/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56496435
An essential watch for anyone who's interested in what the owners of the world have planned for us in the near future.

https://youtu.be/DBkNJ7eaR20

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cede_and_Company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depository_Trust_Company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depository_Trust_%26_Clearing_Corporation

>>56496435
>Panda Edition
hey hey hey rarwr!

>>56496435
ello ello

>>56496435
OOF!

My dream of getting black Friday cheapies again is over since the prices have gone up. Guess I'll have to settle for table scraps like 40% ikes.

>>56496546
Have you exhausted all spot deals?

>>56496572
better just cool it with the antisemitism, anon.

>>56496583

>>56496546
Redpill me on Ike’s. I’m spending too much on commemoratives right now in a pathetic need to scratch the itch with the lowest buys possible.

>>56496587

Silver dollar best dollar

>>56495107
You can usually find some kind of 1 oz coins for less than kilo bars.

paper art

>>56496587

>>56496655
I bought some cheap beer that I thought was Mexican. Turns out it's Guatemalan but it was still good.

has a single person who posts here ever paid more than $1600 for any 1oz gold coin? genuinely curious.

>>56496673
cant say I've ever had Guatemalan beer.
Corona is probably the closest i ever got, lol

RCM gets so close to greatness while completely missing the mark

>>56496706
yeah ship is great.
too bad about the reptile on the other side

based panda general

>>56496655
nice, makes me want to pick up more

What’s your average price for a peace or morgan? I’m pissed that these were pocket change for boomers.

>>56496753
I've paid $25 to $35 in the past 2 years. I own 13 and don't plan on more.

>forgot china shills tungsten and zinc pandas in /pmg/ around the preorder and release dates
will be a shitty month or so

>>56496772
I think I have around 15? The premiums hurt too much to justify but they’re so damn pretty.

>>56496722
Who cares about the monarch? I’m just disappointed they went with 1/2 oz gold for 1440 instead of making this a silver series you could get some serious collector interest in.

>>56496753
Picked up 1 of each at the shop for 25 each.

>>56496788
what quality were these? i haven't had much luck finding bu coins for under $45 or $50.

didn't even know this was a thing: https://www.goldeneaglecoin.com/item/somalia-1-oz-silver-elephant-2023-rabbit-privy-mark

>>56496856
>that premium
Ouch.

>>56496863

>>56496868
I do like me some Golden Eagle though.

>>56496904
Me too but their premiums can suck at times. Stout gold is a lot better for premiums on popular coins, but they just don't offer as much.

>>56496559
I want high premium gold my nigga.
One of these days I'm getting the 10g bar at spot though. Almost did last black Friday but went big got a buffalo instead.
>>56496619
I just like em.
you can scoop them up for spot or under spot if really lucky. If normally lucky, you can get them for close to spot. Way lower premiums than normal junk silver. Probably due to low purity.
I even like clad ikes, those can be found for face or slightly above it. Just a fun design and makes me think of the 70s, which was a cool era imo.
Ikes are definitely cheaper than commemoratives, and there's the bicentennial ikes too, which is a commemorative.
A lot of silver ikes are still in the original mint packaging too so they're not ever worn down like morgans etc.
The only downsides are low purity, it's kind of an obscure coin, and it's harder to tell if it's silver or not (if not in mint packaging)

>>56496946
I'm pleased with my order from them and I'd return as a customer, but they need to lay off the stickers. I don't want extra premiums for advertising for them.

>>56496975
*from Stout.

>>56496794
just stack some Pandas

>>56496856
Privy marks are added to many hum-drum regular issues to jack up the price. Retains the coin's recognition and yet adds numismatic value for little added cost to he mint.

>>56496841
I spent upwards of 55 on decent quality coins with solid details and little wear. I haven’t gone full retard on a BRILLIANT SHINY I KNOW WHAT I GOT in a while and don’t plan to. Been getting grilled o commemoratives lately after finding solid deals back in April.

crypto nerds will seethe

https://archive dot ph/2CmzH

>>56496981
lmao i was thinking "i wonder if he meant stout" after reading the sticker comment. they really do send a lot of stickers

>>56497008
have they been releasing those for the elephants for a while then?

Why is pmg bad at making GAINz? 1) They form a core belief about silver stacking based on articles read on biz or some guru on tiktok who lays out a very bad reason why they must buy silver. 2)once that mindset is formed (muh comex muh brics muh collapse muh hyperflation), it’s ogre. “Whatever belief gets planted first, that’s the one that feeds the brain worms 3) They lurk pmg and consume scam articles/websites posted by MintScamAnon or Peter Shifty that would lay out why silver is needed like "it will cure virginity". Breaking down the COMEX inventory(or lack thereof) and showcasing why, if something appeared bad, it was actually good for the long term prospects of silver. ie - the one you see most often “there is no demand for silver... which will benefit them long term if demand for silver magically happens” That cost them hundreds or thousands over the years in premiums. 4)opposite opinion articles wouldnt change that initial seed about BatBois even as demand for WAAGMI shitcoins craters. 5) The euphoria of a small quick gain in spot price of 24 cents keeps them attached and copeful, 6)They get in silos and identify as a losers club. It “feels good” to surround yourself with other losers cheerleading when your investment is tanking offset by the dopamine hits of someone poasting the gold plated PickleRick they lost $1400 on. 7)Nothing change their mind even a collapse of their wealth, over a long period of time. Do people make money from trading in stocks/crypto/options? Yes. But, FAR more people lose their ass by slurping silber at huge premiums. Remember, the ones who “claim” they crush it are A) lying OR B) are lying. pmg seems to be notorious for pushing crappy narratives to lose money. Be careful out there! I have found the best way to build massive money over long periods of time is 1) Don't buy silver 2) Don't buy silver 3) Don't buy Chinese made ashtrays made out of fake Spanish dobloons.

>hundreds
>over years

>>56497341
didn't read still stackin those sexy silver atomz

>>56496435
https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/Black-Hate-Broadcast_1:d
Whites are said to dominate the silver bullion market in the United States.

Anyone ever have a custom silver round made for them? I wanted to have one made but I can’t seem to find a company that will do just one coin

>>56497472
talk to mintanon or holoanon

>>56497472
not sure if you can only get one made, but these guys do custom coins: https://osbornecoin.com/

>>56496856
I was lucky and got one for just a couple euros more than the normal coin.

>when the shill posts a word salad wall

>>56497120
>for the elephants
The only other I can definitely say was 2018, an anniversary edition. Alas, I don't have a specific photo of it. I'll work on that maybe tomorrow.

>>56496701
For the price I'd buy it again. There's these 4 pints of German beer I like that I get from the same place. Those are my go to.

>>56497647
There's a 2017 elephant with rooster privy mark. I bought that one too, but it costed me more because it's an older coin. But ironically it costed less than the regular 2017 elephant. I don't quite understand, but I'm not complaining. Same story with this kook also.

Infrequently posted tier chart.

Slurped my final commemorative until payday. Will fill my bedside cup with them, fondle them like a low functioning autist, and stack them in cigar boxes when my cup runneth over.

I wish all my /pmg/ frens a warm evening as winter starts to show.

/smiggers/ bout to start movie night

>>56497883
>as winter starts to show.
It's still autumn by me, some green on some trees even.

>>56494570
>I was thinking more of a cotton swab with some fuming solvent applied only to the crud. Acetone or alcohol or gasoline or toluene.

For coins which have grease, oil or wax from excessive fondling or soaking in olive oil or applications of microcrystalline paraffin Renaissance Wax I soak them in acetone. Never had any problems doing that with silver, copper, and copper alloys. Depends on the patina and the type of crud, but often when those oils saturate grime it darkens and kinda blends in with the actual surface of the coin, so dissolving it with acetone makes the contrast more clear and the cleaning job a bit easier.

>Thank you for your advice, I have a bamboo skewer I used with some success on the previous Bucktown tokens. I'll start with that and work up to copper wire and maybe the steel nail on the more solid areas.
That's what I'd do
>I don't want to make the thing worse, but that's balanced out a bit by the fact that it's already in AG-cull condition and the value of the coin is based on its identity rather than condition. I could melt half of it with a torch and it would still be worth a few hundred dollars to over a thousand so long as it could be identified.
Yep I definitely understand this, one of the benefits of your token collecting niche that doesn't really carry into mainstream numismatics. Start cleaning the spots away from that quadrant of the token that is most corroded to get a feel for the surfaces and behavior of the crusty grime. With your hands calibrated by working the other areas first and a little extra care you'll avoid accidentally chipping off unsightly chunks of brittle metal when you get to the fragile zone

>>56497907
We’re getting frozen rain and it’s done already. My thorium bonfire wood is wet. It’s Christian bibles and cardboard from Amazon for Samhain.

>>56497907
Trees are still mostly green but we’re having some stupidly steep climbs and falls in weather; freezing rain tomorrow after a week of wet and warm 80 degree swamp ass. I’ll take the cold quiet mornings with coffee over my silver being delayed.

there's already fucking snow here before halloween. gonna be a long winter I guess

>>56498009
I’m transitioning from daily slave pay to salary in the next week and every shit weather day is a paid pass to beat my meat and slurp silver.

>>56497942
>thorium bonfire

You have my attention glowanon

>>56498009
best not be. i don't feel like putting snow tires on for another month at least

Trolling eBay and found that Mexicans have a weird respect for their US neighbors. 12 oz silver “Salute to the US Constitution.” Between this and the 20 Balboa I gotta respect Latin America and their flamboyant theatrics.

>>56498019
hopefully a nice pay raise

>>56498054
but if I buy snow tires how then that's $1000 less I can spend on silver you know

So we have seen some of the most erratic whip saw movement in a while this last few weeks, I think that next week will really drive home a "new normal" on the economic front.

Mainly that despite all the media carrying water for the various parties, people are still quite aware of their financial situation being absolute shit.

We are also approaching the point where gold and silver are again becoming a "reasonable safe haven" that people should put 2-5% of their savings into, which is basically infinitely more then what people actually do.

>>56496435
I see your panda and raise you a kraken.

>>56498179
The masses are collectively poor, financially illiterate, and weak to herd mentality. The prosperity of the boomers blinded themselves and their descendants to any forward thinking save for the few that weren’t completely mindbroken by high purchasing power and credit.

The awakening that most will be forced to suffer will be biblical and makes me wonder exactly how far the chaos will go before order is once again established. Think of all the destabilization from the crippled nuclear family to ethnic replacement to collapsing economic infrastructure. No other time in history has seen something as profound, complex, and gay as our “advanced” modern age.

This is all what I tell myself when I buy silver.

>>56498200
checked+based

>>56498158
Stupid low pay until next year when I climb up the ranks but my cost of living is a tenth of what it was in the big city. Starting a small market garden next spring should help buffer my shitty checks until I’m making more.

>>56498187
What's a good capsule for those Canadian 2toz coins?

>>56498200
Yeah thats actually my primary concern, is that 90-97% of the population has zero plan for anything that is coming, if they are even aware of it at all.

This is going to be a novel situation. Best to stack metals, lolis and frens as always.

>>56498230
Shit I didn’t think about that. I’m going to have some toned krakens soon enough since I just left them in their little poisonous plastic after getting them.

>>56498246
Lmao silver scam victim knows everything . Knows muh collapse , knows how everybody thinks but doesnt know that it's le big dumb to pay 40% premiums on a shitty investment

>>56498200
Post ur losses, lmao these clowns who write dissertations about life and history and the future and all to hide the truth they lost 80% on a scam

>>56498270
nah modern flips are okay. its the pvc in those soft flexible old flips that kill silver. sadly my morgan was in one of those for a good long while before i bought her and it flattened some of her features.

>>56498302
You know you can just sell to somebody else at 40% premium right?
>inb4 you won't even get spot at a pawn shop
Duh, show me this magical store where I can buy any bullion without the premium

>>56498270
Same

>>56498230
The coin is 38.06mm diameter, so these would work:
https://www.thecoinsupplystore.com/products/coinsafe-1-oz-round-39mm-coin-capsule-rc-39-1?_pos=4&_sid=b47a95561&_ss=r
However, buying in bulk will get you a better price. So you might want the slightly larger:
https://www.thecoinsupplystore.com/products/2-oz-coin-capsule-for-the-queens-beast?_pos=1&_sid=b47a95561&_ss=r
but you'll need to ring that with a strip of paper (acid-free!!!) to prevent rattle. If you're truly autistic (as I am), you'll also get sandpaper and grind the heights of the inner and outer sections to make a snug vertical fit. They're both taller than the coins.

>>56498312
If the modern flips that silver’s sent in is safe why the need for capsules? Is it because they’re not air tight?

>>56498319
Lmao this guy doesn't even know what spot price means and thinks he will get all his immediate
40% losses back. Kektop who told you that mintscamanon?

>>56498331
>So you might want the slightly larger
... to accommodate future purchases of coins to give you leeway for different sizes.

>>56498319
Lmao part of why this is funny is yall act like you have to buy silver and you have to pay a 40% premium That's retarded there's 1000 things you could do that aren't as dumb as paying a 40% premium for a shiny rock if your imaginary collapse happens. Like you could have bought cans if sardines or any kind of food that increased in price the last few years

>>56498332
flips are cheap storage, suitable for shipping. capsules do protect better from atmosphere. i've considered just using flips but desu i have so few 1oz gold coins capsules is a good option. its not even necessary, given gold's inertness. if i bought meme silver i'd definitely put them in capsules. most of my 1oz ag rounds are in tubes and get handled without gloves. they're in pretty good shape and i do expect they'll show wear over the years but i dont care. most of my silver is in sealed 10oz bars. my fractional gold, LMUs etc are in the tube caps and a sovereign holder.

>>56498200
The dubs have spoken.

I only disagree with is the implication that there's some greater conspiracy theory. While I agree there's multiple conspiracy theories, I don't think there's any one grand overarching theory. The people in power act like idiots because they are.

We won't be among the (((whales))) when the Great Reset happens (unless you have 50k ounces of silver stashed away, see pickrel), but we won't be eating ze bugz.

We will watch the normies grovel for a Mercury Dime, and it will be cathartic beyond belief.

>>56498351
Realistically how long before silver coins get fucked up being in plastic sleeves?
Can they be brought back to their original luster?
Does anyone really care when it comes to selling them?

>>56498373
Lmao how much have you lost so far and why are you selling. Selling is smart by the way since silver doesn't pay interest

>>56498396
I have 700oz and in no rush to sell.
Just curious.

>>56498373
>Realistically how long before silver coins get fucked up being in plastic sleeves?
If it's an archival plastic, should be practically forever - a lot longer than your lifespan anyway.
>Can they be brought back to their original luster?
No.
>Does anyone really care when it comes to selling them?
Selling? No. But discerning *buyers* seek the best quality coins they can get, and are willing to pay extra for that condition.

>>56498431
Thanks mate.

>>56498434
One more tip if you insist on using flips only. You can cut one side to make a flap, and it closes real tight.

Someone post a 5g gold piece for size reference please. Preferably next to either a 1oz gold coin or 1oz silver coin. I’m tempted to buy a pamp horsey

>>56498402
Lmao you've lost $5000 in premiums. Should have invested in a real asset, instead of flushing your cash

Can decide if I want a 1/2oz Au Noah’s ark, or full ounce. I’m kind of a poorfag otherwise I’d go for the full ounce in a heartbeat.

>>56498492
Don’t worry about me,I’m good bro.

I just got my starter stack (45oz) 1 week ago and I keep fondling it every now and again. I can't wait to get more. How many times can you post pics of your stack, bros?

Also is it bad to buy less than 1oz of gold at a time? I was tempted by some 1/2oz coins but I want to stick out for a full ounce for some reason.

>>56498516
The fact that you fell for a schizo silver scam indicates ur not
>>56498537
Post pics daily we need new victims to keep the price up and coin merchants rich

>>56498335
>>56498351

You fellows need to take the lined chest pill. Also food grade plastic bags are a great way to store silver without spending 1$ or 2 extra for individual capsules.

>>56498465
The coppery LMU coins at bottom-right are 5.8 g. The bright gold trio among them are 3.4 g.

>>56496655
>>56496668

>numismatics

I guess it's good to have a reminder for when the fiat pyramid finally collapses, but it otherwise seems like a waste of time.

There are also too many people selling counterfeits, so you'd have to do hours of research for no reward. Stick to bullion.

>>56498560
If you're limiting the stack to generic bars or constitutional junk, fine. But a nice new coin or artful piece getting banged and scratched by some kiddie collector who has no concept of quality, I'll stick with protection, thanks.
This buggered coin is a great example of a coin disrespected, and the edits I made to the image to wipe the sins of the previous idiot owners away. How much nicer it is to enjoy a pristine coin.

>>56498563
Damn those holo kine bars look almost magical... is that just the photo are they that nice IRL?

>>56498605
They're interesting in real life, too. It's a 5-gram bar, and here's what it looks like with the camera shifted about three inches total, left-to-right. But for a bar that small, your really need a magnifying lens or loupe to appreciate tehetching.

>>56498623
>tehetching.
Dammit... *the etching.

>>56498623
thanks for close up

>>56498563
Thanks fren! I’m now very tempted.

>Open new /pmg/
>123 unread posts
>Search for 'rocks'
>Filter all offending IDs
>Only 90 unread posts now

Why is SD bullion so much cheaper than apmex. Should it make me wary, or is apmex just gouging?

>>56498679
SD bullion is fine I've bought from them multiple times

>>56498684
Did you test the products you received? I swear I’m not trying to fud. I just can’t believe I’ve been over paying so much on apmex.

56498663
Silver Scam victim figures out how to filter out rocks still can't figure out how to not filter out his $ on a scam

>>56498693
Wait till you see the prices on Bold, Monument, Liberty, etc. As for why, who really knows. Apmex has a huge facility in downtown Oklahoma City that probably isn't cheap to operate, among other things.

>>56496856
Wandered around a bit on their website to end up on the buyback page.
They got pretty decent buy back prices for anything gold and silver, i.e spot or slightly above for sought after designs. Then i scrolled down a bit and started to see the more "exotic" PMs...
To anyone tempted to do something they could regret, here is why you should avoid illiquid metals most of the time (tho it's not *that* bad for Pt).

>>56498730
Weeeeell shit monument metals it is then. Been saving up for a full ounce gold maple. Thinking about all the times I over payed (and subsequently, all the extra silver and gold I could’ve gotten with that saved money) makes me want to rope lol

>>56498733
good picture showing why you don't buy memeium metals

>>56496673
Did you ever consider cleaning them? They have little numismatic value, so why not, right?

>>56497933
>lovely photo anon
Cheers :-)

>>56497341
>They form a core belief about silver stacking
Some of us buy gold to reduce volatility of their portfolio. As this picture shows, it works: >>56496522
While the nutjobs are loud, there are different motivations for buying PMs.

>>56497632
>for just a couple euros
That is the point of Privy marks, innit

>>56498733
>here is why you should avoid illiquid metals most of the time

Like silver? Lmao 4 years telling you retards and you still get squeezed like grapefruits losing 40% everytime you buy shitrocks

>>56496646
Design is really off putting.
But its indeed the lowest silver i could find this weekend.

No one wants your junkmetal

People would literally prefer $20 or even $10 to an ounce of gold why would they want silver?

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1715097654504632434

>comments are gold....gold I say.....get it a triple entendre

>>56498844
If you bought 4 years ago you should be in the dark green by about 100%.
What is in it for you to tell lies on the internet?
Who does such a heinous thing?

>>56499019
Lmao you lost 80%. Everyone did, you are down hundreds of % against the stock market

>>56499381
>picks a rondam timeframe and claims he won
Gold beat the S&P500 in the last 5 years.

>>56499381
Gold has beaten the S&P500 in the last 15 years.

>>56499381
Gold has beaten the S&P500 in the last year.

>>56499381
Gold has beaten the S&P500 in the last 2 years.

>>56499381
Gold has beaten the S&P500 in the last year too.

>>56499381
Guess what gold has beaten in the last 20 years?
That's right, the S&P500!

>>56499474

>>56499381
Why are you so silent all of a sudden?

>>56499381
GUESS WHAT?! Gold beat out other investments like the S&P 500 recently.

Why do literally none of you buy gold/silver mining stocks?

Why don't you want lots of money for free?

>>56499506
Sweet, i never doubted it. Might sell some next week.

>>56499515
I can only speak for myself. Stocks aren't money. Stocks are paper promises. Promises get broken. When times get tough promises get broken frequently and with little recourse. Stocks can only be turned into money during times when promises are kept and confidence is high. Such times are probably coming to an end in the near future. Precious metals are money in hand and do not rely on promises.

>>56498792
I would say it is better as evidence that you shouldn't buy any precious metals unless you can hold them for the long term. Buying only to turn and sell for profit only works (sometimes) in volatile and fragile markets of paper promises and blips on a screen, not with real assets.

>>56499482
OK let's pick a long time period, gold and silver lose by 2 million %

2,000,000% lmao and kektoperooni

Lmao gold pays no rent, interest or dividends. Silver is even worse because retards pay 40% premiums

Also note you are lying mintscamanon who posted stock market returns not including dividends

Good time to remind yall that mintscamanon shills retard rocks 24/7/365 with his tripfag turned off then turns it on to charge you 368% premiums. Here he goofed revealing the shill operation

>>56499603
Lmao the longer you hold retard rocks the more you lose....you don't care about losing 40% premiums or 2 million % gains. No wonder ur poor

>>56499591
>Stocks aren't money. Stocks are paper promises. Promises get broken

Exactly as described here>>56497341

>>56497479
How do I get a hold of them?

>>56497482
thanks I'll check them out

>>56499667
why do you? to boost thread activity? strengthen stacking convictions? get people posting good info? you're wearing a mask

>>56499515
>Why do literally none of you buy gold/silver mining stocks?
Because none of us would own the stocks. Cede & Co own the property rights to most stocks in the western world, everyone else owns stock securities, meaning that when this shit gets taken to court on who owns what, the court will be giving ownership to Cede & Co. It's literally explained in this post here >>56496466

Filter the fudfags.

The fact that the stock market needs a government Plunge Protection Team to jump in with money created out of thin air to try and prevent prices from collapsing should be all the evidence anyone needs that it is not a safe place for the fruits of a man's labor.

The residential and commercial real estate bubble, inflated by credit money that is now being reigned in hard, is a black hole soon to swallow trillions.

Crypto is some kind of psyop casino.

And war, financed by US debt, is breaking out all over the globe.

Meanwhile, the central banks are buying gold at historic levels and JP Morgan, king of the bank mobsters, has basically cornered the silver market.

The uber insiders (and three thousand years of history) are pointing the way for anyone who can shake off the hypnosis of the professional liars in government and media.

Stack on, frens.

>>56499738
Lmao look at this FUD, don't buy stocks for a huge profit buy silver for a huge loss its Le Smart

>>56499747
Yes filter mintscamanon he wants to scam yo7

>>56499879
>Lmao look at this FUD, don't buy stocks for a huge profit buy silver for a huge loss its Le Smart
Not talking about profit, I'm talking about who legally owns the stock. It really is this simple. Cede & Co own stock property rights, everyone else owns stock securities. When it goes to court it will be Cede & Co who owns the stocks.

>>56500010
The Great Taking is a pretty interesting book. ON one hand it feels too impossible for the elite to pull off. However the banking system and federal government have already committed to going "all in" on this system that it probably can't survive without the dollar being the sole undisputed reserve currency. Without all of these systems keeping the leverage in place and securities propped up I'm think it will unwind and we're all going to find a metric fuckton of fraud in the market. I think it will be so egregious we could very well see a need for the feds to grab control of everything and then sort of redistribute things in such a way so as to allow themselves time to wipe clean bad debts and oversold securities.
The counterparty risk of the derivatives market is frightening. We all take it for granted that these instruments pay out, and that hedges in fact work, etc.
Banker ingenuity can not overcome market losses, they can only redirect them. This is why I am content to keep most of my money outside of the system. And what IS in the system are some mining stocks, meme stocks, and some dividend income stocks to pad my income in case this big event takes another 5+ years to unfold.

>>56500010
FUD

Everyone who sells stocks and makes huge profits gets the $$$$$. Unlike silver scam victims who all instantly lose 40%

>>56500067
>The Great Taking is a pretty interesting book. ON one hand it feels too impossible for the elite to pull off.
It's not impossible because the system is already in place. Cede & Co own the western stock property rights, everything goes to them because they legally own it all. Everyone else owns securities which is lowest part of the pyramid ownership. This is the own nothing be happy agenda that began in 1967.

>>56500114
>the smart people fall for the silver scam the dumb people get rich from owning stocks

>>56500114
I think it was set up this way so brokers could have more liquidity when it came to incorporating computers/electronic trading platforms.
I don't think a true monolith exists in America that can swoop in and slurp everything up in some legal fashion without there being a serious gay-op that simultaneously wipes out the internet/communication.
Even looking at the BBBYQ bankruptcy, there are so many lawyers and processes in the way to prevent even power-players like JPMorgan from impacting the system that they got sidestepped in the CH11 bankruptcy.
It is there. It exists, but I am not entirely sold someone can walk up and just take everything.

>>56498565
>Hatton Garden heist
nice. watching the movie now

>>56500160
>I don't think a true monolith exists in America that can swoop in and slurp everything up in some legal fashion
Read this screencap. Here's a snippet from the beginning of the article.

>Banks Forgot Who Was Supposed to Own Dell Shares

>Here are three stylized facts about stocks:

>1. Nobody owns stock. What you own is an entitlement to stock held for you by your broker. But your broker doesn't own the stock either. What your broker owns is an entitlement to stock held for it by Cede & Co., which is a nominee of the Depository Trust Company, which is a company that is in the business of owning everyone's stock for them. This system sounds convoluted but actually makes it easy to keep track of things: If I sell stock to you, I don't have to courier over a paper share certificate, or call up the company and have it change its shareholder register. Our brokers just change some electronic entries at their DTC accounts and everything is cool.1

>2. If you own stock in a company that gets acquired for cash, you can ask a court to second-guess the merger price and give you the fair value of your stock in cash. A court will "appraise" your stock and order the surviving company in the merger to pay you what it's worth (plus interest), which may be more or less than the deal price. But to get the appraisal, under Delaware law,2 you need to follow some procedures. In particular, you have to demand appraisal in writing from the company before the shareholder vote, you have to vote against the merger (or abstain), and you have to own the stock continuously from the time you demand appraisal until the merger closes.

>3. Every time Fact 1 and Fact 2 interact, the result is invariably nonsense.

>>56496587
same goes for crypto
kek

>>56500235

>>56496645
Jews invented the lathe?

>>56500247
Brilliant. Thanks for sharing, I've only just stumbled onto the fuse of the ponzi stock market so this is extremely useful.

What are the chances I will be able to buy an entire city block of houses in a decent neighborhood with this?

>>56496435

>>56500175
of course they all got caught eventually, lol. fuck

>>56500247
>reward is only $20000
He MuSt Of LoSt ALl HiS $$$$ oN the SiLveR ScaM

>>56496435
PANDAS !! This is the family photo as of today.

>>56496483
Herro fren

>>56496737
Cool stack guardian. I wonder if I can find a silver panda stack guardian. Where did you get it?

>>56497005
lmao

>>56497008
>order some silver maple culls
>one turns out to be a Titanic privy
I still wonder how this happened. It is not an accident, someone took a nail or screwdriver to it. Was it a little kid who had no idea what he was marking up or a pissed off woman doing it on purpose just to be a fucking cunt? I kinda get mad every time I look at it and I paid less than what a regular maple would cost.

>>56500270
The lathe existed before coins.

>>56500479
Close up of the gold pandas. Sorry my photog skills are crummy.

If you filter the fud, you can post whatever you want and he is compelled to respond but you don't see it. Dance little fud-monkey!

>>56500658
Props to anons who can take good stack pics. The glare of the lighting always makes them tough to capture. Plus my phone always does crazy things with the color saturation.

>>56500673
>>Prospecting
For me, getting the colors and surface texture correct of gold is very challenging. I've been trying to reproduce my technique for silver, but it doesn't translate well. I should really work on an entirely different paradigm for gold.

HOLY SHIT PANDABROS LOOK WHAT I SAW AT TARGET JUST NOW !! WTAF how can afford to give out free gold or silver in each box !!?

>>56500721
Yeah gold I find to be a lot more difficult to capture. It either comes out way too saturated or way too under saturated. When I try to tweak it in Photoshop, it usually ends up looking fake.

>>56500304
Slim to none. But you will buy freedom from slavery or labour camp for you and your loved ones, once the republicans get their utopia realized.

>>56500669
picrel is me, when i stubbed mi toe for the twentieth time at the same corner of the table

>>56500673
I just take pics once the sun went down, there is half an hour where enough natural light is there, but it's all indirect. I also take a lot of pics and throw away a few ;-)
Finally, i make sure there is no plastic around them.

>>56500777
>When I try to tweak it in Photoshop, it usually ends up looking fake
The secret is to not care that much! :-)
Did you get the free silver or gold coin?

>>56500875
>Did you get the free silver or gold coin?
This seems almost too good to be true. Let's find out.

>>56500875
No but I got a Bitcoin or two lying around here somewhere

>>56500875
>once the republicans get their utopia realized.
absolute cringe

>>56500898
Eating cereal for coins!
Life really is a fun ride!
Hope you don't get chinked and it's just a plastic coin!

>>56500898
kek it must be like a 1 gram silver coin, with a 0.00001% chance of being a 1 gram gold coin

>>56499515
you're not gonna get us to waste our precious capital on mining stocks, schlomo

>>56500929
>>56500941
Pandabros... I am literally shaking rn.

>>56500969
Take your time. Don't rush it.
Smell the card board, read everything on it. Bask in the colors, the ecowashing, the green value casting. Count how often the word organic is used!
Smell the peanut flavored wheat puffs, like really smell them, put your nose into the box and take a deep breath, transporting crumbs in the farthest reaches of your lungs!
Become the cat!

>>56500969
Right now i'm thinking it might be best to not reveal the secret of the chink coin just yet.
Maybe keep up the suspense and reveal the coin in the next thread?

OMG OMG OMG OMG !! Is that what I think it is ???

>>56500995
>>56501019
These organic peanut butter Panda Puffs smell so good. I don't think I can hold back my excitement anymore, anon.

>>56498601
megabased mspaint photo editing anon

>>56501114
Not gonna lie, that looks scrumptious.
I hope you get energized so you can compare your newest coin to the ones you already have, with a witty and wake mind.

>>56501120
It's a cool pic and a neat stack :-)

>>56501114

>>56501129
thx fren

>>56501114
reveal coin!!!!!!!!!

>>56501146
>>56501165
NO FUCKING WAY !! I GOT A QUARTER TROY ONCE GOLD PANDA !! PANDBROS KEEP WINNING !!

>>56501129
Awe, I totally would, but I'll have to get such a photo later, since I already corralled the herd back into their safe.

>>56501120
Dang that is a really nice photo. How do you get such great lighting indoors? Do you need a DSLR to manage the focus that well?

>>56501201

>>56501201
>NO FUCKING WAY !! I GOT A QUARTER TROY ONCE GOLD PANDA !! PANDBROS KEEP WINNING !!
NO WAY! THOSE CRAZY CHINKS!
And the same plastic packaging as your other coins? What are the odds!

>>56501201
>big scoops of puffs in every bite!
Yeah boi!
Woo hoo!

I'm going out to buy some Panda puffs today!

>>56497341
whatever all that said, I did not read
i like comfy coin stacking, simple as

>>56501286
That's just the packaging they come in from the mint.

>>56501341
Do it, anon! Every box is a winner. I'm going to make eating organic peanut butter Panda Puffs a regular part of my stacking strategy.

>>56501201
congrats on the tungsten pick up

>>56501201
fuck u larpin faggot kek

>>56501441
Maybe the Chinaman did him a solid?
Have you considered that?
Have you?
Huh?

Got my first 40% JFKs bought and I feel dirty. Such low silver but only a 1$ above spot for 3. Eh…

>>56501565
>40% JFKs
better than nothing. can you post some pics?. I'd like to see what the color on the edges looks like

>>56501565
you only bought 3?

>>56501687
>>56501690
Lot of 3 for 11$. Barely over spot and the first 40%er’s I’ve gotten. Cold and rainy weather means I’m cooped up eating too much, binge watching The Shield, and fiendishly scrolling through eBay.

hello

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_x8VswuLwU

>>56498331
I ended up getting a 5 pack of these
https://air-tites.com/products/ring-type-air-tite-model-x6d-38mm-white?variant=39418406633634

>>56501565
I've been tempted by those a couple times. A $10 roll is just a cunt hair shy of 3 troy ounces. That makes them kinda bulky for what they are, but the debasement is interesting in of itself.

>>56501874
>That makes them kinda bulky for what they are
I own one, is it worth having several as fractionals in relation to their premium?

>>56501735
they look nice

>>56501887
That is part of what makes them nice to slurp up. Nobody really wants them bad, so they do sell for cheap. It's not like there is much of any wear on them either.

>>56501760
This guy can be lucky he wouldn't end up with one of us.
It's interesting that most people don't know what a gold coin is worth or even is.
It would be interesting to do in different countries, like Germany, Brazil, India or Uganda, just to see if there are countries where people recognize the value of gold.
I know people in India take great pride in giving very high gold content marriage presents.
Will people in poor societies know value more than richer societies?
For some of them i feel sorry, a Leaf could make their life a bit easier for some time.
I would give that guy my pants for that coin. :-)

Do you feel it?

>>56496435
>have some war nickels I just picked out of loose change
It’s kinda cringe to keep them but they aren’t worthless

>>56502140
i have about 20 dollars face in war nickels

>>56501874
We talk about some schizo end of modern markets and the return to buying whores for silver dimes so a big hefty half dollar that was clad to shit does have some nice value to it.

>>56502004
Thnx bby

>>56502035
A video I watched after buying said the three best parts of 40% is that the premiums are low, they’re higher quality as one of the youngest junk silver coins, and you can stack a large amount of divisible 40% junk for cheap.

>>56502155
Here I am shitting about my 40s and big dick 35 comes in to flex with his stack

>>56502069
Maybe I’m biased but I feel PMs are currently seen in the same light as crypto was prior to the boom. Imagine trying to sell a BTC even when it was a couple hundred bucks for 20$ to a random normie. Explaining its value is lost as it’s not a phone or an overpriced purse made from Thai children.

If and when markets start to collapse and hard assets with limited annual production become one of the few means of preserving wealth there will be the same normie twitter posts crying that they didn’t buy silver or gold back in the 2020s.

>>56502225
whoa cool it with the antisemitism

>>56502236
Even if such an event happens
it's rare for people to admit they made a mistake by failing to predict the future.
And it's common for people to ignore the oversight and keep right on doing whatever they think is best.

this is perhaps the biggest reason metals are unlikely to trade as money in a future collapse. Nobody planned for it, and they're not going to participate in a system of trade that harms them and helps you. They have no reason to do that.

>>56501760
I'm going to go to where he does these (looks like SoCal) and collect the free gold. I'll just keep putting on different disguises too so he doesn't recognize me. I am curious though to what degree everyone just flat out says no based on the fact that he's filming them in what could be some kind of prank/spoof reel.

Am I missing something here when it comes to scrap silver? I'm buying pre-1920/pre-1947 UK silver coins for £0.49/£0.26 per gram including shipping, bidding on everything I see on eBay and picking up from local auctions.

I've got about 17kg/32kg at the moment, wondering if I just keep hold of it in scrap form or whether I should try smelting it into bars.

>>56502261
>in a future collapse.
Which may be as well be another 200 years in the future.
Don't for get the we all can be victims of bad news bias.

>>56502364
>for get
My daily ESL moment.

>>56502364
more likely in my opinion is that such a collapse never happens, because technological advances render current and past economics moot.

technology has a long history of taking whatever people worry about and getting rid of it completely.

>>56501201
lmao what the fuck is this?!

first graded rm should be delivered this week finally. yippie

>>56502361
There’s two sides to it; do you preserve the history and end up with shelves of spoons or do you melt them down into kilos?

If I was gifted a random box with scrap and it had no personal meaning to me I would find who could refine it for me and make some cool assed kilos.

My wife inherited some nice sterling from her mother and I won’t melt that.

>>56502361
broadly speaking, coins are
1. illegal to melt
2. impure, resulting in odd inconsistencies in the melt
3. impossible to legally sell once melted

the laws vary by location though.
personally I'd just keep them in coin form since those are a known quantity, while random bars of impure silver are difficult to measure and verify. Melting some would be fun for personal use though. If you're not worried about any difficulties selling.

>>56502466
What’s coming your way? Crusaders?

>>56502490
anon said "rm" so i expect nazi coin

>>56502490
i wish crusaders. this is coming

>>56502499
Oohhhh, sick. Send pics when it arrives.

>>56502399
True, but you have to account for retardation, a leader that thinks he can get more by invading his, in his opinion, weak and friendless neighbor is a good example.

>>56502453
They are giving out FREE gold or silver panda coins in Panda Puff cereal boxes!

>>56502490
Lmao crusaders yes you are on a crusade to be poor your whole life.....no he's waiting on his nazi coins which like an idiot he paid 1400% premium on because he's liw iq antisemite

>>56502499
speaking of nazi coins, i'm really tempted to buy this one. the luthers are already so overpriced that those and the schillers or dated churches seem like graded might be a better option.

https://www.ma-shops.com/hamiltonbowen/item.php?id=1926

did someone here buy that 2 rm i linked to on friday? i was going to buy it yesterday and someone beat me to it.

>>56502542
You're still thinking in historical paradigms

We're fast approaching a point where leaders will not be human, and retards will not be in charge of anything.

>>56502548
sir, i just started a new job that came with a $45k salary bump

>>56502236
I don't try to "sell" the idea stacking to random people. I already learned during the plandemic that they're not receptive to anything beyond what the MSM or other authority figure is pushing.
I tried to gently nudge my close relatives into stacking, but didn't have much success. But I'm not a pushy cat. I'm only adamant and relentless when it comes to myself. Others have their free will, and I'll respect it. At least I'll have lots of metals to share with them if they need some later.

>>56499515
I tried buying penny mining stocks and lost what I put in (which wasn't a whole lot, but still no fun). Once was enough of a learning experience

>>56502562
And you decided to throw it all away on illiquid shitcoins that you will lose money on? Not very smart you antisemite nazi larper

>>56502577
Lmao you don't have free will you just do what coin merchants and mintscamanon tell you. Have fun losing all your $$$$ and hoarding garbage rocks like a roastie hoards cats waiting for your imaginary collapse . When you die they will be dumped in a box with your tranime figurines and dropped off at the salvation army

>>56502635
contrarian behavior is probably the only good evidence of free will.

though as you say, it's possible anon isn't engaging in contrarian behavior, but is instead conforming to a group that engages in contrarian behavior.

Hard to say.

>>56496435
Do you guys bother timing the market when acquiring gold and silver?

No one here was researching investment ideas and said eureka these shiny rocks will make me rich.lmao they read something on /pol/ a forum for government propaganda and bored misfit losers. imagine taking advice from losers on how to be successful. Buying silver is the dumbest idea imaginable, right up there with nfts

Lmao and nfts were profitable for a few months no one gets rich off silver ever except the coin merchants

>>56502825
Buy high sell low like all bad investors, dumb question really because it presumes they are good investors who know anything and have skill when they are in reality broke brainwashed idiots

>>56502827
/pmg/ is quite a bit older than /setf/

you look like a newfag every time you confuse the two, or use plebbit language.

>>56502825
Metals are the definitive DCA investment. Trying to time any market is asking for FOMO.

>>56502609
no, we've gone over this. the. dividends pay for the coins. another $6k from just et coming in a few weeks. i'll make sure to post pictures here for you lmao lol

>>56502838
>>56502857
I'm personally all in BTC, but probably will sell some long term holds into gold/silver. Do you guys also diversify into stocks/ETFs? I'm not sure the argument against it

>>56502886
schd or similar dividend focused fund would be a good idea if you don't want the hassle of maintaining individual stocks.

>>56502886
or, if you sit on this idea for a little while longer, wait for a bigger correction in reits and also pick up a reit fund when yields are excessively high because of a sector-wide pullback

>>56502825
I put all my purchases in a spreadsheet, so i can tell what my average or last prices are. I have three rules:
1) Always try to lower your average if the prices fall unexpectedly
2) Never buy the top, only 10% or more from the all time high
3) Buy when you have extra money, but never touch your emergency fund
Not sure if i can stick to those rules, but i'll try.
I can save roughly 2000€ every month, 1000€ go towards ETFs, 1000€ towards gold. I'll buy every second month an ounce.
Soon i'll be able to save 500€ more every month, that money will go towards whatever is cheaper at the time, ETF or gold.

BTW, i'm fed up with the faggot, i'll start filtering now.

>>56502886
Why yes paying 40% premium for a commodity and sticking it in a drawer waiting for the apololypse until you die is Le Smart and how you will be rich young man

>>56502926
Whenever he shows up here you just know that the market is going to pump, so there is an advantage of him being our market barometer forcaster.

i'm already up on the gold coins i bought last month. does that mean i'm dying soon :(

>>56502839
Everyone is old like me and "bob" says the bloviating retard as he looks at pictures of tranime figurines, tranime pics etc posted by people crying they have to wait for their next paycheck to get scammed on a ricklepick token. Yeah they are all geriatric like you.. That's the fascinating part of pmg

>>56502910
Lmao yes take the advice of a guy who puts half his $$ into a rock.....no rent no interest no dividends no appreciation

>>56502950
Ah yes look mintscamanon is back to tell you it's smart to pay 368% premiums on a commodity and since mintscamanon is your fren he will sell it to you!

>>56497120
>>56497647
>I'll work on that maybe tomorrow.
Here we go....

>>56502969
Big tech stock bro doesn’t stfu does he.

>>56502978
i've never seen that one either. i like it! great pictures as always

>>56502955
It just means you have more gold than others.
As for spot, it may go up or down, but the amount of gold you have will stay the same regardless :-)

>>56502886
I’m stick to the most hard of assets; metals and land to grow food. Don’t trust anything I can’t touch.

>>56502825
>Do you guys bother timing the market
Kinda sorta. There are some items that you just know are going to sell out quickly and never come back until they're posted for way too much on ebay or similar (if at all). In those cases I throw all caution to the wind. Those pieces are usually disassociated with spot price and carry a high premium anyway.

>>56503025
of course, the same as any share that doesn't kick off dividends or distributions. that's why it is important to have multiple asset classes. the dividend payers get to do the dutiful duty of building my growth, metals, and cash positions.

>>56502910
pretty good plan. How much have you accumulated over the years? What's your end goal look like?
For me I've just bought btc while it's cheap, sold when I've made a few multiples, stay in HYSA, rinse and repeat but now I'm at 6 figures, so next time I sell btc probably will diversify to metals and ETFs. Still debating whether just sticking with ETFs though. It's worked well enough for most people I've met that retired early in the past decade or so

>>56502989
Thanks Anon.

>>56503093
I just started in July, 7 oz gold, 75 oz silver. >:-)
So while my plan may sound clever, think deeply about what i wrote, and whether it applies to your situation.
I never thought about alternatives to cash for my portfolio in the past, i just bought ETF, bonds and kept cash.
I'll replace the bonds and cash with gold from now on for the next years. Not selling the bonds i have, but not buying more either.
The BTC craze went over my head, bought some sats in 2013 in Berlin at the Computer Chaos Congress to buy coffee and pizza, but that was it.
I also think about buying some woodland to lease out and maybe camp in :-).
I think it's wise for you to have a bit of everything. ETF turned out great for me and i strongly believe it will in the future. Unless you are very poor, you don't have to risk putting it all into one asset class, you can afford to diversify.
Early retirement will not be for me, i started twice over, with two families, it drained me financially, twice.

>>56503208
Looks like you are investing in lard to go with your garbage rocks keep stacking gold though I'm sure when muh collapse comes you can buy food or if not just eat the fatty

>>56503031
>There are some items that you just know are going to sell out quickly and never come back until they're posted for way too much on ebay or similar (if at all). In those cases I throw all caution to the wind. Those pieces are usually disassociated with spot price and carry a high premium anyway.

Lmao you could be talking about beanie babies, funkopops, nfts or mintscamanon rounds. Thanks for the giggle it's fascinating that you believe all that

>>56503208
s e x x o o o

Hey shill bot! Where's the proof that out silver and gold is worthless again?!

>>56503371
Yeah, it's a great Kayak. I also bought the 1 person version, 2400€ well spent.
Never forget that there are complex people behind any post.

>>56503411
>there are complex people behind any post.
Not if it's some half baked bot with only a limited amount of answers and pre configured insults.

>>56502957
>Everyone is old like me and "bob" says the bloviating retard
that's bob you're replying to, moron

another newfag mistake.

>>56502655
You're replying to an entity that's designed to waste your time, mate. You can't reason with it, because that's not its purpose.

>>56503420
>half baked bot with only a limited amount of answers
Fuck em.
Watch who posts gold or silver and everyone else can burn.

>there are complex people behind any post.
Not if it's some half baked bot with only a limited amount of answers and pre configured

Lmao that's you brainwashed idiots like trained seals muh collapse muh mercs muh hyperflation muh shineys just repeating whatever mintscamanon tells you

Guys, I really don't want metals to pump right now because I haven't finished building my stack.

>>56503509
Don't worry you have your whole life ahead of you of them not pumping

It's cute how yall love posting pics of the junk you get scammed on because that's literally your only return on ur "investment " since you all lose money and time

>>56503472
>Watch who posts gold or silver and everyone else can burn


Kek you think people who post a picture are special and have some fascinating insight.....you are correct they are 100% either scammers or scam victims......bad people whose advice should be avoided

>>56503208

>>56503509
Chillax m8, i have it on good authority that a post-Israel and an even greater post Ukraine dip for metals is coming before China gets real.
Cheapies are coming within the next two or so years, keep your powder dry.

You heard it here first.

>>56503208
sexoooo

Sure it’s 80% and Canadian but the Queen’s a cutie in these.

>>56503371
>>56503659
Mein broders

>>56503677
almost as good as this one

>>56503630
>>56503659
It's a Kayak frens. Calm yourselves ;-)

>>56503677
I would drag my dick through a mile of broken glas, just to hear her fart through a walkie-talkie.

>>56503677
YEAH
Love me Canadian silver !

Image limit reached. Gonna bake new thread.

>>56503701
:-)
(-:
The crowd is pleased.

>>56502825
I buy when there's cheapies, that's all.
What that means in practice is I buy gold krugs when they're under 1800 euros, and I buy wieners when they're under 24 euros. I don't even care about spot price or premiums, only the price I'm paying.

MIGRATE

>>56503726
>>56503726
>>56503726
>>56503726
>>56503726

>>56503722
Image limit reached can’t post my gladiator meme

Abandon thread, everyone!

I see the image limit is reached but it still feels wrong to not max out the thread itself

Two more

Goodbye panda thread.

And finished

>>56501201
very nice coin anon!