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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only Airbnb
https://safehouse.homes/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/ev2jTUKS


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

poorfag here
>bought 10 XMR @ $45
>still hodling
>rent is due
Hodl and struggle or take profit?
Fomo on becoming rich one day.

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>>56434383
>Hodl and struggle or take profit?
>Fomo on becoming rich one day.

>>56434391
Give it a rest, the devs left.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/17duyvo/seraphis_wallet_development_1_year_report/

"I admit right away that we don't yet have many hard results to show, i.e. very little actual reviewed code that has a chance to become part of the final Monero software, and no prototype of any sort yet, despite the almost full year that passed.

Personally, I have mixed feelings about that but wouldn't call it an outright failure."

>>56434581
>the devs left.

>>56434383
buy 10XMR of darknet market finest goods
make 20 XMR worth of profit, then rebuy XMR and hope we havent landed on the moon by then

When are we getting rich lads?

>>56434325
is LebAnon ok?

>>56434325
Is Moneros infinite supply good tokenomics? Is that why it always crabs?

is it good that monero doesnt pump, but also doesn't dump?

>>56434581
It's about some "wallet component" feature we probably don't even need anyway

its over

>>56437031
Yes, it means it's working as a currency

>>56434341
what is the source of the prev op image?

>>56436521
2025

>>56439773
Man, 2025 would be a good year to retire if that actually happened. But I'm not holding my breath. I think the best we can hope for is being able to survive the worsening surveillance of government and financial censorship from institutions and banks.

WHEN MOON

https://moneromarket.io/listing/cf44ce2e-6fb2-43c0-a691-e62b8b13e964

Hello guys, brand anon again. I'm doing a special /biz/ offer exclusively for you all until October 30th. I see a lot of you can't or are currently not able to afford something for 38 xmr right now so I'll throw you all a treat.

Message me on the monero market platform how much you are willing to pay for a complete guide (or just a logomark) and I'll be able to work with you + deliver all the brand work before Halloween. NAME YOUR PRICE!

Just don't forget to include the words "spoopy" so I know it's you guys. Please reach out :)

>>56442623
What can I get for 0 XMR?

>>56434325
I bought 1200 come back when it was $12, how am I doing?

Considering how badly these threads get slid and shilled against, the bitch's relative silence is starting to sound more and more golden.

>>56443264
>Considering how badly these threads get slid and shilled against, the bitch's relative silence is starting to sound more and more golden.
who the fuck is the bitch? wtf are you talking about? Do you need to practice your script more, Rajeesh?

>>56442633
>What can I get for 0 XMR?
Considering I put a lot of professional work in these, the answer is nothing :)

If you want people to be serious about using xmr as a way of payment, you need to be serious in your answers. Pm me your budget on mm

>>56443443
You're either a woman or retarded to get so emotional about anything you read online. If you have to ask, then you must have no bitch to begin with. Go whack off the shitcoin rally.

Is there any wallet that supports both Monero and Bitcoin Lightning?

>>56444353
>posts broken English
>calls others retarded
gr8b8m8

Dead shit coin. Stay poor idiot

>>56436712
The infinite supply means it remains more stable. Bitcoin is aggressively deflationary, which encourages hoarding instead of using it as a currency. This also leads to high transaction fees, which further discourages spending. Since Monero doesn't have either of these issues, it should eventually reach a state of equilibrium where the price remains consistent while encouraging normal spending habits. Monero will still struggle with scalability as more users jump in due to inherent slowness of blockchain technology, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it

used half a monero out of my stack to buy weed yesterday, feels good man.

We should be shilling XMR as a way to fund Hamas in Gaza right now. That is a real life application of XMR that will demonstrate its power.

Is there a good way to get prepaid/gift cards with Monero?
I'd go to Walmart and load one up with cash, but they tend to ask for KYC in the former case, or be extremely limited in who accepts them in the latter.
The place(s) I want to spend at don't sell gift cards either.

>>56434325
Any prognosis for Monero's faith in the upcoming bull market?

>>56446234
Just buy generic visas. I'm sure dreadit and some clearnet forums have solutions.

>>56446261

What does WW3/fake alien invasion mean for XMR?

>>56446261
Monero is suspectible to speculator manipulation it is clear. Some form of trickle down crypto volatility. We saw organic growth seem to find a bottom with low volume at 141. We will see where we end up after the moonboys are done pumping monerochan full of bits. If you dont have a stack of Monero you are NGMI in any war filled crypto finance timeline. it remains the decentralized private p2p currency of choice.

>>56447924
you hope your bag grows in value you dumb faggot

Enough with the cope you dumb faggots. Monero has been pissing sats for a solid year and muh "the price doesn't matter" isn't an excuse.

>>56448249
a year or so ago btc bottomed. As the Bitcoin virus continues to take over finance, people who aren't retarded and look at the code will notice "hey this thing called Monero does everything better".
>>56448214
The only thing I hope for is for banker niggers to get what they deserve. I want to see them jump off buildings like the good old days.

>>56448249
>Monero has been pissing sats for a solid year and muh "the price doesn't matter" isn't an excuse.

Only moonfags obsess about the price. Monero extremists obsess about adoption and making glowies seethe.

Kill yourself ASAP.

>Tfw youre too dumb for XMR

>>56448442
>Bitcoin virus continues to take over finance

Bitcoin ain't taking over shit, Wall Street isn't buying crypto for the tech i.e. to actually use it, they're buying the "cool new thing" to sell it to delusional rubes, they make money from the fees and commissions, always have.

>>56449461
>>56449505
You're a dumb fucking nigger

>>56449505
And even if they were to use crypto it will be their own CBDC atyle coin. They have 0 reason to use bitcoin and I have no idea why some people assume they will

>>56449559
>You're a dumb fucking nigger

Talk some more about the price, it's all so exciting!

Shitcoin missing the train again.

>>56449587
Post the exact same reaction images 20 more times, that'll make your gay post-collapse fantasies come true.

>>56449659

Seeing BTC dying a slow, humiliating death at the hands of an altcoin after 10 long years of undisputed black market dominance is satisfaction enough.

>>56448442
>As the Bitcoin virus continues to take over finance
Bitcoin is a swarm of cyber hornets serving the goddess of wisdom, feeding on the fire of truth, exponentially growing ever smarter, faster, and stronger behind a wall of encrypted energy

>>56449687

Fortune Favors the Brave.

???

>>56449738
>>56449687
Stop replying to yourself psycho

>>56449471
same

>>56434325
moNEGRO

Fucking idiot trash shitcoin. Throw ur shitXMR to binance that only the XMR exchange LOL

everything is pumping except this shitcoin fuck this

>>56450316
>>56450760

lol you know what to do

>>56449471
>>56450132
frens, XMR is easy-peasy to use.

It's just crabs all the way down.

>>56437459
No it's about the desperate dash to replace the insecure ring signature model with something that might stand a chance at beating Chainalysis. If you thought Bitcoin has slow development, imagine it moving five times slower but also needing to replace the entire cryptographic machinery Monero depends.

The clock is ticking and Monero's only saving grace is that the real money launderers, sanction evaders and cyber criminals aren't using it but instead a combination of Bitcoin, Ethereum, Tron and some bridges between. For now it can hide under the guise that its ring signature system still works, but that's only the case when the bad actors under real surveillance aren't using it.

>>56452388
>might stand a chance at beating Chainalysis
They can't even reliably track btc.
They are bunch of hacks that will come up with unreliable evidence everytime they need to.
Rings are trash but still miles ahead of everything else due to privacy being baked into the base layer and not some optional maybe bs feature.

—56452388
Kek shut the fuck up nigger and write a paper or post a source. Monero and the tech it incorporates is studied at the PHD level. You could get a Nobel prize if you prove ring signatures don’t work as implemented right now. Fortunately, Monero devs are literally 10 steps ahead and working on even more advanced privacy to ensure it stays at the forefront.

>>56452698
They don't need to do it reliably, just well enough to drastically reduce the leads they need to check in the real world.

>>56452845
>too scared to quote
You baggies really are the highest estrogen of all.

XMRsisters we're missing the entire bullrun again

>>56452388
>No it's about the desperate dash to replace the insecure ring signature model with something that might stand a chance at beating Chainalysis. If you thought Bitcoin has slow development, imagine it moving five times slower but also needing to replace the entire cryptographic machinery Monero depends.

>The clock is ticking and Monero's only saving grace is that the real money launderers, sanction evaders and cyber criminals aren't using it but instead a combination of Bitcoin, Ethereum, Tron and some bridges between. For now it can hide under the guise that its ring signature system still works, but that's only the case when the bad actors under real surveillance aren't using it.

Based undercover Monero-chad fudding for cheapies.

Pro-tip: if you're going to troll, try to be a *little* less obvious about it, most of us understand enough about Monero's protocol to instantly recognize a work.

>>56453368
>XMRsisters we're missing the entire bullrun again

Based.

>>56453695
Why are you like this? Are you being paid to be this stupid? Is this a bot?

made a new video
https://youtu.be/gdSFkYba4eM?si=Xyi63k4Z6UWRrYoN

>>56454173
>Why are you like this? Are you being paid to be this stupid? Is this a bot?

lol do you even understand where you are, numbskull? Go be a moonfag somewhere else.

>>56454914
>https://youtu.be/gdSFkYba4eM?si=Xyi63k4Z6UWRrYoN [Embed]
My wife (female) is a grade 3 teacher. I am *this* close to sharing this with her for her students.

What's monero's answer to the lightning network? Will we ever have anything like that?

>>56457700
>What's monero's answer to the lightning network? Will we ever have anything like that?

Payment channels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XVMUVvwxUE

>>56434325
Kek you retards missed another run on an unpumpable coin

>>56457747
>Lightning network and layer 2s are bad, but it's okay when we do it.

Has anyone explored an atomic swap with dogecoin? If nothing else it can act as sort of an instant liquidity provider that isn't tether or bitshit

>>56457794
>Kek you retards missed another run on an unpumpable coin

How well are the dog coins doing?

>>56457871
No one is saying to hold dog coins. Hold Bitcoin you dipshit.

>>56457825
>>Lightning network and layer 2s are bad, but it's okay when we do it.

LN is a nightmare due to the need for routing.

Monero payment channels are bidirectional only, so no routing issues.

>>56457898
REACT IMAGE REACT IMAGE IF I POST THE MOST REACT IMAGES I WIN

>>56457887
>Hold Bitcoin you dipshit.

sorry, not a fan of getting dumped on by whales after they're done wash trading.

>>56457923
ONLY HECKIN TWO MORE YEARS MONERBROOOS AND IT ALL COMES CRASHING DOWN, JUST LIKE R/BUTTCOIN SAID

>>56457929

We're just having too much fun staying poor!

Run along now, the NGU Gospel won't preach itself!

>>56440861

The ratio is golden, I should buy even more XMR with this "bitcoin" meme thing. XMR and silver are transcendental level of comfy.

>>56449738