/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56476700
>CHINA BANNED GRAPHICS CARDS
wut?

Why didn't you listen?

>Altria down 8%
This may just be the black swan even that crashes everything. Do you realize how many boomers lost a significant chunk of their retirements?

>bears doing a victory lap already
We're ending green on the day aren't we?

>>56476709
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>NGMI
how do I cope?

NVIDIA CUSTOMER DATABASE LEAKED
NVIDIA CEO TWEETED TRANNY PORN
NVIDIA CUSTOMER DATABASE LEAKED

>>56476715
>victory lap
This is just the opening warmup. You have no idea how bad this is going to get.

There's still time SOXL and UPRO bros

>we

>>56476711
>boomers
There are lots of non-boomers in this general who own MO. Because dividends or something.

>>56476733
>ed

oh nyo I'm nyaat bouncing so good

>>56476710
we've already settled this anon, me and the boys all know we're just at the first sell off stage. i don't know why you want to spread FUD every day with that post

>(You)

>>56476735
Yeah I'm one of them, that's why I know.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

YELLEN!!!! YELLEN!!!! PUMP MY BAGS YELLEN!!!!

anyone seen mr david soxl?

I should have sold my AMZN last week instead of waiting for earnings

>>56476711
>Heh, lower price just means a higher divvy yield.
-Those retarded Boomers, shortly before the dividend is cut

I want blood I want Spy under 400 tomorrow NOW!

Reminder to invest in profitable companies with low debt and competitive advantages.

Texas Roadhouse earnings tonight. If you're gonna trade off that pajeet's research, now's your chance.

it's ok the santa rally will redeem us, right? :)

I lost all my gains....

>>56476715
Just a couple days ago we had plenty of bulls in here calling the bobos delusional. This is just the beginning

Reminder to fraudulently take out huge ass life insurance on geriatrics you don't know in your neighborhood

>>56476710
I did, and am bagging those SPY 250 put LEAPs

>>56476782
thanks

I kinda figured 407 area today. Wonder what gives

My Roth is entirely dividend growth. My taxable a count is entirely VOO and VTI. My one flyer is CAVA. Do you have a flyer?

Its over

>>56476771
Smoking can make a comeback if we all chip in and try hard. Prevent an ACK, smoke a pack!

getting absolutely heemed on god frfr no cap.

Amazon needs to beat and better not tell anybody that they expect consumers to spend less in the next quarter or this will get ugly real fast. Apple won't beat next week, China is too messy at the moment.

>>56476795
It's already going back up. We'll end the day green.

I have made 26.6% holding SQQQ over the last 2 weeks. not selling my $22k position till tech bros are jumping out of buildings
>b-b-b-but you can't just hold an inverse leveraged ETF!!!!1one
watch me fag

gonna be real with you chief,
This market action is putting me to sleep, we are not even close to where we need to be.

Hmmm... I believe I would like to purchase some shares of $ABBV. Not yet, let the market hurt a bit more. That saucy little ticker's been pretty resilient, but as soon as the overall market forces push it down I'll descend onto the buy button with rapacious glee. Maybe some $NVO perchance. Ah, but only for cheap, for cheap. What possibilities!

>>56476802
>>56476825
Does anyone have that Powell copypasta about financial murder?

>>56476820

>>56476828
Nvidia saved the day again, didn't it?

>>56476711
British American Tobacco bros should we sell now or wait and see?

My $HAS is not looking so good

>>56476810
You gotta have fun money.

>>56476835
I wanted to buy ABBV but desu the ticker sounds retarded so idk I think the stock may be retarded too.

>>56476859
>ABBV Vinters

you smell that? it's the bottom

I see more vaping than ever. Surely MO has positions in that.

>>56476760
No but if you do tell him I'm coming to kick his ass and he better have my refund

Had a cardio cycling workout up to the park grabbed a coffee smoked a cuban the quality is going to shit on cubans btw fucking cost cutting. My portfolio is up even though I'm all in equities. Insufferable bears can't touch me and bear posting can't ruin my mood fuck you nigger faggots the market is bottoming right now bears will lose everything as per usual loser kek. Janny warned me because I was bottom posting earlier shove it up your ass you cuck rent free loser.

>>56476696
Does anyone here believe in the seasonality melt up?
October usually marks the end of bear markets and considering we had 2 bad days in a row (mini crash), will the Santa rally commence soon?

>>56476869
MO is lagging behind its competitors in vaping and smokeless products

Uh uh Bobo, you better slap that cow back down before he gets echoing again

>the beatings will continue until gamma improves

Guys, I hear Yellen saying consumers are doing well the economy is booming and never been better. Americans are spending great money and we are doing great on the soft landing. I agree!

>>56476849
Sell the bottom kek BTI is going to inverse yields because It's overleveraged as fuck. Japan tobacco is just superior in every way.

>>56476696
I have eaten at JibJab before. For me, it's the dozen and one chili dog special with a cherry soda.

Yep, bottom is in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDT9Aok3QXE

No rate cuts for you.

There's a nigger in this thread.

>>56476888
christmas rally begins after november opex

>>56476868
not even close

JINGDONG BRETHREN THEY LAUGHED AT US!

This is fucking insane. I'm bleeding money everyday, they literally have to cut rates. This cannot be sustained. Inflation is done, CUT THE FUCKING RATES

>>56476849
> buying tobacco
This isn't the 1950s, what were you thinking?

Where's the guy that was shorting the VIX via SVIX. You still holding strong?

>>56476897
Sounds like a case to continue to raise interest rates if you ask me, all the while the planet continues to dump the dollar. Or am I wrong?

>>56476902
Nothing affiliated with the word jab is ever going into my body ever sgain

>>56476915
>not even close
Stfu fag go short the bottom. You will fuel the rally to ATHs.

BOBOID ARE YOU OK?

I don't care what the market does, I just don't want the BoJ to said/publish dumb things next week. Let the JPY sink. Please don't SAY anything, just shut up, let the market do its thing. I have my trip the very next week. Why do these faggots always have to talk anyway. Central Bankers should be allowed 1 speech/publication a year, and that's it.

>>56476919
>Inflation is done
Not until those core monthlies are racking up 0.1's and 0.2's for a quarter or two.

something tells me i should buy a few 0DTE puts, and then some 60 day calls on AMZN. something tells me they're going to estimate a really low earnings just to make the actual earnings seem high

"bottom is in" time to buy puts. Keep sucking off nerds and big techs weird fags

>>56476919
>inflation is done

Anyone else slurp?

>>56476923
Well, it's a good diversifier since it doesn't really correlate much with the rest of the market. Also I'm an accelerationist so I gravitate to sin stocks

https://realmoney.thestreet.com/investing/with-fantastic-results-why-is-meta-s-stock-down-here-s-how-to-play-it-16136508

whirlpool and altria both getting heemed

>>56476917
And it's still a funny name, every time I read it.

>>56476919
Say it with me
HIGHER
FOR
LONGER

>>56476923
But it's a CONSUMER STAPLE.

>>56476938
>indices shitting blood
>bulls still celebrating
We have so much lower to go.

>>56476957
>WHR: -16%
What in the name of fuck?

>>56476961
SEE YOU IN Q1 2024 THE YEAR OF THE DRAGON! WHEN JINGDONG WILL BE AT $50.

>>56476954
Nope, just you.

>>56476896
>GEX flip all expirations: 4341
is this bullish?

>>56476925
I found him

META

As revenue was growing 23.2%, costs and expenses decreased 7.5% to $20.398B. This put operating income at $13.748B, which was good for growth of 142.7% as operating margin popped from 20.4% for the year ago comp to an impressive 40.3%. After interest and taxes, net income printed at $11.583B, which was up 168%.

Remember, this is CEO Mark Zuckerberg's "Year of Efficiency" and it sure looks like it as profitability has been prioritized and expenses minimized.

>>56476931
>ever again
RIP

Does the market think the Hess deal was a bad thing, why is CVX bleeding?

Rember Rember the Eighth of November

>>56476983
Stfu nerd it's a glorified forum board

>>56476990
lol
>>56476983
So post your calls on META anon.

Well, friend, it looks like the sun's settin' on this here ride. I'm fixin' to mosey on out of this market, reckon there ain't much left for me here. Times change, just like the weather, and it appears my time in these parts has run its course.

>>56476980
no, we'd have to be above 4341 to be bullish

>>56476925
>>56476982
meh could be better. I've had positions do worse. I have faith though. Despite the carnage in tech the VIX isn't budging much. Roll yield will take care of the position for me I think

>>56476999
At least with forums you can find posts and reply to them, you can't even do that on Facebook. It's just an ad feed.

>>56476968
IWM is green you massive homo. You losers are so euphoric over a few weeks of dump, the bottom is in for sure now. Bear euphoria has never been this high.

>>56476994
They're making a deal with Rudolf Hess? The Nazi?!

where is my fish mutant stock nigga at? this shit is going to 0 is isn't?

>>56476977
That's too bad. Got some good slurping on SAVE today.
Love when market declines cause my merger arbs to lose value, as if somehow SPY being 2% cheaper means the odds of successful trial are now 5% lower than yesterday. Perfect time to reallocate some cash what was otherwise just sitting in t-bills.

>>56477032
Based. Behead all bears.

>>56477015
shut up faggot. No one ever leaves, so tomorrow and this weekend. Remember, you are here forever.

>>56477032
>Russel
LOL

>>56476972
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/whirlpool-cuts-guidance-points-weak-153820823.html?.tsrc=rss

huge overreaction, im finna slurp

Bobo always overplays his hand, never knows when to claim victory. The only thing certain in this market is the inevitable face ripping short cover rally. Every tick is a step closer.

>>56477059
>Whirlpool Corp. shares tumbled

heh

>>56476990
In my defense it was a military grade psyop run by people with PHDs in behavioral psychology, and using big corporations, celebrities, all the MSM and big tech, and entire governments, think tanks, NGOs, etc all in lockstep brainwashing us in propaganda.

But never again will I buy a healthcare stock or pharma stock or trust those sellout doctors, I woke up from the trance

>>56477032
>>56477050
>bragging about the Russell
>has been dumping continuously since 2021
What did he mean by this?

>>56477065
>I woke up from the trance
based. you're gonna make it

Nothing ever happens. I will never get to buy cheapies. I will keep my cash and we will see new all-time highs next week.

>>56477035
kek

>>56477060
>>56477081
SPY will end the year at 300, and all you stupid tranny shills are going to rope.

>>56477089
430, maybe.

I wonder if Amazon will get good earnings? We need the markets to be saved!

RSP is positive by the way. In other words, this entire selloff is due to FAGMAN pumpers realizing the top is in on their momentum trade, and has been for 2-3 months.

>>56477081
nigga wtf u smokin
MO
WHR
WBA
CLX

HOW DO I TURN THIS SHIT OFF

>>56477052
Whoa, partner, don't mean to sound all angsty and riled up. No use getting all riled and angry over it. Just feelin' a tad low, is all. These ol' thoughts, they're like tumbleweeds in my mind, driftin' and twistin' in this empty expanse.

You young'uns just ain't got the miles on 'em to grasp the weight of it all.

>bonds down
>stocks down
>oil down

Why

>>56477105
AMZN will beat like the rest of them It's baked in the cake.

>Market is in extreme fear again

ruh roh

>>56477097
300 on the way to sub-200.

>>56477111

>>56477122
yields are down bonds are up

>>56477115
>$125k price target

>>56477123
You don't remember 2020.

>>56477126
>This guy believes in Paul Krugman.

Look at Zuckerbergs face.

>>56477115
top signal
Imagine thinking there is electricity where we are going in 2024

>>56477138
Nigger, I *AM* Paul Krugman.

>>56477123
the flight to safety/quality that never materializes

>>56477111
Checked.
>>56477127

can anyone confirm if amazon warehouses and jobs are fucked? I have been browsing on twitter, reddit, discord and youtube shit related to amazon gigs;

apparently shifts in major cities have been non existent and entire warehouses have been vacant for months. sounds really bearish.

And just like that, on a sunny Thursday afternoon in late October, the market decided that being irrational was more entertaining than being efficient and never went down again. Amen.

>>56477082
Great franchise. Not the best example of it though

this is the end, bros

>>56477109
But even if FAGTMAN is the sole reason for the selloff that is still bad news for the S&P and Nadsaq which is what people think of when they think "the market". All the other tech ETFs SOXL, TECL, WEBL, FNGU, BULZ, etc. are doomed for a while

>>56477154
This quote is so real, I am sure we have all been there. God bless Buffet and his enlightening quotes

>>56477156
this except up

>>56477156
It was a little overextended. That was a good place for some profit taking on the short side. It's the reason I did so earlier as well.

>>56477180
Thank goodness, now we can dump even more

>>56477176
Leverage is a hell of a drug.

>>56477175
IWC and IWM are slightly green on the day. With the FAGTMAN 7 heemed, bears have no more ammo.

I discovered a fool proof 100% consistent way of making stocks drop.

Basically the strategy is that, I do my own research, think long and hard about a stock I really like, and then get this right? I buy the stock.

immediately after following my purchase, the stock drops. Its been so consistent and reliable, I pretty much purposely buy stocks that I want to drop and its NEVER failed me yet.

I just bought SPY at 414, so you already know its going much much lower. Anyways just thought id share this tip with you all

>>56477148
>Nigger, I *AM* Paul Krugman.
considering the timeline this wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

I don't know why the hell NEP crashed so hard a month ago but already up 15% really enjoying the slurp

>>56477124
I dunno, Meta beat earnings with a huge report and yet the markets still tanked after that...not sure if AMZN will put a dent into the stock market.

>>56477176
I was catching the SOXL falling knife in March 2020 and this is exactly what was going through my head. It actually worked out pretty well in the longer run

>>56477199
Part of the whole XLU bloodbath.

I will never recover from this financially.

I go to the grocery store for like 20 minutes and you guys go schizo again.

The stock market is fucking garbage.
Thanks Biden.

War is on the horizon, and banking losses are rising. There's a lot of valid reasons to be afraid

>>56477209
It was priced in now it's correcting to shake out the goyim make them go into cash so they can buy when the stock is at ATHs It's a classic trick.

>KRE: +2.96%

PUMO MY SMALL CAP STOCK FOR ONCE IT'S BEEN YEARS FOR GODS SAKE

>VIX not making higher high with market making lower low

>>56477185
mayhaps

>>56477220
Bold, yet immeasurably tragic

>>56477245
Tony Dwyer is a fucking idiot.

>>56477228
>MFW I'm balls deep in defense stocks

>>56477228
BTC my friend

>>56477258
Take that back MAGGOT!

>>56477245
dealers selling vol into puts in order to make a new wall, so far its working

>>56477245
The thing about the VIX and the reason I like shorting it so much is when the market goes up, VIX futures roll down, when the market crabs, VIX futures roll down and often when the market crashes but doesn't crash too hard or too fast or on too bad news the VIX surprisingly remains fairly steady and sometimes will actually drop. VIX only really moons when markets go nuts to the downside on some really bad news. Unless the market is surfing the all time high I actually prefer shorting VIX versus buying dips in other stocks. The performance and accuracy is much better. To wit I've been in SVIX for several days and despite the market puking I'm only down a little over a percent. At the slightest hint of a recovery SVIX will pump 15%-20%

If you buy you own equity. If you sell you own nothing, but get money. But money doesn't bring happiness. Therefore it only makes sense to buy.

HAS
Hasbros, wtf did we do to deserve this

>>56477278
I saw that. Also Comcast took a hit. I'm going to sell all my Amazon after their earnings report and throw it between those two

>>56477278
I'm not even an MtG nerd, but seems like they defiled that pretty hard.

>>56477278
I hope they crash and burn and have to sell WotC to a company that actually cares

>>56477175
>even if FAGTMAN is the sole reason for the selloff that is still bad news for the S&P and Nadsaq
Not really. As I just said, other stocks are flat. The truth is that outside FAGMAN there's already been a strong selloff to the point where RSP is down YTD. Now the megacap tech shit is finally catching up, which will likely mark the conclusion of this leg downward.
Equal weight has a slightly different dynamic, since FAGMAN all correlates strongly and makes up such a large portion of market weight SPY. While the largecaps do hold a lot of the market liquidity, RSP is also useful to look at, as are yields - which are actually reversing significantly today after 10Y failed to hold above 5%.

If you zoom out, we've been crabbing for the better part of 3 years now and this is really just more of the same. These relative low points mark a good opportunity to rebalance towards more stocks and less cash, but long term I expect this crabbing to continue as long as real yields stay high.

>>56477004

results were impressive but next quarter guidance was even more impressive with around 10%-15% revenue increase q/q which would probably a couple od $Billions more in net income, ie $13B-$14B which would mean a PE of 13.7

>>56477276
I just checked and TQQQ has dropped over 15% since I opened my SVIX trade while SVIX is down only 1.5%. The upside between these two is actually very similar so smaller downside with equal upside sign me up

>SPY deep red
>RSP (equal weight S&P 500) green
it's the end for megacapcels

>>56477304
Exactly. This image does a better job expressing my point.

>>56477276
shorting vol seems like it's a money printer but up until now i've just been swinging stocks. how do you prefer to trade it?

japs

Here comes the mumu express. Get yer ass ready Bobros.

This is the worst /smg/ ever

>>56477304

>>56477320
Bullish for Nippon exporters.

>>56477323

You just didn't buy META calls 300 strike

>USA GDP 4.9%

those fuckers are gonna keep hike rates aren't they, fffuuuuucccckkkk

>>56477323
True, but at least it's not GME bagholders general

>>56477338
Jesus christ bears could not be more wrong lmfao

Cough it up bobo

At precisely 12:56 was the generational bottom and now we are on track to a new bull cycle to ATHs. And with the Russell leading the way to boot. This is a bullish signal.

>>56477296
>If you zoom out, we've been crabbing for the better part of 3 years now and this is really just more of the same
If you adjust SPY to take the value of the dollar into account this is even more apparent. Pic related
>>56477316
>shorting vol seems like it's a money printer but up until now i've just been swinging stocks. how do you prefer to trade it?
Very very carefully actually. Always keep volmageddon in mind. I use the VIX6M/VIX and VIX3M/VIX ratios to plot where I think the VIX is over extended on the upside. I also watch VIX futures like a hawk. If they go much under 20 I'm not interested in shorting since the risk of a violent explosion of volatility. It's not free money but it is doable just watch your position and remember all of the VIX ETNs are based on VIX futures so if they start getting fucky you need to get out. I use stops on my VIX shorts and will happily flip to going long VIX if things break down completely such as the dump in 2020. If you want to get your feet wet pull up the SVOL chart. It's only about 0.25x levered short so the risk of blowing up is very small

>>56477304
>META down
>MSFT down
>NVDA down
>GOOGL down
>AMZN down
>TSLA down
>AAPL down

Gee it seems like having the entire stock market carried by only 7 companies is a terrible idea. Like the Nifty Fifty but much worse kek.

>>56477338
The market currently thinks there's a 96% chance that the FOMC will keep rates the same next week.

>>56477358
>Companies that make things everyone uses shouldn't be worth tons of money!
This attitude is so retarded

>>56476919
The rates just got 25 bps higher.

The government is brankrupting itself to keep up the illusion that everything is okay.

>>56477348
But I'm a bull...

>>56477348
means more hikes, does it not?

one more leg down?

>>56477353
I'll add you can also look at ZIVB. It's a short of the mid-term 4-7 month VIX futures with a 153 day constant maturity. Even if things go bad and you get caught up it is much less likely to blow up than front 2 month short VIX such as SVIX, SVXY, WEIX, and SVOL

>>56477353
where do we put our money then anon?

are...are we recoooooovering?

>>56477285
Comcast still not yielding over 3% but im monitoring

This will be a very stinky sour hour.

>>56477381
Well, I'm in SVIX for what that's worth. If I stop out I'll be sure to let the thread know loud and clear. Maybe start with a small amount of funds. The order of short VIX ETNs from least to most risk is SVOL, ZIVB, SVXY, SVIX. The first two are relatively safe, the latter two will get ugly fast if Covid part deux happens

>>56477368
Oh I know. It's just that bears keep saying the same shit over and over about the economy being "shit" even though the hard numbers say otherwise

>>56477374
Probably not. If inflation stays where it is we're probably in line with the Fed's "2% goal over time" sooner rather than later

>TA says amazon is still going down
>estimate earnings claim a possible reversible to the upside
why is stock trading so hard

>>56477353
thank you for reminding me why i come here anon. any other things you like to watch?

>>56477131
How do I tell the difference

>>56477405
the harder the numbers, the harder the landing

>>56477408

>>56477397
what is your reasoning to short volatility in a time of rising interest rates, two wars, an election cycle, and global unrest?

>>56477421
i'm not hiding, i just want to make sure my next move helps to recoup my losses

who has earnings after the bell today?

>>56477422
do you think the market isn't aware of that? what a silly question

>bloated tech finally getting what it deserves

Praise be, the small caps shall inherit the market.

Did SKYT anon rope?

Closing green?

>>56477436

>>56477443
Legend says he's still out there, buying dips to this day.

>>56477436
Ford, Intel and of course chipotle. Oh and amazon I guess.

>>56477444
dipslurpers and 0dte niggers

>>56477437
the market isn't aware of tomorrow. Iran could nuke israel at any second and one night you go to sleep at $20 vix and wake up and it is $120

>>56477422
>what is your reasoning to short volatility in a time of rising interest rates, two wars, an election cycle, and global unrest?
There was a study done a while back that showed part of the reason why the poor get poorer and the rich get richer in the stock market. It boiled down to this, stock market winners make better trades, losers worse. This happens in all market environments but in times of crisis and high volatility, the process speeds up. Better traders are even more profitable with the opportunity to make a lot more trades. My point is, if you're a decent trader with positive expectancy don't be afraid of crisis and volatility. You should anticipate it and be happy when it comes. I don't just blindly short vol whenever I feel like. For one thing I don't short it when it's too low and I don't short it when it's too high. When vol is super low, being long the indexes is the better trade and when vol is super high, being long vol or cash is the better trade. The middle area is best with the least risk relative to the potential reward. As long as the VIX and the VIX cash ratios remain in the medium zone I'll continue to swing short. When that's no longer the case I'll move on

>>56477436
>tfw no sexy witchy aunts
isimplylivewiththepain.jpeg

I think they might break the mega trend soon. electric lightning a shit.

>>56477492
Don't forget their gay ass ecoboost engines are going to cost them billions.

>>56477444
That seems like a stretch

>>56477436
>>56476783

>>56477471
>Iran could nuke israel at any second and one night you go to sleep at $20 vix and wake up and it is $120
VIX futures trade 23 hours a day on week days. If something like that happened I would get stopped out and then flip long. If SVIX got liquidated it would affect my account only the amount that was in SVIX. The remainder would be placed in UVIX as soon as was possible

>tfw russian VIX exports isn't pricecapped at $25

>>56477471
So you're saying Israel getting nuked would get me gains?

>AVAV shill jinxed it
Lol to the lmao.

>>56477514
if you were long volatility absolutely

>>56477514
It will give everyone gains, even if you don't have a penny in the market.

>PYPL +1.1%
hahaha yes! And I'm only down 8% on my position overall

Markets are healing

>>56477364
They should be worth a proportionate amount of money.

tempted to buy some novavax, it may just pump again

>>56477507
>buying vol AFTER the nukes drop

>>56477547
kek that apu.
Yea the more questions I ask this anon the more sure I am he is a midwit.

POWER HOUR
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>56477522
>watches vol decrease below 2 in real time

>only 13% down on my TLT shares now

unironically WTFWT?

NEW
>NEW
NEW
>>56472043
>>56472043
>>56472043
1000 days later

>>56477220
What’s the expy? I thought I was vomiting

>>56477569
why not just use treasury direct? I don't get the point of the etf

Amazon earnings are going to crash the market.

>>56477579
nvda jumped a smidge

>>56477585
I hope you get AIDS

>>56477590
Convenience, liquidity.

>>56477547
>>buying vol AFTER the nukes drop
There was a huge hours long argument on here yesterday about the momentum factor in investing. Of all the factors it's the most robust and has been shown to persist in all markets going back hundreds of years. There is no proven answer to why it persists but it does. One explanation is information isn't distributed instantly. Some traders get the memo sooner and react. Some traders get the memo later and react then. After the dust settles the slow pokes get in closer to the end of the move and cause it to get over extended. Happens on the upside and the downside. If you go through your charts carefully and look at all the "happenings" you'll see that the move never exhausts itself immediately. You can easily get in as long as you don't wait too long. Think about NVDA when it had its recent blowout earnings and gapped from 300 to almost 400. That was it right? Nope. It kept going another 30%. Most big events are like that especially a dropped nuke. Not that the markets would even open so it's hypothetical anyway

>>56477585
lmao you absolute plonker

>>56477585

>>56477593
Fuck you. They will save the market and everyone will come to their senses that a 20 dollar drop on record earnings because a woman said Israel is fucking ridiculous. My calls will be saved and I will go back to four figures.

>>56477585
die

>>56477579
Hope?

>>56477590
all the money is in the same account, don't have to switch accounts

>>56477590
Quick and liquid, can sell a call as well.

>>56477579
We just unironically entered a new bull cycle. The bottom is in.

>>56477612
O shit

>>56477602
if you haven't read Soro's book "The Alchemy Of Finance" He coins the term of "reflexivity" similar to what you are describing.

>>56477556
Yeah I guess to the average retard losing trader such as yourself, actual profitable strategies would sound counterintuitive

>>56477607
Amazon is holding up the market, AWS is holding Amazon, tech startups are holding up AWS, and low interest rates *were* holding up tech startups. The same phenomenon showed up in Google's earnings. Now we crash.

>>56477585
there is still a /gme/? And they still talk about a short squeeze?! Embrassing to be on the same board as these imbeciles.

>>56477585

>>56477602
I have. Don't care for the dude but he's a good trader

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>56477590
Can't use that from my IRA.

>>56477636
buddy, there's still a bbby thread even though the stock has been discontinued twice in a row now.

>>56477636
you should check out /bbbyq/, it's even worse, just pure, undiluted liquid cope and schizo shit

>>56477590
Treasury Direct doesn't let you interact with the secondary market; it only allows you to buy newly-issued securities on scheduled auction days. You can't buy on non-auction days. You can't sell; you have to transfer the security to a broker for that. And you can't transfer it to a broker for 45 days, IIRC.

>>56477648
meant for >>56477626
now I feel bad for calling you names. see waht this place does to me?

OH NO WTFWT

Hope you FUCKING RETARDS bought the intraday top. Bulls deserve to lose their money.

Looks like es00 was right for once.

At precisely, 3:00 was the top and we are on our way to new lows and the bear market continues. You need to sell now.

Just realized TLT is down more than 50% from it's peak.

>>56477653
>>56477657

>>56477668
hedges / bears came back from lunch

>>56477687
It will close around 417/418.

>>56477691
BUY SIGNAL?!

>>56477703
Damn must have been a 5 martini lunch seeing as how it's 3:15.

>>56477706
Nope.

>>56477712
but it's down 50% and stocks go up, right? that's how all stocks work

>>56477716
TLT is not a stock

...I did it again
FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>56477709
12:15pm here on the west coast

>>56477631
>>56477547
To expand on >>56477602 slightly there is a point where volatility gets so high that it just keeps going until it exhausts itself. Somewhere in the 90th-95th percentile. It's helpful to look at more than just the VIX though. Pull up some ratios between the different parts of the cash VIX term structure, backtest ratios between fixed constant maturity points on the VIX futures term, e.g. 30 day constant maturity and 60 day constant maturity. Do enough work and it'll be clear where the positive EV is for leaving VIX alone, shorting it, and going long. It's counterintuitive but it works. I know because I've been doing it a long time

>>56477728
>the west coast

>>56477727
What you do

>>56477706
Instead of TLT just buy US 10y.

>>56477738
Don't hate us because you aint us.
To be fair it is expensive to live here but the weather is worth it once you get established.

lmao algo's just killed every 0DTE calls

>>56477766
Many such cases.

>>56477738
The best coast

Close.
At.
The.
Lows.

>>56477762
It was paradise 30 years ago. I was there. Damn shame. At least you fags haven't put condos in Yosemite or anything yet.

they have pumpkin shakes right now :^)

What is the most hype ww3 matchup?
India v Pakistan
Israel v Iran
China v Taiwan
India v Canada
Russia v Ukraine

GD, LMT, NOC

>>56477740
I fucked up

>>56477781
based. get me one

>>56477783
For me, it's India-Pakistan. High elevation, mountain warfare with inept protohumans. Should be comedy gold.

>>56477783
>bugmen vs araps

Fucking boring. Give me kino like UK vs US.

new
>>56477803
>>56477803
>>56477803

>>56477780
still plenty of comfy places outside the major cities.

>>56477781
Can you pick me up a hot dog and a pumpkin shake? Thanks homie

>>56477742
yields right now are decent enough if you want to allocate a portion of your wealth, but personally I'd just buy TIPS. Why take on currency risk over inflation expectations that are implying lower what we've actually realized this past decade?

>>56477827
I liked Cali when I visited but south Florida will always be home

>>56477801
going to be uk vs uk diversity here pretty quick