get the rope" posters get the rope

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>> No.56520704

>>56516548
Only from fiat so I can use it to trade

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>>56516810
>windows key + shift + s
>ctrl + v

>> No.56521184

>>56520116
The taliban doesnt care about your monopoly currency

>> No.56521261

>>56461296
Anyone knows what the most easy way is to integrate a monero payment system in your site.
For BTC I use Apirone which works very easy, or would it defeat the purpose using XMR while doing
it through a third party? Had some trouble to make it work on the server. I guess Monero CLI is the next
best thing?

>> No.56521680

>>56521261
BTCpayserver has a monero configuration
There's also https://monerointegrations.com/

>> No.56522825

that's it
enough is enough
if we're not a top ten coin by the end of the week i'm selling my bags
all of it

>> No.56523008

>>56522825
if we don't continue crabbing i'm going to shove little ball bearings into my cock
dozens of them

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Another low volume unstoppable pump at 171, similiar to the one at 161. Looks like we are breaking out past the 170 resistance after all. Expect 200-300 range soon.

>> No.56524361

>>56523043
delusional

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>>56523043
>Tfw had 2 buxx on a store wallet
>Now its 3 buxx
To the moon

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>>56523043
>Another low volume unstoppable pump at 171, similiar to the one at 161. Looks like we are breaking out past the 170 resistance after all. Expect 200-300 range soon.

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>> No.56525155

>>56463946
>>56464849
Im no codefag, but couldn't Monero transactions be done on a LORA-type mesh-network? From my caveman understanding, these mesh-networks could be used in a more off-grid manner.

>> No.56525510

>>56520136
But we’re all out of rope.

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>> No.56527811

>>56461296
CBDC is coming and this will increase the price of Monero

This is the mark of the beast

https://youtu.be/AJ0A6HT7QNM?feature=shared

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>>56461296
bros...
will xmr break out or nah

>> No.56528285

>>56527929
No

>> No.56528901

>>56525155
You'd have to have a bridge send it out to a cli to reach the chain, but its feasible. You'd also have to format the message to a form that the bridge bot can decipher and send. For example, you would have to send the bot a message intended for the cli to send a transaction. However, I think signed transactions are actual files that would have to be sent to the cli in order to be read and send. Does fiverr have nerds you can hire for this sort of thing?

>> No.56528928

>>56528285
fugggggg

>> No.56530243

>>56528901
If coding wasn't like reading egyptian hieroglyphs to me, i'd take a crack at it. Im sure if the Mesh-network guys got this to their attention, they might know how to get it working.

>> No.56530396

>sell legitimate item on platform
>people want to take communication/messaging off moneromarket and use some third party meme app
Whoever does this is an idiot. I'm not going to use your app, what is wrong with you?

>> No.56530428

>>56461296
I'm so sick of seeing pussy boat.

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more monero girls that can be edited: https://imgur.com/gallery/J13Pf0V

>> No.56531362

>>56531256
>MOERO

>> No.56531512

we missed the bullrun, again

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>>56531512
>we missed the bullrun, again

>> No.56531751

>>56461296
>If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.
hey, retard here. I have a ledger nano s plus and the monero gui but it just shows 0.0000 balance. does anyone know how to fix this? I'm using bootstrap mode and restored from a block height < than when I made the wallet but it still doesn't show

>> No.56531815

>>56531512
Monero needs sidechains or layer 2s to take advantage of the privacy on the base layer.

>> No.56531950

I have a USB with my Monero on it but my old wallet was on my laptop which got wiped, is all my monero gone?

>> No.56532300

>>56531256
>https://imgur.com/gallery/J13Pf0V
cute :)

>> No.56532446

>>56531950
Nvm my nmemonic seed isn't being validated on the GUI.

IT'S OGRE

>> No.56532598

>>56532446
That shouldn't be happening. Your mnemonic should work.

>> No.56532616

>>56532598
I've written it down but for some reason it's only 24 words i have no idea i must've fucked up somewhere, oh well live and learn :(

>> No.56532617

>>56465998
>if monero increases in value it fails and you're a moonfaggot
>if bitcoin increases in value it fails and you're a moonfaggot
The price is a direct measure of market penetration. Every crypto should strive to have the highest possible value.

>> No.56532627

>>56532616
It's only 24 words for everyone. You're obviously spelling something wrong

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>>56532617
>The price is a direct measure of market penetration.

lol in this clown market price is a direct measure of fraud, manipulation and irrationality.

Only actual adoption counts, everything else is a mirage.

>> No.56532687

>>56532627
Do I need to remember the wallet name and restore height too? or is it just the mnemonics?

I haven't been on my gui in over a year

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>> No.56533122

>>56531751
Have you tried restoring from seed?

>> No.56533286

>>56532687
Just restore from height 0 with your seed phrase, doing a full sync of the blockchain. It will probably take a few days

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>> No.56533317

>>56531751
Restore from 0, and remember that if you're using a hardware wallet then you will have to confirm transactions as the blockchain syncs. Like if you made a transaction from your wallet at height 1000000 then when the blockchain syncs up to 1000000 then you'll have to press a button on your device. It's a really horrible user experience.

>> No.56533427

>>56532627
>It's only 24 words for everyone

Also I have 24 written down but on the monero gui it says 25.

>> No.56533484

>>56530620
>>56530662
>>56530846
>>56530953
>>56531256
Pirate theme is fun.

>> No.56533737

>>56533427
the 25th word is a checksum, it is the only word of the mnemonic seed phrase which repeats. Try using the other 24 words for the 25th and one of them should recover it just fine.

this is only assuming you already do not have any repeating words, if you do have repeating words already, things are going to get VERY complicated trying to recover your wallet, but its still possible.

>> No.56534726

>>56461296
I love XMR but this pattern is a yikes. God help us

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>>56534726

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>> No.56535789

where the fuck is the monero bookstore?

>> No.56535865
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56535865

>>56535789

It shut down. :(

>> No.56536085

>>56535789
>>56535865
oof, how will xmr flourish when people don't want to buy legal stuff with it?

>> No.56536145

>>56533737
i'll try that thanks, also where would the repeating word go in the sequence? at the end?

>> No.56536181

>>56536085
why do autistic inbreds like you feel the need to bark random lowiq garbage when people want to use a currency to buy things?

>> No.56536211

>>56536181
>when people want to use a currency to buy things?
we just established that they don't

>> No.56536679

>>56536145
yes, the repeating word has to go at the end of the sequence

>> No.56536841

>>56536085
>people don't want to buy legal stuff with it
fuck off , brandon, no one is buying your AI made logos

>> No.56536877

Monero desperately needs rebranding and proper leadership
To all you fuckers shitting out low quality AI generated 'monerochan' pics, PLEASE kill yourselves

>> No.56536883

we're gonna end up on the same "store of value" narrative as BTC but with "more security & privacy", isn't it folks

>> No.56536903

>>56536877
>Monero desperately needs rebranding and proper leadership
Monero needs only a technical leadership (and it has the best one in crypto).

>> No.56536973

>>56533122
>>56533317
thanks bros, I'll try to restore from 0.
and yeah lol it's not the best user experience, especially since I think the hardware wallet needs to be plugged in the entire time.

>> No.56537299

>>56536903
>only technical
wrong, organisational and promotional too
you can objectively have the best product out there with 0 adoption

current issues
>lack of devs
>lack of funding (due to a weird funding system)
>lack of promotion, awareness and adoption

I fear Monero will stagnate hard otherwise, despite being such a worthwhile project

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>>56523043
Volume REMAINS elevated, 170 resistance looks unbreakable with bull market conditions. We going higher- they will simply run out of Monero to sell at these volumes. I heard Binance stopped withdrawals again. Reminder to withdraw to your own custodial wallet

>> No.56538762

Okay I need a hand here.
What is the actual point of even using this? Like I understand buying drugs online, and it has a use case for illegal shit.
But genuinely, why would you ever turn your money into this for any other reason that buying drugs which you can likely be purchased far more safely with cash anyway?
It's a cool piece of technology, but turning your clean money dirty is pretty pointless, if you aren't getting paid cash the government already knows your income so it's not really good for hiding it.

The only investments you could buy with this stuff is other cryptocurrencies, which you could then sell for more monero. But you have to hope that your crypto investment wasn't dogshit, and you aren't getting fucked by fees through some anonymous exchange.
Cool I've turned a bunch of my money into a crypto asset not subject to capital gains tax, what now? Can't buy shit with it.

Can someone explain what the point is?

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>>56516810
>

>> No.56539372

>>56537299
>lack of funding (due to a weird funding system)
funny that you mention it. we just got drained for 2600 XMR: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/916

>>56461296
Funnily enough, thanks to our weird funding system the lost money isn't a death sentence. Imagine if we had a 500 million dollar dev wallet funded by dev tax or premine :P

GG boys, better luck next time.

>> No.56539392

>>56537299
>lack of promotion, awareness and adoption
I plan on doing my part by making 1 QR path saying ,Got Monero?" with the QR sending the scanner to getmonero.org, and the other patch saying "Send Monero" with my wallet QR code; and will wear them on my jacket when it gets warmer out next spring. May as well spread Monerochan irl
>>56538762
>the only other investments you can buy with Monero is other cryoto
Wrong, you can buy Gold and Silver at several bullion dealers (MoneroSilver.com), and you can buy food if you do some local networking with farmers and urbanfags

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>>56539392
and collectible fumo!

>> No.56539609

>>56538762
The point is to overthrow the fed and the state monopoly on money. This is not possible without privacy in transactions. Information is extremely valuable as a means of state control. If they can know you did something, they can demand taxes for it. The state will never allow cryptocurrencies to reach their full potential as they'll demand taxes for them that they do not demand for using the currency they control. They want you to track all transactions you make and pay income or capital gains (on top of sales) taxes if you buy a burger. You have no choice but to comply if you use Bitcoin or any other clear blockchain, there's permanent, definitive evidence. There's a slight wrinkle in that they need evidence that associates you with a particular address, but KYC solved that quite easily. The exchanges are in on the racket as agents of the state making money on people trading bullshit.

If you add in privacy (plausible deniability) to the equation, things drastically change. It can be difficult to get the network effects going, but it becomes technically feasible to transact completely outside of the state's control. They don't control the currency itself (as they would with cash) and they can't look in to see what people are doing and punish them for it.

If everyone used XMR it would be impossible for the state to passively collect income taxes, for instance. It would force an inflection point, either they reveal themselves as the criminal thugs they are, or we are released from their control and they need to find something else to do. XMR is the only crypto that is a genuine threat to the state. That is why it is rarely mentioned, and blacklisted most places. They want to give you this impression that it is "dirty" or "risky", it is bullshit, they're afraid you'll wake up to the potential it has to escape the debt slavery the state keeps you in.

>> No.56539705

>>56538762
>far more safely with cash anyway

do you have reviews for those drugs?
do you have to meet some shady guy in person?

safety is one of the main benefits when buying from a DNM.

>> No.56539734

>>56539476
Based

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>>56539476
>shitty photo quality to hide the certificate number
smart move

>> No.56541175

>>56539372
>https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/916
holy LMAO
see this shit is absolutely unacceptable

I'll start praying someone like Kim Dotcom is willing to take charge on this project

>> No.56541198
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THE FUCKING CCS WALLET GOT DRAINED!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

IT IS SO OVER FOR MONERO BAGGIES

>> No.56541430

>>56541198
>THE FUCKING CCS WALLET GOT DRAINED!
not my problem

that's why you don't work off gibs and donations, my Monero is still intact. based hacker.

>> No.56541458

>>56537299
Yes, sir, your are bloody right! This token is NOT needed. This is not how business should be done. Where is IPO? Where are directors? SCAM!

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>>56541175
holy shit. how the fuck did the wallet got compromised?
if the people behind monero can't even keep a wallet safe then what can we wait from normal people?

>> No.56542106

>>56541198
Inside job 100%

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>>56539372
>>56541175
>>56541198
Look, I'm a monero extremist as much as anyone else in here but this shit is beyond fucking disgraceful. The CCS needs to be burned to the fucking ground and remade and managed properly from now on.

>> No.56542797

>>56539372
Am I reading this correctly?
>funds kept on a machine with an internet connection running windows 10

I know that even the best and brightest of us are prone to opsec mistakes but holy shit.

>> No.56543883

Wow, lot of fud recently, success really does breed envy.

>> No.56544092

>>56541198
wtf is this?
inside job?
how much are we talking about?
who tf is going to donate to ccs now?
lick me

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>>56542797
He was running a full node as well on the wallet machine. In this day and age if you are going full custodial it needs to be on an offline (cold) wallet. The only good news out of this is they at least didn't get drained out of the general fund as well. Luigi must be a zoomer, very little opsec awareness apparently.

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What should the penalty be for stealing from the Monerochan community?

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>>56544660

Thieves get the moonfag treatment.

>> No.56545062

>>56544092
Fluffypony got greedy. Maybe his notorious orgies with thai hookers are getting expensive and he is strapped for cash.
At some point the devs will sneak in some inflation bug in the code and rugpull everyone. Monero has always been run like a mafia.

>> No.56545161

>>56545062
>NOG ID
kek

>> No.56545387

>>56541198
Dafuq is ccs wallet, what are the implications?

>> No.56545417

>>56545387
Oh shiet so it is the way they fund updates and shiet. This means monero is facing a serious problem actually people who won't get paid to work would not work on it uh oh. A small bug might fuck this whole XMR thing up because no one is there to fix it.

>Luigi logs into CCS wallet to top up hot wallet, finding (after syncing from May 10th as expected) a balance of ~4.6 XMR
Imagine, assuming this nigga luigi isn't the one who stole it, what he must have felt like. I lost 5k gambling on shitcoins and felt like dying lol. I cannot even begin to imagine what this nigga went thru.

>> No.56545502

>>56545387
>CCS
it's an acronym for Community Crowdfunding System
extremely retarded verbose name and it's not even like CCS is a common type of system or acronym, yet they use it as one

honestly everything except for the actual Monero blockchain tech is just dogshit, none of Monero comes off as professional or representative
I understand this is due to the fundamental issues of open source projects without leadership, but the community should really look in a mirror whenever they're shitting out more and more generated 'Monerochan' pics and thinking they're actually contributing instead of degrading the project

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>>56545502
Don't worry, Monero is so transparent they already traced the hacker and they're just gonna ask exchanges to freeze the stolen funds.

>> No.56545721

>Just to add to this, it's entirely possible that it's related to the ongoing attacks that we've seen since April, as they include a variety of compromised keys (including Bitcoin wallet.dats, seeds generated with all manner of hardware and software, Ethereum pre-sale wallets, etc.) and include XMR that's been swept. See tayvano's thread here.
>https://twitter.com/tayvano_/status/1696222660013998407
I already podted this to other monero hack thrrad but want to post here too cuz I am a little spooked. Should I just get a new hardware wallet or smt?

>> No.56545810

My poverty stack is more secure than the CCS lol

>> No.56545983
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this is treason

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>>56545387
>>Dafuq is ccs wallet, what are the implications?
>>56545417
>This means monero is facing a serious problem actually people who won't get paid to work would not work on it uh oh. A small bug might fuck this whole XMR thing up because no one is there to fix it.

Ain't no thang. The General Fund holds over 8K XMR and pending CCS payouts amount to only 600 XMR, so that shouldn't be an issue. I expect we'll soon get another generous donation from an anonymous whale to calm the waters and all will be well again.

Going forward, lesson learned: the fund handling protocol will be revised to use air-gapped offline signing, the thief will get away with it and fluffypony will have a cloud of suspicion hanging over him basically forever.

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>>56545689
>Don't worry, Monero is so transparent they already traced the hacker and they're just gonna ask exchanges to freeze the stolen funds.

>> No.56546567

Ĝi estas finita

>> No.56546801

>>56545689
This incidence might be able to show how private Monero really is.

>> No.56546892

>>56546801
*incident

>> No.56547366

>>56545689
kek what? he started moving it to exchanges already? if true, what a retard

>> No.56547523

>>56544779
all joking aside, thats so fucked up.
just shoot the poor cunt

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Confidence in Monero remains high. Not even a real dip after all the uninformed screeching about Monero being hacked. Volume remains heavily elevated apparently bull market conditions are ongoing. Volume doesn’t appear to be organic, just speculative, due to transactions per block remaining steadily higher but not significantly different. Monero is going to the moon, and soon.

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>> No.56549117

>>56546417
>8K XMR
its insane when the dev funding team holds less xmr than most early adopters even people like me who already lost faith in this cursed network.

its unfortunate that privacy is the hardest field of cryptography in crypto right now while monero developers are probably in a financial and intellectual minima.
it's almost a certainty at this point that seraphis won't materialize the same way ethereum sharding failed. think about how much money the zcash devs have burned from their 20% premine and how little their initial technology has progressed.

without an order of magnitude more funding in order to attract some actual development talent monero is going deteriorate to the point it's no longer safe to use even for legal purchases.

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>>56546417
>I expect we'll soon get another generous donation from an anonymous whale to calm the waters and all will be well again
INB4 the hacker himself realizes "I must use the Monero to fund the Monero"

>> No.56550060

>>56546417
Holy cope, weren't you shitting yourself a few months ago when that one Bitcoin dev got his wallet drained?

>> No.56550160

Couldn't google and the cia have drained the bitcoin, etherium, monero wallets, maybe they are just trying their Quantum computers on CryptoCurrencys

>> No.56550265

>>56545502
>none of Monero comes off as professional or representative
Justin Berman is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYzZ1DzSWCY

>> No.56550300

>>56550160
Then the CIA would drain the General Fund

>> No.56550397

We are in the endgame for custodial funds. There is too much uncertainty for large transactions unless you a) run your own node. And b) keep wallet offline (physically incapable device with no WiFi card) and use for signing transactions. That’s it. Not hard, and ridiculously secure.

>> No.56550518

>>56549117
> monero is going deteriorate to the point it's no longer safe to use even for legal purchases
This is not how it works and you do know it. FUD to your heart's consent, though.

>> No.56550533

got zcash or dash fund got ever drained?

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Anyone else notice that the ticket for the attack https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/916 disappeared/became private? Was watching the discussion about XMR's traceability, after the latest refresh I get a 404 instead. Did they just move the ticket, or are they trying to hide how badly they fucked up?

>> No.56550777

>>56550648
It’s back lol sorry anon but GitHub itself was down affecting ALL repos apparently. (Definitely my work repo) Luckily no one works on Friday afternoons but me and people barely noticed apparently

>> No.56550782

>>56550648
>404
the github is having trouble. I had it too. Refreshed like 50 times and got back again. They did not hide it (yet).

>> No.56550805

>>56550518
>This is not how it works
oh but it is, if you knew anything about the blokchain you're a fanboy of.
you can only increase the ring size so much without major cryptographic changes that match the effort implementing full membership proofs would.

its easy to hide when no one is looking.

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Been out of crypto space since ‘21.
Just bought 30 XMR. Gonna buy more soon lads.

>> No.56551724

>>56461296
i want to buy LTC on changenow.io to exchange it to monero, but no matter what currency it wont calculate if its under 30 dollars what im buying. is that the same with u guys? i dont have that much money and just want to buy with 15 fucking dollars D:

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>>56549117

It's truly over.

>> No.56553298

life is great
i'll send .03 to the first address I see

>> No.56553369
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56553369

Strap in, Tether has just printed another $1 billion USDT out of thin air.

>> No.56553486

>>56461337

>>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill

still haven't added the spam drama? https://medium.com/@bacon8227/pirate-chains-0-45-spam-attack-2-months-later-fc351ff3c254

hilarious on multiple levels

>> No.56554102

>>56545502
> it's not even like CCS is a common type of system or acronym, yet they use it as one
why is this even a criticism lol. the name is fine.
>none of Monero comes off as professional or representative
what are you expecting? diversity hired marketing videos with goy slop to feed you? most of monero's developers are not trying to impress anybody for whatever reason. It works and that's all it needs to do.
>>56553486
Insane. They are still vulnerable too.

>> No.56554285

Al-Aqsa Monero Brigades have reportedly began a counteroffensive and taken out several Merkava tanks.

>> No.56554315
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It would be funny tho if they end up tracing the funds to Luigi
These guys seem to know a thing or 2 about tracing. Definitely some lessons to be learned, thanks to Luigi. https://moonstoneresearch.com/2023/11/03/Postmortem-of-Monero-CCS-Hack

>> No.56554413

NEW THREAD: >>56554410
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>> No.56555530

>>56553298
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>> No.56555629

>>56551097
> He disclosed

>> No.56555869

>>56531815
What use would that have?

>> No.56556395

>>56536883
What do you mean? XMR is the only crypto currency I can name that's actually used frequently by a lot of people.

>> No.56556494

>>56555629
I didn’t disclose my total qty nor did I purchase it in one order