/biz/ - Business & Finance

Anybody know if Cut Saw Mint is legit?

Also is it just Gold & Silver...
Or should I be stacking copper too?

>>56456048
premiums on copper are crazy, but no harm in holding on to a bucket of pre-82 pennies

>>56456104
>Catalog
thanks fren

>>56456048
Don’t go out of your way to buy any copper. But if you happen to find copper pennies you might as well hand onto them, or if you’re in the right job, discarded copper wire scraps.

>>56456048
Platinum & Palladium

If you're new to pmg threads please seriously consider that these threads are made by greedy silver merchants who want to sell you retard rocks at 232% premiums. If something big is going to be happening, YOU WILL BE THE LAST TO KNOW. Only spend what you want to donate to your enemies! DO NOT BUY SILVER! Do not buy silver. DO NOT PANIC BUY SILVER! This is how you get ripped off. The first rule of silver stacking is do not buy silver. So what are these scammers doing? Telling everyone day after day about their stacks and to buy silver. Do they have anything to gain by recruiting more stackers? Yes they can sell you $100 of silver for $698 and then buy it back for 43 cents. If silver was such a good deal would they really be telling everyone?

>Main article: Northern Railway of Guatemala
>In 1889, the government of General Barillas established a contract with Henry Louis Félix Cottu, of Paris, France for the construction of the northern railway with the following conditions:

>Cottu took out at 80% net gold a loan that the Government of Guatemala would issue worth $21,312,500 gold, equivalent to 106,562,500 francs in bonds of $20.00 gold or 100 francs each; which would accrue interest at 6% per year and would be amortized over a period of 45 years at a rate of 0.5% per year.17 The liquid proceeds of the loan - equivalent to $17,050,000 gold - were to be invested

mhmm, might be onto sumthing

>>56456189
Lmao do you pick up and save discarded cigarette butts and McDonald's French fry containers too? Lmao yall retard flush away your $$$$ on the silver scam and then resort to being garbage collectors because you're broke

I did it again lads
I Slurped

>>56456029
Where's the cheapies?
Is it time to buy more?

>>56456104
based copper penny hoarder

how do we feel about this new design panda bros?

>>56456409
Nothing still gets near the 2022 design

A world where silver is $1000/oz is a world none of us *want* to live in. You really think a nigga is juss gon sell his house for my shinies?

yes

>>56456286
Not reading all that

Just bought another 10oz bar

>>56456286
meds

>>56456286
Just bought some interesting propaganda coins. Can’t wait to have the coin autists interpret.

>>56456409
Unless the new design makes it one troy ounce again I could care less.

3 months of stacking. Feels good.

>>56456845
Tasteful stacklet. Refined. My stack is now a cluster fuck. I remember those calm and organized days.

>>56456870
My stack can only be described as a clusterfuck. Just a little bit of everything along with an assload of krugs.

>>56456286
ill stick to sovs

>56456286
>if it really happened wouldn't it be on the news?
Reddit tier logic.

>>56456845
Based Asahi stacker.

>>56456870
Thanks, I'm a bit OCD about keeping a relatively homogenous stack but ultimately it's about premiums. As long as these are good deals I will avoid the chaotic stacking.
>>56456935
I want a 1kg next.

>>56456935
Lmao, post your losses

>>56456894
How much have you lost so far?

>>56456845
Lmao you have your little treasure chest your gay redddit figurine and $1000 of losses. 10/10 silver scam victim personality

>56457023
>losses
I've only lost spending power of paper, and gained wealth of silver.

>>56456845
Put that kook back in it's capsule you mong.

>>56457124
Nah, I don't like the way plastic feels when I fondle it.

>>56456910
C u t e feets!

>>56457167
>fondles a kook

>>56457043
This dude getting upset over an anime figure

>>56457009
I respect the desire for low premiums. I think I got caught up in the compulsive “INEEDTHEMALL” mindset and suffered some serious premiums because of it.

Outside of meme coins and the few nations whose designs I like (krugs, libertads, and pandas), going forward it’s low premium junk from the local boomer coin shop and bulk tubes/10 oz bars online. Funny enough, tubes of generics and many 10 oz bars are lower or the exact amount as kilos per ounce. Did the math yesterday and was surprised.

>>56457217
Lmao you evolved from
>I love huge premiums
To
>I sometimes love huge premiums

Only 23 more steps until you realize silver is a scam

>>56457388
Kek. Loving these memes. Link the one with the autograph. Forgot to save it.

Remember everything these silver scammers say is backwards

The $$$$ is the only real currency and its getting stronger

Silver is worthless garbage and it's going down.

>>56457043
Hey you tried to ridicule me the other day when I became a stacklet, so here's a better shot of my new stack (started on Saturday).

>>56457483
Nice stack anon. Keep up the good work! Don’t worry about iqdelete.

>>56457483
Woo hoo
Nice stack anon
Cute stack guardian

>>56457483
You have an eye sir. Look at that.

>>56457522
>>56457554
>>56457555
Thank you bros, it's my first venture into PMs and I've been meaning to get on it for months. I'm instantly in love with the feeling and sound of silver. Gonna get some gold next moon.

Everyone who bought silver loses at least 80%. The funniest though are the ones who never sell. They lose 100%. Then they off theyselves and mommy throws their retard rocks and tranime figurines in the garbage

Does anyone actually enjoy the superpit releases from Perth Mint? While its a nice local thing from australia, the coin itself is always to busy almost being an eyesore with all the lines. Certainly a breath of fresh air from animals, ships and other common colection but stil...

>>56457655
The text font is an even worse eyesore.

>>56457655
Fucking atrocious lol.

>>56457216
That's the resident fudbot IQDELET. You can tell from their use of LOSSES.

crypto nerds will seethe

Predictions on crusader secondary market price?
I can't wait to lose all that money I spent on memecoin premiums.

>>56457655
Damn, maybe I should run over all my rounds on concrete, I can probably get a similar design.

>>56457655
I like the older one (ones?) a lot more.

>>56457655
The Perth Mint is run by unhinged demented commies, its most likely some satanic hidden imagery within the design that they and the rest of the british commonwealth states mint on to their coins.

Silver is the bargain of the century and you are frankly a fool if you are not taking advantage of it, seriously.

>>56457655
No, I'm not even a fan of their new Sydney Opera House coin. I'll stick with the animals.

>>56457182
I'm a degenerate.
>>56457217
I feel that. There are a lot of beautiful coins I have been tempted to get but I keep telling myself I don't want anything that is too beautiful to sell when that day comes. The Kookaburra is my one exception because I love the birds and wanted something to play with on my desk.

>>56458085
The only fun in those is the anticipation of losing, and you just scratch the win check boxes?
Monster

God bless the local coin shops and online merchants for scamming these antisemitic retards of their McPaychecks. We are saving lies, helping the economy and propping up the $$$$$$$$

I'm thinking of giving my kids and all my nephews and nieces and ASE every year for their birthday and Christmas. From birth to 18 that would be 36oz of silver

>>56458100
Scratch off lottery tickets are a better investment than silver because unlike silver there is a small chance younwin

>>56458138
based and comfy desu

>>56457483
My man you’re giving Israel a shekel every time you respond to our lovely shillbot.

>>56458085
The common dogma with most stackers is making two separate piles; the ones you’ll sell for slaves when the happening happens and the pile you’re giving your children or getting buried with.

>>56458138
Good idea they can sell them to me or my relatives for $3 when you let them leave the house and they will learn what an idiot you were for getting scammed

56458160
Lmao you pay them a 40% premium everytime you buy retard rocks

Cook Islands mint has extrinsic value

always good to have a small stack nearby for fondling.

Havint bought any pms since 2020 these prices just to rich for my blood

t. Started stacking late 2017-2020

>>56457217
Ya if you catch sales there's almost no difference on big bars vs 1oz rounds lately. That won't always be the case though, so slurp now! Any cheaper 1oz bars were blown out in hours everywhere in the spring; I'm not sure why exactly 1oz bars were in so much demand, but I'm guessing premiums will shoot back up again soon.

>>56458216
I am craving another trip to the coin shop for some Morgan’s, halves, and mercs. Been too long and I have some cups to fill purely for fondling.

>>56458205
nice

>>56458283
Just looked it up and it’s bizarre that tubes of bars are more expensive than philharmonics?! Why the premium? They’re just generics? I’ve never been a bar fan anyways. Until you reach 10 oz there’s really no fun in it.

>>56458205
sexy

>>56458303
GSM has bars for $24.45 rn.

>>56458194
>>56458205
What was the premium on that slab, fren? One time buy or do you stack them regularly?

>>56458327
find bullion prices . com doesn’t show it but I appreciate the tip. Still not a fan of bars but maybe I’ll get the OCD urge to load some tubes someday.

Shout out to the greatest bar design:

so uh

The US military is raiding US silver stockpiles now

https://youtu.be/zTTpGxKbZvU?si=euw1tmDNHjhGvXJr

they just came and took everything

>>56458382
Theyre selling for roughly 200 shipped on APMEX and thats ungraded. I outbid someone for it on Ebay who was stupid.

>>56458427
wtf?
this could be the beginning of whatever the next shitshow is

Why do 1 oz silver bars cost slightly more than 1 oz silver rounds?

>>56458463
because they're so magnificent

>>56458049
this is particularly true if you are in the US
people using the USD are in a unique position to buy cheap silver with a strong currency
best of both worlds

>>56458463
1 oz silver bars are slightly harder to make than rounds, i guess

LET'S GOOOOOOO DIAMONDBACKS!!!!!!

>>56458505
rectangles, squares, and circles
which shape is more difficult to make?

>>56456409
Extremely cute. Where did you find this? I've been searching the past few days to see if the 2024 design was unveiled yet, but I couldn't find anything.

>>56458279
Exactly, the best way to get rich is simply don't buy silver. Lmao but these retards can't help theyselves, addicted to losing

>>56458526
Do you buy those gold fractionals in a tube or individually? Or in a multiple deal? Basically high premiums or semi-reasonable?

>>56458526
>what shape is the hardest to make
Pickle

Remember when CUX got scammed, lmao and then he bragged and other losers simped

Did he get finessed

>>56458646
1/10th oz AGEs
i ordered 10 at the same time. definitely payed a little more premium but wasn't too bad at the time (late 2019/early 2020ish)

>>56458411
None of those engines find everything, but ya, their regular branded bars are pretty ugly lol. They do make the best art bar ever created though:

>>56458660
NOOOOOOOOO
STOP EXPOSING ME FOR BEING A TARD WHO GOT SCAMMED BY CHINK FAKES FROM ALIBABA
Please IQDELET, my reputation is on the line, i can't be seen getting scammed AGAIN, or i'll lose all credibility here.
Have mercy ffs, i promise to stop being an antisemite..

>>56458496
you could kill a man with that

>>56458085
> using kookaburra as scratchy coin

>>56456250
Palladium should be cheap and I want some, but coin prices are still here like nothing happened. Maybe all palladium coins are too rare so they ALL are numismatics.

>>56458802
I like that it comes in a slip so you can hold it naked and but it back but I didn't expect it to have such sharp edges.

>>56458427

>>56456286
>The first rule of silver stacking is do not buy silver.

I do not like dialectics, tovarisch. I better buy more silver. Down with bourgeoisie.

walmart doesn't have any more PM discount deals, bros. it used to always have at least one

>>56458902
Ya, mines a little fucked up on the sides in spots too...like sone kinda release agent maybe caused some milkiness. I'm trying not to touch it much til I can find a case that fits, and also do I don't slice myself lol.

Imagine thinking you'll ever get a blowjob for a mercury dime when people won't even take 10 ounces of silver instead of a chocolate bar.

https://youtu.be/bYhTFz_SGw0[Embed]

SLV is real silver.

You'd be better off stacking Palmers "chocolate" than FAKE (physical) silver.

>>56458850
sudo apt install cheapies

>>56458953
Yeah you should it's literally the worst investment you could make and it reinforces your identity as a broke loser scam victim

>>56459065
Lmao these tards buy silver, pay a 40% premium, lose 67% to inflation wait 10 years and the price doesn't even go up

>>56459004
This is another level of clownish. I have no idea if actuall shill, just troll or comrade in silver trying to make some FUD to keep the price low. Spasiba anyway.

>>56459107
Lol why is this retard seething so much over silver?

>>56456845
You’ve got a kook, there’s hope for you yet

>>56459142
bot or paid shill, they have been going hard lately

>>56459142
First day here, right?
I present you IQDELET, our resident shillbot, who also landed a jannie position on /biz/, called like this ever since Kek blessed him with this ID.
He's been around here for what,.. close to a year now? Never missed a single thread, sometimes making up to 1/4th of the replies, and with at minimum 25 posts/thread. He was also very active on /SETF/ on pol, using the same spam tactics but even worse (up to 100 replies per thread, yup...).

Sometimes using differents IPs, sometimes under a single one. Most his posts are ctrl+P spam he post in every thread. Never got banned a single day for spamming, even though we called for the mods to do their fucking job countless times, but since he's part of the moderation team on this board he ignore all the complains concerning him obv.

>>56459142
Also it's been theorized he's an advanced bot, as the ones used by Unit 8200 with Team Jorge on twitter and the likes, since he can't read nor answer pictures. And because there is no 8 hours breaks from his schedule. But some of his answers are clearly made by a human, so it's probably a mix of both : most the time a bot, then from time to time a (mossad agent?) take the relay for new materials.
He exclusively target silver, and we aren't sure who is payrolling him.

These silver scam victims are literally tricked out of their valuable fiat paper $ for shiny retard rocks.......oh yeah and the funniest part is the scam victims cry non stop that they hate the scammers.....but not for being scammed! but for no reason at all because they are low iq antisemites. Kektop!

>>56458902
>We call this one the "Huge Premium on assorted ugly garbage collection

>>56459419
>calling the jesus bar garbage
ok now we know you're a jew

I’d really just like to take a moment to thank IQDELET for constantly bumping the thread, day and night, and keeping us at the top of the catalog. Thanks buddy!

>>56459437
I mean.. his favorite insult is "antisemite!", doesn't leave much room for debate kek.

Good morning M8's. Maybe they can't afford silver in Australia or something and come here to seethe.

>>56459370
I will give you a Mercury Dime if you can coherently explain what "Kektop" means.

>>56459458
Right, also i've not been totally correct in my previous assertion, he did leave the general for a while, it was last September to October, when silver dipped to $18. It was very comfy, sadly silver went back straight up and so did IQDELET.

>>56459486
i made a goyslop ai version your image

>>56459349
>Unit 8200
Never heard of this. Links if you have them please
>>56459437
Jesus was a Jew

I now have 10 Ben's and 10 Walking Liberties on order.

>>56458449
Love those Justice coins, thinking about ordering a tube soon

>>56459550
Good man.

>>56458507
Looking good rn

>>56459615
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_8200
Cyberwarfare & SIGINT units of the IDF, also dubbed Psyops 82.
All their best agents end up occupying key roles at the Silicon Valley and on huge scams (shitcoins and NFTs were FULL of them). Mashinsky and most his team from Celsius were U-8200 agents for example. Same goes for Bancor. Some were involved in the blackmail collection of materials for Epstein, etc..

>>56458573
google, went to a reddit post....
love pandas

>>56459615
Also an important note to understand why 4chin became so horrendous since 2016 :
>Unit 8200 is the largest unit in the Israel Defense Forces, comprising several thousand soldiers.[6]
Most of them being talentless spammers instead of genius haxxors, they end up trying to change optics on fb, twitter... and BBC posting on /pol/.

Which was made very clear two weeks ago when Israel got Hamas'd hard, the number of BBC threads dropped down to literally 0 for over a week after Oct. 7, as they were too focused over potential moves from the Hezbollah, Iran, etc..
Some anons with gathering data tools on pol archives posted graphs and it was very telling to say the least kek.

>>56457655
Designed for chinks, just like new BMWs

>>56459796
>>56459701
I never saw anything like it when the Israeli False flag occurred. I was able to see them all over the fucking place. Hope more info on this group shows up /pol/ in the future. Thank you for the information.

>>56459846
>I was able to see them all over the fucking place.
Yeah, they switched to pro-Israel, anti-Palestine posting at an insane rate, like half the board was literally IDF spamming trying to praise Israhell, couldn't be any more blatant.
It was the same exact shit when Putin started his MO in Ukraine, absolute flood of pro-Ukrainian posting in the cringiest, most inorganic fashion imaginable.

And of course... when silver started to gain some momentum after the GME debacle. It was to a lesser extent, but it still was painfully obvious.

Why did yall decide to buy silver
A. Because buying shiny rocks will destroy the Federal Reserve
B.You are an incel and were promised that if you bought a dime for $4 girls would magically like you
C. The zombie apocalypse is happening in 2 weeks and then starving people will give you food in exchange for rocks they don't want
D. Because giving your enemies all your money is how you win

>>56460041
B

>>56459886
They have people on here shilling drafting Zoomers to our next meatgrinder. They’re so awful.

>>56460041
A

The answer is always pretty, shiny rocks and has been for thousands of years and there's nothing they can do to change that. It makes them so angry.

>>56459795
Google dot com? Wow, I'll have to try it some time. Beautiful panda pic!

>>56459795
Pandas are just neet vanity coins for impulse buys honestly. I don't regret buying them but they're honestly a dumb purchase.

>>56456029
I gifted a friend a silver eagle I had

>>56460056
>mfw i drop the dime

>>56460159
I’m not going to be able to sit here and stack while this all blows over am I?

>>56460143
Actually, pandas are the smartest coin purchase because they are cute.

>>56460143
nothin wrong with pandas
plenty of people will pay a premium for them
>in before they're all fake cuz china
fortunately this dumb belief only exists on 4chan

>>56460149
My dad gave me an ASE a couple years ago and it started me on this whole thing

>>56460143
The only silver that's not dumb is real paper silver SLV. Retards here hate it though they love paying 40% to 365% premiums

>>56460201
>>56460143
Not as dumb as the tard who brags about buying these for $300 made in China of course

>>56459281
Janny teams on all the boards I visit are comped. A lot of mods too. You see some draconian moderation, yet obvious shills are left unfettered and their generals not deleted on sight.
All a part of making this place unattractive for those outside of the globohomo mindset. Slowly but surely.

>>56459470
Australia is the third largest producer of gold.

>>56460433
What's comped is your brain, you fell for an obvious scam now you h8 discussing anything about precious metals on a board to discuss that

All you do is post pictures of meme coins and tranime figurines and say dumb stuff like it's smart to pay huge premiums on a commodity. Justify your decision to lose all your money on a scam or get lost creep

I am a firm believer that IQDELETE is a government project

Been thinking about going for some of the US commemorative half dollars and have almost convinced myself to go for graded coins, since they’re kind of silly expensive might as well get verified ones. They’re all oriented with interesting design upside down though. If you send a coin in can you request the orientation in the slab or do they have rules about which way they’re presented?

>>56460337
YWNOASAMWRPO8
(You Will Never Own A Silver Ashtray Made With Pieces Of Eight)
keep seething & sharting in your IDF diapers, IQ

>>56460483
i believe it
the government can't have silver buying turn into some massive organic movement

>>56460540
I think even moreso, Anons buying silver and networking becoming a massive organic movement.

All we'd need is one networking event where we get anons working with anons to form a parallel economy

>>56460496
>do they have rules about which way they’re presented?
obverse up and reverse down in coin orientation.

so no, I don't think you can ask them to mount the coin reversed or upside down

>>56460531
I can buy as many as I want but why would I waste $20 for toxic waste from china?

>>56460483
Me too, or big banksters, which is the same thing in the end. The eye opener for me was back when i delved in the CIA's Vault 8 folders from wikileaks back in 2015. That's when i realized how seriously glowies and their handlers takes memetic warfare an others jungian concepts surrounding psychology of the masses.
We are at constant war with them to keep our free will and resist their psyops. I wish it only was schitzo delusions, but this is the world we live in..

>>56460576
Uggggggghh slabfags are the worst

>>56460590
just buy some lighthouse quickslabs and stick the coin in upside down if you want

>>56460540
Lmao the government hates you antisemites they love it as do i when you get scammed on silver. Easy profit!

>>56460580
Please go on then, show me where i can purchase this model online. If you do i swear before you to sell all my silver and use the money to purchase whatever (((stock market))) crap you are shilling and will post evidences. Do it. Prove me wrong, you have the opportunity to humiliate me, so go on IQ.

>>56460603
The slab is the worst part to me only considering putting up with them to have graded versions since the commemorative halves are such a collectible. The least they could do would be to print their logo shit right side up on the reverse side.

>>56460638
>The least they could do would be to print their logo shit right side up on the reverse side.
not sure how you'd do that without making the slab 2 inches longer.

They're already bulky crap as is.

>>56460629
>>56460583
Me calling out these scam BOTS and their victims is my way of showing them love. Going along with peoples fantasies like they’re real causes schizophrenia. I’ve seen people in my life go from sane to batshit crazy when they start pretending something is real that isn’t. I wouldn’t be surprised if these freaks now actually think paying YUGE premiums to their enemies is smart. They don’t need more silver they need serious mental help and intense honesty. You can’t go along with their lies or it will break their minds.
Silver is not an investment
Paying premiums on a commodity is Le Big Dumb
The $$$$ is king
A worthless rock won't buy you a virgin
You lost 80% on the silver scam
It's gone forever
Coin merchants get rich by making you poor
You gave all your $$$$ to people you hate
There are no bad words only intentions
Turns out I’m their only real friend they have left

>>56460647
Just flip the label, it could still be on the bottom

>>56460473
>tranime
Cool it with the antisemitism, IQDELET. Your handlers won’t like that at all.

>>56460629
Kek you must have been drugged out 0f your Gourd when you bought that garbage and now you ingest toxic metals every time to smoke more drugs

>>56460661
but then you have to deal with all the people whose OCD prefers the labels be at the top on both sides.

can't please everyone.

>>56460681
>can't please everyone.

I mean they could, but apparently they can’t even be bothered to flip a coin if requested, fuck slabfags

>>56460712
they might, you could ask.

I don't think they will though because you're not the only person that's going to be owning or looking at that slab. They want it standard so it doesn't look weird on the shelf next to the other slabs when you sell it.

>>56460656
>Paying premiums on a commodity is Le Big Dumb
Ackshually, silver might be one of the commodity with the lowest premium on earth, and gold isn't too far behind either. Try to buy copper/coal/iron/coffee beans/lead/wheat/soibeans/etc.. at their respective traded market prices.

For reference, a ton of charcoal is traded at $136/ton on the markets. In your grocery store you will pay $20 for 10kg bags. Well over X10 compared to the market valuation. Try it with grains, it's even more absurd. Wanna know how much the ton of flour is traded for, while you buy your 1kg bag at $1.20 lol? Or even better : lumber?
Meanwhile, we get charged an extra 5-10% for a finished product who's a pain to transform in smaller denominations? When everything else is sold at +1000%? Wow call the nothingburger police!

>>56460680
Sorry to disappoint you IQ's IP n°3, but it's just tobacco, i don't smoke pot. Rolling my own cigs allow me to save on cash so i can purchase more gold & silver.

>>56460496
how much?

>>56460217
I’m hoping it’ll do the same

>>56460766
all the silver and gold fake like that ashtray?

I buy both gold and silver, but why is silver so much comfier? It's so calming to look at.

>>56460892
Because you instantly lose 40% when you buy silver

>>56456286
just rolled to the bottom of the read and this was the most informative post. holy shit. is it nft?

>>56460787
I don’t know, I just grabbed the picture, but I’m sure you could find it by searching that title on eBay. They all seemed to be in the 150-300 range

>>56460983
I'd avoid any slabbed crap if i were you. No good deal to be made there, but for the (((grading company))) of course

>>56459843
can you elaborate on this?

>>56461134
The pit coin looks like the tiered rice paddies of rural China. It’s subliminal.

>>56461157
i meant the bmw. i'm not invested in this silver bs enough to care about coins yet

>>56460972
anyone? why should i buy silver coins vs silver paper?

>>56461178
Oh. Of course,
Anon is a paid shill for BMW.
You’re supposed to go take a look at BMW’s exciting new 2024 lineup, FEATURING an all new Electric vehicle, here’s the shocker…. 100% Electric. That’s right. The engineers at BMW are announcing an all-electric model with the same sleek design and precision you’ve come to expect from BMW.

>>56461178
look at the recent design for most recent german cars. it isn't just bmw. they realize their clients don't like a lot of the newer designs, but the designs aren't really for us. they're for china.

>>56461178
for instance, what the fuck did they do to the new m2?... the last one was one of the best looking cars they've ever released. they realize people don't like that ugly ass front bumper.

>>56461194
For eons, man has lived by one single truth, that a bird in your hand is worth 2 in the bush.
That was the past.
Now we are in the future.
ZOOM! ZOOM!
With data and technology progressing at the speed of innovation.
The educated investor meets technology where it meets you.
Introducing Paper silver, where 10000 in the bush is worth one in the hand. A revolutionary new way to invest. Remain hands free, and let multinational corporations do what they do best, take control of your assets and finances. Paper Silver, digital dollars for digital assets.

>>56461254
buy guns then, bullets, vehicles, underground bunkers, off-grid farms, why the fuck are you buying silver coins from china?

>>56461249
>>56461230
>>56461200
yeah that sucks for bmw lovers but bmw price is gonna go up

>no good deals on ebay auctions to slurp for 2 days
zzzzz... boring! Can i teleport to friday evening already? All the best auctions ends during the weekend anyway

>>56461194
Why should you buy silver at all?

>>56461314
>buy guns
>bullets
>vehicles
>underground bunkers
>off-grid farms
Most people here already bought that stuff decades ago.
I have a few underground bunkers on my off grid farm. I try to spread out my bullets and guns evenly between them.
All of my 3 vehicles have bullets and guns in them.

>>56461344
I prefer digital assets for a digital future.
I wish I could convert my off grid farm, bullets, and guns into a digital asset. However I still need a place to eat poop sleep. As soon as they come out with that brain chip I plan on liquidating myself into a jar with a bunch of electrodes attached to it, and just GOING DIGITAL. Ya know? Like fully digital.

>>56461368
Most people here are completely broke they gave all their $$$ to their enemies in exchange for batbois and pickle Rick's and Chinese made ashtrays

>>56461393
>Most people here are completely broke they
God damn boy. Are you some kinda spy?

>>56461344
to make number go up
>>56461368
keep going you can't have too many of those for what's coming and even if it never comes, you can just sell all that shit for higher price and take a vacation. that's what i will do too when i moon

>>56461410
>keep going you can't have too many of those for what's coming
Dang, you’re scaring me now
What’s coming?

>>56461399
No, these silver scam victims brag about how much they lose while crying they have to wait 2 weeks to lose their next $50

>>56461426
>No, these silver scam victims brag about how much they lose
Never seen that before, but I guess you’ve been here longer than me. I know the crypto bros are constantly posting losses in their “poor folio” threads and having contests about how poor they are. They are always mad and typing in full caps with emojis and shit freaking out. I like this thread because I don’t see any of that

>>56461444
Well silver is the same price it was 10 years ago while inflation is over 50% and these tards paid a 40% premium. All of then lost money

>>56461456
>Well silver is the same price it was 10 years ago
Must be a stable coin!
Stable.
Coin.
Kek
> while inflation is over 50%
Guess the dollar fell in value by 50% not good. I’d rather not have something that falls 50% so quickly sounds like those crypto bros

>>56461470
How much was bitcoin 10 years ago?

Mr. IQ Delete, do you mind if I call you IQ.
I was looking at a few major bank stocks. They manage all those $$$$.
This year alone they’ve all dropped by 15 to 25%. And then you say even the dollars are down 50%. Hot damn. You should use your talents help those guys out.

>>56459643
How many kennedys?

>>56461486
>How much was bitcoin 10 years ago?
What the hell? are you my wife?
I’m downstairs honey!
Look it up for yourself. Kek

>>56458850

>>56458463
added copium

>>56456048
I'm up to 357 copper pennies now. Nickels are also a great way to get copper. I just hit 200 of those too.
I keep every nickel and every copper penny I receive.
I even have 800 zinc pennies, will probably cash them in but with the way things are going, they may surpass face value too. They're already worth 60% of a cent.

Good job, most retard stackers lose 80% or more. Congratulations you've only lost 30% plus your time

>Good job, most retard shills lose 80% or more. Congratulations you've only lost 30% plus your time
When shills imply that silver in an investment, they already loose. We're not "investors" we're collectors.

56462374
Lmao, it's not an investment you retard scam victims flush 80% of your $$$$ guaranteed

Don't feel bad about silver scam victims they brag about losing $$$$$$ it makes they happy

>>56456048
dont get any minted copper. try platinum or palladium.

if you happen upon some industrial copper then keep that. hammer it into bricks if you dont have a furnace.

not worth the effort. copper spot price is $12.50 per kg. that means for a dinky $1000 stack of copper you'd be looking at about 100kg. unless You have a barn or something it's just a huge waste of space and incredibly unwieldy

>>56461368
I hope we never get to the point where we need underground farms and "off grid" vehicles. That's not a complete joke.

>>56460143
nah, the premiums stick. i stack most of the generic stuff as well, but pandas hold value the best in my experience. I can flip most my collection for profit even if spot price is down from when i bought.
>>56460201
amen
>>56460300
I swing trade SLV and SIL. also, fuck off. $3 premium on a generic $23 silver round is not 40%, fuck outta here with your nigger jew spam

>>56460433
I've received bans before for refuting IQDeletes posts before, mods and jannies are absolutely comped

>>56459349
Ya, the operators definitely step in and make posts manually sometimes, but it's not just PM threads they go after hard. Any alternative health threads draw their ire in a heartbeat and a few other fringe topics twist their panties too. I've noticed a huge increase in the level of sophistication in the bots the past few weeks, and this week there's been a big uptick in manual posts where someone read up a bit and put some thought into the reply. Those usually occur mid morning-noon or later evening EST. It's definitely a good sign for stacking, though I wonder what it means that they're ramping up efforts at this moment in time. That may not be a good sign in itself altogether.

>>56462743
Their mission is Broadband Full Spectrum domination of the entire world..
there is no limit to what they will do in their campaign of brainwashing, psyops, false flags, gas-lighting, indoctrination, reeducation, cancel culture, rewrite history, propaganda, any and all methods and tools at their disposal they will use

pbtid guy reminds me of those people who spam in the yahoo finance "conversations" sections of big stocks.
at least people take the bait on yahoo finance sometimes because it's 80% boomers using it.

>>56462743
Just thought of this but... maybe it is kikes but they sub a lot of it out. I've seen a few using talking points from 3 years ago recently, so that might tie in with subcontractors using hand me down toolkits/software with dated scripts. If that's specifically what it is and after 10 days of war in Isreal we seeing this ramp up in bot sophistication and manual posts, that might just be explained by mossad dudes trying to justify their positions to avoid fighting. I was actually kinda thinking that they must've had performance review or something recently, but this makes more sense and explains why the PM and other general bots were still active during the Hamas invasion, but demoralization shit on /pol/ was absent for days. We're getting the Indian subcontractors, and now their jew bosses are stepping in to generate more yous, justify their positions, and avoid war. That's my working theory at the moment kek.

>>56462844
Have you seen the latest Tom Cruise Mission Impossible movie?
[ *SPOILER ALERT* ]

It's all about a globally connected A.I. gone rogue literally turns into a ghost in the machine, hacks and spoofs damn near anything it wants.

kind of insane but the subject matter sure seems prescient. more predictive programming perhaps?

GM panda posters. Are you planning to get the 2024 in gold? If so, what size? I'll scope an 8g myself.

I just got a silver bar and it came sealed in a vinyl pocket, is vinyl safe for storing silver or should i take it out, it's not official mint packaging so won't affect value in anyway.

>>56462911
really depends on what it looks like IRL, I've only seen the rendering mockup. likely won't happen though, my sights are set on the '23 gold in 30g that I've been owing myself all year

>>56463012
The '23 in 30g gold would look so nice. You gotta post some pics when you get it! Sadly, the compounding Bidenflation means I probably can't afford a 30g or 1oz gold coin this year or next :(

>>56458216
I have a buffalo I but second hand that has a small scratch on it, I only fondle that to avoid damage to my other quality looking pieces that i keep in the protected cases

Reading IQDELET posts while running my hand over my stack and plotting my next purchase feels comfy. Like sitting on a porch on a rainy day.

>>56458875
platinum is a lot easier to get, but seems high premium for nearly everything

>>56461492
Kek, very nice.

>>56458660
Imagine just 1 day as IQDELET, being too retarded to differentiate between antique articles for the tourist trade made using genuine coins and modern Chinese trash.

With such pathetic ignorance on display every day it's no wonder he seethes so fucking hard, he clearly bankrupted himself and has been projecting and coping ever since.

>>56456325
>General Barillas

Hey Frogbro I went through the past few threads and saw the fresh pictures and discussion regarding your bracelet, it's a magnificent score. Based Bob gave you very good info and suggestions, though I think a chemical approach to removing the silver/solder may be possible. For refining gold it is typically melted with silver and diluted to ~25% gold so the nitric acid can dissolve the copper and silver, it isn't really effective at dissolving base metals from more pure gold so I think gold of .875/1000 purity should be resistant to chemicals that the silver and solder will be dissolved by. You will need to consult with a talented jeweler/goldsmith or experienced PM refiner for ideas if you decide to separate the coins. Some silver solders have a high melting point but others have a relatively low melting point, a jeweler may be able to identify just from appearance what type was used and advise accordingly. It's an awesome score fren, no need to try separating the coins before you get some guidance from Guatemalan specialist collectors, it is a very superior bracelet and may well be worth a hefty premium to the right person as-is.

>>56463234
same. a few more anti-silver posts and i might go down to my LCS and voluntarily pay nasty premiums buying some trashy rounds, just out of spite

>>56460041
A

>>56463234
>>56463382
With how bad iqdelet's posts are, I'm wondering if he's trying to actually get people to buy more. Making everyone think he's an agent and that this is "a good sign for stacking".

>>56464318
>the hero we needed but didn't deserve
Would be a shocking twist.

>>56460629
Frankly dude, as a coin collector, I highly doubt that's real. The coins are uniformly worn in a way that's highly suspect for antique coins, not to mention the fact that such an item would most likely be a period piece and thus not be in such good condition. If I were to buy something like this I would at the very least have it validated by a sigma.

>>56464304
Eyyyyyyyyyyyy

what's the best option for buying as close to spot as possible? i don't mind it being inconvenient

>>56464867
specifically 10oz silver

>>56464867
Go to findbullionprices and look for the spot deals. Besides that it will have basically the cheapest prices listed for generic and government silver sold on websites. Otherwise my recommendation is to just look on forums that sell silver where people will generally let stuff go for cheap, if you're fast enough.

>>56464888
Checked

Assuming you're in US, these two sites usually have the lowest prems
https://www.pimbex.com/shop-bullion/silver/bullion-bar/silver-bars-10-oz/
https://monumentmetals.com/silver/silver-bars/10-oz-silver-bars.html?page=1

>>56464895
>findbullionprices
you're going to make me buy a kilo of gold
>>56464920
thanks anon, those look like good options. i just want to be able to hold and feel money to put some value to it. getting a direct deposit every 2 weeks with no context makes me feel like i'm not earning anything.

>>56464972
They have options for generic silver rounds, I don't know what you're talking about.

>>56465070
the kilo of gold caught my eye is what i meant, not that I can safely afford that

>>56464867
The cheapest is sterling silverware/plates etc,
The cheapest silver you find find is probably online sales, in bulk, and paid with ACH.
APMEX iterally has 100oz bars for $.79 over spot right now.

>>56465220
i think i'll go to my local store. they have 5 kilo bars for $0.34 over spot per oz

>>56458427
Looks like the squeezening is finally upon us! My 100,000 shares of Bayhorse silver mine is gonna finally pay off in the next two weeks!

>>56459004
I’ve done this with a gold coin. Just asking normal people how much they think a 1oz American eagle is worth. Highest price I’d ever heard was $150.

>>56465343
That's pretty damn good. My LCS has everything like $4.00 over spot per ounce. I've never seen them do sales before either.
In fact, they mostly seem to be more of a coin dealer than outright bullion, although I am sure they have plenty in a safe for sale.

In the UK. Currently have 3 1oz gold Britannias, 7 1oz silver Britannias. Should i get some gold sovereigns as well?

>pApEr SiLvEr Is ReAl SiLvEr
Imagine being this much of a fucking retard.

>>56465414
>Should i get some gold sovereigns as well?
Hell yeah! Keep on stacking fren.

Why are silver bullion usually 999 and not 9999?

>>56465414
>7 1oz silver Britannias

>>56465448
It probably takes a more strenuous amount of filtration of the ore for basically 0% improvement in the quality.

>>56465478
I'd rather have one in ten thousand atoms with less or more than 47 protons than one in a thousand. But that's just me.

>>56465465
Yeah but the gold puts him at conquistador tier.

>>56465420
It is only now as we edge closer towards the abyss that we start to understand that the system only functions because EVERYONE forgoes consumption to invest their money back into the ponzi through 401k, insurance, taxes etc.
At the end of the day the heaping pile of toxic waste is the bond market owned by the entire world which is going to blow up in all of our faces. The bond market is literally the spent fuel rods that are piling up and starting to glow red-hot ready to melt through the floor.
The powers that be don't care about the true prices and costs of commodities because they already collectively own all of the corporations which offer far more leverage in terms of profits, jobs, and taxes. However the supply/demand issues still remain, and as a shining beacon of unleveraged safety silver will be forcefully moved higher in price to shake off investors and speculators so that the plebs will continue to eat spoonfuls of inflation.
The numbers of stocks, proxy commodities, bank deposits, leveraged real estate value, service jobs propped up by a $700BN trade deficit.
All of this will become actualized once the ponzi begins to run into real-world-shortages. The system serves internationalist interests and was never done on behalf of the American people despite benefit being conveyed to us indirectly. We are just as much of a fuel being tossed into the fire as the rest of the world getting sucked dry by the dollar.
Everyone fucking knows it and they are creating work-arounds as we speak. And issues and work-arounds for the dollar become apparent, Americans will be the LAST to know.

https://www.bellevuerarecoins.com/live-pricing/
the prices are great. i'm torn between the coolness of Morgan dollars, the practicality of bars, and the beauty of brand new rounds. do I just get some of each to start?

>>56465604
This is the most pretentious schizo brainslop I've read on /pmg/ in quite some time. Congrats.

>>56465644
Wrong. Paper debts are exponential in nature and the real world can never keep up with the input necessary to pay them back. Bankruptcy of some or all of it will happen and it will be actualized as leveraged assets collapsing in real purchasing power regarding off whatever happens to the price.

>>56465644
he's not wrong that US bond market health is inversely correlated to the price of gold/silver. considering that the US is 3-ish weeks from default with no Speaker, it is something to consider

Lmao look at all the butthurt from pointing out the obvious fact that silver scam victims have all lost at least 80%.

>>56465644
to add, look at the CDS rates. the chance that a US Treasury default will happen in your lifetime has doubled.

http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/cds-historical-data/united-states/5-years/

>>56465082
Oh ok. Yeah, that is the dream.

Buy silver and immediately lose 40% is quite the exciting value proposition

That's why they FUD you with this fear mongering
>>56465796

>>56465943
why do you shill on the behalf of bankers??

Lmao

>I'm buying silver for generational wealth the incel says

>>56465684
Good thing used based and redpilled stackers will be eating sardines in an underground bunker with silver bullion! We are so smart!

>>56465738
>just 2 weeks guise!
>just 3 weeks till doom!
>>56465796
>it'll totally happen in our lifetime!

>>56459065
>>56459107
same ID; samefag and youre retarded enought to reply to your own posts. Neck yourself

>>56465968
Silver has nothing to do with bankers since 1965


Why do you want to scam people into paying a 40% premium on a commodity?

anyways, how about them Rangers and DBacks?

>>56465604
> because EVERYONE forgoes consumption
That was the whole point of crypto, right? They market it as all cool, nextgen hi-tech and underground cyberpunk, but in the end it's just a liquidity sponge for stupidos. The old adage about a fool and his money, only they never had any real money to begin with, only debt-backed Federal Reserve notes. And that's going to take a lot of people by surprise, when they finally wake up one day to realise they never actually owned anything real, be it crypto, bonds, stonks.But even real estate is highly inflated and isn't worth nearly as much as they were tricked into believing.

>>56466013
And you were dumb enough to to brag here about buying a Chinese ashtray for $900 thinking it was Spanish dobloons

>>56466053
Lmao go buy more retard rocks with a 166% premium if you hate $$$

>>56466053
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WRESBAL
Bank deposits are already a liquidity sponge. Since the GFC they don't lend as much as they could. (Good, bad? Who knows)

People, i need some more of these coinerinos.
What's going on with the prices as of late?
I need to lower my average!

>>56465644
he's right, except.....
>>56465604
IMO, and this is where the argument evaporates and everyone resorts to namecalling, or the canned "it just CAN'T keep going like this".....IMO, it can. they can keep kicking the can down the street for a long, long time.
>BuT ThEy CaN'T!!! iT hAs to EnD!
this is the exact point that gets befuddled. they can. they will. WHY can't they? that's the point I don't see coming to fruition. americans will happily pay $35 for a gallon of gas and $25 for a single banana as long as they get their Goyflix and Goyslop and keep getting mediocre weekly handjobs from their plump wives.
IMO, we won't see the collapse in our lifetimes. I'm more than open to a sensible, reasonable debate about this sans namecalling and BUT EVERY EMPIRE IN HISTORY FELL BEFORE blah blah blah
the only thing the rulers in power are concerned with is what color carpet to redo their yachts with. why would they change anything? they're just gonna keep on keepin on.....
the ONLY legit argument to my point is that the money drenched rulers in power are NOT sitting pretty and are getting uncomfortable, having to sell their 7th castle because the money is tight, but I don't see it

>>56466260
I should add, the only thing i love more than silver is gold, and everyone should be stacking. i believe silver will go up tremendously in our lives. but it's just too far fetched to claim the American dollar is about to tank in muh 2 weeks and silver's about to become $500/oz. all the logic and theories everyone spews here are very logical and sensible, but this is a completely illogical, fraudulent, illegal and scam of a system, so getting into the nitty gritty of the economics is pointless when they can literally do whatever they want

>>56466093
Premiums are irrelevant. I only care about the street price. The dealer could charge 9000% premiums on a 1 oz coin, and I will gladly buy so long as it's < 24 euros for 1 oz silver, or < 1800 for 1 oz gold.

>>56466260
my counterpoint to that is that we'd sell out the next generation if it'd improve our lives now. "kicking the can down the road" is refusing to fix things the way they are.
compare:
not raising the social security tax -> kicking the can down the road
paying out current beneficiaries and ending social security -> selling out the next generation

not becoming energy independent -> kicking the can down the road
draining oil reserves to keep oil prices down -> selling out the next generation

we've done A for so long (since the 90s) that B will look more and more enticing over time.

when 3000 dollar gold? the fat samurai on kitco said only when nuclear warheads are deployed

>>56466390
I agree with you. I just don't see any of those things happening
>refusing to fix things the way they are
i think a lot of americans that are awake would like to, but again, why would the people who actually run the show do anything? they're drowning in money. their biggest personal problems are which sex trafficker to use for the underage buttfuck orgy this weekend. setting up the modern day american to be more financially secure does nothing for them and only eats into their profits, which means less children to buttfuck, smaller yacht collection, smaller bank balances to brag about to their chang billionaire friends. the people in power couldn't care less about us, even if we're starving in the streets

>>56465987
You are correct. The banking sector is where we literally put our resources. It is how we save money and defer consumption and make investments.
The problem is if we can see that the banks are operating solely on LIQUIDITY and not CAPITAL then it is a good time to be thinking about withdrawing your money from the ponzi and investing in tangible goods. Because the banking system is a black hole.
This is similar to somene who made Millions by investing in Bernie Madoff who decided to take his money out several years before he blew up. Those who stayed in got destroyed DESPITE sitting around making more money. The problem is once you suffer a 80%+ loss there is no recovery possible when the hole system is exposed for its ponzi nature. These losses are not accounting errors that can be made up with the click of a mouse. These are REAL WORLD SHORTAGES. All of the paper-millionaires who are living for free off of their portfolios will find out that that is not sustainable. How else can it be actualized other than loss of purchasing power and higher prices?
Because if the banks step in and monetize debts, it would not make sense that they devalue money but something like silver or gold (or any commodity) stay the same price. The markets can't do this indefinitely, because there is no accounting trick to create infinite resources and make economic losses disappear. There is no trick and all they are doing to lulling you to sleep so you will sit idly by while they spoon feed you inflation. Ripping off the band aid will come abruptly but only when the banks are ready to move PMs higher.
And when that happens your dollars and wages will be severely devalued and we will all be poorer because those "paper losses" we be actualized by all of us in this way.

>>56466620
Wow that's a lot words. You must think you're really smart lol

>>56466260
The problem is we are literally seeing the Petro-dollar come undone as well as the rest of the world stepping up to replace the dollar.
Economic systems are multigenerational and from your nigger-tier time preferences it probably does feel like it will never come to an end despite it literally bursting at the seams.
Real world economies NEED higher savings rates because they NEED savings and deferred consumption. Trying to propel an economy based on velocity of money along with tax/spend policies will eventually burn itself out. The bond market is slurping up immense amount of capital as we speak and these payment transfers create all sorts of operational inefficiencies that create more and more drag on the economy. The U.S. can barely create jobs and maintain economic stagnation without record levels of deficit spending. As the required amount of spending continues its exponential increase you will see real-world activity stagnage in comparison to the transfer of money required just to keep the thing from stalling out.
The system needs to deleverage but we probably can't survive it as the economy is so dependent upon the system of payments keeping everything afloat. If commercial real estate collapses then so too goes pensions and trillions of MBS paper. Banks implode. Hospitals implode. Student loan payments stop and so to it goes gov payments. Then the service economy stops. Tax receipts collapse. Welfare payments cease. Service economy goes under etc etc etc. You can't paper that over, either.

>>56466548
historically, people have been accepting of oligarchic leadership so long as they themselves are content. living the life of a pleb is really easy in the US--I've lived in places (Iowa) where 40 hours at Walmart a week will cover rent + groceries + maxed IRA with money left over*. the result is we have incredibly low voter turnout among the poor and uneducated--we're basically on the Roman grain dole.

* $26,000 from working 2,000 hours a year @ $13/hr. - ($1,238 in Federal Tax + $822 in state income tax + 12 * $800/mo for rent + 12 * $60 for heat+ 12 * $250/mo for groceries + $250/mo in gas + $6,000 Roth IRA contibution + $1,040 for Medicare w/ cost sharing) = $580 leftover after maxing out the Roth IRA.

>>56466748
Watch how you speak to your betters son.

>>56466620
>there is no accounting trick to create infinite resources
there is. the same one they've been using for the past X amount of years. and they don't need infinite, just enough to keep chugging along while inflation reaches comical levels. i agree when the system explodes, PMs will likely realize a value that is more accurate, and will go up in price... i just don't see the collapse happening any time soon. go watch 15 year old youtube videos of PM stackers reviewing their new xyz piece and half the jabbering dialogue is the same shit we're saying now: "it's gonna collapse any week now" "they've been printing money for too long and they're gonna call in their debts" "PMs will moon next year because of this technicality and that one and blah blah"
again, i have to clarify, because this is 4chan, the undisputed empire of extreme polar arguing, and no one understands gradients: PMs will go up, for sure, but economic US "collapse" and insane moon shots aren't happening in the next 20 years at least

>>56466748
verbosity is typical for autists
so is overanalyzing specifics while ignoring relevant generalities.

this is a sort of reverse apophenia, where a person sees existing patterns to the exclusion of their position in larger and more meaningful patterns. E.g., the global economy has a few similarities to a ponzi scheme, therefor it will collapse like a ponzi scheme. Like saying a zebra is similar to a zebrafish in some ways, so you can keep zebras in fish tanks. The conclusion doesn't necessarily follow from the facts.

>>56466787
any guesses as to what percent of people making 26k max out a roth? more than 1%?

>>56466748
He's the retard who gets scammed on fake coins from China so yes indeed he's very smart

>>56466820
it was an example of what is possible if you manage your money well. most people I knew spent that money on financing a car lol

>>56466748
>>56466823

>>56466777
>bursting at the seams
my point is that it's not, it's been "bursting at the seams" for decades, and I'm saying it can keep getting way, way, way worse for decades more.
>the rest of your post
i agree with everything you said. but none of that matters when Jacob Shekelstein can log into his fedreserve admin account and add another zero to the US dollar tab. again, you're applying logic, reason, facts, and straightforward economics to a system that's been fucking us over for 50+ years in the most illegal and fraudulent manner

>>56466861
>a system that's been fucking us over for 50+ years in the most illegal and fraudulent manner
the people that have actually been "fucked over" for 50+ have slowly gotten wealthier and wealthier, both in nominal dollar value and more importantly, in purchasing power and standard of living.

in fact if that's a fraud, boomers would very gladly sign up to ride it again, along with gen x and soon other generations.

>>56466787
>so long as they themselves are content
that's what I'm saying, everyone thinks they are. food is poison, entertainment is poison, most working men are happy to stick their dick in anything, and then there's the reward of raising a famry.... But when you bring up the fact that orange juice is $7 and filling up your BIG SUPER MAX BLACKED PICKUP TRUCK is $120, they just giggle "that's the way inflation works!" and that's literally the end of it.

>>56466886
True and all the retards here who complain about the FED have enough wealth to throw away on the silver scam thanks only to the FED. Without the FED they would be so poor they couldn't afford to be scammed

>>56466886
yeah well that's a different convo entirely, but proves my point that they're just offloading the deficit onto future generations (us)

>>56466908
>they just giggle "that's the way inflation works!" and that's literally the end of it.
because they bought a tangible asset (their house) and the more inflation hits you, the richer they get.

we love inflation, it's siphoning your work into our bank accounts.

>>56461613
dude, if the FFED still exists and we're all stacking zinc pennies, I will lose my mind.

>>56466908
Yep, no one cares about your shiny rocks and never will. No refunds

>>56466934
>they're just offloading the deficit onto future generations (us)
we're going to blame you for that.

if you had done what we told you, there's be no collapse. And in fact there may never be.

if there is a collapse though, we will blame you for causing it by rejecting the principles that kept it going for the last 65 years.

>>56466961
>if you had done what we told you, there's be no collapse.
>debt based economy
that's the thing, everyone already is doing what they're told to do. spend.

Lots of whining and crying by faggot shills.

The concise version is this: The debts/spending has to increase exponentially and not a single dollar can be paid back without spending X+1 on a perpetual basis.
Exponents do the following on a long enough timeline.
If we have a reliable method of spending money to make money and run a surplus then let's spend a quadrillion dollars next year. Why not? It creates more than it consumes, right? If we have a sure-fire method of generating free value then let's repeat it indefinitely until it stops working.

>>56466938
>>56466961
lol touché, well said, you are a true boomer

>>56466934
Looking forward to getting some 2024 Ellies if they're ever cheap

>>56466808
> 20 years
You just pulled that out of your ass, after saying nobody knows. So basically you're just a bullshitter.

>>56466988
gold and eagle needs to get the 2024s in and stout needs to start carrying these and arks.

>>56466961
> there may never be.
Every fucking empire in history has collapse, hombre. Every last fucking one. You're not special.

>>56467029
every business closes eventually. that doesn't mean you shouldn't invest/build/work for one

>>56456325
>106,562,500 francs
In 1889 money, that would be 1,417,797.5 ozt of pure silver.

>>56466980
>everyone already is doing what they're told to do. spend.
you're not getting married and turning out as many kids as the state will help you support

you're not taking joe jobs and working for the same employer for 60 years investing your retirement contributions into the stock market.

you're not buying houses you can only afford by getting married and working the same job most or all of your life.

you're not moving out of your parents' shadow and dealing with the real financial pressures of living on your own.

the system is set up for people that do those things, and failing to do them deprives you of any benefits we saw and you might get.

>>56466818
Well said.

>>56466828
GIWTWM

>>56467029
the system collapses with regularity. It gets rebuilt and started right back up again, because people vested in the system actually benefit from the collapse so long as it isn't permanent.

>>56467099
the richest people in history built their wealth in times of crisis. From Crassus to Buffett

>>56467138
yep

and even the middle class in the US is getting big money from collapse. Those that survived 2008 and 2020 saw their net worth rise exponentially along with purchasing power and standard of living.

>>56467150
Yea, but that is on the back of more deficit spending.
If there is less and less economic activity for more and more deficit spending then the play is to be on the implosion of the markets. But we can't guarantee that a depression will not be offset by inflationary moves by the central banks. (banks are scared of deflation, not inflation). For that reason you can't just assume you want to be short the market. The one thing you can bet on is that you will have LESS purchasing power and extreme economic malaise. Real money is what you need because it does will in deflationary periods and can not be diluted.
Pull some money out of the banks while you still can. Rationing is the only way out of a ponzi scheme/.

>>56467352
>Yea, but that is on the back of more deficit spending.
yes

I'll try to say it again in a different way

if the system implodes, they're just going to reboot it with some debts forgiven, all assets retained, and people that support the system just getting richer. We've seen it over and over, and there's no imaginary point in the future where it CAN'T be done.

>a ponzi scheme
ponzi schemes fail when they run out of new investors. This is never a problem in an investment pool that literally reproduces, and also imports other people's babbies.

even if it did collapse, people will just start it right back up again. Because it worked so well for everyone except apparently you.

>>56462557
better to have them when time comes then not and if time just does not comes you will have easier time selling those things then silver coins, bars or paper.
>>56462717
are pandas collectibles or actual high quality silver?
>>56462912
is silver actually valuable in these or it's just an nft? how much of the price depends on the quality and amount of silver or gold in it and by how much does the mintage affect the price?
>>56465539
would increase the price and lower interest and therefore lower the price so all that extra cost to increase the quality wouldn't increase the price of the silver 1:1 and that's why it's just you

>>56467404
>This is never a problem in an investment pool that literally reproduces, and also imports other people's babbies.
there are fewer people 0-10 than 50-60, despite immigration.

>>56467404
So we will be recapitalizing our banks, insurance funds, citizenry, state local and federal governments from scratch?
Yes, I agree. That's sort of an implosion is it not?
You also blow up all commercial paper, along with real estate and universities and hospitals too.
That's pretty much conceding the argument, right? You don't get to hit "reset" without some pretty serious carnage. Not this time.
America funds its $700BN trade deficit as well on the back of Treasuries. And what will that do our service economy? We won't be hitting the ground running for decades to attone for the shortfall we will experience due to nonstop consumer consumption with 3% savings rate across the board for decades.

shocked no one has baked yet, anyways new thread is up
>>56467576
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>>56467536
>there are fewer people 0-10 than 50-60, despite immigration.
yes, but even a reduced population constitutes tens of millions of people either born into the system, or moved here specifically to take advantage of the system.
>>56467555
>You don't get to hit "reset" without some pretty serious carnage. Not this time.
watch us.

even if the US stopped existing right now, the thing that replaced it would be exactly the same. Because it was incredibly successful.

>>56465796
and how does that prove that chance of US treasury default will happen is doubled?
>>56465943
can you elaborate on this, why do you lose 40% when you get silver coin instead of silver paper?
>>56466015
and this?
>>56466053
crypto is an infrastructure/service of secure, flexible and fast information exchange with unlimited scale. some information, such as monetary value is best displayed with numbers. it's abstract but more solid than gold and silver for sure.

>>56466982
so it's about managing the that growth right? as long as we stay on that curve prices will keep increasing but so will the profits. only issue is that salaries don't increase and education isn't getting better and freedoms and rights are being slowly taken away and worth of 1% is growing and worth of 99% is shrinking however 1% is getting closer to 0% and 99% is getting closer to 100% and that just sucks because with each passing day our dreams are being crushed and crushed again until there is no hope left anymore. imagine being born in a world where you didn't have that dream or hope in the first place. would it be better or worse? if you worry about that, then it's later and if not you're a bag of meat with no soul or even an ambition of being a fucking human

>>56467083
i guess they say what they mean and have no idea how to influence a child into

experience life, make mistakes while you can, have fun!

work hard, play hard, make money, spend it all, try to make more next time!

don't buy a house, actually it's better to be homeless because then you can be a slave wherever we will tell you to go!

leave everything your ancestors worked for and strike out into the world on your own so instead of enjoying comfy life you get to drown in debt!

system is set up for those people to prosper, but for those people to prosper, others need to make all the wrong decisions so that in the end they can't blame anyone but themselves. otherwise we would be in the next cycle already.