/biz/ - Business & Finance

>gold closing over $2000 and only going up
>silver on its way to $25 and beyond

Hope you anons bought the dip

why do you guys buy metals instead of gold/silver mining stocks?
You'd obviously make way more money with mining stocks.

Do you unironically think a total societal collapse will happen where you're actually using gold and silver to buy products and services?

>>56490879
can gayhorse anon please help this gentleman?

>>56490879
Market's closed for the weekend, go away

Plane niggas added to the stack. Gonna play historical burger Pokémon and stack em all before finding something else to direct my autism towards.

>>56485102
>>56486182
>>56486580
I don't get the meme of posting stack with hrt.

If you're new to pmg Threads please seriously consider that these threads are made by greedy silver merchants who want to sell you millennial rocks at 368% premiums. If something big is going to be happening, YOU WILL BE THE LAST TO KNOW. Only spend what you want to donate to your enemies! DO NOT BUY SILVER! Do not buy silver. DO NOT PANIC BUY SILVER! This is how you get ripped off. The first rule of silver stacking is do not buy silver. So what are these scammers doing? Telling everyone day after day about their stacks and to buy silver. Do they have anything to gain by recruiting more stackers? Yes they can sell you $100 of silver for $698 and then buy it back for 43 cents. If silver was such a good deal would they really be telling everyone?

See pic related the shill forgot his tripfag was on then he turns it off so he can shill his grift anonymously. Oops got caught this time

>>56490879
>You'd obviously make way more money with mining stocks.
kek'd through my nose and coffee went everywhere

I want it to go down not up

>>56490909
It doesn't represent /pmg/.

>>56490909
there's a reason it gets deleted almost always.

>>56490912
>>56490461

>>56490912
woh 43 cents!? thanks for letting me know, i was about to buy another 20 ozt. but i wounder, what should i do with the rest of my stack? i cant just sell for 43 cents, i should save it right?

>>56490879
>You'd obviously make way more money with mining stocks.
With metals my profit isn't taxed. Also I don't like Fiat.

>>56490924
I don't blame you and it probably will go down again but moments like these remind us why we do this.

>>56490953
Monero can't plate CPU pins.

>>56490858

I'm not selling

>>56490923
Where is your argument?
>>56490891
Where is your argument?
>>56490892
Where is your argument?
>>56490953
>taxed
So what?
You would make far more money in spite of the tax you would have to pay.

>>56490877
Yes fellow Stacker, slurped heavily

>>56490879
These retards are trying (and succeeding) to lose money. Lmao they pay 40% to 386% commissions, ON a commodity! Yeah I know it's le big dumb frfr dead ass no cap

Lmao they pay 368% commissions from their FREN mintanon who shills retard rocks here on pmg from numerous devices.

>>56490991
>You would make far more money in spite of the tax you would have to pay.
Would not. Historical evidence does not support this for the precious metals mining sector as an aggregate (like 1979s-80s). Only individual mining stocks outperformed obviously.

Also the dollar will be kill! Do you understand? Holding mining stocks would imply that I somehow believed in the system and all of this just being a ruse and after 1 or 2 years everything goes back to cosy USD Netflix.

Besides there is a chance that mines could be nationalized or something as has happened with many properties in south America.

>>56491035
It's Saturday in Israel rabbi. Better stop working or you'll need to torture a chicken again so god doesn't send you to hell

Why do they hate us so much that we can't even have a comfy Friday night /pmg/?

>>56490877
I missed the bottom, but got some cheapies a little earlier (gold < 1800 euros, wieners ~ 23.50).

>>56490707
All the other banks are hosed too. I just need one more cheapies so I can dump what's left in my account into silver before everything blows up.

>>56491063
It’s come in waves. I started stacking early last year and didn’t see anything like this besides shit flinging over the ethical integrity of posting stacks with anime figurines in view. I scroll by it, refuse to acknowledge our lovely Rabbi and his hate mongering, and continue to spread the holy gospel of silver and gold.

>>56491072
I have absolutely zero faith in anything I can’t touch. Saving up little pulses of cash to finish the last 20k$ worth of home renovations and after that I’ll be dumping most of what I make save for an emergency fiat nest egg into metals and farmland.

I'm the treasure-chest anon.
Months back my severely autistic son chucked that little chest.
I thought I'd gathered up all the silver that spilled, but while cleaning under my bed I found six ounces I didn't even know I had
It's like finding six $20.00 bills under the couch cushion.

I think I'm only gonna stack bars now boys. My life is changed. Still love muh Krugs, but the presence of the bar

>>56491104
That's a nice one, anon

>>56491104
Best bar I have is the St Helena East India bar even if Chuck's ugly mug is on the other side. They get to slurpable prices occasionally.

>>56491100
Just started working in a special Ed classroom and I respect your struggle and am happy to hear about the 6 oz surprise.

>>56491104
There’s a real beauty in having a big fuck off stack of beautiful bars. I’m a krug maximalist as well but 10 oz Asahi’s are my number 1 stacking bar and I’ll be committing to some cigar boxes full of them once I’m not making peanuts (god willing about 6 months from now).

>>56490931
Lmao you forgot to turn your tripfag on just like you lied about in this post

>>56490461
>>56490461

>>56491150
>being annoying is really the best the government can do anymore

>>56491061
Oh look it's another fake nazi trying the "hello my fellow teenagers" routine to scam right-wing kids into paying 368% premiums on a commodity

>>56491090
That's why you are broke. You fell for the 'its not real if you can't hold it' FUD.

Now they have your money, you lost 80% and are broke

>>56491167
Monkey Putin was good, I genuinely like that meme.

>>56490926
I think it does actually. Just like the gun posters and the toy posters, there is a subset of /pmg/ers thst post their HRT. Picrel is another one.

>56491174
>56491190
Since when was there two?
As if one was not enough…

>>56491235
You can tell by the bottles being different that it's multiple anons, which isn't surprising given that this 4chan.

>>56491063
They fear us.

>>56490961
Don't worry.
AG, AU, XMR, BTC
I have all my bases covered. My body is ready.

>>56491140
My lcs with the lowest premiums only had three 10 oz bars. I was surprised by how small and chodey the stacker bar from scottsdale was. My chimp brain instantly chose the emirates one just because of the length. I really want to get a cast 5oz just to fondle on the desk. Like my man said earlier, about the edges of the one bar being sharp and uncomfy, the round pour just feels so good.
Once you jingle your first stack, it's so hard to stop

>>56491226
>WW3 coin

>>56491235
>guns and PMs go hand in foot because guns protect PMs
>tranny fluids go together with PMs because terannies have a mental illness, like the jews whom shill against PMs
case in point, look at your ID, its describing your new york banking buddies whom are about to scramble themselves into sidewalks at terminal velocity.
enjoy your sheckle you neurotic demon.

crypto nerds will seethe

>>56491078
Too bad it could have prevented you from getting silver scammed and losing 80%

>>56491446
>how many percents? 10%? 20%?

>>56490879
>You'd obviously make way more money with mining stocks.
where's my promised monies?

Never forget that mintanon who shills garbage rocks here and refuses to buy an ad and charges his "frens" a 368% premium turns his trip off to shill and then on to charge 368% premiums

>>56491476
The way to make money on pmg is to do the opposite of what everyone shills here

Everyone says buy silver do the opposite be a scammer like mintanon charging 368% premiums

People shill penny mining stocks sell them short

Easy money taking advantage of retarda

>>56491438
Are you okay, anon? You seem unwell. Are you mad I left out the christcucks? There are a lot of different people who stack and post in /pmg/ (panda bros, ancients, etc.), you'd do best to get over yourself and just let people enjoy staking how they like. Least you make things uncomfy.

>>56491482
You should pay a bit more attention, IQ.. Mintanon always only tripfagged for stuff directly related to memecoins, then immediately went back to anonymous for normal shitposting. It's how you correctly use trips. It's not the first time he accidentally forget to remove his trip either..

Your D&C crap is really super low energy lately, you were funnier last year.

>>56490858
Any brands of rounds or bars I should look out for?

>>56491511
>It's totally normal and ethical to make 100 anon posts about muh collapse, muh hyperflation, buy now buy now must buy silver paying huge premiums is smart etc and then turn on your tripfag and sell the product you've been lying about all day to naive retards

Wow!

>>56491532
Asahi for spending for sure next to Mercs and such. They're desirable but don't have a lot of historical value at all but are recognizable enough to use for spending.

>>56491551
>>It's totally normal and ethical to make 100 anon posts
The projection is off the charts

Why won't the mintanon scammer buy an ad?

What does he do with your personal info that he collects?

Does he sell it to other scammers

Why does he turn his tripfag on and off?

>>56491560
Turn your tripfag on scammy and explain why you charge $80 for an ounce of silvee

>>56491574
he probably lost money on the first few strikes and has now discovered things like taxes and operating expenses and profits.

I mean, the IRS takes about half of what he makes, and he's probably getting tired of doing all this work on a voluntary basis while resellers and scalpers make 1000% profits off his work by doing nothing.

>>56491574
also of course $80 is dirt cheap for a coin that should easily sell for $250 on the secondary market.

I'm a businessman, if I were him I'd be charging several hundred per coin. But that's just me.

>>56491556
They look very pretty

>>56491551
Pretty sure if you are in full doom mode you don't buy memeround at x3 spot, you'll first secure the maximum silver bang for your bux.

Only once you secured your survival stack you can unwind a bit and pleasure yourselves by enjoying memerounds. Never seen mintanon tell anybody they should buy his coins to survive the collapse lol. Would be pretty counterproductive.

>>56491589
Why are you simping for a scammer and assuming a scammer pays taxes at 50% rate gee ur le big dumb or you are mintanon

>>56491597
That's bcuz you are a greedy jew. Charging hundos would be nonsensical and would kill memecoinage for him. Then a smarter anon would slip in the cracks and produce for 50 bux and mintanon would have lost all his audience to achieve nothing. Don't worry for him, he's already making a pretty penny i'm sure.

(and why the fuck would he declare anything? Fuck the IRS, i hope he does not)

>>56491605
>secured your survival stack


Kektop these retards have to believe the dumbest shit to buy the worst investment in history

>>56491597
each coin he does seems more complex than the last. gilded crusaders seemed pretty "cheap". $85 is still a pretty reasonable price.

Whoever invoked the tranny last thread I hope you're happy.

>>56491613
>>56491625
If someone else can do it cheaper, and wants to, they should.
But that person will also learn about taxes and operating expenses, and see their work getting resold for huge profits, and will also raise their prices.

I've looked into what mintanon is doing
I sure as fuck wouldn't want to do it. It's a lot of work for almost no pay catering to a bunch of whiney bitches that don't appreciate it. I can only imagine he's doing it for love of the board and the game. If it's a scam, it's not a very lucrative one.

>>56491628
>$85 for a $23 coin seems cheap

Lmao and in 2 weeks you will use it to buy a can of sardines after muh collapse

>>56491638
silver is $23

what he's selling is a shitload of his time and labor and experience.

>>56491628
I'm not buying one, and I haven't bought any of the previous coins, but yeah I wouldn't be selling them for that low.

>>56491635
unit 8200 got called in because reasons.

>>56491637
>see their work getting resold for huge profits, and

Kektop, greed and fear is all you shills have plus the $$$$ you scam

>>56491638
i'm not saying there's a collapse, and i'll be better off than most if there is. the government overpays for my contract. by a lot. ~$60 seems like a fair price to take the silver and put it into a form that pleases me. it's practically nothing. less than half a week's worth of groceries. and you make hundreds of posts about something so inconsequential, like it is going to impact how. much silver or gold anyone here buys. keep up the good work

>>56491655
I don't shill silver
I do buy and sell coins.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with greed, it gets a man laid and with any luck, comfy. You have to work for a living, you might as well work as little as possible for the biggest living possible. It's just common sense.

>>56491655
Like how dumb do you have to be to think that an ugly coin you can make 100, 1000 or a million of will go up in value....jeez i I almost feel bad for you retards

>>56491669
oldfags have seen those coins go up in value 100x in minutes.

>>56491663
You are so obsessed and afraid of a collapse you post about it here all the time and brag about losing 80%

>>56491637
meh that's because you burgers are super entitled with your mindblowingly large office wages for producing nothing (and doing nothing) most of the time.

Don't think it's much work, all you have to do is make the design, keep contact with the mint to be sure they don't fuck things up, then send packagings.. Then a bit of paperwork on top of it if he declared his side gig. I don't see where is it so hard "you sure af wouldn't want to do it"? I wouldn't mind personally.

I've a brother handpicking potatoes in frozen mud under the rain for minimum wage as i speak, pretty sure it's harder...

>>56491677
i mostly just post german coins and then stock purchases. i don't really ever post about a collapse.

>>56491672
>100x in minutes

Kektop, was that on The green gold plated ricklepick?

>>56491688
just save up and get yourself a rick

>>56491681
I didn't say it's the hardest job ever

I think after taxes it's probably less than minimum wage for a job that consists largely of mailing thousands of packages out and then doing a shitload of accounting.

mind-numbingly boring, and not nearly enough pay to get me to roll out of bed. But by now he's hopefully making enough off each issue that it's more than a side gig for him.

>kektop
Every fucking time with this guy

>>56491688
There was a gold plated pickle rick? Wtf. Anyone know where I can buy one?

>>56491688
that was the aputannia. A coin so ugly it was cute. The first issue, it quickly went from $45 original price to about $900 on ebay before settling back around the $450 mark where I believe it still sits.

other anons can correct me if I'm misremembering the facts of the event.

>>56491696
And yet you simp for the scammer for free?

>>56491702
I post and read here for fun.

And because sometimes I know something useful.

and what I know about mintanon is that he's not making a lot of money per sale and probably not making a lot of money on all sales. Even if he does, half of it straight up goes to taxes.

>>56491244
Look at the time stamps. It’s always been 1

>>56491696
>I didn't say it's the hardest job ever
fair enough

In truth, the best way to figure this out once and for good is to ask mintanon about his experience as mememinter. So if you read this post, don't hesitate to tell us how much work it is and if you consider it worth it as a career path.

That said, the most important part is to enjoy what you do, it's a bit boomie to say, but you don't count the hours if you do something you like (and i'd add : if you are your own boss). So i hope he likes what he's doing.

>>56491700
And did these tards not realize he can make as many more as he wants whenever he wants? Kektop these silver scam victims are le big dummies

>>56491702
maybe one day he'll stop scamming people with silver rounds and release real silver paper certificates

>>56491700
Nah that's pretty accurate. But it even reached 1600 at some point. Pretty crazy.

>>56491235
>>56491274
Where do these faggots live? I would love to liberate the metals that these subhuman degenerates are holding hostage.

>>56491716
iirc he destroyed the dies. Not sure.
>>56491715
>i hope he likes what he's doing.
me too, he keeps doing it. I assume he likes it.

>>56491709
>Even if he does, half of it straight up goes to taxes

Why do you keep lying about the taxes like you can't believe taxes in the usa are that high

>>56491715
>Just ask the mintanon Liar who fuds all day to scam you on shitcoins

How naive are you tards?

>>56491726
I run businesses. I know what the taxes are on a business or self employment.

You've got an automatic 15% self employment tax on top of your regular income tax. And that's not even counting what happens if he reports all that silver as business property, as it might or might not be.

>>56491720
Why would he when he can scam at a rate of 368% 9n garbage rocks
>>56491721
That's fake bids

>>56491715
>>56491724
It's fun, I enjoy doing it and taking part in the process. Running a business was always a dream of mine and this has been the perfect opportunity to do so. In the future I envision an operation of our own from blanking to finished product.
It's profitable but there's also things that come up unexpectedly, like the doubling of the price of gold plating because the mint decided to change processors for better results.

>>56491750
I'm happy you're having fun and accomplishing your dreams. I've enjoyed watching the whole thing go down. I used to get a bit annoyed when /pmg/ was full of several coin makers and constant posting about their projects, but it seems to have settled back into the good old rhythms from back in the day.

>>56491750
I respect the grift. Scam these idiots for every penny they have they love losing $$$$$ as long as they have their shinies. Mintascamanon is my hero

>>56491771
There was quite a frenzy in the early days until the Great Banning occurred. I think Newsanon was the peak and we've been coasting down that hill since then

>>56491750
>I envision an operation of our own from blanking to finished product
any idea on what kind of investment that would take?

>>56491774
I feel like you'd be happier going back to re*dit and telling them about your days trolling the wild criminals of 4chan

it's good to have you here though. The thread would be pretty boring without a useful idiot for everyone to disagree with.

>>56491789
No idea, and I don't know what I don't know yet about the complications of the die making process

>>56491779
Yeah, I took off for a year or so when it got a bit much. Just hid out over at /cmmg/. I didn't mind the coin manufacturing talk, it just wasn't my interest so much. A lot of people trying to ride your coat tails.

>>56491750
damn is that why the pirate coin has very little gold, kinda hope you would've made the pirate hat and jacket gold on the observe along side the pirate ship in gold on the reverse.

>>56491805
Holoanon and I seemed to be able to coexist pretty peacefully. I did inspire the mlp coin which I'm happy to forget

>>56491821
I'm not sure how heavily the amount of plating effects the price, there's still time to change how we want to do the gilding if there's consensus that there's not enough covered. I thought the small amount would be more tasteful like the Prospector but am completely open to alternative ideas

>>56491822
has anyone heard from hime lately?

>>56491822
I went rounds with holo a time or two, but I didn't hate him.
>I did inspire the mlp coin which I'm happy to forget

>>56491829
i like the gilding you have up now and also like how it is on these reverses. will be happy with whatever though

>>56491829
I like more gold on the coin, but then I'd love to see it struck on 1/4 oz gold planchet. That would really kill sales and margins but it sure would be a pretty coin.

>>56491829
are there die "levels" you can still go up from what you used on crusader? how big of a price jump / what type of improvement would that be?

Is Costco still meme'ing gold or what's going on?

>>56491859
I should ask if it would be possible to get a higher level of detail on the dies. There's the slight horizontal streaking that's been in all the rounds after Aputannia that I would like to see reduced. Crusader was also made as a deeper level of relief which increased the cost

>>56491833
Not for awhile

>>56489175
I love that bottle die! so cool! It's incredible you got both the plate and the bottle.

I think that token maker closed a bit before state prohibition in 1915. Their entire clientele was saloons and brothels, so when those became illegal they stopped working.

Here's the reverse of the Sammon token. A mix of corrosion and gunk. The gunk should be easy to clean, except where it overlaps the corrosion. I'll probably have to leave some of it in place, but it might be amenable to gentle chemical treatment in places.

>>56491749
>fake bids
Butthurt compels you to post obvious bait.
Welcome to the filter.

>>56491833
Last I heard was he asked me to photograph his Otoya rounds. He posted one photo, and I don't think I heard from him again. Hope he's okay.

>>56491510
>tranny
99% of you guys are authoritarian communists who want to ban private ownership of precious metals

>>56491962
you know a suspiciously large number of trannies.

>>56491951
Lmao you retards will fall for every scam you post pictures of your garbage rocks that you lost 80% on and ooh and ah at each other like trained seals. The only one on this board who makes money is mintscamanon

>>56492011
>The only one on this board who makes money is mintscamanon
some pretty big stacks here for a bunch of financial morons. Almost makes you wonder where they got the cash to buy all that stuff in the first place.

or it might make a person wonder if they thought about it.

>>56490903
You've convinced me to get a Libertad in my birth year. Beautiful pieces.

>>56491951
>mfw I bought 4 of those

>>56492014
Yes all the pictures are real of real stuff everone owns including the stuff you retards get scammed on the collapse is next week, brics currency, comex, mintscamanon everything is real

Lmao you scam victims are so gullible

>>56492081
so you think scam victims with no silver are posting fake pictures of silver here to what, trick other people into buying something they don't even have?

you're a fucking retard.

>>56492056
>low iq antisemite does something stupid

How much did you lose so far on that garbage, besides your dignity? Like what's the point of bragging about buying something

>>56492091
Look at this idiot >>56492056
Bragging he bought garbage he wants you to simp for him you naive retard why else would he post pictures over and over, cmon simp simp for him just like you simp for mintscamanon, tell him he's gonna make it in the collapse he's hero level cmon simp he's in your club of losers you must praise his nazi larp

Reminder, if you hadn't fallen for the silver scam you could have bought houses when mortgage rates were 2%, wouldn't that have been smart because you know hyperflation is happening in like 2 weeks


Kektop why didn't you buy houses? (Because you fell for a scam instead)

>>56492131
You're so dumb you make the nazis look smart.

>>56492145
let's see your mortgage.

I'm going to report your ass again if you don't show it. Remember last time.

>>56492145
I'm gonna go have a smoke

I want a timestamped pic of your morgage rate when I get back.

>>56492157
I'm not the one predicting muh collapse muh brics muh comex muh hyperflation muh mercs lmao those are all pushed by mintscamanon and believed by people who buy silver

$$$$$$ is king, holding commodities is le big dumb

>he doesn't buy PMs
Imagine wanting to stay poor. Lol, lmao even.

>>56492185
i used more credit cards rewards dollars towards my silber

XAUEUR is close to making an all time high! Feels pretty comfy bros

wtf is a kektop anway

>>56491035

>11 posts by this (((ID)))

>>56491167

Government?

>>56492448
>I used wealth to lose 40% instantly

Congrats retard, why brag about being le big dummy

People that buy a non performing asset want to be poor. The longer they hold the more they lose.

No rent, no interest, no dividends ====== looooooser!

>>56491716

Found the fag who is only realizing now how late to the game he is.

>>56491090
That sounds like a good idea.
I for one decided against owning a house or flat, so my money is all in ETF, i can almost pay rent and utilities with the dividends.
I also have an emergency fund and dump the rest of my cash into PMs, particularly into gold.

>>56490879
>Do you unironically think a total societal collapse will happen
It's possible, but unlikely.
But buying gold is better than having a large amount of cash unused or in bonds.

>>56490896
Didn't know they put Picard on a coin.

>>56486182
>/pmg/ has a bunch of transstackers called the silver sisters
I'm here for some time and never heard of that. It sounds like a forced thing.

>>56490957
Shiny!

>>56490989
Most of us wont, not as long as they have other sources of income.

>>56490991
>>>56490923
>Where is your argument?
>>>56490891
>Where is your argument?
>>>56490892
>Where is your argument?
Where is yours? You say some shit about 80% that is totally taken out of thin air and hope someone engages you in stimulating conversation over it? Are you daft?

>>56492532
>The longer they hold the more they lose.
I have exactly the same amount of gold that i bought, it never got less or more. What are you talking about?

>>56492555
Lmao how much did you scam these stackertards for

>>56492569
I'm not mintanon, newfag, maybe you would be less insulted knowing most of us have stocks, crypto, and real-estate assets as well, you no stack having gutter queer. We are not brokies like you.

>>56492584
Lmao all I see is broke retards crying poverty while posting pics of nazi coins, memecoins or just general silver shitcoins they paid 40% premiums for. Fact is anyone who ho l ds physical silver is le big dumb unless they have 10,000,000 in liquid assets you are all poors who got scammed

Looks like the same government shills that have been raiding /smg/ are also raiding /pmg/. The collapse is soon, brothers.

t. /smg/

It's over bros I finally see the light. I'm selling off all my trash boomer rocks for some cold hard cash backed by God and good ol uncle Sam. I'll be donating it all for our greatest ally Isreal and I'll suggest you do the same. It's not too late to get on the right side of history

>>56492698
I hope you go to hell schlomo

>>56492698
How much do you get paid to post this c rap

>>56490989
Based early bird

>>56492698
>le 40%er

>>56491290
I buy silver hearts for my wife on holidays and birthdays and shit and the bigger ones I’ve found, 4ish ounces and hand poured, are magical to hold. The autism that’s released when you get that first fondle stack is beautiful. You’ll be surprised how tiny a 5 oz feels compared to 10s or even kilos. A silver kilo bread loaf is special in its on right

>>56491638
>Lmao and in 2 weeks you will use it to buy a can of sardines after muh collapse
Just for the sake of argument, what’s the fella with no silver supposed to eat?

>>56492563
>that is totally taken out of thin air
How? Mining stocks typically outperform gold and silver when it goes up historically.

>>56492858
>Mining stocks typically outperform gold and silver when it goes up
"when" ;-)

Stocks don't serve the same function in a portfolio as gold. Gold, or cash, or bonds, are used to reduce risk, they aren't supposed to yield profit. You balance one asset class against the other to account for the high risk in stocks.
The fact that you only seem to optimize for profit and ignore risk leads me to believe that you are either 16 or a retard.

>>56492688
What are they shilling in /smg/?
It's too fast for me, can't keep up with /smg/.

>>56492796
That's the neat part. He isn't.
He is hoping the gubbermint bails him out.
Meanwhile, stackers feast on sardines!

>>56492924
That said, i thought i'm the outcast on /pmg/ because i still invest in ETF and only a small part in gold, which i then keep in a bank deposit box!
Turns out that 80% faggot is even more of an outcast. Even more than the transsexual men around here and they are almost universally hated.
Geez, how can you sink even that low?

>>56492924
>reduce risk
Why would you get excited about "reducing risk" instead of making a fuckton of money? lol
I truly don't understand you people.

>ignore risk
Everything is a risk. Gold is going to go up and miners will follow.
Even shitty juniors will probably 5x.

>>56491904
>Here's the reverse of the Sammon token. A mix of corrosion and gunk. The gunk should be easy to clean, except where it overlaps the corrosion. I'll probably have to leave some of it in place, but it might be amenable to gentle chemical treatment in places.

Yeah, I think it is a good candidate for cleaning. If it's not just an artifact of that photo it looks like it may have already been given a "gentle" chemical treatment, maybe a vinegar or lemon juice soak some years ago, which may be the reason the clean surfaces are a bit rough/pitted. I wouldn't soak it in any more acids, maybe dab a little carefully on specific spots if necessary but don't soak it. Because of the brittle surfaces I'd recommend starting with something like a sharpened skewer made from a piece of bamboo which still retains the smoothest hardest outer cortex or a big hard tree or cactus thorn, these are much more forgiving and gentle on fragile surfaces. Then if anything tough remains you can use your copper or harder tools.

>>56493007
>Why would you get excited about "reducing risk" instead of making a fuckton of money?
You could make millions by buying lottery tickets with all your money. Why don't you? The answer is because you made a risk assessment.
Gown ups do the same with their portfolio, they reduce volatility (aka risk) of their portfolio by balancing it to something less volatile or even anti cyclic.

>Gold is going to go up and miners will follow.
That doesn't matter me none, as the miners are in my ETF and the money value of my gold can go up or down, but the amount of gold i have will never change.
The money value of my gold will hopefully continue to be anti cyclic to my ETF so that i can balance them against each other.

Anyway, son, is picrel your gold and silver portfolio?

At the turn of the millennium (2000), gold was $250/ozt and silver was $4.55/ozt.

In 2011, Gold was $1900/ozt, and silver was $46/ozt.

Just throwing that out there.

>>56490858
Why are the bullion dealer and compare links all fucked up? Previous OP they were fine.

>>56493198
They didn't add a space after the /

>>56493198
>>56493307
Ah shit, sorry frens I'll keep that in mind next time.

>>56493426
Sweet coineroos.

>>56493426
Make sure you use a dedicated text file otherwise errors can appear if you're simply copying from one thread to another. Also note there needs to be a dash between /pmg/ and "Precious Metals General"

I am surprised gold is doing so well in this interest raising cycle and look how good it looks in non usd currencies.

>>56491723
What are implying you would do?

>>56491104
bars are based for sure
i go through phases
right now i'm all about 1oz coins/rounds to fill up my monster box

>>56493007
mines are holes in the ground with a liar at the top
i just want the finished product

>>56493648
interest rates rising don't matter anymore because forward thinking people can see that the system is going to collapse relatively soon
why make 10% on bonds when inflation is worse than that? just get gold/silver and be prepared for the currency reset

Gole an Silbur

Silbur an Gole

>>56493852
>Silbur an Gole
Based Yukon Cornelius

>>56493852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY-XDQN6ipE

>>56491829
well since you dont have a problem modifying the gilding on the design ive got an idea of what will be more appealing to other Anons to buy gilded. I also changed some of the waves and background for something of a more cleaned up design

>>56494090
that's way too much
gilding must be done sparingly
otherwise it looks gaudy

the pirate coin will be a 2024, right? there is no chance it gets made in 2023.

>>56494100
in that case both sides of the text can be normal,the reverse on the pmg flag will only be the gold part while the rest of the ship will be normal so it doesn't look overused

>>56494090
Might as well just make the coin gold. And do 1/4 and 1/2 oz so it’s still relatively affordable

>>56494156
smells like rug

>>56493852
>>56493933
>>56493960
Usually premature Christmas stuff is cringe, except when it's /pmg/ related.

>>56494166
Not actually. I’m just saying with THAT much gilding, fuck might as well just make the whole thing gold. I’m a fan of gilding but it has to be very sparse like>>56494100 said

>>56494156
thats why we have discussion about what Anons want or don't want, the final design hasn't been decided yet so we can still decide on it to a small degree ,plus i enjoy doing this, its fun talking to others

>>56494156
>And do 1/4 and 1/2 oz so it’s still relatively affordable
The cost is in the setup and making the die for a small run where cost can't be spread out. Doing small means more dies, more cost. You won't see much of a lower cost. Think, $60-$13(for a half ozt less silver) = $47 for a half ounce, effectively making it $94 per ounce.

Saturday

>>56494396
I promise I'm not being a smart ass, but by what you're saying, a 5toz round would be better premium wise for the customer?

>>56494396
Fair enough

I'm autistically compounding mint data of popular bullion coins since 1980:

Top Ten Silver coins:

1) American Eagle: 639.668 Moz
2) Canadian Maple Leaf: 155.564 Moz (last 8 years of data missing)
3) Chinese Panda: 117.796 Moz
4) Austrian Philharmonic: 98.98 Moz (last 2 years of data missing)
5) Australian Kangeroo: 51.675 Moz (last year data missing)
6) Mexican Libertad: 33.993 Moz
7) French 100 Franc (.9 purity): 27.339 Moz
8) Australian Kookaburra Kilocoin: 20.63 Moz
9) Australian Koala Kilocoin: 12.444 Moz
10) Australian Kookaburra ounce: 8.562 Moz

Missing data of possible top 10's: British Brittania and South African Krugerrand.
Total Silver used since 1980 by top 10: 1166.65 Moz


Top Ten Gold coins:

1) American Eagle: 23.634 Moz
2) South African Krugerrand: 22.051 Moz (last 9 years of data missing)
3) Canadian Maple Leaf: 21.622 Moz (last 9 years of data missing)
4) Wiener Philharmonic: 11.911 Moz (last 2 years of data missing)
5) Mexican Centenario: 9.955 Moz
6) Chinese Panda: 9.62 Moz
7) American Buffalo: 4.191 Moz
8) British Sovereign: 3.703 Moz (last 7 years of data missing)
9) Australian Kangeroo: 3.475 Moz
10) Mexican Libertad: 0.913 Moz

Missing data of possible top 10: British Brittania
Total Gold used since 1980 by top 10: 111.077 Moz

Any coins since 1980 that would breach these top 10's that I have forgotten?
Seems like a very small group.

I think the surprise is a bit that the American Eagle far and away dominates the silver mint figures with over half of the top 10, whilst it would only be third for gold if more data for the maple and krugerrand was available.
Also Silver/Gold mint is about 10-1
And between 1980 and 2007 there was little silver being minted with only 2008 being the first year with over 20 Moz minted by my selection then quickly running up to 100 Moz by 2013 (perhaps due to maples ending data in 2014).

>>56494497
did you consider that pandas are not a full troy ounce when gathering these numbers?

>>56494497
Sadly we don't have data on the Brits.
Is this worldwide or just the US?
You should put this all into a google sheet with sources for the data so that it can be scrutinized and maybe get better over time.

>>56494538
No actually but thats only since 2016

new rm for the day

>>56493052
good eye, it does appear to have been "cleaned" with vinegar or other mild acid.

I was thinking more of a cotton swab with some fuming solvent applied only to the crud. Acetone or alcohol or gasoline or toluene.

Thank you for your advice, I have a bamboo skewer I used with some success on the previous Bucktown tokens. I'll start with that and work up to copper wire and maybe the steel nail on the more solid areas.

I don't want to make the thing worse, but that's balanced out a bit by the fact that it's already in AG-cull condition and the value of the coin is based on its identity rather than condition. I could melt half of it with a torch and it would still be worth a few hundred dollars to over a thousand so long as it could be identified.

>>56494446
>a 5toz round would be better premium wise for the customer?
Sort, yes. Making up for setup cost isn't what call a "premium." It's cost recovery. I would argue it's one reason larger bars/coins have lower 'premiums'. It would also depend on how much (more?) it costs to make a bigger die, the cos for using a larger press (if that's what happens - I don't know), and how large the run is.

>5 ounce booty coin

I wonder how much effort and money it would take to nigger rig my own dies and press to make my own meme rounds. Yes, they’d be far more rustic than a professional BUT that has its own value. Any interest in rustic meme coins?

>>56494664
these desires always die

>>56494683
update the god damn art, the desire isn't dead

>>56494683
I’m committed to making Apu reichmarks once I have the money to just outright bankroll the 3000$ needed to make 100 of them. If an anon beats me to it all the best but a year from now I should have the fiat and time to do so.

>>56494664
I remember some anon a couple years back floating that exact same idea. Not sure if it ever happened. It could work, but my understanding is you'd want a furnace to anneal the coins before pressing.

>>56494664
somebody should take up the cause, cuz that's the only way we're gonna get a frensmark

>>56494701
if you think some custom coin company will do that design you're wrong

>>56494720
chinese would almost certainly do it.

>>56494729
Yeah but I want silver rounds, not steel.

>>56494695

>>56494695
>>56494683
I would buy SO many of these.

>>56494768

>>56494767
>Yeah but I want silver rounds, not steel.
It might take hiring a chinese interpreter and talking to a few producers, but I'd guess it's entirely possible to get real silver from those guys. You'd have to test it, and have a plan in place to reverse payment if it's not what you ordered, but they can certainly make the coin in pure silver.

I have the opportunity to buy a 20 oz of boomer Franklin mint sterling bars at .50 under spot. Should I?

>>56494801
Ignore that pic. Unrelated.

>>56494768
the date is still 2022. i think they look pretty spot on otherwise

>>56494801
If they’re legit and under spot go for it, fren. I respect your commemorative search as well; I’ve gotten below spot multiple times by trolling “ending soonest” on eGay.

>>56494563
My only panda is a 2016, interesting to learn.

>>56494844
Kek. That’s what I was doing. I thought of you and was going to upload picture and then realizing half dollars aren’t dollars and therefore it’s not under spot.

>>56494768
That clover looked like a totenkopf before zooming in.
>>56494704
And this guy is on to something, my dear
>>56494664
I was gonna make a ring a few weeks ago, or at least got started with the looking into how to make jewelry. The supplies cost enough to keep our average lurker away.

>>56494853
Those Washington’s are difficult to find anywhere near spot and the hunt for sub-spot silver dollars is an effort to say the least. I’ve spent between 13$ and 30$ depending on how lucky or drunk I was.

Kike coins have arrived

>>56494872
There’s definitely some more steps compared to contracting out to a professional coin manufacturer. The die, the press, the heating and cooling…hmmmmmm…

>>56494887
Anyone know what the kvetching is about here?

>>56494887
where'd you find that?

>>56494887
Is this them pointing fingers at everyone else!? Lmao

There’s gotta be a producer that will take the Apu reichmark design. It is so much easier to contract out versus the extreme inputs of casting your own.

>>56494930
I volunteer at a holocaust museum in Texas. The curator had an estate sale and I got first pick!

>>56494872
Shitty coin, nice pic :-)

>>56494958
>casting your own.
casting would be extremely cheap and easy.
It just doesn't usually produce as nice or as consistent results as pressing or striking.

>>56494968
Honestly not sure how to react to that. But congratulations on the coin still.

>>56491961
I have serial 001. my favorite coin so far, man. It's amazing stuff.

>>56491589
There have been very few people who've done a 10x off meme silver. The $1600 Aputannias was obviously an outlier. It's hard to sell them for over $200 no matter the rarity just because of what it is. I shoot for $120 because it provides me a decent profit after website, shipping, and card processing fees. Im only able to do this because I don't sell on eBay. Those Apus made eBay $240 each for doing fuck all but having a platform for people to find it. I used to allow vendors with 1% platform fees (card processing fee ranges from 3-6%) so effectively half eBay prices but I couldn't get people to finish signing up to list their products. I decided 1% of a sale wasn't worth my reputation if someone was selling tungsten bars or something. I may revisit it in the future though.

>>56494944
checked and kek

>>56494998
>There have been very few people who've done a 10x off meme silver.
yep, but a 5x is almost guaranteed.
short term anyways. Not sure how they'll age after 40 years or so. I'm guessing most of them will end up in scrap buckets unless either 4chan or anonymous somehow alters history.

>>56493058
>Why don't you?
Because it's an extremely low likelihood compared to mining stocks which are virtually a 100% likelihood you will at least make some profit.


>Gown ups do the same with their portfolio, they reduce volatility (aka risk) of their portfolio by balancing it to something less volatile or even anti cyclic.
Most of you people are zoomers. You have almost no money, it's not like you're retired boomers with lots of money and wanting to preserve that wealth.

>but the amount of gold i have will never change.
So? lol
You will have more purchasing power with whatever unit of currency you use if you simply bought mining stocks.

>Anyway, son, is picrel your gold and silver portfolio?
You people will make a comfy 3-4x. I will make an extremely comfy 20x I will retire on.

>>56493742
enjoy making less money than me I guess

>>56495085
Thank you for your investment thesis, However, we are a group of personal custody of wealth extremists. You must understand that we cannot be deterred by mere argumentation. Does that make us stupid? No. It makes us dangerous.

>StoneX kilo bars.
Thoughts on these?
They seem to be popping up all over Europe as the lowest price per gram silver you can get your hands on.

https://stonexbullion.com/en/silver-coins/coin-bars/1-kilo-coin-bar-silver-stonex-bullion/

>>56495021
>4chan or anonymous somehow alters history.
I can see this site being Banned-By-Name in different countries in the future. Then the rounds become more interesting

>>56495131
hasn't it already altered it to some small degree?

>>56495090
Lmao you all lose $$$ on the silver scam, except for mintscamanon he makes bank

>>56495085
>>56495090
isn't there a /cmmg/ in the catalog?
go lose money there

>>56495131
>>56495161
I'm not sure we're doing enough to result in people researching and caring about the meme rounds. Like you'd need several people in 2075 fascinated by /pmg/ history to even preserve the things, let alone have them keep their value or go up in price. Most likely everything that goes on here will be erased and forgotten long before that.

>>56495206
We just need an archivist. State quarter anon likes to do a bunch of work for free. I nominate him.

>>56495206
>there was this site where everyone lost $$$ in the silver scam except for one guy who who was scamming them by charging huge premiums for a commodity


Lmao you retards think ur special for getting scammed ....truly amazing

>>56495223
>Lmao you retards think ur special for getting scammed ....truly amazing
see, you said the same thing I did,
but you're too fucking retarded to know it.
>>56495218
archivist and a museum and a place in history that merits the archives and museum lasting.

Remember frens, don't reply to shills.

>>56495243
it's been tried before

the thread dies if you don't ever respond to trolls.
a thread where we all congratulate each other and look at pictures of coins and bars is remarkably boring.

>>56495253
well this pmg thread sure is boring cuz of your 32 posts

>>56495263
yet you responded anyways.
mazel tov

>>56495238
>place in history that merits the archives and museum lasting.
(((Anons))) will always attempt to downplay our role in the precious metals movement by slandering us incessantly (sound familiar). The best thing we can do to overcome this is to create a fantastic history with embellishment. That centers us in history, and people who believe it we call better humans. People need to be having deeply emotional reactions to our history (contrived or otherwise) therein lies the power.

>>56495276
sorta

anon started the silver squeez, or a 4chan tripfag did. But so far that hasn't produced results that merit study or admiration. Maybe it will someday, who knows? I suppose a lot of historical figures never thought they were doing anything remarkable.

I doubt /pmg/ will be remembered for its activity in metals markets. Maybe as part of some larger movement that has nothing to do with metals though.

>>56495295
>anon/tripfag starts silver squeeze
>silver squeeze produces memecoins
>memecoins produce anons networking
>anons networking produces _________
>?????
>NWO defeated

>>>/pol/446663886
Any 3D modelers want to help make this mask?
Defeatism is our enemy. Let’s not be defeated.

>>56495308
maybe, if the silver squeeze ever actually pays off like it was supposed to. Stranger things have happened.

From what I've seen looking at history, later generations are usually interested in something that seems mundane at the time. We could be making history in ways we can't even predict. Not likely, but possible.

>>56495308
>some anon goes on to become president of the US
>shifts world politics and culture in ways that permanently alter the course of history
>anon's time on 4chan is studied
>meme coins suddenly become extremely valuable and sought after artifacts of anon's path to greatness or infamy
stuff like that could happen. Probably won't, but it can't be completely dismissed.

>>56495243
>mintscamanon when he's trying to command his army of simps to do something besides getting scammed of all their real paper $$$

>>56495253
>a thread where we all congratulate each other for getting scammed and look at pictures of shitcoins, fake dobloon ashtrays and pics of Pete Schitt is remarkably fascinating.

+DUPI+ +RD+

>>56495340
>the silver squeeze

Lmao at you retards who get scammed.....amazing

>>56495402
I find some of your observations fascinating, but only because they're direct copies of my comments over the years.

Lots of trolls have copied me, but you're the first one too dumb to notice you're copying me.

>>56495385
It's fun to think about

Watching a great video right now. It's basically an in depth look into the corporation that owns the world.

https://youtu.be/DBkNJ7eaR20

>>56495422
>It's fun to think about
it is. Who knows what might happen?

even the destruction of most of the meme coins could prompt interest in the ones that survive. People spend months or years researching weird coins and medals they find and know nothing about.

>>56495107
Looks nice. Available to burgers? If there’s free shipping it’s definitely a good price but I stay away from kilos usually because of looks. This does have a much sharper design compared to the usual bread loaf however.

>>56495430
Unless it tells me to give all my real money to mintscamanon for some retard rocks not gonna watch that

>>56495430
What is the corporations name?

Post silver.

>>56495471
Don't mind if i do.

>>56495436
Lmao you tards don't realize anyone could mint millions more but exactly zero people want to

>>56495471
>>56495476
Look at these shineys I got scammed on and simp for me my fellow scam victims

>>56495488
>you tards don't realize anyone could mint millions more but exactly zero people want to
actually we do realize that.

coin collectors in general are quite familiar with restrikes and reproductions.

we study them in a scientific manner using microscopes and all manner of measuring implements. And you expose your ignorance of the topic by not knowing this.

>>56495467
>What is the corporations name?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cede_and_Company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depository_Trust_Company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depository_Trust_%26_Clearing_Corporation

>>56495504
>when the scam victim says ' I was just pretending to be retarded'

>>56495554
>when even a bot realizes it said something stupid

>>56494997
>I have serial 001
Pretty neat!

>>56495499
I'm in the green, so the joke is on you.

>>56495471
>Post silver.
In the same vein, post gold!

>>56490877
you know it

>>56495847
>>56495764

Post ur losses chumps

Remember folks the easiest way to get rich is

Step 1. Don't buy silver

Why are most people bad at making MASSIVE money with silver stacking and shitcoin buying? Because we can’t get out of our own way. I’ve noticed the below tendencies in myself over my 30 yrs of investing:

1) Early on, I form a core belief about a company of “it’s good” or “bad” many times based on articles I read or some guru who lays out a very convincing reason why it’s a buy or a short.

2) Initially in stocks, once that core mindset is formed (it’s a good or bad stock or investment), it’s VERY hard to change in my mind. It’s almost like “Whatever belief gets planted first, that’s the one that grows the fastest”.

3) I would lurk and consume news articles/websites that would lay out (in deep detail) why the stock would be a great investment. Breaking down the P&L, Balance Sheets, FCF, Margins (or lack thereof) and showcasing why, if something appeared bad, it was actually good for the long term prospects of the company. ie - the one you see most often of “they have no profit margins for 10 years because they keep investing in R&D and CAPEX which will benefit them long term”. That has cost me hundreds of thousands over the years in stock losses.

4) I would read the “opposite opinion” articles but I have found that it’s so hard to change that initial seed that was planted about a company, even as a stock or investment craters. I would keep holding out hope.

is this what they call milk spots?

>>56495929
You sound like a schizo and a retard

your observations would be really useful if anyone here was actually investing rather than gambling.

>>56495937
thats not supposed to happen with older coins, back then the mint didnt fuck up the cleaning process with the blanks ,thats a modern problem with the minting process like maples,krugs,phils,etc ,so either someone fucked up the coin with some chemical, or... i Dunno

>>56495961
that'll also happen if anon has strong acids stored anywhere in the house, or a saltwater fish tank, or any other corrosive fumes floating around. Mercury is a good one for that sort of damage.

>>56495961
i have many 1 oz silver coins and rounds dating from the early 1800s up to 2020s.
none of my other silver looks at all like this with these weird whitish splotches

>>56495997
if it's just the one coin it may have been treated with chemicals as he suggests.

or your other coins in holders? Any differences in storage or location?

>>56495471

>>56496006
very few of my coins or rounds or bars are in any kind of protective case or sleeve. it's almost all just naked in a piles in boxes with other silver.
a few pieces of my silver has become colored or toned with a patina of sorts, but none of it has ever had spots or splothes like this.

these 50 franc Hercules with the spots, i just got the other day. they arrived in those thin vinyl plastic sleeves.
pretty sure they already had the spots when i received them in the mail

>>56496084
i think this the explanation for what my coins have
https://www.ngccoin.com/submit/coins-we-grade/white-spots/

I've heard off milk spots before didn't think it would look like what my coins look like.
cant say i like it.

>>56496084
>they arrived in those thin vinyl plastic sleeves.
if you want, post pics of the vinyl

it may be the PVC rot. That's what it looks like, but PVC poisoning will usually be on both sides.

It also looks a bit like someone sneezed on it or sprayed some droplets of something on one side.

>>56496109
could be milk spots but I'd be more likely to suspect the vinyl holders.

>>56496119
>>56496188

>>56496224
perfect, thanks

that holder doesn't cause damage. So if it's PVC damage it had to be from a different older vinyl flip.

milk spots now seem more likely.

>>56496084
Why does it matter you already lost your money

>>56496224
Hideous dseign

>>56495202
You people have been losing money just as much as were have

>>56496310
someday we'll tell you a grand story about a horse and a cowboy hat and the thai ladyboys.

The reason /cmmg/ isn't losing millions now is because most of the oldfags roped.

>>56495903
Why do you think there are losses? Unless you bought your gold in the last few days you are in the green by default.

>>56496348
Lmao you lost 30% to inflation and 40% in opportunity costs not that you understand those concepts

Lmao, no rent, no interest, no dividends

>>56496390
we give those things up in exchange for 0 counter party risk
it's a conscious decision, and it will be proven to be prudent soon enough

>>56496348
it's a bot, anon.

>>56496378
I think you may actually be retarded, stuck in a loop or both.
Let me say this again, if you bought your gold at any other time than the last two weeks, you are guaranteed in the green.

>>56494497
Nice. Where did you find all the data?

>>56496416
I'm not convinced. I think it may actually be a retard. As in, underdeveloped grey matter.

>>56494497
Gold krugs were illegal and vastly under reported even after legalization
they were the first bullion coins in the US, but you couldn't admit to owning them.

Gold eagles were the first legal bullion coins sold in the US as I recall

Leafs didn't become super popular in the US until the late 80's

I don't know anything about other countries, just the gold situation in the US in the 70's to now.

Gonna make new thread.

NEW
>>56496435
>>56496435

>>56496450
already done senpai

Posting to get to limit.

>>56496549
Thank you.

>>56495308
>>56495340
the real squeeze were teh frens we made along the way

>>56491842
>>56491829
gold flag silver jolly Rodger is the only add id like to see, im happy either way

>>56492563
lovely photo anon